Outage Notification: Koji, Wiki, Smolt, Transifex
Outage Notification - 2008-12-16 08:10 UTC There has been an unplanned outage beginning at 2008-12-16 08:10 UTC. There is currently no ETA for resolving these issues. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '-MM-DD HH:MM UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem (Koji) Database (all postgresql and mysql databases on db3) Websites (Transifex, Smolt, Wiki) Translation Services Unaffected Services: CVS / Source Control DNS Fedora Hosted Fedora People Fedora Talk Mail Mirror System Torrent Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1059 Reason for Outage: db3, our current Koji PostgreSQL server and MySQL server is having disk problems. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. pgpKkaHaqJBLr.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
Re: Leaflet design. Suggestion please.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hi Susmit, susmit shannigrahi wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leaflet.png This is the front page only. Rest should be easy. I made this for a local fedora booth at my place. Please suggest improvements. One quick suggestion - the '10' is in the wrong font. It looks maybe like Deja Vu but it should be MgOpen Modata. I just copied the design, but, yes it is wrong..I just overlooked it.. Thanks for pointing out. -- Regards, Susmit. = ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit = ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Leaflet design. Suggestion please.
Hi Susmit, susmit shannigrahi wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leaflet.png This is the front page only. Rest should be easy. I made this for a local fedora booth at my place. Please suggest improvements. One quick suggestion - the '10' is in the wrong font. It looks maybe like Deja Vu but it should be MgOpen Modata. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Leaflet design. Suggestion please.
susmit shannigrahi wrote: Why did you made the metallic base brown/golden? It is grey in the splash: http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/f10launch.png I did both, and the second one looked a bit more glossy. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leaflet.png and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leaflet1.png But the other looks more consistent with our website, I think consistency is a plus. Don't you think the screenshots are too blurry (small resolution) to be printed like this? Yes, they are. I am replacing them. Is a high resolution version of this picture is available somewhere? http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/f10launch.png Unfortunately the source is a SVG with embedded bitmaps, so it will be a bit of help but not very much, you will have to add new screenshots and maybe a new texture: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Fedora10-0day-banner.svg And I believe you have here the front and back page, the copyright disclaimer looks like the last page. Yes, you are rightmy fault that I didn't mention the last page. An finally, I think you can use an image with sharp, not rounded corners. Ok. Will remove the rounded corners. The bad news is that the metal texture embedded in the SVG above has the corners rounded. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Leaflet design. Suggestion please.
Why did you made the metallic base brown/golden? It is grey in the splash: http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/f10launch.png I did both, and the second one looked a bit more glossy. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leaflet.png and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leaflet1.png Don't you think the screenshots are too blurry (small resolution) to be printed like this? Yes, they are. I am replacing them. Is a high resolution version of this picture is available somewhere? http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/f10launch.png And I believe you have here the front and back page, the copyright disclaimer looks like the last page. Yes, you are rightmy fault that I didn't mention the last page. An finally, I think you can use an image with sharp, not rounded corners. Ok. Will remove the rounded corners. Thanks a lot. :) -- Regards, Susmit. = ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit = ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Leaflet design. Suggestion please.
I did both, and the second one looked a bit more glossy. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leaflet.png and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leaflet1.png Sorry, the first one looked more glossy...that's why I put it up. -- Regards, Susmit. = ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit = ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Echo] Making final decisions about perspective
Hi, First sorry for not hearing from me for such a long time - I don't have much spare time lately... Next, I think we need to make final decisions about the new perspective to Echo and update the guidelines appropriately. My ideas about this can be summarized as follows: We will start new Echo Perspective icon theme which will * be developed in parallel to the current Echo * until it reaches good enough coverage, it will fallback to current Echo and gnome-icon-theme * use same Perspective Projection as in tango/mango for 32x32 icons and bigger, and in cases where it helps icon distinction in smaller sizes as well, Flat Perspective will be used for the rest * allow small amount of glows/glazes/shines in 256x256 version to achieve better realistic look * use ~ 1 px thick solid borders at *all* sizes Apart from that I'd like to chose the final design for monitor (keyboard is not yet prepared), folders and trash. You can see the candidates (there aren't many) at the wiki page dedicated for this purpose [1]. If you still wish to add your candidate - the design does *not* need to be complete for that purpose - you still have time. I hereby announce the closing date for adding your candidates is 24.12.2008 (though I don't expect many people working on this particular date). We will then decide the which designs we will use and the results will be officially announced in the next Echo Monthly News issue (whose November's issue I skiped due to lack of time and enough content). Finally I'd like to propose, and add it to our guidelines, that we allow small amount of bitmap post-processing in our icons under these conditions: * the post-processed bitmap must look closely similar to the original SVG * the post-processing used must be fully reproducible using either ImageMagick or gimp and must be documented * only steps that can be automated must be used Your comments on all theses matters are welcome. Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconTheme/Perspective signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
FUDcon 2009 - Promo1
Hello again! This is another test, but for FUDcon. I'm fixing some mistakes... so if anyone have suggestions, I'll be glad of take it :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTM-VDjTkDY sources: http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/fedora-videos/FUDcon09/ hope you like it :D -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FUDcon 2009 - Promo1
maria, once again, really cool...and this time no spelling errors! :p i wonder if it would be a good idea to add what exactly fud stands for, or do you think the primary audience of this promo would know what it means already.. but yeah, cool video! -klaatu 2008/12/16 María Leandro tat...@fedoraproject.org Hello again! This is another test, but for FUDcon. I'm fixing some mistakes... so if anyone have suggestions, I'll be glad of take it :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTM-VDjTkDY sources: http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/fedora-videos/FUDcon09/ hope you like it :D -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- --- uzu linukso. subtenu libera programaro. kotizu al http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml http://www.fedorareloaded.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FUDcon 2009 - Promo1
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 01:41:17PM -0800, Klaatu wrote: maria, once again, really cool...and this time no spelling errors! :p i wonder if it would be a good idea to add what exactly fud stands for, or do you think the primary audience of this promo would know what it means already.. but yeah, cool video! Very cool! And yes, I agree with Klaatu that a quick transformation of fedora users and developers into fud would be great, if there's a way to add it. Otherwise, wow, this is just... wow! -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgplKIOYMIef1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Redone Liveusb poster for F10.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Marketing_LiveUsbCreator_usblive-f10.svg Can anyone please export this to png and upload somewhere? While exporting Inkscape seems to hang in my relatively slower machine... -- Regards, Susmit. = ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit = ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FUDcon 2009 - Promo1
María Leandro wrote: Hello again! Hi, This is another test, but for FUDcon. I'm fixing some mistakes... so if anyone have suggestions, I'll be glad of take it :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTM-VDjTkDY Nice video! But someone has to ask this: how is licensed the music you used for the sound track? is by any chance licensed under a sort of CC license? If so, I hope not a NC or ND and surely is has the BY clause, you will have to attribute the author. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
OpenSuSE Buildsystem
I've been talking with some of the SuSE guys and we agree there's some overlap or at least coordination between their buildsystem and ours. The first obvious low hanging fruit is common macros. For those who wonder why would we help OpenSuSE? the answer is common goals, and better user experiences. The problem is time and coordination. So on a whim I thought I'd send this email out. Do we have any contributors out there who are both members of Fedora and SuSE who would be willing to lead this charge, find similarities and places for coordination? -Mike -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: OpenSuSE Buildsystem
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 10:48:48 am Mike McGrath wrote: I've been talking with some of the SuSE guys and we agree there's some overlap or at least coordination between their buildsystem and ours. The first obvious low hanging fruit is common macros. For those who wonder why would we help OpenSuSE? the answer is common goals, and better user experiences. The problem is time and coordination. So on a whim I thought I'd send this email out. Do we have any contributors out there who are both members of Fedora and SuSE who would be willing to lead this charge, find similarities and places for coordination? I think that common macros needs to be solved at rpm.org level. not a buildsystem level. koji has no say in any of the macros it uses what is defined inside the distro. the macros fedora uses are defined in rpm and redhat- rpm-config, the disttag macro is defined in fedora-release. I see great benefit to everyone by having that problem solved at the rpm.org level. it will make it much easier to pickup packages and fixes cross distro. that is not a bad thing. especially for ISV's and upstreams supporting all distros they only need to do the work once and build everywhere. Working directly with them to fix issues for there buildsystem however I feel causes some conflicts. namely it legitimises the use of there buildsystem for building fedora/RHEL packages. I know people use it and will continue to do so. but I would ask why? is there some service that fedora could provide and is not? is it because you can be lazy and sloppy in the packaging and it lets you? is it just being able to do it in a single place? We do need to get out of the business of running two buildsystems. we really do need to be able to build EPEL in koji. I have scheduled a koji hackfest for fudcon. so if your there and interested then come help. there is always #koji on freenode for discussion on koji, so if you cant make it in person you can be there virtually :) Dennis -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: OpenSuSE Buildsystem
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:00:00 +0100 (CET), Andreas wrote: AFAICS BuildRequirements were implemented by parsing #-commented lines and adding the named packages to the dependency list. Confirmed. Has this behaviour changed? Yes. http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Package_Conventions/RPM_Style#1.3._BuildRequires_Tag -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
[Bug 471542] Build fontforge with cairo, pango and spiro support
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471542 --- Comment #3 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com 2008-12-16 18:11:53 EDT --- I have just built a new version with cairo/pango support. I just submitted a libspiro package for review. See bug 476758 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 472637] libpng.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directo
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472637 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution||RAWHIDE --- Comment #6 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com 2008-12-16 18:19:49 EDT --- The 20081215 version I just built in rawhide should have this corrected. Closing this now. Feel free to reopen this or file a new one if you spot anything. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 458592] Incorrect glyph points and missing hinting instructions for U+0079, U+03BC, U+0431, U+2010..2012.
