Red Hat CEO Interview

[john wendel]

http://web.eweek.com/t?r=2&c=1230&l=24&ctl=86A9:C4A208E9B2377D1F7250ABE765FD2F22&kc=EWKNLNAV09102008STR1

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trouble with Fedora-9-x86_64-netinst.iso

[Don Cohen]

Don Cohen writes:
 > However, I suspect that not all is well, cause after I enter return 
 > (English), then return for the next screen (US keyboard), then select
 > media (I tried both URL and local cd) I get 
 >   unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation
 >   type...
This then asks whether I want to install new drivers.
It seems clear that FC9 should know how to read the CD since it's
already booting from the CD.
Anyone know why it's saying that it can't find any CD/DVD ?

I find that attempts to install older FC versions, though not
generating backtraces, do give the same message about not finding
devices.  So maybe the question is then what to do about this.
Could this machine be using hardware that's too new to be supported?
Windows says I have
disk drive = Hitachi HTS543216L9A3 SCSI Disk Device
dvd = TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L633A SCSI CdRom Device
net = Realtek RTL8102E family PCI-E Fast Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)

I now also try choosing hard drive as the installation medium and get 
a message about having no hard drive.  This also appears in older FC.

One more experiment, FC9 i386 starts to boot and then stops, I think
even earlier than x86_64 - the screen there looks like this:
 ...
CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=...
PID hash table entries: ...
Detected 1900.193 Mhz processor
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
console [tty0] enabled
Dentry cache hash table entries: ...
Inode-cache hash table entries: ...
Memory available...
virtual kernel memory layout:
...
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode...Ok.
SLUB: Genslabs=12, HWalign=64, Order=0-1,MinObjects=4, CPUs=2, Nodes=1


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Re: microphone not recording

[Antonio M]

2008/9/11 JoaoCid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi!
> I've been trying and trying to put my mic to work with FC8, but still didn't 
> reach any success...
> The sound output seems to be working fine, as I am able to hear it from the 
> apps I've tried so far, including Skype! But still no success at all with 
> recording in Skype, Audacity or console arecord...
> After getting through several similar issues on the web, I am almost 
> quitting, but something here called my attention: the usage of alsamixer 
> (console version), as I was supposed to see mic and boost when capture was 
> selected, but I am not seeing nothing!
> Maybe you guys, with much more experience than me, could give me some hints 
> on how to go a bit further in order to cast this problem out, for which I 
> thank you in anticipation.
> By the way, the sound-card is an Intel built-in...
> Again, thanks
> João
>
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did you gave a look in preferences of alsamixer if Microphone is de/selected???

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F8 Updates

[Anthony I. Scott]

Today I turned on my computer and F8 updates ran in two steps, firstly
the new key loaded and then the main updates loaded. I thought all had
gone flawlessly.
So I ran yum update in CLI and received the following output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, fedorakmod, kernel-module, presto,
priorities,
  : refresh-updatesd, skip-broken
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in 
yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main
errcode = main(args)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 84, in main
base.getOptionsConfig(args)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 184, in getOptionsConfig
enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 189, in
_getConfig
startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins,enabled_plugins)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 355, in
doPluginSetup
plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins, enabled_plugins)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 160, in
__init__
self.run('config')
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 176, in
run
func(conduitcls(self, self.base, conf, **kwargs))
  File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/skip-broken.py", line 110, in config_hook
help="skip packages with broken dependencies")
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/optparse.py", line 1014, in add_option
self._check_conflict(option)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/optparse.py", line 989, in _check_conflict
option)
optparse.OptionConflictError: option --skip-broken: conflicting option
string(s): --skip-broken
Could anyone help me resolve this little problem?
Thanks for any help.
Regards,
Ningbojoe.

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Re: microphone not recording

[JoaoCid]

Hi!
I've been trying and trying to put my mic to work with FC8, but still didn't 
reach any success...
The sound output seems to be working fine, as I am able to hear it from the 
apps I've tried so far, including Skype! But still no success at all with 
recording in Skype, Audacity or console arecord...
After getting through several similar issues on the web, I am almost quitting, 
but something here called my attention: the usage of alsamixer (console 
version), as I was supposed to see mic and boost when capture was selected, but 
I am not seeing nothing!
Maybe you guys, with much more experience than me, could give me some hints on 
how to go a bit further in order to cast this problem out, for which I thank 
you in anticipation.
By the way, the sound-card is an Intel built-in...
Again, thanks
João


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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[Rahul Sundaram]

Konstantin Svist wrote:
Is that being planned at all? 


No. Although the remi repository has it.

Or is F8 only supported in terms of

security patches & such?


Fedora 8 still gets some feature updates but Firefox 3 is considered too 
invasive a change to be made in an update.


Rahul

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Re: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 18:27 -0700, landon kelsey wrote:
> This is a great mail list (with very few exceptions)!

It would be even better if people would read the Guidelines and not
top-post.

poc

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Re: Yum Error

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 21:21 -0400, Jim wrote:
> Using Yumex I did a refresh in Rawhide and selected the kde-4.1.1 
> packages and dependencies where satisfied.

I tried "yum --enablerepo=rawhide groupupdate KDE" but the number of
dependencies was large and some were not satisfied, so I didn't bother.

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Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[Konstantin Svist]

Is that being planned at all? Or is F8 only supported in terms of
security patches & such?


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Package yum-skip-broken broken?

[Richard Shaw]

I got the new key and then did a "yum update yum\*" which updated several of
my yum plugins including yum-skip-broken. When I next ran yum I got the
following error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]# yum update
Loaded plugins: changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror, kernel-module,
presto,
  : skip-broken
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in 
yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main
errcode = main(args)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 84, in main
base.getOptionsConfig(args)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 184, in getOptionsConfig
enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 189, in
_getConfig
startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins,enabled_plugins)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 355, in
doPluginSetup
plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins, enabled_plugins)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 160, in
__init__
self.run('config')
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 176, in run
func(conduitcls(self, self.base, conf, **kwargs))
  File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/skip-broken.py", line 110, in config_hook
help="skip packages with broken dependencies")
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/optparse.py", line 1014, in add_option
self._check_conflict(option)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/optparse.py", line 989, in _check_conflict
option)
optparse.OptionConflictError: option --skip-broken: conflicting option
string(s): --skip-broken
---

Since yum was essentially broken at this point (I didn't think about
disabling the plugin) I did a "rpm -e yum-skip-broken" and now yum is
happily updating my system. Any python experts understand what happened?

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Tired of updating Thunderbird

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>> On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 16:25 -0400, James McManus wrote:
>>
> That sounds like a good reason not to use thunderbird.

unless he wants a better thunderbird.

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Re: Tired of updating Thunderbird

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James McManus wrote:
> Wow, that was clear as day. I wonder High I missed it!

maybe you could not read it because it is not in 'html'.

please disable 'html text' in you post to this list.

thank you.

> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 16:25 -0400, James McManus wrote:

do not leaving 'history' and some folks will not ask you not to 'top post'.

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trouble with Fedora-9-x86_64-netinst.iso

[Don Cohen]

I just got a HP Pavilion dv5z-1000
 AMD Athlon(TM) X2 Dual-Core Processor for Notebook PCs QL-60 (1.9GHz)
(many other specs available if that would be useful)
and tried Fedora-9-x86_64-netinst.iso

While booting I see lots of stuff scroll by too fast to record, but
just after it pauses after
  running /sbin/loader
I see what looks like a stack trace, which I've attempted to
approximate below.  After a few minutes (during which I attempt to
copy down some of the gobbledygook on the screen) I see the expected
screen asking what language.
However, I suspect that not all is well, cause after I enter return 
(English), then return for the next screen (US keyboard), then select
media (I tried both URL and local cd) I get 
  unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation
  type...

The basic question is what I should do about this.

Some approximation of what was on the screen


[] bus_for_each_dev+...
 ...
[  ] ? do_sync_read
[  ] ? disable_irq
[  ] security_file_permission
[  ] vfs_read
[  ] system_call_after_swapgs

Code ...
 ...
[ end of trace ...]
ohci_hcd: 2006 August 04 USB li 'open' host controller (OHCI) driver
libata version 3.00 loaded

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Re: why does Firefox 3.0.1 ad block work only occasionally

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landon,
please disable 'html' in you post.
please use plain text only in your email.
save 'html' for firefox and web browsing.
thank you.

landon kelsey wrote:
> I am talking about blocking on the same site.
> 
> Somebody has figured a way to get past the pop-up blocker!

think so?

> www.intellicast.com

use it for all my weather checks and watches. even have intellicast
in my 'bookmarks toolbar'.

> A little window from a blocked site pops up!

i do not see any 'little window'.

are you sure you have done what you need to do to block 'pop ups'?

> Yes I reported it!

shame. you need to additional 'add-ons'.

check 'about: plugins' to see if you have them all enabled and setup.

