[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
The Indian TMO as "a mafia-like organization?" I've lost count of the number of times this truth has been repeated: the TMO is separate from one's own realization - the TMO is a washing machine / mirror of the times we live in. This statement is just as true when a student kills another student in Fairfield, as it is with the TMO leadership, and the Indian TMO. Perhaps, in terms of spiritual evolution, it would serve these two people better to distance themselves from their own ideas and preconceptions of how things ought to be and (1) realize that Kali is still holding on to the world in this Yuga; whilst (2) view the TMO as a focused mirror of the contemporary world as one preferably might view the world in general: non-judgementally, whilst taking things easy and as they come (and being regular in their programming). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of > Kaplans) living in or near the ³Spiritual Capital² in N. Carolina donated $2 > or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to it, so > they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they came back > convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that > meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced > themselves from the movement. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Peter: Perhaps, in terms of spiritual evolution, it would serve these two people better to distance themselves from their own ideas and preconceptions of how things ought to be and (1) realize that Kali is still holding on to the world in this Yuga; whilst (2) view the TMO as a focused mirror of the contemporary world as one preferably might view the world in general: non-judgementally, whilst taking things easy and as they come (and being regular in their programming). Me: I understand that you are trying to take the long view here, and I'm sure that this version of re-framing events has value for you. But I think you are also missing an important point about having personal values and integrity. There is no absolute value in not judging the world. For me it is quite the opposite. By applying my judgments on the world I have discovered my own ethics and values that are important to me. The Indian myth of the yugas may or may not be accurate to historical fact, but it doesn't give anyone the right to screw people over or be unethical. I don't think people should "take it easy" when confronted with unethical or cruel actions. Distancing oneself from your own "ideas and preconceptions of how things aught to be" sounds like a detached existence without any heart or self-knowledge. Our minds shouldn't be so open that our brains fall out. Personal values and insights into life are hard earned and deserve respect. Just because we are wrong sometimes and our knowledge is always growing doesn't mean we can't have any knowledge that we can be confident about, until evidence shows us a better way to think. Years of living gives us the advantage that we can know some stuff. Not absolute knowledge in my case, but some convictions that guide my life. If a person tries to screw me over, I judge that as wrong without any insecurity or self doubt. No one can convince me that they have a "good" reason for hurting me. The Kaplans earned the right to their judgments about TMO. It may not match your own, but they were sincere students of MMY and I'll bet they came to their conclusions about the organization at a cost of personal pain and struggle. If you are preaching being non-judgmental, perhaps you could apply it to your judgments of their own personal realization on their path through life and their evolving relationship with TMO and MMY. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Indian TMO as "a mafia-like organization?" > > I've lost count of the number of times this truth has been repeated: > the TMO is separate from one's own realization - the TMO is a washing > machine / mirror of the times we live in. This statement is just as > true when a student kills another student in Fairfield, as it is with > the TMO leadership, and the Indian TMO. > > Perhaps, in terms of spiritual evolution, it would serve these two > people better to distance themselves from their own ideas and > preconceptions of how things ought to be and (1) realize that Kali is > still holding on to the world in this Yuga; whilst (2) view the TMO as > a focused mirror of the contemporary world as one preferably might > view the world in general: non-judgementally, whilst taking things > easy and as they come (and being regular in their programming). > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of > > Kaplans) living in or near the ³Spiritual Capital² in N. Carolina > donated $2 > > or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to > it, so > > they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they > came back > > convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that > > meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced > > themselves from the movement. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Peter: Perhaps, in terms of spiritual evolution, it would serve these > two people better to distance themselves from their own ideas and > preconceptions of how things ought to be and (1) realize that Kali is > still holding on to the world in this Yuga; whilst (2) view the TMO as > a focused mirror of the contemporary world as one preferably might > view the world in general: non-judgementally, whilst taking things > easy and as they come (and being regular in their programming). > > > Me: I understand that you are trying to take the long view here, and > I'm sure that this version of re-framing events has value for you. > But I think you are also missing an important point about having > personal values and integrity. There is no absolute value in not > judging the world. For me it is quite the opposite. By applying my > judgments on the world I have discovered my own ethics and values that > are important to me. It's about the Big Picture - not the long view. The Big Picture is no less without integrity etc as any other scale of comprehension. Perhaps you're having problems with distinguishing between the faculties of discrimination and being judgmental (one is related to the mind and the other the heart)? > > The Indian myth of the yugas may or may not be accurate to historical > fact, but it doesn't give anyone the right to screw people over or be > unethical. I don't think people should "take it easy" when confronted > with unethical or cruel actions. > > Distancing oneself from your own "ideas and preconceptions of how > things aught to be" sounds like a detached existence without any heart > or self-knowledge. Our minds shouldn't be so open that our brains > fall out. Personal values and insights into life are hard earned and > deserve respect. Well, in the business these people find themselves their personal values and insight concern nothing less than their selfs as the Self, which may - or may not - have a set of insights and values that are unique, or at least hard to come by. Given the forum this discussion is taking place in, is this not your business too? > Just because we are wrong sometimes and our > knowledge is always growing doesn't mean we can't have any knowledge > that we can be confident about, until evidence shows us a better way > to think. > > Years of living gives us the advantage that we can know some stuff. > Not absolute knowledge in my case, but some convictions that guide my > life. If a person tries to screw me over, I judge that as wrong > without any insecurity or self doubt. No one can convince me that > they have a "good" reason for hurting me. > > The Kaplans earned the right to their judgments about TMO. It may not > match your own, but they were sincere students of MMY and I'll bet > they came to their conclusions about the organization at a cost of > personal pain and struggle. If you are preaching being > non-judgmental, perhaps you could apply it to your judgments of their > own personal realization on their path through life and their evolving > relationship with TMO and MMY. > What if I told you that whatever might befall you, your family or anyone you love, you have no cosmic "right" or "license" to be judgmental? Why? Because you are the creator of it all. Chew on that you %&)#&%)(&¤/()=! :(: [snip]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
> It's about the Big Picture - not the long view. Different metaphore, same meaning > > The Big Picture is no less without integrity etc as any other scale of > comprehension. > > Perhaps you're having problems with distinguishing between the > faculties of discrimination and being judgmental (one is related to > the mind and the other the heart)? I don't think so let's check: Judgmental: 1. involving the use or exercise of judgment. 2. tending to make moral judgments: to avoid a judgmental approach in dealing with divorced couples. Discrimination: 1. an act or instance of discriminating. 2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination. 3. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment: She chose the colors with great discrimination. 4. Archaic. something that serves to differentiate. I think I have it straight. Being judgemental is not always pejoritive. Everyone doesn't use discrimination in the way MMY does. > > > > > The Indian myth of the yugas may or may not be accurate to historical > > fact, but it doesn't give anyone the right to screw people over or be > > unethical. I don't think people should "take it easy" when confronted > > with unethical or cruel actions. > > > > Distancing oneself from your own "ideas and preconceptions of how > > things aught to be" sounds like a detached existence without any heart > > or self-knowledge. Our minds shouldn't be so open that our brains > > fall out. Personal values and insights into life are hard earned and > > deserve respect. > > Well, in the business these people find themselves their personal > values and insight concern nothing less than their selfs as the Self, > which may - or may not - have a set of insights and values that are > unique, or at least hard to come by. > > Given the forum this discussion is taking place in, is this not your > business too? I don't relate to the term "Self" the way you do I believe. I am not a seeker or knower of a higher Self. > > > Just because we are wrong sometimes and our > > knowledge is always growing doesn't mean we can't have any knowledge > > that we can be confident about, until evidence shows us a better way > > to think. > > > > Years of living gives us the advantage that we can know some stuff. > > Not absolute knowledge in my case, but some convictions that guide my > > life. If a person tries to screw me over, I judge that as wrong > > without any insecurity or self doubt. No one can convince me that > > they have a "good" reason for hurting me. > > > > The Kaplans earned the right to their judgments about TMO. It may not > > match your own, but they were sincere students of MMY and I'll bet > > they came to their conclusions about the organization at a cost of > > personal pain and struggle. If you are preaching being > > non-judgmental, perhaps you could apply it to your judgments of their > > own personal realization on their path through life and their evolving > > relationship with TMO and MMY. > > > > What if I told you that whatever might befall you, your family or > anyone you love, you have no cosmic "right" or "license" to be judgmental? > > Why? > > Because you are the creator of it all. Then I would say we do not share this aspect of our world views. I am just a hairless ape with finger picks and a harp on a rack. I do not create everything I experience, I am often reacting to the actions of others that I did not create. I don't accept that you have a higher insight into reality, cosmic or otherwise, than I do. > > Chew on that you %&)#&%)(&¤/()=! It wouldn't surprise me if I was actually many of the words that these symbols represent! Thanks for responding. I enjoyed it. > > :(: > > > [snip] >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [mercy snip one] > > Well, in the business these people find themselves their personal > > values and insight concern nothing less than their selfs as the Self, > > which may - or may not - have a set of insights and values that are > > unique, or at least hard to come by. > > > > Given the forum this discussion is taking place in, is this not your > > business too? > > I don't relate to the term "Self" the way you do I believe. I am not > a seeker or knower of a higher Self. So what are you doing here..? What a waste of time. [mercy snip two]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > [mercy snip one] Your posts just earned the "Richard Simmon's sound effect treatment". > > > > Well, in the business these people find themselves their personal > > > values and insight concern nothing less than their selfs as the Self, > > > which may - or may not - have a set of insights and values that are > > > unique, or at least hard to come by. > > > > > > Given the forum this discussion is taking place in, is this not your > > > business too? > > > > I don't relate to the term "Self" the way you do I believe. I am not > > a seeker or knower of a higher Self. > > So what are you doing here..? > > What a waste of time. > > [mercy snip two] That one earned you the high pitched squealy-pitched version. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Any source and the people? Any more detail? More of why the upper- middleclass moved away in recent years from the TMO and FF? They all know each other and their stories. As much as the DesMoines Register article was neat, tidy and essentially persuasive in its promotion of the ME, what was also missing was this back story. 'The rest of the story' about spiritual integrity or the lack there of in the story of the TMorg. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of > Kaplans) living in or near the ³Spiritual Capital² in N. Carolina donated $2 > or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to it, so > they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they came back > convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that > meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced > themselves from the movement. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
I wonder if the ME (if it actually is substantial) would then clean up the "back story" /dark side of TMO finances and disclosures. NO IA course fees, free sidhis courses, R&B scholarships/stipends, more open enrollment policy, etc, appear to be pointing in that direction. (which, by itself, does not demonstrate that ME is behind it.) And/or, if people get what they deserve, perhaps the deservingness of current dome goers is greater than those you allude to who have left town -- in the recent years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any source and the people? Any more detail? More of why the upper- > middleclass moved away in recent years from the TMO and FF? They all > know each other and their stories. As much as the DesMoines Register > article was neat, tidy and essentially persuasive in its promotion of > the ME, what was also missing was this back story. 'The rest of the > story' about spiritual integrity or the lack there of in the story of > the TMorg. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > >> > >> Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of > >> Kaplans) living in or near the ³Spiritual Capital² in N. Carolina > >> > > donated $2 > > > >> or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to > >> > > it, so > > > >> they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they > >> > > came back > > > >> convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that > >> meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced > >> themselves from the movement. > > > At one time I would've thought this was extreme and just an > exaggeration or sour grapes, but after spending two years talking to > one of M's old secretaries and someone who helped set up a lot of the > older programs, the stuff he told is just scary, creepy and weird. > Now I wouldn't trust this guy as far as I could throw him. > Heh. Seems par for the course for old school spiritual traditions in India. Recall that one yogi killed Tat Walle Baba allegedly because he was jealous of all the tourists. There's another story of Swami Swaroopanada's disciples attempting to take Gurudev's residence and ashram away from Swami Shantatanda by force and being met with Swami Shatatanda's disciples who beat them off with sticks. Dare I mention the almost-riot between the Moslem and Hindu followers of Rabindranath Tagor, and the genuine riots between HIndus and Moslems over the the birthplace of Rama? Oh, and the all the conflicts between various Hindu religious groups in general? Ever heard of the Thugee? Their violence was religiously-sanctioned and promoted. Hindus talk a great line for non-violence, but they're quite "exciteable," I've noticed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wonder if the ME (if it actually is substantial) would then clean up > the "back story" /dark side of TMO finances and disclosures. NO IA > course fees, free sidhis courses, R&B scholarships/stipends, more open > enrollment policy, etc, appear to be pointing in that direction. > (which, by itself, does not demonstrate that ME is behind it.) > It sounds like it happened by force, and the necessity of circumstances within the TMO. Dr. Settle has enough financial clout to make it happen despite the normal tendencies of the TMO. Is that really the Maharishi Effect? Sounds like an expensive 'put up or shut up' to me. JohnY > And/or, if people get what they deserve, perhaps the deservingness of > current dome goers is greater than those you allude to who have left > town -- in the recent years. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: > > > > Any source and the people? Any more detail? More of why the upper- > > middleclass moved away in recent years from the TMO and FF? They all > > know each other and their stories. As much as the DesMoines Register > > article was neat, tidy and essentially persuasive in its promotion of > > the ME, what was also missing was this back story. 'The rest of the > > story' about spiritual integrity or the lack there of in the story of > > the TMorg. > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Would you care to specify what "Scary, Creepy and Weird" stuff which MMY's old Secretary told you.?? Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:52:16 -0400Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs At one time I would've thought this was extreme and just an exaggeration or sour grapes, but after spending two years talking to one of M's old secretaries and someone who helped set up a lot of the older programs, the stuff he told is just scary, creepy and weird. Now I wouldn't trust this guy as far as I could throw him. Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Sir Rick, you once mentioned that the TM-org steals from itself. Sombody was robbed at gun-point when he was taking salaries to the TM-tutors. Would you please elaborate when did this happen.?? Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:29:35 -0500Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of Kaplans) living in or near the Spiritual Capital in N. Carolina donated $2 or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to it, so they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they came back convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced themselves from the movement. Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
> Rick Archer wrote: > Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple >(not either pair of Kaplans) living in or near > the Spiritual Capital in N. Carolina donated $2 > or 3 Million and later began to wonder what > might have happened to it, so > they went to India to investigate. > After 6 months over there, they came back > convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization > and that meddling with it could cost you your life. > They have since distanced > themselves from the movement. Namaste Sri Rick Ji.., Well all there needs to be done to help corroborate the veracity of your "friend's story" is to investigate the facts surrounding the history of the- "Indian TMO". Just start with the very beginning of the "Indian TMO".., Everything that happened some fifty three years ago with regards death of Sri Vibhuushiit Jyosimutt Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanand Saraswati the "indian tmo" had a hand in.. Starting with and including Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma and his uncle- Raj Varma. It was Raj Varma whom took it upon himself to re-write the history surrounding the death of Sri Swami BrahmanandJi in his book- 'Strange Facts about a Great Saint' re-printed by Varma & Sons, 1980. The spurious claims made then that- "an authentic will of Sri BrahmanandJi that was deposited with the Registars Office in Allhallabad on December 18, 1952" was never true! As court documents and undisputed evidence clearly shows.. reference page 792 .."Before his death, he executed a will which was published on June 8, 1953. By the will, he nominated a panel of 4 persons in-order of choice indicated in the will to succeed him as head of the Math..." http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html Then later the "indian tmo" claimed this- .."As an aside, a few relatively unknown, early Indian publications of the Transcendental Meditation movement claim the Sankaracharya title for Mahesh Yogi himself, but this is not to be taken seriously..." http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html After this attempt of claiming the title of "shankaracharya" by the "indian tmo" failed, it was followed by a charade that went on for years-- of the "indian tmo" and brahmachari Mahesh parading Swami Shantinand around as "shankaracharya of the north" from June 1953 until Shantinand finally quit calling himself "shankaracharya" in 1980. >From the Kropinski interview of Oct. 1986 with the only lawfully recognized Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt. .."He said, word came to me that he (Shantinand) had requested to be allowed on the stage. I allowed him to be present only because he has given up this nonsense of claiming title to Shankaracharya..." http://minet.org/Documents/shank-1 The "indian tmo" was even present at the celebration held by Sri SwaroopanandJi that Bob Kropinsky attended.. .."Shankaracharya then warned me that Mahesh now knows you are here in Vrindaban with me. He has sent Nadikishor and his spies here with others to watch you, you must be very careful. He placed a guard outside of my bedroom door at night and had someone travel with me at all times. Much to my amazement, I discovered that, in fact, I was being followed..." http://minet.org/Documents/shank-1 Then during the 1990s there was failed a political party-Ajay Bharat in the Indian province of Madhya Pradesh (city of Jalapur birthplace of brahmachari Mahesh) that was backed with "tmo" funds, and named after one of brahmachari Mahesh's newphew- Ajay Shristava. This now defunct political party was known to engaged in voter fraud in attempts to influnce elections.. please see my post at Alt.Meditation.Transcendental as i wrote about this very subject some 4 years ago... The Trail of Money and Deception From: ColdBluICE - view profile Date: Mon, Jul 29 2002 9:30 pm http://tinyurl.com/twfr9 More news articles on the ABP (Ajay Bharat Party) of Madhya Pradesh.. Yogi casts a shadow Of all people, Mahesh Yogi was a bizarre shadow over the brainstorming camp here. The Yogi, with more money than he can count, apparently has an ardent follower in former state education minister and Congress MLA till a day ago, Mukesh Nayak. Nayak, once an aide of Ajit Jogi, was seen as a potential star in the MP Congress but fell foul with powers that be. It was then that Yogi moved in. Apparently, he told Nayak that his party, Ajeya Bharat, would field many candidates in the coming Assembly polls and with things in a balance between the Congress and the BJP, Yogi feels, Ajeya Bharat could throw a lot of spanners in the wheel. So, Nayak was given a fleet of cars and plenty of cash as incentive to quit the Congress and spearhead Yogi's party. No amount of pleas from the Congress high command worked and Nayak timed his resignation in time for the Pachmarhi camp. http://www.expressindia.com/ie/daily/19980907/25050904.html The "indian tmo" appears to be composed of members of at least two families- 'Sh