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458592 Bug 458592 depends on bug 459451, which changed state. Bug 459451 Summary: Changes in glyph point settings window could not be applied. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459451 What|Old Value |New Value Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution||CURRENTRELEASE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 459451] Changes in glyph point settings window could not be applied.
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459451 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution||CURRENTRELEASE Flag|needinfo?(ccha...@redhat.co | |m) | --- Comment #10 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com 2008-12-16 18:18:59 EDT --- This seems already applied upstream, I am gonna go ahead and close this now. If you spot any problems with it, feel free to reopen or file a new bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 462038] Hotkeys has no response and Go To window couldn't be inputted.
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462038 Bug Zapper fedora-triage-l...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Version|rawhide |10 --- Comment #7 from Bug Zapper fedora-triage-l...@redhat.com 2008-11-25 22:03:26 EDT --- This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 10 development cycle. Changing version to '10'. More information and reason for this action is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping --- Comment #8 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com 2008-12-16 18:22:45 EDT --- Caius: Can you confirm it's SCIM causing this issue? Also, can you try the 20081215 version I just built in rawhide? Where should we go from here with this bug? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 476720] Review Request: beteckna-sfd-fonts.spec - Beteckna fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476720 Jason Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||177841 Summary|Beteckna fonts package for |Review Request: |review. |beteckna-sfd-fonts.spec - ||Beteckna fonts --- Comment #1 from Jason Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu 2008-12-16 18:32:51 EDT --- We have scripts which parse these review requests, so it is much better if you follow the submission instructions at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 347237] Making Pango use a given cairo_font_face_t
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[Bug 378927] [meta] tracking bug for issues with pixel scaling at high dpis (resolutions)
Do not reply to this email. You can add comments to this bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378927 Atsushi Sakai dev-n...@hotmail.co.jp changed: What|Removed |Added Depends on||469933 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 475743] Many chinese glyphs on Japanese environment
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475743 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Flag|needinfo?(besfa...@redhat.c | |om) | --- Comment #11 from Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com 2008-12-17 02:00:44 EDT --- I had an idea but I tested quickly and it didn't work. I'll think about it again. I have some other ideas about how to fix the CJK issues in fontconfig. I'm currently working on fontconfig. I'll see if I get to those. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: OpenSuSE Buildsystem
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: I've been talking with some of the SuSE guys and we agree there's some overlap or at least coordination between their buildsystem and ours. The first obvious low hanging fruit is common macros. For those who wonder why would we help OpenSuSE? the answer is common goals, and better user experiences. You sure about there being much overlap and thus a certain incentive to develop common macros? The last time I was paid to look at SuSE was around 2003 or so and back then there was not much common except the .spec suffix. BuildRequires weren't used at all (admittedly, Red Hat was rather frugal wrt BRs) and I haven't seen much use of %macros at all. AFAICS BuildRequirements were implemented by parsing #-commented lines and adding the named packages to the dependency list. Has this behaviour changed? On the other hand: Is the buildsystem the right place to work on common goals? I'd assume that specifically for macros, rpm.org is a better place. regards, andreas ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: OpenSuSE Buildsystem
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, Andreas Thienemann wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: I've been talking with some of the SuSE guys and we agree there's some overlap or at least coordination between their buildsystem and ours. The first obvious low hanging fruit is common macros. For those who wonder why would we help OpenSuSE? the answer is common goals, and better user experiences. You sure about there being much overlap and thus a certain incentive to develop common macros? The last time I was paid to look at SuSE was around 2003 or so and back then there was not much common except the .spec suffix. BuildRequires weren't used at all (admittedly, Red Hat was rather frugal wrt BRs) and I haven't seen much use of %macros at all. AFAICS BuildRequirements were implemented by parsing #-commented lines and adding the named packages to the dependency list. Has this behaviour changed? Don't know, we'll need someone committed to look at issues like this. On the other hand: Is the buildsystem the right place to work on common goals? I'd assume that specifically for macros, rpm.org is a better place. Possibly but we don't have any control over rpm.org, we do, however, have control over our buildsystems. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
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Re: OpenSuSE Buildsystem
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 10:48:48 am Mike McGrath wrote: I've been talking with some of the SuSE guys and we agree there's some overlap or at least coordination between their buildsystem and ours. The first obvious low hanging fruit is common macros. For those who wonder why would we help OpenSuSE? the answer is common goals, and better user experiences. The problem is time and coordination. So on a whim I thought I'd send this email out. Do we have any contributors out there who are both members of Fedora and SuSE who would be willing to lead this charge, find similarities and places for coordination? I think that common macros needs to be solved at rpm.org level. not a buildsystem level. koji has no say in any of the macros it uses what is defined inside the distro. the macros fedora uses are defined in rpm and redhat- rpm-config, the disttag macro is defined in fedora-release. I see great benefit to everyone by having that problem solved at the rpm.org level. it will make it much easier to pickup packages and fixes cross distro. that is not a bad thing. especially for ISV's and upstreams supporting all distros they only need to do the work once and build everywhere. Working directly with them to fix issues for there buildsystem however I feel causes some conflicts. namely it legitimises the use of there buildsystem for building fedora/RHEL packages. I know people use it and will continue to do so. but I would ask why? is there some service that fedora could provide and is not? is it because you can be lazy and sloppy in the packaging and it lets you? is it just being able to do it in a single place? We do need to get out of the business of running two buildsystems. we really do need to be able to build EPEL in koji. I have scheduled a koji hackfest for fudcon. so if your there and interested then come help. there is always #koji on freenode for discussion on koji, so if you cant make it in person you can be there virtually :) Dennis ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: OpenSuSE Buildsystem
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:48:48AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: I've been talking with some of the SuSE guys and we agree there's some overlap or at least coordination between their buildsystem and ours. The first obvious low hanging fruit is common macros. For those who wonder why would we help OpenSuSE? the answer is common goals, and better user experiences. The problem is time and coordination. So on a whim I thought I'd send this email out. Do we have any contributors out there who are both members of Fedora and SuSE who would be willing to lead this charge, find similarities and places for coordination? The best places for Fedora and openSUSE to collaborate are in the upstream communities where we can have the best effect on the free software community. That means rpm.org, smolts.org, GNOME, freedesktop.org, KDE, and so on. There's fertile ground there for plenty of technical development, and I feel that's the place where Fedora should be putting resources. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpn8fGYGXTFs.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: OpenSuSE Buildsystem
On Tue December 16 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: The problem is time and coordination. So on a whim I thought I'd send this email out. Do we have any contributors out there who are both members of Fedora and SuSE who would be willing to lead this charge, find similarities and places for coordination? There exists already a project to coordinate between even more distributions: http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/ There was also already a first reachout to unify packaging guidelines: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/distributions/2008-March/000100.html But there is not much activity. Regards, Till signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
noc1 moved house
Hi All, Just FYI, noc1 moved from xen2 to xen5 today which frees up xen1 and xen2 to be dedicated for releng :) - Nigel ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: noc1 moved house
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 07:27:08 pm Nigel Jones wrote: Hi All, Just FYI, noc1 moved from xen2 to xen5 today which frees up xen1 and xen2 to be dedicated for releng :) you mean releng/buildsys right? Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: noc1 moved house
Err yes, I kinda class them interchangeable though... On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 19:51 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Tuesday 16 December 2008 07:27:08 pm Nigel Jones wrote: Hi All, Just FYI, noc1 moved from xen2 to xen5 today which frees up xen1 and xen2 to be dedicated for releng :) you mean releng/buildsys right? Dennis ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Free (as in speech) flash alternative
Armin Moradi wrote: The problem is simple. I don't want to use Adobe flash and so I need a free alternative. I run F10 with KDE4.2 beta 2 (from kde-redhat repo) and it's x86_64 arch, if any of that helps. gnash-klash is the only option which works with Konqueror. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE preferences ??