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Re: New key: updating yum/yum-utils depsolving problem

[Kevin J. Cummings]

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
I just ran update myself.  On my F9.x86_64 system, things went well, 113 
updates are installing.  On my F8.i686 system, not so well:


The first thing I did there was to update yum (and pygpgme).  That went 
fine, but the bulk update didn't:



Loaded plugins: downloadonly, fastestmirror, kmdl, stablemirror
stablemirror: the easily edited stablemirror file is 
"/var/cache/yum/stablemirrors"

Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * atrpms: ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de
 * livna: rpm.livna.org
 * google: dl.google.com
 * dribble: dribble.org.uk
 * adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com
 * updates-newkey: fedora.mirrors.tds.net
 * updates: fedora.mirrors.tds.net
 * freshrpms: ayo.ie.freshrpms.net
 * fedora: fedora.mirrors.tds.net
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Excluding Packages from ATrpms - Stable
Finished
Excluding Packages from Livna for Fedora Core 8 - i386 - Base
Finished
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package xscreensaver-extras-gss.i386 1:5.07-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-core.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package bind-utils.i386 32:9.5.0-29.P2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package glabels.i386 0:2.2.2-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package tzdata-java.noarch 0:2008e-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 0:3.0.8-114.fc8 set to be 
updated

---> Package xscreensaver-base.i386 1:5.07-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package glabels-doc.i386 0:2.2.2-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package yum-fastestmirror.noarch 0:1.1.15-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package libedit.i386 0:2.11-1.20080712cvs.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package yum-utils.noarch 0:1.1.15-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-Test-Harness.i386 0:2.56-41.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package bind-libs.i386 32:9.5.0-29.P2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package glabels-libs.i386 0:2.2.2-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package bind.i386 32:9.5.0-29.P2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-calc.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package kde-filesystem.noarch 0:4-17.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package libtiff-devel.i386 0:3.8.2-11.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package libxml2-python.i386 0:2.6.32-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-javafilter.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be 
updated

---> Package yum-downloadonly.noarch 0:1.1.15-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-suidperl.i386 4:5.8.8-41.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package phpMyAdmin.noarch 0:2.11.9-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package qt4.i386 0:4.4.1-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-pyuno.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-emailmerge.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be 
updated

---> Package xine-lib.i386 0:1.1.15-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package libtiff.i386 0:3.8.2-11.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package xscreensaver-gl-base.i386 1:5.07-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package galculator.i386 0:1.3.1-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package meanwhile.i386 0:1.0.2-6.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-draw.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-libs.i386 4:5.8.8-41.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package fakeroot.i386 0:1.9.6-17.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package tzdata.noarch 0:2008e-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package libxml2-devel.i386 0:2.6.32-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-math.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package xine-lib-extras-nonfree.i386 0:1.1.15-1.lvn8 set to be 
updated
---> Package xscreensaver-gl-extras-gss.i386 1:5.07-1.fc8 set to be 
updated
---> Package openoffice.org-xsltfilter.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be 
updated

---> Package qt4-x11.i386 0:4.4.1-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-testtools.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be 
updated

---> Package perl-ExtUtils-Embed.i386 0:1.26-41.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-graphicfilter.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to 
be updated

---> Package openoffice.org-base.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-devel.i386 4:5.8.8-41.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker.i386 0:6.30-41.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package pidgin.i386 0:2.5.1-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package xscreensaver-gl-extras.i386 1:5.07-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package libpurple.i386 0:2.5.1-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package yelp.i386 0:2.20.0-12.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package smart.i386 0:1.0-54.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package xscreensaver-extras.i386 1:5.07-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package libxml2.i386 0:2.6.32-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-impress.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be 
updated

---> Package libpaper.i386 0:1.1.23-3.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package selinux-policy.noarch 0:3.0.8-114.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl.i386 4:5.8.8-41.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-writer.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be 
updated

---> Package sm

After updating per instructions, does yum break?

[Dan Thurman]

I followed the instructions per:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key#Known_Issues

So the steps were for me:

1) Get the Key:
   a) F8: 
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/fedora-release/8/6.transition/data/signed/4f2a6fd2/noarch/fedora-release-8-6.transition.noarch.rpm


   b) F9: 
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/fedora-release/9/5.transition/data/signed/4f2a6fd2/noarch/fedora-release-9-5.transition.noarch.rpm


2) rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-8-and-9
3) yum --skip-broken update
4) Wait until the yum package is fixed and added to the repository, then:
   a) yum update yum
   b) yum update yum-utils

Is this right?

But this looks like the chicken/egg problem...  yum is definitely
broken after updates even if if the --skip-broken option is selected
such as below:

# yum --skip-broken list
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in 
   yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
 File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 243, in user_main
   errcode = main(args)
 File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 98, in main
   base.getOptionsConfig(args)
 File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 183, in getOptionsConfig
   disabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.disableplugins))
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 180, in 
_getConfig

   startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 342, in 
doPluginSetup

   plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 151, in 
__init__

   self._importplugins(types)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 193, in 
_importplugins

   self._loadplugin(modulefile, types)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 226, in 
_loadplugin

   module = imp.load_module(modname, fp, pathname, description)
 File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/filter-data.py", line 111
   ('committers', 'committer')]
  ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

So, the question is - how do I fix this problem?

Dan

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Re: laptop update issue

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:00:43 -0600
Kevin Fenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> NetworkManager in F8 gold release was multiarch. Then in an update it
> became non multi-arch. You have a x86_64 system, right? 
> 
> Do: 
> 
> yum remove NetworkManager.i386
> 
> and it should remove a few i386 packages and allow your update to
> complete after that.

That did it.

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Re: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled

[Dan Thurman]

Ted Roche wrote:


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Gerald Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>
> I am not sure if its the mirrors I used but this is how I resolved it
>
> yum update yum
> let that process
> yum update yum-utils
> let that process
> done
>

Worked for me, too. Thanks for passing it on, Gerald!


Did not work for me:

# yum update yum
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in 
   yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
 File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 243, in user_main
   errcode = main(args)
 File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 98, in main
   base.getOptionsConfig(args)
 File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 183, in getOptionsConfig
   disabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.disableplugins))
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 180, in 
_getConfig

   startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 342, in 
doPluginSetup

   plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 151, in 
__init__

   self._importplugins(types)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 193, in 
_importplugins

   self._loadplugin(modulefile, types)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 226, in 
_loadplugin

   module = imp.load_module(modname, fp, pathname, description)
 File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/filter-data.py", line 111
   ('committers', 'committer')]
  ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

Dan

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Re: no new kernels?

[landon kelsey]

ditto! I suppose changing too many things at once!

Never change horses in mid stream

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Subject: no new kernels?
To: "Fedora List" 
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:03 PM

Just asking :-). I was kinda surprised that no new
kernel showed up in any of the F8 or F9 updates
(for me anyway).

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Re: Q re F8 and updates

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Craig White wrote:
>On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 21:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Greetings;
>>
>> I'm reading about all the yum problems, but none of them have given a clue
>> that will help me.
>>
>> My yum, or yumex, is not showing me an updated fedora-release package, so
>> obviously I cannot even do a yum update yum-keys.
>>
>> Is there not such a file for F8 yet, or is there a hand edit I need to do
>> for fedora-updates.repo?
>
>
>if you read all about the yum problems, how is it that you missed
>this...
>
>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key
>
>???
>
>Craig

Correct, I missed that one.  After using FF to dl the new package, and 
importing the new key, everything else seems to be back in lockstep now.

Thanks Craig, I'm sure by now you wish this would all go quietly away so you 
could go taste test a few ounces of your favorite preservative. :-)


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no new kernels?

[Tom Horsley]

Just asking :-). I was kinda surprised that no new
kernel showed up in any of the F8 or F9 updates
(for me anyway).

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Re: laptop update issue

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:20:52 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Cox) wrote:

> I'm trying to run "yum update" on a F8 laptop that hasn't been
> updated for a few months.
> 
> It goes through all of the motions, downloads all of the updates,
> then I get this:
> 
> QUOTE:
> Transaction Summary
> =
> Install 17 Package(s) 
> Update 313 Package(s) 
> Remove   1 Package(s) 
> 
> Total download size: 726 M
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
> Downloading Packages:
> Running rpm_check_debug
> ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
> Package NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib =
> 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3235.fc8, this is not available. Package
> NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib = 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3235.fc8,
> this is not available. Complete! END OF QUOTE

NetworkManager in F8 gold release was multiarch. Then in an update it
became non multi-arch. You have a x86_64 system, right? 

Do: 

yum remove NetworkManager.i386

and it should remove a few i386 packages and allow your update to
complete after that. 

kevin


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Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS

[Jim]

landon kelsey wrote:

my yum update now show all done

I was told one must do these occasionally :

yum clean all
yum clean metadata
yum clean dbcache
yum update

or get nothing when there IS something to get!


What is happening is , the "yum" package isn't in the updates repo. and 
"yum-utils" needs it to satisfy dependencies.
I use Yumex and all I did was uncheck the "yum-utils" to finish updates, 
in a couple of days someone will put the

"yum" package in the update repo.

Check this site below it will show you how to fix your problem.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key#Known_Issues

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why does Firefox 3.0.1 ad block work only occasionally

[landon kelsey]

I am talking about blocking on the same site.

Somebody has figured a way to get past the pop-up blocker!

www.intellicast.com

A little window from a blocked site pops up!

Yes I reported it!

