[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers. Hey Rick!

2015-06-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 Clearly Buck/Doug is a maniac who should NOT be allowed to go through the 
files deleting posts that HE alone considers against the guidelines.
 

 As far as we know, Doug (not Buck) hasn't deleted any posts.
 

 HE made the comments that started the conversations that he has removed.
 

 According to Doug, Rick removed those posts.
 

 If he is embarrassed about them now that's just tough. We all have to rake 
responsibility for what we say. If Doug is going to make clear allusions to the 
use of violence then we are going to comment on it. 
 

 Most of us make allusions to the use of violence at some point or other in 
remarking on an instance thereof in the big world out there. That's all Doug 
did.
 

 He can't be allowed deleting other people's posts because he's presented an 
image of himself that doesn't fit in with his professed love of peace.
 

 He didn't.
 

 We saw two days ago that he is incapable of discerning whether a post is 
offensive when he demanded that Turq delete a criticism of David Lynch. Lynch 
is a public figure and a member of the TMO and as such is a fair subject for 
discussion. You can't delete a post that calls him gullible for paying a 
million bucks for a course taught by the great man himself and then criticises 
Marshy for not even showing up in person. These are fair comments whether you 
like them or not.
 

 I agree. But that post hasn't been deleted.
 

 Buck wanted them deleted because he thought that they might put of people in 
the DLF from coming here to post! I think they should come here and get a 
different perspective rather than the we are perfect one that the TMO likes 
to award itself but anyway that's up to them, this censorship is NOT a fair use 
of the guidelines. 
 

 Doug (and presumably you) promised that he would be fair in his dealing with 
us but he is clearly behaving in a partisan manner and using the guidelines 
disingenuously to cover himself. Perhaps he thinks he's doing the right thing 
but you have to be able to tell the difference between fair comments and abuse.
 

 He made a mistake with that post, IMHO. He apparently didn't follow through, 
though, so it's not impossible he's realized he was wrong. I doubt any of us, 
taking on the job of moderator for the first time, would do so without making 
at least one mistake.
 

 I'm concerned about this because we could lose a lot of interesting and 
relevant stuff if he carries on with his jihad against us apostates.
 

 So far the jihad exists only in the imagination of the apostates.
 

 (PS isn't it funny seeing Judy accuse someone of bias about Barry!)
 

 Kinda like accusing someone of being partial to Rush Limbaugh (a virulently 
nasty and appallingly dishonest radio talk show host).
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers. Hey Rick!

2015-06-19 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers. Hey Rick!

2015-06-19 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 I looked at the log, and Doug has yet to delete one post. Rick deleted a bunch 
of posts, and a few folks have deleted their own posts. That's it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 Clearly Buck/Doug is a maniac who should NOT be allowed to go through the 
files deleting posts that HE alone considers against the guidelines.
 

 As far as we know, Doug (not Buck) hasn't deleted any posts.
 

 HE made the comments that started the conversations that he has removed.
 

 According to Doug, Rick removed those posts.
 

 If he is embarrassed about them now that's just tough. We all have to rake 
responsibility for what we say. If Doug is going to make clear allusions to the 
use of violence then we are going to comment on it. 
 

 Most of us make allusions to the use of violence at some point or other in 
remarking on an instance thereof in the big world out there. That's all Doug 
did.
 

 He can't be allowed deleting other people's posts because he's presented an 
image of himself that doesn't fit in with his professed love of peace.
 

 He didn't.
 

 We saw two days ago that he is incapable of discerning whether a post is 
offensive when he demanded that Turq delete a criticism of David Lynch. Lynch 
is a public figure and a member of the TMO and as such is a fair subject for 
discussion. You can't delete a post that calls him gullible for paying a 
million bucks for a course taught by the great man himself and then criticises 
Marshy for not even showing up in person. These are fair comments whether you 
like them or not.
 

 I agree. But that post hasn't been deleted.
 

 Buck wanted them deleted because he thought that they might put of people in 
the DLF from coming here to post! I think they should come here and get a 
different perspective rather than the we are perfect one that the TMO likes 
to award itself but anyway that's up to them, this censorship is NOT a fair use 
of the guidelines. 
 

 Doug (and presumably you) promised that he would be fair in his dealing with 
us but he is clearly behaving in a partisan manner and using the guidelines 
disingenuously to cover himself. Perhaps he thinks he's doing the right thing 
but you have to be able to tell the difference between fair comments and abuse.
 

