Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio:
On Saturday 06 December 2008, Tim wrote: >Patrick O'Callaghan: >>> Turntables are also available. Ironically, a lot of these actually >>> come with Audacity even though they're marketed for Windows. > >Mikkel L. Ellertson: >> For example: >> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=TTUSB-PB-R&cpc=SCH > >I'd be very surprised if any of those plastic turntables were anything >but utter crap. But then they're aimed at the MP3/iPod users, where >audio quality is the least thing on their mind... > And if it outputs mp3's directly, its crap even if its a Fairchild Battleship. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Sentimentality -- that's what we call the sentiment we don't share. -- Graham Greene -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
On Saturday 06 December 2008, Fred Silsbee wrote: >--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From: Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: root in FC 10 >> To: fedora-list@redhat.com >> Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 12:04 AM >> >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> >>Disabling root login is a common security practice. >> >> Sounds like it's >> >> >>been disabled by default in F10. That's got to >> >> be a good thing. >> >> > Apparently so, but then the install doesn't add >> >> the one user it asks >> >> > you to define to the sudoers file, and to fix that >> >> requires a reboot >> >> > to single mode. >> >> No it doesn't. You run "su -c visudo" and >> add the user you want. And I'll repeat myself one more time here folks, it asked for the root passwd when I tried that, but no root passwd had been set during the install. The only user defined had a passwd ok, but the error message when I was that user, and used that users passwd was "not in sudoers file, permission denied". I tried to use as few multiple syllable words as I could, so I hope I have made myself clear as there seems to be a general and widespread air of disbelief here. That was not the command I issued that spit that back at me, but I don't think the command is germain to this discussion. In fact it was my attempt to vim ifcfg-eth0 to fix the networking that wasn't that brought this to my attention. I couldn't save the changes as the only user, and sudo denied the only user because there weas no entry in the sudoers file for that user. Ergo there was no way I could effect the required config changes without rebooting to single mode. Maybe there is a better, more "politicaly correct" way to do it, but a reboot to single mode has been my preferred choice since I installed RedHat 5.0 a decade plus back up the log. I *know* that works. Now, is that clear enough to convince "Houston" that we have a problem? >> -- >> ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: >> www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp >> ~~ >> The best advice I can give is to ignore advice. Life is too >> short to >> be distracted by the opinions of others. >> -- Russell Edson >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> Guidelines: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > >disabling root access is what the root password is for > >I've been logging into root for 11.5 tears on Linux alone without problems > >It is dumb to make it impossible for everybody. > >I understand this disablement can be removed by doing something in pam.d or > whatever it is. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Taxes, n.: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an extension. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum errors on rpmfusion in F10: Please help (SOLVED!)
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:44:19 -0800 (PST) "Dean S. Messing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The FAQ entry also contains a pointer to _this bug_: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459756 Yea, and it still isn't listed in the "Common Bugs" list the last time I checked. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum errors on rpmfusion in F10: Please help (SOLVED!)
I forgot to say THANK YOU MAX! for providing the clue to my problem with using the rpmfusion repos. Dean -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??
> > "Open-source code is generally great code, not requiring much support." > > > > What universe does Stuart Cohen live in? > > > So, what is your view? Generally crappy code in need of constant > support? Uh, oh. You didn't want to get me started on this... :-) Well, seeing as how in this new F10 release alone we have the DNS resolver library code broken for lots of people, the NetworkManager being used to replace network even though it screams "not ready for prime-time and not backward compatible" and GDM completely rewritten, leaving out vast chunks of functionality, I wouldn't exactly call it "not requiring much support". But my biggest issue with the open source model is the utter lack of any documentation for anything. And if, God Forbid, something should, over time, become well documented through mechanisms like google searches and wiki pages, and "dummies" books, that seems to be some kind of catalyst for the developers, triggering a frantic need to utterly rewrite something that was perfectly OK, just to make sure it retains its traditional level of obfuscation :-). Even worse, the lack of documentation forms a kind of positive feedback loop, increasing the feeling that things need to be rewritten, not because they really need it, but because it is easier to rewrite than to understand how to modify the existing code. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: root in FC 10 > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 7:32 AM > Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:10:36 +1030 Tim > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Compared to logging in graphically as root leaves > you much more > >> open to security flaws in the graphical systems > doing much more > >> than you were doing. > > > > Ah yes, here it is again - GUIS are horribly flawed > and ridden > > through with security bugs. > > The point is that you should always run with the least > amount of > privileges to perform a task¹. Running a desktop session > as the root > user means that you are running far more code than you > would if you > ran as a normal user and only used root to execute the > programs that > need root privileges -- e.g. the system-config-* tools and > such. > > There is also effort being put into separating the GUI part > of various > system tools from the parts that require root privilege. > For example, > this allows a normal user to run a date/time configuration > tool and > only uses root privilege to actually change the system > time. > > It does not mean that the GUI is entirely untrustworthy or > unsuitable > for use. It just means that best practice is to run as > little code > with superuser privilege as is needed. > > > If that is really the case, then no one should be > logging into any > > GUI at all for any reason since you'll be exposing > your own data to > > all those security kooties waiting to leap out of the > GUIs on them. > > A little hyperbole with your coffee? ;) > > ¹ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_privilege > > -- > ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: > www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp > ~~ > The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, > it's more > like a death march. > -- Demotivators (www.despair.com) > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines You don't see it do you! What you are proposing would take a massive intricate system to protect people from themselves. SELINUX is already a super mess duplicating controls already in place and adding to the CPU burden. Extending your logic to society, we'd need a massive intricate system to protect people from themselves. Put an automatic temperature limit on hot water to protect people from scalding. Most controls in place in society are to prevent lawsuits. Move to NYC and do your income tax! Ends up nobody understands the calculations involved. Those who think they do even argue among themselves. It is the underlying attitude that caused people to move here from Europe. Arogant people trying to run the lives of others. How about a 65 mph limit on auto speeds. There are 10 more! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum errors on rpmfusion in F10: Please help (SOLVED!)
This message, from Max Kanat-Alexander in a parallel thread, is the fix to my and many other people's similar problem: > On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:14:24 -0500 Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Errno 4] IOError: > > Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for > > repository: rpmfusion-free-updates. Please verify its path and try > > again > > If you frequently get this but not always, you are experiencing > this: > > http://www.fedorafaq.org/f10/#dns-slow > > -Max This problem turns out to be a "slow response" DNS problem. The FAQ contains a clear solution which worked immediately for me. The FAQ entry also contains a pointer to _this bug_: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459756 which has more than 70 comments, many of which are complaining about why this bug has so far not been fixed. For many, this bug is rendering F10 useless. Indeed Chris Terpak (comment 71 in the bug report) says it very well: I pulled my hair out trying to find this. IMHO, this bug is not a 'medium' priority - it makes F10 useless. I disagree that users should have to go and try and find downstream software that uses glibc when it is glibc that changed (and I read every entry in this thread). F6,7,8,9 were all fine on the exact same hardware. This should be critical priority not medium. Forcing a user to install BIND or DNSMASQ as a work around is utter nonsense. I couldn't agree more. Dean -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:10:36 +1030 Tim > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Compared to logging in graphically as root leaves you much more >> open to security flaws in the graphical systems doing much more >> than you were doing. > > Ah yes, here it is again - GUIS are horribly flawed and ridden > through with security bugs. The point is that you should always run with the least amount of privileges to perform a task¹. Running a desktop session as the root user means that you are running far more code than you would if you ran as a normal user and only used root to execute the programs that need root privileges -- e.g. the system-config-* tools and such. There is also effort being put into separating the GUI part of various system tools from the parts that require root privilege. For example, this allows a normal user to run a date/time configuration tool and only uses root privilege to actually change the system time. It does not mean that the GUI is entirely untrustworthy or unsuitable for use. It just means that best practice is to run as little code with superuser privilege as is needed. > If that is really the case, then no one should be logging into any > GUI at all for any reason since you'll be exposing your own data to > all those security kooties waiting to leap out of the GUIs on them. A little hyperbole with your coffee? ;) ¹ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_privilege -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march. -- Demotivators (www.despair.com) pgpBqdRjG18Cx.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Convert working pptpconfig setup to automated script
Does anyone know how I would go about converting a working pptpconfig setup to start as a service sans GUI? doing `pptpconfig start` required a GUI. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Tom Horsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Tom Horsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: root in FC 10 > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 6:42 AM > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:10:36 +1030 > Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Compared to logging in graphically as root leaves you > > much more open to security flaws in the graphical > systems doing much > > more than you were doing. > > Ah yes, here it is again - GUIS are horribly flawed and > ridden through with security bugs. > > If that is really the case, then no one should be logging > into > any GUI at all for any reason since you'll be exposing > your > own data to all those security kooties waiting to leap out > of the GUIs on them. > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines your reasoning is OK but you cannot impose your system of beliefs on others and their OSs. If I want to do something not smart, then it is MY problem. I've been logging into Linux root for 11.5 years and never messed anything up yet! Maybe you need to advise the users of puppy Linux. There 1 pieces of advice one can give but should not be imposed. Marriage should be prohibited until months of counselling are completed -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:56:13 +0530 > "Rahul Tidke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc20081130_276152.htm >> > > "Open-source code is generally great code, not requiring much support." > > What universe does Stuart Cohen live in? > So, what is your view? Generally crappy code in need of constant support? -- There is never time to do it right, but always time to do it over. [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "internet calendar"
Agile Aspect wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: François Patte wrote: Bonjour, I am looking for a calendar that could be synchronized through the Internet. As (almost) everybody I have several machines --- office, home, office abroad, internet café...), and only one "central server" at my university. I am wondering if there exists a calendar system which could be on my central server and which I could use anywhere; something like my mail: I use imap, everything is on the server and whenever I change something in my mailboxes, changes are available everywhere. A good think will be something like a plugin in the mail reader (I use thunderbird). I use the lightning plugin in Thunderbird, and I can sync it with both a local Calendar and an Internet Calendar (Provider for Google Calendar). Which only works under a 32 bit Thunderbird? Nope, I'm running on an x86_64 laptop. There *are* beta plugins available, you just have to look for them. I did, and I found them. (I just don't remember *where* I found them off the top of my head.) -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10: Unrequested automatic installation ::rant
> I'm suprised this packagekit-whatever default behaviour went into > production w/o anyone raising a red light. Even if it's a bug. > truly surprising. Ah, but it is highly unsafe for users to login as root because that might cause you to open up your system to unwanted modifications. Much better to have random root daemons running around behind your back modifying your system instead :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum errors on rpmfusion in F10: Please help
Deepak Shrestha wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Dean S. Messing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can't imagine this being a network problem on my machine, router, or > > provider as I can get to the darn repomd.xml file (and look inside > > it!) via Firefox. > > > > Other suggestions? > > > > Dean > > > > I am not expert in this but similar to my problem I suspect it must be > the network settings problem. This is what exactly happened when I > tried to update after fresh fedora 10 and later found out that my > subnetmask is reset to 192.168.1.1. (especially if you used > system-config-network tools). > > Anyway check your /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0 (or > other cards) to see something is wrong there. > > Probably it has nothing to do with yum or repos Here is that file: # Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller DEVICE=eth0 HWADDR=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX <-- hidden by me ONBOOT=no IPV6INIT=no IPV6_AUTOCONF=no I added the last two lines yesterday as part of the disabling of ipv6 which seems to be causing so many others network problems. Except for the last two lines, this is what the system defaulted to after intallation of F10. I actually don't recall doing anything about networking during the installation. I think NetworkManager is "taking care of things" for me. This is my first experience with NM. (I usually hand edit ifcfg-eth0 on mh other systems.) Right after installation I was able to yum update w/o a problem. But Firefox would not resolve names. After googling, I learned that I needed to disable ipv6. Having done that, Firefox started working, and I didn't seem to have any other network problems. Then I tried to install the rpmfusion stuff and the current problem began. Dean -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:56:13 +0530 "Rahul Tidke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc20081130_276152.htm "Open-source code is generally great code, not requiring much support." What universe does Stuart Cohen live in? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:10:36 +1030 Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Compared to logging in graphically as root leaves you > much more open to security flaws in the graphical systems doing much > more than you were doing. Ah yes, here it is again - GUIS are horribly flawed and ridden through with security bugs. If that is really the case, then no one should be logging into any GUI at all for any reason since you'll be exposing your own data to all those security kooties waiting to leap out of the GUIs on them. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum errors on rpmfusion in F10: Please help
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 05.12.2008 07:39, Dean S. Messing wrote:
> > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> >> On 05.12.2008 06:30, Kam Leo wrote:
> >
> >>> Try using the main rpmfusion server. Edit the rpmfusion repo files in
> >>> /etc/yum.repos.d directory, enable the baserul (i.e. remove the "#"
> >>> character), and disable the mirrorlist (i.e place a "#" at beginning
> >>> of line).
