[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: But you are right, it will happen to the US, but the difference is that the US will be uplifted by the selling off to foreigners of the best real estate and companies, as is already happening. Now it is is going to speed up. It is so great taking back what is rightfully ours. Apparently not as this is looking like it is going to be a global crash too. Probably even effecting Spain. Exactly why I'm starting to write and sell other things. Consulting for a company that is the world leader in its field may not be the smartest thing in the world to rely on in a world that may have no money to spend on software. As many sociologists and anthropologists have pointed out, the key to survival is not strength or power, but flexibility, the ability to adapt to changing conditions. The rigid die, the flexible survive.
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TurquoiseB wrote: Exactly why I'm starting to write and sell other things. Consulting for a company that is the world leader in its field may not be the smartest thing in the world to rely on in a world that may have no money to spend on software. As many sociologists and anthropologists have pointed out, the key to survival is not strength or power, but flexibility, the ability to adapt to changing conditions. The rigid die, the flexible survive. When it was becoming apparently a crash was in the making I began doing searches on how to make money during a recession and how to make money during a depression. The main answer on many sites was sell lower priced items that people can afford. It's interesting how many companies went the opposite directly and started raising their prices as if let's harvest the market now and head for the hills. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Exactly why I'm starting to write and sell other things. Consulting for a company that is the world leader in its field may not be the smartest thing in the world to rely on in a world that may have no money to spend on software. As many sociologists and anthropologists have pointed out, the key to survival is not strength or power, but flexibility, the ability to adapt to changing conditions. The rigid die, the flexible survive. When it was becoming apparently a crash was in the making I began doing searches on how to make money during a recession and how to make money during a depression. The main answer on many sites was sell lower priced items that people can afford. Interestingly there is another group of businesses that is rarely affected negatively by a recession or depression -- business that cater to people with Too Much Money. In many cases, unless their wealth was all kept in markets that go bust, the rich stay rich during a recession or depression. And they still want their toys. One of the markets that tends to still do well in tough times according to the article I read (and one of our posters here can correct me if the article was wrong) is high-end audio. These days it would include high-end video as well. High-end watches and jewelry continues to sell. And service-oriented businesses that focus on personal service, if you can afford it still tend to do well. According to the same article, certain parts of the entertainment business stay solvent. The worse the recession or depression, the greater the demand for *diversion* in the public there is, so there is still a market for movies and TV and escapist fiction. Quality may go down because of financial constraints, but quantity tends to go up.
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TurquoiseB wrote: Interestingly there is another group of businesses that is rarely affected negatively by a recession or depression -- business that cater to people with Too Much Money. In many cases, unless their wealth was all kept in markets that go bust, the rich stay rich during a recession or depression. And they still want their toys. Maybe. There are reports that some of the rich put their money into things that aren't panning out. The crash may well take them down too. One of the markets that tends to still do well in tough times according to the article I read (and one of our posters here can correct me if the article was wrong) is high-end audio. These days it would include high-end video as well. High-end watches and jewelry continues to sell. And service-oriented businesses that focus on personal service, if you can afford it still tend to do well. Some times I wonder if I should replace my almost 8 year old HDTV now because prices which have been coming down may actually go back up. It's a RPTV and really only does around 1000 pixels across and about 960 lines. Some of the newer shows are ignoring the old overscan rules and so I'm getting tops of heads cut off. :-D Also it would be nice to use the better DVD player (my BluRay) which would require HDMI which isn't on the 8 year old set. The old set has great display though. According to the same article, certain parts of the entertainment business stay solvent. The worse the recession or depression, the greater the demand for *diversion* in the public there is, so there is still a market for movies and TV and escapist fiction. Quality may go down because of financial constraints, but quantity tends to go up. We seem to have no lack of writers though. It's the politics of the business they have to get around and the tendency for many producers to skim on the writing budget. A good story can be told without a huge budget. They've just created an audience that wants template stories with lots of flashy effects. Jeez, they're even trying to sell 3D again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Interestingly there is another group of businesses that is rarely affected