 He made a mistake with that post, IMHO. He apparently didn't follow through, 
though, so it's not impossible he's realized he was wrong. I doubt any of us, 
taking on the job of moderator for the first time, would do so without making 
at least one mistake.
 

 I'm concerned about this because we could lose a lot of interesting and 
relevant stuff if he carries on with his jihad against us apostates.
 

 So far the jihad exists only in the imagination of the apostates.
 

 (PS isn't it funny seeing Judy accuse someone of bias about Barry!)
 

 Kinda like accusing someone of being partial to Rush Limbaugh (a virulently 
nasty and appallingly dishonest radio talk show host).
 







[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's right, it doesn't quote 415501. You get a gold star. We don't know what 
the message number was, but we do have the full text quoted in 415504. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 It wasn't quoting #415501. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, Hands up, Don't Shoot!.   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ah, simile but not satire.

  From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers
   
    Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of theevidence presented below in context 
quite evidently this is not an actionable threatas you and others seem so 
willingly to misinterpret it but a similebased on an empathy around a larger 
order. Case dismissed. Noaction of moderation required against Buck. -JaiGuruYou



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote :

The fact that he declared my actions diabolical just before saying he would 
have me on the drone list was the best part. 

At least he did sign his handiwork Kindly
That was nice.
But yes I do wish I could put and end to the TMO and its so called 
consciousness based education. 

I will celebrate when Girish sells MUM and all its properties either to pay his 
mounting legal bills or just because he's getting old and doesn't give a crap 
anymore and wants to surround himself with as much gold and as many hookers as 
he can before he drops his body. 

  From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:58 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers
 
 All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon):
Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TMMJ, you bet. More 
experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the basis of spiritual 
progress and transformation, call that cultivation a transcendent meditation 
however you want; transcending can go by different names culturally but it in 
large nature is all the same. These people were glad to have run in to TM as it 
was taught and started something for themselves then. Now, otherwise it is 
something else to wonder that you methodically dissuade your friends from 
meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively work to sink transcendental 
meditation and consciousness-based education.  That is incredibly anti-science 
and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and diabolical. I can empathize 
with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the nation I'd have you 
straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting enemy-combatant to 
civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could get your own 
meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.Kindly,-Buck in the Dome
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :



Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says:
'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, Hands up, Don't Shoot!.   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

The posts in question were made on May 25.

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon): 

 Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM
 MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the 
basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a 
transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different 
names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad 
to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves 
then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically 
dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively 
work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education.  That 
is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and 
diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the 
nation I'd have you straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting 
enemy-combatant to civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could 
get your own meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.
 Kindly,
 -Buck in the Dome

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, Hands up, Don't Shoot!.   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 









 
  



[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers. Hey Rick!

2015-06-18 Thread salyavin808

 Clearly Buck/Doug is a maniac who should NOT be allowed to go through the 
files deleting posts that HE alone considers against the guidelines.
 

 HE made the comments that started the conversations that he has removed. If he 
is embarrassed about them now that's just tough. We all have to rake 
responsibility for what we say. If Doug is going to make clear allusions to the 
use of violence then we are going to comment on it. 
 

 He can't be allowed deleting other people's posts because he's presented an 
image of himself that doesn't fit in with his professed love of peace.
 

 We saw two days ago that he is incapable of discerning whether a post is 
offensive when he demanded that Turq delete a criticism of David Lynch. Lynch 
is a public figure and a member of the TMO and as such is a fair subject for 
discussion. You can't delete a post that calls him gullible for paying a 
million bucks for a course taught by the great man himself and then criticises 
Marshy for not even showing up in person. These are fair comments whether you 
like them or not.
 

 Buck wanted them deleted because he thought that they might put of people in 
the DLF from coming here to post! I think they should come here and get a 
different perspective rather than the we are perfect one that the TMO likes 
to award itself but anyway that's up to them, this censorship is NOT a fair use 
of the guidelines. 
 

 Doug (and presumably you) promised that he would be fair in his dealing with 
us but he is clearly behaving in a partisan manner and using the guidelines 
disingenuously to cover himself. Perhaps he thinks he's doing the right thing 
but you have to be able to tell the difference between fair comments and abuse.
 

