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Re: Artwork feedback

2009-04-07 Thread Nicu Buculei


Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:


Thank yo David for French Fedora user feedback. They are actually useful 
critics as I have consulted them about
Fedora 10 theme. If they are other Fedora contributors that can provide 
feedback from non-English speaking users (Mola, Martin, Nicu and 
others?), that will be really appreciated because it should cultural 
factors can be into play.


I didn't run a pool or forum thread on our local language website, I 
only have impressions from the IRC channel. I hear complaints about the 
landscape photoshoping(gimping), is too obvious the different pieces 
were taken from various sources and put together. I also saw the opinion 
 it looks like an image from the game Age of the Empires 1.
But usually when seeing the change to the Lion, they usually shut up and 
are happy.


But I take those with a grain of salt, people like a lot the F7 Flying 
High, which I consider bad.


IMO, the most insightful opinion I saw about the Greek landscape came on 
#fedora-art from Diego, a Brazilian guy living these days in Greece and 
working on Transifex: but in Greece they almost don't have grass, so 
the green part of the bg was a bit out of context and that was a big 
Duh! for me, since I was one wanting for more and more green.


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First time !

2009-04-07 Thread Cata

Hello !

I used fedora for one year .  I want to improve it .I working with gimp and
blender 3D .
I have few ideas and i want share them. What i need to do ?
Thank You !
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Re: First time !

2009-04-07 Thread Nicu Buculei


Cata wrote:

Hello !


Hi Catalin,

I used fedora for one year .  I want to improve it .I working with gimp 
and blender 3D .

I have few ideas and i want share them. What i need to do ?


Post here some links and talk about your ideas. You can also watch the 
ongoing discussions and take initiative when seeing something 
interesting - at this point we are supposed to finish the artwork for 
the F11 release, from wallpaper to website banners and to media art.


If you are looking for something to work on, we have a queue with 
incoming requests: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService


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Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-07 Thread Nicu Buculei


Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 07:44:52AM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Back in January I met with Mairin and others at FUDCon to plot the art  
schedule for Fedora 11.  As a casual reader of the list I know some  
things are still in flux and have changed and in some ways that is  
expected and good.  It seems that because the wallpaper was in beta you  
received feedback in time to change course.  Maybe we should build a  
feedback period into the Fedora 12 schedule?


Just shamelessly bumping John's post...  Does anyone have thoughts on
the following questions?


I guess the others where trying to pass the burden of answering to Mo 
but she was busy at work.



* Should there be a feedback period built into the F12 schedule?


This release cycle was a bit unusual, as we didn't have multiple design 
concepts and rounds, we also didn't have blog posts about them, so the 
visibility somehow decreased.
I don't think we need a feedback period, we need to get some graphics 
(concepts) as soon as possible to get feedback from the early stages. Is 
not useful if one week before the freeze we learn that everything is not 
good enough, we have to scrap it and restart.



* How can we improve the schedule of dates for Artwork deliverables,
  so that they're more realistic or constructive?

* What other changes should we make?


For both of those questions I think the best thing is that after the 
Preview Release, when we do not have the pressure of the F11 graphics on 
us, stay down and talk about what we learned and how do we plan to work 
for F12, get back to 3 rounds and the competing concepts, try once more 
a single concept, link or not to the release name and so on.


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Re: New Concept for F11 King

2009-04-07 Thread Charlie Brej


Samuele Storari wrote:

In the afternoon I will post something for the Plymouth screen.


Do you have something? I will be going to a conference from the 11th and I don't 
know what the internet connection will be like there so would be good if you 
could get me some mockups soon.


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Final artwork for F11

2009-04-07 Thread Jaroslav Reznik

Hi all!
As we are running out of time, I'd like to see if there's a progress with 
current artwork. As we're totally dependent on it for KDM theme, KSplash, 
backgrounds etc... I know, it was hard this time, last time change but... KDM 
theme has to be bug free as it's important to be able to login to desktop :) 
And there are lot of problems every time - it looks differently on different 
screens/x servers, problems with fonts, problems with logging and we really 
need lot of time to prepare it correctly.

We appreciate your hard work but we really need it ASAP to work on it or we 
don't know if we can have it in F11. Otherwise we have to go with Solar 
theme... Any helping hand is worth one truck of gold :D

What we need:
- fullscreen background for KDM and splash, included in common backgrounds 
package - so maybe left part of leon theme?
- some idea to make it good looking

Thanks
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Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-07 Thread Paolo Leoni

2009/4/6 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro


 I like it better. I think it maybe is a bit too plain and trying to find
 some way to make it a bit flashier. Maybe making it look more like a
 sunrise? A glow around the statue?


