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I like this part the best: After they signed, then we'd take the signed papers, get off the bus and push it over the edge anyway, and then redistribute the funds. Hee hee! And I didn't know he was doing a film about Frankie - I wonder what kind of portrayal he'll give? I once read something about him that said he loved and admired mobsters - he once told friends that he'd rather be a bag man for the mafia than a big shot entertainer. And these are the people our society glorifies. On Tue, 1/21/14, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 1:58 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd ride with 'em, I ain't prejudiced agin rich folk. Personally, I suspect that the planet would be better off if we managed to get all 85 of these people on one bus, and then threatened them with driving the bus off a cliff with them on it unless they signed over all of their money to the poor people they fucked over to get it. After they signed, then we'd take the signed papers, get off the bus and push it over the edge anyway, and then redistribute the funds. But that may just be how I feel today, after having been forced to sit through The Wolf Of Wall Street. I now completely agree with everything said in the open letter written by Christina McDowell, daughter of one of the real-life scumbags who worked with the real-life Jordan Belfort. I think that Martin Scorcese, Leonardo DiCaprio, and all of the other producers who glorified greed and immorality in this film should be sentenced to spend the rest of their lives doing community service by making movies about the little people these real-life scumbags ripped off, and whose lives they ruined. Those of you who mouth off about misogyny, you really haven't even *seen* misogyny until you've seen this movie. There is not a woman in the film who isn't portrayed as a bimbo, a hooker, and just one more rube to be fucked and fucked over. I literally had to take a shower after watching it. The experience made me rethink Martin Scorcese's work as a whole. Yes, he has made the occasional film that *doesn't* celebrate greed, corruption, and misogyny (although the only ones I can think of right now are Hugo, The Last Temptation of Christ, and Kundun), but those subjects have been the focus of and the preoccupation of almost *all* of his other films. Only 3 films as a director out of 55 *not* about slimeballs. And his next film is going to be about Frank Sinatra. What a fuckin' waste of creative talents. On Tue, 1/21/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 8:19 AM According to a recent OXFAM report the 85 people who own *half of the planet's wealth* could all fit onto this bus: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/17/oxfam-bus-wealth_n_4616103.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus?
Ann, I agree that there's an instinct to survive. But I don't think there's an instinct to survive in style, as you say. I think anything beyond basic survival needs is conditioned into us by the people and circumstances of our childhood. Remember the significance of Rosebud in Citizen Kane? Of course we're also hugely conditioned by our culture and this conditioning, from what I've read, spreads to the remotest corners of the earth via TV, etc. Supposedly Dallas was one of the most popular shows in Saudia Arabia! I think it's a matter of degree. I would wish for everyone on earth to have their basic needs met and even be comfortable. But I've seen pictures of solid gold doors in Dubai. Does someone really need a solid gold door to their house in order to be comfortable?! I admit I don't understand how such an imbalance continues decade after decade. There are people who collect very expensive cars for a hobby. And there are babies starving to death every day. I don't understand how this continues. On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:22 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd ride with 'em, I ain't prejudiced agin rich folk. Personally, I suspect that the planet would be better off if we managed to get all 85 of these people on one bus, and then threatened them with driving the bus off a cliff with them on it unless they signed over all of their money to the poor people they fucked over to get it. After they signed, then we'd take the signed papers, get off the bus and push it over the edge anyway, and then redistribute the funds. I love the we part. As if the average human being wouldn't pocket the ransacked money and make off with it themselves. Rich or poor, the basic instinct is to survive and to survive in style. Those who claim they wouldn't love an extra $1,000,000 in the bank are fooling themselves. Granted, many are loathe to cheat and steal their way to accessing this and many would consider a billion dollars a little unnecessary but greed, avarice and the love of the good life is, to some extent, in all of us. Take a guy like Leonardo in his role as the Wolf, take away his gazillions and he'd still be the loan shark, the pimp or the drug dealer clawing his way toward his idea of fame and fortune. You don't have to be rich to embody all sorts of loathsome traits. But that may just be how I feel today, after having been forced to sit through The Wolf Of Wall Street. I now completely agree with everything