 I'm concerned about this because we could lose a lot of interesting and 
relevant stuff if he carries on with his jihad against us apostates.
 

 

 (PS isn't it funny seeing Judy accuse someone of bias about Barry!)
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 
 Yes, the biker event was the impetus for the current spate, but in post 
#415501 the drone issue is mentioned, and has been brought up a number of times.
 

 And  'dh...' has just posted the following trying to downplay the drone 
comment in his usual opaque prose.
 

 'Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of the evidence presented below in context 
quite evidently this is not an actionable threat as you and others seem so 
willingly to misinterpret it but a simile based on an empathy around a larger 
order. Case dismissed. No action of moderation required against Buck.'
 

 There are very few actionable threats on FFL, just empty threats and put-downs 
most of the time. Turq seems to just say what he wants and at some point stops. 
I really don't know if he ever recants anything he says. 'Buck' is to my mind 
hypocritical in maintaining a certain moral stance, while Turq is 
hypercritical, and morality is not a concern. He has not mentioned the word 
this year in relation to himself. Last year he gave this definition of morality 
in relation to religion:
 

 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad 
Things don't happen to you after your death.
 

 I myself don't think in terms of morality. The word ethics comes to mind, but 
in a world in which pure being somehow runs the show, such a concept is 
meaningless. If the laws of nature are truly laws, then everything we do is a 
function of those, and we need not be concerned about morality or ethics. Those 
concepts are for those trying to figure out why the world behaves differently 
than they would like, and those words only apply to those whose behaviour we 
find disturbing compared to the way we think of our own, even if we behave the 
same way, but pretend we are not behaving the same way. We do not think of an 
auto-mobile, a lawn mower, or a toothbrush as having a moral compass, the word 
is aimed at our own species only.
 

 So I do not think Turq is concerned with the concept of morality except in the 
case when someone else uses the word to justify their actions and statements in 
which case it becomes a lever to pry out prevarication; and note that 
prevarication can be used to bring prevarication to light. So wonderfully dark 
it sparkles!
 

 I am not interested in exonerating Turq, or Buck, or you, or myself. 
Exoneration implies a level of loftitude, incorruptibility, principle, and 
sincerity as the basis for FFL and its opposing teams of henchmen that hardly 
seems underlie the actuality here. And a faux moralist like 'Buck' does not 
undermine that contention. We are scrapping here for the hell of it, and if one 
considers this place serious business aimed at a better world, then all of that 
sentiment is for naught. Perhaps if it helps us see a bit deeper into our 
folly, it might have a bit of a positive ring to it.
 

 As the character of Captain Louis Renault in the movie Casablanca says...
 

 Renault: Everybody is to leave here 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It wasn't quoting #415501. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, Hands up, Don't Shoot!.   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 










Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The fact that he declared my actions diabolical just before saying he would 
have me on the drone list was the best part. 

At least he did sign his handiwork Kindly
That was nice.
But yes I do wish I could put and end to the TMO and its so called 
consciousness based education. 

I will celebrate when Girish sells MUM and all its properties either to pay his 
mounting legal bills or just because he's getting old and doesn't give a crap 
anymore and wants to surround himself with as much gold and as many hookers as 
he can before he drops his body. 

  From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:58 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers
   
    All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 
'MJ' (the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon):
Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TMMJ, you bet. More 
experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the basis of spiritual 
progress and transformation, call that cultivation a transcendent meditation 
however you want; transcending can go by different names culturally but it in 
large nature is all the same. These people were glad to have run in to TM as it 
was taught and started something for themselves then. Now, otherwise it is 
something else to wonder that you methodically dissuade your friends from 
meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively work to sink transcendental 
meditation and consciousness-based education.  That is incredibly anti-science 
and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and diabolical. I can empathize 
with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the nation I'd have you 
straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting enemy-combatant to 
civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could get your own 
meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.Kindly,-Buck in the Dome
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :



Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says:
'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, Hands up, Don't Shoot!.   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

The posts in question were made on May 25.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
the last part of this is one of the best posts ever on FFL!