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were going to make a donation > to either SSRS or MMY which would you choose? MMY of course. The research on SSRS's technique suggests that it is completely different than TM. COMPLETELY different, to the point that I'm not sure it's even compatible. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > > wrote: > > > > > > If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were > > going to make a donation to either SSRS > > or MMY which would you choose? > > > > > > MMY of course. The research on SSRS's technique > > suggests that it is completely different than > > TM. COMPLETELY different, to the point that I'm not > > sure it's even compatible. > > Of course it is. Don't be silly. I do Sudarshan Kriya > before my TM program every day. Suydarshan Kriya is > great. I love it. I've been doing it for 15 years now. > If I had millions of dollars to give away I'd give a > portion to the Sisters of Charity in Miami (Mother > Teresa's organization), a portion to SSRS because he > and his Art of Living organization are straight > shooters, and then I'd sponser some guys on Purusha. I > would never, ever give money directly to the TMO > because they are completely untrustworthy and have > achieved that status through great effort over many > decades on their part. > I just want to make the open offer that if any of you DO feel compelled to donate large sums to the TMO, I will happily act as the middleman for a tiny** percentage of the donation. **TBD. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > > wrote: > > > > > > If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were > > going to make a donation to either SSRS > > or MMY which would you choose? > > > > > > MMY of course. The research on SSRS's technique > > suggests that it is completely different than > > TM. COMPLETELY different, to the point that I'm not > > sure it's even compatible. > > Of course it is. Don't be silly. I do Sudarshan Kriya > before my TM program every day. >From March 12, 1974, Belgium. Questioner: What do you think of other meditation techniques and is it possible to practice another meditation technique at the same time as transcendental meditation `specially if the other meditation technique is in connection with a religion? Maharishi: What we teach is something to be done 15, 20 minutes morning and evening. Regarding other things? We have no opinion. We leave a man to do what he wants to do. We just teach Transcendental Meditation, give the knowledge of the pure creative intelligence. What he should do, what he should not do, he will decide in his own level of consciousness. Nothing, neither we advice on religion, nor diets, nor anything, do's and don'ts we don't talk about. Simply, innocently teach the practice, give the knowledge pertaining to the practice, satisfy all the doubt and questions regarding understanding and then leave the man to be with his tradition, with his culture, with his way of life, with everything that he wants to do. Just 15 minutes morning and evening. He can practice hundreds of meditations, we don't mind. As long as he does this 15-minutes, 20- minutes morning and evening, he will enjoy, begin to enjoy everything that he will do, either meditation or no meditation or whatever. Whatever he will do in life, he will begin to enjoy more because everything will become more meaningful. Just we concern ourselves with this practical aspect of this science. Simple. Very simple, very natural. One of the strengths of the World Plan is this innocence of our Movement, we never go into any other area except Transcendental Meditation. That's all > Suydarshan Kriya is > great. I love it. I've been doing it for 15 years now. > If I had millions of dollars to give away I'd give a > portion to the Sisters of Charity in Miami (Mother > Teresa's organization), a portion to SSRS because he > and his Art of Living organization are straight > shooters, and then I'd sponser some guys on Purusha. I > would never, ever give money directly to the TMO > because they are completely untrustworthy and have > achieved that status through great effort over many > decades on their part. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ ___ > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business > (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > > wrote: > > > > > > If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were > > going to make a donation to either SSRS > > or MMY which would you choose? > > > > > > MMY of course. The research on SSRS's technique > > suggests that it is completely different than > > TM. COMPLETELY different, to the point that I'm not > > sure it's even compatible. > > Of course it is. Don't be silly. I do Sudarshan Kriya > before my TM program every day. Suydarshan Kriya is > great. I love it. I've been doing it for 15 years now. Doesn't change what I said: the resaerch on SSRS's technique suggests that it is completely different [in its effect] than TM. To the point that I'm not sure that its even compatible. That YOU find it compatible does't say much either way in my opinion. You show no interest in attending a course with 1500+ Yogic Flyers in a group. Am I correct in my understanding that that is because you have never felt much effect from such a group? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 30, 2006, at 4:55 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > > wrote: > >> > >> If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were going to make a > >> donation to either SSRS > > or MMY which would you choose? > > > > > > MMY of course. The research on SSRS's technique suggests that it is > > completely different than > > TM. COMPLETELY different, to the point that I'm not sure it's even > > compatible. > > > OMG! > Are you actually surprised that I feel this way, Vaj, or are you posturing for the lurkers? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Oct 30, 2006, at 4:55 PM, sparaig wrote: > >> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > >>> wrote: > > If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were going to make a > donation to either SSRS > >>> or MMY which would you choose? > >>> > >>> > >>> MMY of course. The research on SSRS's technique suggests that it is > >>> completely different than > >>> TM. COMPLETELY different, to the point that I'm not sure it's even > >>> compatible. > >> > >> > >> OMG! > >> > > > > Are you actually surprised that I feel this way, Vaj, or are you > > posturing for the lurkers? > > > I find it silly TBism to be perfectly honest. But I did get a smile > out of it, that counts, right? > Hence, the OMG! reaction, which is a Vajism for I take it... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either > >pair of > > > Kaplans) living in or near the ³Spiritual Capital² in N. > >Carolina > donated $2 > or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to > it, > >so > > > they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, > >they > > came back > > > convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and > >that > > > meddling with it could cost you your life. > They have since > distanced > > > themselves from the movement. > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > > > Any source and the people? Any more detail? > > More of why the > >upper- > middleclass moved away in recent years from the TMO and FF? They > >all > > know each other and their stories. As much as the DesMoines > >Register > > article was neat, tidy and essentially persuasive in its promotion > >of > > the ME, what was also missing was this back story, 'The rest of > >the > > story' about spiritual integrity or the lack there of in the story > >of > > the TMorg. > > > > > Hartnett Family? Who else living down there on 'Heavenly Mountain' > have the resources for giving 2 or 3 million to the Movement?>> No it was the Billy Graham family. OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I just want to make the open offer that if any of > > you DO feel > > compelled to donate large sums to the TMO, I will > > happily act as the > > middleman for a tiny** percentage of the donation. > > > > **TBD. > > Spoken like a true financial disciple of the TMO! No, he is a poor disciple. He only asked for a tiny percentage. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
'Untrustworthy'. Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz and what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it was in this 1974 quote below. It's what it has become evidently: untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of Maharishi, as a teacher or his teaching or business man? 'Untrustworthy'? Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up. The Maharishi Effect? What to do to right things with folks and bring them back? -Doug in FF > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > wrote: I would never, ever give money directly to the TMO because they are completely untrustworthy and have achieved that status through great effort over many decades on their part. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were > > > going to make a donation to either SSRS > > > or MMY which would you choose? > > > > > > > Of course it is. Don't be silly. I do Sudarshan Kriya > > before my TM program every day. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From March 12, 1974, Belgium. > > Questioner: > > What do you think of other meditation techniques and is it possible > to practice another meditation technique at the same time as > transcendental meditation `specially if the other meditation > technique is in connection with a religion? > > Maharishi: > > What we teach is something to be done 15, 20 minutes morning and > evening. Regarding other things? We have no opinion. We leave a > man to do what he wants to do. We just teach Transcendental > Meditation, give the knowledge of the pure creative intelligence. > What he should do, what he should not do, he will decide in his own > level of consciousness. Nothing, neither we advice on religion, nor > diets, nor anything, do's and don'ts we don't talk about. Simply, > innocently teach the practice, give the knowledge pertaining to the > practice, satisfy all the doubt and questions regarding > understanding and then leave the man to be with his tradition, with > his culture, with his way of life, with everything that he wants to > do. > > Just 15 minutes morning and evening. He can practice hundreds of > meditations, we don't mind. As long as he does this 15-minutes, 20- > minutes morning and evening, he will enjoy, begin to enjoy > everything that he will do, either meditation or no meditation or > whatever. Whatever he will do in life, he will begin to enjoy more > because everything will become more meaningful. Just we concern > ourselves with this practical aspect of this science. Simple. Very > simple, very natural. > > One of the strengths of the World Plan is this innocence of our > Movement, we never go into any other area except Transcendental > Meditation. That's all > > > > > > > > > > > > Suydarshan Kriya is > > great. I love it. I've been doing it for 15 years now. > > If I had millions of dollars to give away I'd give a > > portion to the Sisters of Charity in Miami (Mother > > Teresa's organization), a portion to SSRS because he > > and his Art of Living organization are straight > > shooters, and then I'd sponser some guys on Purusha. I > > would never, ever give money directly to the TMO > > because they are completely untrustworthy and have > > achieved that status through great effort over many > > decades on their part. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > ___ > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small > Business > > (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'Untrustworthy'. Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz and > what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become > untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it was > in this 1974 quote below. It's what it has become evidently: > untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. > > Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of Maharishi, > as a teacher or his teaching or business man? 'Untrustworthy'? > Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up. The > Maharishi Effect? What to do to right things with folks and bring > them back? People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because they were offended, for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place to try to hold onto people. And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace indefinitely, even YOUR assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order to make certain projects happen--doesn't hold. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought wow what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars to be close to him for a month. YES Why? Do you think you'll evolve faster if you're closer to him? If in your heart you believe that you are betraying the very Master you purport to follow because your Master has already told you that the fastest way to enlightenment is the TM Program, which does not include guru worship. > > > - Original Message > From: sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > > > 'Untrustworthy'. Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz and > > what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become > > untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it was > > in this 1974 quote below. It's what it has become evidently: > > untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. > > > > Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of Maharishi, > > as a teacher or his teaching or business man? 'Untrustworthy'? > > Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up. The > > Maharishi Effect? What to do to right things with folks and bring > > them back? > > People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because they were offended, > for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place to try to hold onto people. > And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace indefinitely, even YOUR > assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order to make certain projects > happen--doesn't hold. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You do realize he lives in a specially made house By "specially made," Vaj means the house was built for MMY according to S-V principles. But "specially made" sounds much more weird and sinister, don't it? all alone and > communicates via audio/video only, right? Gosh, just like Howard Hughes! I don't believe he actually lives there "all alone," though, Vaj, and I'm pretty sure he sees and communicates with his personal staff face to face. You're overdoing it *just* a tad bit here. > While I do believe it is extreme and reactionary in places, > you might want to read the Earl Kaplan letter draft in the > files section. Much of it rings true and has been corroborated > by others. Yeah, jeez, Louis still seems to have some admiration for MMY; can't have that, now, can we? > On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Louis McKenzie wrote: > > > Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I > > might learn some things. I would like to see the sides that people > > think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without > > emotion > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I might learn some things. Let me see if I understand this right. You want to be around Maharishi because you respect him as a business man because he charged $1 million per person for the course? And you want to learn from that? What, how to charge exhorbitant amounts of money for courses that 30 years ago went for, literally 1/1,000 of that cost? > I would like to see the sides that people think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without emotion > > > - Original Message > From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:16:46 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > wrote: > > > > When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought wow > what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars > to be close to him for a month. YES > > > > Why? > > Do you think you'll evolve faster if you're closer to him? > > If in your heart you believe that you are betraying the very Master > you purport to follow because your Master has already told you that > the fastest way to enlightenment is the TM Program, which does not > include guru worship. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: sparaig > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian > TMO are a bunch of thugs > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > > > > > 'Untrustworthy'. Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz > and > > > what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become > > > untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it > was > > > in this 1974 quote below. It's what it has become evidently: > > > untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. > > > > > > Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of > Maharishi, > > > as a teacher or his teaching or business man? 'Untrustworthy'? > > > Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up. > The > > > Maharishi Effect? What to do to right things with folks and > bring > > > them back? > > > > People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because > they were offended, > > for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place > to try to hold onto people. > > And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace > indefinitely, even YOUR > > assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order > to make certain projects > > happen--doesn't hold. > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You do realize he lives in a specially made house all alone and > communicates via audio/video only, right? > > While I do believe it is extreme and reactionary in places, you might > want to read the Earl Kaplan letter draft in the files section. Much > of it rings true and has been corroborated by others. ...maybe you should start him on the Sexie Sadie tapes and then move him on to the Earl letter... > > On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Louis McKenzie wrote: > > > Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I > > might learn some things. I would like to see the sides that people > > think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without > > emotion > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace > > indefinitely, even YOUR > > > assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in > order > > to make certain projects > > > happen--doesn't hold. > > > Foreign mercenaries yes, unable to rally and bring in sufficient 'ME' numbers from the meditating community/old TM movement, MMY & the family evidently are spending some of their horded money to hire these pundit boys as foreign mercenaries. It must have been a very painful decision to have to spend their money this way. Recalling the recent sequence of events, start by remembering Maharishi's call to action: MMY's Call to action; July 2006 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974 Except, ejected August 2006 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/107519 Except rejected, August 2006 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/108879 Rejected: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/108731 Yogic flyer ad, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/117667 Des Moines Reg. 8-2006 article, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/119862 Can't find, the 190 Million. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/117466 Invincible America Course 10-2006; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/120103 Can't get the numbers needed Oct 2006: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/113629 -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > wrote: > > > > Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I > might learn some things. > > > > > Let me see if I understand this right. You want to be around > Maharishi because you respect him as a business man because he > charged $1 million per person for the course? > > And you want to learn from that? > > What, how to charge exhorbitant amounts of money for courses that 30 > years ago went for, literally 1/1,000 of that cost? > > > > > > > > I would like to see the sides that people think are so bad, I > would like to see if he can be that way without emotion.... > > > > > > - Original Message ---- > > From: shempmcgurk > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:16:46 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian > TMO are a bunch of thugs > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > > wrote: > > > > > > When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought > wow > > what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars > > to be close to him for a month. YES > > > > > > > > Why? > > > > Do you think you'll evolve faster if you're closer to him? > > > > If in your heart you believe that you are betraying the very > Master > > you purport to follow because your Master has already told you > that > > the fastest way to enlightenment is the TM Program, which does not > > include guru worship. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: sparaig > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the > Indian > > TMO are a bunch of thugs > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > 'Untrustworthy'. Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' > biz > > and > > > > what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become > > > > untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it > > was > > > > in this 1974 quote below. It's what it has become evidently: > > > > untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. > > > > > > > > Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of > > Maharishi, > > > > as a teacher or his teaching or business > man? 'Untrustworthy'? > > > > Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show > up. > > The > > > > Maharishi Effect? What to do to right things with folks and > > bring > > > > them back? > > > > > > People move on because they
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > TM is better stoned anyway. > Hey kirk, you're not supposed to reveal the advanced techniques. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace > > > indefinitely, even YOUR > > > > assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in > > order > > > to make certain projects > > > > happen--doesn't hold. > > > > > Foreign mercenaries > yes, unable to rally and bring in sufficient 'ME' numbers from the > meditating community/old TM movement, MMY & the family evidently are > spending some of their horded money to hire these pundit boys as > foreign mercenaries. It must have been a very painful decision to > have to spend their money this way. This is projection on your part. Certainly, we know, both from the series of photographs posted here many times, and from Indian newspaper articles about the legal complications that other such large TM facilities in India ran into a few years ago, that large sums of money have been spent to build places for the pundits to stay and do their thing. Your suggestion that it all (or some large sum) goes to Maharishi's family is sorta like the claim that you and others make that THIS is MMY's family compound: http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ > > Recalling the recent sequence of events, start by remembering > Maharishi's call to action: To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they just did not understand that it was just time to move on. Hi Louis, Thanks for posting this! It is what FFL is here for- to balance our inner dialogue with outward activity in a forum that at least agrees such inner dialogue is a necessary component of our identity. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