fred smith wrote: I'd think it would be in the KDE Control Center, but I can't find that. where the heck is it? systemsettings (That's the name to run from a terminal if you need this under GNOME. It's hidden from the non-KDE menu by default.) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sun provides 64-bit java plugin for linux
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Phil Meyer pme...@themeyerfarm.comwrote: However, my testing of the new SUN plugin today, has so far been fruitless -- I cannot get firefox to see it as a plugin. :( F10 up to date. Works for me. Just make a symlink to libnpjp2.so in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins. Klaasjan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sun provides 64-bit java plugin for linux
Thanks for the info. I tried and it works for me too :D. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:25, Klaasjan Brand klaas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Phil Meyer pme...@themeyerfarm.com wrote: However, my testing of the new SUN plugin today, has so far been fruitless -- I cannot get firefox to see it as a plugin. :( F10 up to date. Works for me. Just make a symlink to libnpjp2.so in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins. Klaasjan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum repos
On Monday 15 December 2008 15:17:36 Todd Denniston wrote: Girish Venkatasubramanian wrote, On 12/15/2008 08:53 AM: Hello, I have been using yum on FC5 (I know I should upgrade - but I don't have that option - due to the specifications at work) without any issues till about a couple of weeks ago. For the last couple of weeks, every time I try to install something via yum I end up getting the message Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: core What are you installing on FC5 via yum anymore? Good question anyway. Lots cut. base: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/5/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS updates: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/5/i386/ Tony -- Dept. of Comp. Sci. University of Limerick. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: K3B , burning a audio CD Project
Jim wrote: The audio files I'm trying to burn are Wav Mpeg Layer 3 Audio. Compressed audio in WAV containers is not supported by most software. You will have more success with .mp3 files. MEncoder has a dummy copy codec which can be used to convert container formats without recoding the content. (Don't just decode to uncompressed WAV and reencode as .mp3, you'll degrade the quality if you do that.) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora 10 and an ati 9600 graphics card
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: I don't know what you mean by console mode, but if you are saying X is acting funny Console mode is the opposite of X11 mode, so no, that's not what he's saying. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sun provides 64-bit java plugin for linux
Neal Becker wrote: After all this time, does anyone still care? No, because we have IcedTeaPlugin already, these days even with LiveConnect support, and because as far as I can tell the Sun plugin is still not Free Software. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 migration
Adil Drissi wrote: How can I upgrade my fedora 8 to fedora 9? There are several methods: preupgrade, upgrades using the installer (either from the DVD or from the HDD or through the network), live upgrades (i.e. yum upgrade on a running system - those are not officially supported, but tend to work, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq ). It is also possible to just reinstall (using either the installer DVD or a live CD), but be warned that this WILL delete all your system-wide configuration and MAY also delete your home directories (in fact it WILL delete them if you do not have a separate /home partition (resp. /root for root's home), and even if you do have one, you have to be careful not to select it for formatting). Note that live CDs may not be used to upgrade, only to reinstall. But are you sure you don't want to go straight to Fedora 10? Fedora 9 also has only 6 months of lifetime left. It's generally a good idea to always use the newest version if possible, so upgrading to the previous version is usually a bad idea. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution with mapi plugin?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 09:01 -0700, Christopher A. Williams wrote: If Evolution is so philosophically against HTML formatted messages, why do they then care to be able to render messages sent in this format? When did it stop having this usually-a-nuisance ability? I've been able to compose messages in HTML using Evolution for as long as I can remember. Granted that the features of HTML it supports are rather basic, but then so are many of the mail clients that can read HTML mail. It hasn't changed. Apparently some people either think it should be more complete, or they haven't looked for it carefully enough. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
Timothy Murphy wrote: What do the 3 growing horizontal slides at the bottom of the F-10 boot screen represent? They are rather ugly, I think, as are the whole boot graphics. Looks like some child was let in the room during development. FC-8 was the nicest, I think. Centos logo is even better than Windows logo, IMHO. Wait til you see the new Plymouth at its best. You have to append vga=0x318 to kernel line in grub.conf for 1024x768 graphical boot. Otherwise you get the text boot mode which you are seeing. This is all explained in the release notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#sn-Fedora_10_boot-time = # The graphical boot splash screen that comes with Plymouth requires kernel mode setting drivers to work best. There are not kernel modesetting drivers available for all hardware yet. To see the graphical splash before the drivers are generally available, add vga=0x318 to the kernel grub command line. This uses vesafb, which does not necessarily give the native resolution for a flat panel, and may cause flickering or other weird interactions with X. Without kernel modesetting drivers or vga=0x318, Plymouth uses a text-based plugin that is plain but functional. # == John Brier -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Mono laser suitability in Fedora
I was looking at the Samsung ML-1630W printer - as a relatively cheap laser printer for the home. Does anyone have any experience with this printer for Fedora (10) ? I would appreciate knowing about any nasty surprises that might bite if I went ahead and bought this printer? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Mono-laser-suitability-in-Fedora-tp21033988p21033988.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Help Setting /dev/fw* Permissions
I know vaguely how to do this, but can't find the right file: What do I need to change so that the permissions on /dev/fw* aren't just root and ordinary users can access e.g. the video camera? Same question for /dev/video*. Cheers, rh -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