  From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:36 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers
   
    
Yes, the biker event was the impetus for the current spate, but in post #415501 
the drone issue is mentioned, and has been brought up a number of times.
And  'dh...' has just posted the following trying to downplay the drone comment 
in his usual opaque prose.
'Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of the evidence presented below in context quite 
evidently this is not an actionable threat as you and others seem so willingly 
to misinterpret it but a simile based on an empathy around a larger order. Case 
dismissed. No action of moderation required against Buck.'
There are very few actionable threats on FFL, just empty threats and put-downs 
most of the time. Turq seems to just say what he wants and at some point stops. 
I really don't know if he ever recants anything he says. 'Buck' is to my mind 
hypocritical in maintaining a certain moral stance, while Turq is 
hypercritical, and morality is not a concern. He has not mentioned the word 
this year in relation to himself. Last year he gave this definition of morality 
in relation to religion:
'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad 
Things don't happen to you after your death.
I myself don't think in terms of morality. The word ethics comes to mind, but 
in a world in which pure being somehow runs the show, such a concept is 
meaningless. If the laws of nature are truly laws, then everything we do is a 
function of those, and we need not be concerned about morality or ethics. Those 
concepts are for those trying to figure out why the world behaves differently 
than they would like, and those words only apply to those whose behaviour we 
find disturbing compared to the way we think of our own, even if we behave the 
same way, but pretend we are not behaving the same way. We do not think of an 
auto-mobile, a lawn mower, or a toothbrush as having a moral compass, the word 
is aimed at our own species only.
So I do not think Turq is concerned with the concept of morality except in the 
case when someone else uses the word to justify their actions and statements in 
which case it becomes a lever to pry out prevarication; and note that 
prevarication can be used to bring prevarication to light. So wonderfully dark 
it sparkles!
I am not interested in exonerating Turq, or Buck, or you, or myself. 
Exoneration implies a level of loftitude, incorruptibility, principle, and 
sincerity as the basis for FFL and its opposing teams of henchmen that hardly 
seems underlie the actuality here. And a faux moralist like 'Buck' does not 
undermine that contention. We are scrapping here for the hell of it, and if one 
considers this place serious business aimed at a better world, then all of that 
sentiment is for naught. Perhaps if it helps us see a bit deeper into our 
folly, it might have a bit of a positive ring to it.
As the character of Captain Louis Renault in the movie Casablanca says...
Renault: Everybody is to leave here immediately! This café is closed until 
further notice. Clear the room, at once!Rick: How can you close me up? On what 
grounds?Renault: I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in 
here!Croupier: [hands Renault money] Your winnings, sir.Renault (quietly): Oh, 
thank you very much. (louder) Everybody out at once!
This is the ethics of this place.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :



Let's not get confused here. It's much more closely related to a post made by 
Doug (not Buck) on May 25, 2015, about the biker fight at the Twin Peaks 
restaurant in Waco, Texas.
We know you're doing your best to exonerate Turqb. That tells us a lot about 
who you are.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon):
Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TMMJ, you bet. More 
experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the basis of spiritual 
progress and transformation, call that cultivation a transcendent meditation 
however you want; transcending can go by different names culturally but it in 
large nature is all the same. These people were glad to have run in to TM as it 
was taught and started something for themselves then. Now, otherwise it is 
something else to wonder that you methodically dissuade your friends from 
meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively work to sink transcendental 
meditation and consciousness-based education.  That is incredibly anti-science 
and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and diabolical. I can empathize 
with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the nation I'd have you 
straight-away

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Let's not get confused here. It's much more closely related to a post made by 
Doug (not Buck) on May 25, 2015, about the biker fight at the Twin Peaks 
restaurant in Waco, Texas. 

 We know you're doing your best to exonerate Turqb. That tells us a lot about 
who you are.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon): 

 Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM
 MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the 
basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a 
transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different 
names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad 
to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves 
then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically 
dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively 
work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education.  That 
is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and 
diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the 
nation I'd have you straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting 
enemy-combatant to civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could 
get your own meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.
 Kindly,
 -Buck in the Dome

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, Hands up, Don't Shoot!.   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 









 
  






[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 Yes, the biker event was the impetus for the current spate, but in post 
#415501 the drone issue is mentioned, and has been brought up a number of times.
 

 And  'dh...' has just posted the following trying to downplay the drone 
comment in his usual opaque prose.
 

 'Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of the evidence presented below in context 
quite evidently this is not an actionable threat as you and others seem so 
willingly to misinterpret it but a simile based on an empathy around a larger 
order. Case dismissed. No action of moderation required against Buck.'
 