> sparaig wrote: > > dhamiltony2k5 wrote: > > > > > assuming that the money is there to > > > > > keep the pundits inplace > > > > indefinitely, even YOUR > > > > > assumption--that the TMO needs to > > > > > placate old-time TMers in > > > > > order > > > > > to make certain projects > > > > > happen--doesn't hold. > > > > > > > Foreign mercenaries > > yes, unable to rally and bring in sufficient > > 'ME' numbers from the > > meditating community/old TM movement, MMY & > > the family evidently are > > spending some of their horded money to > > hire these pundit boys as > > foreign mercenaries. > > It must have been a very painful decision to > > have to spend their money this way. > This is projection on your part. > Certainly, we know, both from the series of photographs > posted here many times, and from Indian newspaper > articles about the legal complications > that other such large TM facilities in India > ran into a few years ago, that large sums of > money have been spent to build places for the > pundits to stay and do their thing. Your > suggestion that it all (or some large sum) goes > to Maharishi's family is sorta like the claim > that you and others make that THIS is MMY's family compound: > http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ > > Recalling the recent sequence of events, start by remembering > > Maharishi's call to action: Intersting that final photo was of Girish Varma..any relation to -- Mishmashi brahmachari Prasad Varma Mahesh, and his uncle Raj Varma? Lets see..Uh.., yes!! So how many of these photos were doctored using Adobe Photoshop or similar such software? (i can spot at least 5) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is THP? > Many will tell you that it stands for the "Thousand Headed Purusha" course but acronymfinder.com will tell you otherwise: ** THP Timber Harvest Plan ** THP Tennessee Highway Patrol ** THP Tetrahydropyran THP Tomlinson-Harashima Precoding THP Take Home Package (lessons learned and recommendations resulting from military exercise) THP Thrust Horsepower (engine power rating) THP The Harlem Project *** THP Traffic Handling Priority *** THP Texaco Heritage Plaza *** THP Terminal to Host Protocol *** THP Thermohydrogen Processing *** THP Telecommunications Host Processor > > - Original Message > From: llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 1:57:19 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs > > > Oh Louis, were you on THP? > - Original Message - > From: Louis McKenzie > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:30 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs > > > I read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they just did not understand that it was just time to move on. > You expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that does not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that he came and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world we live in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed to be in the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he gives a lot to talk about. > > Have you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk about you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a household name. Then you will know that you are a success. Well Maharishi has been a success over and over again. I knew David and Earl I think I went to David's first wedding, I really liked them both because I could not always tell the difference. They both stayed on courses and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they were contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up at school anytime and be allowed to attend. > > Imagine if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and acted just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would be in an all out nuclear war. This is life without Maharishi. I need to write this one for me. People can say whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring whatever it is he brought to the world. > > I admire people with courage. I have courage because of Maharishi. In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He allowed me to develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision. He created tune up programs for people who get burnt out in the field. I understand that experience. It takes great effort and sacrifice to make major impact. Even one may fail or succeed this doesn't really have anything to do with it. Impact is felt in the effort. Every action has an effect on world consciousness, a thought introduced by Einstein yet demonstrated by Maharishi. If not for Maharishi I do not know if Einstein would be understood. > > As for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi. There are people who think that if he shits he is not a true rishi. I have seen a small glimpse of what happens. I have seen what it is like to hear people Oh __ is so sweet so wonderful when he is on top. Then when an eb comes he is a crook, a liar a thief, a child molester, a rapist. I was once at Agape church in California and a guy who thought of himself as a psychic was telling people all he knew about me. > > He told them that I raped women at MIU. That I busted into their rooms and raped them. I LOUIS THOMAS MCKENZIE have never in my life forced a woman, to have sex if she did not want to. At MIU I had very little sex. Yet this guy was an expert on me, not just me anyone African American who had been somewhat popular in the TM/Art of living circles.. He caused a lot of negativity. But I thought he was the most stupid pretender on the planet. Another time
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ > > > > Recalling the recent sequence of events, start by remembering > > > Maharishi's call to action: > > Intersting that final photo was of Girish Varma..any relation to -- > Mishmashi brahmachari Prasad Varma Mahesh, and his uncle Raj Varma? > > Lets see..Uh.., yes!! > > So how many of these photos were doctored using Adobe Photoshop or > similar such software? > > (i can spot at least 5) > So which ones, besides the panoramas? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was never on THP but..according to the Kap letter to have been on > purusha would have been sigining up for the international robot society Rick, were you and your friends robotic? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well that goes back to my earlier post. I had one friend who went on Purusha > the first chance he got. Horus Msmage before he went on Purusha he was a robot. When he would talk about the gita he would quote the page the paragraph and the verse. Just like a robot. Yet he got the Sidhis through the citizens courses. He did his last block at MIU, I was with him, I dont remember if we arrranged for him to stay in one of the room in my pod or what, but he dressed up in a Tux to walk across campus to the frats to get his flying technique. Oh Boy! I walked near him but not with him. I have seen him maybe once since he went on Purusha so I do not know if he is still robot material but who knows. He big desire was to become enlightened. If that means clearing the mind so Maharishi's Rakshasha can take control, I dont know. Hope not. Fred Travis at MUM has been publishing resarch on enlightenment for several years now. It's not what you think... ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of > Kaplans) living in or near the ³Spiritual Capital² in N. Carolina donated $2 > or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to it, so > they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they came back > convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that > meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced > themselves from the movement. > Well, you should hear what my mother's old friend's sister had to say about YOU!!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of Kaplans) living in or near the ³Spiritual Capital² in N. Carolina donated $2 or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to it, so they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they came back convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced themselves from the movement. At one time I would've thought this was extreme and just an exaggeration or sour grapes, but after spending two years talking to one of M's old secretaries and someone who helped set up a lot of the older programs, the stuff he told is just scary, creepy and weird. Now I wouldn't trust this guy as far as I could throw him. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
They need to come to NOLA in force where the area is ripe for cults. - Original Message - From: "new.morning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs >I wonder if the ME (if it actually is substantial) would then clean up > the "back story" /dark side of TMO finances and disclosures. NO IA > course fees, free sidhis courses, R&B scholarships/stipends, more open > enrollment policy, etc, appear to be pointing in that direction. > (which, by itself, does not demonstrate that ME is behind it.) > > And/or, if people get what they deserve, perhaps the deservingness of > current dome goers is greater than those you allude to who have left > town -- in the recent years. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Any source and the people? Any more detail? More of why the upper- >> middleclass moved away in recent years from the TMO and FF? They all >> know each other and their stories. As much as the DesMoines Register >> article was neat, tidy and essentially persuasive in its promotion of >> the ME, what was also missing was this back story. 'The rest of the >> story' about spiritual integrity or the lack there of in the story of >> the TMorg. >> > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were > going to make a donation to either SSRS > or MMY which would you choose? > > > MMY of course. The research on SSRS's technique > suggests that it is completely different than > TM. COMPLETELY different, to the point that I'm not > sure it's even compatible. Of course it is. Don't be silly. I do Sudarshan Kriya before my TM program every day. Suydarshan Kriya is great. I love it. I've been doing it for 15 years now. If I had millions of dollars to give away I'd give a portion to the Sisters of Charity in Miami (Mother Teresa's organization), a portion to SSRS because he and his Art of Living organization are straight shooters, and then I'd sponser some guys on Purusha. I would never, ever give money directly to the TMO because they are completely untrustworthy and have achieved that status through great effort over many decades on their part. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
On Oct 30, 2006, at 4:55 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were going to make a donation to either SSRS or MMY which would you choose? MMY of course. The research on SSRS's technique suggests that it is completely different than TM. COMPLETELY different, to the point that I'm not sure it's even compatible. OMG! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis > McKenzie > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If you were very rich all of a sudden and you > were > > > going to make a donation to either SSRS > > > or MMY which would you choose? > > > > > > > > > MMY of course. The research on SSRS's technique > > > suggests that it is completely different than > > > TM. COMPLETELY different, to the point that I'm > not > > > sure it's even compatible. > > > > Of course it is. Don't be silly. I do Sudarshan > Kriya > > before my TM program every day. Suydarshan Kriya > is > > great. I love it. I've been doing it for 15 years > now. > > If I had millions of dollars to give away I'd give > a > > portion to the Sisters of Charity in Miami (Mother > > Teresa's organization), a portion to SSRS because > he > > and his Art of Living organization are straight > > shooters, and then I'd sponser some guys on > Purusha. I > > would never, ever give money directly to the TMO > > because they are completely untrustworthy and have > > achieved that status through great effort over > many > > decades on their part. > > > > I just want to make the open offer that if any of > you DO feel > compelled to donate large sums to the TMO, I will > happily act as the > middleman for a tiny** percentage of the donation. > > **TBD. Spoken like a true financial disciple of the TMO! > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:14 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 30, 2006, at 4:55 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie wrote: If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were going to make a donation to either SSRS or MMY which would you choose? MMY of course. The research on SSRS's technique suggests that it is completely different than TM. COMPLETELY different, to the point that I'm not sure it's even compatible. OMG! Are you actually surprised that I feel this way, Vaj, or are you posturing for the lurkers? I find it silly TBism to be perfectly honest. But I did get a smile out of it, that counts, right? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought wow what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars to be close to him for a month. YES - Original Message From: sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> 'Untrustworthy'. Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz and > what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become > untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it was > in this 1974 quote below. It's what it has become evidently: > untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. > > Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of Maharishi, > as a teacher or his teaching or business man? 'Untrustworthy'? > Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up. The > Maharishi Effect? What to do to right things with folks and bring > them back?People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because they were offended, for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place to try to hold onto people. And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace indefinitely, even YOUR assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order to make certain projects happen--doesn't hold.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
