[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ 
wrote:
 
   
   At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that they 
intended 
   to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around the 
world, at 
   several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell Bevan 
et al 
   how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many cities do 
not have 
   TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are 
drastically 
   underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are plaques 
on the 
   sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but these are 
really 
   Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned TM 
from a monk 
   in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to that. 
Building 
   these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't matter 
what the 
   ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is going to 
create 
   this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not enough 
   hillbillies in the world to stop it.
   
   http://tinyurl.com/28rojh
  
  It's not hillbillies who think it's stupid, it's anyone in touch 
with
  reality.
  
 I am laughing myself to death . This is the effect of laughter 
like this, the me is gone in 
 the middle of it. I lost it when I read this one line response
 
 Hridaya

I'm happy that you found reality with a guru that suggest reading 
material and meetings for the enlightened to stay enlightened 
Ron. Now that's real enlightenment, right ?   ;-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ 
 wrote:
  

At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that 
they 
 intended 
to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around 
the 
 world, at 
several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell 
Bevan 
 et al 
how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many cities do 
 not have 
TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are 
 drastically 
underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are 
plaques 
 on the 
sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but these 
are 
 really 
Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned TM 
 from a monk 
in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to 
that. 
 Building 
these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't 
matter 
 what the 
ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is going to 
 create 
this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not 
enough 
hillbillies in the world to stop it.

http://tinyurl.com/28rojh
   
   It's not hillbillies who think it's stupid, it's anyone in 
touch 
 with
   reality.
   
  I am laughing myself to death . This is the effect of laughter 
 like this, the me is gone in 
  the middle of it. I lost it when I read this one line response
  
  Hridaya
 
 I'm happy that you found reality with a guru that suggest reading 
 material and meetings for the enlightened to stay enlightened 
 Ron. Now that's real enlightenment, right ?   ;-)

ouch!:-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ 
  wrote:
   
 
 At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that 
 they 
  intended 
 to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around 
 the 
  world, at 
 several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell 
 Bevan 
  et al 
 how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many cities do 
  not have 
 TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are 
  drastically 
 underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are 
 plaques 
  on the 
 sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but these 
 are 
  really 
 Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned TM 
  from a monk 
 in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to 
 that. 
  Building 
 these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't 
 matter 
  what the 
 ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is going to 
  create 
 this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not 
 enough 
 hillbillies in the world to stop it.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/28rojh

It's not hillbillies who think it's stupid, it's anyone in 
 touch 
  with
reality.

   I am laughing myself to death . This is the effect of laughter 
  like this, the me is gone in 
   the middle of it. I lost it when I read this one line response
   
   Hridaya
  
  I'm happy that you found reality with a guru that suggest reading 
  material and meetings for the enlightened to stay enlightened 
  Ron. Now that's real enlightenment, right ?   ;-)
 
 ouch!:-)

The ouch would be questioning the methodology of a guru that has brought 5 to 
enlightenment since 1999. Nityananda, Guru to Muktananda sadly left his body 
early 
declaring that there were none ( and Muktananda is one of his disciples), and 
this was not 
long ago.

Even in this case, it was probably not an ouch as the methodology was 
reasonable. The 
real ouch is where there are none enlightened after a long presence - then in 
looking at 
the methodology, it may be quite obvious why this has happened. There are wild 
things 
taking place with Gurus these days.

Hridaya



[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There are wild things 
 taking place with Gurus these days.

The claim from your guru to have brought 5 into enlightenment probably 
is the wildest of them all. I don't buy it and I seriously don't 
believe anyone else on this forum does.

 
 Hridaya





[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote:
 
 There are wild things 
  taking place with Gurus these days.
 
 The claim from your guru to have brought 5 into enlightenment probably 
 is the wildest of them all. I don't buy it and I seriously don't 
 believe anyone else on this forum does.
 
  
  Hridaya
 

Well lemme think, what would be the purpose in knowing or believeing that my 
Guru has 
brought 5 to enlightenment since 1999. For those interested in a Guru who may 
be 
available to work with, it would be most useful I would guess. For those 
questioning what 
is taking place in their own path, again there may be some usefullness 
depending on what 
is going on in their path.

But in anycase, I don't really care how others think.

Hridaya 



[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote:
  
  There are wild things 
   taking place with Gurus these days.
  
  The claim from your guru to have brought 5 into enlightenment 
probably 
  is the wildest of them all. I don't buy it and I seriously don't 
  believe anyone else on this forum does.
  
   
   Hridaya
  
 
 Well lemme think, what would be the purpose in knowing or 
believeing that my Guru has 
 brought 5 to enlightenment since 1999. For those interested in a 
Guru who may be 
 available to work with, it would be most useful I would guess.

Of course, if it was true. But since it is just a contradicting 
story from you it has 0, zero, nada value whatsoever.



[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread andrasayer
What is the source of Nityananda saying that none of his diciples 
were enlightened?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives 
boo_lives@ 
   wrote:

  
  At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that 
  they 
   intended 
  to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility 
around 
  the 
   world, at 
  several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell 
  Bevan 
   et al 
  how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many 
cities do 
   not have 
  TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are 
   drastically 
  underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are 
  plaques 
   on the 
  sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but 
these 
  are 
   really 
  Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned 
TM 
   from a monk 
  in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to 
  that. 
   Building 
  these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't 
  matter 
   what the 
  ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is 
going to 
   create 
  this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not 
  enough 
  hillbillies in the world to stop it.
  
  http://tinyurl.com/28rojh
 
 It's not hillbillies who think it's stupid, it's anyone in 
  touch 
   with
 reality.
 