John Brier wrote: What do the 3 growing horizontal slides at the bottom of the F-10 boot screen represent? They are rather ugly, I think, as are the whole boot graphics. Looks like some child was let in the room during development. Wait til you see the new Plymouth at its best. You have to append vga=0x318 to kernel line in grub.conf for 1024x768 graphical boot. Otherwise you get the text boot mode which you are seeing. This is all explained in the release notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/ What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#sn-Fedora_10_boot-time = The graphical boot splash screen that comes with Plymouth requires kernel mode setting drivers to work best. There are not kernel modesetting drivers available for all hardware yet. To see the graphical splash before the drivers are generally available, add vga=0x318 to the kernel grub command line. This uses vesafb, which does not necessarily give the native resolution for a flat panel, and may cause flickering or other weird interactions with X. Without kernel modesetting drivers or vga=0x318, Plymouth uses a text-based plugin that is plain but functional. == I did actually read that, but didn't understand it. In the same section, I found the sentence Currently, only Radeon R500 and higher users get kernel modesetting by default particularly puzzling. Does this really mean that plymouth only works properly with this particular kind of ATI card? Strange ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
Timothy Murphy wrote: I did actually read that, but didn't understand it. In the same section, I found the sentence Currently, only Radeon R500 and higher users get kernel modesetting by default particularly puzzling. Does this really mean that plymouth only works properly with this particular kind of ATI card? Strange ... I think you are correct. Since plymouth needs kernel mode setting to work properly(without vesafb) it only works out of the box with those devices. However plymouth can work with most graphics if you select vesafb by using the vga= boot parameter. That's how I read that anyway. I can tell you though that vga=0x318 works here on a nvidia graphics card and a 19 LCD with natie resolution 1280x1024.. also 0x31B is the proper resolution John Brier -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dmraid mkinitrd under F10 x86_64 (No Puppies Harmed)
Robert L Cochran wrote: And the output of `ls /dev/mapper` Charles Crayne wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:09:44 -0500 Raymond C. Rodgers sinful...@gmail.com wrote: From what I've seen, this can be done through initrd/mkinitrd some how, Apparently, I don't understand what you are trying to do. I am running software raid on three i386 machines and one x86_64 machine, and I have never needed any magic. Perhaps if you posted your fstab, and the output of parted -l, I would understand your problem well enough to offer some useful advice. *fstab:* UUID=b601345c-1a2f-464a-ab3d-9a25d528df8d / ext3defaults1 1 UUID=9f0b2cc8-7c0e-49f6-8366-483af19fca89 /boot ext3defaults1 2 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 sysfs /syssysfs defaults0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 UUID=d4c09963-7244-413b-9d85-26ad476b66d6 swap swapdefaults0 0 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swapswapdefaults0 0 /dev/sdc1/media/primentfs-3gdefaults0 0 /dev/mapper/nvidia_gdedfbbjp5 /media/safehousentfs-3gdefaults0 0 //192.168.0.107/share/media/linkstationcifs users,gid=users,file_mode=0666,dir_mode=07770 0 //192.168.0.107/sharedmedia/media/linkstation_mediacifs users,gid=users,file_mode=0666,dir_mode=07770 0 */dev/mapper before activating dmraid manually:* [r...@localhost etc]# ls -l /dev/mapper/ total 0 crw-rw 1 root root 10, 63 2008-12-16 03:31 control brw-rw 1 root disk 253, 0 2008-12-16 08:31 VolGroup00-LogVol00 brw-rw 1 root disk 253, 1 2008-12-16 03:31 VolGroup00-LogVol01 */dev/mapper after activating dmraid manually (with the command line I've been using since installing F10)* [r...@localhost etc]# dmraid -a yes nvidia_gdedfbbj RAID set nvidia_gdedfbbj was activated RAID set nvidia_gdedfbbjp2 was activated RAID set nvidia_gdedfbbjp5 was activated [r...@localhost etc]# ls -l /dev/mapper/ total 0 crw-rw 1 root root 10, 63 2008-12-16 03:31 control brw-rw 1 root disk 253, 2 2008-12-16 11:16 nvidia_gdedfbbj brw-rw 1 root disk 253, 3 2008-12-16 11:16 nvidia_gdedfbbjp2 brw-rw 1 root disk 253, 4 2008-12-16 11:16 nvidia_gdedfbbjp5 brw-rw 1 root disk 253, 0 2008-12-16 08:31 VolGroup00-LogVol00 brw-rw 1 root disk 253, 1 2008-12-16 03:31 VolGroup00-LogVol01 The goal is to get dmraid activated automatically on boot like it once was, and not need to manually activate it and mount the nvidia_gdedfbbjp5 partition. As you might notice from the fstab, the individual partitions that make up nvidia_gdedfbbjp5 are not listed in the fstab file, yet Fedora is mounting them automatically everytime I boot. From what I learned in the past, that may be related to how the F10 installer saw the machine configured during installation, it decided to build an initrd with them mounted individually. From what I recall from F8 or F9, I had to use mkinitrd with dmraid activated and the nvidia_gdedfbbjp5 device mounted to get it to behave the same way; there was no need to modify /etc/fstab. But I have not been able to duplicate that, nor have I been able to find the instructions that I used previously. Raymond -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE preferences ??
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Timothy Murphy t...@maths.tcd.ie wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: In my system the System Settings menu is directly under the K Menu (as well as under Computer). Since I didn't change anything from the defaults, I assume that's normal. 1) My KDE menu seems to differ slightly on various machines, perhaps according as I used preupgrade or not? I didn't, if it matters. I did a fresh install. 2) I don't find the organisation of the KDE menu at all intuitive. I find it somewhat more intuitive (or less unintuitive :-) than the KDE 3.5 version, but that's just me. Sorry, but I think Bill got this one right, or nearly so. Bill? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: adjusting window sizes in Gnome
fred smith wrote, On 12/15/2008 08:55 PM: Another question re F10 on my eeepc 901: I've got most stuff adjusted to my liking. But there are a few apps whose default window size is the 600 pixels of my screen. I know I can drag the entire window around with ALT-DRAG--that works fine. SNIP There must be a Gnome setting somewhere for this, but so far I haven't found it. This is irritating, the only way I can then resize a window to be taller than the screen is by dragging the BOTTOM off the screen and stretching from the top. Since I'm usually doing this because the row of buttons at or near the bottom has been obscured, that means I then have to drag the bottom off the screen, stretch the top, then drag the top off the screen so I can access the bottom, rather than just enlarging it from the bottom. Suggstions welcome. Thanks! you might see if some of the offending applications obey the X or Xt lib '-geometry' setting, i.e, on the command line try: bigprog -geometry 512x600 from the X man page -geometry WIDTHxHEIGHT Then modify the buttons (in menus) you click to pass the '-geometry' setting of your choice. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE preferences ??
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 2) I don't find the organisation of the KDE menu at all intuitive. I find it somewhat more intuitive (or less unintuitive :-) than the KDE 3.5 version, but that's just me. Sorry, but I think Bill got this one right, or nearly so. Bill? The unmentionable one. Husband to Melissa. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How do I turn off KGet ?