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Re: first yum went OK, however the second got the following

[Jim]

Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 19:28 -0400, Jim wrote:
  

Paul W. Frields wrote:


On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 18:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
  
  

landon kelsey wrote:



Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package yum-utils.noarch 0:1.1.16-1.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 for package: yum-utils
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)



  
  
 i ran into the same problem, I going to wait a few days and run the 
update for yum, by then somebody will fix the dependency.



No need to wait, read the notice here for help:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key#Known_Issues 

  
  
I did read that wiki and updated the new Key , that does not fix the Yum 
update, The "yum-utils" shows up in the updates, but the "yum" package 
is not in the updates, that is what's causing the problems, no "yum" 
package.
Thats why I said someone will catch it in a few days and put the "yum" 
package in the updates repo.



That link I sent above gives you the exact command you need so that you
*don't* have to wait.

  
I see what you mean, I was using Yumex and when i saw that the yum 
package wasn't available  I just unchecked

yum-utils so I could complete the update.

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yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS

[landon kelsey]

my yum update now show all done

I was told one must do these occasionally :

yum clean all
yum clean metadata
yum clean dbcache
yum update

or get nothing when there IS something to get!




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Re: Yum Error

[Jim]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 17:20 -0400, Jim wrote:
  

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:50 -0400, Jim wrote:
  
  

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:



On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:11 -0400, Jim wrote:
  
  
  

FC9.  KDE-4.1.0

Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install KDE-4.1.1 
from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to  
install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;




Rawhide is for F10.

poc

  
  
  

I know that.
But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.



Obviously it could be compiled for F9, but the binaries on Rawhide are
compiled for F10 with F10 dependencies. Or did you mean you were trying
to install the source rpms?

poc

  
  
I know this may shock you Patrick but I now have kde-4.1.1-fc10 running 
in FC9. No error messages.



It doesn't shock me though it does surprise me somewhat, if you mean you
didn't have to install any extra dependencies such as system libraries.
However if it worked then good for you.

poc

  
Using Yumex I did a refresh in Rawhide and selected the kde-4.1.1 
packages and dependencies where satisfied.


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Re: Q re F8 and updates

[Ed Greshko]

Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings;
>
> I'm reading about all the yum problems, but none of them have given a clue 
> that will help me.
>
> My yum, or yumex, is not showing me an updated fedora-release package, so 
> obviously I cannot even do a yum update yum-keys.
>
> Is there not such a file for F8 yet, or is there a hand edit I need to do for 
> fedora-updates.repo?
>
>   
Don't have f8 to check...  However, it could be exactly what happened on
my f9 system.  Running "yum update" came back with no packages to
update.  Obviously my system was calling up a mirror that hadn't been
synced yet.  So, I just did a few "yum clean all ; yum update" until a
suitable mirror was accessed.



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Re: Q re F8 and updates

[Todd Zullinger]

Gene Heskett wrote:
> I'm reading about all the yum problems, but none of them have given
> a clue that will help me.
> 
> My yum, or yumex, is not showing me an updated fedora-release
> package, so obviously I cannot even do a yum update yum-keys.

There is no need to do anything with the yum-keys package.

> Is there not such a file for F8 yet, or is there a hand edit I need
> to do for fedora-updates.repo?

The updated fedora-release package is in the repositories now, and yum
should have updated it for you.  If not, see:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key

for how you can update manually.

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Re: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled

[landon kelsey]

DUDE! YOU ARE THE MAN!  That worked!!!

This is a great mail list (with very few exceptions)!

EE HAH!

Thanks!






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Subject: Re: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 

Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 8:13 PM

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Gerald Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I am not sure if its the mirrors I used but this is how I resolved it
>
> yum update yum
> let that process
> yum update yum-utils
> let that process
> done
>

Worked for me, too. Thanks for passing it on, Gerald!

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Re: Q re F8 and updates

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 21:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings;
> 
> I'm reading about all the yum problems, but none of them have given a clue 
> that will help me.
> 
> My yum, or yumex, is not showing me an updated fedora-release package, so 
> obviously I cannot even do a yum update yum-keys.
> 
> Is there not such a file for F8 yet, or is there a hand edit I need to do for 
> fedora-updates.repo?

if you read all about the yum problems, how is it that you missed
this...

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key

???

Craig

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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[landon kelsey]

I don't need a recipe for cereal and milk! I could call mommy!

Maybe a site for how to use the mouse or how to plug in the computer!

I do need a recipe for C# C++ PHP XML XSLT SQL Qt4.4 and even some of that is 
intuitive!

I got Eclipse working with QT using only ONLY intuition and it is cool!

I grew up the university route and have read millions of pages. 

10,000+ on C++ alone!

FORTRAN was intuitive (learn in 5 minutes) and so was adaptive control theory!

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From: Arthur Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks 
thread.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for 
using Fedora." 
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 8:04 PM

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>
>>> http://userbase.kde.org/ , for those that need it.
>>>
>> You mean there are people that can not figure it out from "the
new
>> Userbase wiki - userbase.kde.org"?
>
> It may be easy to figure out,
> but it is still better to give the proper URL,
> as then one can click on it to go to the site in question.
>


It's a plain text email. Whether you can click on it or not is
entirely up to your email client. I can click on all the urls given so
far.



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Re: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled

[Ted Roche]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Gerald Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am not sure if its the mirrors I used but this is how I resolved it
>
> yum update yum
> let that process
> yum update yum-utils
> let that process
> done
>

Worked for me, too. Thanks for passing it on, Gerald!

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Q re F8 and updates

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings;

I'm reading about all the yum problems, but none of them have given a clue 
that will help me.

My yum, or yumex, is not showing me an updated fedora-release package, so 
obviously I cannot even do a yum update yum-keys.

Is there not such a file for F8 yet, or is there a hand edit I need to do for 
fedora-updates.repo?

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on the bright side

[landon kelsey]

I got tons of super great stuff for free!

I got Qt 4.4 and it did not require any change in environment!

I got a KDE that doesn't herd a bunch of items and fragments in the system 
tray(is that what you call it) as 4.0.5 did!

I used KDE for years without knowing what the taskbar was. It was obvious and 
to the credit of the creators that it was intuitive!

The only problem I had with KDE 4.4 was under the user where I erased the old 
panel and created a new panel! This was a disaster but it works! I hate the way 
it looks!

I clicked every button everywhere and cannot find anything barely promising to 
change the color or put the panel anywhere but the top! AND I am persistent! 

I was hoping this time for "panel hide" I was accustomed to using this on pre 
4.x KDEs and XP prof.





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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick Stevens wrote:
>
>> Yes--especially when the release notes for F9 state in no uncertain
>> terms that KDE 4.x was a work in progress and the 4.0 version included
>> in F9 was a prerelease.  The OP has no one to blame but himself for
>> using KDE in its current state.
>
> I don't agree with that.

We've already agreed that we aren't all going to agree on this.

> I don't like the way this "bleeding edge" mantra is used
> to justify what are in fact simple mistakes.

It's not a justification, it is an explanation, I don't think anyone
has implied otherwise.

> Everyone makes mistakes; it's better just to acknowledge them,
> and not pretend they are part of some great scheme of things.

Again, no one has implied that not being featureful is in the grand
scheme of things.

> I don't think KDE-4 was ready to release.
> It had too many minor problems.
> They weren't that serious, just slightly annoying.

That, again, is entirely up to opinion. The release likely greatly
sped up the finding of these issues.

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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>
>>> http://userbase.kde.org/ , for those that need it.
>>>
>> You mean there are people that can not figure it out from "the new
>> Userbase wiki - userbase.kde.org"?
>
> It may be easy to figure out,
> but it is still better to give the proper URL,
> as then one can click on it to go to the site in question.
>


It's a plain text email. Whether you can click on it or not is
entirely up to your email client. I can click on all the urls given so
far.



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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Timothy Murphy]

Rick Stevens wrote:

> Yes--especially when the release notes for F9 state in no uncertain
> terms that KDE 4.x was a work in progress and the 4.0 version included
> in F9 was a prerelease.  The OP has no one to blame but himself for
> using KDE in its current state.

I don't agree with that.
I don't like the way this "bleeding edge" mantra is used
to justify what are in fact simple mistakes.
Everyone makes mistakes; it's better just to acknowledge them,
and not pretend they are part of some great scheme of things.

I don't think KDE-4 was ready to release.
It had too many minor problems.
They weren't that serious, just slightly annoying.

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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable !

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 17:43 -0700, Aldo Foot wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
> > From this and other posts, I don't think the OP "gets" the Fedora
> > philosophy. Maybe Fedora is the wrong distribution for him? There is
> > a reason there is more then one Linux distribution. It lets you
> > chose the best match for your needs and desires.

> I don't think there will ever be a unified opinion on this KDE 4.x thing.
> I'll just keep going... and going.
> Maybe there should be a disclaimer in fine print: "Use at your own risk"

I would have thought the 'leading edge' designation somewhat establishes
that. It seems that there are some with the expectation that Fedora
represent 'stable' in which case, they should probably only upgrade to
the current stable which at this point is Fedora 8 and upgrade to Fedora
9 at the point when Fedora 10 is released, etc. (or of course, use a
different distribution that is less 'leading edge')

Craig

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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[Timothy Murphy]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

>> http://userbase.kde.org/ , for those that need it.
>> 
> You mean there are people that can not figure it out from "the new
> Userbase wiki - userbase.kde.org"?