said in the open letter written by Christina McDowell, daughter of one of the real-life scumbags who worked with the real-life Jordan Belfort. I think that Martin Scorcese, Leonardo DiCaprio, and all of the other producers who glorified greed and immorality in this film should be sentenced to spend the rest of their lives doing community service by making movies about the little people these real-life scumbags ripped off, and whose lives they ruined. Those of you who mouth off about misogyny, you really haven't even *seen* misogyny until you've seen this movie. There is not a woman in the film who isn't portrayed as a bimbo, a hooker, and just one more rube to be fucked and fucked over. I literally had to take a shower after watching it. The experience made me rethink Martin Scorcese's work as a whole. Yes, he has made the occasional film that *doesn't* celebrate greed, corruption, and misogyny (although the only ones I can think of right now are Hugo, The Last Temptation of Christ, and Kundun), but those subjects have been the focus of and the preoccupation of almost *all* of his other films. Only 3 films as a director out of 55 *not* about slimeballs. And his next film is going to be about Frank Sinatra. What a fuckin' waste of creative talents. I could tell this film was worth a big miss by watching 2 minutes of the trailer. It looked like an indulgent mess on everyone's part. On Tue, 1/21/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 8:19 AM According to a recent OXFAM report the 85 people who own *half of the planet's wealth* could all fit onto this bus: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/17/oxfam-bus-wealth_n_4616103.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus?
Well, obviously there is virtue and there is vice and there are our spiritual practices of discipline to free the soul of the indentations of the subtle system created of vice. Some people are brought up badly. Fortunate though are those whom have good teachers who know better and can give spiritual help to others. Service to others is the great virtue as it undoes vice. Seek good company. Do good. Come to a group transcending meditation near you. So says the science. The whole purpose of life is to gain enlightenment. Nothing else is significant compared to that completely natural, exalted state of consciousness. So always strive for that. Set your life around that goal. Don't get caught up in small things, and then it will be yours. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
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Spiritual Warfare Begins Within, In Field Effect of consciousness. As much as for just purely Selfish reasons, Being good communitarians and good citizens we all should be going to nearby group meditations to join with others in group transcending meditation, so the science says. Numbers and proximity do matter to everyone's spiritual well-being, so the science says. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck. wrote: Well, obviously there is virtue and there is vice and there are our spiritual practices of discipline to free the soul of the indentations of the subtle system created of vice. Some people are brought up badly. Fortunate though are those whom have good teachers who know better and can give spiritual help to others. Service to others is the great virtue as it undoes vice. Seek good company. Do good. Come to a group transcending meditation near you. So says the science. The whole purpose of life is to gain enlightenment. Nothing else is significant compared to that completely natural, exalted state of consciousness. So always strive for that. Set your life around that goal. Don't get caught up in small things, and then it will be yours. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I agree that there's an instinct to survive. But I don't think there's an instinct to survive in style, as you say. I think anything beyond basic survival needs is conditioned into us by the people and circumstances of our childhood. Remember the significance of Rosebud in Citizen Kane? Of course we're also hugely conditioned by our culture and this conditioning, from what I've read, spreads to the remotest corners of the earth via TV, etc. Supposedly Dallas was one of the most popular shows in Saudia Arabia! I am not sure about the conditioning aspect with regard to wanting that little bit of style. I have lived in converted (barely) garages, I have lived in basement suites with no natural light, I have lived in mouse-infested and rat-infested temporary hovels and virtual shacks for one reason or another at various times (one of those times was when we were building our current house and we lived in the small 1935 hut/house for 16 months). Believe me, I have experienced some pretty basic living conditions in the US and in Canada (including the most cockroach-infested apartment on the second floor of the one of the buildings around the square in FF during the late 70's.) And while I don't require solid gold doors, hardwood instead of old lino floors is nice, glass instead of plastic cups is preferable and a toilet that is not stained brown and flushes properly is my choice, in a pinch. We are talking about relative degrees here, not so much absurd levels where someone feels anything less than four houses and three yachts is