> >> See also:
> >> http://rpmfusion.org/FAQ
> >>
> >[...] I did that already (by hand) before I wrote
> >to the list; didn't help.
> [...] you should post the error message that you get now after doing that
> change (which you afaics didn't do yet; but maybe I missed it) --
> without that we can only guess around what might be wrong.
The error message was so similar (just the path name changed) that I
didn't think it necessary. Again, for those who haven't read the full
thread, ipv6 is entirely shut off on this system so its not that.
Here is more complete data on my problem:
Verifying I have the right rpmfusion packages:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -qa | fgrep rpmf
rpmfusion-nonfree-release-8-6.noarch
rpmfusion-free-release-8-6.noarch
Demonstration of problem when "mirrorlist" line is upcommented and
"baseurl" line is commented in /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion-free.repo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Could not retrieve mirrorlist
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-10&arch=i386 error was
[Errno 4] IOError:
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
rpmfusion-free. Please verify its path and try again
If I now comment the "mirrorlist" line and uncomment the "baseurl" line
in /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion-free.repo I get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/10/Everything/i386/os/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno 4] IOError:
Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
rpmfusion-free. Please verify its path and try again
I notice the "Trying other mirror." That seems strange as its now operating
on the baseurl, not the mirrorlist. Here's the first lines of
/etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion-free.repo:
[rpmfusion-free]
name=RPM Fusion for Fedora $releasever - Free
baseurl=http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/
#mirrorlist=http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora
Nota bene: I've disabled all the other rpmfusion repos ("enable=0")
except rpmfusion-free so as to keep things simple.
One more piece of data which I just discovered.
If I do a "yum clean all" first I get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum clean all
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Cleaning up Everything
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/10/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError:
Trying other mirror.
livna
livna/pr
http://fedora.mirrors.tds.net/pub/fedora/releases/10/Everything/i386/os/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno 4] IOError:
Trying other mirror.
fedora
fedora/p
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/10/Everything/i386/os/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno 4] IOError:
Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
rpmfusion-free. Please verify its path and try again
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#
I notice similar [Errno 4] messages from the livna and fedora repos, but they
somehow recover!
Why not the rpmfusion repo?
For completeness I now will uncomment "mirrorlist" and comment "baseurl" in
/etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion-free.repo and run the same commands:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum clean all
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Cleaning up Everything
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/10/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError:
Trying other mirror.
livna
livna/pr
fedora
fedora/p
Could not retrieve mirrorlist
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-10&arch=i386 error was
[Errno 4] IOError:
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
rpmfusion-free. Please verify its path and try again
Hmm. This time livna failed, retried and succeeded, fedora had no
problem at all, and rpmfusion failed and did not recover.
I'm completely stumped.
Dean
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Re: Fedora 9 & Motorola W5
Try a search on modmymoto.com. On 12/1/08, yordy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any body know an application or had connected a Motorola W5 cell phone for > Fedora 9/10. I plug my usb cable but Fedora don't recognize my phone. > > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- Sent from my mobile device Ken echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq |dc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 freezes after a while
I tried your advice on my system, but radeonhd driver doesn't seem to support my card (X800PRO) I guess I'll just reach for fglrx :| bruce wrote: > hi globe... > > you might want to try and download/install the radeonhd driver, and replace > the radeon in the conf file. > > i have f9, and had issues with f9 freezing on my toshiba laptop. downloading > the radeonhd driver, and replacing the raden driver in the xorg file seems > to have solved the issue. > > you can download the "radeonhd" driver using yum (not sure of the actual > filename" but check google..) > > in the xorg.conf file, > > replace > Driver "radeon" > with > Driver "radeonhd" > > see what happens!! > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Globe Trotter > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 10:00 AM > To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. > Subject: RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/4/08, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Community assistance, encouragement, and advice >> > for using Fedora.'" > >> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 10:51 PM >> hey globe.. >> >> what's the driver that you're using in the >> xorg.conf? >> > > > Here is the xorg.conf: > # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "single head configuration" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "radeon" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > > > Many thanks, > T > > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "internet calendar"
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: François Patte wrote: Bonjour, I am looking for a calendar that could be synchronized through the Internet. As (almost) everybody I have several machines --- office, home, office abroad, internet café...), and only one "central server" at my university. I am wondering if there exists a calendar system which could be on my central server and which I could use anywhere; something like my mail: I use imap, everything is on the server and whenever I change something in my mailboxes, changes are available everywhere. A good think will be something like a plugin in the mail reader (I use thunderbird). I use the lightning plugin in Thunderbird, and I can sync it with both a local Calendar and an Internet Calendar (Provider for Google Calendar). Which only works under a 32 bit Thunderbird? -- Article. VI. Clause 3 of the constitution of the United States states: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: esc and rhgb
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 12:02 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hiding the output on a new install is really counter-intuitive - for > me. I have never quite understood this obsession with a windows-like > boot process. Even more so on a distro like Fedora, where new things get tried all the time, and bug reports need to be made things that don't work. But if the warnings and error messages aren't seen, they don't get seen to. A case in point, I hate how the shutdown messages are hidden on Fedora 9. I've got to hit keys to see them. I've already undone the crap that hides the start-up messages, so I don't have to do anything to see them, but haven't seen a way to do the same with the shutdown messages. And what do I see in the shutdown messages? A message about failing to shut down encryption, yet the computer is apparently shutting down fine. I don't know if that error is important, or if it really is an error. But it did nothing to let me see the error, I had to go looking for it. Fedora's hardly a mainstream distro, one that you could stick on someone's desk, someone who's not really computer literate, and expect it to just work without any sort of TLC. So I really do not see the point in trying to pretty it up, in this area, as if it were. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 21:02 -0800, Fred Silsbee wrote: > I've been logging into root for 11.5 tears on Linux alone without > problems And others have been logging in as root for umpteen years and causing themselves considerable problems because of this. At least one of them is on this list, and probably still doing it. > It is dumb to make it impossible for everybody. It's not impossible, it's *sensibly* made not to do that by default, but it is reconfigurable for those who want to play russian roulette. I tend to feel that those who argue strongly for dumb default options (like making it way too easy for idiots to be root, arguing against SELinux, arguing against firewalls, etc.), have ulterior motives. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??
Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 09:56 +0530, Rahul Tidke wrote: > >> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc20081130_276152.htm >> >> Any comments from Fedora community?? >> > > That computer journalism is generally incompetent, way off the ball, way > out of date, and completely beat up. As a quick example, that article > is about open source *business* model, not about open source. Yet the > title is completely bogus, in a crap attempt to stir the pot. > I feel that is a bit harsh. First of all the article does appear in "Business Week" so I feel it should be apparent that the focus is on "business" and not the technology or any moral precepts. While the one line title should have been "Open Source: The Business Model Is Broken", maybe we can chalk that up to an editor who felt constrained to fit it into a single line on the web page? And even if we can't accept that, maybe the smaller lines in the title will clue us in on what the article is all about...oh right, I am reading "Business Week". It is not as if the purpose of the article is hidden. :-) Frankly, I am ill prepared to answer to what I think about the questions/issues raised in the article since I am not an investor in companies that have been trying to make (me) money utilizing this business model. I am also not a reader or follower of those companies balance sheets. Not to mention that I'd be hard pressed to serve up a viable business plan on my own. (Note: I am being kind to myself.) Yet, I wonder how may of these companies are flourishing? And, is it really out of line to conclude "Unless open-source providers find new ways to add value for their customers, especially in this economic environment, the growth of their companies is at serious risk." Seems to me it is almost like asking "If the Big-3 automakers in the US don't wise up and provide the cars the world needs/wants shouldn't they prepare to become extinct?". -- I wouldn't be so paranoid if you weren't all out to get me!! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 11:56 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Again, I am unable to appreciate a great deal of difference between > logging in as root and using su providing that you are only logging in > as root to do system configuration and maintenance. The significant difference between them is that when you su from a normal user, system disasters tend to be the fault of that user doing something stupid. Compared to logging in graphically as root leaves you much more open to security flaws in the graphical systems doing much more than you were doing. Particularly as all of them now have root power, rather than just the ones you'd fired off through the root terminal you'd su'd in. Newbies tend to paint themselves into a corner when they log in (graphically) as root, as they create files and settings that only root can use. If they, later, try logging in as themselves, they find that their files are badly accessible, and anything they configured was only configured in the root account, and they have to go through that all again in their own account, or they just keep on logging in as the root user because it's too difficult for them. If they hadn't done that, they wouldn't have kept on banging their head against the wall. Unlike Windows, it really is NOT necessary to be root to get ordinary things done, nor is it necessary for system administration. Using su - or sudo in the terminal does completely make you the root user to administer things. GUI configuration tools ask you to authenticate as root and then actually do run properly. And, in general, the software is *properly* written to be used by the right users. Anything that wrongly needs you to be root, instead of an ordinary user, is faulty, and does get seen to. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
Fred Silsbee wrote: > disabling root access is what the root password is for Perhaps there's a misunderstanding here. Root access has not been disabled. What is disabled by default is logging in via GDM as root. You can still use "su -c 'command'" just fine. That is a far better method than logging in as root and running a full desktop session. > I've been logging into root for 11.5 tears on Linux alone without > problems Yes, it is a problem. The principle of running with the least privilege needed is a good one. It is one of the reasons that a *nix system has far less security problems than a Windows system. You are free to toss that advantage out the window if you like, but it's not in any way a good habit to get into. > It is dumb to make it impossible for everybody. I strongly disagree with you. First, it is not impossible. It is simply disabled by default. I believe it is a sensible default. You should not need to login to a full desktop session as root. The graphical admin tools in Fedora should all be able to prompt you for the root password as needed when run from a normal user account. Command line applications can be run as root using su or sudo, as they have been for years. Further, those who really think they need to run as root all the time should be perfectly able to change the default. If they are not capable of that, they should question whether running with superuser privileges is a good idea. > I understand this disablement can be removed by doing something in > pam.d or whatever it is. Sure, you turn the safety off on the gun and aim it at your foot if you like. But it is not a recommended or supported action. ;) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I figure that if God actually does exist, He's big enough to understand an honest difference of opinion. -- Isaac Asimov pgp4tEovKNAmE.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio:
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 15:31 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote: > I am in need of a way to process an analog stereo input device > to digital. > > I basically have old cassettes and reel-to-reels that I would > like to convert to digital. I've found Audacity to be one of the better choices, as you have fairly real time VU meters. That allows you to capture at the best signal level, in the first place (not too quiet that you lots of noise, and not too loud that you have distortion). Though, working in audio/video production, and having other gear to hand, I opted for running the player through a mixer with really good metering, after making some test recordings to work out what were the right levels between equipment. Another issue is hum and noise. Computers are none-too-quiet, and earth loops between your computer and audio equipment are going to cause problems. If your audio equipment is un-earthed, that won't be an issue. If you get hum loops, then some decent audio transformers between them will be the easiest solution. Resist the urge to attempt to fix hum and noise problems digitally, it's much better to capture a good signal in the first place. There are some problems that you just can't get rid of, or the attempt makes yet another mess out of the audio signal. I found the best way of dealing with audio sources with different sections was to caption the source without any pauses in your capture, then carve it into the appropriate sections on the computer. Audacity's fade-in & fade-out filters make it easy to make the hiss neatly disappear between tracks, so it doesn't go "click" between tracks on CD recorders and/or players that insist on badly muting between tracks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio:
Patrick O'Callaghan: >> Turntables are also available. Ironically, a lot of these actually >> come with Audacity even though they're marketed for Windows. Mikkel L. Ellertson: > For example: > http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=TTUSB-PB-R&cpc=SCH I'd be very surprised if any of those plastic turntables were anything but utter crap. But then they're aimed at the MP3/iPod users, where audio quality is the least thing on their mind... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 09:56 +0530, Rahul Tidke wrote: > http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc20081130_276152.htm > > Any comments from Fedora community?? That computer journalism is generally incompetent, way off the ball, way out of date, and completely beat up. As a quick example, that article is about open source *business* model, not about open source. Yet the title is completely bogus, in a crap attempt to stir the pot. The only point of that article is to increase their readership, not to do anything else beneficial. It's best ignored, like the painful bratty child in class who wants everyone to "look at me." -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: root in FC 10 > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 12:04 AM > Gene Heskett wrote: > >>Disabling root login is a common security practice. > Sounds like it's > >>been disabled by default in F10. That's got to > be a good thing. > > > > Apparently so, but then the install doesn't add > the one user it asks > > you to define to the sudoers file, and to fix that > requires a reboot > > to single mode. > > No it doesn't. You run "su -c visudo" and > add the user you want. > > -- > ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: > www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp > ~~ > The best advice I can give is to ignore advice. Life is too > short to > be distracted by the opinions of others. > -- Russell Edson > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines disabling root access is what the root password is for I've been logging into root for 11.5 tears on Linux alone without problems It is dumb to make it impossible for everybody. I understand this disablement can be removed by doing something in pam.d or whatever it is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
(Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc20081130_276152.htm Any comments from Fedora community?? Regards, Rahul. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 Evo filtering unbearably slow
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 19:05 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:52:35 -0500 > Matthew Saltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyone else seeing this behavior? Any suggestions for > > fixes/workarounds? > > If you are really totally wired to evolution and exchange > connector, my only advice is to setup a Windows virtual machine > where you can run outlook just long enough to setup the > exchange server-side filtering rules, then turn off filtering > in evolution since the sxchange server will have done it > for you. Server-side filtering would be great. I will look into that. > (Too bad no one has ever made a linux interface > to the filter rules, at least I don't know of one). > > Sure you can't use imap to talk to exchange? My memory of my experience with IMAP was even worse. And I need the calendaring and contact lists. Thanks for the suggestion. > > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Boardcom bcm2046 bluetooth problem
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Demeter Tibor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All ! > > I have a Dell Studio 1535 notebook and a built-in Broadcom bcm2046 > bluetooth chipset. I installed to this machine a F10, but the bluetooth > device is cannot work. I see whit lsusb, but the kernel is not detect > for this a suitable driver. > I read a solution,this device is supported the kernel, but i need > reloading the hci_usb module with a "reset=1" parameter, but this driver > is not a module in the official f10 kernel. This driver is linked > statical to the main kernel image. > Can i modify this parameter whitout rebuilding the kernel? > I'm not sure how that will be done for a driver that is built-in to the kernel. However, this issue is known and fixed upstream i think. http://marc.info/?l=linux-bluetooth&m=122804122705386&w=2 Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 Evo filtering unbearably slow
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Matthew Saltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In F10, Evolution's filtering of incoming mail takes forever--much > longer (according to my impression) than in F8. In addition, I > frequently see errors related to checking for junk mail along the lines > of: Pipe to spamassassin failed. The same thing happens if I use > bogofilter in place of spamassassin. > > Anyone else seeing this behavior? Any suggestions for > fixes/workarounds? > > (I use the Exchange connector, so please don't suggest another mail > client.) I'm not seeing this, but I don't use Exchange. (though I do see problems with virtual folders, e.g. the unread counts are often wrong). Evo 2.24 has new indexing code which uses SQLite, and some people seem to be having trouble with it. You might want to file a bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10: Unrequested automatic installation ::rant
Le Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:04:10 +, dexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > 2008/12/5 lanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:56:00 -0500, > > Robert Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > > >> This morning after booting and logging in, a little bubble opened > >> in the lower right hand corner that said some updates were > >> complete. I had not requested any updates. Previous updates had > >> all been done by me typing "yum update" in a gnome-terminal. > > > > OK. Microsoft gave $500 millions to Novell for SuSE. How much did > > they gave to Red Hat, do I ask cynically ? > > > > Or worse, is this the result of Windows programmers moving to work > > on Linux bringing along their great ideas ? > > > > If it goes on like that in 3 years from now, major Linux distros > > will have too many similarities with Windows, and will share the > > Windows problems of today. All that's left is to remove that darn > > root account or better (!), have users always with root privileges. > > > > But since Linux is what it is, there'll be hope in 'rebel', > > rock-solid alternative distros that do not push by default > > unwanted system behaviours to users and stick to proven basics. > > And that doesn't exclude compiz. > > > > I'm suprised this packagekit-whatever default behaviour went into > > production w/o anyone raising a red light. Even if it's a bug. > > truly surprising. > > > > And how does it update the system exactly w/o root account ? Or > > does this GUI thing runs always as root with access to both the > > system and the internet w/o users knowing it ? > > > > My rant. > > > > Cheers. > > These people need to here this: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00431.html Then, to the question that perhaps a dialog box would improve things, a Fedora guy replied: "What would you want the dialog box to say?" I have a few things in mind, but to write these I would have to leave the range of alphanumeirc keys. Cheers. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10 Error
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There is a problem when install sw to fc10. Do you have any ideas? Below
> is the error message:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY*
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-10-primary: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-i386: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ia64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-primary: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-10-primary: import
> failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-i386: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ia64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ppc: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ppc64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-primary: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-x86_64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-freshrpms: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PPTP: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora: import
> failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora: import
> failed.
Out of curiosity, why are you trying to import all of these keys (many
of which are redundant because they are symbolic links)?
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Danfer
> -bash: /msg: 没有那个文件或目录
Be careful what you copy and paste to a public list. ;)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -qa | grep key
> gpg-pubkey-30c9ecf8-3f9da3f7
> gpg-pubkey-e42d547b-3960bdf1
> gnome-keyring-2.24.1-1.fc10.i386
> gpg-pubkey-49c8885a-4878ddfb
> keyutils-libs-1.2-3.fc9.i386
> gpg-pubkey-4f2a6fd2-3f9d9d3b
> gpg-pubkey-66534c2b-3e60b428
> xkeyboard-config-1.4-4.fc10.noarch
> xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.3.0-3.fc9.i386
> system-config-keyboard-1.2.15-4.fc10.noarch
> gpg-pubkey-f613cbe8-483c6049
> gnome-keyring-sharp-1.0.0-0.2.87622svn.fc10.i386
> gpg-pubkey-862acc42-42243bfc
> gnome-keyring-pam-2.24.1-1.fc10.i386
> coolkey-1.1.0-7.fc10.i386
> gpg-pubkey-4ebfc273-48b5dbf3
> gpg-pubkey-b1981b68-4878de85
> gpg-pubkey-a109b1ec-3f6e28d5
> keyutils-libs-devel-1.2-3.fc9.i386
> coolkey-devel-1.1.0-7.fc10.i386
> gpg-pubkey-0b86274e-48b5dd6f
> gpg-pubkey-f6777c67-45e5b1b9
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms
> error: RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms: import read failed(-1).
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#
To see the details for the gpg keys you have imported to the rpm
database, this might be more useful:
rpm -qa --qf '%{N}-%{V}-%{R}\t%{summary}\n' gpg-pubkey
It appears that you already have the Fedora 10 key imported¹. Can you
install any other packages, or do you get an error there as well? If
so, you might have some problem with your rpm database. Right now,
it's hard for me to guess what might be wrong.