It may be easy to figure out,
but it is still better to give the proper URL,
as then one can click on it to go to the site in question.

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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable !

[Aldo Foot]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 12:24 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
 What is totally unacceptable is to ship an OS that totally lacks the
 very basic functionality that one uses everyday.
>>> KDE is not an OS.
>>
>> I really didn't think anyone needed to address that. I kinda hopes the
>> OP was trying to make some point by using that wording, which I simply
>> didn't get.
>>
>> There are things that I don't like about KDE 4.1, speed is the biggest
>> one, crap, it is not.
>>
> From this and other posts, I don't think the OP "gets" the Fedora
> philosophy. Maybe Fedora is the wrong distribution for him? There is
> a reason there is more then one Linux distribution. It lets you
> chose the best match for your needs and desires.
>
> Mikkel
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I don't think there will ever be a unified opinion on this KDE 4.x thing.
I'll just keep going... and going.
Maybe there should be a disclaimer in fine print: "Use at your own risk"

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Re: Yum Updates: Cobbler

[Todd Zullinger]

Dan Thurman wrote:
> During the Yum updates of cobbler, I got:
>
> Updating   : cobbler   [329/789]
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/bin/cobbler", line 17, in 
>  import cobbler.cobbler as app
> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/cobbler.py", line 26, in 
> 
>  import api
> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/api.py", line 207
>  <<< HEAD:cobbler/api.py
>   ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> Stopping cobbler daemon: [  OK  ]
> Starting cobbler daemon: Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/bin/cobblerd", line 19, in 
>  import cobbler.api as bootapi
> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/api.py", line 207
>  <<< HEAD:cobbler/api.py
>   ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> [FAILED]
> error: %post(cobbler-1.2.0-1.fc9.noarch) scriptlet failed, exit status 1

This is fixed in a subsequent update, which is now in updates-testing¹
(well, updates-testing-newkey technically :).

¹ cobbler-1.2.1.fc9 (There are a few more cobbler updates in the
pipeline as well, so you may see cobbler-1.2.4-1.fc9 and never get
1.2.1.)

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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable !

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 12:24 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
>>> What is totally unacceptable is to ship an OS that totally lacks the
>>> very basic functionality that one uses everyday.
>> KDE is not an OS.
> 
> I really didn't think anyone needed to address that. I kinda hopes the
> OP was trying to make some point by using that wording, which I simply
> didn't get.
> 
> There are things that I don't like about KDE 4.1, speed is the biggest
> one, crap, it is not.
> 
From this and other posts, I don't think the OP "gets" the Fedora
philosophy. Maybe Fedora is the wrong distribution for him? There is
a reason there is more then one Linux distribution. It lets you
chose the best match for your needs and desires.

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Re: laptop update issue

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:46:08 -0700
Aldo Foot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I guess you could worry about NetworkManager later.
> Would it work for you?

I considered that, but then what do I do about Network Manager?

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Re: laptop update issue

[Aldo Foot]

In the Fedora Announce list there was a similar question today and they
suggested to give yum the --exclude option:
# yum --exclude NetworkManager update

I guess you could worry about NetworkManager later.
Would it work for you?

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Yum Updates: Cobbler

[Dan Thurman]

During the Yum updates of cobbler, I got:

 Updating   : cobbler   [329/789]
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/bin/cobbler", line 17, in 
   import cobbler.cobbler as app
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/cobbler.py", line 26, 
in 

   import api
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/api.py", line 207
   <<< HEAD:cobbler/api.py
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Stopping cobbler daemon: [  OK  ]
Starting cobbler daemon: Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/bin/cobblerd", line 19, in 
   import cobbler.api as bootapi
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cobbler/api.py", line 207
   <<< HEAD:cobbler/api.py
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[FAILED]
error: %post(cobbler-1.2.0-1.fc9.noarch) scriptlet failed, exit status 1

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Re: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled

[Gerald Thompson]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Paul W. Frields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 08:02 -1000, Dave Burns wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Paul W. Frields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > # yum --exclude yum --excluce yum-utils update
>>
>> excluce typographic error
>
> Whoops, that's what I get for typing it longhand.
>
> # yum --exclude yum --exclude yum-utils update
>
> The danger of getting too used to the little red squiggles. ;-)
>
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I am not sure if its the mirrors I used but this is how I resolved it

yum update yum
let that process
yum update yum-utils
let that process
done

of course they may have fixed it by the time I posted this.

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Re: Yum Error

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 17:20 -0400, Jim wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:50 -0400, Jim wrote:
> >   
> >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:11 -0400, Jim wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>   
>  FC9.  KDE-4.1.0
> 
>  Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install KDE-4.1.1 
>  from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to  
>  install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;
>  
>  
> >>> Rawhide is for F10.
> >>>
> >>> poc
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >> I know that.
> >> But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.
> >> 
> >
> > Obviously it could be compiled for F9, but the binaries on Rawhide are
> > compiled for F10 with F10 dependencies. Or did you mean you were trying
> > to install the source rpms?
> >
> > poc
> >
> >   
> I know this may shock you Patrick but I now have kde-4.1.1-fc10 running 
> in FC9. No error messages.

It doesn't shock me though it does surprise me somewhat, if you mean you
didn't have to install any extra dependencies such as system libraries.
However if it worked then good for you.

poc

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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[landon kelsey]

ridiculous! does anybody put directions on a toilet?

www.howtouse_toilette.com

It should be intuitive/straightforward to move the panel to the bottom

or change the color!

My field is C# C++ RDB and there it is imperative to read the directions 
prodigiously!

Does anybody need a recipe for cheese and crackers!





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Subject: Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks 
thread.
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 

Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:05 PM

linuxguy wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 22:05 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> On Wednesday 10 September 2008 21:03:22 linuxguy wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 20:50 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
 A good place to find info about KDE 4 is the new Userbase wiki
-
 userbase.kde.org.  It's a long way off being finished yet,
but it's a
 huge
 task.  However, there's already a lot there and more being
added every
 day.
>>> URL Please ?
>> Read it - it's there in the message above
> 
> http://userbase.kde.org/ , for those that need it.
> 
You mean there are people that can not figure it out from "the new
Userbase wiki - userbase.kde.org"?

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Re: first yum went OK, however the second got the following

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 19:28 -0400, Jim wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 18:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
> >   
> >> landon kelsey wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Setting up Update Process
> >>> Resolving Dependencies
> >>> --> Running transaction check
> >>> ---> Package yum-utils.noarch 0:1.1.16-1.fc9 set to be updated
> >>> --> Processing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 for package: yum-utils
> >>> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> >>> yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
> >>>   --> Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
> >>> yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
> >>> Error: Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
> >>> yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>  i ran into the same problem, I going to wait a few days and run the 
> >> update for yum, by then somebody will fix the dependency.
> >> 
> >
> > No need to wait, read the notice here for help:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key#Known_Issues 
> >
> >   
> I did read that wiki and updated the new Key , that does not fix the Yum 
> update, The "yum-utils" shows up in the updates, but the "yum" package 
> is not in the updates, that is what's causing the problems, no "yum" 
> package.
> Thats why I said someone will catch it in a few days and put the "yum" 
> package in the updates repo.

That link I sent above gives you the exact command you need so that you
*don't* have to wait.

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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 12:24 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
>> What is totally unacceptable is to ship an OS that totally lacks the
>> very basic functionality that one uses everyday.
>
> KDE is not an OS.

I really didn't think anyone needed to address that. I kinda hopes the
OP was trying to make some point by using that wording, which I simply
didn't get.

There are things that I don't like about KDE 4.1, speed is the biggest
one, crap, it is not.

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Re: first yum went OK, however the second got the following

[Jim]

Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 18:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
  

landon kelsey wrote:


Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package yum-utils.noarch 0:1.1.16-1.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 for package: yum-utils
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)



  
 i ran into the same problem, I going to wait a few days and run the 
update for yum, by then somebody will fix the dependency.



No need to wait, read the notice here for help:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key#Known_Issues 

  
I did read that wiki and updated the new Key , that does not fix the Yum 
update, The "yum-utils" shows up in the updates, but the "yum" package 
is not in the updates, that is what's causing the problems, no "yum" 
package.
Thats why I said someone will catch it in a few days and put the "yum" 
package in the updates repo.


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Re: blue screen of death after logout

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

"Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I suspect that the intel driver has a bug.

Or an X race condition.  I get problems with X restarting badly every
once in a while (and this is across a very large number of different
brand and chipset framebuffers.)  In my case I can usually get it to
fix itself by going to an ascii terminal (such as the ctl-alt-f1 one)
and then back again with ctl-alt-f7.  If that doesn't work the big
hammer of ctl-alt-bs (or ctl-alt-del for some folks).

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latest bind is screwed (was Re: New key: updating yum/yum-utils depsolving problem)

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

"Kevin J. Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Any ideas?  I've disabled yum-kmdl, and I'm updating piecemeal in the
> meantime.  I'll post back when I find the culprit.  SO far, bind,
> bind-utils, bind-libs, fakeroot, galculator, glabels, glabels-doc, and
> glabels-libs have updated OK by themselves

Be careful with "bind".  This version has an internal inconsistency
where it expects to allow 1024 files to be open, but a compiled in
constant in another section of the code limits it to 128 files.  The
upshot is bind fails to start properly and everything quickly goes to
hell in a hand basket as name resolution grinds to a halt.  The
subsequent boot will hang whenever it tries to resolve anything.