unthinkable. Style can simply mean aesthetic over bare minimum. I think it's a matter of degree. I would wish for everyone on earth to have their basic needs met and even be comfortable. But I've seen pictures of solid gold doors in Dubai. Does someone really need a solid gold door to their house in order to be comfortable?! You are actually reinforcing my point with your examples: people tend to spiral toward absurdity, toward more and toward better and a level of consumption that can begin to border on obscene. And we are not simply talking about the rich, we are talking about the guy in Dubai (your example) or the kid on the streets of some tough city whose idea of heaven is owning a big car and wearing lots of gold jewelry and might do just about anything to obtain those things. I admit I don't understand how such an imbalance continues decade after decade. There are people who collect very expensive cars for a hobby. And there are babies starving to death every day. I don't understand how this continues. Because it appears to be human nature, or at least the nature of a fairly large percentage of humans. MMY talked about this, we tend to move in the direction of greater and greater happiness and bliss, like little monkeys. It's just that for many, this idea of bliss is in the form of collecting and surrounding themselves with more and more stuff. And we haven't even touched on the subject of the power hungry. On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:22 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd ride with 'em, I ain't prejudiced agin rich folk. Personally, I suspect that the planet would be better off if we managed to get all 85 of these people on one bus, and then threatened them with driving the bus off a cliff with them on it unless they signed over all of their money to the poor people they fucked over to get it. After they signed, then we'd take the signed papers, get off the bus and push it over the edge anyway, and then redistribute the funds. I love the we part. As if the average human being wouldn't pocket the ransacked money and make off with it themselves. Rich or poor, the basic instinct is to survive and to survive in style. Those who claim they wouldn't love an extra $1,000,000 in the bank are fooling themselves. Granted, many are loathe to cheat and steal their way to accessing this and many would consider a billion dollars a little unnecessary but greed, avarice and the love of the good life is, to some extent, in all of us. Take a guy like Leonardo in his role as the Wolf, take away his gazillions and he'd still be the loan shark, the pimp or the drug dealer clawing his way toward his idea of fame and fortune. You don't have to be rich to embody all sorts of loathsome traits. But that may just be how I feel today, after having been forced to sit through The Wolf Of Wall Street. I now completely agree with everything said in the open letter http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2013/12/26/an-open-letter-to-the-makers-of-the-wolf-of-wall-street-and-the-wolf-himself written by Christina McDowell, daughter of one of the real-life scumbags who worked with the real-life Jordan Belfort.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus?
And this is why some folks didn't get what I meant by using the term scam the other day with reference to people in Silicon Valley. It's been very interesting to watch (as well as be part of) the excesses of wealth in the area where VC's (also known as Vulture Capitalists by the old timers) throw money at startups. One con game that is popular here is 1) putting together some wild idea and then 2) getting the VC's to invest in it, 3) folding the company when the VC funding runs out and then go back to step 1 again and repeat the process. Occasionally one of the wild ideas does take off at which point a really big company will come along and buy it out. Regarding the rich, I did know a couple of children of an old money family. Before they were allowed access to their trusts they had to go out and prove that they knew the value of money by supporting themselves. True, this was a very liberal family line and pro the people. I suspect the conservative rich raise their kids to be pirates and to rape and plunder. On 01/21/2014 08:30 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I agree that there's an instinct to survive. But I don't think there's an instinct to survive in style, as you say. I think anything beyond basic survival needs is conditioned into us by the people and circumstances of our childhood. Remember the significance of Rosebud in Citizen Kane? Of course we're also hugely conditioned by our culture and this conditioning, from what I've read, spreads to the remotest corners of the earth via TV, etc. Supposedly Dallas was one of the most popular shows in Saudia Arabia! I am not sure about the conditioning aspect with regard to wanting that little bit of style. I have lived in converted (barely) garages, I have lived in basement suites with no natural light, I have lived in mouse-infested and rat-infested temporary hovels and virtual shacks for one reason or another at various times (one of those times was when we were building our current house and we lived in the small 1935 hut/house for 16 months). Believe me, I have experienced some pretty basic