[FairfieldLife] Re: "I was NOT functioning from the Home of all the laws of nature"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I think we can affect the universe by touching down on the > > deepest > > > >layer of consciousness and thinking thoughts from there. That's > > one > > > >thing TM had right. We may not be established in pure > > consciousness, > > > >but that isn't necessary to move nature. > > > > > > I think in order for it to be "stronger than the nuclear force" as > > > Hagelin puts it, you have to be operating FROM the home of all the > > > laws of nature, pure consciousness, not somewhere in the vicinity. > > > > > > >You just have to get your fingers on the keyboard of the cosmic > > > >computer for a few moments and tap in whatever you like. > > > > > > > > > That happens automatically with any thought! > > > > > > > > > > But Patanjali's principle is sound: you can create reality by > > > >thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness. That is, after > > > >all, the generation point of the universe. > > > > > > Which isn't happening! A few bubbles of transcending does not > > > constitute "thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness" >IMO. > > > > > Which is something that the practice of the TMSP greatly > > accelerates. Some don't see a lot of value in the formulaic results > > of the packaged sutras, though more importantly, what is happening > > through this practice is the area we are able to act from in the > > context of pure consciousness, the heart of consciousness, is > > greatly expanded, after some time.:-) > > Yeah, some time AFTER they awaken kundalini! Kundalini is the 'bridge' > between mortal consciousness and pure consciousness. > Agreed, though my approach was to use the TM tools, and I found that as I did, kundalini awoke or manifested itself as a symptom of my growing success with meditation, vs. some direct approach to awakening kundalini on its own.:-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "I was NOT functioning from the Home of all the laws of nature"
Billy wrote: I think in order for it to be "stronger than the nuclear force" as Hagelin puts it, you have to be operating FROM the home of all the laws of nature, pure consciousness, not somewhere in the vicinity. Bronte writes: I agree. You can't smash the atom if you smash right next to the atom. Bronte wrote: >You just have to get your fingers on the keyboard of the cosmic >computer for a few moments and tap in whatever you like. Billy wrote: That happens automatically with any thought! Bronte writes: I beg to differ. There's a big difference between thoughts that are experienced at surfacey levels of consciousness and those that are intentionally thought from the deepest level of consciousness. What were those 3 things Patanjali identified? I am always trying to remember. Dyan, gyan and something or other ... where you are pure consciousness, thinking consciously from there, and moving things from there. Bronte wrote: > But Patanjali's principle is sound: you can create reality by >thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness. That is, after >all, the generation point of the universe. Billy wrote: Which isn't happening!!! !! A few bubbles of transcending does not constitute "thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness" IMO. Bronte writes: I'm not asserting that TM is changing the world. I don't think it is. I'm just saying Patanjai's principle is sound, whether or not it is correctly practiced. Goddard Neville has the best modern instructions I've found for accomplishing what Patanjali describes. Check out his book "The Law and the Promise." The stuff really works. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
[FairfieldLife] Re: "I was NOT functioning from the Home of all the laws of nature"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter > > wrote: > > > > > I think we can affect the universe by touching down on the > deepest > > >layer of consciousness and thinking thoughts from there. That's > one > > >thing TM had right. We may not be established in pure > consciousness, > > >but that isn't necessary to move nature. > > > > I think in order for it to be "stronger than the nuclear force" as > > Hagelin puts it, you have to be operating FROM the home of all the > > laws of nature, pure consciousness, not somewhere in the vicinity. > > > > >You just have to get your fingers on the keyboard of the cosmic > > >computer for a few moments and tap in whatever you like. > > > > > > That happens automatically with any thought! > > > > > > > But Patanjali's principle is sound: you can create reality by > > >thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness. That is, after > > >all, the generation point of the universe. > > > > Which isn't happening! A few bubbles of transcending does not > > constitute "thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness" >IMO. > > > Which is something that the practice of the TMSP greatly > accelerates. Some don't see a lot of value in the formulaic results > of the packaged sutras, though more importantly, what is happening > through this practice is the area we are able to act from in the > context of pure consciousness, the heart of consciousness, is > greatly expanded, after some time.:-) Yeah, some time AFTER they awaken kundalini! Kundalini is the 'bridge' between mortal consciousness and pure consciousness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: "I was NOT functioning from the Home of all the laws of nature"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter > wrote: > > > I think we can affect the universe by