I also thought this could be a big rip... - Original Message From: sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> 'Untrustworthy'. Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz and > what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become > untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it was > in this 1974 quote below. It's what it has become evidently: > untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. > > Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of Maharishi, > as a teacher or his teaching or business man? 'Untrustworthy'? > Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up. The > Maharishi Effect? What to do to right things with folks and bring > them back?People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because they were offended, for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place to try to hold onto people. And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace indefinitely, even YOUR assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order to make certain projects happen--doesn't hold.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I might learn some things. I would like to see the sides that people think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without emotion - Original Message From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:16:46 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought wow what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars to be close to him for a month. YESWhy?Do you think you'll evolve faster if you're closer to him?If in your heart you believe that you are betraying the very Master you purport to follow because your Master has already told you that the fastest way to enlightenment is the TM Program, which does not include guru worship.> > > - Original Message > From: sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PM> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote:> >> > 'Untrustworthy'. Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz and > > what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become > > untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it was > > in this 1974 quote below. It's what it has become evidently: > > untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. > > > > Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of Maharishi, > > as a teacher or his teaching or business man? 'Untrustworthy'? > > Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up. The > > Maharishi Effect? What to do to right things with folks and bring > > them back?> > People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because they were offended, > for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place to try to hold onto people. > And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace indefinitely, even YOUR > assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order to make certain projects > happen--doesn't hold.> > > > > To subscribe, send a message to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links>To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
You do realize he lives in a specially made house all alone and communicates via audio/video only, right?While I do believe it is extreme and reactionary in places, you might want to read the Earl Kaplan letter draft in the files section. Much of it rings true and has been corroborated by others.On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Louis McKenzie wrote:Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I might learn some things. I would like to see the sides that people think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without emotion __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
What happened with Earl Kaplan? I know him and David. I would like to read the letter. I would do somethings just to see for myself. Just for the experience. Also I had good experiences with M so I would do that if I had the time just to see. I once drove from LA to Oakland with another favored son. I loved every minute of the trip. but that was in 1995. - Original Message From: authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:08:03 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> You do realize he lives in a specially made houseBy "specially made," Vaj means the house was builtfor MMY according to S-V principles. But "speciallymade" sounds much more weird and sinister, don't it?all alone and > communicates via audio/video only, right?Gosh, just like Howard Hughes!I don't believe he actually lives there "allalone," though, Vaj, and I'm pretty sure he seesand communicates with his personal staff face toface. You're overdoing it *just* a tad bit here.> While I do believe it is extreme and reactionary in places,> you might want to read the Earl Kaplan letter draft in the> files section. Much of it rings true and has been corroborated> by others.Yeah, jeez, Louis still seems to have someadmiration for MMY; can't have that, now,can we?> On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Louis McKenzie wrote:> > > Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I > > might learn some things. I would like to see the sides that people > > think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without > > emotion>To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Because he created a movement that I feel changed the world and maintained himself and that movement for 50 and still going. At the end of that 50 years people are still donating large amounts of money to him no matter what you think. Yes I would want to be around him because of the benefits I have gotten from being in the distance. - Original Message From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 2:22:43 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I might learn some things.Let me see if I understand this right. You want to be around Maharishi because you respect him as a business man because he charged $1 million per person for the course?And you want to learn from that?What, how to charge exhorbitant amounts of money for courses that 30 years ago went for, literally 1/1,000 of that cost?> I would like to see the sides that people think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without emotion> > > - Original Message > From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:16:46 PM> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie > wrote:> >> > When Maharishi was doing the Million dollar course. I thought wow > what a vote of confidence. WOuld I pay Maharishi a million dollars > to be close to him for a month. YES> > > > Why?> > Do you think you'll evolve faster if you're closer to him?> > If in your heart you believe that you are betraying the very Master > you purport to follow because your Master has already told you that > the fastest way to enlightenment is the TM Program, which does not > include guru worship.> > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: sparaig > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:51:33 PM> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian > TMO are a bunch of thugs> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote:> > >> > > 'Untrustworthy'. Juxtaposed betweeen the family 'spiritual' biz > and > > > what was then the 'the teaching', has Maharishi now become > > > untrustworthy? The TMmovement looks now a far cry from what it > was > > > in this 1974 quote below. It's what it has become evidently: > > > untrustworthy as an organization, to a point of fraudulent. > > > > > > Peter's comment here paints a current portrait picture of > Maharishi, > > > as a teacher or his teaching or business man? 'Untrustworthy'? > > > Maharishi puts the call out now and some hundreds only show up. > The > > > Maharishi Effect? What to do to right things with folks and > bring > > > them back?> > > > People move on because they want to move on. Some moved on because > they were offended, > > for valid reasons or invalid reasons, but it isn't the TMO's place > to try to hold onto people. > > And assuming that the money is there to keep the pundits inplace > indefinitely, even YOUR > > assumption--that the TMO needs to placate old-time TMers in order > to make certain projects > > happen--doesn't hold.> > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to:> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links> >> > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links>To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
You and I are perfect to. The problem is not in Maharishi's lack of appreciation of our perfection. The problem is our own lack of appreciation of ourselves. When I see my virtue I can not help but be grateful. WHen I see my lack I understand my resentment. WHen I see my failure I understand my blame, when I see my success I understand my courage. When I see my love of humanity I understand that I have been loved. More than I love Maharishi I give thanks that Maharishi loved me. He showed me that love by letting me slip through the cracks. Letting find my way from the streets of NYC to The POD OF FFIA. Letting me round and round and round some more. Giving me enough of a glimpse to have a small even subtle idea of the leader I could be. I am grateful for this. Excuse the long blah... I needed to do this... - Original Message From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 2:24:48 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> You do realize he lives in a specially made house all alone and > communicates via audio/video only, right?> > While I do believe it is extreme and reactionary in places, you might > want to read the Earl Kaplan letter draft in the files section. Much > of it rings true and has been corroborated by othersmaybe you should start him on the Sexie Sadie tapes and then move him on to the Earl letter...