[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
Bhairitu: And what are those jobs you're going to create? Most of the new jobs will be in the medical sector taking care of old people, and high tech jobs going to young people. Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty... - Robert Heinlein
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On 06/05/2011 07:59 AM, WillyTex wrote: Bhairitu: And what are those jobs you're going to create? Most of the new jobs will be in the medical sector taking care of old people, and high tech jobs going to young people. The high tech sector should be hiring experienced people and making young people apprentices. Young people have no edge on technology. They just believe they do. Too much politics in the medical sector as all the opportunists jump in to fill their rice bowls. Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty... - Robert Heinlein Society probably doesn't need so much future shock. We could put technology on pause for a couple centuries a be just fine. Most of the populace can't keep up with technical advances. Then there's simple living too which is not poverty. Americans were sold an extravagant, unsustainable standard of living. One could also sell them simple living to which is sustainable and still comfortable. An attempt to do this was made before the fire breathing dragon Reagan took office.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
According Robert Reich, the Dems you voted for have dropped the ball on the economy. Bhairitu: And the Republicans created the mess in the first place... Not according to most U.S. economists! It's been over two years since the Democrat-led Senate last passed a budget, a fact that puts it squarely in violation of the law. So when will the arrests begin? We say that only partly tongue in cheek, because the refusal of Democrats in Congress to pass a budget or take meaningful steps to head off our looming fiscal disaster is nothing short of a national disgrace... 'Dems Refuse To Deal With Their Fiscal Mess' http://tinyurl.com/3pd9wgc
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On 06/03/2011 10:20 AM, WillyTex wrote: According Robert Reich, the Dems you voted for have dropped the ball on the economy. Bhairitu: And the Republicans created the mess in the first place... Not according to most U.S. economists! It's been over two years since the Democrat-led Senate last passed a budget, a fact that puts it squarely in violation of the law. So when will the arrests begin? We say that only partly tongue in cheek, because the refusal of Democrats in Congress to pass a budget or take meaningful steps to head off our looming fiscal disaster is nothing short of a national disgrace... 'Dems Refuse To Deal With Their Fiscal Mess' http://tinyurl.com/3pd9wgc That's ignoring that a Republican administration started the Afghanistan and Iraq wars costing this country trillions! And it was a Republican administration that pushed the bail out in the fall of 2008. The Republicans have a conspiracy running at the behest of their wealthy contributors to bankrupt the American middle class so they can buy their properties for pennies on the dollar. The only way to get out of this will be a full scale revolution. And what are those jobs you're going to create? You seem to want to wuss out of answering that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
I figure the unions have driven many companies to seek cheap labor overseas. Who wants to pay assembly workers $30 an hour plus benefits? I think the days of buying American are over - it's a global economy now. These are liberals like President Obama at work - there's no more 'American Business Patriotism' these days. It's looking like GE has taken control of the White House and some of our news media! It's not going to do any good to yell and scream and foment a 'revolution' like Bhairitu wants - just think about who you're voting for next time! We've got to understand there's a fundamental difference between the competitiveness of these companies and the competitiveness of America and American workers. - Robert Reich Bhairitu: Willy really is all over the map isn't he? He's now quoting Robert Reich... Your political views are radically extreme, but mine are mainstream and practical: create jobs so people can make good money and pay their own way. You are not going to get that by starting a revolution - you'd go broke in a week and probably starve to death in a month. According Robert Reich, the Dems you voted for have dropped the ball on the economy. Romney is all about job creation and that is what Americans are going to vote for. None of your economic ideas are going to be practical - like starting a revolution - that's not going to happen, since we already have a democracy. The last thing most American voters want is a revolt in the streets. People want to make good money, not participate in a radical protest over the global profits of GE. You don't even take part in a tea-party protest! You're all hat, no cattle. Under normal circumstances, this would be the time for the federal government to take bold action to ward off a double dip. For example, it could put more cash in peoples' pockets while giving employers an extra incentive to hire by exempting the first $20,000 of earnings from payroll taxes, for a year or two... Read more: 'Back towards a US double-dip' By Robert Reich http://tinyurl.com/5sbj6gp
