Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jindrich Novy wrote:
> The .ARCH postfix is actually derived from the TL metadata
> dependencies but indeed it doesn't look so good. The '-libs' is not
> appropriate as only binaries which go to /usr/bin are packaged.
> 
> I will switch to the '-bin' postfix in the next build.

Right, -bin seems to make most sense in this case.

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-23 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:21:35PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:10 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:48:49PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: 
> > > It seems your spec making program has some bugs, as some packages have
> > > names such as texlive-csplain.ARCH, this probably shouldn't be..?
> > 
> > Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the
> > noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains
> > the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries.
> 
> Wouldn't it be better to have texlive-csplain%{_isa} shipping the arch
> dependent bits and a texlive-csplain-common.noarch shipping the arch
> independent stuff? That would be more in line with other packages.

Hmm, this is even better idea. It was not originally possible in the
first designed TL packaging scheme (noarch and binary bits were
created from one src.rpm what prevented arch/noarch package named in
the same way) but now it is actually possible because binaries are built
separately.

Thanks,
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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-23 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:07:19PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jindrich Novy wrote:
> > Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the
> > noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains
> > the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries.
> 
> Wouldn't texlive-csplain-libs or texlive-csplain-bin be more compliant to 
> our guidelines?

The .ARCH postfix is actually derived from the TL metadata
dependencies but indeed it doesn't look so good. The '-libs' is not
appropriate as only binaries which go to /usr/bin are packaged.

I will switch to the '-bin' postfix in the next build.

Jindrich

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Norbert Preining wrote:
> So you are packaging each an every tlp into one rpm. Wowww.
> 
> Well, that makes many things easier, and at the same time also
> complicated. Many packages. In Debian we couldn't do that, adding sooo
> many packages in one go.

That was how rel-eng and FPC explicitly asked for things to be done.

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-21 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:10 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:48:49PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: 
> > It seems your spec making program has some bugs, as some packages have
> > names such as texlive-csplain.ARCH, this probably shouldn't be..?
> 
> Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the
> noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains
> the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries.

Wouldn't it be better to have texlive-csplain%{_isa} shipping the arch
dependent bits and a texlive-csplain-common.noarch shipping the arch
independent stuff? That would be more in line with other packages.
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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jindrich Novy wrote:
> Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the
> noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains
> the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries.

Wouldn't texlive-csplain-libs or texlive-csplain-bin be more compliant to 
our guidelines?

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
Hi,

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 02:38:30PM -0400, Michel Salim wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:44 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for
> > testing in Fedora:
> > 
> > rpm -Uhv 
> > http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm
> > 
> Any chance you could build this for Rawhide as well? Otherwise, would it
> be advisable to use the F11 packages on Rawhide?


Currently I have problems rebuilding the TeX Live binaries likely because of
the new poppler:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1618635&name=build.log

I will add a separate reporitory for rawhide as soon it is
successfully built and update the Feature page when it happens.

Jindrich

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 01:26:13PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> > "JLT" == Jason L Tibbitts  writes:
> 
> JLT> There are many, many more packages that require tetex-latex at
> JLT> build time.  Notably every R package, most likely because of
> JLT> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:R.
> 
> I have adjusted the guideline page to reference tex(latex), but I
> believe this will cause issues for EPEL as no RHEL version seems to have
> tex(latex).

Thanks for updating the packaging guidelines. I will add te tetex-* provides
to be compatible with the legacy packages.

Jindrich

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Michel Salim
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:44 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for
> testing in Fedora:
> 
> rpm -Uhv 
> http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm
> 
Any chance you could build this for Rawhide as well? Otherwise, would it
be advisable to use the F11 packages on Rawhide?

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JLT" == Jason L Tibbitts  writes:

JLT> There are many, many more packages that require tetex-latex at
JLT> build time.  Notably every R package, most likely because of
JLT> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:R.

I have adjusted the guideline page to reference tex(latex), but I
believe this will cause issues for EPEL as no RHEL version seems to have
tex(latex).

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JN" == Jindrich Novy  writes:

JN> These virtual provides, such as tex(tex), tex(latex) or tex(xetex)
JN> were added at the beginning of the year 2008 so it works at least
JN> for Fedora 9 and higher.
JN> We should file bugs for these packages.

There are many, many more packages that require tetex-latex at build
time.  Notably every R package, most likely because of
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:R.