The workaround is to add "files 1024;" to the options section in
named.conf.  (I can't believe bind really thinks it needs 1024 files
open at one point.  This is so far over the top it is insane.)

.../etc/named.conf:

options {
...
// Sep 10 04:24:18 arbol named[20283]: the 'files' limit (128)
// is less than FD_SETSIZE (1024), increase 'files' in
// named.conf or recompile with a smaller FD_SETSIZE.
//
files 1024; // needed on BIND 9.5.0-P2 -u named -wsr 2008-09-10
...
};

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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

linuxguy wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 22:05 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> On Wednesday 10 September 2008 21:03:22 linuxguy wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 20:50 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
 A good place to find info about KDE 4 is the new Userbase wiki -
 userbase.kde.org.  It's a long way off being finished yet, but it's a
 huge
 task.  However, there's already a lot there and more being added every
 day.
>>> URL Please ?
>> Read it - it's there in the message above
> 
> http://userbase.kde.org/ , for those that need it.
> 
You mean there are people that can not figure it out from "the new
Userbase wiki - userbase.kde.org"?

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Re: first yum went OK, however the second got the following

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 18:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
> landon kelsey wrote:
> > Setting up Update Process
> > Resolving Dependencies
> > --> Running transaction check
> > ---> Package yum-utils.noarch 0:1.1.16-1.fc9 set to be updated
> > --> Processing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 for package: yum-utils
> > --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> > yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
> >   --> Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
> > yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
> > Error: Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
> > yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
> >
> >
>  i ran into the same problem, I going to wait a few days and run the 
> update for yum, by then somebody will fix the dependency.

No need to wait, read the notice here for help:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key#Known_Issues 

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Re: first yum went OK, however the second got the following

[Jim]

landon kelsey wrote:

Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package yum-utils.noarch 0:1.1.16-1.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 for package: yum-utils
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)



i ran into the same problem, I going to wait a few days and run the 
update for yum, by then somebody will fix the dependency.


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PPC Dependency Issues in mock

[Jameson]

I'm trying to use mock to test building packages on architectures I
don't have access to (PPC and PPC64), but am running into some
trouble.  Using an unmodified config file, mock -r fedora-9-ppc --init
is giving me a lot of dependency errors, starting with Missing
Dependency: perl(Getopt::Long), and getting worse with things like
Missing Dependency: /bin/sh and Missing Dependency: /bin/bash.
Obviously, since I can't even get bash installed, I can't shell into
the chroot to look around.  Any idea what's wrong?  I have changed my
default config (for i386) to use local repo mirrors.

Thanks,
=-Jameson

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first yum went OK, however the second got the following

[landon kelsey]

Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package yum-utils.noarch 0:1.1.16-1.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 for package: yum-utils
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)




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laptop update issue

[Frank Cox]

I'm trying to run "yum update" on a F8 laptop that hasn't been updated for a
few months.

It goes through all of the motions, downloads all of the updates, then I get
this:

QUOTE:
Transaction Summary
=
Install 17 Package(s) 
Update 313 Package(s) 
Remove   1 Package(s) 

Total download size: 726 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
Package NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib = 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3235.fc8,
this is not available. Package NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib =
1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3235.fc8, this is not available. Complete!
END OF QUOTE



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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[linuxguy]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 22:05 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 September 2008 21:03:22 linuxguy wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 20:50 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > A good place to find info about KDE 4 is the new Userbase wiki -
> > > userbase.kde.org.  It's a long way off being finished yet, but it's a
> > > huge
> > > task.  However, there's already a lot there and more being added every
> > > day.
> >
> > URL Please ?
> 
> Read it - it's there in the message above

http://userbase.kde.org/ , for those that need it.

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Re: Yum Error

[Jim]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:50 -0400, Jim wrote:
  

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:11 -0400, Jim wrote:
  
  

FC9.  KDE-4.1.0

Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install KDE-4.1.1 
from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to  
install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;



Rawhide is for F10.

poc

  
  

I know that.
But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.



Obviously it could be compiled for F9, but the binaries on Rawhide are
compiled for F10 with F10 dependencies. Or did you mean you were trying
to install the source rpms?

poc

  
I know this may shock you Patrick but I now have kde-4.1.1-fc10 running 
in FC9. No error messages.


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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 10 September 2008 21:03:22 linuxguy wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 20:50 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > A good place to find info about KDE 4 is the new Userbase wiki -
> > userbase.kde.org.  It's a long way off being finished yet, but it's a
> > huge
> > task.  However, there's already a lot there and more being added every
> > day.
>
> URL Please ?

Read it - it's there in the message above

Anne


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Re: requeueing mail (sendmail)

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Does someone know of a nice tool to move things between mail queues such
> that special problems can be handled, such as longer than default retry
> for certain systems, run only at a certain time, run unlikely to work
> stuff occasionally only, from a special q, etc.
> 
> I can do this with some perl scripting, but the locking needed to be
> reliable is ugly, I have to maintain it, and it will be just the minimum
> functionality I need to solve my current problem. If there's some spiffy
> solution I missed it would be a timesaver.
> 
Sendmail can do it - you have to get into the more advanced
configuration. You don't need to put the mail in separate queues -
you can set different rules for different destinations. But you will
probably need a Sendmail guru to set it up for you.

You may be able to do the same with Postfix but I have never checked
on it.

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Re: phpMyAdmin logout prompts for user/password again

[Don Russell]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don Russell kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika keskiviikko, 10.
> syyskuuta 2008):
> > It works fine, but when I exit from phpMyAdmin (use the exit
> > icon/button), I get another HTTP/1.1 401 Not Authorized prompt
> > for a user id/password again instead of a "clean" exit that
> > just says something like "You are now logged out, click here
> > to login again".
>
> You have set up phpMyAdmin to use the HTTP authentication mode.
> Switch to cookie authentication and you get a normal login
> screen. See:
> http://www.phpmyadmin.net/documentation/#authentication_modes

Thank you. I did not set up HTTP authentication, it must be that way
"out of the box" when installing it on Fedora.
I will look into using cookie authentication as you suggest.


> > Is this something I should create a bug report on?

> No.

Now I know it's a configuration thing :-)

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Re: Yum Error

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:50 -0400, Jim wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:11 -0400, Jim wrote:
> >   
> >> FC9.  KDE-4.1.0
> >>
> >> Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install KDE-4.1.1 
> >> from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to  
> >> install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;
> >> 
> >
> > Rawhide is for F10.
> >
> > poc
> >
> >   
> I know that.
> But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.

Obviously it could be compiled for F9, but the binaries on Rawhide are
compiled for F10 with F10 dependencies. Or did you mean you were trying
to install the source rpms?

poc

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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 12:24 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 11:14 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 12:07 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
> > > I got updated to KDE 4.1 this morning.  It looks a lot better.
> > > 
> > > I have a couple questions.
> > > 
> > > 1) How do I install application icons in the panel ?  I would like an
> > > icon for Konqueror, Evolution, Dolphin, etc.  I think it used to be in
> > > Add Widgets or something like that.  Where is it now ?
> > 
> > right click in empty space but to be honest, I've found that launchers
> > in the main panel disappointing
> 
> I have right clicked.   I don't see how to add a single icon for a
> single application.  Ie: one used to be able to add an Evolution icon
> and if you clicked it, it launched Evolution.  I don't want to go
> through the menu to start commonly used applications all the time.

Craig was mistaken. Right-click on empty space to a get a menu which
includes adding widgets. To add an app, Right-click on it in Kicker (or
Dolphin).

> > 
> > > 
> > > 2) How do I resize the Desktop folder view ?   I click the resize icon
> > > in the taskbar that appears on the side.  If I try long enough I can get
> > > the folderview to move.  But I can't seem to resize it.  What am I doing
> > > wrong ?
> > 
> > Desktop folder widget is awfully unfinished at the moment
> 
> This is a totally unacceptable statement.  I understand that Fedora is
> bleeding edge.  I've been running RH/F since RH8.  I understand that
> there might be bugs.
> 
> What is totally unacceptable is to ship an OS that totally lacks the
> very basic functionality that one uses everyday.

KDE is not an OS.

poc

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Re: KDE 4.1: Whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 20:09 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> In Dolphin, find the app you want and right-click on it.  It 
> offers to put it onto the desktop or onto the panel.

This also works directly from the Kicker in case you aren't running
Dolphin.

poc

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Re: Update from New Repository Fails

[Bill Davidsen]

Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

Attempting to access the new the repository according to the
instructions just released in fedora-announce-list has hit a snag.  The
initial update, to yum, etc. appeared to work OK, except that some RPMs
in Livna appear to be in sync with the new Fedora Repos, and not with
the RPMs on my system -- I requested that they not be updated and
everything seems to have gone OK.