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On 06/02/2011 09:06 AM, WillyTex wrote: I figure the unions have driven many companies to seek cheap labor overseas. Who wants to pay assembly workers $30 an hour plus benefits? I think the days of buying American are over - it's a global economy now. These are liberals like President Obama at work - there's no more 'American Business Patriotism' these days. It's looking like GE has taken control of the White House and some of our news media! It's not going to do any good to yell and scream and foment a 'revolution' like Bhairitu wants - just think about who you're voting for next time! We've got to understand there's a fundamental difference between the competitiveness of these companies and the competitiveness of America and American workers. - Robert Reich Bhairitu: Willy really is all over the map isn't he? He's now quoting Robert Reich... Your political views are radically extreme, but mine are mainstream and practical: create jobs so people can make good money and pay their own way. You are not going to get that by starting a revolution - you'd go broke in a week and probably starve to death in a month. What kind of jobs are you going to create, Willy? We'd all like to know? :-D What happens when all the work needed is done? According Robert Reich, the Dems you voted for have dropped the ball on the economy. And the Republicans created the mess in the first place. It's kinda like they had a party and then expect the Democrats to clean up after it. Romney is all about job creation and that is what Americans are going to vote for. None of your economic ideas are going to be practical - like starting a revolution - that's not going to happen, since we already have a democracy. The last thing most American voters want is a revolt in the streets. Romney will never win as Americans won't vote for a cult member. Might as well run John Hagelin again. People want to make good money, not participate in a radical protest over the global profits of GE. You don't even take part in a tea-party protest! You're all hat, no cattle. Sure folks want a good income but if someone stands in their way they will eventually push them out of the way even if it takes a revolution. Wake up! The establishment is standing in our way. BTW Willy, serfs never were rich. Under normal circumstances, this would be the time for the federal government to take bold action to ward off a double dip. For example, it could put more cash in peoples' pockets while giving employers an extra incentive to hire by exempting the first $20,000 of earnings from payroll taxes, for a year or two... Read more: 'Back towards a US double-dip' By Robert Reich http://tinyurl.com/5sbj6gp And do so by getting rid of Republicans who also stand in the way. You need some smarts Willy. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
Romney is all about job creation and that is what Americans are going to vote for... Bhairitu: Romney will never win as Americans won't vote for a cult member. You're not making any sense. What would a candidate's faith have to do with U.S. job creation? Under normal circumstances, this would be the time for the federal government to take bold action to ward off a double dip. For example, it could put more cash in peoples' pockets while giving employers an extra incentive to hire by exempting the first $20,000 of earnings from payroll taxes, for a year or two... Read more: 'Back towards a US double-dip' By Robert Reich http://tinyurl.com/5sbj6gp
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
On another forum someone posted about today being a day to celebrate those who fought for liberty. I replied wars are for profit and revolutions for liberty... You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers who are behind the revolutions, not the parasites that pay no federal taxes. You mean the parasites like General Electric who pay no federal taxes? So, you're thinking that a company like GE, that creates jobs, would have a revolt by it's employees because the employees have to pay federal income tax? And it's the young we are motivating to revolution. What would your revolution slogan be? We pay no federal taxes and we want to pay even less? Or, We revolt because GE creates jobs that pay good money? Go figure. raunchydog: What jobs? GE has cut 20,000 American jobs over the previous decade. And now we have the U.S. government paying GE billions of dollars after that company makes billions in profit. GE has transformed from a major company working towards labor rights to a financial services conglomerate whose modern business plan has not benefited the average American. Go figure. I figure the unions have driven many companies to seek cheap labor overseas. Who wants to pay assembly workers $30 an hour plus benefits? I think the days of buying American are over - it's a global economy now. These are liberals like President Obama at work - there's no more 'American Business Patriotism' these days. It's looking like GE has taken control of the White House and some of our news media! It's not going to do any good to yell and scream and foment a 'revolution' like Bhairitu wants - just think about who you're voting for next time! We've got to understand there's a fundamental difference between the competitiveness of these companies and the competitiveness of America and American workers. - Robert Reich
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On 06/01/2011 10:39 AM, WillyTex wrote: I figure the unions have driven many companies to seek cheap labor overseas. Who wants to pay assembly workers $30 an hour plus benefits? I think the days of buying American are over - it's a global economy now. These are liberals like President Obama at work - there's no more 'American Business Patriotism' these days. It's looking like GE has taken control of the White House and some of our news media! It's not going to do any good to yell and scream and foment a 'revolution' like Bhairitu wants - just think about who you're voting for next time! We've got to understand there's a fundamental difference between the competitiveness of these companies and the competitiveness of America and American workers. - Robert Reich Willy really is all over the map isn't he? He's now quoting Robert Reich. Voting only an illusion any more. Your vote is manipulated. How many of us