¹ This would be gpg-pubkey-4ebfc273-48b5dbf3, in the rpm -qa output
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Re: F10: Unrequested automatic installation ::rant
2008/12/5 lanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:56:00 -0500, > Robert Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > >> This morning after booting and logging in, a little bubble opened in >> the lower right hand corner that said some updates were complete. I >> had not requested any updates. Previous updates had all been done by >> me typing "yum update" in a gnome-terminal. > > OK. Microsoft gave $500 millions to Novell for SuSE. How much did > they gave to Red Hat, do I ask cynically ? > > Or worse, is this the result of Windows programmers moving to work on > Linux bringing along their great ideas ? > > If it goes on like that in 3 years from now, major Linux distros will > have too many similarities with Windows, and will share the Windows > problems of today. All that's left is to remove that darn root account > or better (!), have users always with root privileges. > > But since Linux is what it is, there'll be hope in 'rebel', rock-solid > alternative distros that do not push by default unwanted system > behaviours to users and stick to proven basics. And that doesn't > exclude compiz. > > I'm suprised this packagekit-whatever default behaviour went into > production w/o anyone raising a red light. Even if it's a bug. truly > surprising. > > And how does it update the system exactly w/o root account ? Or does > this GUI thing runs always as root with access to both the system and > the internet w/o users knowing it ? > > My rant. > > Cheers. These people need to here this: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00431.html ...dex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
FC10 Error
Hi My Friends, There is a problem when install sw to fc10. Do you have any ideas? Below is the error message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY* error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-10-primary: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-i386: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ia64: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc64: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-primary: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-10-primary: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-i386: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ia64: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ppc: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ppc64: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-primary: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-x86_64: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-freshrpms: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PPTP: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora: import failed. error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora: import failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm --import http://rpm.livna.org/RPM-LIVNA-GPG-KEY error: http://rpm.livna.org/RPM-LIVNA-GPG-KEY: import failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm --import http://freshrpms.net/RPM-GPG-KEY-freshrpms error: http://freshrpms.net/RPM-GPG-KEY-freshrpms: import failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Danfer ykpzrligncer -bash: /msg: 没有那个文件或目录 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -qa | grep key gpg-pubkey-30c9ecf8-3f9da3f7 gpg-pubkey-e42d547b-3960bdf1 gnome-keyring-2.24.1-1.fc10.i386 gpg-pubkey-49c8885a-4878ddfb keyutils-libs-1.2-3.fc9.i386 gpg-pubkey-4f2a6fd2-3f9d9d3b gpg-pubkey-66534c2b-3e60b428 xkeyboard-config-1.4-4.fc10.noarch xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.3.0-3.fc9.i386 system-config-keyboard-1.2.15-4.fc10.noarch gpg-pubkey-f613cbe8-483c6049 gnome-keyring-sharp-1.0.0-0.2.87622svn.fc10.i386 gpg-pubkey-862acc42-42243bfc gnome-keyring-pam-2.24.1-1.fc10.i386 coolkey-1.1.0-7.fc10.i386 gpg-pubkey-4ebfc273-48b5dbf3 gpg-pubkey-b1981b68-4878de85 gpg-pubkey-a109b1ec-3f6e28d5 keyutils-libs-devel-1.2-3.fc9.i386 coolkey-devel-1.1.0-7.fc10.i386 gpg-pubkey-0b86274e-48b5dd6f gpg-pubkey-f6777c67-45e5b1b9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms error: RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms: import read failed(-1). [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# Many thanks -- Please feel free to call me Best Regards He Junfeng Mobile: 13911069420 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB printer Epson TX101 + generic USB driver on F10?
Steve Repo wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steve Repo wrote: Hello all, I purchased a multifunction Epson TX101 Inkjet printer. I didn't do my research for linux support and this is a fairly new printer. I' plugged it into my F10 box. The printer is recognized but the driver isn't there (selectred drive is for Epson scan 2500 or something like that,). I'm unable to print. xsane refuses to recognise the scanner as well. So, is there a generic USB printer/scanner driver I could use or is there something else I can do to get this working? There was a package I pulled from the Epson site, or a link thereon, and as I recall it had kernel modules or cups modules, or similar not very portable stuff. However, it dropped in and worked on an FC6 machine, and nothing newer. You might poke around and see if there is something newer, and also try iscan, I never got sane working, or missed it, iscan does what I need. If all else fails, and you have the hardware, you might do a minimal FC6 install with the package in a KVM machine, and connect the USB to that. Slightly complex, but as a device controller it really beats using Windows! ;-) Thanks for the response! I did look harder since you mentioned that Epson does support printers on Linux separately. I found their site here, http://avasys.jp/hp/page01300/hpg01243.htm Although the sites lists upto "Fedora Core 6" as supported during the distribution selection, you get a Fedora 9 RPM! I was pleasantly surprised. They really meant it when I was trying to get my CX7400 working, I will have to go look again and test on my system, but that would let me get off FC6 (not that I'm having any issues here). I have an Epson printer for printable DVD which I got as a bonus when I bought a Christmas present, maybe that will be supported as well! The drivers installed and works. I'm glad I got you in the right direction, and you have gotten me looking for a current version of the driver, which would make me very happy. I wish all these printer companies worked with open source CUPS and submitted their drivers for inclusion instead of developing and carving separate drivers with installers. I have a samsung laser printer scx4300 and even they have a linux driver with an installer. Steve -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
Gene Heskett wrote: >>Disabling root login is a common security practice. Sounds like it's >>been disabled by default in F10. That's got to be a good thing. > > Apparently so, but then the install doesn't add the one user it asks > you to define to the sudoers file, and to fix that requires a reboot > to single mode. No it doesn't. You run "su -c visudo" and add the user you want. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The best advice I can give is to ignore advice. Life is too short to be distracted by the opinions of others. -- Russell Edson pgp9lw2ZrQNE5.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 Evo filtering unbearably slow
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:52:35 -0500 Matthew Saltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone else seeing this behavior? Any suggestions for > fixes/workarounds? If you are really totally wired to evolution and exchange connector, my only advice is to setup a Windows virtual machine where you can run outlook just long enough to setup the exchange server-side filtering rules, then turn off filtering in evolution since the sxchange server will have done it for you. (Too bad no one has ever made a linux interface to the filter rules, at least I don't know of one). Sure you can't use imap to talk to exchange? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Which alsa packages are default in Fedora 10
Nigel Henry wrote: On Friday 05 December 2008 21:46, stan wrote: Nigel Henry wrote: I'm trying to help someone with sound problems on Fedora 10. I don't have F10 installed, and am not sure which alsa packages are installed on a fresh install of F10. I know the alsa-driver is 1.0.17, but he is showing alsa-lib as 1.0.18rc3, and alsa-utils as 1.0.18. This seems a bit strange, as the alsa driver is an earlier version than those for alsa-lib, and alsa-utils. Could someone have a look in Yumex, and see which alsa-lib, and alsa-utils versions are installed on their machine. Please say whether this is after or before doing a post install yum update, and if the rpmfusion repo's are enabled, or not. Many thanks for replies. Nigel. I don't know about default, but I have the following alsa packages on a fully updated Fedora 10 x86_64 system after customizing. alsa-lib.i3861.0.18-6.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-lib.x86_64 1.0.18-6.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-lib-devel.x86_641.0.18-6.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-oss.x86_64 1.0.17-1.fc10 installed alsa-oss-devel.x86_641.0.17-1.fc10 installed alsa-oss-libs.x86_64 1.0.17-1.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-jack.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-oss.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-samplerate.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-upmix.x86_641.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-vdownmix.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-tools.x86_641.0.17-1.fc10 installed alsa-utils.x86_641.0.18-6.fc10 installed alsamixergui.x86_64 0.9.0-0.4.rc1.fc9.2 installed balsa.x86_64 2.3.26-2.fc10 installed bluez-alsa.x86_644.17-2.fc10 installed callweaver-alsa.x86_64 1.2.0.1-1.2.fc10 installed python-alsaaudio.x86_64 0.3-1.fc9 installed I'm not sure if the alsa-lib.i386 is necessary or caused by some fumbling around I've done. Thanks Stan. That sort of looks like there should be no problem in having an earlier version of the alsa driver than the versions of alsa-lib, and alsa-utils. I'm trying to help someone with sound problems with Fedora 10. All sound modules are loaded, but no soundcard detected. This is on an OQO pocket pc machine. He has another 3 of these machines, which are using Centos 5.2, and sound is working on these, but no sounds from the one with Fedora 10 installed. www.oqo.com Centos 5.2 is using alsa driver version 1.0.14rc3, and sounds are fine, yet Fedora 10 using alsa driver 1.0.17, has all snd modules loaded, but no soundcard detected. The thread starts yesterday, with the subject line. F10-No sound on my OQO Any suggestions to resolving Robert's problem Links to the output after running the alsa-info.sh script below. The link below is the output from running alsa-info.sh on F10 http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a984f3d7859f7c239c6ecf2cbf5614a1fbdd6c And the link below is the output for running alsa-info.sh on his Centos installs. http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5d592ffd6dd37b033a165c4c4701651b84d76155 Nigel. The centos alsa identified the hda intel as a Codec: SigmaTel STAC9200 He needs to pass the parameter model=STAC9200 to alsa to give it a hint. Obviously, the version of alsa on Fedora 10 isn't able to figure it out by itself. Pass it either in modprobe.conf or as a parameter to a modprobe command. You can find these models in the alsa-driver source package in alsa-kernel/Documentation/ALSA-Configuration.txt You know, I'll kick myself if I ever buy a sound device with an hda-intel chipset. 90% of the problems with sound on linux must be due to that chipset. I wonder why Intel didn't at least give a standard design template to their customers so they would all have a chance of being standardized. Insane! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 Evo filtering unbearably slow
In F10, Evolution's filtering of incoming mail takes forever--much longer (according to my impression) than in F8. In addition, I frequently see errors related to checking for junk mail along the lines of: Pipe to spamassassin failed. The same thing happens if I use bogofilter in place of spamassassin. Anyone else seeing this behavior? Any suggestions for fixes/workarounds? (I use the Exchange connector, so please don't suggest another mail client.) -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10: Unrequested automatic installation ::rant
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:56:00 -0500, Robert Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > This morning after booting and logging in, a little bubble opened in > the lower right hand corner that said some updates were complete. I > had not requested any updates. Previous updates had all been done by > me typing "yum update" in a gnome-terminal. OK. Microsoft gave $500 millions to Novell for SuSE. How much did they gave to Red Hat, do I ask cynically ? Or worse, is this the result of Windows programmers moving to work on Linux bringing along their great ideas ? If it goes on like that in 3 years from now, major Linux distros will have too many similarities with Windows, and will share the Windows problems of today. All that's left is to remove that darn root account or better (!), have users always with root privileges. But since Linux is what it is, there'll be hope in 'rebel', rock-solid alternative distros that do not push by default unwanted system behaviours to users and stick to proven basics. And that doesn't exclude compiz. I'm suprised this packagekit-whatever default behaviour went into production w/o anyone raising a red light. Even if it's a bug. truly surprising. And how does it update the system exactly w/o root account ? Or does this GUI thing runs always as root with access to both the system and the internet w/o users knowing it ? My rant. Cheers. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I've done this with a cassette deck. I had a friend make me a cable > that joins both tape stereo output channels into a single soundcard > input plug (this is a standard connector but I'm > electronics-illiterate so don't ask me for details :-). I used > Audacity for the capture. It's a highly manual process needless to say > (start Audacity recording, hit tape button, wait for the whole thing > to finish at normal speed, hit tape stop, stop recording) but I did > capture several audiobooks to listen to on my iPod. > You can pick up the 2 RCA plug to mini-stereo plug or mini-stereo to mini-stereo cables in the electronic department of most chain stores. They are usually listed as being for iPods. I have a nice dec that I have used - you can have it search for the gap between songs. It helps if you want to record individual songs, instead of separating them in Audacity. I have been tempted by cassette player that Computer Geeks has that is controlled by a serial port and mounts like a CD drive. http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PLUSDECK2C&cpc=SCH > Or you can buy a ready-made USB tape player, but I'm not sure how much > pain it would mean to get it working under Linux. Turntables are also > available. Ironically, a lot of these actually come with Audacity even > though they're marketed for Windows. > For example: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=TTUSB-PB-R&cpc=SCH Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ctf-alt-F2
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Patrick Dupre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Let say, I startx a X session from tty1 (startx), then, what never I do: Ctl-Alt-Fx (x=1-10), it breaks the X session and I am back to tty1 with the following messages (is their a log file for the X session ?) I can not confirm this. if I drop to runlevel 3, login on tty1 and startx. I can switch between virtual terminals and X without causing X to crash. Are you duing startx as root or as an unprivledged user? As a "standard" user. -- --- == Patrick DUPRÉ | | Department of Chemistry| |Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | |Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ctf-alt-F2
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Patrick Dupre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let say, I startx a X session from tty1 (startx), then, what never I do: > Ctl-Alt-Fx (x=1-10), it breaks the X session and I am back to tty1 with the > following messages (is their a log file for the X session ?) I can not confirm this. if I drop to runlevel 3, login on tty1 and startx. I can switch between virtual terminals and X without causing X to crash. Are you duing startx as root or as an unprivledged user? -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "internet calendar"
François Patte wrote: Bonjour, I am looking for a calendar that could be synchronized through the Internet. As (almost) everybody I have several machines --- office, home, office abroad, internet café...), and only one "central server" at my university. I am wondering if there exists a calendar system which could be on my central server and which I could use anywhere; something like my mail: I use imap, everything is on the server and whenever I change something in my mailboxes, changes are available everywhere. A good think will be something like a plugin in the mail reader (I use thunderbird). I use the lightning plugin in Thunderbird, and I can sync it with both a local Calendar and an Internet Calendar (Provider for Google Calendar). Thanks. F. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio:
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Jeff Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am in need of a way to process an analog stereo input device >to >digital. > >I basically have old cassettes and reel-to-reels that I would >like to >convert to digital. > >I do have an old CD recorder that I have been using but it has >started >to have issues not being able to read the CDs I insert. > >I would think the better method would be some way to connect the >audio >output of the cassette/reel-to-reel device to the input of my >sound card >and do some type of capture. > >Has anyone had any success at this and how do handle 2 rca type >outputs >from the analog to the single sound card input? I've done this with a cassette deck. I had a friend make me a cable that joins both tape stereo output channels into a single soundcard input plug (this is a standard connector but I'm electronics-illiterate so don't ask me for details :-). I used Audacity for the capture. It's a highly manual process needless to say (start Audacity recording, hit tape button, wait for the whole thing to finish at normal speed, hit tape stop, stop recording) but I did capture several audiobooks to listen to on my iPod. Or you can buy a ready-made USB tape player, but I'm not sure how much pain it would mean to get it working under Linux. Turntables are also available. Ironically, a lot of these actually come with Audacity even though they're marketed for Windows. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "internet calendar"
François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I am looking for a calendar that could be synchronized through the Internet. As (almost) everybody I have several machines --- office, home, office abroad, internet café...), and only one "central server" at my university. I am wondering if there exists a calendar system which could be on my central server and which I could use anywhere; something like my mail: I use imap, everything is on the server and whenever I change something in my mailboxes, changes are available everywhere. A good think will be something like a plugin in the mail reader (I use thunderbird). Thanks. I use Thunderbird and the lightning plugin along with the Provider for Google Calendar to hit my Gmail calendar. I've used it exclusively for over a year without trouble. -- Frustra laborant quotquot se calculationibus fatigant pro inventione quadraturae circuli Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 - gnome-screensaver misbehaving?
