[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
The world and its smallmindedness never ceases to amaze me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have spent time off and on in New Orleans, starting over 35 years ago, when I lived and worked in the French Quarter for a few months. I detect that there is an embodiment of evil in New Orleans, ever since my first visit. Voodo, Santaria evil. Evil deeds piled up upon evil deads for centuries. The entire area has always given me the creeps. I believe Rudra Joe is one of those who willingly but not knowingly embodies these evils. I am saddened by the loss of property and the loss of human life. I am saddened by the suffering. But I am heartened by the levies not holding and the pumps failing. If only another hurricane would hit the New Orleans area while it's devastated, it would be an attempt to purge the evil of the New Orleans area which holds the moral and spiritual nature of One Nation Under God down. Tue French Quarter must be completely destroyed by the forces of Nature if this nation is to survive. The surrounding areas must also be destroyed. Of course we can see the violation of the Laws of Nature in the very building of the levies. If there were not those levies, the Mississippi would sustain vital wetlands which would help, not exacerbate the current situation. How interesting that what the hurricane did not destroy breaks in levies are taking care of. Ruda Joe, you really think it's cute for two girls to expose their tits to you and yours at your restaurant and rub them against the window where you worked, do you? As yet rip, so shall yee sew. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy, talk about embodying evil... Amen. Does one who takes righteous glee in scapegoating and in final solutions really benefit from yagyas, and if so, how? My thoughts exactly. What a commercial for the supposed benefits of yagyas. There are possibly more highly evolved and compassionate mass murderers. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
You sound like you'd probably take great delight from seeing anyone suffer who doesn't firmly hold your beliefs. Gosh - sounds an awful like Osama bin Laden, or like the Spanish Inquisitors. Don't you see where you're going? You set yourself up as judge, jury and executioner, and... Damn... What a surprise. Everyone else needs to be killed. Better yet, they need to suffer appropriately before they are destroyed. Even those who had nothing to do with whatever it is you might disagree with. They're guilty too because they must have contributed subconsciously to all this sin? You must be a real fun guy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have spent time off and on in New Orleans, starting over 35 years ago, when I lived and worked in the French Quarter for a few months. I detect that there is an embodiment of evil in New Orleans, ever since my first visit. Voodo, Santaria evil. Evil deeds piled up upon evil deads for centuries. The entire area has always given me the creeps. I believe Rudra Joe is one of those who willingly but not knowingly embodies these evils. I am saddened by the loss of property and the loss of human life. I am saddened by the suffering. But I am heartened by the levies not holding and the pumps failing. If only another hurricane would hit the New Orleans area while it's devastated, it would be an attempt to purge the evil of the New Orleans area which holds the moral and spiritual nature of One Nation Under God down. Tue French Quarter must be completely destroyed by the forces of Nature if this nation is to survive. The surrounding areas must also be destroyed. Of course we can see the violation of the Laws of Nature in the very building of the levies. If there were not those levies, the Mississippi would sustain vital wetlands which would help, not exacerbate the current situation. How interesting that what the hurricane did not destroy breaks in levies are taking care of. Ruda Joe, you really think it's cute for two girls to expose their tits to you and yours at your restaurant and rub them against the window where you worked, do you? As yet rip, so shall yee sew. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. With all due respect, what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast happens every fucking day on this planet and it bothers the hell out of us every fucking day. It's just that some of us don't posture as com- passionate and caring only when it happens at home. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Judy, the horror that's happening on the Gulf Coast is EVERYWHERE...turn on the TV and radio and there it is. Perhaps people come on this forum to take a break from it... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Judy, the horror that's happening on the Gulf Coast is EVERYWHERE...turn on the TV and radio and there it is. Assuming, sadly, that the death toll from Katrina reaches 2000, that number of people die tragically every 8.33 *hours* in Africa from poverty. I haven't exactly seen Judy trying to get us to focus on that. Perhaps people come on this forum to take a break from it... And possibly they just want to talk about what they want to talk about, and not what she wants them to talk about. It's a failing, I know, and we're working on it, but we're only human... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Ruda Joe, you really think it's cute for two girls to expose their tits to you and yours at your restaurant and rub them against the window where you worked, do you? As yet rip, so shall yee sew. I find girl's tits to be very attractive and the flashing of said winnebagos to be an expression of humorous sexuality that is healthy for all. Who cares, they're tits! Give me some beads! The bondage does not lie in the tits, but in the mental judgment that it is wrong to display said mammaries. As a long time member of FFL, I have seen the emergence this energy in Tom before. In my opinion, he is doing what he has done a couple of times before in this group - spinning out of control. I don't think it is suprising that natural disasters/disorder close to home brings out excitation/disorder within the pscyhes of (some) individuals. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sound like you'd probably take great delight from seeing anyone suffer who doesn't firmly hold your beliefs. Gosh - sounds an awful like Osama bin Laden, or like the Spanish Inquisitors. Don't you see where you're going? You set yourself up as judge, jury and executioner, and... Damn... What a surprise. Everyone else needs to be killed. Better yet, they need to suffer appropriately before they are destroyed. Even those who had nothing to do with whatever it is you might disagree with. They're guilty too because they must have contributed subconsciously to all this sin? It's a common condition. The Left Behind series of books has sold over 65 million copies. In it all the non-TB christians who weren't taken up to heaven during the rapture are destroyed. God isn't just sitting up there watching it all either, but sends Jesus down on a white horse to lead the slaughter. TB christians find the thought of billions of people who believe differently being murdered by God spiritually inspiring. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