 There are very few actionable threats on FFL, just empty threats and put-downs 
most of the time. Turq seems to just say what he wants and at some point stops. 
I really don't know if he ever recants anything he says. 'Buck' is to my mind 
hypocritical in maintaining a certain moral stance, while Turq is 
hypercritical, and morality is not a concern. He has not mentioned the word 
this year in relation to himself. Last year he gave this definition of morality 
in relation to religion:
 

 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad 
Things don't happen to you after your death.
 

 I myself don't think in terms of morality. The word ethics comes to mind, but 
in a world in which pure being somehow runs the show, such a concept is 
meaningless. If the laws of nature are truly laws, then everything we do is a 
function of those, and we need not be concerned about morality or ethics. Those 
concepts are for those trying to figure out why the world behaves differently 
than they would like, and those words only apply to those whose behaviour we 
find disturbing compared to the way we think of our own, even if we behave the 
same way, but pretend we are not behaving the same way. We do not think of an 
auto-mobile, a lawn mower, or a toothbrush as having a moral compass, the word 
is aimed at our own species only.
 

 So I do not think Turq is concerned with the concept of morality except in the 
case when someone else uses the word to justify their actions and statements in 
which case it becomes a lever to pry out prevarication; and note that 
prevarication can be used to bring prevarication to light. So wonderfully dark 
it sparkles!
 

 I am not interested in exonerating Turq, or Buck, or you, or myself. 
Exoneration implies a level of loftitude, incorruptibility, principle, and 
sincerity as the basis for FFL and its opposing teams of henchmen that hardly 
seems underlie the actuality here. And a faux moralist like 'Buck' does not 
undermine that contention. We are scrapping here for the hell of it, and if one 
considers this place serious business aimed at a better world, then all of that 
sentiment is for naught. Perhaps if it helps us see a bit deeper into our 
folly, it might have a bit of a positive ring to it.
 

 As the character of Captain Louis Renault in the movie Casablanca says...
 

 Renault: Everybody is to leave here immediately! This café is closed until 
further notice. Clear the room, at once!
 Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?
 Renault: I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
 Croupier: [hands Renault money] Your winnings, sir.
 Renault (quietly): Oh, thank you very much. (louder) Everybody out at once!
 

 This is the ethics of this place.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Let's not get confused here. It's much more closely related to a post made by 
Doug (not Buck) on May 25, 2015, about the biker fight at the Twin Peaks 
restaurant in Waco, Texas. 

 We know you're doing your best to exonerate Turqb. That tells us a lot about 
who you are.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon): 

 Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM
 MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the 
basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a 
transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different 
names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad 
to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves 
then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically 
dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively 
work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education.  That 
is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and 
diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the 
nation I'd have you straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting 
enemy-combatant to civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could 
get your own meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.
 Kindly,
 -Buck in the Dome

---In 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of the evidence presented below in context quite 
evidently this is not an actionable threat as you and others seem so willingly 
to misinterpret it but a simile based on an empathy around a larger order. Case 
dismissed. No action of moderation required against Buck. 
 -JaiGuruYou
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote :

 The fact that he declared my actions diabolical just before saying he would 
have me on the drone list was the best part. 

 

 At least he did sign his handiwork Kindly
 

 That was nice.
 

 But yes I do wish I could put and end to the TMO and its so called 
consciousness based education. 

 

 I will celebrate when Girish sells MUM and all its properties either to pay 
his mounting legal bills or just because he's getting old and doesn't give a 
crap anymore and wants to surround himself with as much gold and as many 
hookers as he can before he drops his body. 

 

 From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:58 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers
 
 
   All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 
'MJ' (the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon):
 

 Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM
 MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the 
basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a 
transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different 
names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad 
to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves 
then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically 
dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively 
work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education.  That 
is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and 
diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the 
nation I'd have you straight-away on the drone list as a dangerous plotting 
enemy-combatant to civil society. I was going to suggest that may be you could 
get your own meditation checked for efficacy at transcendence.
 Kindly,
 -Buck in the Dome

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 


 Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, Hands up, Don't Shoot!.   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 










 
  


 


 













[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I won't comment except to say I'm not surprised you find ethics and morality 
meaningless. Beyond that, I don't want to use personalized invective. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 
 Yes, the biker event was the impetus for the current spate, but in post 
#415501 the drone issue is mentioned, and has been brought up a number of times.
 