voted for change and didn't get it? Revolutions foment when you oppress the working class. That's what happened in Russia. People were working long hours and only to get part of a loaf of bread when wheat harvests were just fine. They had it with the oligarchs. And the oligarchs got their just desserts. Can it happen here? Hard to say but the shit is REALLY about to hit the fan. I was listening to reports over the weekend on MAINSTREAM media and if you could send those back in time a few years people wouldn't believe what they were hearing. Back then you were considered a kook if you suggested that we may be headed for a very bad depression. This is what I said here in 2006: I predict that the US is in for a big scale depression much that will make the Depression of the 1930's look like a Sunday picnic. It has to happen as the US lives on too high a standard of living to continue. We consume seven times the resources we should. There could have been a kind way to readjust the economy for this which I think was what was in mind at the end of the 1970's before Reagan came along and screwed things up. But so many Americans are just so spoiled and living in an illusion anyway the painful way will be good since it will wake them up. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/105401 Fast forward ahead to this article today on CNBC: Interest rates are amazingly low and that, thanks to Ben Bernanke, is driving everything, Yastrow said. We’re on the verge of a great, great depression. The [Federal Reserve] knows it. http://www.cnbc.com/id/43236764 Get ready to live in Third World Amerika. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Bhairitu: Your tax dollars at work... Oh my Gawd, a jet plane flew over and disturbed the liberal hippies in the park on Memorial Day. This is just outrageous!!! Police said the gang members are part of a group of more than 1,000 youths who have used social media sites like Facebook to plan unruly gatherings on the beach on three of the past four nights... 'Fights break out at Carson Beach' http://tinyurl.com/3nhasaj
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
Bhairitu: On another forum someone posted about today being a day to celebrate those who fought for liberty. I replied wars are for profit and revolutions for liberty... You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers who are behind the revolutions, not the parasites that pay no federal taxes. The anger that fueled the Arab Spring is now boiling over in Europe. Could club-wielding protesters be in America's future, too? http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/29/mad-as-hell.html
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On 05/31/2011 09:48 AM, WillyTex wrote: Bhairitu: On another forum someone posted about today being a day to celebrate those who fought for liberty. I replied wars are for profit and revolutions for liberty... You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers who are behind the revolutions, not the parasites that pay no federal taxes. You mean the parasites like General Electric who pay no federal taxes? Or the parasites who sit by their swimming pools and clip coupons and live on their dividends? Yup, you're probably right. And it's the young we are motivating to revolution. Otherwise they have no future.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On another forum someone posted about today being a day to celebrate those who fought for liberty. I replied wars are for profit and revolutions for liberty. Today on my way to the waterfront park I encountered a big crowd at the memorial where the street split about 2 miles from here. Usually at these there are about 20 people but today it looked like 200. Don't know why the big crowd and I doubt that locals suddenly got some sense of militarism. Maybe Congressman George Miller showed up and people wanted to yell at him to fix the economy (he is very anti-war). Then while walking at the park I hear what sounds like a jet and a low flying military jet transport flies overhead. There is an Air Force base about 20 miles away those fly in an out of. This one made a swing around the area where the memorial was and flew on. Then another flyby just as I was finishing my walk and flew on south. On the radio I heard people were calling in concerned but that it was a scheduled fly over for some of today's events. Your tax dollars at work. Van Halen - Dreams (Blue Angels Version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwi8m4SIejE
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
On another forum someone posted about today being a day to celebrate those who fought for liberty. I replied wars are for profit and revolutions for liberty... You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers who are behind the revolutions, not the parasites that pay no federal taxes. Bhairitu: You mean the parasites like General Electric who pay no federal taxes? So, you're thinking that a company like GE, that creates jobs, would have a revolt by it's employees because the employees have to pay federal income tax? And it's the young we are motivating to revolution. What would your revolution slogan be? We pay no federal taxes and we want to pay even less? Or, We revolt because GE creates jobs that pay good money? Go figure.