Re: ActionNotAllowed: admin permission required

2009-05-26 Thread Mike Bonnet

Tom Stage wrote:

Hi all

Well I have to admit that I am in the same boat as the last thread with the
same Subject, this config is also with SSL configured and it seems to be ok
and running good, I can log in to the web interface.

I have Koji installed on a Fedora 10 x86_64 system, and I have followed the
HowTo at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji/ServerHowTo and I to cant seem
to execute the following commands as an example:

System info:
Uname -a 
Linux koji 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:08:10 EDT

2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Rpm -qa
koji-builder-1.3.1-1.fc10.noarch
koji-utils-1.3.1-1.fc10.noarch
koji-1.3.1-1.fc10.noarch
koji-web-1.3.1-1.fc10.noarch
koji-hub-1.3.1-1.fc10.noarch

SSL certificates created after the instructions in the howto, with one
exception, since this is a single host installation I have only created 3
types of certificates. The 1st one is the signing certificate. The 2nd one
is the certificates for the host, and used by all the koji services. The 3rd
one is the user certificates.

[r...@koji ~]koji call getLoggedInUser
{'id': 1, 'krb_principal': None, 'name': 'admin', 'status': 0, 'usertype':
0} 


[r...@koji ~]koji add-user kojira
ActionNotAllowed: admin permission required

[r...@koji ~]koji add-host koji.dvos.dk x86_64
ActionNotAllowed: admin permission required

My users in the users table in postgres looks like this:
Id  namepasswordstatus  usertypekrb_principal
1   admin   0   0   
2   koji.dvos.dk0   1   

My permissions table looks like this:
Id  name
1   admin
2   build
3   repo

I am confused and don't understand what I am doing wrong, and I am willing
to post my configuration files as well.

Any help is appreciated.


To grant a permission to a user you need to insert into the user_perms 
table.  The user_id column references the id of the users table, and the 
perm_id references the id of the permissions table.  In your case, 
granting the admin user the admin permission would be accomplished 
by running:


insert into user_perms (user_id, perm_id) values (1, 1);

After that, you can grant other permissions by using the koji 
grant-permission command.


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RE: ActionNotAllowed: admin permission required

2009-05-26 Thread Tom Stage
Hi Mike, Jay and the rest of you

I have solved the problem with you kind help.

The basic problem was the user_perms table not being updated, so it was a
combo of not reading the how to right.

Thanks for your help on this.

Cheers Tom



-Original Message-
From: Mike Bonnet [mailto:mi...@redhat.com] 
Sent: 26. maj 2009 16:18
To: Tom Stage; Discussion of Fedora build system
Subject: Re: ActionNotAllowed: admin permission required

Tom Stage wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Well I have to admit that I am in the same boat as the last thread with
the
 same Subject, this config is also with SSL configured and it seems to be
ok
 and running good, I can log in to the web interface.
 
 I have Koji installed on a Fedora 10 x86_64 system, and I have followed
the
 HowTo at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji/ServerHowTo and I to cant seem
 to execute the following commands as an example:
 
 System info:
 Uname -a 
 Linux koji 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:08:10 EDT
 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
 Rpm -qa
 koji-builder-1.3.1-1.fc10.noarch
 koji-utils-1.3.1-1.fc10.noarch
 koji-1.3.1-1.fc10.noarch
 koji-web-1.3.1-1.fc10.noarch
 koji-hub-1.3.1-1.fc10.noarch
 
 SSL certificates created after the instructions in the howto, with one
 exception, since this is a single host installation I have only created 3
 types of certificates. The 1st one is the signing certificate. The 2nd one
 is the certificates for the host, and used by all the koji services. The
3rd
 one is the user certificates.
 
 [r...@koji ~]koji call getLoggedInUser
 {'id': 1, 'krb_principal': None, 'name': 'admin', 'status': 0, 'usertype':
 0} 
 
 [r...@koji ~]koji add-user kojira
 ActionNotAllowed: admin permission required
 
 [r...@koji ~]koji add-host koji.dvos.dk x86_64
 ActionNotAllowed: admin permission required
 
 My users in the users table in postgres looks like this:
 Idnamepasswordstatus  usertypekrb_principal
 1 admin   0   0   
 2 koji.dvos.dk0   1   
 
 My permissions table looks like this:
 Idname
 1 admin
 2 build
 3 repo
 
 I am confused and don't understand what I am doing wrong, and I am willing
 to post my configuration files as well.
 
 Any help is appreciated.

To grant a permission to a user you need to insert into the user_perms 
table.  The user_id column references the id of the users table, and the 
perm_id references the id of the permissions table.  In your case, 
granting the admin user the admin permission would be accomplished 
by running:

insert into user_perms (user_id, perm_id) values (1, 1);

After that, you can grant other permissions by using the koji 
grant-permission command.

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2009 09:50 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
 The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-05-26 at 17:00UTC in
 the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net.
 
 FPC works from the agenda at
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/GuidelinesTodo; there's just
 one item currently on the agenda:
 
 Phase out Buildroot -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Phase_out_buildroot_tag_%28draft%29

How about phasing out Group tag as well?