I know that it's not perfect...but do you intend something like this?

https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/24/Deepsky-fedora11-countdown-banner_1c.png
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/9a/Deepsky-fedora11-countdown-banner_1c.svg

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Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-07 Thread Martin Sourada

On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 19:11 +0200, Paolo Leoni wrote:
 
 
 2009/4/6 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro
 
 I like it better. I think it maybe is a bit too plain and
 trying to find some way to make it a bit flashier. Maybe
 making it look more like a sunrise? A glow around the statue?
 
 
 
 
 I know that it's not perfect...but do you intend something like this?
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/24/Deepsky-fedora11-countdown-banner_1c.png
 https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/9a/Deepsky-fedora11-countdown-banner_1c.svg

I think this is much better than the previous takes. The glow nicely
fits with the coming soon idea.

Martin


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Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-07 Thread Máirín Duffy

Hi John,

Thank you thank you for the email -

- Original Message
From: John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com
As a casual reader of the list I know some things are still in
flux and have changed and in some ways that is expected and good. It seems
that
because the wallpaper was in beta you received feedback in time to change
course. Maybe we should build a feedback period into the Fedora 12 schedule?

I think maybe we should add several tasks on the schedule for explicitly
blogging / otherwise announce (maybe via Fedora weekly news, any other ideas?)
the current status of the artwork so it's known more widely than this list next
time around.

I supported changing to the new design even though it has affected the
schedule. I wonder how we should handle this in the future - it has affected
the schedule negatively. We really need high-quality work like Samuele's work
and I'm quite grateful for it, but I do not want to make a
past-the-deadline-bend-the-rules thing a habit. o_O

Jon McCann had some good ideas about doing more outreach to
artists/photographers in the future and maybe doing a contest to try to get
more artwork flowing in that he had shared with me a few weeks back. I think
this might be a good new approach to try for F12.

We've learned in past releases that it helps to keep track of how things go
(in
reality) compared to the estimated schedule so that the estimated schedule
for
the next release is more realistic and achievable.

With that in mind, looking at the splash screen tasks listed in the link
below I
thought it would be a good idea to record what their completion dates were
ore
when you estimate they will be complete:
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks.html
(task numbers 10 to 21)

Here's what I know, and I hope Samuele will keep us appraised of his status and
plans as well. If we don't hear from him by Thursday, I will take this Friday
(10 April) to try finish up everything on the list that needs finishing and
I'll try to do it on the list and in IRC as much as possible to keep the
commnunication open. If anybody has time on Friday to jump in and help out, by
all means, let's do it. (And if there's no plymouth splash by Thursday morning
I'll take some time on Thursday to mock that up for Charlie, hopefully that's
enough time before he has to leave for his conference, let me know if not
Charlie!)

IMAGE LICENSE CONCERNS
===

First, I want to point out our source image license issues. I am not 100%
confident that we're clear here because I'm not sure every image used is
referenced and I am not sure about the attribution requirements of the authors
involved, but here's my understanding so far:

1) Spray paint brushes:

http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one

http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two

Fedora Legal cleared these as Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 so they should
be OK.

2) Rust Texture:
Luca cleared these with the author, see email here:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00192.html The
author explicitly mentioned he did not require attribution.

3) Lion photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tambako/494118044/
CC Attribution so shoudl be okay

I have two more questions about this topic:

1) Do we know how tambako and spoongraphics require that they be attributed to
we can properly attribute them? I am not confident a mention to their works on
our wiki would be sufficient. Perhaps a mention in the wallpaper package spec
or in the XML file that stores the metadata about the image for display in the
GNOME background dialog/capplet? How should we attribute these authors?

2) Are there any other sources here that aren't being referenced and that we
need to clear? I admittedly have not cracked open the source files yet, and
I'll be pretty disappointed to find additional graphics that have not been
referenced. There is a different lion image in the anaconda graphics. Where did
it come from?

TASK LIST STATUS

(John, I apologize these are different than your numbering scheme.)

1. Wallpaper Design
- We have the basic design from Samuele in 1920x1600:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg
- We will need this iterated out into the various standard, 4:3, and
widescreen formats. Dual-screen would be nice too.

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