I've been noticing Xorg has been taking a nice chunk of RAM after upgrading to Fedora 10. I decided to start up xrestop and see what's up: xrestop - Display: localhost:0 Monitoring 35 clients. XErrors: 0 Pixmaps: 95419K total, Other: 219K total, All: 95639K total res-base Wins GCs Fnts Pxms Misc Pxm mem Other Total PID Identifier 0c0 3 2705 181840960K 43K 41003K 2355 gnome-screensaver 120 190 341 196 122311853K 34K 11888K 2390 xfwm4 That's the top two items in my list. Is there any particular reason gnome-screensaver needs 40 megs of RAM? Yes, I'm running XFCE4 on this system, but I have seen the same behavior on a Gnome desktop running Fedora 10. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9 to F10 upgrade problem
PS = Pete Stieber PS>> After fixing the grub problem I rebooted to find the PS>> machine is using a Fedora 10 kernel, but the majority PS>> of the packages on the machine are for Fedora 9. PS>> When I run you update there are dependency problems PS>> due to the odd configuration. PS>> PS>> Is there anything I can do to work around this? S = stan S> You could use the manual yum upgrade procedure described S> here. S> S> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum/YumUpgradeFaq#Upgrading_Fedora_Using_Yum S> S> It sounds like you are part way through the procedure S> already. It might be as simple as just running S> yum upgrade to complete it. Thanks for the link Stan. It turns out my machine still had the fedora-release package from the Fedora 9 new key setup installed. I removed this rpm and am yum groupupdate for various groups and it appears to be working. Pete -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "internet calendar"
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:20:00 +0100 François Patte wrote: > I am looking for a calendar that could be synchronized through the Internet. http://www.google.com/calendar -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Parsing Digital Audio Files:
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Original Message > Subject: Re: Parsing Digital Audio Files: > From: stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. > > Date: 12/05/2008 02:39 PM > >> You want audacity, a sound editor. I think the latest version has tags >> built in but you could also use id3tags. >> >> Then just use a CD burner to burn the songs as audio. I think k3b can do >> that. I don't do that, so have no experience. >> > > brasero over K3b is a better choice. The latest version in Fedora 10 is > pretty much equal to K3b. Also, if you need gapless burning, k3b doesn't support it. I had to use gcdmaster. Hmm... short way to put this... 1. Use Audacity of hack up your files the way you want, use labels to mark tracks. 2. Export your project to one .wav file. 3. Export your labels. 4. Use label2cue to create a .cue file for gcdmaster (I had to edit the output because gcdmaster wanted TITLE and PERFORMER in the disc area and not just per track like label2cue creates) 5. run gcdmaster and open your .cue file and burn it 6. Enjoy gapless audio playback! Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
"internet calendar"
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I am looking for a calendar that could be synchronized through the Internet. As (almost) everybody I have several machines --- office, home, office abroad, internet café...), and only one "central server" at my university. I am wondering if there exists a calendar system which could be on my central server and which I could use anywhere; something like my mail: I use imap, everything is on the server and whenever I change something in my mailboxes, changes are available everywhere. A good think will be something like a plugin in the mail reader (I use thunderbird). Thanks. F. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 44 55 35 61 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJOakQdE6C2dhV2JURAiOeAJ9+8DpfRmVdOtepTVSHk76yUt04ZwCghZpc OC3sViGETcjDlI+liJO5QKo= =58cz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Which alsa packages are default in Fedora 10
On Friday 05 December 2008 21:46, stan wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > I'm trying to help someone with sound problems on Fedora 10. I don't have > > F10 installed, and am not sure which alsa packages are installed on a > > fresh install of F10. > > > > I know the alsa-driver is 1.0.17, but he is showing alsa-lib as > > 1.0.18rc3, and alsa-utils as 1.0.18. This seems a bit strange, as the > > alsa driver is an earlier version than those for alsa-lib, and > > alsa-utils. > > > > Could someone have a look in Yumex, and see which alsa-lib, and > > alsa-utils versions are installed on their machine. > > > > Please say whether this is after or before doing a post install yum > > update, and if the rpmfusion repo's are enabled, or not. > > > > Many thanks for replies. > > > > Nigel. > > I don't know about default, but I have the following alsa > packages on a fully updated Fedora 10 x86_64 system after > customizing. > > alsa-lib.i3861.0.18-6.rc3.fc10 > installed > alsa-lib.x86_64 1.0.18-6.rc3.fc10 > installed > alsa-lib-devel.x86_641.0.18-6.rc3.fc10 > installed > alsa-oss.x86_64 1.0.17-1.fc10 > installed > alsa-oss-devel.x86_641.0.17-1.fc10 > installed > alsa-oss-libs.x86_64 1.0.17-1.fc10 > installed > alsa-plugins-jack.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 > installed > alsa-plugins-oss.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 > installed > alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 > installed > alsa-plugins-samplerate.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 > installed > alsa-plugins-upmix.x86_641.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 > installed > alsa-plugins-vdownmix.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 > installed > alsa-tools.x86_641.0.17-1.fc10 > installed > alsa-utils.x86_641.0.18-6.fc10 > installed > alsamixergui.x86_64 0.9.0-0.4.rc1.fc9.2 > installed > balsa.x86_64 2.3.26-2.fc10 > installed > bluez-alsa.x86_644.17-2.fc10 > installed > callweaver-alsa.x86_64 1.2.0.1-1.2.fc10 > installed > python-alsaaudio.x86_64 0.3-1.fc9 > installed > > I'm not sure if the alsa-lib.i386 is necessary or caused by > some fumbling around I've done. Thanks Stan. That sort of looks like there should be no problem in having an earlier version of the alsa driver than the versions of alsa-lib, and alsa-utils. I'm trying to help someone with sound problems with Fedora 10. All sound modules are loaded, but no soundcard detected. This is on an OQO pocket pc machine. He has another 3 of these machines, which are using Centos 5.2, and sound is working on these, but no sounds from the one with Fedora 10 installed. www.oqo.com Centos 5.2 is using alsa driver version 1.0.14rc3, and sounds are fine, yet Fedora 10 using alsa driver 1.0.17, has all snd modules loaded, but no soundcard detected. The thread starts yesterday, with the subject line. F10-No sound on my OQO Any suggestions to resolving Robert's problem Links to the output after running the alsa-info.sh script below. The link below is the output from running alsa-info.sh on F10 http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a984f3d7859f7c239c6ecf2cbf5614a1fbdd6c And the link below is the output for running alsa-info.sh on his Centos installs. http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5d592ffd6dd37b033a165c4c4701651b84d76155 Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ctf-alt-F2
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Patrick Dupre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Qui 04 Dez 2008, Patrick Dupre escreveu: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Patrick Dupre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Since I moved from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10, I lost the functionality of the ctl-alt-Fx in a X session. In text mode every works fine, but from a X session, it breaks jsut the session. thank for your help. Hmm. switching to virtual consoles tty2 through tty6 works for me using the keyboard shortcuts. in F10 runlevel 5 the X session now starts on the first virtual terminal which is mapped to ALT-CTRL-F1 but the second virtual terminal at ALT-CTRL-F2 should still exist as a console login. run this command: ps aux |grep mingetty you should see mingetty running on tty2 through tty6 by default if you started in runlevel 5. this is correct, but I start in runlevel3 I log in tty1, then startx Then if I make Ctl-Atl-F2, it scratches the X session. What does this mean exactly? You can't change to TTY2 or you change to TTY 2 and after that you're unable to get back to the X session? Yes I can go to tty2, but at the same time it breaks the X session (I cannot go back of course by doing Ctl-Alt-F7, ie, when I try do do it, I am back in tty1, where I started x, in tty mode). I am using gnome Stupid question, but are you sure it's switching back to VT1? As has already been said, F10 runs the X session on VT1, not VT7. Switching to VT7 will give you a console session, which is apparently what you're seeing. If so, it's working correctly. Let say, I startx a X session from tty1 (startx), then, what never I do: Ctl-Alt-Fx (x=1-10), it breaks the X session and I am back to tty1 with the following messages (is their a log file for the X session ?) 8:/usr/bin/X(xf86Wakeup+0x369) 9:/usr/bin/X(WakeupHandler+0x52) 10: 11: 12: 13:/lib/libc.so.6(--libc-shut-main+0xe5) Fatal server error Caught signal 11. Server aborting finished PPL2 finished PPL1 Entering Restore TV Restore TV PLL Restore TVHV Restore TV Restarts Restore Timing Tables Restore TV Standard Laeving Restore TV xinit: connection to Xserver lost Waiting for Xserver to shut down -- --- == Patrick DUPRÉ | | Department of Chemistry| |Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | |Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Weather icons missing in GNOME clock applet [SOLVED-ish]