 And  'dh...' has just posted the following trying to downplay the drone 
comment in his usual opaque prose.
 

 'Dear MJ, on a fair re-reading of the evidence presented below in context 
quite evidently this is not an actionable threat as you and others seem so 
willingly to misinterpret it but a simile based on an empathy around a larger 
order. Case dismissed. No action of moderation required against Buck.'
 

 There are very few actionable threats on FFL, just empty threats and put-downs 
most of the time. Turq seems to just say what he wants and at some point stops. 
I really don't know if he ever recants anything he says. 'Buck' is to my mind 
hypocritical in maintaining a certain moral stance, while Turq is 
hypercritical, and morality is not a concern. He has not mentioned the word 
this year in relation to himself. Last year he gave this definition of morality 
in relation to religion:
 

 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad 
Things don't happen to you after your death.
 

 I myself don't think in terms of morality. The word ethics comes to mind, but 
in a world in which pure being somehow runs the show, such a concept is 
meaningless. If the laws of nature are truly laws, then everything we do is a 
function of those, and we need not be concerned about morality or ethics. Those 
concepts are for those trying to figure out why the world behaves differently 
than they would like, and those words only apply to those whose behaviour we 
find disturbing compared to the way we think of our own, even if we behave the 
same way, but pretend we are not behaving the same way. We do not think of an 
auto-mobile, a lawn mower, or a toothbrush as having a moral compass, the word 
is aimed at our own species only.
 

 So I do not think Turq is concerned with the concept of morality except in the 
case when someone else uses the word to justify their actions and statements in 
which case it becomes a lever to pry out prevarication; and note that 
prevarication can be used to bring prevarication to light. So wonderfully dark 
it sparkles!
 

 I am not interested in exonerating Turq, or Buck, or you, or myself. 
Exoneration implies a level of loftitude, incorruptibility, principle, and 
sincerity as the basis for FFL and its opposing teams of henchmen that hardly 
seems underlie the actuality here. And a faux moralist like 'Buck' does not 
undermine that contention. We are scrapping here for the hell of it, and if one 
considers this place serious business aimed at a better world, then all of that 
sentiment is for naught. Perhaps if it helps us see a bit deeper into our 
folly, it might have a bit of a positive ring to it.
 

 As the character of Captain Louis Renault in the movie Casablanca says...
 

 Renault: Everybody is to leave here immediately! This café is closed until 
further notice. Clear the room, at once!
 Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?
 Renault: I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
 Croupier: [hands Renault money] Your winnings, sir.
 Renault (quietly): Oh, thank you very much. (louder) Everybody out at once!
 

 This is the ethics of this place.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Let's not get confused here. It's much more closely related to a post made by 
Doug (not Buck) on May 25, 2015, about the biker fight at the Twin Peaks 
restaurant in Waco, Texas. 

 We know you're doing your best to exonerate Turqb. That tells us a lot about 
who you are.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 All these posts are related to a March, 2014 post in which 'Buck' says to 'MJ' 
(the highlighted portion is the passage others fixated upon): 

 Spirituality, . ..stems from being initiated into TM
 MJ, you bet. More experience of the transcendent as the unified field is the 
basis of spiritual progress and transformation, call that cultivation a 
transcendent meditation however you want; transcending can go by different 
names culturally but it in large nature is all the same. These people were glad 
to have run in to TM as it was taught and started something for themselves 
then. Now, otherwise it is something else to wonder that you methodically 
dissuade your friends from meditating and rejoice in that. That you actively 
work to sink transcendental meditation and consciousness-based education.  That 
is incredibly anti-science and ultimately anti-spiritual. It is shocking and 
diabolical. I can empathize with Obama now. Were I President Obama securing the 
nation I'd have you straight-away on the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, Hands up, Don't Shoot!.   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25. 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Here are the last few days by message number. Note that Doug is omitted 
 because he's sent to another message box as well as he who shall remain 
 nameless.
 
