[FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuff

2007-01-20 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
  Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 10:33 AM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Death and Stuff
  
   He has known for about a year and hasn't even told his family. He
  goes
   to the dome and is happy.
  
  If he's happy, great--we  should all be so lucky.  Is he getting any
  support from the TMO?
  
 Haven't heard. In fact, it would be interesting to know what kind of
support
 other notables who've died received. Skip Alexander, Jane Hopson, etc.

Notables in the tmo tend to have money which helps in that situation.
   The problem is with purushas and MDs (and other full timer staff)
who get kicked off if diagnosed with a disease and they have little to
no money and are generally estranged from their families - their
spiritual group was their family but that's taken from them when they
get sick which is the time they need that kind of support.  OFten they
still have ideas about ayurved or yagyas curing them which motivates
them to make foolish treatment choices.  PLus they're out in the world
maybe for the first time in decades which would be difficult enough
for them even without being sick.  This has created a very difficult
situation for many people and it's only going to increase in frequency
as the baby boomers in the tmo approach their 60s.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuff

2007-01-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 20, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
  My sources tell me that:
  1. No one on campus committed suicide.
 
 Good to hear and pretty much what I figured. But the real question, 
 Rick, is...what does the Magic 8-Ball say?
 
  2. There is a guy living in Utopia Park who's dying slowly (aren't we 
  all?).
 
 I was thinking that as well.
 
  He has known for about a year and hasn't even told his family. He goes 
  to the dome and is happy.
 
 If he's happy, great--we  should all be so lucky.  Is he getting any 
 support from the TMO?

If he hasn't even told his maily, what makes yo think that the TMO has been 
notified?

And what support do y ou think the TMO should be giving him and why? For 
instance, is it 
a progressively deteriorating condition where he willneed more and more life 
support? 
Should the TMO provide that? Etc.

   
  BTW, Death and Stuff was the name a friend of mine came up with for 
  a hypothetical trendy Georgetown mortuary. Anyone looking for a hot 
  business idea?
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuff

2007-01-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
  Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 10:33 AM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Death and Stuff
  
   He has known for about a year and hasn't even told his family. He
  goes
   to the dome and is happy.
  
  If he's happy, great--we  should all be so lucky.  Is he getting any
  support from the TMO?
  
 Haven't heard. In fact, it would be interesting to know what kind of support
 other notables who've died received. Skip Alexander, Jane Hopson, etc.


I don't know about Jane Hopson. Skip got his 15 minutes of fame though:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/vd6c929y75u5/\
?sortorder=ascv=condensedo=10

Volume 7, Number 4 / October, 2000
Journal Journal of Adult Development
Publisher   Springer Netherlands
ISSN1068-0667 (Print) 1573-3440 (Online)
Subject Behavioral Science
Pages   189-290
SpringerLink Date   Sunday, October 31, 2004

1.  Add to marked items
A Biographical Sketch of Charles Skip Alexander (1949–1998)
Author  Jane Schmidt-Wilk
TextPDF (30 kb)  

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A Developmental Approach to Social Science: A Model for Analyzing Charles 
Alexander's 
Scientific Contributions
Author  William R. Torbert
TextPDF (96 kb)  

3.  Add to marked items
An Overview of Charles Alexander's Contribution to Psychology: Developing 
Higher States 
of Consciousness in the Individual and the Society
Author  David W. Orme-Johnson
TextPDF (201 kb)  

4.  Add to marked items
Attending to the Fine Feeling Level
Author  Frederick Travis
TextPDF (19 kb)  

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Creating a Better World
Author  Marilyn Schlitz
TextPDF (19 kb)  

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Introducing Executives to the Transcendental Meditation Program
Author  Mary Martha Stevens
TextPDF (29 kb)  

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Life Lessons from Skip
Author  Dennis P. Heaton
TextPDF (21 kb)  

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Mature Ego Development: A Gateway to Ego Transcendence?
Author  Susanne R. Cook-Greuter
TextPDF (149 kb)  

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Mental Attention, Consciousness, and the Progressive Emergence of Wisdom
Author  Juan Pascual-Leone
TextPDF (107 kb)  

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Moral Development and Higher States of Consciousness
Authors Sanford I. Nidich, Randi J. Nidich and Charles N. Alexander
TextPDF (106 kb)  


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One by One
Author  Toni Alazraki
TextPDF (20 kb)  

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Preface
Authors Susanne R. Cook-Greuter and Melvin E. Miller
TextPDF (31 kb)  

13. Add to marked items
Skip Alexander—A Visionary and a Warrior
Author  Jim Fairchild
TextPDF (20 kb)  

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Skip, Teaching from Bliss
Author  Jane Schmidt-Wilk
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Skip's Smile
Author  Klaus Volkamer
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Spiritual Seeker and Psychologist
Authors Charles N. Skip Alexander and Victoria K. Alexander
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This-worldly Mysticism: Inner Peace and World Transformation in the Work and 
Life of 
Charles Skip Alexander
Author  Jeffrey C. Alexander
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Transforming Corporate Consciousness
Author  Franz-Theo Gottwald
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Tribute to Dr. Charles Alexander
Author  Bevan Morris
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuff

2007-01-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
   -Original Message-
   From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
   Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 10:33 AM
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Death and Stuff
   
He has known for about a year and hasn't even told his family. He
   goes
to the dome and is happy.
   