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 15:37 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I assume the location display is the map of the world. When I hover over > a location I get no _SET_ button. What am I doing wrong? > > Below the map should be the locations you have entered. Hovering over the text should make the set button appear. Once you have set your _HOME_ location a house icon appears in place of the set button. - Brian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
radeon/hd, video and Java
Hi there I have an Ati FireGL V5200 (Thinkpad Z61p). This means that out of the box I have two choices for Video-Drivers: radeon and radeonhd, fglrx not being available for F10 yet (if ever). First I used the radeon driver, which worked well, until I realized that jEdit (a Java based text editor) becomes very sluggish, esp. with selections and generally a lot happening on the screen. jEdit being my editor of choice I resolved to fix this somehow. And I could fix it by switching to the radeonhd driver. This radeonhd driver however gives my slow video performance, especially in fullscreen mode. This is rather annoying. Does anybody have any insight on how to resolve any of those two shortcommings? I don't care which driver to use eventually, they both work well otherwise. thanks for any thought, /W -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Weather icons missing in GNOME clock applet [SOLVED-ish]
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:38 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 17:51 -0800, Brian Gaynor wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 10:45 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 03:50 +0100, Frode Petersen wrote: > > > > Matthew Saltzman skrev: > > > > > I have a fresh F10 install. I have the clock applet preferences set > > > > > to > > > > > show weather and temperature, but neither shows up on the taskbar. > > > > > There is space in the applet to show them, but it's empty. > > > > > Any idea what I should look for to fix this? > > > > > > > > Have you set a location in the applet's configuration? That made the > > > > difference here. > > > > > > Good thought, but yes, I have a location set. In fact, I tried several > > > cities of increasing size with no joy. > > > > > > If I have no locations, there is no blank space for weather icons in the > > > clock display (which makes sense). If I have a location, the space is > > > there, but no icons. > > > > > > The icons do show in the location display when I pop the calendar down. > > > The standalone weather applet works as expected. And on another machine > > > with a similar fresh install, the clock applet works fine too. > > > > I actually had to hit the _SET_ button in the location display (hover > > over the location area to see the button) before I could get weather to > > display. Magic appearing _SET_ button is poor design IMHO. > > Aha. So I hit the SET button, finally figured out that it wanted my > password, not root's, and it replaced the SET button with a home icon. > Now weather displays fine. In retrospect, it's clear what's going on--I > had wondered how the applet knew what weather to display. > > It would be nice if it were at least clearer what was being set by that > button and what privileges were needed to set whatever it is. > > Thanks! > > > > > - Brian I assume the location display is the map of the world. When I hover over a location I get no _SET_ button. What am I doing wrong? > -- === Professional wrestling: ballet for the common man. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: esc and rhgb
--- On Fri, 12/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: esc and rhgb > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 12:02 PM > On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:40:05 -0600 > Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Several people have suggested that you can switch to > the > > details when rhgb is running by typing esc. That does > not > > work for me. I can hit the details tab but not esc. > Where > > have I gone wrong? -- > > That is what is in the release notes and it didn't work > for > me either. One of the first things that I always do with a > new system is to eliminate the "hidden" and rghb > from > grub.conf. I really think that this should be the default. > Hiding the output on a new install is really > counter-intuitive - for me. I have never quite understood > this obsession with a windows-like boot process. I second this: in fact, I think all the information flying past does have the potential to inform and teach, even the person not initially interested. > Sometimes I think that the worst enemy of Linux is trying > to make it too much like Windoze. Agreed, again! What I hate about Windoze is the few times I have used it has meant: "The program has performed an illegal operation and will shut down". What is the use of this? Similar with some of the graphical messages that come out of PackageKit: this morning, it said "resolving dependencies" and got stuck with an error "Could not resolve dependencies". I prefer yum anyday. My views. T -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Weird behavior on x86_64 install - worth bugzilla?
I installed Fedora 10 x86_64 from the DVD. When I booted into it after install, iptables was not started and sshd was active. When I went System->Admin->services, it let me see the services, but would not allow me to change them. I started iptables by logging into a console as root, and putting in my custom configuration, then saved it. I rebooted today and noticed that the services seems to be working now, it asks for the root password like it did in F9. And iptables came up properly after the boot. Is this worth a bugzilla, or is it just behavior as normal or has it already been fixed? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9 to F10 upgrade problem
Peter J. Stieber wrote: After fixing the grub problem I rebooted to find the machine is using a Fedora 10 kernel, but the majority of the packages on the machine are for Fedora 9. When I run you update there are dependency problems due to the odd configuration. Is there anything I can do to work around this? You could use the manual yum upgrade procedure described here. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum/YumUpgradeFaq#Upgrading_Fedora_Using_Yum It sounds like you are part way through the procedure already. It might be as simple as just running yum upgrade to complete it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Parsing Digital Audio Files:
Original Message Subject: Re: Parsing Digital Audio Files: From: stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Date: 12/05/2008 02:39 PM You want audacity, a sound editor. I think the latest version has tags built in but you could also use id3tags. Then just use a CD burner to burn the songs as audio. I think k3b can do that. I don't do that, so have no experience. brasero over K3b is a better choice. The latest version in Fedora 10 is pretty much equal to K3b. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Which alsa packages are default in Fedora 10
Nigel Henry wrote: I'm trying to help someone with sound problems on Fedora 10. I don't have F10 installed, and am not sure which alsa packages are installed on a fresh install of F10. I know the alsa-driver is 1.0.17, but he is showing alsa-lib as 1.0.18rc3, and alsa-utils as 1.0.18. This seems a bit strange, as the alsa driver is an earlier version than those for alsa-lib, and alsa-utils. Could someone have a look in Yumex, and see which alsa-lib, and alsa-utils versions are installed on their machine. Please say whether this is after or before doing a post install yum update, and if the rpmfusion repo's are enabled, or not. Many thanks for replies. Nigel. I don't know about default, but I have the following alsa packages on a fully updated Fedora 10 x86_64 system after customizing. alsa-lib.i3861.0.18-6.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-lib.x86_64 1.0.18-6.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-lib-devel.x86_641.0.18-6.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-oss.x86_64 1.0.17-1.fc10 installed alsa-oss-devel.x86_641.0.17-1.fc10 installed alsa-oss-libs.x86_64 1.0.17-1.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-jack.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-oss.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-samplerate.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-upmix.x86_641.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-plugins-vdownmix.x86_64 1.0.18-1.rc3.fc10 installed alsa-tools.x86_641.0.17-1.fc10 installed alsa-utils.x86_641.0.18-6.fc10 installed alsamixergui.x86_64 0.9.0-0.4.rc1.fc9.2 installed balsa.x86_64 2.3.26-2.fc10 installed bluez-alsa.x86_644.17-2.fc10 installed callweaver-alsa.x86_64 1.2.0.1-1.2.fc10 installed python-alsaaudio.x86_64 0.3-1.fc9 installed I'm not sure if the alsa-lib.i386 is necessary or caused by some fumbling around I've done. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Laser Printers
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 04:19 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > Anyone know of any good ones that aren't that expensive and print pretty > fast? Do they connect via USB and/or parallel cable and how supported > are they for linux? > > -- > Mike Chambers > Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using a HP Color LaserJet 2605dn which is network connected. Works great with Fedora 10, Ubuntu 8.10 and Windows XP. I am very satisfied with it. -- Donald A. Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Parsing Digital Audio Files:
Jeff Maxwell wrote: I have digital audio CDs that were created by copying cassette inputs to a CD recorder. This put 2 tracks on the CD; one for each side of the cassette. Each track contains several songs. I would like to parse each song to separate files/tracks, edit them with the appropriate song information then burn them to a new CD output. thanks. You want audacity, a sound editor. I think the latest version has tags built in but you could also use id3tags. Then just use a CD burner to burn the songs as audio. I think k3b can do that. I don't do that, so have no experience. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: start up order for vmware2, httpd and samba?