I am laughing myself to death . This is the effect of 
laughter 
   like this, the me is gone in 
the middle of it. I lost it when I read this one line 
response

Hridaya
   
   I'm happy that you found reality with a guru that suggest 
reading 
   material and meetings for the enlightened to 
stay enlightened 
   Ron. Now that's real enlightenment, right ?   ;-)
  
  ouch!:-)
 
 The ouch would be questioning the methodology of a guru that has 
brought 5 to 
 enlightenment since 1999. Nityananda, Guru to Muktananda sadly 
left his body early 
 declaring that there were none ( and Muktananda is one of his 
disciples), and this was not 
 long ago.
 
 Even in this case, it was probably not an ouch as the methodology 
was reasonable. The 
 real ouch is where there are none enlightened after a long 
presence - then in looking at 
 the methodology, it may be quite obvious why this has happened. 
There are wild things 
 taking place with Gurus these days.
 
 Hridaya





[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, andrasayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is the source of Nityananda saying that none of his diciples 
 were enlightened?

My Guru knows someone that was there at the time of his passing. He had said 
not one came 
that was there for a bigger Me. My guru said they didn;t find anything wrong 
with the form. 

Just as there was a writting claiming Gurudev apointed MMY to go out to the 
world ( read this 
in this forum) which contradicted what I heard MMY say about how the movement 
got 
started, so there also is some writtings floating around where Nityananda is 
supposedly 
recognizing muktananda as the guru to go out to the world.

My quote is going to run out so either email me directly if you have something 
further to say 
or i will start an overflow post yahoo group for ffl

Hridaya



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread Rick Archer
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On Behalf Of Ron
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of a

 

My quote is going to run out so either email me directly if you have
something further to say 
or i will start an overflow post yahoo group for ffl

You’re up to 29, so you’ve got 6 left.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-03 Thread Marek Reavis
Some of the comments below the article are very funny and give a good 
snapshot of the general public's reaction to the TMO's style and its 
offerings.  

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://dcist.com/2007/10/02/major_developme.php





[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-03 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Some of the comments below the article are very funny and give a good 
 snapshot of the general public's reaction to the TMO's style and its 
 offerings.  
 
 **
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  http://dcist.com/2007/10/02/major_developme.php
 



**


At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that they intended 
to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around the world, at 
several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell Bevan et al 
how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many cities do not have 
TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are drastically 
underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are plaques on the 
sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but these are really 
Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned TM from a monk 
in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to that. Building 
these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't matter what the 
ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is going to create 
this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not enough 
hillbillies in the world to stop it.

http://tinyurl.com/28rojh



[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-03 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 
 At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that they 
intended 
 to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around the 
world, at 
 several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell Bevan et 
al 
 how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many cities do not 
have 
 TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are drastically 
 underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are plaques on 
the 
 sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but these are 
really 
 Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned TM from a 
monk 
 in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to that. 
Building 
 these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't matter what 
the 
 ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is going to 
create 
 this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not enough 
 hillbillies in the world to stop it.

Hehe :-) But don't tell Vaj and Rick Archer !
 
 http://tinyurl.com/28rojh





[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-03 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that they intended 
  to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around the world, at 
  several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell Bevan et al 
  how wonderful they are, and seem foolish when many cities do not have 
  TM centers and MUM and the M. Central University are drastically 
  underfunded. That's certainly part of it, as there are plaques on the 
  sides of the towers saluting TM administrators, but these are really 
  Shiva lingams, and as a wearer of rudraksha who learned TM from a monk 
  in the Shankara (Shiva) tradition, I can't be opposed to that. Building 
  these towers/lingams creates auspiciousness -- doesn't matter what the 
  ignorant public thinks one way or the other. MMY is going to create 
  this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not enough 
  hillbillies in the world to stop it.
  
  http://tinyurl.com/28rojh
 
 It's not hillbillies who think it's stupid, it's anyone in touch with
 reality.
 
I am laughing myself to death . This is the effect of laughter like this, the 
me is gone in 
the middle of it. I lost it when I read this one line response

Hridaya



[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 MMY is going to create 
  this influence of Vedic civilization, and there are not enough 
  hillbillies in the world to stop it.
  
  http://tinyurl.com/28rojh
 
 It's not hillbillies who think it's stupid, it's anyone in touch 
with
 reality.
 
 You can give them a spiritual sounding name like lingam, but all 
this
 is is delusional men wearing gold crowns in charge of an ego-
stroking,
 chauvinistic organization wanting to build big dicks to compensate 
for
 a variety of unresolved emotional-sexual issues.

Could be. On the other hand I kinda like it, just because it is so 
different, like another chapter in a book I don't know the end to 
yet. I am not attached to any result which might occur, if any. Like 
I say, its just different, maybe like when Disneyland opened in the 
late '50's.:-)