living conditions in the US and in Canada (including the most cockroach-infested apartment on the second floor of the one of the buildings around the square in FF during the late 70's.) And while I don't require solid gold doors, hardwood instead of old lino floors is nice, glass instead of plastic cups is preferable and a toilet that is not stained brown and flushes properly is my choice, in a pinch. We are talking about relative degrees here, not so much absurd levels where someone feels anything less than four houses and three yachts is unthinkable. Style can simply mean aesthetic over bare minimum. I think it's a matter of degree. I would wish for everyone on earth to have their basic needs met and even be comfortable. But I've seen pictures of solid gold doors in Dubai. Does someone really need a solid gold door to their house in order to be comfortable?! You are actually reinforcing my point with your examples: people tend to spiral toward absurdity, toward more and toward better and a level of consumption that can begin to border on obscene. And we are not simply talking about the rich, we are talking about the guy in Dubai (your example) or the kid on the streets of some tough city whose idea of heaven is owning a big car and wearing lots of gold jewelry and might do just about anything to obtain those things. I admit I don't understand how such an imbalance continues decade after decade. There are people who collect very expensive cars for a hobby. And there are babies starving to death every day. I don't understand how this continues. Because it appears to be human nature, or at least the nature of a fairly large percentage of humans. MMY talked about this, we tend to move in the direction of greater and greater happiness and bliss, like little monkeys. It's just that for many, this idea of bliss is in the form of collecting and surrounding themselves with more and more stuff. And we haven't even touched on the subject of the power hungry. On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:22 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd ride with 'em, I ain't prejudiced agin rich folk. */Personally, I suspect that the planet would be better off if we managed to get all 85 of these people on one bus, and then threatened them with driving the bus off a cliff with them on it unless they signed over all of their money to the poor people they fucked over to get it. After they signed, then we'd take the signed papers, get off the bus and push it over the edge anyway, and then redistribute the funds. /* */ /* *I love the we part. As if the average human
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Oh, but that would be taking other people's money which we all know they worked so hard for.:-D Actually I suspect Scorsese probably would say he got his desired effect with you. I haven't seen the film yet as I relegated it to the BD rental phase. You are not alone in your reaction to the Oxfram study (which I posted here yesterday) as I heard several radio commentators say the same thing. Just take their money and redistribute it. As I see it the the rich, like dogs, have so soiled their capitalist beds that the penalty should be global socialism for the next 400 years. Doesn't have to be mean, authoritarian or totalitarian. Could be very transcendental and pleasant. But looking at the weather, the coming drought and famine there might not be anyone around in 40 years let alone 400. On 01/21/2014 05:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd ride with 'em, I ain't prejudiced agin rich folk. */Personally, I suspect that the planet would be better off if we managed to get all 85 of these people on one bus, and then threatened them with driving the bus off a cliff with them on it unless they signed over all of their money to the poor people they fucked over to get it. After they signed, then we'd take the signed papers, get off the bus and push it over the edge anyway, and then redistribute the funds. But that may just be how I feel today, after having been forced to sit through The Wolf Of Wall Street. I now completely agree with everything said in the open letter http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2013/12/26/an-open-letter-to-the-makers-of-the-wolf-of-wall-street-and-the-wolf-himself written by /**/Christina McDowell, daughter of one of the real-life scumbags who worked with the real-life Jordan Belfort. I think that Martin Scorcese, Leonardo DiCaprio, and all of the other producers who glorified greed and immorality in this film should be sentenced to spend the rest of their lives doing community service by making movies about the little people these real-life scumbags ripped off, and whose lives they ruined. Those of you who mouth off about misogyny, you really haven't even *seen* misogyny until you've seen this movie. There is not a woman in the film who isn't portrayed as a bimbo, a hooker, and just one more rube to be fucked and fucked over. I literally had to take a shower after watching it. The experience made me rethink Martin Scorcese's work as a whole. Yes, he has made the occasional film that *doesn't* celebrate greed, corruption, and misogyny (although the only ones I can think of right now are Hugo, The Last Temptation of Christ, and Kundun), but those subjects have been the focus of and the preoccupation of almost *all* of his other films. Only 3 films as a director out of 55 *not* about slimeballs. And his next film is going to be about Frank Sinatra. What a fuckin' waste of creative talents. /* On Tue, 1/21/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 8:19 AM According to a recent OXFAM report the 85 people who own *half of the planet's wealth* could all fit onto this bus: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/17/oxfam-bus-wealth_n_4616103.html