The update tool (pirut) reported 114 updates; I requested that "Update
System".  But pirut reports "Dependency resolution failed" with the
error box:
samba-common = 3.2.0-1.rc1.15.fc9 is needed by package
samba-winbind-3.2.0-1.rc1.15.fc9.x86_64
yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch
(updates-newkey)
Dependency resolution is still going on after about 15 minutes, so there
may be more dependency failures coming.


Might I make a WAG here, that you did a partial upgrade by excluding 
some parts of yum from the upgrade from the old archive? And now you 
don't have the yum you need to use the new archive?


I would suggest "yum upgrade yum\*" and see if you are lucky and have 
enough functional parts to finish the initial upgrade. If that doesn't 
work you may have a real problem.


Under the circumstances it seems better to ask for advice than muddle my
way forward.  Any advice?

jon





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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[linuxguy]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 20:50 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> A good place to find info about KDE 4 is the new Userbase wiki - 
> userbase.kde.org.  It's a long way off being finished yet, but it's a
> huge 
> task.  However, there's already a lot there and more being added every
> day.

URL Please ?

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Re: ipop3d logwatch entry suspicious

[James Wilkinson]

I wrote:
> You need to plan around a security problem being found with your version
> of ipop3d. Either you need to follow the appropriate security lists, and
> be ready to patch your version of ipop3d quickly, or you need to use a
> supported operating system which will do this for you.

Roberto Figueroa wrote:
> Thanks James for your advice.
> 
> Another question: where can I find those security list...or more specific
> mailing list related to ipop3d?

Actually, I was trying to hint that this is what you *don’t* want to do!

I believe that ipop3d in FC5 comes from the University of Washington at
http://www.washington.edu/imap/ : run something like
rpm -qif /usr/sbin/ipop3d
and check the URL line. You will find a link to
http://www.washington.edu/imap/lists/imap-uw.html on that page, which
seems to be the best list.

But there’s a couple of other things you need to bear in mind.

If you’re going to use otherwise-unsupported software, you need to do
this with every service you expose to the Internet. You should be aware
of every service you offer to the Internet, anyway.

You may well need to be examining your MTA software (probably sendmail,
postfix, exim, or qmail), OpenSSH, and maybe stuff like Samba, bind and
Cups. The few Linux viruses to date have spread this way (Lion used bind
and Ramen used lpd – both exploited vulnerabilities in Red Hat Linux for
which Red Hat had issued patches).

Part of what a distribution should be offering you is that it will
monitor these lists for you. You just have one place to go to look for
updates. They should also have someone monitoring mailing lists like
Bugtraq, which contains reports of security problems found by third
parties. They also have access to vendor-sec, a closed distributor-only
list co-ordinating upcoming security patches.

Were you actually intending to offer POP3 access across the Internet?
You may well have intended this: it’s a reasonable thing to do IF you’re
offering e-mail service to people outside your network.

James.

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Re: panel at the bottom in KDE 4.1...several problems

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 10 September 2008 20:38:10 landon kelsey wrote:
> did the yum update (GREAT to have it back)
>
> how does one move the KDE 4.1 panel to the bottom
>
> and make other settings (size, color background, etc)
>
> and
>
> shorten the dictionary slot (it will NOT take an entry)
>
> and remove dictionary slot (did that myself using add widget and "-")
>
> and
>
> get the taskbar on the left as it was in 4.0.5

If you go to http://userbase.kde.org/Glossary you will see many links to 
youtube videos.  These things become much easier when you've seen someone do 
them.

Anne


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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 10 September 2008 20:36:44 linuxguy wrote:
> I'm starting this thread to allow people to post or read tips and tricks
> to using the new desktop paradigm in KDE4.1.  I'm far from an expert
> with the new KDE4.1 paradigm.  In fact, I am a total newbie to using it
> properly.
>
>
> To resize a folder view:
> Click on the folder and get the side task bar to emerge.  Drag the
> resize icon itself to resize the folder.   Dragging the folder edges or
> corners does not seem to resize the folder.
>
> To add a new folder view:
> Right click on the Desktop.  Select Add Widgets.  The Add Widgets window
> should appear.  Select Folder View.  A new folder view should appear.
>
> Problem: I resized my Desktop folder view to take about 1/2 of my
> desktop.  Now I can't move it using the top title bar.
>
> Question: Is there a way so that when I click on a folder in a folder
> view that it opens a new folder rather than with dolphin ?
>
A good place to find info about KDE 4 is the new Userbase wiki - 
userbase.kde.org.  It's a long way off being finished yet, but it's a huge 
task.  However, there's already a lot there and more being added every day.

Anne


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panel at the bottom in KDE 4.1...several problems

[landon kelsey]

did the yum update (GREAT to have it back)

how does one move the KDE 4.1 panel to the bottom

and make other settings (size, color background, etc)

and

shorten the dictionary slot (it will NOT take an entry)

and remove dictionary slot (did that myself using add widget and "-")

and 

get the taskbar on the left as it was in 4.0.5



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KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[linuxguy]

I'm starting this thread to allow people to post or read tips and tricks
to using the new desktop paradigm in KDE4.1.  I'm far from an expert
with the new KDE4.1 paradigm.  In fact, I am a total newbie to using it
properly.


To resize a folder view: 
Click on the folder and get the side task bar to emerge.  Drag the
resize icon itself to resize the folder.   Dragging the folder edges or
corners does not seem to resize the folder.

To add a new folder view:
Right click on the Desktop.  Select Add Widgets.  The Add Widgets window
should appear.  Select Folder View.  A new folder view should appear.

Problem: I resized my Desktop folder view to take about 1/2 of my
desktop.  Now I can't move it using the top title bar.

Question: Is there a way so that when I click on a folder in a folder
view that it opens a new folder rather than with dolphin ?

Thanks
 



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Re: grandma-rated mail reader

[Mike]

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht  gmail.com> writes:

> Maybe I'll try taping a cheat-sheet to the side of the monitor.

OK I sympathise - in my case grandma was 83 when she started out with FC1
and now she is 89! So things have had plenty of time to stabilise!

> The unexpected first problem is that she always seems to forget to
> actually send it when she is done typing.  A reminder pop-up would be

Forgetting to click things, or clicking when the mouse is not in the
correct place for focus will happen many times - but over time it will
likely occur less.

Chances are you will find various incomplete compose windows lying around
behind the main mail client window - which won't have been sent. 
Slowly over time learning to send will become the norm... you will need
plenty of patience.

You may find that looking at the mouse or keyboard instead of where the 
cursor is can cause problems - also when referring to move the mouse 
I found it was clearer to say move the mouse, but watch where the little
cursor is - and make sure that the cursor is in "that" window before you
click... or similar helps with understanding.

When selecting recipients from a list again a clear explanation to make
sure that the correct recipient is selected, but then make sure that the
cursor is moved into the text area here before typing your message also
helps - but tends to be forgotten regularly at first.

In addition moving the cursor to below the signature line seems also to
occur - we added some white space in the compose text window to try to 
avoid that problem - but it still happens even now!

Good luck and hope it works in time



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Re: Yum Error

[Jim]

FC9.  KDE-4.1.0

Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install KDE-4.1.1 
from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to  
install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;


Error Downloading Packages:
  yum.YumRepo. YumRepository object at 
0xd69cpc>


I know it's a 'Key' problem but how do I fix it.
I downloaded and installed kernel-2.6.27-0.312.rc5.git7.fc10 from 
rawhide, into FC9 without any problems. I needed the later Kernel to get 
a Wireless card and Webcam to work on a eeePC-702.


In  etc/pki/rpm-gpg RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-rawhide and 
RPM-GPG-KEY-rawhide , the keys are the same as in http://download.redhat.com


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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 12:24 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 11:14 -0700, Craig White wrote:

> I can't begin to explain what a letdown F9 has been, between the KDE
> fiasco and the update security issue.  This is totally unlike any other
> RH/F experience I have ever had.

This has been thrashed ad nauseam on the list.

There is the philosophy expressed by Eric Raymond of 'The Cathedral and
the Bazaar' which advocates release early and often to push development
down the line...

http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/

I'm sorry that you are unhappy with KDE in its current state but it is
improving. Perhaps the 'leading edge' is not what you are seeking.

Craig

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Re: KDE 4.1: Whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 10 September 2008 19:52:36 Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
> 2008/9/10 linuxguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 1) How do I install application icons in the panel ?  I would like an
> > icon for Konqueror, Evolution, Dolphin, etc.  I think it used to be in
> > Add Widgets or something like that.  Where is it now ?
>
> I don't know if the panel fully supports this yet. I've put my most
> used applications to the Favourites tab in the main K menu.
>
I've had panel icons since 4.0.  They couldn't be moved around in 4.0, but 
they worked.  In Dolphin, find the app you want and right-click on it.  It 
offers to put it onto the desktop or onto the panel.

> > 3) Is there a way to make the folder view to take up the whole desktop,
> > for when I want a traditional look ?
>
> I have heard this is possible even in KDE 4.1, but not yet fully
> complete. It takes some extra work and disables the desktop wallpaper.
> Better support for this is coming in the future versions of KDE.
>
I believe it is possible.  I don't have 4.1 on this laptop yet, though.  I'll 
try to find more info tomorrow.

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Re: Yum Error

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 19:51 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 11:46 -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Just know about F8 & F9 keys being released today with latest updates.
> > Don't know about F10.
> > 
> 
> I don't believe Rawhide was affected.