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Re: [tex-live] TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
Hi Norbert,

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:33:26PM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi Jindrich,
> 
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive
> 
> How do you handle installation of
>   texlive-scheme-*
> since the schemes are overlapping? AFAIR rpm does not allow sharing
> pf files?

Schemes and collections are generated as meta-packages, not really
shipping any files, but dependent on required collections and
packages. Here is a sample of scheme-context for example:

%package scheme-context
Summary: ConTeXt scheme
Version: %{tl_version}
Release: 13822%{?dist}
BuildArch: noarch
Requires: texlive = %{tl_version}
Requires: texlive-collection-context
Requires: texlive-collection-metapost
Requires: texlive-xetex
Requires: texlive-tex-gyre
Requires: texlive-antt
Requires: texlive-antp
Requires: texlive-iwona
Requires: texlive-kurier
Requires: texlive-lm
Provides: tex(context)

So even though collections and packages do overlap in schemes we have
no conflicts :) By installing a wider scheme only missing packages are
installed.

Jindrich

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 05:11:31PM +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
> 2009/8/20 Mary Ellen Foster :
> > 2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy :
> >>
> >> Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
> >> because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
> >> packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
> >> help with testing :)
> >
> > One more issue: some packages (like R, for example) still depend on
> > "tetex-latex", which I guess used to be a virtual provide of texlive
> > but is now gone. What's the plan for dealing with this?
> >
> > Here's the full list of things that require tetex-latex according to 
> > repoquery:
> >
> > a2ps-0:4.14-8.fc11.x86_64
> > asymptote-0:1.70-1.fc11.x86_64
> > fig2ps-0:1.3.6-4.fc11.noarch
> > hevea-0:1.10-3.fc11.x86_64
> > HippoDraw-0:1.21.1-9.fc11.x86_64
> > ipe-0:6.0-0.29.pre30.fc11.x86_64
> > jadetex-0:3.13-5.fc11.noarch
> > mediawiki-math-0:1.14.0-45.fc11.x86_64
> > pdfjam-0:1.21-1.fc11.noarch
> > pyscript-0:0.6.1-4.fc11.noarch
> > R-devel-0:2.9.0-2.fc11.x86_64
> > tetex-bytefield-0:1.2a-5.fc11.noarch
> > tetex-dvipost-0:1.1-10.fc11.x86_64
> > tetex-elsevier-0:0.1.20071024-2.fc11.noarch
> > tetex-IEEEtran-0:1.7.1-2.fc11.noarch
> > tetex-perltex-0:1.7-2.fc11.noarch
> > tetex-prosper-0:1.5-5.fc11.noarch
> > texmaker-1:1.8-2.fc11.x86_64
> 
> These packages should be updated to require tex(latex).

Right. These packages need to be updated to reflect the "newly"
introduced virtual provides. The reason of adding virtual provides was
to make packages not dependent on a praticular TeX distribution.

These virtual provides, such as tex(tex), tex(latex) or
tex(xetex) were added at the beginning of the year 2008 so it works at
least for Fedora 9 and higher.

We should file bugs for these packages.

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2009/8/20 Mary Ellen Foster :
> 2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy :
>>
>> Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
>> because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
>> packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
>> help with testing :)
>
> One more issue: some packages (like R, for example) still depend on
> "tetex-latex", which I guess used to be a virtual provide of texlive
> but is now gone. What's the plan for dealing with this?
>
> Here's the full list of things that require tetex-latex according to 
> repoquery:
>
> a2ps-0:4.14-8.fc11.x86_64
> asymptote-0:1.70-1.fc11.x86_64
> fig2ps-0:1.3.6-4.fc11.noarch
> hevea-0:1.10-3.fc11.x86_64
> HippoDraw-0:1.21.1-9.fc11.x86_64
> ipe-0:6.0-0.29.pre30.fc11.x86_64
> jadetex-0:3.13-5.fc11.noarch
> mediawiki-math-0:1.14.0-45.fc11.x86_64
> pdfjam-0:1.21-1.fc11.noarch
> pyscript-0:0.6.1-4.fc11.noarch
> R-devel-0:2.9.0-2.fc11.x86_64
> tetex-bytefield-0:1.2a-5.fc11.noarch
> tetex-dvipost-0:1.1-10.fc11.x86_64
> tetex-elsevier-0:0.1.20071024-2.fc11.noarch
> tetex-IEEEtran-0:1.7.1-2.fc11.noarch
> tetex-perltex-0:1.7-2.fc11.noarch
> tetex-prosper-0:1.5-5.fc11.noarch
> texmaker-1:1.8-2.fc11.x86_64

These packages should be updated to require tex(latex).