negatively by a recession or depression -- business that cater to people with Too Much Money. In many cases, unless their wealth was all kept in markets that go bust, the rich stay rich during a recession or depression. And they still want their toys. Maybe. There are reports that some of the rich put their money into things that aren't panning out. The crash may well take them down too. I believe the rich will be affected the most. For most people you either are able to hang on to your home or job or you are not. Its a simple equation, then you just move on, adapt, change, and life goes on. But for the rich, they are suddenly panicking about where their money should go. Can't trust anything or anyone with it. So they have to run around like headless-chickens worrying about if their money could get quickly sucked away. Probably gold is the only safe place, or prime real estate, but the latter will only be any good if there is a very strong turn-around in the future. I think a lot of the criminals among the rich, like Dick Cheney, the Bush's and McCain's are just trying to grab as much money as possible as quickly as possible, and by making sure the wars continue to their financial benefit. OffWorld One of the markets that tends to still do well in tough times according to the article I read (and one of our posters here can correct me if the article was wrong) is high-end audio. These days it would include high-end video as well. High-end watches and jewelry continues to sell. And service-oriented businesses that focus on personal service, if you can afford it still tend to do well. Some times I wonder if I should replace my almost 8 year old HDTV now because prices which have been coming down may actually go back up. It's a RPTV and really only does around 1000 pixels across and about 960 lines. Some of the newer shows are ignoring the old overscan rules and so I'm getting tops of heads cut off. :-D Also it would be nice to use the better DVD player (my BluRay) which would require HDMI which isn't on the 8 year old set. The old set has great display though. According to the same article, certain parts of the entertainment business stay solvent. The worse the recession or depression, the greater the demand for *diversion* in the public there is, so there is still a market for movies and TV and escapist fiction. Quality may go down because of financial constraints, but quantity tends to go up. We seem to have no lack of writers though. It's the politics of the business they have to get around and the tendency for many producers to skim on the writing budget. A good story can be told without a huge budget. They've just created an audience that wants template stories with lots of flashy effects. Jeez, they're even trying to sell 3D again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
off wrote: Probably gold is the only safe place, Where are you going to hide $300,000 in gold coins? Take all your cash out of banks and purchase easily redeemed 'Certificates of Deposit' or CDs. or prime real estate, Do not buy any real estate or stocks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
whatever they are telling you to do here with your money, do the exact opposite, most of these folks are billionaires after all and they know best to invest thie and your money! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off wrote: Probably gold is the only safe place, Where are you going to hide $300,000 in gold coins? Take all your cash out of banks and purchase easily redeemed 'Certificates of Deposit' or CDs. or prime real estate, Do not buy any real estate or stocks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration - corrected spelling
whatever they are telling you to do here with your money, do the exact opposite, most of these folks are billionaires after all and they know best to invest their own and your money! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: off wrote: Probably gold is the only safe place, Where are you going to hide $300,000 in gold coins? Take all your cash out of banks and purchase easily redeemed 'Certificates of Deposit' or CDs. or prime real estate, Do not buy any real estate or stocks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: off_world_beings wrote: Many Americans cannot afford to retire in this country. I can. OffWorld FYI, many Argentinians thought they were set for retirement before 2000. Then look what happened. Ha ha, they were a military junta up until a couple of decades ago. Hardly a worthy comparison ! OffWorld Don't be such an idiot. They had a flourishing economy. They had retirement funds including 401Ks. Many professionals including doctors, lawyers , college professors, etc, all lost their savings and retirement funds. Many had to sell their homes just to survive. Thing is the IMF has been warning the same thing could happen to the US. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_economic_crisis_(1999-2002 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_economic_crisis_(1999-2002 ) http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6_i8zuffs http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6_i8zuffs Don't be such an idiot. Argentina was barely out of military junta for more than a couple of decades. You try starting a capitalist economy straight out of a fascist one. Go ahead try it someday. But you are right, it will happen to the US, but the difference is that the US will be uplifted by the selling off to foreigners of the best real estate and companies, as is already happening. Now it is is going to speed up. It is so great taking back what is rightfully ours. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off: Ha ha, they were a military junta up until a couple of decades ago. Hardly a worthy comparison ! Bhairitu; Don't be such an idiot. They had a flourishing economy. They had retirement funds including 401Ks. Many professionals including doctors, lawyers , college professors, etc, all lost their savings and retirement funds. Many had to sell their homes just to survive. Thing is the IMF has been warning the same thing could happen to the US. I suggest you don't confront Off with facts. He just hates facts, especially when they go against his pre-conditioned beliefs. And he has the cutest ostrich asana you've ever seen. That's just gay. OffWorld