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote: On another forum someone posted about today being a day to celebrate those who fought for liberty. I replied wars are for profit and revolutions for liberty... You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers who are behind the revolutions, not the parasites that pay no federal taxes. Bhairitu: You mean the parasites like General Electric who pay no federal taxes? So, you're thinking that a company like GE, that creates jobs, would have a revolt by it's employees because the employees have to pay federal income tax? And it's the young we are motivating to revolution. What would your revolution slogan be? We pay no federal taxes and we want to pay even less? Or, We revolt because GE creates jobs that pay good money? Go figure. What jobs? GE has cut 20,000 American jobs over the previous decade. And now we have the U.S. government paying GE billions of dollars after that company makes billions in profit. GE has transformed from a major company working towards labor rights to a financial services conglomerate whose modern business plan has not benefited the average American. Go figure. http://increaseourtaxes.com/the-political-economy-of-general-electric/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions. And occasionally a side order of General Tsao's Chicken, just to spice things up. Tom T: As someone mentioned at Satsang last week. On the one hand I know that I am the Self completely. On the other hand how come my life is a totaling f**king mess. Answer. Brahman is the fullness of life. You know that old 200% of life they promised. It ain't going to happen the way you thought it would. Get over it. Welcome to that truly unique view of the 200% of life. Enjoy Tom Or maybe someone who knows they are the Self completely isn't enlightened the way MMY was talking about? Maybe enlightenment isn't about know in the sense they are using the word? If they are enlightened, why are they worried enough about the f**king mess to even bother bringing it up? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions. And occasionally a side order of General Tsao's Chicken, just to spice things up. Tom T: As someone mentioned at Satsang last week. On the one hand I know that I am the Self completely. On the other hand how come my life is a totaling f**king mess. Answer. Brahman is the fullness of life. You know that old 200% of life they promised. It ain't going to happen the way you thought it would. Get over it. Welcome to that truly unique view of the 200% of life. Enjoy Tom Or maybe someone who knows they are the Self completely isn't enlightened the way MMY was talking about? Or maybe Maharishi is talking about these things based on his understanding of things he's been told, and is not actually enlightened himself. I'm only mentioning it because you never seem to consider this option. I certainly do. Maybe enlightenment isn't about know in the sense they are using the word? What else could it possibly be about? Scientific measurements? Those are as open to interpretation as any subjective experience. If they are enlightened, why are they worried enough about the f**king mess to even bother bringing it up? You obviously are under the impression that all your worldly problems are going to stop when you realize your enlightenment. I wish you good luck with that belief. :-) :-) :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions. And occasionally a side order of General Tsao's Chicken, just to spice things up. Tom T: As someone mentioned at Satsang last week. On the one hand I know that I am the Self completely. On the other hand how come my life is a totaling f**king mess. Answer. Brahman is the fullness of life. You know that old 200% of life they promised. It ain't going to happen the way you thought it would. Get over it. Welcome to that truly unique view of the 200% of life. Enjoy Tom Or maybe someone who knows they are the Self completely isn't enlightened the way MMY was talking about? Or maybe Maharishi is talking about these things based on his understanding of things he's been told, and is not actually enlightened himself. I'm only mentioning it because you never seem to consider this option. I certainly do. Maybe enlightenment isn't about know in the sense they are using the word? What else could it possibly be about? Scientific measurements? Those are as open to interpretation as any subjective experience. If they are enlightened, why are they worried enough about the f**king mess to even bother bringing it up? You obviously are under the impression that all your worldly problems are going to stop when you realize your enlightenment. I wish you good luck with that belief. :-) :-) :-) Based on my limited experience, there are no problems in enlightenment, just situations. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions. And occasionally a side order of General Tsao's Chicken, just to spice things up. Tom T: As someone mentioned at Satsang last week. On the one hand I know that I am the Self completely. On the other hand how come my life is a totaling f**king mess. Answer. Brahman is the fullness of life. You know that old 200% of life they promised. It ain't going to happen the way you thought it would. Get over it. Welcome to that truly unique view of the 200% of life. Enjoy Tom Or maybe someone who knows they are the Self completely isn't enlightened the way MMY was talking about? Or maybe Maharishi is talking about these things based on his understanding of things he's been told, and is not actually enlightened himself. I'm only mentioning it because you never seem to consider this option. I certainly do. Maybe enlightenment isn't about know in the sense they are using the word? What else could it possibly be about? Scientific measurements? Those are as open to interpretation as any subjective experience. Maybe it isn't about *intellectual* knowing but rather *experiential* knowing. If they are enlightened, why are they worried enough about the f**king mess to even bother bringing it up? You obviously are under the impression that all your worldly problems are going to stop when you realize your enlightenment. How odd that you would come to such a conclusion. As I read what Lawson said, he obviously is not under that impression at all. The operative phrase is worried enough about. I wish you good luck with that belief. :-) :-) :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Actually, Brahman Consciousness is a state of