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 03:48:00PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> 2009/8/20 Mary Ellen Foster :
> > What's up with xetex? The package is named texlive-xetex.ARCH, and it
> > seems to depend on a package called "texlive-xetex" which isn't
> > provided in the new repository, and therefore pulls in the whole old
> > version of texlive from the core repository again ...
> 
> Sorry, never mind -- looks like it has an unversioned dependency or
> something, texlive-xetex is in the new repo and once I excluded the
> old repos it worked again. (Should obsolete teckit though ...)

and t1utils. I need to yet hack the dependency generator to obsolete
or require these external utilities.

For now I modified the spec creator to require versioned packages
every time to avoid these surprises.

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:03:54PM +0200, Pavel Lisy wrote:
> Jindrich Novy píše v Čt 20. 08. 2009 v 14:44 +0200:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for
> > testing in Fedora:
> > 
> > rpm -Uhv 
> > http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm
> > 
> > Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
> > because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
> > packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
> > help with testing :)
> > 
> > My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are
> > available to non-TeX Live users as well.
> > 
> > For more information:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive
> 
> Thanks
> 
> one question: in F11 is csindex program missing. I've read somewhere
> there was problem in missing autoconf for it. What about new TeX Live?
> Is it there now? Can I help if csindex is still missing?

I don't see csindex in TeX Live 2009 as well... Please ask directly
on the upstream mailing list tex-l...@tug.org, they will be happy if
you offer help :)

Jindrich

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 03:38:57PM +0100, Mary Ellen Foster wrote:
> 2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy :
> >
> > Thanks for noticing. I've tested only upgrade from texlive-2007
> > installation with no dvipdfmx installed. I'll fix it in the next
> > repo update.
> 
> Another related upgrade issue: texlive-psutils doesn't obsolete
> psutils ... (is there a better place to note this sort of thing?)

Please use:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/TeXLive

or:

http://bugzilla.redhat.com/488651

for now or mail me directly.

Currently I have no better place to report bugs/RFEs.

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:48:49PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:44 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for
> > testing in Fedora:
> > 
> > rpm -Uhv 
> > http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm
> > 
> > Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
> > because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
> > packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
> > help with testing :)
> > 
> > My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are
> > available to non-TeX Live users as well.
> 
> It seems your spec making program has some bugs, as some packages have
> names such as texlive-csplain.ARCH, this probably shouldn't be..?

Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the
noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains
the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries.

> 
> When I try to install texlive-scheme-full on F11 x86_64 I get a bunch of
> errors due to missing packages:
> 
>   --> Missing Dependency: texlive-findhyph is needed by package
> texlive-collection-binextra-2009-14758.fc11.noarch (texlive)
> Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-germkorr is needed by package
> texlive-collection-langgerman-2009-14751.fc11.noarch (texlive)
> Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-spverbatim is needed by package
> texlive-collection-latexextra-2009-14750.fc11.noarch (texlive)
> Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-fig4latex is needed by package
> texlive-collection-pictures-2009-14752.fc11.noarch (texlive)
> Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-findhyph is needed by package
> texlive-collection-binextra-2009-14758.fc11.noarch (texlive)
> Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-titlepic is needed by package
> texlive-collection-latexextra-2009-14750.fc11.noarch (texlive)

Fixed. It was caused by old repodata. It should work now.

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 16:29 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 03:53:06PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
> Please be sure you remove all the old formats generated with the old
> TeX Live. In most cases clearing the /var/lib/texmf/ and ~/.texlive* contents
> should make it work.
> 
Thanks, didn't occurred to me, that I need to rm -rf
also /var/lib/texmf. It's working now :) When you'll do the upgrade in
Fedora proper, it might be a good idea to clear /var/lib/texmf then (via
the packages)...

> You might want to add:
> 
> csplain  pdfetex - -etex -enc csplain-utf8.ini
> cslatex  pdfetex - -etex -enc cslatex-utf8.ini
> 
> in /usr/share/texlive/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf instead of the links to 
> cp227.tcx translate-file.
> 
Thanks, that did the job. I noticed during the time I tried to make
csplain working that removing and re-adding the texlive-csplain package
adds to this file lots of garbage which make csplain format generation
not working... You'll get lines like:

csplain pdftex - -extex -translate-file=cp227.tcx cslatex.ini pdftex -
-extex -translate-file=cp227.tcx cslatex.ini and so on

Would be worth fixing, even though it's a corner case...