On 8/31/05 3:09 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Since this is not a disaster list, should it be surprising that that's not a major topic here? In fact some of us are intimately involved in the situation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/31/05 3:09 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Since this is not a disaster list, should it be surprising that that's not a major topic here? Oh, please. Anything that catches our fancy becomes a major topic here. Tom's diatribe *against* New Orleans drew a lot of comments. In fact some of us are intimately involved in the situation. In what ways? (Genuinely interested.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- markmeredith wrote: TB christians find the thought of billions of people who believe differently being murdered by God spiritually inspiring. Makes me want to get one of those Betty Bowers bumper stickers that says, Flatter Jesus or he'll torture you in hell. http://www.cafepress.com/bettybowers.4400430 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Judy, the horror that's happening on the Gulf Coast is EVERYWHERE...turn on the TV and radio and there it is. Perhaps people come on this forum to take a break from it... I participate in several other forums that entertain a wide range of topics, and it's become a major subject of conversation there, including many requests for information about how to help. Here's what the president of the American Red Cross said last night on MSNBC: ...We need three different things. We need financial contributions. They will be essential, and with the new level of damage that we've appreciated today, particularly in the New Orleans area, money, financial donations, will be key to our ability to respond. But we also need people to donate blood. As you can imagine, with the widespread damage, donations, regular donors have been unable to make their appointments. We're asking people in other parts of the country to make a lifesaving donation of blood. And the third thing that we need, we need people to volunteer. Our Red Cross chapters across the country have been mobilized. They're all engaged in activities directly supporting this effort or contributing to it. And so whether you live in Maine or California, your Red Cross chapter can put you to work and help make a difference. http://www.redcross.org Here's more organizations that need funds, from the SF Chronicle: Salvation Army: Donations can be made via the group's Web site, www.salvationarmyusa.org; by calling (800) 725-2769; or by mail at Salvation Army, Attention: Hurricane Katrina Fund, P.O. Box 193465, San Francisco, CA 94119- 3465. The organization expects to serve 400,000 meals a day to victims and first responders. Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348. America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070. Adventist Community Services: (800) 381-7171. Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or http://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818. Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at http://www.churchworldservice.org Convoy of Hope: (417) 823-8998 or http://www.convoyofhope.org Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522. Mennonite Disaster Service: (717) 859-2210. Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886. Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283. United Methodist Committee on Relief: (800) 554-8583. In addition, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, http://www.walmart.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
On 8/31/05 8:55 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/31/05 3:09 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Since this is not a disaster list, should it be surprising that that's not a major topic here? Oh, please. Anything that catches our fancy becomes a major topic here. Tom's diatribe *against* New Orleans drew a lot of comments. In fact some of us are intimately involved in the situation. In what ways? (Genuinely interested.) American Red Cross Disaster team--usually my wife gets to go; she's an expert in emotional and psychological trauma suffered by children, so in disasters she tends to be the one in demand. They began moving people in through Houston last weekend. Plus we have a friend trapped in the old French Quarter. The FQ was largely unscathed and since it set high, it will be one of the last places to flood. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. With all due respect, what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast happens every fucking day on this planet and it bothers the hell out of us every fucking day. It's just that some of us don't posture as com- passionate and caring only when it happens at home. Three points: First, I wouldn't talk about posturing if I were you, considering your own compulsive posturing about the Terrible TMO. Second, the Katrina disaster is something we can help out with on an immediate basis. Third, I checked the archive here from after the tsunami, and nobody seemed to be terribly concerned about it either; there was some discussion, but most of it appeared to be criticism of the TMO for not doing anything to help. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
