[FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
Jesus, Huffpo will print any old crap. The Princeton consciousness research was abandoned because they couldn't show a result over the random background noise of world events after many years of trying. It only survives now through private donations. It's the old coin toss delusion, you get a positive result, say five heads in a row, and think you have found a non-random pattern obviously caused by the fact there was someone meditating in a nearby city. Do it enough times however and you find that it was just a blip that happens all the time anyway, do it enough and it ends up 50/50. I wrote to them asking whether they had registered any unusual activity during the Dubrovnik peace project and a few other big courses I took part in around the time of 9/11 and the war in Iraq. They said no, but they were fascinated that there were other groups interested in this stuff. You can be as fascinated as you like but their own research disproved the Marshy effect and here they are joining hands! So I dispute the idea there is a lot of research behind it, the only other one the TMO have is the Washington study which kind of relies on them knowing what the crime rate was going to be and then saying they reduced it. A quick glance at crime figures for that city (and any others) reveals that crime rates fluctuate by that much anyway over the year. Keep tossing the coin and you see that the ME has done jack shit, how many courses have I been on that were supposedly being monitored but the results never got released? Plenty. Nuff said, this excitement over a political upheaval is more arrows drawn round targets. I'd be more impressed if the crime rate dropped to an unambiguous zero, or revolutions were carried out without petrol bombs and people getting shot in the head. Is it peace or isn't it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-devaney/ukraine-venezuela-global-_b_4833791.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-devaney/ukraine-venezuela-global-_b_4833791.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
Again to the Movement's credit they are not officially taking credit for the Ukraine situation which they can't really do officially because of the parameters they have established for seeing ME results which DO NOT include violence and deaths - the REDUCTION of such things are what the Movement looks for although very stupid TB'ers say OH, I bet there would have been MORE deaths if we had not been a-flyin' all these years. My understanding is that the hard core TB'ers make up all kinds of crap about the Marshy Effect. The best one I have heard of yet I was told about just the other day. Apparently last summer or two there was drought in Iowa and the TB'ers were claiming SuperRadiance was responsible because it was burning up the GMO crops. Then when the rains came as they usually do at the end of the summer the Movement claimed credit for it by having done a rain yagya. Looks like they could have done a rain yagya in the middle of the summer to bring rain then. There is no telling what manifestation group psychosis will bring forth. On Tue, 2/25/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 11:42 AM Jesus, Huffpo will print any old crap. The Princeton consciousness research was abandoned because they couldn't show a result over the random background noise of world events after many years of trying. It only survives now through private donations. It's the old coin toss delusion, you get a positive result, say five heads in a row, and think you have found a non-random pattern obviously caused by the fact there was someone meditating in a nearby city. Do it enough times however and you find that it was just a blip that happens all the time anyway, do it enough and it ends up 50/50. I wrote to them asking whether they had registered any unusual activity during the Dubrovnik peace project and a few other big courses I took part in around the time of 9/11 and the war in Iraq. They said no, but they were fascinated that there were other groups interested in this stuff. You can be as fascinated as you like but their own research disproved the Marshy effect and here they are joining hands! So I dispute the idea there is a lot of research behind it, the only other one the TMO have is the Washington study which kind of relies on them knowing what the crime rate was going to be and then saying they reduced it. A quick glance at crime figures for that city (and any others) reveals that crime rates fluctuate by that much anyway over the year. Keep tossing the coin and you see that the ME has done jack shit, how many courses have I been on that were supposedly being monitored but the results never got released? Plenty. Nuff said, this excitement over a political upheaval is more arrows drawn round targets. I'd be more impressed if the crime rate dropped to an unambiguous zero, or revolutions were carried out without petrol bombs and people getting shot in the head. Is it peace or isn't it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-devaney/ukraine-venezuela-global-_b_4833791.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
On 2/25/2014 6:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: very stupid TB'ers say OH, I bet there would have been MORE deaths if we had not been a-flyin' all these years. It's really a no-brainer; most people believe that peaceful individuals will radiate peace throughout their surroundings. This is proved every day by large populations all over the world. This belief is based on the good-vibration principle: peace in the individual radiates peace to everyone else. This is obviously true for almost anyone with a brain. A guy sitting peacefully with his eyes closed meditating, thinking, or having no thoughts, is a more peaceful individual than a suicide bomber on a dirt bike speeding toward a public market. So, the problem is not with the ME - the problem is with the lack of a consciousness-based education.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
most people? What we are talking about is a group of people in a closed room affecting other minds at a distance by some sort of spooky radiance effect. Bit different than someone being say, angry and annoying people at work but suddenly finding yoga and being more happy and thus improving the atmosphere. No spookiness required for that as most people would indeed understand but the ME? No chance, it's a category error old chap and you know it. Two completely different orders of things. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/25/2014 6:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: very stupid TB'ers say OH, I bet there would have been MORE deaths if we had not been a-flyin' all these years. It's really a no-brainer; most people believe that peaceful individuals will radiate peace throughout their surroundings. This is proved every day by large populations all over the world. This belief is based on the good-vibration principle: peace in the individual radiates peace to everyone else. This is obviously true for almost anyone with a brain. A guy sitting peacefully with his eyes closed meditating, thinking, or having no thoughts, is a more peaceful individual than a suicide bomber on a dirt bike speeding toward a public market. So, the problem is not with the ME - the problem is with the lack of a consciousness-based education.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
And by spooky I mean that it's outside what is understood to be possible in physics, not to mention biology, and psychology. To accept it you have to be prepared to throw out most of what we know about everything for the sake of, what? A few hopeful events cherry picked from the chaos of the last 13 years, and at a time when the world was supposed to be being healed by yagyas. I have yet to see any evidence that it works nor hear an explanation of how it might work. Positivity radiating through the collective consciousness isn't an explanation of anything, it raises far more questions than it answers which is the very hallmark of a poor theory. Give us an unequivocal demonstration instead of half-baked and cherry-picked proofs laden with qualifiers like The extra violence must be due to unstressing that render it untestable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: most people? What we are talking about is a group of people in a closed room affecting other minds at a distance by some sort of spooky radiance effect. Bit different than someone being say, angry and annoying people at work but suddenly finding yoga and being more happy and thus improving the atmosphere. No spookiness required for that as most people would indeed understand but the ME? No chance, it's a category error old chap and you know it. Two completely different orders of things. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/25/2014 6:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: very stupid TB'ers say OH, I bet there would have been MORE deaths if we had not been a-flyin' all these years. It's really a no-brainer; most people believe that peaceful individuals will radiate peace throughout their surroundings. This is proved every day by large populations all over the world. This belief is based on the good-vibration principle: peace in the individual radiates peace to everyone else. This is obviously true for almost anyone with a brain. A guy sitting peacefully with his eyes closed meditating, thinking, or having no thoughts, is a more peaceful individual than a suicide bomber on a dirt bike speeding toward a public market. So, the problem is not with the ME - the problem is with the lack of a consciousness-based education.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ukraine, Venezuela and Across the Globe: Mystical Activism?
On 2/25/2014 6:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: There is no telling what manifestation group psychosis will bring forth. Just look at the settled science of global warming or GMO crops to see some manifestations of group psychosis coming forth. Next you'll be saying it's getting so cold up there because the earth is getting so warm. Go figure.