Anyway, after installing some (which looked like I'd might need them)
collections and texlive-bbm, I was able to successfully build my
Bachelors' thesis (it's about general relativity, and it uses pretty
pretty much everything I've ever tried with TeX, so the coverage is
rather good), so I can say that (cs)plain (utf8) works in TexLive 2009
well.

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Mary Ellen Foster
2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy :
>
> Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
> because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
> packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
> help with testing :)

One more issue: some packages (like R, for example) still depend on
"tetex-latex", which I guess used to be a virtual provide of texlive
but is now gone. What's the plan for dealing with this?

Here's the full list of things that require tetex-latex according to repoquery:

a2ps-0:4.14-8.fc11.x86_64
asymptote-0:1.70-1.fc11.x86_64
fig2ps-0:1.3.6-4.fc11.noarch
hevea-0:1.10-3.fc11.x86_64
HippoDraw-0:1.21.1-9.fc11.x86_64
ipe-0:6.0-0.29.pre30.fc11.x86_64
jadetex-0:3.13-5.fc11.noarch
mediawiki-math-0:1.14.0-45.fc11.x86_64
pdfjam-0:1.21-1.fc11.noarch
pyscript-0:0.6.1-4.fc11.noarch
R-devel-0:2.9.0-2.fc11.x86_64
tetex-bytefield-0:1.2a-5.fc11.noarch
tetex-dvipost-0:1.1-10.fc11.x86_64
tetex-elsevier-0:0.1.20071024-2.fc11.noarch
tetex-IEEEtran-0:1.7.1-2.fc11.noarch
tetex-perltex-0:1.7-2.fc11.noarch
tetex-prosper-0:1.5-5.fc11.noarch
texmaker-1:1.8-2.fc11.x86_64

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Mary Ellen Foster
2009/8/20 Mary Ellen Foster :
> What's up with xetex? The package is named texlive-xetex.ARCH, and it
> seems to depend on a package called "texlive-xetex" which isn't
> provided in the new repository, and therefore pulls in the whole old
> version of texlive from the core repository again ...

Sorry, never mind -- looks like it has an unversioned dependency or
something, texlive-xetex is in the new repo and once I excluded the
old repos it worked again. (Should obsolete teckit though ...)

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Mary Ellen Foster  said:
> Another related upgrade issue: texlive-psutils doesn't obsolete
> psutils ... (is there a better place to note this sort of thing?)

Why would texlive replace a stand-alone package (that has been around
forever as a stand-alone package)?
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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Mary Ellen Foster
2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy :
>
> Thanks for noticing. I've tested only upgrade from texlive-2007
> installation with no dvipdfmx installed. I'll fix it in the next
> repo update.

Another related upgrade issue: texlive-psutils doesn't obsolete
psutils ... (is there a better place to note this sort of thing?)

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 03:40:46PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:44 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for
> > testing in Fedora:
> > 
> > rpm -Uhv 
> > http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm
> > 
> > Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
> > because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
> > packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
> > help with testing :)
> > 
> > My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are
> > available to non-TeX Live users as well.
> > 
> > For more information:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive
> > 
> Thank you so much for your effort :) 
> 
> Doing yum update texlive\* resulted in dep. problems with (x)dvipdfmx,
> dvipng (requires libkpathsea.so.4) -- you're probably missing obsoletes
> in texlive-dvipdfmx and texlive-dvipng. After I removed them (along with
> xetex, which I tried once, but went back to "just" tex), the update
> progressed smoothly, haven't tried runtime yet (though, seeing that your
> repo has 5000+ packages and the yum updated installed/updated only 85, I
> suspect I'll be missing some fonts I use).
> 

Thanks for noticing. I've tested only upgrade from texlive-2007
installation with no dvipdfmx installed. I'll fix it in the next
repo update.

The main texlive package installs only the basic scheme with minimal
functionality. (but the pdflatex works fine for me even with the basic
scheme). It you want to have more complex installation, just do yum
search texlive-scheme or texlive-collection and install what you need
:)

Jindrich

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 03:53:06PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 15:40 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
> > progressed smoothly, haven't tried runtime yet (though, seeing that your
> So, just noticed I needed to install texlive-csplain in order to have
> it, but it does not work:
> 
> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009)
>  restricted \write18 enabled.
> ---! /usr/share/texlive/texmf-var/web2c/pdftex/csplain.fmt doesn't match
> pdftex.pool
> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
> 
> How can I fix it?