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off_world_beings wrote: But you are right, it will happen to the US, but the difference is that the US will be uplifted by the selling off to foreigners of the best real estate and companies, as is already happening. Now it is is going to speed up. It is so great taking back what is rightfully ours. OffWorld Apparently not as this is looking like it is going to be a global crash too. Probably even effecting Spain.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: But you are right, it will happen to the US, but the difference is that the US will be uplifted by the selling off to foreigners of the best real estate and companies, as is already happening. Now it is is going to speed up. It is so great taking back what is rightfully ours. OffWorld Apparently not as this is looking like it is going to be a global crash too. Probably even effecting Spain. Those that fall, shall fall...but Ishall rise. OffWorld
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(sniP The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. Bullshit. People in the US are very lazy. They are fat and drive 30 yards to get the gorceries. They are among the laziest people in the world. Not only that they feel entitled due to all the brainwashing they've had. Perhaps it has to do with extreme poverty in Mexico and Central America; Over-population due to lack of birth control due to Roman Catholism; The Republican attitude Bush learned from the Saudi's- have immigrants do all the 'dirty work'... A several thousand mile border that is hard to defend against starving people. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@ wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. Bullshit. People in the US are very lazy. They are fat and drive 30 yards to get the gorceries. They are among the laziest people in the world. America is a union of countries with more than 300 million population. Per capita, almost any developed country in Europes has more immigration than US. Scotland alone has more per capita immigration than the States. Take Europe as a whole and it is much more. OffWorld IMO, the work schedule in the US at typically 40 hours per week is hard work for most people in the world. ROTFLMAO ! Many of the people in the world, particularly the underdeveloped countries, don't even have any jobs and are unemployed. Are you serious? ! Lol ! As such, the standard of living is fairly low compared to the developed countries. If you talk to a recent immigrant who is working here in the US, he will tell you that he did not expect work life here would be so difficult. I am a recent immigrant and its no harder than anywhere else - although I am not making as much money as back home, but America is more fun in other ways (not more money, and not more work.) But since he is making more money than the old country, he is contented to stay here until he earns enough money to go home, or retire in this country or elsewhere. Many Americans cannot afford to retire in this country. I can. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: for all the faults of the U.S. the immigration actions of millions show that it is one of the most desired countries to live in from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than any other country in the world.[1] In 2006, the number of immigrants totaled 37.5 million.[2][3] ...and add to that an estimated population of ILLEGAL immigrants anywhere from 12-25 million and that's one impression total. Indeed, I would say that the illegal immigrant number makes Betty's point even better: they risk a hell of a lot to get here, sometimes their lives. There are more illegal immigrants to Europe than to the US, and there also more legal immagrants to Europe than to the US. You Americans are living in cloud-cuckoo land. Totally isolated and naive about the world. Meanwhile many Americans cannot afford to retire in the US, and many more are emmigrating to Europe, Japan, China, etc, while they can. You Veterans have to beg to survive here. Disgusting. US is dying. If Obama does not get in, most of the blue states will likely make moves to secede from the nation. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@ wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. Bullshit. People in the US are very lazy. They are fat and drive 30 yards to get the gorceries. They are among the laziest people in the world. America is a union of countries with more than 300 million population. Per capita, almost any developed country in Europes has more immigration than US. Scotland alone has more per capita immigration than the States. Take Europe as a whole and it is much more. OffWorld IMO, the work schedule in the US at typically 40 hours per week is hard work for most people in the world. ROTFLMAO ! You forget that there are other organizations like Microsoft that require workers to work longer than 40 hours per week. Multiply that over one year and beyond. You have an incredibly brutal schedule toward a heart attack at the very least. Many of the people in the world, particularly the underdeveloped countries, don't even have any jobs and are unemployed. Are you serious? ! Lol ! As such, the