Right, Rawhide doesn't have signed packages IIRC.  When F10 is released,
it will use a new F10 key that's already been prepared.  Q.v.:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/New_signing_key 

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Re: KDE4.1- Plasma crashing

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 10 September 2008 17:13:15 linuxguy wrote:
> On booting F9 with the recent KDE4.1 update, I get:
>
>
> A Fatal Error Occurred
> The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal
> 11 (SIGSEGV).
> Please help us improve the software you use by filing a report at
> http://bugs.kde.org. Useful details include how to reproduce the error,
> documents that were loaded, etc.
>
> $ plasma
> Plasma crashed, attempting to automatically recover
> plasma(2836): Communication problem with  "plasma" , it probably
> crashed.
> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message
> did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
>
> KCrash: Application 'plasma' crashing...
> sock_file=/home/krlux/.kde/socket-localhost.localdomain/kdeinit4__0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ plasma(2842): Communication problem with
> "plasma" , it probably crashed.
> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message
> did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> How does one wipe all the previous desktop settings out ?

You need to remove ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc and plasma-appletsrc

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Re: Update from New Repository Fails

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:54:31 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Ryshpan) wrote:

> Attempting to access the new the repository according to the
> instructions just released in fedora-announce-list has hit a snag.
> The initial update, to yum, etc. appeared to work OK, except that
> some RPMs in Livna appear to be in sync with the new Fedora Repos,
> and not with the RPMs on my system -- I requested that they not be
> updated and everything seems to have gone OK.
> 
> The update tool (pirut) reported 114 updates; I requested that "Update
> System".  But pirut reports "Dependency resolution failed" with the
> error box:
> samba-common = 3.2.0-1.rc1.15.fc9 is needed by package
> samba-winbind-3.2.0-1.rc1.15.fc9.x86_64
> yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package
> yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
> Dependency resolution is still going on after about 15 minutes, so
> there may be more dependency failures coming.
> 
> Under the circumstances it seems better to ask for advice than muddle
> my way forward.  Any advice?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key#Known_Issues

for the yum/yum-utils issue. 

The samba issue could be that you have a old samba-common.i386 package
installed? 

> jon

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Re: grandma-rated mail reader

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If she would be happy with text only, I would say pine (now
> re-re-labeled as "alpine"). I suspect that the people with whom she
> most wants to exchange mail are not limited to text, so that's likely
> to be a solution.

I'm happy with text only, but I think she may be confused without
having all the options and commands up on the screen for her to chose
from.

Maybe I'll try taping a cheat-sheet to the side of the monitor.

> You might look at the mail component of seamonkey. Mail isn't really
> simple these days, and 

I'm hoping to reduce the main functionality that she needs to see at
any point to:

read mail
reply to read mail
compose entirely new message
send reply or newly composed message off.

The unexpected first problem is that she always seems to forget to
actually send it when she is done typing.  A reminder pop-up would be
nice to have. ("you are attempting to close a window but still have an
N unsent messages.  Send now?")

The other problem is that she types when looking at gmail's text
boxes, but before she moves the cursor into the box.  She normally
ends up contaminating the formerly valid "To" address and the mail
later bounces with a "no such recipient error".  She is 80 though, so
I have to cut her quite a bit of slack.  I'm just not sure how to
explain things differently to make it click.  This is all new to me
too.  I'm hoping that a simpler interface that isn't that busy will
keep her from being overwhelmed by all the choices.

> .. hopefully she isn't going to have problems with UCE.

I'm using google mail as her mail server.  Google does an excellent
job of sorting spam.  I've tested their imap and smtp-ssl/tls
interface and they seems to work well enough for fedora's evolution to
act as a local MUA.  I assume all the other mail readers that support
imap and smtp-ssl will work too.

> alpine and seamonkey have packages.

Thanks!  I'll give them a spin too.

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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Rick Stevens]

Arthur Pemberton wrote:

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:24 PM, linuxguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I can't begin to explain what a letdown F9 has been, between the KDE
fiasco and the update security issue.  This is totally unlike any other
RH/F experience I have ever had.



This is clearly a matter of opinion.


Yes--especially when the release notes for F9 state in no uncertain
terms that KDE 4.x was a work in progress and the 4.0 version included
in F9 was a prerelease.  The OP has no one to blame but himself for
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Update from New Repository Fails

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

Attempting to access the new the repository according to the
instructions just released in fedora-announce-list has hit a snag.  The
initial update, to yum, etc. appeared to work OK, except that some RPMs
in Livna appear to be in sync with the new Fedora Repos, and not with
the RPMs on my system -- I requested that they not be updated and
everything seems to have gone OK.

The update tool (pirut) reported 114 updates; I requested that "Update
System".  But pirut reports "Dependency resolution failed" with the
error box:
samba-common = 3.2.0-1.rc1.15.fc9 is needed by package
samba-winbind-3.2.0-1.rc1.15.fc9.x86_64
yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch
(updates-newkey)
Dependency resolution is still going on after about 15 minutes, so there
may be more dependency failures coming.

Under the circumstances it seems better to ask for advice than muddle my
way forward.  Any advice?

jon


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Re: KDE 4.1: Whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Joonas Sarajärvi]

2008/9/10 linuxguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 1) How do I install application icons in the panel ?  I would like an
> icon for Konqueror, Evolution, Dolphin, etc.  I think it used to be in
> Add Widgets or something like that.  Where is it now ?

I don't know if the panel fully supports this yet. I've put my most
used applications to the Favourites tab in the main K menu.

> 2) How do I resize the Desktop folder view ?   I click the resize icon
> in the taskbar that appears on the side.  If I try long enough I can get
> the folderview to move.  But I can't seem to resize it.  What am I doing
> wrong ?
- Make sure your widgets aren't locked
- Point the folderview applet with your mouse. A "sidebar" should
appear next to the applet.
- Drag the resize button in the sidebar. It looks and acts a little
weird, but you'll get the idea when you try it a few times.

> 3) Is there a way to make the folder view to take up the whole desktop,
> for when I want a traditional look ?

I have heard this is possible even in KDE 4.1, but not yet fully
complete. It takes some extra work and disables the desktop wallpaper.
Better support for this is coming in the future versions of KDE.

> Excuse my ignorance but I am unclear how the whole folder view / new
> desktop paradigm is supposed to work.  My desktop used to be littered
> with file and folder icons.   What is it supposed to have now, a bunch
> of folder views ?

You can just use a single folderview like you would use a traditional
desktop with icons. Or you can organise your stuff into multiple
folderviews. For example, I have put my desktop application launchers
to their own folderview applet, so they don't get lost between the
everchanging heap of file icons. You can also choose to not use
desktop icons at all.

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Re: Yum Error

[Frank Murphy]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 11:46 -0700, Kam Leo wrote:

> 
> Just know about F8 & F9 keys being released today with latest updates.
> Don't know about F10.
> 

I don't believe Rawhide was affected.

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Re: Yum Error

[Kam Leo]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>

 On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:11 -0400, Jim wrote:


>
> FC9.  KDE-4.1.0
>
> Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install
> KDE-4.1.1
> from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to
>  install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;
>
>

 Rawhide is for F10.

 poc



>>>
>>> I know that.
>>> But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Have you applied the "New Key" and repository updates for yum? They'
>> should be available on the mirrors.
>>
>>
>
> Are these keys in the FC9 mirrors or F10 mirrors ?

Just know about F8 & F9 keys being released today with latest updates.
Don't know about F10.

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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:24 PM, linuxguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can't begin to explain what a letdown F9 has been, between the KDE
> fiasco and the update security issue.  This is totally unlike any other
> RH/F experience I have ever had.


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Re: blue screen of death after logout

[Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak]

Mine occasionally change to reading the "other" inputs, if you have 
input selection you might try that. Or just another monitor, to see if 
the monitor is in any way the culprit.


No, it's not that... the screen is blue, but if I move the mouse, I can 
see the gdm login dialog flicker by and disappear again (with incorrect 
sizing, etc). And the display pops up a status message saying that it is 
using the DVI input at 1600x1200, which is right.


I tried NEC Multisync LCD2170 and LCD2190 monitors, and they both did 
the same thing, so it isn't a dud monitor.


I suspect that the intel driver has a bug.

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Re: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 08:02 -1000, Dave Burns wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Paul W. Frields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > # yum --exclude yum --excluce yum-utils update
> 
> excluce typographic error

Whoops, that's what I get for typing it longhand.

# yum --exclude yum --exclude yum-utils update

The danger of getting too used to the little red squiggles. ;-)

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Re: yum debug?

[Kevin J. Cummings]

David Hlác(ik wrote:

Hello guys,

every time i will use yum, i will get the following. What does the DEBUG 
[] message at the end means, where does it comes from?