Somehow I turned on KGet. How do I turn it off ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
John Brier wrote: In the same section, I found the sentence Currently, only Radeon R500 and higher users get kernel modesetting by default particularly puzzling. Does this really mean that plymouth only works properly with this particular kind of ATI card? Strange ... I think you are correct. Since plymouth needs kernel mode setting to work properly(without vesafb) it only works out of the box with those devices. However plymouth can work with most graphics if you select vesafb by using the vga= boot parameter. That's how I read that anyway. Surely it is very odd to distribute a program which only works properly on such a restricted range of hardware? I feel I must be misunderstanding something. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: service network restart won't run via su
From: James Kosin jko...@beta.intcomgrp.com To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:46:07 -0500 Subject: Re: service network restart won't run via su Wade Hampton wrote: I upgraded a laptop from F8 to F9 and now have an issue If I log in as a normal use, open an xterm, then type su, I used to be able to run /sbin/service network restart Now it fails: # /sbin/service network restart env: /etc/init.d/network: Permission denied I tried calling it directly: # /etc/init.d/network status bash: /etc/init.d/network: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied However, I can still run it as: /bin/bash /etc/init.d/network status Any ideas? -- Wade Hampton Wade, I believe this may be because you didn't use the 'su -' command. The '-' tells su to import the users profile properties as well. Nope, that's not the issue. The problem is SeLinux. I have tried su, su -, and logging on a console screen as root - same problem. If I turn off selinux (setenforce 0), I can run /sbin/service network restart and it runs fine. If I turn SeLinux back on, it fails again. Seems like a messed up SeLinux policy. Any hints on how to verify and/or fix? -- Wade Hampton -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gnome sound recorder
I'm sure I'm not the first person to raise this sort of issue, but audio settings can be most confusing... Having installed Fedora 10 from scratch, I got Sound recorder working after some trial and error. It's been fine for a couple of weeks - I've been using it regularly. However, I also use Audacity in order to edit out clicks in the sound files and somehow Sound recorder has got messed up. It now records a sound which stutters on playback, with little bits of sound interspersed with silence. Audacity says the saved .oga file is not recognised. The breakdown occurred during a session when I had Sound recorder on (but not recording) and started Audacity at the same time. A mistake, evidently. Does anyone recognise these problems? What can I do to fix them? Not to put too fine a point on it, the various help files are useless... The one for Sound Preferences describes an interface which is completely different from what you actually see. Help, please! James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
Original Message Subject: Re: What are these F-10 boot slides? From: Timothy Murphy t...@maths.tcd.ie To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: 12/16/2008 10:38 AM Surely it is very odd to distribute a program which only works properly on such a restricted range of hardware? I feel I must be misunderstanding something. It still works with all hardware. However, for flicker-free operation kernel-mode-setting is required. Did you bother to go turn it on? I doubt you'll be saying Fedora 8 boot was better for much longer. If you really must know why this was done, please search the Fedora wiki or google search for the Fedora Kernel Mode Setting feature.[1] [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KernelModesetting -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 04:38:41PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: John Brier wrote: In the same section, I found the sentence Currently, only Radeon R500 and higher users get kernel modesetting by default particularly puzzling. Does this really mean that plymouth only works properly with this particular kind of ATI card? Strange ... I think you are correct. Since plymouth needs kernel mode setting to work properly(without vesafb) it only works out of the box with those devices. However plymouth can work with most graphics if you select vesafb by using the vga= boot parameter. That's how I read that anyway. Surely it is very odd to distribute a program which only works properly on such a restricted range of hardware? I feel I must be misunderstanding something. The boot screen is somewhat secondary to the main target of decreasing boot time. Whether any particular machine gets the spiffy graphic, it should still boot significantly faster using the new system. Although kernel mode setting hasn't been implemented for all cards, it was originally supposed to also work for Intel too -- until Intel made an eleventh-hour change. We hope to have those and many more cards working with the spiffy boot graphics for Fedora 11, but regardless, boot speed is a very important consideration. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgp0Ckpt6JrHo.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Absolutely minimal X window manager
What are the most minimal X window managers for F9? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 - KDE - Terminal Server Client - Switch Desktop Key Bindings
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: I love some of the new features in TSClient - especially the toggle between windowed and full screen but have questions... I run 8 desktops. Keybindings exist for the first 4 (ControlF1 through ControlF4)...how do I add keybindings for the next 4? TSClient seems to intercept these same keybindings so they never work when the foreground application is TSClient/RDesktop. Is there something I can change to let me switch in TSClient/RDesktop? You can change the keybindings. Might be doable directly from Ksettings, if not, I'll send you the config file one I find it again. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Linux holds back the kids
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Don Raikes don.rai...@oracle.com wrote: I agree wholeheartedly. My oldest son is in college (ready to graduate this year), and last christmas break he converted his laptop to ubuntu. When my youngest son had problems with vista on his brand-new laptop, he installed ubuntu as a dual boot and was able to use it for everything except for playing some online games he liked. So the kids do like linux once they get to know it. -Original Message- From: Antonio Olivares [mailto:olivares14...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:53 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: OT: Linux holds back the kids Dear all, This is somewhat OT, but in light of this, I have to disagree with that teacher who made the claim. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/15/helios_linux_texas_teacher/ I am a math teacher at a high school in Texas and I have 10 machines running Linux, 8 running Fedora 10, one running Fedora 8, and the other running OpenSuse 11.0(just updated). My students at first did not seem to like the Linux machines, but now they are at home with them and some of them asked me for copies and I gladly gave them a Fedora 10 install DVD. I have been running Linux at school since 2002/2003 and my students asked me what version of Windows were my machines?. I told them it was Linux, one was Mandrake 9, another was Red Hat 9. Machines worked beautifully and did the job I wanted. I told them about Linux, some students actually graduated and use Linux, only that they prefer Ubuntu and they come and tell me about it. They tell me it(Ubuntu) picks up the wireless and your Fedora does not. I tell them as long as it works and it is Linux that I am very happy that they are running it. Sorry to take up your time. I hope you enjoy reading the article if you get to it. Regards, Antonio He has two options for games which I am only aware of, but haven't used myself as I don't play games on my computer: 1) Wine / Codeweaver 2) Get a copy of Windows XP (might be able to get one free or cheap from school) and run it in a virt machine. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 - KDE - Terminal Server Client - Switch Desktop Key Bindings
I love some of the new features in TSClient - especially the toggle between windowed and full screen but have questions... I run 8 desktops. Keybindings exist for the first 4 (ControlF1 through ControlF4)...how do I add keybindings for the next 4? TSClient seems to intercept these same keybindings so they never work when the foreground application is TSClient/RDesktop. Is there something I can change to let me switch in TSClient/RDesktop? Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE preferences ??
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Arthur Pemberton pem...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:18 PM, fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: Hi! I'm running F10 on my eeepc 901 , so I'm interested in making things it as best I can on a small screen. In Gnome (default desktop) I've chosen small fonts for everything and it works out well, mostly. But for KDE apps, they all display with a HUGE font, especially but not only for the window decoration and menus. I can't figure out how to adjust the settings KDE uses for its apps. I'd think it would be in the KDE Control Center, but I can't find that. where the heck is it? Or, if not there, where/how would I find controls for such things? KDE4 no longer has the Control Center as such. Instead, it has System Settings under the main menu: F-System Settings-Appearance-Fonts. To be slightly clearer: (KDE Menu) - Computer - System Settings - Appearance - Fonts. In my system the System Settings menu is directly under the K Menu (as well as under Computer). Since I didn't change anything from the defaults, I assume that's normal. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE preferences ??
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 11:20:45 fred smith wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:48:44PM -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:18 PM, fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: Hi! I'm running F10 on my eeepc 901 , so I'm interested in making things it as best I can on a small screen. In Gnome (default desktop) I've chosen small fonts for everything and it works out well, mostly. But for KDE apps, they all display with a HUGE font, especially but not only for the window decoration and menus. I can't figure out how to adjust the settings KDE uses for its apps. I'd think it would be in the KDE Control Center, but I can't find that. where the heck is it? Or, if not there, where/how would I find controls for such things? KDE4 no longer has the Control Center as such. Instead, it has System Settings under the main menu: F-System Settings-Appearance-Fonts. To be slightly clearer: (KDE Menu) - Computer - System Settings - Appearance - Fonts. After a little stumbling around I found the kde systemsettings app, which takes me where I wanted to go. (I don't have KDE menus, and can't figure out how to do a switchdesk, so I had to dig a bit.) Thanks to both of you! Fred, if menu access is unwieldy, just right click on the desktop, get krunner (also alt-F2 brings it up) and type in 'systemsettings' Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Video Capture
Not specific to Fedora (my apologies in advance). Can someone suggest a method by which I could capture flash/flv content? In other words, I want to capture a streaming video to disk. Can this be done? -- Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE preferences ??