standard of living is fairly low compared to the developed countries. If you talk to a recent immigrant who is working here in the US, he will tell you that he did not expect work life here would be so difficult. I am a recent immigrant and its no harder than anywhere else - although I am not making as much money as back home, but America is more fun in other ways (not more money, and not more work.) Many countries in Europe like France and Italy have a shorter work week with longer vacations, at least four to six weeks. I don't know the equivalent data regarding Japan, India or countries in Africa. But since he is making more money than the old country, he is contented to stay here until he earns enough money to go home, or retire in this country or elsewhere. Many Americans cannot afford to retire in this country. I can. Then you have done well in this country. Many American-born citizens in the USA are not as lucky as you.
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off_world_beings wrote: Many Americans cannot afford to retire in this country. I can. OffWorld FYI, many Argentinians thought they were set for retirement before 2000. Then look what happened.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: Many Americans cannot afford to retire in this country. I can. OffWorld FYI, many Argentinians thought they were set for retirement before 2000. Then look what happened. Ha ha, they were a military junta up until a couple of decades ago. Hardly a worthy comparison ! OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@ wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. Bullshit. People in the US are very lazy. They are fat and drive 30 yards to get the gorceries. They are among the laziest people in the world. America is a union of countries with more than 300 million population. Per capita, almost any developed country in Europes has more immigration than US. Scotland alone has more per capita immigration than the States. Take Europe as a whole and it is much more. OffWorld IMO, the work schedule in the US at typically 40 hours per week is hard work for most people in the world. ROTFLMAO ! You forget that there are other organizations like Microsoft that require workers to work longer than 40 hours per week. Multiply that over one year and beyond. You have an incredibly brutal schedule toward a heart attack at the very least. So what's new, same thing everywhere. Many of the people in the world, particularly the underdeveloped countries, don't even have any jobs and are unemployed. Are you serious? ! Lol ! As such, the standard of living is fairly low compared to the developed countries. If you talk to a recent immigrant who is working here in the US, he will tell you that he did not expect work life here would be so difficult. I am a recent immigrant and its no harder than anywhere else - although I am not making as much money as back home, but America is more fun in other ways (not more money, and not more work.) Many countries in Europe like France and Italy have a shorter work week with longer vacations, at least four to six weeks. . But they work at something else the rest of the time. But since he is making more money than the old country, he is contented to stay here until he earns enough money to go home, or retire in this country or elsewhere. Many Americans cannot afford to retire in this country. I can. Then you have done well in this country. Many American-born citizens in the USA are not as lucky as you. No, I did not do well because of this country. You are jumping to conclusions. I am doing well because this country is doing so badly and the people running it are so stupid. This country could go into extreme recession, and I will just get wealthier. OffWorld
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off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: Many Americans cannot afford to retire in this country. I can. OffWorld FYI, many Argentinians thought they were set for retirement before 2000. Then look what happened. Ha ha, they were a military junta up until a couple of decades ago. Hardly a worthy comparison ! OffWorld Don't be such an idiot. They had a flourishing economy. They had retirement funds including 401Ks. Many professionals including doctors, lawyers , college professors, etc, all lost their savings and retirement funds. Many had to sell their homes just to survive. Thing is the IMF has been warning the same thing could happen to the US. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_economic_crisis_(1999-2002) http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6_i8zuffs
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
Off: Ha ha, they were a military junta up until a couple of decades ago. Hardly a worthy comparison ! Bhairitu; Don't be such an idiot. They had a flourishing economy. They had retirement funds including 401Ks. Many professionals including doctors, lawyers , college professors, etc, all lost their savings and retirement funds. Many had to sell their homes just to survive. Thing is the IMF has been warning the same thing could happen to the US. I suggest you don't confront Off with facts. He just hates facts, especially when they go against his pre-conditioned beliefs. And he has the cutest ostrich asana you've ever seen.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for all the faults of the U.S. the immigration actions of millions show that it is one of the most desired countries to live in from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than any other country in the world.[1] In 2006, the number of immigrants totaled 37.5 million.[2][3] ...and add to that an estimated population of ILLEGAL immigrants anywhere from 12-25 million and that's one impression total. Indeed, I would say that the illegal immigrant number makes Betty's point even better: they risk a hell of a lot to get here, sometimes their lives.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