   If he's happy, great--we  should all be so lucky.  Is he getting any
   support from the TMO?
   
  Haven't heard. In fact, it would be interesting to know what kind of
 support
  other notables who've died received. Skip Alexander, Jane Hopson, etc.
 
 Notables in the tmo tend to have money which helps in that situation.
The problem is with purushas and MDs (and other full timer staff)
 who get kicked off if diagnosed with a disease and they have little to
 no money and are generally estranged from their families

I'm sure it varies from person to person, but the only members of Purusha I 
know/knew 
were people like Rick Archer, George Brown, and the like. Rick can speak for 
himself, but 
George Brown's family was entirely supportive of his involvement with Purusha, 
at least 
according to his sisters.

 - their
 spiritual group was their family but that's taken from them when they
 get sick which is the time they need that kind of support.  OFten they
 still have ideas about ayurved or yagyas curing them which motivates
 them to make foolish treatment choices.  PLus they're out in the world
 maybe for the first time in decades which would be difficult enough
 for them even without being sick.  This has created a very difficult
 situation for many people and it's only going to increase in frequency
 as the baby boomers in the tmo approach their 60s.





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuff

2007-01-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of sparaig
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:05 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuf

I don't know about Jane Hopson. 

 

I think Jane died of ALS - Lou Gehrig's disease.



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuff

2007-01-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of sparaig
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:12 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuff


I'm sure it varies from person to person, but the only members of Purusha I
know/knew 
were people like Rick Archer, George Brown, and the like. Rick can speak for
himself, but 
George Brown's family was entirely supportive of his involvement with
Purusha, at least 
according to his sisters.




Early in my movement involvement my father said, hey, I'm not happy, so who
am I to tell you how to be happy. He meditated, went to Poland Spring and
the Amherst SCI symposium and various residence courses, but still died an
alcoholic. My mother spent 9 months in Switzerland on International Staff,
took the first phase of TTC, lived in FF, etc. So both were supportive, but
both, towards the end of their lives, began to grumble about aspects of the
TMO they found weird, unfair, etc. One of my sisters lives on campus in an
SV house, her husband is on faculty, kids in MSAE/MUM, the whole enchilada.
But she's supportive of what I'm doing now.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuff

2007-01-20 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Death and Stuff
  
   He has known for about a year and hasn't even told his family. He
  goes
   to the dome and is happy.
  
  If he's happy, great--we  should all be so lucky.  Is he getting any
  support from the TMO?
  
 Haven't heard. In fact, it would be interesting to know what kind of 
support
 other notables who've died received. Skip Alexander, Jane Hopson, etc.


Yeah, the mortality rate up there is kind of up there.  They don't call 
it 'Heavenly Lane' for nothing.  Jane Hopson, Charlie Lieb, Mother 
Drier.  Is Jane's house still empty?  Run, as if your SV house is on 
fire!

   



[FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuff

2007-01-20 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
 
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Death and Stuff
  Is he getting any
   support from the TMO?
   
  Haven't heard. In fact, it would be interesting to know what kind 
of 
 support
  other notables who've died received. Skip Alexander, Jane Hopson, 
etc.
 
 
 Yeah, the mortality rate up there is kind of up there.  


They don't call it 
'Heavenly Lane' for nothing.

Yeah, and if you live there on 'Heavenly Lane', it is a pretty short 
road too.

  Jane Hopson, Charlie Lieb, Mother 
 Drier.  Is Jane's house still empty?  

Run, as if your MSV house is on 
 fire!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Death and Stuff

2007-01-20 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
  
  
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Death and Stuff
   Is he getting any
support from the TMO?

   Haven't heard. In fact, it would be interesting to know what 
kind 
 of 
  support
   other notables who've died received. Skip Alexander, Jane 
Hopson, 
 etc.
  
  
  Yeah, the mortality rate up there is kind of up there.  
 
 
 They don't call it 
 'Heavenly Lane' for nothing.
 
 Yeah, and if you live there on 'Heavenly Lane', it is a pretty 
short 
 road too.
 
not as short as Skid Row, though...