awareness and not a deity to worship or ponder. It is the state of freedom from referents. Therefore, to describe it as some 'thing' is a fallacy, and the condition of dualistic and occluded thinking. - Original Message - From: tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars TorquiseB writes snipped:Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far asI can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment,Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment,Chop Suey and contradictions. And occasionally a side order of General Tsao's Chicken, just to spice things up.Tom T:As someone mentioned at Satsang last week. On the one hand I know thatI am the Self completely. On the other hand how come my life is atotaling f**king mess. Answer. Brahman is the fullness of life. Youknow that old 200% of life they promised. It ain't going to happen theway you thought it would. Get over it. Welcome to that truly uniqueview of the 200% of life. Enjoy Tom Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arriveshttp://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM~- To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions. And occasionally a side order of General Tsao's Chicken, just to spice things up. Tom T: As someone mentioned at Satsang last week. On the one hand I know that I am the Self completely. On the other hand how come my life is a totaling f**king mess. Answer. Brahman is the fullness of life. You know that old 200% of life they promised. It ain't going to happen the way you thought it would. Get over it. Welcome to that truly unique view of the 200% of life. Enjoy Tom As we've all heard, there are stages to knowing anything- First comes the intellectual knowledge, such as the person who's life is a f**cking mess stated. Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated component of one's life, it has huge practical benefits. Sounds like the person who you refer to is not living 200% of life. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated component of one's life, it has huge practical benefits. Sounds like the person who you refer to is not living 200% of life. Maharishi lives 1,000,000% of life and yet, he is still living a fucked up life. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated component of one's life, it has huge practical benefits. Sounds like the person who you refer to is not living 200% of life. Maharishi lives 1,000,000% of life and yet, he is still living a fucked up life. now that's a bold statement. Can you back it up? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated component of one's life, it has huge practical benefits. Sounds like the person who you refer to is not living 200% of life. Maharishi lives 1,000,000% of life and yet, he is still living a fucked up life. now that's a bold statement. Can you back it up? This fellow knows absolutely nothing about himself, why presume he knows anything about a saint ? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars on 6/14/06 1:52 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This fellow knows absolutely nothing about himself, why presume he knows anything about a saint ? How are you in a position to know what he knows about himself? And do you know everything there is to know about MMY? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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He can't openly have sex for fear it will destroy his popular image, he does not have the open recognition of his peers, his megalomaniacal disposition speaks volumns about his state of mind, and then he rants showing discontent, and then recants showing his great compassion, all thus showing much inner conflict. We can only judge him based on his tendencies, not based on our own experience. He is exiled from his beloved Bharat. That alone is enough to prove that he simply cannot be a happy man in spite of his millions. And the very worst thing is that he has no companion who is not a servant. That alone is a horrible thing. What sort of communion can he have? Finally he has destroyed his own institution and people are making of him a fool. You know that mustjust kill him. This is all conjecture or inference. I don't know a thing. My main point is that for all his alleged liberation he is still bound hand and foot. More bound than a poor hobo. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated component of one's life, it has huge practical benefits. Sounds like the person who you refer to is not living 200% of life. Maharishi lives 1,000,000% of life and yet, he is still living a fucked up life.now that's a bold statement. Can you back it up? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how.http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM~- To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars on 6/14/06 1:52 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This fellow knows absolutely nothing about himself, why presume he knows anything about a saint ? How are you in a position to know what he knows about himself? And do you know everything there is to know about MMY? I was quite thankful to be let off the hook like that. Please don't make me be responsible now. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