Rahul

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:35:23AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 On 05/26/2009 09:50 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
  The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-05-26 at 17:00UTC in
  the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net.
  
  FPC works from the agenda at
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/GuidelinesTodo; there's just
  one item currently on the agenda:
  
  Phase out Buildroot -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Phase_out_buildroot_tag_%28draft%29
 
 How about phasing out Group tag as well?

It seems like the Group tag is now optional in upstream RPM (since
somewhere around F-11).

I vote for also removing the %clean section.

Rich.

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Re: Anybody interested in vpnc

2009-05-26 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 09:06 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 05:29:32PM -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
  On 05/25/2009 05:07 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
  On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 03:52:37PM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote:
  is anybody interested in maintaining vpnc in Fedora and EPEL? I'd like
  to orphan it. I might stay as a comaintainer if you want.
 
  It looks like Warren Togami has jumped in there to be co-maintainer.
  If you need someone else I can help.
 
  Rich.
 
 
  wait what?  Why are you volunteering me for something I know nothing about?
 
 A simple misunderstanding - I looked at the ACLs and noticed that you
 were there already, so I assumed you'd already taken co-maint for the
 package.
 
 Tomas: If you still want me to co-maintain this package, let me know.

I'll orphan it and you can be the primary maintainer.
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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 May 2009 09:10:15 +0100, Richard wrote:

 I vote for also removing the %clean section.

Complete removal or only making rm -rf %{buildroot} the default?

In case of the former, let's also add an implicit rm -rf %{buildroot} at
start of %install. There are still packagers who don't empty the buildroot
and who don't know rpmbuild's -bi --short-circuit options.

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dependency errors while upgrading vom F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Hi,

I checked the ability to upgrade from F10 to F11 (Rawhide) directly
using yum. A couple of weeks ago, there were dependency errors with
python. These errors are not fixed until now.

In my point of view, this issue should be fixed until GA of Leonidas.

Thanks,
Uwe

==

What I have done:

[r...@alberta ~]# yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide update

I got:

- -- Finished Dependency Resolution
sos-1.8-11.fc10.noarch from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package
sos-1.8-11.fc10.noarch (installed)
7:kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libdjvulibre.so.15 is needed by package
7:kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
PyQt4-4.4.4-6.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package
PyQt4-4.4.4-6.fc10.i386 (installed)
PyQt4-4.4.4-6.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libpython2.5.so.1.0 is needed by package
PyQt4-4.4.4-6.fc10.i386 (installed)
kdeedu-marble-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libgps.so.17 is needed by package
kdeedu-marble-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
7:kdegraphics-libs-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libexiv2.so.4 is needed by package
7:kdegraphics-libs-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
7:kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libpoppler.so.3 is needed by package
7:kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
6:kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libssl.so.7 is needed by package
6:kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package
sos-1.8-11.fc10.noarch (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libdjvulibre.so.15 is needed by package
7:kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libpoppler.so.3 is needed by package
7:kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libssl.so.7 is needed by package
6:kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libpython2.5.so.1.0 is needed by package
PyQt4-4.4.4-6.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libexiv2.so.4 is needed by package
7:kdegraphics-libs-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libgps.so.17 is needed by package
kdeedu-marble-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package
PyQt4-4.4.4-6.fc10.i386 (installed)
[r...@alberta ~]#


So, I tried to use updates-testing to fix, but more errors appeared:

- -- Finished Dependency Resolution
sos-1.8-11.fc10.noarch from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package
sos-1.8-11.fc10.noarch (installed)
7:kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libdjvulibre.so.15 is needed by package
7:kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
PyQt4-4.4.4-6.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libpython2.5.so.1.0 is needed by package
PyQt4-4.4.4-6.fc10.i386 (installed)
PyQt4-4.4.4-6.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package
PyQt4-4.4.4-6.fc10.i386 (installed)
createrepo-0.9.7-7.fc10.noarch from updates-testing has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package
createrepo-0.9.7-7.fc10.noarch (updates-testing)
kdeedu-marble-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libgps.so.17 is needed by package
kdeedu-marble-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386 from updates-testing has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package
ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386 (updates-testing)
1:qt-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 from updates-testing has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libssl.so.7 is needed by package
1:qt-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 (updates-testing)
1:qt-x11-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 from updates-testing has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package
1:qt-x11-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 (updates-testing)
7:kdegraphics-libs-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libexiv2.so.4 is needed by package
7:kdegraphics-libs-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
7:kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libpoppler.so.3 is needed by package
7:kdegraphics-4.2.3-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
1:qt-x11-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 from updates-testing has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libssl.so.7 is needed by package
1:qt-x11-4.5.1-10.fc10.i386 (updates-testing)
6:kdelibs-4.2.3-3.fc10.i386 from 

Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2009 01:40 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:35:23AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 On 05/26/2009 09:50 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
 The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-05-26 at 17:00UTC in
 the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net.

 FPC works from the agenda at
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/GuidelinesTodo; there's just
 one item currently on the agenda:

 Phase out Buildroot -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Phase_out_buildroot_tag_%28draft%29

 How about phasing out Group tag as well?
 