When the Mississippi flooded in 1993, some of us in St. Louis wondered if it was God's way of saying He didn't approve of riverboat gambling. Really! I guess it's always tempting to ascribe some human actions as responsible for nature's retributions, be they floods, tsunamis, earthquakes or what have you. Maharishi tapped into that belief when he promised better weather in exchange for doing TM and hosting gandharva ved concerts. When I was looking at the New York Times' maps of the damage this morning, I wondered if there was a connection between this storm and global warming, not just in its cause but in its course. It was as if the hurricane tried to take out the oil production that contributes to a changed climate. As for the voodoo, I worked with a woman from New Orleans who used to laugh about it and think it was cute. I at the time was working with an ooga-booga consultant who dealt with cleansing clients of just such hexes. I was shocked that my friend could be so passé about something so dark. But then it occurred to me that, for my friend, voodoo wasn't dark. It was familiar. She was comfortable around it, the way demolition experts are comfortable around explosives. When I first studied SCI, I was delighted by the notion that human beings are necessary for creative intelligence to know itself. But that philosophy has a corrolary notion -- that human beings acting in the absence of natural law invite death and destruction on themselves. I can entertain these speculations about the connection between man and nature, but your last remark, Tom, that women exposing their breasts invite destruction, seems utterly Talibanesque. Lots of people like to think that sexual freedom is a sign of a decayed culture. But I suspect it's the opposite. Sexual freedom is just another expression of freedom, which is a good thing. It mirrors the spirit in the material world. But sexual freedom gets attacked by the Troglodytes who justify their violence with the decadence argument. Think Hitler and the Taliban. It's not give me liberty *or* give me death with these people. It's give me liberty *and* give me death. - Patrick Gillam --- Tom Pall wrote: I detect that there is an embodiment of evil in New Orleans, ever since my first visit. Voodo, Santaria evil. Evil deeds piled up upon evil deads for centuries. The entire area has always given me the creeps. Of course we can see the violation of the Laws of Nature in the very building of the levies. If there were not those levies, the Mississippi would sustain vital wetlands which would help, not exacerbate the current situation. How interesting that what the hurricane did not destroy breaks in levies are taking care of. Ruda Joe, you really think it's cute for two girls to expose their tits to you and yours at your restaurant and rub them against the window where you worked, do you? As yet rip, so shall yee sew. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/31/05 8:55 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/31/05 3:09 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Since this is not a disaster list, should it be surprising that that's not a major topic here? Oh, please. Anything that catches our fancy becomes a major topic here. Tom's diatribe *against* New Orleans drew a lot of comments. In fact some of us are intimately involved in the situation. In what ways? (Genuinely interested.) American Red Cross Disaster team--usually my wife gets to go; she's an expert in emotional and psychological trauma suffered by children, so in disasters she tends to be the one in demand. They began moving people in through Houston last weekend. Oh, man, she has my admiration. Plus we have a friend trapped in the old French Quarter. The FQ was largely unscathed and since it set high, it will be one of the last places to flood. Does your friend have access to food and water? Can you communicate with him/her? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Judy, the horror that's happening on the Gulf Coast is EVERYWHERE...turn on the TV and radio and there it is. Assuming, sadly, that the death toll from Katrina reaches 2000, that number of people die tragically every 8.33 *hours* in Africa from poverty. I haven't exactly seen Judy trying to get us to focus on that. The most effective way for U.S. citizens to improve the situation in Africa is to focus on getting rid of the current administration and installing one that can provide some actual leadership. (That's also the most effective way for us to get measures implemented that can mitigate the effects of future natural disasters here, and for that matter to do something to prevent them, i.e., by stopping global warming--if it can be stopped at this point.) The Katrina disaster is something we can provide very concrete help with *now*. And it isn't just a matter of the death toll, of course, but of the ongoing suffering of several million people. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
On 8/31/05 9:39 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, man, she has my admiration. And mine as well ;-)...apparently the Red Cross too, she received the Clara Barton award for her work at the 9/11 disaster. Plus we have a friend trapped in the old French Quarter. The FQ was largely unscathed and since it set high, it will be one of the last places to flood. Does your friend have access to food and water? Can you communicate with him/her? Yes we have a system set up to relay messages. He has a couple of weeks food and water. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/31/05 9:39 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, man, she has my admiration. And mine as well ;-)...apparently the Red Cross too, she received the Clara Barton award for her work at the 9/11 disaster. Plus we have a friend trapped in the old French Quarter. The FQ was largely unscathed and since it set high, it will be one of the last places to flood. Does your friend have access to food and water? Can you communicate with him/her? Yes we have a system set up to relay messages. He has a couple of weeks food and water. They're about to begin mass evacuation of everyone who's left, via buses. Will he evacuate? Does he have a battery-powered radio to find out what's going on? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy, talk about embodying evil... Amen. Does one who takes righteous glee in scapegoating and in final solutions really benefit from yagyas, and if so, how? My thoughts exactly. What a commercial for the supposed benefits of yagyas. There are possibly more highly evolved and compassionate mass murderers. Oh please. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Yeah, right. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. With all due respect, what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast happens every fucking day on this planet and it bothers the hell out of us every fucking day. It's just that some of us don't posture as com- passionate and caring only when it happens at home. Why not? It's easier to be concerned about people who are in your in group than who aren't. The World is my family may be an enlightened perspective, but criticizing people for being more able to perceive my country is my family because its not 100% enlightened ignores the fact that at least its a start. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Judy, the horror that's happening on the Gulf Coast is EVERYWHERE...turn on the TV and radio and there it is. Assuming, sadly, that the death toll from Katrina reaches 2000, that number of people die tragically every 8.33 *hours* in Africa from poverty. I haven't exactly seen Judy trying to get us to focus on that. Most people find it easier to focus on people who are closer to them in some way, be it geographically, politically, religiously, socially, whatever. In the case of New Orleans, not only is this issue important, but given how important the region is to our economy, the near- destruction of that area impacts how much and how well the US can support the rest of the world economically and socially. Perhaps people come on this forum to take a break from it... And possibly they just want to talk about what they want to talk about, and not what she wants them to talk about. It's a failing, I know, and we're working on it, but we're only human... Something to be said for our reactions to everyone's posts, not just Judy's... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Ruda Joe, you really think it's cute for two girls to expose their tits to you and yours at your restaurant and rub them against the window where you worked, do you? As yet rip, so shall yee sew. I find girl's tits to be very attractive and the flashing of said winnebagos to be an expression of humorous sexuality that is healthy for all. Who cares, they're tits! Give me some beads! The bondage does not lie in the tits, but in the mental judgment that it is wrong to display said mammaries. As a long time member of FFL, I have seen the emergence this energy in Tom before. In my opinion, he is doing what he has done a couple of times before in this group - spinning out of control. I don't think it is suprising that natural disasters/disorder close to home brings out excitation/disorder within the pscyhes of (some) individuals. I would say it has that affect on *everyone*, no matter who they are. Some are more noticeable than others in their reactions than others, of course. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [...] It's a common condition. The Left Behind series of books has sold over 65 million copies. In it all the non-TB christians who weren't taken up to heaven during the rapture are destroyed. God isn't just sitting up there watching it all either, but sends Jesus down on a white horse to lead the slaughter. TB christians find the thought of billions of people who believe differently being murdered by God spiritually inspiring. A certain group do. How many Left Behind books are there in the series? My guess is that if you care enough to purchase one, you buy them all, and possibly send copies to your friends (and enemies) so divide appropriately. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
On 8/31/05 10:39 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're about to begin mass evacuation of everyone who's left, via buses. Will he evacuate? Does he have a battery-powered radio to find out what's going on? He might, he still hadn't decided last we heard. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming, sadly, that the death toll from Katrina reaches 2000, that number of people die tragically every 8.33 *hours* in Africa from poverty. I haven't exactly seen Judy trying to get us to focus on that. Most people find it easier to focus on people who are closer to them in some way, be it geographically, politically, religiously, socially, whatever. In the case of New Orleans, not only is this issue important, but given how important the region is to our economy... Your economy. ...the near- destruction of that area impacts how much and how well the US can support the rest of the world economically and socially. Wake up. The United States of America has to borrow two billion dollars a day to stay afloat. I'd say that the world was supporting them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
Keep in mind that Tom's background is a childhood filled with violent abuse in the extreme. That background doesn't justify his repulsive commentary, but it does explain its source. Tom's harsh words should inspire as much compassion as anger. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have spent time off and on in New Orleans, starting over 35 years ago, when I lived and worked in the French Quarter for a few months. I detect that there is an embodiment of evil in New Orleans, ever since my first visit. Voodo, Santaria evil. Evil deeds piled up upon evil deads for centuries. The entire area has always given me the creeps. I believe Rudra Joe is one of those who willingly but not knowingly embodies these evils. I am saddened by the loss of property and the loss of human life. I am saddened by the suffering. But I am heartened by the levies not holding and the pumps failing. If only another hurricane would hit the New Orleans area while it's devastated, it would be an attempt to purge the evil of the New Orleans area which holds the moral and spiritual nature of One Nation Under God down. Tue French Quarter must be completely destroyed by the forces of Nature if this nation is to survive. The surrounding areas must also be destroyed. Of course we can see the violation of the Laws of Nature in the very building of the levies. If there were not those levies, the Mississippi would sustain vital wetlands which would help, not exacerbate the current situation. How interesting that what the hurricane did not destroy breaks in levies are taking care of. Ruda Joe, you really think it's cute for two girls to expose their tits to you and yours at your restaurant and rub them against the window where you worked, do you? As yet rip, so shall yee sew. Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Even if the Gulf Coast were wiped off the map, God forbid, it would not be long before you would seek out another source of 'evil' to be eliminated. Get the point? It isn't outside. The ignorance which you seek to eliminate resides within you. Open your heart, and cleanse it please. And you might start with a profuse apology to Kirk. He is facing enough devastation without your hard-hearted comments. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming, sadly, that the death toll from Katrina reaches 2000, that number of people die tragically every 8.33 *hours* in Africa from poverty. I haven't exactly seen Judy trying to get us to focus on that. Most people find it easier to focus on people who are closer to them in some way, be it geographically, politically, religiously, socially, whatever. In the case of New Orleans, not only is this issue important, but given how important the region is to our economy... Your economy. OUR economy. There's that World is my family issue, in monetary terms. ...the near- destruction of that area impacts how much and how well the US can support the rest of the world economically and socially. Wake up. The United States of America has to borrow two billion dollars a day to stay afloat. I'd say that the world was supporting them. Its interdependent, but American foreign policy sends aid of all kinds (not just military) to other parts of the world. The New Orleans disaster will be felt in many ways in the USA and around the world for many years, possibly for the next century. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