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 14:18:44 Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: In my system the System Settings menu is directly under the K Menu (as well as under Computer). Since I didn't change anything from the defaults, I assume that's normal. 1) My KDE menu seems to differ slightly on various machines, perhaps according as I used preupgrade or not? 2) I don't find the organisation of the KDE menu at all intuitive. Sorry, but I think Bill got this one right, or nearly so. I didn't like it, so I hardly ever use it. I have panel shortcuts for the things I need instant access to, and I set the less-frequently-used-but- necessary apps to have an icon on the favourites screen. After all that, I still hardly use it. I find that typing part of the name into krunner works better for me. (alt+F2 or desktop right-click, if you haven't found krunner). Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: OT: Linux holds back the kids
I agree wholeheartedly. My oldest son is in college (ready to graduate this year), and last christmas break he converted his laptop to ubuntu. When my youngest son had problems with vista on his brand-new laptop, he installed ubuntu as a dual boot and was able to use it for everything except for playing some online games he liked. So the kids do like linux once they get to know it. -Original Message- From: Antonio Olivares [mailto:olivares14...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:53 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: OT: Linux holds back the kids Dear all, This is somewhat OT, but in light of this, I have to disagree with that teacher who made the claim. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/15/helios_linux_texas_teacher/ I am a math teacher at a high school in Texas and I have 10 machines running Linux, 8 running Fedora 10, one running Fedora 8, and the other running OpenSuse 11.0(just updated). My students at first did not seem to like the Linux machines, but now they are at home with them and some of them asked me for copies and I gladly gave them a Fedora 10 install DVD. I have been running Linux at school since 2002/2003 and my students asked me what version of Windows were my machines?. I told them it was Linux, one was Mandrake 9, another was Red Hat 9. Machines worked beautifully and did the job I wanted. I told them about Linux, some students actually graduated and use Linux, only that they prefer Ubuntu and they come and tell me about it. They tell me it(Ubuntu) picks up the wireless and your Fedora does not. I tell them as long as it works and it is Linux that I am very happy that they are running it. Sorry to take up your time. I hope you enjoy reading the article if you get to it. Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 17:00:16 Paul W. Frields wrote: The boot screen is somewhat secondary to the main target of decreasing boot time. Whether any particular machine gets the spiffy graphic, it should still boot significantly faster using the new system. Although kernel mode setting hasn't been implemented for all cards, it was originally supposed to also work for Intel too -- until Intel made an eleventh-hour change. We hope to have those and many more cards working with the spiffy boot graphics for Fedora 11, but regardless, boot speed is a very important consideration. Well, on my netbook it has been spectacularly unsuccessful. The boot time is horrifically long. It seems that it first tries to bring up my wireless connection, failing miserably, then it tries to mount my 3 defined nfs mounts. Two of them are always available, one is not always. Instead of a reasonably short wait time, then moving on, it seems to wait a very long time. If anyone's interested I'll time it. Failing gracefully is something it needs to learn. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I turn off KGet ?
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 14:36:47 Linuxguy123 wrote: Somehow I turned on KGet. How do I turn it off ? Have you a panel icon? Just right click on it, and Quit. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 08:32 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Gilboa Davara wrote: Sorry to snip so muchbut one thing struck me You said: Last and not least, the OP (at least the message I saw) was talking about VMWare Server 2.x which had a known issue with PAM [1] and SELinux (...) that didn't really seem to get VMWare's attention. When I tried getting support (mind you, at the time we were thinking about spending a lot of money on ESX - for me the VMWare Server 2.x deployment was just testing purpose) - I got the ever-annoying-company line - we only support RHEL and SLES I wonder how you could find their response annoying.. They state very clearly in their documentation what 32-bit and 64-bit host Linux OS they support. They also state very clearly what 32-bit and 64-bit host Windows OS they support. They also state the requirements for guest OS as well as what levels of the various browsers are supported. So I don't understand. Are you saying that VMware has no right to impose some boundaries on what they will and will not support? Are they bound by some contract to provide answers/solutions to a free product for every flavor of Linux used as host OS? Or, are you saying that their only obligation is to support every version of Fedora for free? And if so, what make Fedora so special to get support? Right? They have a right to do what-ever they want. I never argued otherwise. Question is - should Fedora go along with their decision, and support their semi-broken RPMs, half-working SELinux support, missing upstream kernel support and their decision to keep certain features Windows-only. FWIW my vote is a (big) no - Fedora's resources will be better spent on qemu-kvm and virt-*. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 migration
Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Adil Drissi wrote: How can I upgrade my fedora 8 to fedora 9? # yum install preupgrade # preupgrade Follow the on screen instructions. Be aware that you may run into problems with the preupgrade method. See the thread http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2008-12/msg01683.html I encountered this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218181 which is 2 years old and marked as urgent. Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
Original Message Subject: Re: What are these F-10 boot slides? From: Anne Wilson an...@kde.org To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: 12/16/2008 11:22 AM Well, on my netbook it has been spectacularly unsuccessful. The boot time is horrifically long. It seems that it first tries to bring up my wireless connection, failing miserably, then it tries to mount my 3 defined nfs mounts. Two of them are always available, one is not always. Instead of a reasonably short wait time, then moving on, it seems to wait a very long time. If anyone's interested I'll time it. Failing gracefully is something it needs to learn. Anne The whole NFS startup procedure was left in without any changes with respect to NetworkManager taking the reins in network device control. I tried searching for a bug on it, but I didn't see anything. I know NetworkManager will automount NFS upon IP configuration, so there needs to be investigation into whether the NFS init scripts can be modified to include #if $NetworkMananger eq 1; exit 0; instead of processing normally. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE preferences ??
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Timothy Murphy t...@maths.tcd.ie wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: In my system the System Settings menu is directly under the K Menu (as well as under Computer). Since I didn't change anything from the defaults, I assume that's normal. 1) My KDE menu seems to differ slightly on various machines, perhaps according as I used preupgrade or not? Are you on F10? I haven't noticed this year across 3 machines, only one on F10 though. But I use the favourites and search features a lot. 2) I don't find the organisation of the KDE menu at all intuitive. Sorry, but I think Bill got this one right, or nearly so. I actually like the new KDE menu. It's more useful to me. In 3.5, I used the run dialog a lot more. And if you mean Bill Gates, Vista's menu resembled KDE's a bit, just less useful. Can generate a screenshot if interested. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:24:46AM -0500, John Brier wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: I did actually read that, but didn't understand it. In the same section, I found the sentence Currently, only Radeon R500 and higher users get kernel modesetting by default particularly puzzling. Does this really mean that plymouth only works properly with this particular kind of ATI card? Strange ... I think you are correct. Since plymouth needs kernel mode setting to work properly(without vesafb) it only works out of the box with those devices. However plymouth can work with most graphics if you select vesafb by using the vga= boot parameter. That's how I read that anyway. I can tell you though that vga=0x318 works here on a nvidia graphics card and a 19 LCD with natie resolution 1280x1024.. also 0x31B is the proper resolution You can use 'vga=ask' to see which modes will work natively with your particular video card. For instance, on one of my machines it turns out that 'vga=0x361' is the optimal mode. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgplA9eYosVAR.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE preferences ??