touching down on the deepest > >layer of consciousness and thinking thoughts from there. That's one > >thing TM had right. We may not be established in pure consciousness, > >but that isn't necessary to move nature. > > I think in order for it to be "stronger than the nuclear force" as > Hagelin puts it, you have to be operating FROM the home of all the > laws of nature, pure consciousness, not somewhere in the vicinity. > > >You just have to get your fingers on the keyboard of the cosmic > >computer for a few moments and tap in whatever you like. > > > That happens automatically with any thought! > > > > But Patanjali's principle is sound: you can create reality by > >thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness. That is, after > >all, the generation point of the universe. > > Which isn't happening! A few bubbles of transcending does not > constitute "thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness" IMO. > Which is something that the practice of the TMSP greatly accelerates. Some don't see a lot of value in the formulaic results of the packaged sutras, though more importantly, what is happening through this practice is the area we are able to act from in the context of pure consciousness, the heart of consciousness, is greatly expanded, after some time.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: "I was NOT functioning from the Home of all the laws of nature"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we can affect the universe by touching down on the deepest >layer of consciousness and thinking thoughts from there. That's one >thing TM had right. We may not be established in pure consciousness, >but that isn't necessary to move nature. I think in order for it to be "stronger than the nuclear force" as Hagelin puts it, you have to be operating FROM the home of all the laws of nature, pure consciousness, not somewhere in the vicinity. >You just have to get your fingers on the keyboard of the cosmic >computer for a few moments and tap in whatever you like. That happens automatically with any thought! > But Patanjali's principle is sound: you can create reality by >thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness. That is, after >all, the generation point of the universe. Which isn't happening! A few bubbles of transcending does not constitute "thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness" IMO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: "I was NOT functioning from the Home of all the laws of nature"
"POP! - something happened inside my ear. Turns out the hole spontaneouly closed, I'm assuming in that moment. About 100 yards from the dorm in my "frat room." Do the terms "simultaneity" and "causality" have separate meanings for you? They are actually completely separate concepts once you get to know them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the domes have some effect, much as I have gripes against the movement. I used to teach school at MIU Elementary, often missing the domes because I was in rebellion at the time, or just plain busy correcting papers. Every day when superradiance time came, I felt an intense calm, an intense inward pull, that was undeniable, despite how much I detested the movement at that time. The fact used to piss me off, actually. I wanted TM to be either all bad or all good. > > One event engraved this experience in my memory. I had had a bad ear infection some months before, requiring a tube insertion. When the doctor removed the tube, the hole in the eardrum was expected to close. But it never did. Months went by, and the doc said I needed surgery to close the hole, as it wasn't going to close spontaneously. I said, "What is the longest time I can wait til I have to get the surgery?" He said, "Another month tops, but why wait? It isn't going to close if it didn't do it within the first few weeks." > > About two weeks after that conversation, while I was playing hooky from superradiance as I liked to do, sitting in my dorm room reading, suddenly - POP! - something happened inside my ear. Turns out the hole spontaneouly closed, I'm assuming in that moment. About 100 yards from the dorm in my "frat room." > > I think we can affect the universe by touching down on the deepest layer of consciousness and thinking thoughts from there. That's one thing TM had right. We may not be established in pure consciousness, but that isn't necessary to move nature. You just have to get your fingers on the keyboard of the cosmic computer for a few moments and tap in whatever you like. Formulaic expressions, as we got in the siddhi sutras, aren't necessary. Not even that useful, in my opinion. Kinda like canned vegies as opposed to the real ones, which is probably why they don't produce many results. But Patanjali's principle is sound: you can create reality by thinking thoughts from the heart of consciousness. That is, after all, the generation point of the universe. > > - Bronte > > > "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my short stay in the dome in the 80's I'm sure I was counted as > being one Siddha in the dome, and I can say that I am NOT enlightened > and therefore was NOT functioning from the Home of ALL the Laws of > Nature, far from it! So you do the math, how could the ME effect > possibly be accurate? > > Now if you mean I had some *faint* awareness of Being (or the home of > all the laws of nature)then yes, but has Hagelin (or MMY) ever defined > what it means to be functioning from the home of all the laws of > nature? and just what IS the *Home of all the Laws of Nature*? > > > > > > > - > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. >