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noozguru, not to be too persnickity but I just saw on the weather report this morning that there is already drought in California. And no rain in the long range forecast! I'm beginning to suspect that *the powers that be* are using Super Bowls and Golden Globe Awards, etc. to distract the masses from the reality that we're schtooked! On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:19 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Oh, but that would be taking other people's money which we all know they worked so hard for.:-D Actually I suspect Scorsese probably would say he got his desired effect with you. I haven't seen the film yet as I relegated it to the BD rental phase. You are not alone in your reaction to the Oxfram study (which I posted here yesterday) as I heard several radio commentators say the same thing. Just take their money and redistribute it. As I see it the the rich, like dogs, have so soiled their capitalist beds that the penalty should be global socialism for the next 400 years. Doesn't have to be mean, authoritarian or totalitarian. Could be very transcendental and pleasant. But looking at the weather, the coming drought and famine there might not be anyone around in 40 years let alone 400. On 01/21/2014 05:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd ride with 'em, I ain't prejudiced agin rich folk. Personally, I suspect that the planet would be better off if we managed to get all 85 of these people on one bus, and then threatened them with driving the bus off a cliff with them on it unless they signed over all of their money to the poor people they fucked over to get it. After they signed, then we'd take the signed papers, get off the bus and push it over the edge anyway, and then redistribute the funds. But that may just be how I feel today, after having been forced to sit through The Wolf Of Wall Street. I now completely agree with everything said in the open letter written by Christina McDowell, daughter of one of the real-life scumbags who worked with the real-life Jordan Belfort. I think that Martin Scorcese, Leonardo DiCaprio, and all of the other producers who glorified greed and immorality in this film should be sentenced to spend the rest of their lives doing community service by making movies about the little people these real-life scumbags ripped off, and whose lives they ruined. Those of you who mouth off about misogyny, you really haven't even *seen* misogyny until you've seen this movie. There is not a woman in the film who isn't portrayed as a bimbo, a hooker, and just one more rube to be fucked and fucked over. I literally had to take a shower after watching it. The experience made me rethink Martin Scorcese's work as a whole. Yes, he has made the occasional film that *doesn't* celebrate greed, corruption, and misogyny (although the only ones I can think of right now are Hugo, The Last Temptation of Christ, and Kundun), but those subjects have been the focus of and the preoccupation of almost *all* of his other films. Only 3 films as a director out of 55 *not* about slimeballs. And his next film is going to be about Frank Sinatra. What a fuckin' waste of creative talents. On Tue, 1/21/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 8:19 AM According to a recent OXFAM report the 85 people who own *half of the planet's wealth* could all fit onto this bus: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/17/oxfam-bus-wealth_n_4616103.html
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The drought is a big topic in California. Just listened to a SF talk show where it was the topic. Again this is being called climate disruption now by the climate scientists. And we have been getting delayed rain in years past. Someone even mentioned on the talk show that the almanac says Feb and Mar will wet. Problems with a drought compared to last big one in the late 1970s is that back then people might have been able to afford to do plumbing and things to help. Now many are squeaking by and won't be able to do things like that this round. So it goes. On 01/21/2014 09:52 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, not to be too persnickity but I just saw on the weather report this morning that there is already drought in California. And no rain in the long range forecast! I'm beginning to suspect that *the powers that be* are using Super Bowls and Golden Globe Awards, etc. to distract the masses from the reality that we're schtooked! On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:19 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Oh, but that would be taking other people's money which we all know they worked so hard for.:-D Actually I suspect Scorsese probably would say he got his desired effect with you. I haven't seen the film yet as I relegated it to the BD