On 8/31/05 10:39 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're about to begin mass evacuation of everyone who's left, via buses. Will he evacuate? Does he have a battery-powered radio to find out what's going on? Just heard some more. It looks like he'll evacuate. Water pressure is dropping in his place (yes he knows it's contaminated). The FQ is still dry where he's at, but it's essentially an island in a toxic swamp. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wake up. The United States of America has to borrow two billion dollars a day to stay afloat. I'd say that the world was supporting them. Its interdependent, but American foreign policy sends aid of all kinds (not just military) to other parts of the world. The New Orleans disaster will be felt in many ways in the USA and around the world for many years, possibly for the next century. Ah, interdependent. So the US sends a tiny bit of the money it borrows from China, Saudi Arabia, and the Netherlands to other parts of the world in the form of aid. Wouldn't it be more accurate then to say that it's the Chinese, the Saudi Arabians and the Dutch who are supplying thr aid to these poor countries? :-) More seriously, there is a possibility that this whole Katrina natural disaster might precipitate the collapse of the American insurance industry. It's an open secret within the industry that pretty much every insurance company in America, taking advantage of asset reporting loopholes available to them that are not available to banks, are severely underfunded. It's been estimated (again, within the industry) that most insurance com- panies have issued polices for 4X to 10X their assets. That means they can't pay off if a lot of those policies come due at once. If a few major companies fail, insiders suspect that they'll all fail, as a result of the domino effect caused by reinsurance, and spreading the debt around. It's not as if these companies don't deserve to fail (you can tell I spent far too much time working as a consultant in that industry to feel their pain), but if it happens it will horribly escalate the impact of this hurricane. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO snip And in preaching to the folks who appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom, and (now) in preaching to those preaching to those folks...etc. :-) than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. You have been keeping us very well apprised of that story, Judy, many thanks :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
Oh, so first tom savages ben collins then we have to listen to him dismiss new orleans as evil. give me a break. the guy is just a jerk. People survive a lot in life without becoming so profoundly insensitive and offensive to others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that Tom's background is a childhood filled with violent abuse in the extreme. That background doesn't justify his repulsive commentary, but it does explain its source. Tom's harsh words should inspire as much compassion as anger. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have spent time off and on in New Orleans, starting over 35 years ago, when I lived and worked in the French Quarter for a few months. I detect that there is an embodiment of evil in New Orleans, ever since my first visit. Voodo, Santaria evil. Evil deeds piled up upon evil deads for centuries. The entire area has always given me the creeps. I believe Rudra Joe is one of those who willingly but not knowingly embodies these evils. I am saddened by the loss of property and the loss of human life. I am saddened by the suffering. But I am heartened by the levies not holding and the pumps failing. If only another hurricane would hit the New Orleans area while it's devastated, it would be an attempt to purge the evil of the New Orleans area which holds the moral and spiritual nature of One Nation Under God down. Tue French Quarter must be completely destroyed by the forces of Nature if this nation is to survive. The surrounding areas must also be destroyed. Of course we can see the violation of the Laws of Nature in the very building of the levies. If there were not those levies, the Mississippi would sustain vital wetlands which would help, not exacerbate the current situation. How interesting that what the hurricane did not destroy breaks in levies are taking care of. Ruda Joe, you really think it's cute for two girls to expose their tits to you and yours at your restaurant and rub them against the window where you worked, do you? As yet rip, so shall yee sew. Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Even if the Gulf Coast were wiped off the map, God forbid, it would not be long before you would seek out another source of 'evil' to be eliminated. Get the point? It isn't outside. The ignorance which you seek to eliminate resides within you. Open your heart, and cleanse it please. And you might start with a profuse apology to Kirk. He is facing enough devastation without your hard-hearted comments. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that Tom's background is a childhood filled with violent abuse in the extreme. That background doesn't justify his repulsive commentary, but it does explain its source. Tom's harsh words should inspire as much compassion as anger. Thanks for sharing this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the Mississippi flooded in 1993, some of us in St. Louis wondered if it was God's way of saying He didn't approve of riverboat gambling. Really! I guess it's always tempting to ascribe some human actions as responsible for nature's retributions, be they floods, tsunamis, earthquakes or what have you. Maharishi tapped into that belief when he promised better weather in exchange for doing TM and hosting gandharva ved concerts. When I was looking at the New York Times' maps of the damage this morning, I wondered if there was a connection between this storm and global warming, not just in its cause but in its course. It was as if the hurricane tried to take out the oil production that contributes to a changed climate. **snip** I can entertain these speculations about the connection between man and nature, but your last remark, Tom, that women exposing their breasts invite destruction, seems utterly Talibanesque. Lots of people like to think that sexual freedom is a sign of a decayed culture. But I suspect it's the opposite. Sexual freedom is just another expression of freedom, which is a good thing. It mirrors the spirit in the material world. But sexual freedom gets attacked by the Troglodytes who justify their violence with the decadence argument. Think Hitler and the Taliban. It's not give me liberty *or* give me death with these people. It's give me liberty *and* give me death. - Patrick Gillam Just a side note: The problem is that global warming is also occuring on Mars. It's (dry)ice caps are melting at a rapid rate. It's farther from the Sun than we are. We're contributing, but not as much as we think. The culture won't be truely sane until nudity is no big deal. Maybe if the bombers saw a few more bare breasts, aw, nevermind JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sound like you'd probably take great delight from seeing anyone suffer who doesn't firmly hold your beliefs. Gosh - sounds an awful like Osama bin Laden, or like the Spanish Inquisitors. Don't you see where you're going? You set yourself up as judge, jury and executioner, and... Damn... What a surprise. Everyone else needs to be killed. Better yet, they need to suffer appropriately before they are destroyed. Even those who had nothing to do with whatever it is you might disagree with. They're guilty too because they must have contributed subconsciously to all this sin? It's a common condition. The Left Behind series of books has sold over 65 million copies. In it all the non-TB christians who weren't taken up to heaven during the rapture are destroyed. God isn't just sitting up there watching it all either, but sends Jesus down on a white horse to lead the slaughter. TB christians find the thought of billions of people who believe differently being murdered by God spiritually inspiring. ...and the sad part of it is that the myth has an actual, real spiritual component to it: the rapture is, simply, the act of transcending...and when we transcend, the world IS destroyed. NOTHING is left and the devastation is complete; we are left in unbounded pure consciousness. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/31/05 10:39 AM, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're about to begin mass evacuation of everyone who's left, via buses. Will he evacuate? Does he have a battery-powered radio to find out what's going on? Just heard some more. It looks like he'll evacuate. Water pressure is dropping in his place (yes he knows it's contaminated). The FQ is still dry where he's at, but it's essentially an island in a toxic swamp. And it's only going to get worse. The number of different threats to health and safety is already high, and it's growing. I'd worry for my personal safety if I had a lot of food stashed away too. Glad he's going to get out, and best wishes to him. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Judy, the horror that's happening on the Gulf Coast is EVERYWHERE...turn on the TV and radio and there it is. Perhaps people come on this forum to take a break from it... I participate in several other forums that entertain a wide range of topics, and it's become a major subject of conversation there, including many requests for information about how to help. Here's what the president of the American Red Cross said last night on MSNBC: ...We need three different things. We need financial contributions. They will be essential, and with the new level of damage that we've appreciated today, particularly in the New Orleans area, money, financial donations, will be key to our ability to respond. But we also need people to donate blood. As you can imagine, with the widespread damage, donations, regular donors have been unable to make their appointments. We're asking people in other parts of the country to make a lifesaving donation of blood. And the third thing that we need, we need people to volunteer. Our Red Cross chapters across the country have been mobilized. They're all engaged in activities directly supporting this effort or contributing to it. And so whether you live in Maine or California, your Red Cross chapter can put you to work and help make a difference. http://www.redcross.org Here's more organizations that need funds, from the SF Chronicle: Salvation Army: Donations can be made via the group's Web site, www.salvationarmyusa.org; by calling (800) 725-2769; or by mail at Salvation Army, Attention: Hurricane Katrina Fund, P.O. Box 193465, San Francisco, CA 94119- 3465. The organization expects to serve 400,000 meals a day to victims and first responders. Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348. America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070. Adventist Community Services: (800) 381-7171. Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or http://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818. Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at http://www.churchworldservice.org Convoy of Hope: (417) 823-8998 or http://www.convoyofhope.org Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522. Mennonite Disaster Service: (717) 859-2210. Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886. Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283. United Methodist Committee on Relief: (800) 554-8583. In addition, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, http://www.walmart.com Feel better? Now you can sleep in peace. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. With all due respect, what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast happens every fucking day on this planet and it bothers the hell out of us every fucking day. It's just that some of us don't posture as com- passionate and caring only when it happens at home. Three points: First, I wouldn't talk about posturing if I were you, considering your own compulsive posturing about the Terrible TMO. Second, the Katrina disaster is something we can help out with on an immediate basis. Third, I checked the archive here from after the tsunami, and nobody seemed to be terribly concerned about it either; there was some discussion, but most of it appeared to be criticism of the TMO for not doing anything to help. Earth to Judy: This is a TM discussion group, NOT a current affairs discussion group... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Bingo. In other words, he's right in line with the thinking of the TM organization at this point. Interesting how the folks on this forum appear to be more interested in preaching to Tom and bashing the TMO than in what's happening to the people on the Gulf Coast. Judy, the horror that's happening on the Gulf Coast is EVERYWHERE...turn on the TV and radio and there it is. Assuming, sadly, that the death toll from Katrina reaches 2000, that number of people die tragically every 8.33 *hours* in Africa from poverty. I haven't exactly seen Judy trying to get us to focus on that. The most effective way for U.S. citizens to improve the situation in Africa is to focus on getting rid of the current administration and installing one that can provide some actual leadership. (That's also the most effective way for us to get measures implemented that can mitigate the effects of future natural disasters here, and for that matter to do something to prevent them, i.e., by stopping global warming--if it can be stopped at this point.) The Katrina disaster is something we can provide very concrete help with *now*. And it isn't just a matter of the death toll, of course, but of the ongoing suffering of several million people. On the way to my computer room to log on to FFL, I stubbed my toe. Bush's fault. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [...] Third, I checked the archive here from after the tsunami, and nobody seemed to be terribly concerned about it either; there was some discussion, but most of it appeared to be criticism of the TMO for not doing anything to help. Earth to Judy: This is a TM discussion group, NOT a current affairs discussion group... Actually, this is NOT a TM discussion group... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Third, I checked the archive here from after the tsunami, and nobody seemed to be terribly concerned about it either; there was some discussion, but most of it appeared to be criticism of the TMO for not doing anything to help. Earth to Judy: This is a TM discussion group, NOT a current affairs discussion group... Right, that's why you just had that long discussion about Chavez and Castro. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Feel better? Now you can sleep in peace. No, 'fraid not. Nothing we can do in the way of donating is going to help evacuate the folks who are being slowly poached to death in the Super Dome any quicker. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The most effective way for U.S. citizens to improve the situation in Africa is to focus on getting rid of the current administration and installing one that can provide some actual leadership. (That's also the most effective way for us to get measures implemented that can mitigate the effects of future natural disasters here, and for that matter to do something to prevent them, i.e., by stopping global warming--if it can be stopped at this point.) The Katrina disaster is something we can provide very concrete help with *now*. And it isn't just a matter of the death toll, of course, but of the ongoing suffering of several million people. On the way to my computer room to log on to FFL, I stubbed my toe. Bush's fault. What he's doing (and not doing) is *our* fault, for having been stupid enough to elect him. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The most effective way for U.S. citizens to improve the situation in Africa is to focus on getting rid of the current administration and installing one that can provide some actual leadership. (That's also the most effective way for us to get measures implemented that can mitigate the effects of future natural disasters here, and for that matter to do something to prevent them, i.e., by stopping global warming--if it can be stopped at this point.) The Katrina disaster is something we can provide very concrete help with *now*. And it isn't just a matter of the death toll, of course, but of the ongoing suffering of several million people. On the way to my computer room to log on to FFL, I stubbed my toe. Bush's fault. What he's doing (and not doing) is *our* fault, for having been stupid enough to elect him. The government is the innocent reflection of the consciousness of its people... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I am saddened by the loss of property and the loss of human life. I am saddened by the suffering. But I am heartened by the levies not holding and the pumps failing. Crews Pass Dead to Reach Storm Survivors By BRETT MARTEL, Associated Press Writer ...A helicopter view of the devastation over the New Orleans area revealed people standing on black rooftops baking in the sunshine while waiting for rescue boats. A row of desperately needed ambulances were lined up on the interstate, water blocking their path. Roller coasters jutted out from the water at a Six Flags amusement park. Hundreds of inmates were seen standing on a highway because the prison had been flooded. Sen. Mary Landrieu quietly traced the sign of the cross across her head and chest as she looked out at St. Bernard Parish, where only roofs peaked out from the water. The whole parish is gone, Landrieu said. All day long, rescuers in boats and helicopters pulled out shellshocked and bedraggled flood refugees from rooftops and attics. The Coast Guard said it has rescued 1,200 people by boat and air, some placed shivering and wet into helicopter baskets. They were brought by the truckload into shelters, some in wheelchairs and some carrying babies, with stories of survival and of those who didn't make it. Oh my God, it was hell, said Kioka Williams, who had to hack through the ceiling of the beauty shop where she worked as floodwaters rose in New Orleans' low-lying Ninth Ward. We were screaming, hollering, flashing lights. It was complete chaos. Frank Mills was in a boarding house in the same neighborhood when water started swirling up toward the ceiling and he fled to the roof. Two elderly residents never made it out, and a third was washed away trying to climb onto the roof. He was kind of on the edge of the roof, catching his breath, Mills said. Next thing I knew, he came floating past me. Across Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, more than 1 million residents remained without electricity, some without clean drinking water. An untold number who heeded evacuation orders were displaced and 40,000 were in Red Cross shelters, with officials saying it could