Please be sure you remove all the old formats generated with the old
TeX Live. In most cases clearing the /var/lib/texmf/ and ~/.texlive* contents
should make it work.

> 
> Further, I noticed in csplain.log that it loads the document with
> ISO-8859-2 coding, is there a way to switch it to UTF-8? texconfig does
> not seem to work anymore for format installing/changing :(

You might want to add:

csplain  pdfetex - -etex -enc csplain-utf8.ini
cslatex  pdfetex - -etex -enc cslatex-utf8.ini

in /usr/share/texlive/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf instead of the links to 
cp227.tcx translate-file.

Jindrich

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Mary Ellen Foster
2009/8/20 Jindrich Novy :
> rpm -Uhv 
> http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm
>
> Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
> because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
> packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
> help with testing :)

What's up with xetex? The package is named texlive-xetex.ARCH, and it
seems to depend on a package called "texlive-xetex" which isn't
provided in the new repository, and therefore pulls in the whole old
version of texlive from the core repository again ...

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Pavel Lisy
Jindrich Novy píše v Čt 20. 08. 2009 v 14:44 +0200:
> Hi,
> 
> TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for
> testing in Fedora:
> 
> rpm -Uhv 
> http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm
> 
> Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
> because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
> packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
> help with testing :)
> 
> My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are
> available to non-TeX Live users as well.
> 
> For more information:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive

Thanks

one question: in F11 is csindex program missing. I've read somewhere
there was problem in missing autoconf for it. What about new TeX Live?
Is it there now? Can I help if csindex is still missing?

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 15:40 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
> progressed smoothly, haven't tried runtime yet (though, seeing that your
So, just noticed I needed to install texlive-csplain in order to have
it, but it does not work:

This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
---! /usr/share/texlive/texmf-var/web2c/pdftex/csplain.fmt doesn't match
pdftex.pool
(Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)

How can I fix it?

Further, I noticed in csplain.log that it loads the document with
ISO-8859-2 coding, is there a way to switch it to UTF-8? texconfig does
not seem to work anymore for format installing/changing :(

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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:44 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for
> testing in Fedora:
> 
> rpm -Uhv 
> http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm
> 
> Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
> because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
> packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
> help with testing :)
> 
> My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are
> available to non-TeX Live users as well.

It seems your spec making program has some bugs, as some packages have
names such as texlive-csplain.ARCH, this probably shouldn't be..?

When I try to install texlive-scheme-full on F11 x86_64 I get a bunch of
errors due to missing packages:

  --> Missing Dependency: texlive-findhyph is needed by package
texlive-collection-binextra-2009-14758.fc11.noarch (texlive)
Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-germkorr is needed by package
texlive-collection-langgerman-2009-14751.fc11.noarch (texlive)
Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-spverbatim is needed by package
texlive-collection-latexextra-2009-14750.fc11.noarch (texlive)
Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-fig4latex is needed by package
texlive-collection-pictures-2009-14752.fc11.noarch (texlive)
Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-findhyph is needed by package
texlive-collection-binextra-2009-14758.fc11.noarch (texlive)
Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-titlepic is needed by package
texlive-collection-latexextra-2009-14750.fc11.noarch (texlive)
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Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:44 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for
> testing in Fedora:
> 
> rpm -Uhv 
> http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm
> 
> Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
> because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
> packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
> help with testing :)
> 
> My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are
> available to non-TeX Live users as well.
> 
> For more information:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive
> 
Thank you so much for your effort :) 

Doing yum update texlive\* resulted in dep. problems with (x)dvipdfmx,
dvipng (requires libkpathsea.so.4) -- you're probably missing obsoletes
in texlive-dvipdfmx and texlive-dvipng. After I removed them (along with
xetex, which I tried once, but went back to "just" tex), the update
progressed smoothly, haven't tried runtime yet (though, seeing that your
repo has 5000+ packages and the yum updated installed/updated only 85, I
suspect I'll be missing some fonts I use).

Martin


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TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-20 Thread Jindrich Novy
Hi,

TeX Live 2009 pretest is now available via external repository for
testing in Fedora:

rpm -Uhv 
http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm

Maybe a good idea is to start directly with TeX Live 2009 in Fedora
because TL 2008 has different package set and TL 2009 contains newest
packages and will likely be released this year. And before that we can
help with testing :)

My current effort is aimed to font packaging so that the fonts are
available to non-TeX Live users as well.

For more information:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive

Jindrich

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