[FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Ebert on the film that caused four murders
Apparently Obama is running scared, afraid of the radicals over there - maybe Obama wants to arrest the film-maker. Go figure. Hillary opposed the jailing of Pussy Riot over in Russia - why not support American film-makers? Bhairitu: You sound really intelligent, Willy. Why don't you run for office? :-D Maybe so. If I was in charge I wouldn't be sending out apologies in a riot - I'd send out warnings to all the other embassies to take cover. And, I wouldn't blame some poor film-maker for the lapse in security. And, I wouldn't send out the U.N. Ambassador to go on TV and lie like that about the pre-planned attack on the embassy in Libya. U.S. intelligence agencies and the State Department did not issue warnings to diplomats after an anti-Islamic video, made in the United States, was broadcast on an Arab talk show, which may have been the flashpoint for the unrest in Egypt, Libya and elsewhere. http://tinyurl.com/9u22gr3 Federal investigators questioned but later released one of the filmmakers behind the incendiary anti-Islam video that sparked violent clashes across the Middle East... Read more: New York Daily News, Monday, September 17, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/8r6ajzd
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Ebert on the film that caused four murders
authfriend: We all know this statement was made *before* the attacks on the embassy, right? It wasn't a *response* to the attacks. Apparently the statement was sent out in response to the film trailer, not the later attack. The Islamists are going to have to get used to the fact that we have freedom of speech over here and it's not going to change anytime soon. What's needed are more films like this - films that get you to think about what you believe and to question religious dogmas. It's difficult to tell what's going on when the U.S. Embassy in Cairo is deleting tweets and the U.S. State Department is sending out liars on TV. But, apparently the tweet from the Cairo Embassy was sent out at 5:53 a.m., 9/11/12, before the riot began. From what I've read, there was no riot or protest in Benghazi, Libya before the attack that killed the U.S. Ambassador. 'Here's a Timeline of the Confusing Statements on Libya and Egypt' http://tinyurl.com/9ob29x2 The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Seraphita: Rather than pandering to intolerant thugs shouldn't we be making it clear that western societies value their traditions of free speech, which not only have they no intention of relinquishing but would hope one day to see all citizens in Muslim countries enjoy? Apparently Obama is running scared, afraid of the radicals over there - maybe Obama wants to arrest the film-maker. Go figure. Hillary opposed the jailing of Pussy Riot over in Russia - why not support American film-makers? Is anyone in charge anymore? The tweet came from a VERIFIED account. The Cairo Embassy did tweet it. They basically slammed freedom of speech and caved. Our Soldiers have died protecting our freedoms. Stating no one approved the msg is admitting no one is in control, no one is leading, and we have a vacuum to fill. - Julie Anne Dostal 'Obama administration disavows Cairo 'apology' http://tinyurl.com/9spumjk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Ebert on the film that caused four murders
turquoiseb: I would go so far as to suggest those who made the trailer hoped to hurt their feelings. CAIRO Following a blunt phone call from President Obama, Egyptian leaders scrambled Thursday to try to repair the country's alliance with Washington, tacitly acknowledging that they erred in their response to the attack on the United States Embassy by seeking to first appease anti-American domestic opinion without offering a robust condemnation of the violence. New York Times, September 14, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/8eanygh
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Ebert on the film that caused four murders
The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. H. So do US diplomatic staff condemn offensive attacks against, say, Scientologists ? We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others. Dawkins, Dennett, Sam Harris and Hitchens have happily used (not abused) their right of free speech to lampoon the religious beliefs of others! Rather than pandering to intolerant thugs shouldn't we be making it clear that western societies value their traditions of free speech, which not only have they no intention of relinquishing but would hope one day to see all citizens in Muslim countries enjoy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Ebert on the film that caused four murders
The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Seraphita: Rather than pandering to intolerant thugs shouldn't we be making it clear that western societies value their traditions of free speech, which not only have they no intention of relinquishing but would hope one day to see all citizens in Muslim countries enjoy? Apparently Obama is running scared, afraid of the radicals over there - maybe Obama wants to arrest the film-maker. Go figure. Hillary opposed the jailing of Pussy Riot over in Russia - why not support American film-makers? Is anyone in charge anymore? The tweet came from a VERIFIED account. The Cairo Embassy did tweet it. They basically slammed freedom of speech and caved. Our Soldiers have died protecting our freedoms. Stating no one approved the msg is admitting no one is in control, no one is leading, and we have a vacuum to fill. - Julie Anne Dostal 'Obama administration disavows Cairo 'apology' http://tinyurl.com/9spumjk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Ebert on the film that caused four murders
On 09/16/2012 07:39 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Seraphita: Rather than pandering to intolerant thugs shouldn't we be making it clear that western societies value their traditions of free speech, which not only have they no intention of relinquishing but would hope one day to see all citizens in Muslim countries enjoy? Apparently Obama is running scared, afraid of the radicals over there - maybe Obama wants to arrest the film-maker. Go figure. Hillary opposed the jailing of Pussy Riot over in Russia - why not support American film-makers? Is anyone in charge anymore? The tweet came from a VERIFIED account. The Cairo Embassy did tweet it. They basically slammed freedom of speech and caved. Our Soldiers have died protecting our freedoms. Stating no one approved the msg is admitting no one is in control, no one is leading, and we have a vacuum to fill. - Julie Anne Dostal 'Obama administration disavows Cairo 'apology' http://tinyurl.com/9spumjk You sound really intelligent, Willy. Why don't you run for office? :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Ebert on the film that caused four murders
We all know this statement was made *before* the attacks on the embassy, right? It wasn't a *response* to the attacks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Seraphita: Rather than pandering to intolerant thugs shouldn't we be making it clear that western societies value their traditions of free speech, which not only have they no intention of relinquishing but would hope one day to see all citizens in Muslim countries enjoy? Apparently Obama is running scared, afraid of the radicals over there - maybe Obama wants to arrest the film-maker. Go figure. Hillary opposed the jailing of Pussy Riot over in Russia - why not support American film-makers? Is anyone in charge anymore? The tweet came from a VERIFIED account. The Cairo Embassy did tweet it. They basically slammed freedom of speech and caved. Our Soldiers have died protecting our freedoms. Stating no one approved the msg is admitting no one is in control, no one is leading, and we have a vacuum to fill. - Julie Anne Dostal 'Obama administration disavows Cairo 'apology' http://tinyurl.com/9spumjk