be weeks, if not months, before most will be able to return More at: http://tinyurl.com/dmkq9 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have spent time off and on in New Orleans, starting over 35 years ago, when I lived and worked in the French Quarter for a few months. I detect that there is an embodiment of evil in New Orleans, ever since my first visit. Voodo, Santaria evil. Evil deeds piled up upon evil deads for centuries. The entire area has always given me the creeps. I believe Rudra Joe is one of those who willingly but not knowingly embodies these evils. I am saddened by the loss of property and the loss of human life. I am saddened by the suffering. But I am heartened by the levies not holding and the pumps failing. If only another hurricane would hit the New Orleans area while it's devastated, it would be an attempt to purge the evil of the New Orleans area which holds the moral and spiritual nature of One Nation Under God down. Tue French Quarter must be completely destroyed by the forces of Nature if this nation is to survive. The surrounding areas must also be destroyed. Boy, talk about embodying evil... Amen. Does one who takes righteous glee in scapegoating and in final solutions really benefit from yagyas, and if so, how? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Boy, talk about embodying evil... Amen. Does one who takes righteous glee in scapegoating and in final solutions really benefit from yagyas, and if so, how? From Editor Publisher: Did New Orleans Catastrophe Have to Happen? 'Times-Picayune' Had Repeatedly Raised Federal Spending Issues By Will Bunch Published: August 30, 2005 9:00 PM ET PHILADELPHIA Even though Hurricane Katrina has moved well north of the city, the waters may still keep rising in New Orleans late on Tuesday. That's because Lake Pontchartrain continues to pour through a two-block-long break in the main levee, near the city's 17th Street Canal. With much of the Crescent City some 10 feet below sea level, the rising tide may not stop until it's level with the massive lake. New Orleans had long known it was highly vulnerable to flooding and a direct hit from a hurricane. In fact, the federal government has been working with state and local officials in the region since the late 1960s on major hurricane and flood relief efforts. When flooding from a massive rainstorm in May 1995 killed six people, Congress authorized the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, or SELA. Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside. Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars. Newhouse News Service, in an article posted late Tuesday night at The Times-Picayune web site, reported: No one can say they didn't see it comingNow in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation. In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness. On June 8, 2004, Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; told the Times-Picayune: It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us The 2004 hurricane season was the worst in decades. In spite of that, the federal government came back this spring with the steepest reduction in hurricane and flood-control funding for New Orleans in history. Because of the proposed cuts, the Corps office there imposed a hiring freeze. Officials said that money targeted for the SELA project -- $10.4 million, down from $36.5 million -- was not enough to start any new jobs. There was, at the same time, a growing recognition that more research was needed to see what New Orleans must do to protect itself from a Category 4 or 5 hurricane. But once again, the money was not there http://tinyurl.com/bsttp Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have spent time off and on in New Orleans, starting over 35 years ago, when I lived and worked in the French Quarter for a few months. I detect that there is an embodiment of evil in New Orleans, ever since my first visit. Voodo, Santaria evil. Evil deeds piled up upon evil deads for centuries. The entire area has always given me the creeps. I believe Rudra Joe is one of those who willingly but not knowingly embodies these evils. I am saddened by the loss of property and the loss of human life. I am saddened by the suffering. But I am heartened by the levies not holding and the pumps failing. If only another hurricane would hit the New Orleans area while it's devastated, it would be an attempt to purge the evil of the New Orleans area which holds the moral and spiritual nature of One Nation Under God down. Tue French Quarter must be completely destroyed by the forces of Nature if this nation is to survive. The surrounding areas must also be destroyed. Of course we can see the violation of the Laws of Nature in the very building of the levies. If there were not those levies, the Mississippi would sustain vital wetlands which would help, not exacerbate the current situation. How interesting that what the hurricane did not destroy breaks in levies are taking care of. Ruda Joe, you really think it's cute for two girls to expose their tits to you and yours at your restaurant and rub them against the window where you worked, do you? As yet rip, so shall yee sew. Tom, you appear to be confusing the ignorance within yourself which you call 'evil' and which you are struggling against, with elements outside yourself, which you would like to eliminate, in order to give you peace of mind. Even if the Gulf Coast were wiped off the map, God forbid, it would not be long before you would seek out another source of 'evil' to be eliminated. Get the point? It isn't outside. The ignorance which you seek to eliminate resides within you. Open your heart, and cleanse it please. And you might start with a profuse apology to Kirk. He is facing enough devastation without your hard-hearted comments. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The destruction of New Orleans, the purification of America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have spent time off and on in New Orleans, starting over 35 years ago, when I lived and worked in the French Quarter for a few months. I detect that there is an embodiment of evil in New Orleans, ever since my first visit. Voodo, Santaria evil. Evil deeds piled up upon evil deads for centuries. The entire area has always given me the creeps. I believe Rudra Joe is one of those who willingly but not knowingly embodies these evils. snip We needed this post. Things were getting pretty dull around here. I have to say though Tom, maybe you should have signed off when you intended to. Love ya like a brother. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