rental phase. You are not alone in your reaction to the Oxfram study (which I posted here yesterday) as I heard several radio commentators say the same thing. Just take their money and redistribute it. As I see it the the rich, like dogs, have so soiled their capitalist beds that the penalty should be global socialism for the next 400 years. Doesn't have to be mean, authoritarian or totalitarian. Could be very transcendental and pleasant. But looking at the weather, the coming drought and famine there might not be anyone around in 40 years let alone 400. On 01/21/2014 05:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd ride with 'em, I ain't prejudiced agin rich folk. */Personally, I suspect that the planet would be better off if we managed to get all 85 of these people on one bus, and then threatened them with driving the bus off a cliff with them on it unless they signed over all of their money to the poor people they fucked over to get it. After they signed, then we'd take the signed papers, get off the bus and push it over the edge anyway, and then redistribute the funds. But that may just be how I feel today, after having been forced to sit through The Wolf Of Wall Street. I now completely agree with everything said in the open letter http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2013/12/26/an-open-letter-to-the-makers-of-the-wolf-of-wall-street-and-the-wolf-himself written by /**/Christina McDowell, daughter of one of the real-life scumbags who worked with the real-life Jordan Belfort. I think that Martin Scorcese, Leonardo DiCaprio, and all of the other producers who glorified greed and immorality in this film should be sentenced to spend the rest of their lives doing community service by making movies about the little people these real-life scumbags ripped off, and whose lives they ruined. Those of you who mouth off about misogyny, you really haven't even *seen* misogyny until you've seen this movie. There is not a woman in the film who isn't portrayed as a bimbo, a hooker, and just one more rube to be fucked and fucked over. I literally had to take a shower after watching it. The experience made me rethink Martin Scorcese's work as a whole. Yes, he has made the occasional film that *doesn't* celebrate greed, corruption, and misogyny (although the only ones I can think of right now are Hugo, The Last Temptation of Christ, and Kundun), but those subjects have been the focus of and the preoccupation of almost *all* of his other films. Only 3 films as a director out of 55 *not* about slimeballs. And his next film is going to be about Frank Sinatra. What a fuckin' waste of creative talents. /* On Tue, 1/21/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 8:19 AM According to a recent OXFAM report the 85 people who own *half of the planet's wealth* could all fit onto this bus: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/17/oxfam-bus-wealth_n_4616103.html
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wouldn't the rains come in time if all the yogic frawg hoppers went to Cali and did their sleeping - er, I mean their program out there in the dry spots? On Tue, 1/21/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New meaning for Kesey's Are you on the bus or off the bus? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 7:07 PM The drought is a big topic in California. Just listened to a SF talk show where it was the topic. Again this is being called climate disruption now by the climate scientists. And we have been getting delayed rain in years past. Someone even mentioned on the talk show that the almanac says Feb and Mar will wet. Problems with a drought compared to last big one in the late 1970s is that back then people might have been able to afford to do plumbing and things to help. Now many are squeaking by and won't be able to do things like that this round. So it goes. On 01/21/2014 09:52 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, not to be too persnickity but I just saw on the weather report this morning that there is already drought in California. And no rain in the long range forecast! I'm beginning to suspect that *the powers that be* are using Super Bowls and Golden Globe Awards, etc. to distract the masses from the reality that we're schtooked! On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:19 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Oh, but that would be taking other people's money which we all know they worked so hard for. :-D Actually I suspect Scorsese probably would say he got his desired effect with you. I haven't seen the film yet as I relegated it to the BD rental phase. You are not alone in your reaction to the Oxfram study (which I posted here yesterday) as I heard several radio commentators say the same thing. Just take their money and redistribute it. As I see it the the rich, like dogs, have so soiled their capitalist beds that the penalty should be global socialism for the next 400 years. Doesn't have to be mean, authoritarian or totalitarian. Could be very transcendental and pleasant. But looking at the weather, the coming drought and famine there might not be anyone around in 40 years let alone 400. On 01/21/2014 05:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I'd ride with 'em, I ain't prejudiced agin rich folk. Personally, I suspect that the planet