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: In my system the System Settings menu is directly under the K Menu (as well as under Computer). Since I didn't change anything from the defaults, I assume that's normal. 1) My KDE menu seems to differ slightly on various machines, perhaps according as I used preupgrade or not? 2) I don't find the organisation of the KDE menu at all intuitive. Sorry, but I think Bill got this one right, or nearly so. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Video Capture
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 12:15 -0500, homb...@tips-q.com wrote: Not specific to Fedora (my apologies in advance). Can someone suggest a method by which I could capture flash/flv content? In other words, I want to capture a streaming video to disk. Can this be done? Firefox Extension - Downloadhelper Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Absolutely minimal X window manager
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:00:50 -0500 Dave Feustel wrote: What are the most minimal X window managers for F9? Depends on what your definition of minimal is. I use fvwm because I can make it stay out of my way as much as possible and it doesn't feel honor-bound to kow-tow to stupid freedesktop.org restrictions. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Rhythmbox and daap
I still use iTunes to sync my iPod and though the music files are on a shared server and I can access them in virtually every conceivable way, I wouldn't mind using the sharing feature from iTunes itself so my plays on Linux are actually tallied in iTunes. I discovered Rhythmbox has the ability to connect to shared iTunes (it's called daap) so I enabled sharing on my Windows iTunes and sure enough, Rhythmbox sees the shared server on my network but even though at the bottom of the window in sort a status bar kind of way, it says 'Retrieving songs from music share' - even after leaving it on all night, it has yet to get a single song and I don't have any security implemented to block it. Am I missing something really basic? Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What device driver for a Geode GX2
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: What is the name for the device driver for a AMD Geode GX2 video 'card'? My FC9 install did not recognize the GX2 and said the system was headless. Now I am without any xorg.conf. I wanted to try 'system-config-display --set-driver=...' to hopefully create a xorg.conf with the proper display driver. And maybe all the other sections of xorg.conf will magically appear as well. I believe you want to try yum search geode. I don't have an F9 system handy at the moment, but F10 tells me there's a xorg-x11-drv-geode.i386 : Xorg X11 AMD Geode video driver -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f10: new install; error - init ttyx respawning too fast, stopped
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 fedora 10: new install. first reboot after install, all ok. nothing changed. now, attempts to boot will error out with; init: ttyx main process () terminated with status 127 init: ttyx main process ended, respawning init: ttyx respawning too fast, stopped suggestions? pointers? links? tia. peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJR+7k+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAu+MAJ9JwuOBvV8hZgY9xZNi/4b1IkIVcwCffCwv 9l3YI4D0a0Ogmtl5u4N3xDg= =Magv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Avahi docs
man avahi produces no output. apropos avahi produces avahi [] (1) - browse - Browse for mDNS/DNS-SD services using the Avahi daemon avahi [] (1) - discover - Browse for mDNS/DNS-SD services using the Avahi daemon avahi [] (1) - publish-service - Register an mDNS/DNS-SD service or host name or address mapping using the Avahi daemon avahi [] (1) - resolve - Resolve one or more mDNS/DNS host name(s) to IP address(es) (and vice versa) using the Avahi daemon avahi [] (1) - set-host-name - Change mDNS host name avahi [] (5) - daemon.conf - avahi-daemon configuration file avahi [] (8) - autoipd.action - avahi-autoipd action script avahi [] (8) - autoipd - IPv4LL network address configuration daemon avahi [] (8) - daemon - The Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon avahi-autoipd (rpm) - Link-local IPv4 address automatic configuration daemon (IPv4LL) avahi-compat-libdns_sd (rpm) - Libraries for Apple Bonjour mDNSResponder compatibility avahi-devel (rpm) - Libraries and header files for avahi development avahi-glib (rpm) - Glib libraries for avahi avahi.hosts [] (5) - avahi-daemon static host name file avahi-qt3 (rpm) - Qt3 libraries for avahi avahi (rpm) - Local network service discovery avahi.service [] (5) - avahi-daemon static service file avahi-tools (rpm) - Command line tools for mDNS browsing and publishing kdnssd-avahi-devel (rpm) - Development files for kdnssd-avahi kdnssd-avahi(rpm) - KDE zeroconf implementation based on avahi My attempts to display the rpm-flagged commands are failing. How do I view the commands that are flagged with (rpm)? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Video Capture
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:48:09 -0700 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 12:15 -0500, homb...@tips-q.com wrote: Not specific to Fedora (my apologies in advance). Can someone suggest a method by which I could capture flash/flv content? In other words, I want to capture a streaming video to disk. Can this be done? Firefox Extension - Downloadhelper Craig Unfortunately, that only works for selected sites. -- Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 16 December 2008 17:00:16 Paul W. Frields wrote: The boot screen is somewhat secondary to the main target of decreasing boot time. Whether any particular machine gets the spiffy graphic, it should still boot significantly faster using the new system. Although kernel mode setting hasn't been implemented for all cards, it was originally supposed to also work for Intel too -- until Intel made an eleventh-hour change. We hope to have those and many more cards working with the spiffy boot graphics for Fedora 11, but regardless, boot speed is a very important consideration. Well, on my netbook it has been spectacularly unsuccessful. The boot time is horrifically long. It seems that it first tries to bring up my wireless connection, failing miserably, then it tries to mount my 3 defined nfs mounts. Two of them are always available, one is not always. Instead of a reasonably short wait time, then moving on, it seems to wait a very long time. If anyone's interested I'll time it. Failing gracefully is something it needs to learn. By design NFS should wait for success (you may not have anything else...). If failure is expected or acceptable, you need to specify bg,soft for the mount - or better yet use the automounter so you don't even consider mounting until the need arises. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Uninstall all...
I had an unusual problem during an update last night. It was entirely my fault, but a little alarming. I did a fresh installation via kickstart of Fedora 10 for i386 on a VMWare guest. No problems. On first reboot I created a regular account, su'd to root, then kicked off an update via the graphical update tool. At some point it failed during the dbus update. I exited the update tool then restarted, but the update continued to hang. I exited again and ran 'yum update' from the command line. One of the messages was that a previous transaction did not complete and to run yum-complete-transactions, then messages about some dependency errors. I ran the yum-complete-transactions but it also errored out. The apparent culprits were dbus and mesa-libGL which was preventing newer packages from updating. An 'rpm -qa' showed that there were two versions of dbus and libGL installed. I tried to delete the older package but there was a dependency error. I tried to delete the newer but it was required for the newer update. Eventually an 'rpm -e --nodeps --allmatches' got rid of the packages. Reran 'yum update' and it completed the dependency check and started the installation... This was when I realized the root of the problem. /usr was 100% full. I grew the filesystem by 500M then restarted the 'yum update' process. It complained again and informed that I needed to run yum-complete-transactions. I ran yum-update-transactions. There were a bunch of Removing... messages. Then it completed. Then I tried to run 'yum update' again. Command not found. In fact, just about every binary related to yum and rpm were gone. So was initscripts and lots of other low level utilities. I.e., everything that was set to be updated was erased without the update going in. In summary, a full filesystem and a subsequent 'yum-complete-transactions' can render the system unusable. I'm going to rebuild from the same kickstart and see if I can reproduce the error. Unfortunately, I was convinced that it was a dbus error and didn't save many logs. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: mp3 - ac3 - SP/DIF output?
Tom Horsley wrote: Probably not, I just knew ac3 output worked from the DVDs, and it isn't like ac3 encoding is putting any kind of strain on the system :-). But you're losing quality. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
What are these F-10 boot slides?