And do you know everything there is to know about MMY? Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about who He really is. What I do know, is that He is a Blazing light of Brahman Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars on 6/14/06 3:16 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And do you know everything there is to know about MMY? Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about who He really is. What I do know, is that He is a Blazing light of Brahman I agree with that, and have similar experience with him. We probably know each other. But on a relative level, theres some screwy shit about him that takes some doing to come to terms with. I guess we can classify that under the paradox of Brahman. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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The enigma part is okay to my mind, but the blazing light of Brahman part seems as if it's a conditioned response. It may be true, or it may not be. If he is a blazing light of brahman then one would never be able to tell, because Brahman has no observable characteristics. In point of fact, a person in Brahman will not show any specific qualities that one can even identify, or they are merely an ordinary person, and if they are manifesting things that can be conceptualized which seem amazing then they are merely a common person with some sidhis. If a teacher seems to makee one think all kinds of whacky things and always concept after concept, then they are emphatically not a teacher of Brahman. A teacher of Brahman is a very boring individual who one needs sticks in their eyes to stay awake near. because they are telling one nothing new, they are saying nothing which needs to be said. - Original Message - From: nablus108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars And do you know everything there is to know about MMY?Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about who He really is.What I do know, is that He is a "Blazing light of Brahman" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free.http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM~- To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He can't openly have sex for fear it will destroy his popular image, he does not have the open recognition of his peers, his megalomaniacal disposition speaks volumns about his state of mind, and then he rants showing discontent, and then recants showing his great compassion, all thus showing much inner conflict. We can only judge him based on his tendencies, not based on our own experience. He is exiled from his beloved Bharat. That alone is enough to prove that he simply cannot be a happy man in spite of his millions. And the very worst thing is that he has no companion who is not a servant. That alone is a horrible thing. What sort of communion can he have? Finally he has destroyed his own institution and people are making of him a fool. You know that must just kill him. This is all conjecture or inference. I don't know a thing. So if you think this of Maharishi, what say you about Shiva? My main point is that for all his alleged liberation he is still bound hand and foot. More bound than a poor hobo. well, it does sound as if Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And do you know everything there is to know about MMY? Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about who He really is. ...but of one thing you can agree on, He Really IS. heh heh heh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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So if you think this of Maharishi, what say you about Shiva? I love Shiva. Alway have always will. If there is a power of the divine to manifest then it is of Shiva. Of course if there is a power of the divine to manifest it is of Mahakali. Will always have always. I love Mahakali. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you think this of Maharishi, what say you about Shiva? I love Shiva. Alway have always will. If there is a power of the divine to manifest then it is of Shiva. Of course if there is a power of the divine to manifest it is of Mahakali. Will always have always. I love Mahakali. Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate?---Shiva has never given blessings to take them away. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate?---Moreover Shiva ia an ascetic, or naked awareness deva, and has no considerations of relative things. One can nap in shit, or live in a castle, it is all the same to Shiva. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate? ---Moreover Shiva ia an ascetic, or naked awareness deva, and has no considerations of relative things. One can nap in shit, or live in a castle, it is all the same to Shiva. Fair enough, so why is your earlier description of Maharishi's 'fucked up' life inconsistent with this? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate? ---Moreover Shiva ia an ascetic, or naked awareness deva, and has no considerations of relative things. One can nap in shit, or live in a castle, it is all the same to Shiva.Fair enough, so why is your earlier description of Maharishi's 'fucked up' life inconsistent with this?--I was merely offering consolation to the person who said their life was all fucked up. I was saying, 'nobody's perfect!' That's all! But that said, I don't get your question. You related Maharishi to Shiva. I didn't. I said the opposite. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design.http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM~- To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
Dude, consistency is your hangup, not mine. :-) It's *you* who seems unable to conceive of holding multiple points of view on a subject. If you remember, it was you who seemed to believe that what we wrote in the posts quoted below somehow implied that Bhairitu and I didn't feel compassion for the soldiers who fight and die, or that we were ragging on veterans. Of course I feel compassion for them. AND at the same time I believe that each and every one of them who agreed to fight and die in some political leader's war did their part to perpetuate war. AND, not OR. There's a difference in Search Engines, and there's a difference in real life. :-) But even though my points of view in this case aren't really contradictory, I have a few that are. Is that a problem for you? Do you really not have any contradictory beliefs and points of view in your life? I'm really not trying to give you a hard time here, even though you certainly seemed