[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake Gurus and the Attack of the Asuras [Reavis]
Please Note, the Vanarahs of Monkeys are incarnations of Devas. Vali was the incarnation of indra the king of the Devas. Hanuman incarnation of Vayu and so on. Ravana got a boon fromShiva that no celestial could kill him. So the Devas incarnated themselves as Monkeys to assist Vishnu who incarnated as Rama. Note that these were not ordinary animals. They were intellectual and supernatural beings.Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:20:15 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fake Gurus and the Attack of the Asuras Another take on Westerners seeking Indian wisdom was expressed more than once by Nisargadatta in the following way. He said that theWesterners had been soldiers in Lord Rama's monkey army; and that astheir reward in assisting Rama in rescuing Sita they were reincarnatedin the West where they could easily indulge their monkey desires -- lots of food, sex, and fighting. He said, however, that when the monkeys begin to tire of their reward, they come back to India in search of Rama. Nisargadatta said on more than one occassion that he preferred tospeak with Westerners rather than with Indians because the Westernerswere more sincere. Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake Gurus and the Attack of the Asuras [Reavis]
Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:20:15 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fake Gurus and the Attack of the Asuras Nisargadatta said on more than one occassion that he preferred to speak with Westerners rather than with Indians because the Westerners were more sincere. If you ever come to India, to Bombay, there is a Samadhi were Nisargadattas Gurus Siddharamesh Ashes are kept. Also Nisargadatta was cremated there, but there is no Samadhi. There are also two Gurubais of N. there, one is Ranjit Maharaj. The place is beautiful, near the ocean. Go to 'Ban Ganga', ask for the Smashan (cremation ground), and have a nice meditation there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banganga_Tank Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake Gurus and the Attack of the Asuras [Reavis]
Perhaps so -- and if so, who knows how many different ways what you have said (below) could be reconciled with what Nisargadatta said or if that makes any difference; both ways of understanding the monkey (and bear) armies of the Ramayana speak to different ways of interpreting the narrative. The Puranas and Itihasa speak on so many different levels of analysis. I'd forgotten about the celestial nature of the different monkey players. Thank you. But isn't Hanuman the *son* of Vayu, rather than an incarnation of him? I'm under the belief that Hanuman is an incarnation of Shiva -- a part- incarnation. Again, I'm sure there's evidence of both in the literature. Thanks again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please Note, the Vanarahs of Monkeys are incarnations of Devas. Vali was the incarnation of indra the king of the Devas. Hanuman incarnation of Vayu and so on. Ravana got a boon from Shiva that no celestial could kill him. So the Devas incarnated themselves as Monkeys to assist Vishnu who incarnated as Rama. Note that these were not ordinary animals. They were intellectual and supernatural beings. Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:20:15 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fake Gurus and the Attack of the Asuras Another take on Westerners seeking Indian wisdom was expressed more than once by Nisargadatta in the following way. He said that the Westerners had been soldiers in Lord Rama's monkey army; and that as their reward in assisting Rama in rescuing Sita they were reincarnated in the West where they could easily indulge their monkey desires -- lots of food, sex, and fighting. He said, however, that when the monkeys begin to tire of their reward, they come back to India in search of Rama. Nisargadatta said on more than one occassion that he preferred to speak with Westerners rather than with Indians because the Westerners were more sincere. - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fake Gurus and the Attack of the Asuras [Reavis]
Thank you very much for the suggestion. I have the deepest respect (and affection) for Nisargadatta and consider him one the big influences in my life, perhaps second in my heart only to Maharishi and Guru Dev. Coming upon him (here, of course, on FFL) only a few years after I had re-begun meditation and puja after a lengthy hiatus I was overwhelmed with gratitude for his simple elucidation of atma-vichara. It's put everything I ever learned from Maharishi into play. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:20:15 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fake Gurus and the Attack of the Asuras Nisargadatta said on more than one occassion that he preferred to speak with Westerners rather than with Indians because the Westerners were more sincere. If you ever come to India, to Bombay, there is a Samadhi were Nisargadattas Gurus Siddharamesh Ashes are kept. Also Nisargadatta was cremated there, but there is no Samadhi. There are also two Gurubais of N. there, one is Ranjit Maharaj. The place is beautiful, near the ocean. Go to 'Ban Ganga', ask for the Smashan (cremation ground), and have a nice meditation there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banganga_Tank Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