L wrote: After install, vmware-config.pl configuration and reboot, the startup order is S28vmware, S85http and S91nmb S91smb. after login as normal user, I did not see any of these ports are listened (902 904 8222 and 8333). However, after login and restart vmware or vmware-mgmt, these ports are listening, vmware works. did I miss some thing here? Well, since VMware is what's listening on ports 902, 904, 8222, & 8333 it should only have been necessary to restart the VMware service. Logging out and back in again shouldn't have been necessary. Thanks Y -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio:
Jeff Maxwell wrote: I am in need of a way to process an analog stereo input device to digital. I basically have old cassettes and reel-to-reels that I would like to convert to digital. I do have an old CD recorder that I have been using but it has started to have issues not being able to read the CDs I insert. I would think the better method would be some way to connect the audio output of the cassette/reel-to-reel device to the input of my sound card and do some type of capture. Has anyone had any success at this and how do handle 2 rca type outputs from the analog to the single sound card input? Thanks. Yeah, you buy a Y connector with two RCA that goes to a single jack for line in on the sound card, usually a mini. Then set up audacity to record from line in instead of mic and start the player. Once they are in audacity you can do whatever you want with them. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Parsing Digital Audio Files:
I have digital audio CDs that were created by copying cassette inputs to a CD recorder. This put 2 tracks on the CD; one for each side of the cassette. Each track contains several songs. I would like to parse each song to separate files/tracks, edit them with the appropriate song information then burn them to a new CD output. thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Analog-to-Digital Audio:
I am in need of a way to process an analog stereo input device to digital. I basically have old cassettes and reel-to-reels that I would like to convert to digital. I do have an old CD recorder that I have been using but it has started to have issues not being able to read the CDs I insert. I would think the better method would be some way to connect the audio output of the cassette/reel-to-reel device to the input of my sound card and do some type of capture. Has anyone had any success at this and how do handle 2 rca type outputs from the analog to the single sound card input? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Laser Printers
Mike Chambers wrote: Anyone know of any good ones that aren't that expensive and print pretty fast? Do they connect via USB and/or parallel cable and how supported are they for linux? A couple of years ago I picked up a Samsung CLP-510 at a BJs for $200. Its a color laser and had "Linux Compatible" written on the box. No complaints on how well it works with Linux. It even came with LPR-ng drivers when I was running FC3 and it continues to work with FC5 and F8. Samsung now has a "unified" Linux driver, so things may have improved in that area. It has an optional second paper tray. Also has a side feeder for envelopes and strange sized paper. USB interface, the CLP-510N had a network card for ethernet access. Parallel is obsolete printer technology these days. The only complaint I have is the price of toner ($100-125 per cartridge for each of 4 colors: CMYB. You can find closer to $75 if you go with "refilled" cartridges). Also, $35 for a toner waste cartridge (throw it away when its full). Just like the inkjets, they gouge you on the consumables. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Which alsa packages are default in Fedora 10
I'm trying to help someone with sound problems on Fedora 10. I don't have F10 installed, and am not sure which alsa packages are installed on a fresh install of F10. I know the alsa-driver is 1.0.17, but he is showing alsa-lib as 1.0.18rc3, and alsa-utils as 1.0.18. This seems a bit strange, as the alsa driver is an earlier version than those for alsa-lib, and alsa-utils. Could someone have a look in Yumex, and see which alsa-lib, and alsa-utils versions are installed on their machine. Please say whether this is after or before doing a post install yum update, and if the rpmfusion repo's are enabled, or not. Many thanks for replies. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F9 to F10 upgrade problem
I have a machine with a old Tyan S2885 MB. I had the x86_64 version of Fedora 9 loaded on it. I boot the machine to run level 3. I recently started noticing problems with the video card when I would use startx to get into GNOME. Symptoms included stray pixels left set to funny values when moving windows around... I stupidly left this graphics card in the machine when I used an x86_64 DVD to upgrade the machine. The install died after loading approximately 750 of approximately 900 packages. It just froze. I restarted the install. It appeared to pick up where it left off by installing about 150 packages. After fixing the grub problem I rebooted to find the machine is using a Fedora 10 kernel, but the majority of the packages on the machine are for Fedora 9. When I run you update there are dependency problems due to the odd configuration. Is there anything I can do to work around this? TIA, Pete -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Errors installing Cisco VPN
2008/12/5 Christopher A. Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 18:39 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: >> Hi All; >> >> I got the latest vpnclient download from cisco -I'm running 64bit Fedora 10 >> >> I un-tarred the vpnclient-linux-x86_64-4.8.00.0490-k9.tar.gz (as root) in the >> /opt dir >> >> then in the new vpnclient dir I ran this: >> >> ./vpn_install >> >> and after following the prompts I get this error: >> >> Making module >> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.27.5-117.fc10.x86_64/build SUBDIRS=/opt/vpnclient >> modules >> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.5-117.fc10.x86_64' >> scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in >> "/opt/vpnclient/Makefile". >> Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Stop. >> make[1]: *** [_module_/opt/vpnclient] Error 2 >> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.5-117.fc10.x86_64' >> make: *** [default] Error 2 >> Failed to make module "cisco_ipsec.ko". > > > >> >> Thoughts ? > > The Cisco vpn client is *very old* software. It hasn't worked out of the > box in several years because they continue to make depricated system > calls and just generally don't keep up with kernel updates. > > I'm sure someone will come up with another work-around in the code to > make the newest kernel work fairly soon. > > Otherwise, I would advise that unless you have a specific need for the > Cisco client, use the Cisco VPN client plugin that comes with > NetworkManager (NetworkManager-vpnc). It will import settings from a > cisco .pcf configuration file and works impressively well. The only time > I haven't been able to use it with a Cisco VPN gateway was almost 3 > years ago with an old employer who was using a vpn tunneling setting > that was considered old back then. > > Cheers, > > Chris > > -- > == > By all means marry; > If you get a good wife, you'll be happy. > If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher. > > --Socrates > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > I installed vpnc-0.5.1-6.fc9.i386 openvpn-2.1-0.29.rc15.fc9.i386 NetworkManager-vpnc-0.7.0-0.11.svn4326.fc9.i386 openvpn-auth-ldap-2.0.3-3.fc9.i386 and got the mesage "VPN1 cannot start because the VPN Service failed to start" i also need this *really very old* client to make it work with kernel 2.6. any suggestions in order to make my connection work? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Boost lib problem on Fedora
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 10:00 +0100, John007 wrote: > Hi all, > > I am installing TPP on fedora 9.0. When I compiled the TPP, the error > information is following: > g++:usr/lib/libboost_iostreams.a: no such file or directory > g++:usr/lib/libboost_regex.a: no such file or directory > g++:usr/lib/libboost_program_options.a: no such file or directory > > I have installed the boost-devel-static.i386, boost-doc.i386, > boost-static.i386 packages by "yum install boost* " from fedora website. I > could find libboost*.so files under /usr/lib, but I could not find any > libboost*.a files there. What is wrong for me? Where can I find the *.a > files? Or do I need to reinstall the boost package from boost.org website? > In F10, these are in the boost-static RPM. The i386 ones should be in /usr/lib. The x86_64 ones are in /usr/lib64. > I will really appreciate any help for it. Thanks > > John > > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while
--- On Fri, 12/5/08, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for > using Fedora.'" > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 1:19 PM > hi globe... > > you might want to try and download/install the radeonhd > driver, and replace > the radeon in the conf file. > > i have f9, and had issues with f9 freezing on my toshiba > laptop. downloading > the radeonhd driver, and replacing the raden driver in the > xorg file seems > to have solved the issue. > > you can download the "radeonhd" driver using yum > (not sure of the actual > filename" but check google..) > > in the xorg.conf file, > > replace > Driver "radeon" > with > Driver "radeonhd" > > see what happens!! > Many thanks! But I do not have a AMD: my processor is Intel Xeon. T -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:32:45 -0800 (PST) Fred Silsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > nothing wrong with your reasoning except that you can't > constrain everybody to accept *your* logic > > such is the stuff of religious wars > > live and let live > You are right. I learned that lesson from the Prop 8 contest. -- "Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda" http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
On Friday 05 December 2008, Fred Silsbee wrote: >why not let everybody do as they please? That folks, is the crux of the matter right there. >If somebody then makes a mess, it is their problem Which when there are problems, we try to solve, and if its beyond our knowledge, yell for help with. Knowledge does not get expanded if the 'what if' question is never asked. >Do you want to call the fire department and report a person who just filled > up their 2 gallon container? With what, gasolene? For my lawn mower? Donbesilly. >meddling No, just reminding folks that the darned thing is ours at the end of the day. Not Bills or Steves. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) "Someone's been mean to you! Tell me who it is, so I can punch him tastefully." -- Ralph Bakshi's Mighty Mouse -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Weather icons missing in GNOME clock applet [SOLVED-ish]
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 17:51 -0800, Brian Gaynor wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 10:45 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 03:50 +0100, Frode Petersen wrote: > > > Matthew Saltzman skrev: > > > > I have a fresh F10 install. I have the clock applet preferences set to > > > > show weather and temperature, but neither shows up on the taskbar. > > > > There is space in the applet to show them, but it's empty. > > > > Any idea what I should look for to fix this? > > > > > > Have you set a location in the applet's configuration? That made the > > > difference here. > > > > Good thought, but yes, I have a location set. In fact, I tried several > > cities of increasing size with no joy. > > > > If I have no locations, there is no blank space for weather icons in the > > clock display (which makes sense). If I have a location, the space is > > there, but no icons. > > > > The icons do show in the location display when I pop the calendar down. > > The standalone weather applet works as expected. And on another machine > > with a similar fresh install, the clock applet works fine too. > > I actually had to hit the _SET_ button in the location display (hover > over the location area to see the button) before I could get weather to > display. Magic appearing _SET_ button is poor design IMHO. Aha. So I hit the SET button, finally figured out that it wanted my password, not root's, and it replaced the SET button with a home icon. Now weather displays fine. In retrospect, it's clear what's going on--I had wondered how the applet knew what weather to display. It would be nice if it were at least clearer what was being set by that button and what privileges were needed to set whatever it is. Thanks! > > - Brian > > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 freezes after a while
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:19 PM, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi globe... > > you might want to try and download/install the radeonhd driver, and replace > the radeon in the conf file. > > i have f9, and had issues with f9 freezing on my toshiba laptop. downloading > the radeonhd driver, and replacing the raden driver in the xorg file seems > to have solved the issue. > > you can download the "radeonhd" driver using yum (not sure of the actual > filename" but check google..) > > in the xorg.conf file, > > replace > Driver "radeon" > with > Driver "radeonhd" > > see what happens!! I don't think it will work. I remember looking at the wiki for them recently and I believe the radeon HD driver is only for R500 and newer GPUs[1]. My wife has a Laptop with the 200M chipset which has either a R300 or R350 with the lockup issue, however, the nomodeset fixed it for her. Richard [1] http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd#head -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: root in FC 10 > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 6:20 PM > On Friday 05 December 2008, Dave Cross wrote: > >2008/12/5 Mike Dwiggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I upgraded a throw away test system from FC 8 to > FC 10. When it finished, > >> I tried logging in as root user and could not. > >> > >> Logging in as a normal user I went to a text > session and the su command > >> worked with the old root password. > >> > >> Did I do something wrong or is this something new > to 10? > > > >Disabling root login is a common security practice. > Sounds like it's > >been disabled by default in F10. That's got to be a > good thing. > > Apparently so, but then the install doesn't add the one > user it asks you to > define to the sudoers file, and to fix that requires a > reboot to single mode. > > >As someone else has said, you can enable it again by > fiddling with the > >pam files, but please consider whether you really want > to do that. Why > >not log as a normal user and then use su (or, better, > sudo) on the > >rare occasions when you need root access? > > > >Dave... > > > > -- > Cheers, Gene > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of > liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that > order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked if > I had any firearms with me. I said, "Well, what do > you need?" > -- Steven Wright > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines why not let everybody do as they please? If somebody then makes a mess, it is their problem Do you want to call the fire department and report a person who just filled up their 2 gallon container? meddling -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
On Friday 05 December 2008, Dave Cross wrote: >2008/12/5 Mike Dwiggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I upgraded a throw away test system from FC 8 to FC 10. When it finished, >> I tried logging in as root user and could not. >> >> Logging in as a normal user I went to a text session and the su command >> worked with the old root password. >> >> Did I do something wrong or is this something new to 10? > >Disabling root login is a common security practice. Sounds like it's >been disabled by default in F10. That's got to be a good thing. Apparently so, but then the install doesn't add the one user it asks you to define to the sudoers file, and to fix that requires a reboot to single mode. >As someone else has said, you can enable it again by fiddling with the >pam files, but please consider whether you really want to do that. Why >not log as a normal user and then use su (or, better, sudo) on the >rare occasions when you need root access? > >Dave... -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked if I had any firearms with me. I said, "Well, what do you need?" -- Steven Wright -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while