 
 416851: PostCount [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 15-Jun-15 00:15:08 
 UTC -- 2015/6/15
 416852: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416858: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416859: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 15-Jun-15 
 00:15:08 UTC -- 2015/6/15
 416860: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416861: salyavin808 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416862: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Philae only playing possum -- 
 2015/6/15
 416863: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416864: salyavin808 Re: [FairfieldLife] Philae only playing possum -- 
 2015/6/15
 416865: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: An Honest Message from the 
 Republican Party -- 2015/6/15
 416866: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416867: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the Recent 
 Moderation Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416868: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416869: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416870: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] Journalism At Its Worst -- 2015/6/15
 416872: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] None Of That -- 2015/6/15
 416873: salyavin808 [FairfieldLife] Re: Journalism At Its Worst -- 
 2015/6/15
 416874: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416885: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416886: leedwilliam [FairfieldLife] Fwd: : EVOLUTION OF SWIMWEAR IN 
 FRANCE -- 2015/6/15
 416888: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] None Of That -- 2015/6/15
 416889: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416890: anartaxius Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416891: anartaxius [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416893: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416894: seventhray27 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416895: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416896: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416898: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416901: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416902: bhairitu [FairfieldLife] TM 1913 Style -- 2015/6/15
 416903: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416904: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416905: authfriend [FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416906: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416909: bhairitu Re: 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The posts in question were made on May 25. 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Here are the last few days by message number. Note that Doug is omitted 
 because he's sent to another message box as well as he who shall remain 
 nameless.
 
 
 416851: PostCount [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 15-Jun-15 00:15:08 
 UTC -- 2015/6/15
 416852: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416858: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416859: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 15-Jun-15 
 00:15:08 UTC -- 2015/6/15
 416860: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416861: salyavin808 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416862: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Philae only playing possum -- 
 2015/6/15
 416863: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416864: salyavin808 Re: [FairfieldLife] Philae only playing possum -- 
 2015/6/15
 416865: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: An Honest Message from the 
 Republican Party -- 2015/6/15
 416866: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416867: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the Recent 
 Moderation Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416868: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416869: jason_blue22 [FairfieldLife] Re: Dig deep for Asteroid Day.. 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416870: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] Journalism At Its Worst -- 2015/6/15
 416872: turquoiseb [FairfieldLife] None Of That -- 2015/6/15
 416873: salyavin808 [FairfieldLife] Re: Journalism At Its Worst -- 
 2015/6/15
 416874: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416885: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416886: leedwilliam [FairfieldLife] Fwd: : EVOLUTION OF SWIMWEAR IN 
 FRANCE -- 2015/6/15
 416888: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] None Of That -- 2015/6/15
 416889: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416890: anartaxius Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416891: anartaxius [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416893: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416894: seventhray27 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416895: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416896: Duveyoung [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry 
 -- 2015/6/15
 416898: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416901: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416902: bhairitu [FairfieldLife] TM 1913 Style -- 2015/6/15
 416903: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416904: mjackson74 Re: [FairfieldLife] A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation
 Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416905: authfriend [FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416906: seventhray27 [FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416909: bhairitu Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama backed trade bill 
 fails -- 2015/6/15
 416914: mjackson74 [FairfieldLife] Modi Ruffles Feathers -- 2015/6/15
 416915: anartaxius [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/15
 416916: mjackson74 [FairfieldLife] Best part of the Modi Interview -- 
 2015/6/15
 416917: anartaxius [FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the 
 Recent Moderation Is Really About -- 2015/6/15
 416918: curtisdeltablues Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion -- 2015/6/15
 416923: yifuxero [FairfieldLife] Battle Hymn of the Republic -- 2015/6/16
 416924: PostCount [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 16-Jun-15 00:15:05 
 UTC -- 2015/6/16
 416927: yifuxero [FairfieldLife] Handel's Messiah: For Unto Us a 
 Child is Born -- 2015/6/16
 416930: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416931: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416932: emichael108 [FairfieldLife] MORE AND MORE COUNTRIES BAN GMO  
 GLYPHOSATE -- 2015/6/16
 416935: turquoiseb Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416937: salyavin808 [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416938: seventhray27 Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416939: rick_archer [FairfieldLife] Rev. Michael Dowd: New Interview 
 on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/16/2015 -- 2015/6/16
 416940: anartaxius Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic 
 Psychiatry -- 2015/6/16
 416941: anartaxius [FairfieldLife] 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

May 25th then:

415475: PostCount [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 25-May-15 00:15:06 
UTC -- 2015/5/25