> > On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Louis McKenzie wrote:> > > Well because I respect Maharishi as a business man and I think I > > might learn some things. I would like to see the sides that people > > think are so bad, I would like to see if he can be that way without > > emotion>To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Oh Louis, were you on THP? - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs I read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they just did not understand that it was just time to move on. You expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that does not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that he came and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world we live in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed to be in the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he gives a lot to talk about. Have you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk about you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a household name. Then you will know that you are a success. Well Maharishi has been a success over and over again. I knew David and Earl I think I went to David's first wedding, I really liked them both because I could not always tell the difference. They both stayed on courses and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they were contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up at school anytime and be allowed to attend. Imagine if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and acted just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would be in an all out nuclear war. This is life without Maharishi. I need to write this one for me. People can say whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring whatever it is he brought to the world. I admire people with courage. I have courage because of Maharishi. In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He allowed me to develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision. He created tune up programs for people who get burnt out in the field. I understand that experience. It takes great effort and sacrifice to make major impact. Even one may fail or succeed this doesn't really have anything to do with it. Impact is felt in the effort. Every action has an effect on world consciousness, a thought introduced by Einstein yet demonstrated by Maharishi. If not for Maharishi I do not know if Einstein would be understood. As for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi. There are people who think that if he shits he is not a true rishi. I have seen a small glimpse of what happens. I have seen what it is like to hear people Oh __ is so sweet so wonderful when he is on top. Then when an eb comes he is a crook, a liar a thief, a child molester, a rapist. I was once at Agape church in California and a guy who thought of himself as a psychic was telling people all he knew about me. He told them that I raped women at MIU. That I busted into their rooms and raped them. I LOUIS THOMAS MCKENZIE have never in my life forced a woman, to have sex if she did not want to. At MIU I had very little sex. Yet this guy was an expert on me, not just me anyone African American who had been somewhat popular in the TM/Art of living circles.. He caused a lot of negativity. But I thought he was the most stupid pretender on the planet. Another time I was with a bigot who pretended to be psychic in greece, in a restaurant. She says watch your purses everyone Louis might steal one. I thought what a stupid person. People do and say all kinds of things reflective of who they think they are. As a person of color people are even more apt to believe the bull than one of non color. Michael Jackson is a child molester no matter what the jury voted, OJ Simpson is a murderor, Nelson Mandela is not a great leader but a killer as one 15 year old south african brazilian white skinned girl told me. In the end Maharish might end up living in a cave penniless and with not one follower. Thank God he may not live that long. But this is just what happens. Loyalty is as good as one's ability to keep you loyal. I was in greece for an LRT related program. As my life goes I was doing something that I did not have the money to do. The program was expensive. I got myself and two others through it. Yet what people chose to talk about was that I might
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
make stinking horrible farts and stink even with deodorant. Or even worse maybe be a cocaine freak. Maharishi is perfect because he is who he is. You and I are perfect to. The problem is not in Maharishi's lack of appreciation of our perfection. The problem is our own lack of appreciation of ourselves. When I see my virtue I can not help but be grateful. WHen I see my lack I understand my resentment. WHen I see my failure I understand my blame, when I see my success I understand my courage. When I see my love of humanity I understand that I have been loved. More than I love Maharishi I give thanks that Maharishi loved me. ---Amen Brother. Round and round and round some more. Yep, needed that, to get over about ten acid bad trips when I was thirteen, fourteen years old. People on THP used to think I was special being a devoted meditator on student purusha when I was eighteen or something, but the fact was that the damage was pretty spectacular as well. Wasn't really that I had some hidden depth due to early devotionalism. Though I healed finally being on student THP. A bit too much. Finally thought I was gonna explode. Had to get back to the world. Retire from this, retire from this retiring. Until ya die! Yeah, crack is bad, friend right now in jail for possession. Needed him at work. Hope he learns something. Lots of other friends on dope. Weed=Okay. Not possible to be cooking otherwise TM is better stoned anyway. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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> Hey kirk, you're not supposed to reveal the advanced techniques. ---Of Mahakali? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
What is THP? - Original Message From: llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 1:57:19 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs Oh Louis, were you on THP? - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs I read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they just did not understand that it was just time to move on. You expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that does not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that he came and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world we live in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed to be in the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he gives a lot to talk about. Have you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk about you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a household name. Then you will know that you are a success. Well Maharishi has been a success over and over again. I knew David and Earl I think I went to David's first wedding, I really liked them both because I could not always tell the difference. They both stayed on courses and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they were contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up at school anytime and be allowed to attend. Imagine if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and acted just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would be in an all out nuclear war. This is life without Maharishi. I need to write this one for me. People can say whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring whatever it is he brought to the world. I admire people with courage. I have courage because of Maharishi. In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He allowed me to develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision. He created tune up programs for people who get burnt out in the field. I understand that experience. It takes great effort and sacrifice to make major impact. Even one may fail or succeed this doesn't really have anything to do with it. Impact is felt in the effort. Every action has an effect on world consciousness, a thought introduced by Einstein yet demonstrated by Maharishi. If not for Maharishi I do not know if Einstein would be understood. As for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi. There are people who think that if he shits he is not a true rishi. I have seen a small glimpse of what happens. I have seen what it is like to hear people Oh __ is so sweet so wonderful when he is on top. Then when an eb comes he is a crook, a liar a thief, a child molester, a rapist. I was once at Agape church in California and a guy who thought of himself as a psychic was telling people all he knew about me. He told them that I raped women at MIU. That I busted into their rooms and raped them. I LOUIS THOMAS MCKENZIE have never in my life forced a woman, to have sex if she did not want to. At MIU I had very little sex. Yet this guy was an expert on me, not just me anyone African American who had been somewhat popular in the TM/Art of living circles.. He caused a lot of negativity. But I thought he was the most stupid pretender on the planet. Another time I was with a bigot who pretended to be psychic in greece, in a restaurant. She says watch your purses everyone Louis might steal one. I thought what a stupid person. People do and say all kinds of things reflective of who they think they are. As a person of color people are even more apt to believe the bull than one of non color. Michael Jackson is a child molester no matter what the jury voted, OJ Simpson is a murderor, Nelson Mandela is not a great leader but a killer as one 15 year old south african brazilian white skinned girl told me. In the end Maharish might end up living in a cave penniless and with not one follower. Thank God he may not live that long. But this is just what happens. Loyalty is as good as one's ability to keep you loyal. I was in greece for an LRT related program. As my life goes I was doing something that I did not have the money to do. The program was expensive. I got myself and two others through it. Yet what people chose to talk about was that I might steal becau
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Purusha - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs What is THP? - Original Message From: llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 1:57:19 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs Oh Louis, were you on THP? - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs I read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they just did not understand that it was just time to move on. You expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that does not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that he came and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world we live in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed to be in the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he gives a lot to talk about. Have you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk about you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a household name. Then you will know that you are a success. Well Maharishi has been a success over and over again. I knew David and Earl I think I went to David's first wedding, I really liked them both because I could not always tell the difference. They both stayed on courses and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they were contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up at school anytime and be allowed to attend. Imagine if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and acted just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would be in an all out nuclear war. This is life without Maharishi. I need to write this one for me. People can say whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring whatever it is he brought to the world. I admire people with courage. I have courage because of Maharishi. In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He allowed me to develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision. He created tune up programs for people who get burnt out in the field. I understand that experience. It takes great effort and sacrifice to make major impact. Even one may fail or succeed this doesn't really have anything to do with it. Impact is felt in the effort. Every action has an effect on world consciousness, a thought introduced by Einstein yet demonstrated by Maharishi. If not for Maharishi I do not know if Einstein would be understood. As for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi. There are people who think that if he shits he is not a true rishi. I have seen a small glimpse of what happens. I have seen what it is like to hear people Oh __ is so sweet so wonderful when he is on top. Then when an eb comes he is a crook, a liar a thief, a child molester, a rapist. I was once at Agape church in California and a guy who thought of himself as a psychic was telling people all he knew about me. He told them that I raped women at MIU. That I busted into their rooms and raped them. I LOUIS THOMAS MCKENZIE have never in my life forced a woman, to have sex if she did not want to. At MIU I had very little sex. Yet this guy was an expert on me, not just me anyone African American who had been somewhat popular in the TM/Art of living circles.. He caused a lot of negativity. But I thought he was the most stupid pretender on the planet. Another time I was with a bigot who pretended to be psychic in greece, in a restaurant. She says watch your purses everyone Louis might steal one. I thought what a stupid person. People do and say all kinds of things reflective of who they think they are. As a person of color people are even more apt to believe the bull than one of non color. Michael Jackson is a c
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