while I do not have the numbers handy, those who have left the US for greener pastures elewhere are a very small number indeed Canada has a very high level if immigration too people seek freedom and a better life, that is what brought them to the US and many have acheived a better life too --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: for all the faults of the U.S. the immigration actions of millions show that it is one of the most desired countries to live in from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than any other country in the world.[1] In 2006, the number of immigrants totaled 37.5 million.[2][3] ...and add to that an estimated population of ILLEGAL immigrants anywhere from 12-25 million and that's one impression total. Indeed, I would say that the illegal immigrant number makes Betty's point even better: they risk a hell of a lot to get here, sometimes their lives.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for all the faults of the U.S. the immigration actions of millions show that it is one of the most desired countries to live in from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than any other country in the world.[1] In 2006, the number of immigrants totaled 37.5 million.[2][3]
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John wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. Problem is that many people who have excellent experience and training have had the door shut in their face because of outsourcing. They need some help and some one to show them how to transpose some of their skills to another field. Thing is we used to have state programs for that but not anymore because the conservatives saw it as government waste. They prefer a sink or swim program. At this time we probably have more people than we have jobs for so we need to revisit our attitudes on employment and the total structure of society. Coming soon to a community near you: socialism (and don't blame the left, blame greedy righties).
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. Yes, for some you are rewarded. But as I mentioned, there is less class mobility in the US than in many European countries. Interesting, eh? Waste their time in homelessness? Have you met many homeless people? Most have so many problems that talking about the land of opportunity to them would be peculiar.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. Yes, for some you are rewarded. But as I mentioned, there is less class mobility in the US than in many European countries. Interesting, eh? I'm not sure where you're getting your statistics. Nonetheless, I'm for global opportunity. In jyotish, there are some people who are NOT destined to be successful in their homeland. For those people, it is better for them to seek opportunity elsewhere. If it's in Europe, Japan or elsewhere, the person involved should seek it there where they will get the support of Nature in their endeavors. Waste their time in homelessness? Have you met many homeless people? Yes, I have. Many of them have mental problems, although not all. As such, it will take a very long time to help them. Most have so many problems that talking about the land of opportunity to them would be peculiar. Very true. It is important to know more of themselves and where their opportunities lie. There should be some help for them to take care of their immediate needs. But the people involved should have take the initiative to help themselves. Also, the government can help to a certain extent by providing training and job opportunities for those in need.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. Problem is that many people who have excellent experience and training have had the door shut in their face because of outsourcing. They need some help and some one to show them how to transpose some of their skills to another field. I agree that there should be some help for the people involved. But the people should take the initiative to find other opportunities when their current jobs are at a dead end. There's a reason why some jobs are being outsourced to other countries. That's because it's more efficient to do so. Thing is we used to have state programs for that but not anymore because the conservatives saw it as government waste. They prefer a sink or swim program. At this time we probably have more people than we have jobs for so we need to revisit our attitudes on employment and the total structure of society. In the long run, it is better to create new opportunities in this country rather than try to hold on to jobs that are being done more efficiently through outsourcing. The people affected can either find new jobs for themselves, or create new businesses that are more successful in their geographic areas. Coming soon to a community near you: socialism (and don't blame the left, blame greedy righties). I don't believe socialism is the answer. Why? Because socialism does not reward the efficient and innovative. It tries to constrain all people to an average which create strain to those people who are industrious and for those who are not motivated. As a result, the income taxes are very high in countries like Norway, France or Italy which adopt socialism or forms of its system. On the other, pure capitalism is not the answer either. There should be an economic system that allows the people to take care of their economic needs and their spiritual well being.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