415477: jr_esq[FairfieldLife] Iraqi Forces Failed to Fight? -- 2015/5/25
415478: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Best review of Mad Max: 
Fury Road ever! -- 2015/5/25
415479: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Commencement -- 
2015/5/25
415480: sparaig[FairfieldLife] Re: How many people have ever lived 
on earth? -- 2015/5/25
415481: jr_esq[FairfieldLife] Information as the Basis of the Cosmos 
-- 2015/5/25
415484: mdixon.6569Re: [FairfieldLife] [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot 
outs... -- 2015/5/25
415485: mdixon.6569Re: [FairfieldLife] Iraqi Forces Failed to Fight? 
-- 2015/5/25
415486: salyavin808[FairfieldLife] Re: How many people have ever 
lived on earth? -- 2015/5/25
415489: turquoiseb[FairfieldLife] Doug Hamilton proposes murder on 
FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks

 shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415490: mjackson74Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Fraternity and Peace, 
the MUM

 Commencement. -- 2015/5/25
415492: salyavin808Re: [FairfieldLife] [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot 
outs... -- 2015/5/25
415493: salyavin808[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes murder 
on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415494: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was

 Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415495: mjackson74Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was

 Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415496: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415498: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415499: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415500: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415501: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was

 Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415504: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL (was Re: [FFFL's] Twin Peaks shoot outs) -- 2015/5/25
415507: anartaxius[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes murder 
on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415508: turquoisebRe: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415511: salyavin808[FairfieldLife] Space Brother's hideaway? -- 
2015/5/25
415513: turquoiseb[FairfieldLife] For those watching Game Of 
Thrones -- 2015/5/25
415515: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415516: seventhray27Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415518: emichael108[FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415519: mjackson74Re: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415520: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415521: turquoiseb[FairfieldLife] Why is Andy Borowitz the only 
reporter in America telling it like

 it is? -- 2015/5/25
415522: anartaxius[FairfieldLife] Re: Why is Andy Borowitz the only 
reporter in America telling it like it is? -- 2015/5/25
415523: anartaxius[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes murder 
on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415524: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Hamilton proposes 
murder on FFL -- 2015/5/25
415525: mdixon.6569Re: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415526: seventhray27[FairfieldLife] The Hypocrite, Barry Wright -- 
2015/5/25
415527: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415528: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Why is Andy Borowitz the only 
reporter in America

 telling it like it is? -- 2015/5/25
415529: mdixon.6569Re: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415530: mdixon.6569Re: [FairfieldLife] Why is Andy Borowitz the only 
reporter in

 America telling it like it is? -- 2015/5/25
415531: emichael108[FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation: News  
Events -- 2015/5/25
415532: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Why is Andy Borowitz the only 
reporter in America

 telling it like it is? -- 2015/5/25
415533: bhairituRe: [FairfieldLife] Evidence Shows Transcendental 
Meditation Has

 Real Health Benefits -- 2015/5/25
415534: sparaigRe: [FairfieldLife] Waging Fraternity and Peace, the 
MUM Commencement. -- 2015/5/25
415535: sparaig[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Brother's hideaway? -- 

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

2015-06-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure 
of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The 
first three are from 'steve.sundar', which are a reply to a post #415494 by 
'turquoiseb', and the content of #415494 is in all of the three, but the 
original #415494 is also intact on the group. Each of two following the first 
adds some more comments. The fourth missing post is #415501 by 'turquoiseb' 
which is an additional comment added to $415494. These comments were in 
response to post #415487 by 'dh...' which remains on FFL for the moment, and in 
which 'dh...' says: 

 'Well, one could certainly empathize with someone standing by monitoring and 
then in the middle of a firefight between a bunch of bikers. At a point it is 
just plain self-defense to shoot or be shot in the moment. Put yourself in the 
middle of a rough looking people all wearing vests who are shooting at each 
other with heavy caliber weapons. Once order is set in you betcha the cops 
shouted, Hands up, Don't Shoot!.   We could use some assertion of moderation 
around here too.'
 

 Post #415501 suggests that 'dh...' is prone to 'violent fantasies'.
 

 The deletion of material suggests 'dh...' found the material not to his/her 
liking, but it was incompletely deleted. On June 8 Rick announced he was 
thinking of appointing a moderator. I do not know what date the posts were 
deleted, nor who deleted them unless they speak up. Worse has been said earlier 
and subsequently, to me the deletions are just curious.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 The posts in question were made on May 25.