hi globe... you might want to try and download/install the radeonhd driver, and replace the radeon in the conf file. i have f9, and had issues with f9 freezing on my toshiba laptop. downloading the radeonhd driver, and replacing the raden driver in the xorg file seems to have solved the issue. you can download the "radeonhd" driver using yum (not sure of the actual filename" but check google..) in the xorg.conf file, replace Driver "radeon" with Driver "radeonhd" see what happens!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Globe Trotter Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 10:00 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while --- On Thu, 12/4/08, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.'" > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 10:51 PM > hey globe.. > > what's the driver that you're using in the > xorg.conf? Here is the xorg.conf: # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "single head configuration" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "radeon" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Many thanks, T -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while
--- On Thu, 12/4/08, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Fedora 10 freezes after a while > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for > using Fedora.'" > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 10:51 PM > hey globe.. > > what's the driver that you're using in the > xorg.conf? Here is the xorg.conf: # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "single head configuration" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "radeon" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Many thanks, T -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Current state of multi-core awareness
Original Message Subject: Re: Current state of multi-core awareness From: Richard Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Date: 12/05/2008 10:26 AM On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 15:43 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: Couldn't dependency resolution for multiple packages be done psuedo-parallel when doing updates or installs? No, yum explodes in several hundred pieces if you try to try to use multiple threads. I don't even think rpm is threadsafe. Richard. I cannot say for certain, but RPM seems threadsafe to me.. Would it not be possible for this scenario: 1. yum reading packages you wish to install/update/remove one at a time (just like now) 2. yum hits a dependency and reads the deplist 3. yum forks another depresolve and continues on the original list, but the root package has not changed. yum max fork = # of CPUs 4. yum will not continue to the next package until all depresolves have completed. This may have some time savings, unless the root depsolve completes before the forked depsolve. Just throwing out an idea. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Current state of multi-core awareness
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Richard Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, yum explodes in several hundred pieces if you try to try to use > multiple threads. I don't even think rpm is threadsafe. right the codebases we have right now are not threadsafe. I realize that. My question was more blue sky in nature. Assuming that you don't screw around with librpm at all and leave it as it is. Are there steps in the depsolving which could be done in parallel python threads which would be a large enough time savings to matter? Or is everything of interest done via a call into librpm? -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Current state of multi-core awareness
2008/12/5 Les <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > A few are: Games, graphics processing programs, engineering programs, > some database programs, some web programs, search programs and of course > those folks that like to steal spare compute cycles. > > Regards, > Les H I think part of the problem is the lack of multi-core support in Python and many Fedora applications are written in Python. But not being a Python-guru I'm not sure so don't quote me. :) Actually, just found this article which is of some relevance: http://blog.snaplogic.org/?cat=29 Chris. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10: Unrequested automatic installation
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:00:36 -0500 Robert Locke wrote: > So, again, why were these three packages installed (not just updated) on > my system without my requesting it, shortly after a boot and login? I saw exactly the same thing with the same three packages on this computer as well. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: esc and rhgb
2008/12/5 Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Several people have suggested that you can switch to the details when > rhgb is running by typing esc. That does not work for me. I can hit the > details tab but not esc. Where have I gone wrong? You can press Escape to see the details in plymouth - the new replacement for rhgb in F10. Maybe that's where you heard it? Chris. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: esc and rhgb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:40:05 -0600 Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Several people have suggested that you can switch to the details when rhgb is running by typing esc. That does not work for me. I can hit the details tab but not esc. Where have I gone wrong? -- That is what is in the release notes and it didn't work for me either. I had to press esc a number of times for it to 'take'. One of the first things that I always do with a new system is to eliminate the "hidden" and rghb from grub.conf. I really think that this should be the default. Hiding the output on a new install is really counter-intuitive - for me. I have never quite understood this obsession with a windows-like boot process. Sometimes I think that the worst enemy of Linux is trying to make it too much like Windoze. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
--- On Fri, 12/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: root in FC 10 > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 4:56 PM > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:25:15 -0500 > Robert Moskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Already done that. Just chirping in again about why > > someone relatively sane would want to log in as > root... > > > I'm sure that I will get blasted for writing this but > this > is an issue that seems overdone. Whatever self-inflicted > damage I can do as root I can do with su. > > There are many reasons that I like to boot into a new > install as root to L5. There are quite a few things > that need to be done as root. Sure, I can do all of these > tasks from a terminal command line in L5. However, it is > more time consuming and sometimes arcane (trying to find > the correct executable). > > I don't think that best practices preclude logging in > as > root. In contrast, I think that the idea is to use an > alternate user as your regular log-in, using root only as > required. Again, I am unable to appreciate a great deal of > difference between logging in as root and using su > providing that you are only logging in as root to do system > configuration and maintenance. > -- > "Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda" > http://www.tips-Q.com > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines nothing wrong with your reasoning except that you can't constrain everybody to accept *your* logic such is the stuff of religious wars live and let live -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10: anybody else noticed this
--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Steve Repo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Steve Repo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: F10: anybody else noticed this > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 4:53 PM > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Alexander Volovics > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > During installation of F10 (or immediately after) > > gnome-session (or a parent proces of gnome-session) > > spawns a zombie Xsession. > > I will look next time. > > > > > I have installed F10 on 3 different machines and all > > ot them show this (i686 and x86_64). > > > > Futhermore the install does not eject the DVD. > > I had to choose 'boot from local disk' upon > rebooting > > for the second time, or quickly remove the DVD. > > > > This one took me by surprise and I ran into this several > times. I was > telling one of my windows collegues that the disk will be > ejected > automatically after install and we waited .. waited ,. much > to my > embarrasment it rebooted to installer again. > > We had to yank it out by pressing the eject button. > > I was so used to the disk eject after install and it *was* > quite nice, > Not sure if it's a bug or intentional and I hope this > works again in > F11. > > Steve > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines you'd think nobody ever tried it before releasing it! luckily after reboot, there are a number of choices before any change is made to the HD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help with DNS hell
Jim wrote: Janez Košmrlj wrote: Jim wrote: Max Kanat-Alexander wrote: The simplest workaround is these instructions: http://www.fedorafaq.org/f10/#dns-slow They are working perfectly well for me. -Max Max is right, And I second that. Jim Hi, I tried the workaround mentioned on fedorafaq.org on my sisters laptop but dns queries still don't work. I also tried the firefox ipv6 setting and it also doesn't work. I run fedora 10 with all the latest patches. Everything worked perfectly last week when I installed fedora10. Janez Did you check in Services if you dnsmasq is running. And restart your computer Dnsmasq is running I restarted the computer and in /etc/resolv.conf the first line is 127.0.0.1 so it should be configured correctly. is there some special option in dnsmasq.conf that I should check -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help with DNS hell
Janez Košmrlj wrote: Jim wrote: Max Kanat-Alexander wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:32:47 -0200 "Andre Costa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm having a *real* hard time trying to use F10 due to DNS problems [ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459756] The simplest workaround is these instructions: http://www.fedorafaq.org/f10/#dns-slow They are working perfectly well for me. -Max Max is right, And I second that. Jim Hi, I tried the workaround mentioned on fedorafaq.org on my sisters laptop but dns queries still don't work. I also tried the firefox ipv6 setting and it also doesn't work. I run fedora 10 with all the latest patches. Everything worked perfectly last week when I installed fedora10. Janez Did you check in Services if you dnsmasq is running. And restart your computer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: esc and rhgb
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:40:05 -0600 Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Several people have suggested that you can switch to the > details when rhgb is running by typing esc. That does not > work for me. I can hit the details tab but not esc. Where > have I gone wrong? -- That is what is in the release notes and it didn't work for me either. One of the first things that I always do with a new system is to eliminate the "hidden" and rghb from grub.conf. I really think that this should be the default. Hiding the output on a new install is really counter-intuitive - for me. I have never quite understood this obsession with a windows-like boot process. Sometimes I think that the worst enemy of Linux is trying to make it too much like Windoze. -- "Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda" http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Laser Printers
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 04:19:37AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > Anyone know of any good ones that aren't that expensive and print pretty > fast? Do they connect via USB and/or parallel cable and how supported > are they for linux? well, FWIW among all the other suggestions, I'll point out that my Brother HL2070 works great. No hassles. Plug it in, configure it using the defaults, and bob's your uncle! I've got it on my hardwired LAN, and it "just works" from my centos 5 Linux box, my Fedora laptop, my Ubuntu scanner host, and my familys' windoze boxen. No hassle. Unfortunately they seme to have dropped that model. They are now selling a 2170w which appears to be its replacement. I've not tried using one of those with Linux, but I DID see it on newegg the other day for some ridiculously low price, under a hundred bucks. Ah. here it is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828113291 on sale until 12/6, so hurry if you want one! :) Good luck! -- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Lord is like a strong tower. Those who do what is right can run to him for safety. --- Proverbs 18:10 (niv) - pgpgBRL8sdMkX.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Current state of multi-core awareness
A few are: Games, graphics processing programs, engineering programs, some database programs, some web programs, search programs and of course those folks that like to steal spare compute cycles. Regards, Les H On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 17:42 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:41 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Of the thousands of 64-bit F10 applications/tools/utilities, I wonder how > > many are aware of and can scale across multiple cores. Has anyone done a > > recent survey to see which packages are [not] multi-core aware? > > I may be way off-base here, but I would expect very few if any apps > are "multi-core aware". Multiple cores get you better performance when > more than one process needs the cpu, but a single I/O-limited process > isn't going to go any faster. Likewise, single-threaded apps can't do > anything with multiple cores even if they aren't I/O limited. > Specialized parallel-programming apps are a different matter, but how > many of those do we typically see on a desktop? > > poc > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD halts on segfault during boot
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Tom Lenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I installed F10 from the Fedora-10-x86_64-DVD iso. When I try to boot, it > soon freezes up. Here's some of what I see on the screen at the time: > > device0mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table > device-mapper: table ioctl failed: No such device or address. > init[1]: segfault at 10 ip (big hex number) sp (another big hex number erro > 4 in libdevmapper.so.1.02[7f1e752a300+15000] > nash recieved SIGSEGV! Backtrace (16): > I have installed F10 x86_64 on quite a few recent systems (AMD 780G from Biostar/ASUS and Zotac Nvidia 8200) and haven't run into any such issues. Can you tell us a bit more about your hardware? Thanks, Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root in FC 10
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:25:15 -0500 Robert Moskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Already done that. Just chirping in again about why > someone relatively sane would want to log in as root... > I'm sure that I will get blasted for writing this but this is an issue that seems overdone. Whatever self-inflicted damage I can do as root I can do with su. There are many reasons that I like to boot into a new install as root to L5. There are quite a few things that need to be done as root. Sure, I can do all of these tasks from a terminal command line in L5. However, it is more time consuming and sometimes arcane (trying to find the correct executable). I don't think that best practices preclude logging in as root. In contrast, I think that the idea is to use an alternate user as your regular log-in, using root only as required. Again, I am unable to appreciate a great deal of difference between logging in as root and using su providing that you are only logging in as root to do system configuration and maintenance. -- "Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda" http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10: Unrequested automatic installation
Robert Locke wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 08:56 -0500, Robert Locke wrote: This seems unusual: Fresh install of F10 (from DVD) couple of days after release (28-Nov). I have added rpmfusion and livna repositories when the install was done. This morning after booting and logging in, a little bubble opened in the lower right hand corner that said some updates were complete. I had not requested any updates. Previous updates had all been done by me typing "yum update" in a gnome-terminal. Reviewing /var/log/yum.log to see what was installed I find the following: Dec 05 08:02:19 Installed: createrepo-0.9.6-3.fc10.noarch Dec 05 08:02:20 Installed: 1:anaconda-yum-plugins-1.0-3.fc10.noarch Dec 05 08:02:21 Installed: preupgrade-1.0.0-1.fc10.noarch Why were these packages automatically installed without me requesting them? Furthermore, I found the System-Preferences-System-Software Updates and it has been set to (what I presume the defaults are, since this is my first time in that dialog): Check for updates: Daily Automatic install: Nothing Check for major upgrades: Weekly Both Display notifications are checked/on So, again, why were these three packages installed (not just updated) on my system without my requesting it, shortly after a boot and login? What sinister things is PackageKit doing here? :-) --Rob It's tempting to "break" PackageKit so that it doesn't work anymore and see what happens. Bradley -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