What do the 3 growing horizontal slides at the bottom of the F-10 boot screen represent? They are rather ugly, I think, as are the whole boot graphics. Looks like some child was let in the room during development. FC-8 was the nicest, I think. Centos logo is even better than Windows logo, IMHO. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help Setting /dev/fw* Permissions
RGH wrote: I know vaguely how to do this, but can't find the right file: What do I need to change so that the permissions on /dev/fw* aren't just root and ordinary users can access e.g. the video camera? Same question for /dev/video*. Cheers, rh Hi, You could look /etc/udev/rules.d and make there rules so that users can use the devices. Greetings, Veli-Pekka -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
ask for help
你好，我用的电脑是Toshiba Satellite m215 ， 显卡是ATI Mobility Radeon HD2400,在用fedora 10时，显卡驱动的问题还是没能解决， 请求帮助。-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 18:30:15 Les Mikesell wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 16 December 2008 17:00:16 Paul W. Frields wrote: The boot screen is somewhat secondary to the main target of decreasing boot time. Whether any particular machine gets the spiffy graphic, it should still boot significantly faster using the new system. Although kernel mode setting hasn't been implemented for all cards, it was originally supposed to also work for Intel too -- until Intel made an eleventh-hour change. We hope to have those and many more cards working with the spiffy boot graphics for Fedora 11, but regardless, boot speed is a very important consideration. Well, on my netbook it has been spectacularly unsuccessful. The boot time is horrifically long. It seems that it first tries to bring up my wireless connection, failing miserably, then it tries to mount my 3 defined nfs mounts. Two of them are always available, one is not always. Instead of a reasonably short wait time, then moving on, it seems to wait a very long time. If anyone's interested I'll time it. Failing gracefully is something it needs to learn. By design NFS should wait for success (you may not have anything else...). If failure is expected or acceptable, you need to specify bg,soft for the mount - or better yet use the automounter so you don't even consider mounting until the need arises. Les, I don't know the technicalities of it working. I just know that the same entries exist in fstab on my F10 netbook and Mandriva 2009 laptop. The laptop must have some sort of built-in time limit, I guess, because it doesn't make me wait over-long. Of course if NetworkManager was working on the netbook I would only have that one delay, which might then not feel too bad. As it is, you could make a cup of tea while it's booting up. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
No loop.ko in F10?!
Why is there no loop.ko in Fedora 10's kernels? I was hoping that max_part option for loop was finally merged. So I went looking for loop.ko and couldn't find it. Is there a reason it was built into the kernel? What if the max_part option finally makes an appearance, will it be built as a module again? ...Jeff -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Video Capture
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 12:15 -0500, homb...@tips-q.com wrote: Not specific to Fedora (my apologies in advance). Can someone suggest a method by which I could capture flash/flv content? In other words, I want to capture a streaming video to disk. Can this be done? Here's a hack approach that's worked for me in the past. While flash content is being streamed it is being buffered into /tmp/Flash*. It remains there until it is done being watched. That means there is a window of time between when the flash has finished downloading but before it has finished playing where it can be copied from /tmp/Flash* to (what|where)ever you want to save it. Sometimes I do this so I can watch a clean flash without any of the jerking or stutterring that may occur while watching live. hth, :m) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I turn off KGet ?
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 18:23, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 16 December 2008 14:36:47 Linuxguy123 wrote: Somehow I turned on KGet. How do I turn it off ? Have you a panel icon? Just right click on it, and Quit. Anne Hi Anne. Long time no speaks. I always use Kget, as it has resume support. I have it enabled since FC2, and it's in KDE's panel, but doesn't open up on the desktop when logging into KDE, until Fedora 9, where it opens up on the desktop, each time I login. Comparing the Kget configure for FC2, and F9, I see that F9 has Show main window at startup box checked, but on my FC2 install (where I'm posting from), that box is not checked. The same applies to all Fedora versions up to F8. Quite why anyone when logging in would want Kget's window displaying on the desktop as default is beyond me, as it's only a click on the panel icon to display Kget on the desktop. Anyway, just unchecking the Show main window at startup box in Kget's configure has stopped Kget's main window being displayed on F9's desktop, each time I bootup. A bit of added info for any one interested. Firefox's downloader doesn't appear to have resume support, so installing the Flashgot extension fixes that, as it gives you the option to use Kget for downloads. Now I don't particularly like Flashgot, as it seems to have updates every 5 mins, and also insists on opening a webpage to their site, after updating flashgot. I've got used to just clicking on the skip button now, whenever I see new updates for the Flashgot extension. All the best. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Absolutely minimal X window manager
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:57:35PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:00:50 -0500 Dave Feustel wrote: What are the most minimal X window managers for F9? Depends on what your definition of minimal is. I use fvwm because I can make it stay out of my way as much as possible and it doesn't feel honor-bound to kow-tow to stupid freedesktop.org restrictions. Absolutely minimal to me means ability to run xterm. That appears right now to be all that I need. I've used fvwm before. Is it available on F9? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Video Capture
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:48:32 -0800 Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: Here's a hack approach that's worked for me in the past. While flash content is being streamed it is being buffered into /tmp/Flash*. It remains there until it is done being watched. That means there is a window of time between when the flash has finished downloading but before it has finished playing where it can be copied from /tmp/Flash* to (what|where)ever you want to save it. Sometimes I do this so I can watch a clean flash without any of the jerking or stutterring that may occur while watching live. hth, :m) Interesting idea and thank you. I'll give it a try, -- Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f10: new install; error - init ttyx respawning too fast, stopped
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 fedora 10: new install. first reboot after install, all ok. nothing changed. now, attempts to boot will error out with; init: ttyx main process () terminated with status 127 init: ttyx main process ended, respawning init: ttyx respawning too fast, stopped suggestions? pointers? links? *in addition* checking http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_kernel_problems shows nothing. i ran a google search for above 3 'init:' lines showed nothing for f10. only thing found was for ubontu. tia. peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJSANP+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAuFHAJ9RTWcOq8kdsJdqu3tk0xXsnvOuBwCffhi6 jVTLTF/p61lbnZIDh+8eAh4= =4M+s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GPL version 4
I don't think it is that bad - the intent is for the software to be freely available for *people* to use. It is actually about our freedom. You have it right. Copyleft licenses defend freedom for all users by stopping middlemen from stripping it away. We have no plans for a version 4 of the GNU GPL. It might happen some day, but we are not working on it. As of now, we do not need to change GPL version 3. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are these F-10 boot slides?
John Brier wrote: I think you are correct. Since plymouth needs kernel mode setting to work properly(without vesafb) it only works out of the box with those devices. However plymouth can work with most graphics if you select vesafb by using the vga= boot parameter. That's how I read that anyway. I can tell you though that vga=0x318 works here on a nvidia graphics card and a 19 LCD with natie resolution 1280x1024.. also 0x31B is the proper resolution I have a system with an ATI Radeon RV535 (lspci attached) which doesn't seem to want to use all its modes. In particular it won't do 1280x1024x24, but will do 0x324 (1280x1024x32), and X refuses to offer me a mode larger than 1024x768! With vga= I get a nice startup display, four penguins, then into X in 1024x768. Try to configure the display with GUI, asks for root, display type CRT-1280x1024, modes end at 1024x768. FC9 or FC10 just don't seem to have a clue on this display stuff, I wind up with vesafb, there's a top performer, NOT! FC8 had a much better idea on this hardware, and I wish a little less effort had gone into the fancy graphical boot stuff and a little more into using all the capability of the hardware. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650 Series] (rev 9e) 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650 Series] (rev 9e) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Absolutely minimal X window manager
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:51:39 -0500 Dave Feustel wrote: I've used fvwm before. Is it available on F9? It is in the repos. Just do yum install fvwm -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Video Capture
homb...@tips-q.com wrote:
Not specific to Fedora (my apologies in advance). Can
someone suggest a method by which I could capture flash/flv
content? In other words, I want to capture a streaming
video to disk. Can this be done?
I have never tried actual streaming content, if the content is in an flv file
you can just grab it with any of several scripts. I have them for old yuoutube,
current youtube, and {something I needed at the time and forget}. You just give
it the URL and optionally the filename where you want it.
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Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot
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Re: How do I turn off KGet ?
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 18:52:00 Nigel Henry wrote: Quite why anyone when logging in would want Kget's window displaying on the desktop as default is beyond me, as it's only a click on the panel icon to display Kget on the desktop. Anyway, just unchecking the Show main window at startup box in Kget's configure has stopped Kget's main window being displayed on F9's desktop, each time I bootup. Yes, KGet's resume is very useful. However, it just suited my workflow to call it when I want it, rather than let it take up panel and desktop space when I didn't need it. I'm not certain what the original poster wanted - it may be that your description of getting rid of the main window is exactly what he was looking for :-) Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
