RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
To paraphrase a Japanese poet: Such piercing chill I feel My dead guru's sandal at his altar under my heel heh heh Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jim_flanegin Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become Someone oughta remind folks *who are interested* (and *only* those who are interested...) that a piercing intellect is a requirement for Enlightenment...Even Byron Katie would agree.:-) Maybe, but Trotaka didnt have one, and I once heard MMY tell Charlie Donahue that all this logic and exactness could just be a symptom of stress. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jim_flanegin Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become Someone oughta remind folks *who are interested* (and *only* those who are interested...) that a piercing intellect is a requirement for Enlightenment...Even Byron Katie would agree.:-) Maybe, but Trotaka didn’t have one, and I once heard MMY tell Charlie Donahue that “all this logic and exactness could just be a symptom of stress.” No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:14 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Lurk, I missed Cliff Rees (not spelled Reese?) posting here? He was a very interesting movement guy if it was the same guy I knew. What posts can you direct me to? I would like to read his perspective on his movement life if he posted it. I forwarded this to Cliff. Does the search function in Yahoo groups let you search by the poster’s ID? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
--- lurkernomore20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "curtisdeltablues" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Lurk, > I missed Cliff Rees (not spelled Reese?) posting > here? He was a very > interesting movement guy if it was the same guy I > knew. What posts > can you direct me to? I would like to read his > perspective on his > movement life if he posted it. > > Cliff was well traveled, and had the opportunity to > rise into the > higher echelons of TMO because of his business > dealings. So, he > always had plenty of good stories to share in this > regard. His handle > was Cliffthedancer, and as well, he always had some > fun stories to > share about his personal life. He also served well > as a reality > check, and could come down hard on either side of > the divide, > political or otherwise. Perhaps it was in this > regard that he ran > into interference with Judy. > > I think some the frustration with Judy is that many > come to FFL for > some easy banter, interesting discussion, venting, > and Judy comes with > her game face on. Not to say that Judy can't show a > lighter side, > (she does have a good dry sense of humor IMO), but > the discussion can > pretty quickly ramp up to a level that squeezes out > the fun. > > lurk Lurk, you are such a liar. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:06 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become > You know, we lost Cliff Rees. That was a loss. He said he > couldn't tolerate Judy. Those who think I "drove Cliff out" should go back and reread our exchanges. What *actually* happened was that he decided to start beating up on me, and I fought back. He wasn't used to getting at least as good as he was giving--especially, I suspect, from a woman--and *that's* what he couldn't tolerate. That may be, but many have left because they got sick of the bickering, even if they didn’t participate in it. You and the rest of the AMT crowd have been valuable contributors, and I would hate to lose you, but as I recall, FFL was a much more harmonious place before you all arrived. There must have been some bickering, but predominantly, there were intelligent, extended discussions on the sorts of topics outlined in the group description. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become Edg: If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go." Curtis: If I wanted this kind of judgment on my expression I would have stayed in the movement. Does the term "Age of Enlightenment News" mean anything to you? You know, we lost Cliff Rees. That was a loss. He said he couldn't tolerate Judy. I would hate to lost Edg. But FFL will survive, sometimes more fun, sometimes less. I can't help but feel that Cliff cut himself off from a nice outlet. Curtis, you are so right on. Self discipline, not imposed discipline is what makes for a strong community. IMHO, Judy has much a right as anyone to express herself as she sees fit. I agree. Very few people have gotten anywhere near deserving expulsion. Tom Pall did when he descended into racism and anti-semitism. As I said in another post, you can control negative people by ignoring them. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
One thing that's interersting about Ciff is that he taught TM in India with Ravi Shankar befor he became Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lurk, > > I missed Cliff Rees (not spelled Reese?) posting > here? He was a very > interesting movement guy if it was the same guy I > knew. What posts > can you direct me to? I would like to read his > perspective on his > movement life if he posted it. > > Thanks. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "lurkernomore20002000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Edg: > > If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for > Edg and everyone > > else. One strike, out you go." > > > > Curtis: > > If I wanted this kind of judgment on my expression > I would have > > stayed in the movement. Does the term "Age of > Enlightenment News" > > mean anything to you? > > > > You know, we lost Cliff Rees. That was a loss. > He said he couldn't > > tolerate Judy. I would hate to lost Edg. But FFL > will survive, > > sometimes more fun, sometimes less. I can't help > but feel that > > Cliff cut himself off from a nice outlet. Curtis, > you are so right > > on. Self discipline, not imposed discipline is > what makes for a > > strong community. IMHO, Judy has much a right as > anyone to express > > herself as she sees fit. > > > > lurk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become "If someone is mean, out they go, and that goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you go." If I wanted this kind of judgment on my expression I would have stayed in the movement. Does the term "Age of Enlightenment News" mean anything to you? Once trollish behavior has been identified, anyone responding is doing it by choice. Some are obviously nuts or on the outer edges of odd. Some are entertaining if you don't take it personally. Limiting content freedom is a dark path. If you just control what you read, ignore posts that don't interest you and pay attention