John wrote: I agree that there should be some help for the people involved. But the people should take the initiative to find other opportunities when their current jobs are at a dead end. There's a reason why some jobs are being outsourced to other countries. That's because it's more efficient to do so. No it isn't. It's just cheaper to do so. Our standard of living is too high. If it didn't cost so much to live here we'd be cheaper too. In my field a bunch of fools tried to outsource and got back crap. It was for video games and the foreigners didn't understand the culture. Companies pulled stuff back in. Look deeper at your jyotish charts and you'll find why some people are flummoxed when it comes to taking the initiative. Not everyone is highly driven, we'd all be pitta types wouldn't we if that was so? Thing is we used to have state programs for that but not anymore because the conservatives saw it as government waste. They prefer a sink or swim program. At this time we probably have more people than we have jobs for so we need to revisit our attitudes on employment and the total structure of society. In the long run, it is better to create new opportunities in this country rather than try to hold on to jobs that are being done more efficiently through outsourcing. The people affected can either find new jobs for themselves, or create new businesses that are more successful in their geographic areas. It's not that easy. People don't get much help these days in the times of crisis. It may be easy for you to say but if you're time comes we'll see. You hit that set of bad transits and dashas and everything can go belly-up. ;-) Coming soon to a community near you: socialism (and don't blame the left, blame greedy righties). I don't believe socialism is the answer. Why? Because socialism does not reward the efficient and innovative. It tries to constrain all people to an average which create strain to those people who are industrious and for those who are not motivated. Most likely the majority would be happy in a socialist environment. Only the highly individualistic would be unhappy. But it is inefficient for a government to have a bunch of small businesses. For the independent type let them run a small business but limit the size. Best of both worlds. As a result, the income taxes are very high in countries like Norway, France or Italy which adopt socialism or forms of its system. And the citizens get more back from their taxes, unlike US citizens who are getting theirs burned up over in the Middle East. On the other, pure capitalism is not the answer either. There should be an economic system that allows the people to take care of their economic needs and their spiritual well being. Just gave you the model: socialism for things that are in the commons and limited capitalism where applicable. Just don't give any one individual or group too much power. But that's what we're supposed to have in the US or what the founding fathers envisioned.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
Bullshit. More dumb shit from Americans. America is a union of countries with more than 300 million population. Per capita, almost any developed country in Europes has more immigration than US. Scotland alone has more per capita immigration than the States. Take Europe as a whole and it is much more. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for all the faults of the U.S. the immigration actions of millions show that it is one of the most desired countries to live in from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than any other country in the world.[1] In 2006, the number of immigrants totaled 37.5 million.[2][3]
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. Bullshit. People in the US are very lazy. They are fat and drive 30 yards to get the gorceries. They are among the laziest people in the world. America is a union of countries with more than 300 million population. Per capita, almost any developed country in Europes has more immigration than US. Scotland alone has more per capita immigration than the States. Take Europe as a whole and it is much more. OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. Bullshit. People in the US are very lazy. They are fat and drive 30 yards to get the gorceries. They are among the laziest people in the world. Not only that they feel entitled due to all the brainwashing they've had.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. Problem is that many people who have excellent experience and training have had the door shut in their face because of outsourcing. Bullshit. Many skilled Americans are working in Ireland, Europe and China. Those that stay are doing just great (except the redneck states) People in the US are very socialist. They are very generous with charity, but their government wants the people to pay for charity (socialism) so that the government can spend all the money on war machines and propping up a false dollar as well as taking away your pensions for the corporate greedy. the government does not even want to pay for the vets and wounded of the current war. That is sick. America is a union of countries with more than 300 million population. Per capita, almost any developed country in Europes has more immigration than US. Scotland alone has more per capita immigration than the States. Take Europe as a whole and it is much more. OffWorld They need some help and some one to show them how to transpose some of their skills to another field. Thing is we used to have state programs for that but not anymore because the conservatives saw it as government waste. They prefer a sink or swim program. At this time we probably have more people than we have jobs for so we need to revisit our attitudes on employment and the total structure of society. Coming soon to a community near you: socialism (and don't blame the left, blame greedy righties).