I was never on THP but..according to the Kap letter to have been on purusha would have been sigining up for the international robot society - Original Message From: llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:23:21 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs Purusha - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs What is THP? - Original Message From: llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 1:57:19 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs Oh Louis, were you on THP? - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs I read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they just did not understand that it was just time to move on. You expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that does not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that he came and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world we live in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed to be in the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he gives a lot to talk about. Have you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk about you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a household name. Then you will know that you are a success. Well Maharishi has been a success over and over again. I knew David and Earl I think I went to David's first wedding, I really liked them both because I could not always tell the difference. They both stayed on courses and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they were contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up at school anytime and be allowed to attend. Imagine if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and acted just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would be in an all out nuclear war. This is life without Maharishi. I need to write this one for me. People can say whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring whatever it is he brought to the world. I admire people with courage. I have courage because of Maharishi. In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He allowed me to develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision. He created tune up programs for people who get burnt out in the field. I understand that experience. It takes great effort and sacrifice to make major impact. Even one may fail or succeed this doesn't really have anything to do with it. Impact is felt in the effort. Every action has an effect on world consciousness, a thought introduced by Einstein yet demonstrated by Maharishi. If not for Maharishi I do not know if Einstein would be understood. As for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi. There are people who think that if he shits he is not a true rishi. I have seen a small glimpse of what happens. I have seen what it is like to hear people Oh __ is so sweet so wonderful when he is on top. Then when an eb comes he is a crook, a liar a thief, a child molester, a rapist. I was once at Agape church in California and a guy who thought of himself as a psychic was telling people all he knew about me. He told them that I raped women at MIU. That I busted into their rooms and raped them. I LOUIS THOMAS MCKENZIE have never in my life forced a woman, to have sex if she did not want to. At MIU I had very little sex. Yet this guy was an expert on me, not just me anyone African American who had been somewhat popular in the TM/Art of living circles.. He caused a lot of negativity. But I thought he was the most stupid pretender on the planet. Another time I was with a bigot who pretended to be psychic in greece, in a restaurant. She says watch your purses everyone Louis might steal one. I thought what a stupid person. People do and say all kinds of things reflective of who they think they are. As a person of color people are even more apt to believe the bull than one of non color. Michael Jackson is a child molester no matter what the jury
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Not so. They are very kind and gentle people
for the most part. Louis Weiss, the person who gave my intro lecture 25 years
ago is still on there. I'm sure he manifests rainbows wherever he goes. He no
robot. God Bless Him. Walking Bardo of Clear Light. That's of course, just a
guess. But I feel that if I had been rounding for that long it's what would have
happened by now, instead of this
- Original Message -
From:
Louis McKenzie
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:16
PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another
corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
I
was never on THP but..according to the Kap letter to have been on
purusha would have been sigining up for the international robot
society
-
Original Message From: llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent:
Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:23:21 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:
Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Purusha
- Original Message -
From: Louis McKenzie
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006
11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:
Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
What
is THP?
-
Original Message From: llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November
1, 2006 1:57:19 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration
that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Oh Louis, were you on THP?
- Original Message -
From: Louis McKenzie
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006
7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:
Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
I
read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can
say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I
have known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the
money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take
it that they just did not understand that it was just time to move
on.
You
expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that
does not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that
he came and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world
we live in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed
to be in the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he
gives a lot to talk about.
Have
you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most
contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk
about you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a
household name. Then you will know that you are a
success. Well Maharishi has been a success over and over
again. I knew David and Earl I think I went
to David's first wedding, I really liked them both because I
could not always tell the difference. They both stayed on courses
and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they were
contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up at
school anytime and be allowed to attend.
Imagine
if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no
MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and
acted just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would
be in an all out nuclear war. This is life
without Maharishi. I need to write this one for me.
People can say whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to
bring whatever it is he brought to the world.
I
admire people with courage. I have courage because of
Maharishi. In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He
allowed me to develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision.
He created tune up programs for people who get burnt out in the
field. I understand that experience. It takes great
effort and sacrifice to make major impact. Even one may fail or
succeed this doesn't really have anything to do with it.
Impact is felt in the effort. Every action has an effect on world
consciousness, a thought introduced by Einstein yet demonstrated by
Maharishi. If not for Maharishi I do not know if Einstein
would be understood.
As
for me I can tell you that it takes a lot to be a Maharishi.
There are people who think that if he shits he is not a true
rishi. I have seen a small glimpse
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Well that goes back to my earlier post. I had one friend who went on Purusha the first chance he got. Horus Msmage before he went on Purusha he was a robot. When he would talk about the gita he would quote the page the paragraph and the verse. Just like a robot. Yet he got the Sidhis through the citizens courses. He did his last block at MIU, I was with him, I dont remember if we arrranged for him to stay in one of the room in my pod or what, but he dressed up in a Tux to walk across campus to the frats to get his flying technique. Oh Boy! I walked near him but not with him. I have seen him maybe once since he went on Purusha so I do not know if he is still robot material but who knows. He big desire was to become enlightened. If that means clearing the mind so Maharishi's Rakshasha can take control, I dont know. Hope not. - Original Message From: llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:29:38 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs Not so. They are very kind and gentle people for the most part. Louis Weiss, the person who gave my intro lecture 25 years ago is still on there. I'm sure he manifests rainbows wherever he goes. He no robot. God Bless Him. Walking Bardo of Clear Light. That's of course, just a guess. But I feel that if I had been rounding for that long it's what would have happened by now, instead of this - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs I was never on THP but..according to the Kap letter to have been on purusha would have been sigining up for the international robot society - Original Message From: llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:23:21 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs Purusha - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs What is THP? - Original Message From: llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 1:57:19 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs Oh Louis, were you on THP? - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs I read all of those things letters websites you name it.. Yet I can say that Earl has been an odd ball his whole life. ( so have I) Figure I have known Earl and David since we were kids. With all the money they have and their parents have spent with Maharishi I would take it that they just did not understand that it was just time to move on. You expect him to be what we are not. You expect some perfection that does not exist anywhere. The perfection of Maharishi is that he came and opened the west to things that have greatly changed the world we live in. I feel for the better. We should be blessed to be in the pressence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi if for no other reason he gives a lot to talk about. Have you ever noticed that people who are the most successful are also the most contraversial. Someone once said that the more people talk about you, the more you should smile let them talk until you become a household name. Then you will know that you are a success. Well Maharishi has been a success over and over again. I knew David and Earl I think I went to David's first wedding, I really liked them both because I could not always tell the difference. They both stayed on courses and also stayed in deep water. Some would say they were contraversial, because they had a tendancy to think they could show up at school anytime and be allowed to attend. Imagine if they never meditated. Imagine if there was no tm, no punditji, no MIU, just plain old Christianity. Imagine if you thought and acted just like George Bush. Imagine a world where by now we would be in an all out nuclear war. This is life without Maharishi. I need to write this one for me. People can say whatever but he had the balls and the vision to come out to bring whatever it is he brought to the world. I admire people with courage. I have courage because of Maharishi. In that way Maharishi really messed me up. He allowed me to develop courage, strength inner motivation and vision. He created tune up programs for people who get burnt out in the field. I understand that experien
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
On Nov 1, 2006, at 8:43 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was never on THP but..according to the Kap letter to have been on purusha would have been sigining up for the international robot society Rick, were you and your friends robotic? Would someone please give Lawson an Ambien? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