to what you like, no one will have to kick people off because you don't want to read their stuff. Self control, not group control. Curtis said it much better than I could have. Since many of us seem rather juvenile at times, try to remember the old childhood saying, “Sticks and stones can break my bones, but names can never hurt me.” Here’s another one we used to say: “I’m rubber and you’re glue. Everything bad you say to me bounces off of me and sticks to you.” And one from the Yoga Sutras: “Undisturbed calmness of mind is attained by cultivating friendliness toward the happy, compassion for the unhappy, delight in the virtuous, and indifference toward the wicked.” Negative posters tire themselves out very quickly if you ignore them. I use my real name, live in FF, founded this forum, and make some pretty controversial (and unfounded) statements. I take some pretty serious flak for this sometimes. When this happens, I remember the Robert Burns poem: “O would some Power the gift to give us To see ourselves as others see us!” I can’t blame these people for seeing me as some rakshasha-possessed, Maharishi-bashing ne’r do well. That’s how I used to view people who did what I’m doing. Are any of us completely innocent of doing the things we accuse others of doing? Look at your recent interchange with Nabby, Edg. He claimed to have flown 24 feet, and you went ballistic, using expletives, threatening physical violence, etc. Or this more recent interchange. I only read a fraction of the posts and may have missed many juicy details, but I gathered that someone called you some name and rather than ignoring that childish insult, you exploded, blowing smoke out your ears and threatening a law suit. You responded to a BB gun with a bazooka. Anyway, Curtis said it all: “Self control, not group control.” No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Fairfield and Fairfield Life Could Become
Other groups and forums have tight controls, because the trolls and spammers WILL ruin every one of them if given a chance. --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "If someone is mean, out they go, and that > goes for Edg and everyone else. One strike, out you > go." > > If I wanted this kind of judgment on my expression I > would have stayed > in the movement. Does the term "Age of > Enlightenment News" mean > anything to you? > > Once trollish behavior has been identified, anyone > responding is doing > it by choice. Some are obviously nuts or on the > outer edges of odd. > Some are entertaining if you don't take it > personally. > > Limiting content freedom is a dark path. If you > just control what you > read, ignore posts that don't interest you and pay > attention to what > you like, no one will have to kick people off > because you don't want > to read their stuff. > > Self control, not group control. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Still working here Edg. But I'll ponder this > tonight and get back to > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick Archer > > SearchSummit > > 1108 South B Street > > Fairfield, IA 52556 > > Phone: (641) 472-9336 > > Fax: (914) 470-9336 > > http:HYPERLINK > "http://searchsummit.com"//searchsummit.com > > HYPERLINK > > "http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Duveyoung > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:48 PM > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Fairfield and > Fairfield Life Could Become > > > > > > > > Rick, > > > > You want a great message board, but I'm finding > your "support" of > > trolls to be dangerously near to "enabling" > slander -- not to mention > > the attempts of trolls to emotionally abuse folks. > Rick, how many > > more folks will leave this place because you think > trolls are cute and > > "add to the mix?" Don't deny it. There's been many > a mind here that > > was just abused down to a nub, while you watched > it. I'm almost ready > > to leave, and Turq just said the same thing. TURQ > DON'T LEAVE > WITHOUT ME! > > > > I'm not a prude or some anal type trying to lay > down some hardass > > morality. It might be quite acceptable to have a > sort of locker room > > mentality here -- the put-downs could be a good > natured but gentle > > chiding, but these trolls here are out to piss > folks off plain and > > simple, and they take the meanest route possible > every time. > > > > Rick, I know you have thought for hours and hours > about this, but, I > > ask you to look into your heart and to more deeply > consider this > > issue, because, in light of the fact that you are > not controlling the > > trolls, I think you are harming the community > here. That said, I AM > > ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT YOU WANT TO THIS BE A > WONDERFUL FORUM OF DEBATE > > AND SHARING. > > > > If you truly like the angst here, think deeper. > > > > And with Maharishi's death just around the corner, > Fairfield Life may > > become an incredibly important hub to find a > leader, a flag, a notion, > > something to rally around and have Fairfield -- > the New Age City -- > > really blossom. Now that would be a wonderful > thing for the whole > > community, right? But, with the trolls here, it > just won't happen > > with their typical vilifications. > > > > Good folk trying hard to make things better just > won't put up with > > abuse such as is daily seen here. > > > > Mr. Gorber, Rick tear down this wall! > > > > This wall of trolls that keeps the good folks who > really would love a > > dialog of import and a peaceful meeting place of > quiet minds thinking > > deeply about the potentials that Fairfield could > finally achieve. > > > > I'm a romantic fool, go figure, but I have a dream > of this place being > > where free minds think aloud freely and yet no one > is hating anyone > > else's differences -- you know, what we all > believed that TM would > > automatically guarantee us. A place where silence > is the worst put-down. > > > > Well, no luck so far, eh? > > > > So I say, Jai Guru Rick -- lead us to the > community light. > > > > I'll be there for that vision. And here's the > price I would pay for > > it: I'll never use another swear word here, never > take offense, never > > abuse, never use, never lie, never insinuate, > never bait, never troll. > > > > I'll be your number one disciple if you change > this group into the > > enlightened community that it truly can be. All > the other cities that > > could possibly fill this role, Ashland, OR for > instance, can't hope to > > beat Fairfield if Fairfield got rid of its > only-TM-works prejudices. > > > > And, Rick, you don't have to do anything mean. > > > > All you have to do is say, "If someone is mean, > out they go, and that > > goes for Edg and everyone else. O