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bullshit. More dumb shit from Americans. America is a union of countries with more than 300 million population. Per capita, almost any developed country in Europes has more immigration than US. Scotland alone has more per capita immigration than the States. Take Europe as a whole and it is much more. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_new_cit_percap-immigration-new-citizenships-per-capita US is above France, Germany, Norway, Spain, Italy, Japan, UK. Canada and Belgium lead, about twice the level of per capital as US, (and more than 2x the countries listed above) OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: for all the faults of the U.S. the immigration actions of millions show that it is one of the most desired countries to live in from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than any other country in the world.[1] In 2006, the number of immigrants totaled 37.5 million.[2][3]
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Bullshit. More dumb shit from Americans. America is a union of countries with more than 300 million population. Per capita, almost any developed country in Europes has more immigration than US. Scotland alone has more per capita immigration than the States. Take Europe as a whole and it is much more. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_new_cit_percap-immigration-new-cit\ izenships-per-capita http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_new_cit_percap-immigration-new-ci\ tizenships-per-capita US is above France, Germany, Norway, Spain, Italy, Japan, UK. Canada and Belgium lead, about twice the level of per capital as US, (and more than 2x the countries listed above) Those statistics are Bullshit (I just like saying Bullshit tonight, please forgive me my obsession.) Europeans do not immigrate to the other countries in Europe, they are not counted. If a German moves to England or visa versa it is not counted because in Europe you can work in any country without immigration papers. So the statistics are completely wrong if you talk about countries. Europe as a whole is probably higher than US, and Scotland is higher per capita than US. And that doesn't count illegal immigration which is bigger in Europe as a whole than in US. OffWorld OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , bettyblue109 no_reply@ wrote: for all the faults of the U.S. the immigration actions of millions show that it is one of the most desired countries to live in from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than any other country in the world.[1] In 2006, the number of immigrants totaled 37.5 million.[2][3]
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_pub_spe_per_stu_sec_lev-spending-per-student-secondary-level1 US spening per student is about average world-wide -- above Germany,UK and Japan. Sudan beats all developed countries.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@ wrote: This is because the US is a land where hard work is rewarded with wealth and prosperity. I believe the US government is screening for those type of people who believe in this dream to become citizens. Unfortunately, there are American citizens born in this country who do not appreciate the opportunity that is available in the US. Thus, they waste their time in unemployment and homelessness. The US jyotish chart shows that this country is not for the lazy or those without dreams of a better life. Bullshit. People in the US are very lazy. They are fat and drive 30 yards to get the gorceries. They are among the laziest people in the world. America is a union of countries with more than 300 million population. Per capita, almost any developed country in Europes has more immigration than US. Scotland alone has more per capita immigration than the States. Take Europe as a whole and it is much more. OffWorld IMO, the work schedule in the US at typically 40 hours per week is hard work for most people in the world. Many of the people in the world, particularly the underdeveloped countries, don't even have any jobs and are unemployed. As such, the standard of living is fairly low compared to the developed countries. If you talk to a recent immigrant who is working here in the US, he will tell you that he did not expect work life here would be so difficult. But since he is making more money than the old country, he is contented to stay here until he earns enough money to go home, or retire in this country or elsewhere.