Regards,

David

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, fedorakmod, kernel-module, kmdl, refresh-
 : packagekit
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* skype: download.skype.com 
* livna: mirror.atrpms.net 
* fedora: ftp.sh.cvut.cz 
* adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com 
* updates: ftp.sh.cvut.cz 
livna| 2.1 kB 
00:00
http://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden

Trying other mirror.
fedora   | 2.4 kB 
00:00
http://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/fedora/linux/updates/9/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden

Trying other mirror.
updates  | 2.3 kB 
00:00
Setting up Update Process

Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package fedora-release.noarch 0:9-5.transition set to be updated
---> Package PackageKit-libs.i386 0:0.2.5-1.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package yum-packagekit.i386 0:0.2.5-1.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package gnome-packagekit.i386 0:0.2.5-2.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package PackageKit.i386 0:0.2.5-1.fc9 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
*DEBUG:
[]*


I think its part of the kmdl plugin, as I've just disabled that one on 
one of my systems and I don't see it anymore


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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[linuxguy]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 11:14 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 12:07 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
> > I got updated to KDE 4.1 this morning.  It looks a lot better.
> > 
> > I have a couple questions.
> > 
> > 1) How do I install application icons in the panel ?  I would like an
> > icon for Konqueror, Evolution, Dolphin, etc.  I think it used to be in
> > Add Widgets or something like that.  Where is it now ?
> 
> right click in empty space but to be honest, I've found that launchers
> in the main panel disappointing

I have right clicked.   I don't see how to add a single icon for a
single application.  Ie: one used to be able to add an Evolution icon
and if you clicked it, it launched Evolution.  I don't want to go
through the menu to start commonly used applications all the time.

> 
> > 
> > 2) How do I resize the Desktop folder view ?   I click the resize icon
> > in the taskbar that appears on the side.  If I try long enough I can get
> > the folderview to move.  But I can't seem to resize it.  What am I doing
> > wrong ?
> 
> Desktop folder widget is awfully unfinished at the moment

This is a totally unacceptable statement.  I understand that Fedora is
bleeding edge.  I've been running RH/F since RH8.  I understand that
there might be bugs.

What is totally unacceptable is to ship an OS that totally lacks the
very basic functionality that one uses everyday.

> 
> > 
> > 3) Is there a way to make the folder view to take up the whole desktop,
> > for when I want a traditional look ?
> 
> see above

See above.

> 
> > Excuse my ignorance but I am unclear how the whole folder view / new
> > desktop paradigm is supposed to work.  My desktop used to be littered
> > with file and folder icons.   What is it supposed to have now, a bunch
> > of folder views ? 
> 
> see above

See above.

I can't begin to explain what a letdown F9 has been, between the KDE
fiasco and the update security issue.  This is totally unlike any other
RH/F experience I have ever had.


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Re: Yum Error

[Jim]

Kam Leo wrote:

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:11 -0400, Jim wrote:

  

FC9.  KDE-4.1.0

Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install KDE-4.1.1
from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to
 install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;



Rawhide is for F10.

poc


  

I know that.
But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.




Have you applied the "New Key" and repository updates for yum? They'
should be available on the mirrors.

  

Are these keys in the FC9 mirrors or F10 mirrors ?

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Re: New key: updating yum/yum-utils depsolving problem

[Kevin J. Cummings]

Patrick wrote:

Hi,

Just installed the new key updates. All went well except for this one:


[snip]

I just ran update myself.  On my F9.x86_64 system, things went well, 113 
updates are installing.  On my F8.i686 system, not so well:


The first thing I did there was to update yum (and pygpgme).  That went 
fine, but the bulk update didn't:



Loaded plugins: downloadonly, fastestmirror, kmdl, stablemirror
stablemirror: the easily edited stablemirror file is 
"/var/cache/yum/stablemirrors"
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * atrpms: ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de
 * livna: rpm.livna.org
 * google: dl.google.com
 * dribble: dribble.org.uk
 * adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com
 * updates-newkey: fedora.mirrors.tds.net
 * updates: fedora.mirrors.tds.net
 * freshrpms: ayo.ie.freshrpms.net
 * fedora: fedora.mirrors.tds.net
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Excluding Packages from ATrpms - Stable
Finished
Excluding Packages from Livna for Fedora Core 8 - i386 - Base
Finished
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package xscreensaver-extras-gss.i386 1:5.07-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-core.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package bind-utils.i386 32:9.5.0-29.P2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package glabels.i386 0:2.2.2-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package tzdata-java.noarch 0:2008e-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 0:3.0.8-114.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package xscreensaver-base.i386 1:5.07-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package glabels-doc.i386 0:2.2.2-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package yum-fastestmirror.noarch 0:1.1.15-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package libedit.i386 0:2.11-1.20080712cvs.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package yum-utils.noarch 0:1.1.15-1.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package perl-Test-Harness.i386 0:2.56-41.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package bind-libs.i386 32:9.5.0-29.P2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package glabels-libs.i386 0:2.2.2-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package bind.i386 32:9.5.0-29.P2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-calc.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package kde-filesystem.noarch 0:4-17.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package libtiff-devel.i386 0:3.8.2-11.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package libxml2-python.i386 0:2.6.32-2.fc8 set to be updated
---> Package openoffice.org-javafilter.i386 1:2.3.0-6.16.fc8 set to be updated
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Re: KDE4.1- Plasma crashing

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 12:09 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 09:29 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  
> > > 
> > > Any ideas ?
> > > 
> > > How does one wipe all the previous desktop settings out ?
> > 
> > before you do that - try this...
> > 
> > as user in konsole...
> > 
> > kquitapp plasma && plasma &
> 
> That didn't work.
> 
> $ kquitapp plasma && plasma &
> [1] 4204
> $ (4205)/: Application "plasma" could not be found
> using service "org.kde.plasma" and path "/MainApplication" .
> 
> > but to answer your question...
> > 
> >  # to get to a virtual console
> > login as your normal user account
> > mv .kde .kde-bak
> >  # to get back to graphical login
> > login as usual - any settings/mail/whatever you need will be in your
> > $HOME/.kde-bak and you can copy/move back into the newly created
> > $HOME/.kde directory
> 
> This worked very well.  I copied .kde-backup/share/apps to my new .kde
> directory and I could log in without an error.   It didn't work if I
> copied .kde-backup/share though.
> 
> I hope this helps someone.

probably had something in ~/.kde/share/config that was a problem

Craig

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Re: KDE 4.1: Whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 12:07 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
> I got updated to KDE 4.1 this morning.  It looks a lot better.
> 
> I have a couple questions.
> 
> 1) How do I install application icons in the panel ?  I would like an
> icon for Konqueror, Evolution, Dolphin, etc.  I think it used to be in
> Add Widgets or something like that.  Where is it now ?

right click in empty space but to be honest, I've found that launchers
in the main panel disappointing

> 
> 2) How do I resize the Desktop folder view ?   I click the resize icon
> in the taskbar that appears on the side.  If I try long enough I can get
> the folderview to move.  But I can't seem to resize it.  What am I doing
> wrong ?

Desktop folder widget is awfully unfinished at the moment

> 
> 3) Is there a way to make the folder view to take up the whole desktop,
> for when I want a traditional look ?

see above

> Excuse my ignorance but I am unclear how the whole folder view / new
> desktop paradigm is supposed to work.  My desktop used to be littered
> with file and folder icons.   What is it supposed to have now, a bunch
> of folder views ? 

see above

Craig

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Re: KDE4.1- Plasma crashing

[linuxguy]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 09:29 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 
> > 
> > Any ideas ?
> > 
> > How does one wipe all the previous desktop settings out ?
> 
> before you do that - try this...
> 
> as user in konsole...
> 
> kquitapp plasma && plasma &

That didn't work.

$ kquitapp plasma && plasma &
[1] 4204
$ (4205)/: Application "plasma" could not be found
using service "org.kde.plasma" and path "/MainApplication" .

> but to answer your question...
> 
>  # to get to a virtual console
> login as your normal user account
> mv .kde .kde-bak
>  # to get back to graphical login
> login as usual - any settings/mail/whatever you need will be in your
> $HOME/.kde-bak and you can copy/move back into the newly created
> $HOME/.kde directory

This worked very well.  I copied .kde-backup/share/apps to my new .kde
directory and I could log in without an error.   It didn't work if I
copied .kde-backup/share though.

I hope this helps someone.


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KDE 4.1: Whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[linuxguy]

I got updated to KDE 4.1 this morning.  It looks a lot better.

I have a couple questions.

1) How do I install application icons in the panel ?  I would like an
icon for Konqueror, Evolution, Dolphin, etc.  I think it used to be in
Add Widgets or something like that.  Where is it now ?

2) How do I resize the Desktop folder view ?   I click the resize icon
in the taskbar that appears on the side.  If I try long enough I can get
the folderview to move.  But I can't seem to resize it.  What am I doing
wrong ?

3) Is there a way to make the folder view to take up the whole desktop,
for when I want a traditional look ?

Excuse my ignorance but I am unclear how the whole folder view / new
desktop paradigm is supposed to work.  My desktop used to be littered
with file and folder icons.   What is it supposed to have now, a bunch
of folder views ? 

Thanks

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Re: Yum Error

[Kam Leo]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:11 -0400, Jim wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> FC9.  KDE-4.1.0
>>>
>>> Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install KDE-4.1.1
>>> from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to
>>>  install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;
>>>
>>
>> Rawhide is for F10.
>>
>> poc
>>
>>
>
> I know that.
> But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.
>

Have you applied the "New Key" and repository updates for yum? They'
should be available on the mirrors.

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