to be trying to give me one. I'm trying to explain something to you, a certain fluidity that can exist in terms of self. Many, if not most people believe that they have a personality, a self. I really don't believe that. We have millions of them. Remember the olde saying, Know thyself? Rama's version of that was Know thyselves. It made sense around him. For whatever reason (and I really still don't *have* a reason to offer to you), being in his energy field flipped you in and out of different selves faster than shit through a goose. You'd flip back and forth between 20 or 30 completely different states of attention in a day. Each of these states of atten- tion had its own self, and each of those selves had its own mode of perception and its own point of view. Contradictions were encountered frequently. So in such a situation, do you hold on to the traditional notions of one self, one personality? Or do you get a bit more fluid with things and not worry so damned much about contradictions? I think it is safe to say I went the latter route. I have no *problem* with contradictions. You keep homing in on them as if you want me *to* have a problem with contradictions. It's just not gonna happen, dude. Lighten up. Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions. And occasionally a side order of General Tsao's Chicken, just to spice things up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quotes from FFL Observers [Commments and implied statements in brackets] Believe me nobody ever died fighting for our [their country's] freedom. Instead they fought to keep the rich rich and the poor poor. They fought the wars as pawns for the rich. The rich could give a damn about our freedom, instead just theirs to keep counting their money. When will we learn? The vast majority of them [including French in WW II it would appear] fought and died because they were told to and had so little imagination that it never occurred to them that they could say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid business of war. In other words, the 'honor the fallen dead' thang is just an extension of the German Ve ver just followink orders excuse for not owning up to their part in WWII[The French and British virtually created WWII with their intensely harsh termsdemanded in the Treaty of Versaille] . If you praise the soldiers who said YES to an insane war, and absolve them of any respon- sibility for that war because they were just being noble and doing what they were told by their bad leaders, then the people who sat by quietly and paid their taxes and *enabled* the war started by those bad leaders also share no responisibility for it. War is a kind of codependency. Every time you say YES to some leader who wants a war and agree to go fight it or agree to pay for it, you are *assisting* that leader in perpetuating war. As I said, there will always be leaders who want war; in the long run, the only thing that will stop them is people saying NO -- both to fighting the wars and to paying for them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's real easy for Americans to sit on their fat asses and criticize those countries who have actually had wars fought on their own territory. ... As far as war goes, they're [Americans] pussies. They have never had the experience of seeing what war is like first-hand, happening in your own streets and to your own loved ones, right in front of you. They think that war is what they read in newspapers and see on newsreels. If they had actually experienced the reality of past wars first-hand, they might not be so willing to start new ones. I live with people who lost every male member of their family in those first few days of World War II. They have a slightly different
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars
TorquiseB writes snipped: Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions. And occasionally a side order of General Tsao's Chicken, just to spice things up. Tom T: As someone mentioned at Satsang last week. On the one hand I know that I am the Self completely. On the other hand how come my life is a totaling f**king mess. Answer. Brahman is the fullness of life. You know that old 200% of life they promised. It ain't going to happen the way you thought it would. Get over it. Welcome to that truly unique view of the 200% of life. Enjoy Tom Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars in History have resulted from..... MMY
-Original Message wmurphy77" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:10:51 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] "Wars in History have resulted from." MMY "Wars in History have resulted from the cumulative effect ofaggression on the innocent..(Saddam Hussien against Iran, Kuwait the Kurds and others). ...individuals continue to oppress others not knowing that aggressionis growing in the atmosphere eventually to break upon them as their own disaster." (The Gulf war and its finale, 'desert storm'.) MMY Gita Chapter I vs 13. Hari Om, 1, The state of Judea was partitioned under British rule into Israel and Palastine and was over-seen by the British. 2, Kuwait is an artificial state created by the British. The state of Mesopotomia was partitioned into Iraq and Kuwait by the British to keep control over Kuwait's oil. 3, The whole of middle-east was under the Ottoman empire. The British used Indian-army to push the Turks out of middle-east. 20,000 Indian soldiers died in that operation. 4, Wholistic India was partitioned into India, Pakistan, SriLanka, and Burma under the British over-lordship. 100,000 people died in the partition riots. 120,000 women were raped during partition riots. 5, Britain, partitioned China and Taiwan which was formerly known as Formosa. The problem continues even today. 6, Britain, Split South-Africa and Zimbawe to create disunity. Jason - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