 It seems like the Group tag is now optional in upstream RPM (since
 somewhere around F-11).

Yes but there should be packaging guidelines adding a note that you can
just drop it similar to built root. Does apt, smart and synaptic support
comps though? do we care?

Rahul

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Re: unowned files and directories

2009-05-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:46:42 +0200, Thorsten wrote:

 But I'm a bit unsure what to do with the results. Filing bugs likely
 would be huge amount of work as well as and never-ending task for a
 small gain.

http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/dircheck-remote.py

Example usage:
  ./dircheck-remote.py -r rawhide -n ^vtk
  ./dircheck-remote.py -r rawhide

 Options? Just ignore? Or will the automatic test scripts QA iirc plans
 to set up check for things like that in the future?

Different strategy. Also to raise awareness of the problem. Focus on those
unowned directories

 - which bear a risk of breaking tarball compilation
   (e.g. old unowned empty versioned API directories which confuse
tarball configure scripts, not limited to %_includedir),

 - which look like files might be misplaced
   (e.g. unowned directories in suspicious paths),

 - which look like missing subpackage dependencies
   (e.g. yum install foo-something doesn't lead to working software
since foo is not installed automatically)

 - which pile up usability crap, such as empty versioned %docdirs. [1]


[1] The latter is annoying. It breaks tab completion in /usr/share/doc
(but also makes it harder to browse documentation with graphical file
managers). Additionally, some packagers tend to use %doc in almost every
subpackage, and I'm not sure they are aware of the consequences.

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Re: Anybody interested in vpnc

2009-05-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:19:45AM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote:
 I'll orphan it and you can be the primary maintainer.

Done.

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Re: dependency errors while upgrading from F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:39:27 +0200, Uwe wrote:

 I checked the ability to upgrade from F10 to F11 (Rawhide) directly
 using yum. A couple of weeks ago, there were dependency errors with
 python. These errors are not fixed until now.

Nobody has posted the results of one of the upgradepathcheck scripts
for a long time. :(

 In my point of view, this issue should be fixed until GA of Leonidas.

What set of repositories did you use when enabling updates-testing?
In your quote I see lots of references to F10 updates-testing, but
did you also enable F11 updates and F11 updates-testing?

[Upgrading from an up-to-date F10 to F11 Rawhide is bound to fail.
Not only because of packaging bugs (F10 packages having a higher
EVR than F11 packages), but also because there is a growing number
of updates and test-updates for F11 already.]

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Nicolas Mailhot


Le Mar 26 mai 2009 10:43, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :

 It seems like the Group tag is now optional in upstream RPM (since
 somewhere around F-11).

 Yes but there should be packaging guidelines adding a note that you
 can
 just drop it similar to built root. Does apt, smart and synaptic
 support
 comps though? do we care?

I'd drop it from the font packaging spec templates at once if FPC 
FESCO oked it. Each spurious line is pollution that frightens new
packagers.

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Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-26 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 02:22:02PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
 | From: Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu
 
 | Seems frustrations are mounting:
 | On policykit and standards
 | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/polkit-devel/2009-May/000119.html
 
 [I'm an outsider.  This thread is my introduction to the whole area.
 I'm not even a KDE user.]
 
 This certainly does not look like a healthy approach to standardization
 and cooperation.
 
 - the http://cgit.freedesktop.org/PolicyKit/tree/docs/PORTING-GUIDE
   appears clearly biased towards GNOME, even though its URL and title
   suggest universality: the first substantial line talks about
   polkit-gobject-1 (I *think* that gobject means GNOME object)
 
 - in a well-constituted standards process (not a de facto standard),
   stakeholders are consulted before changes are made.  It looks
   as if KDE folks have been stakeholders and have not been allowed to
   even sign-off on the design, let alone participate in it.
 
 - for good reason, the normal output of a standardization process is a
   document, not code.  There appears to be no complete documentation.
 
 - all stakeholders ought to be treated respectfully and equitably.
   That means, for example, KDE ought not the be second to GNOME.
   More particularly, the architectures should be open-ended, allowing
   for more than KDE and GNOME.  See, for example,
   http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ZeroOneInfinityRule
 
 I admit that my reactions may be ill-founded.  Perhaps this is meant

You are attempting to create problems here which don't exist. David
has already pointed out in another mail that if apps don't want to use 
the glib based library, they can talk to DBus directly. There are native
QT bindings for DBus, and pretty much any other language can talk to
DBus too with no deps on glib / gobject.

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Re: dependency errors while upgrading from F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:17:29 +0200, Uwe wrote:

  What set of repositories did you use when enabling updates-testing?
  In your quote I see lots of references to F10 updates-testing, but
  did you also enable F11 updates and F11 updates-testing?
 
 I think, yum only enables updates-testing for F10 if I type
 
 [r...@alberta ~]# yum --disablerepo=*
 - --enablerepo=rawhide,updates-testing update
 
 How to enable the other update channels?

With a Yum-based distribution upgrade, you typically perform an upgrade in
two steps. First you update to the right fedora-release package, so
variables like $releasever used in your *.repo files expand to '11'
instead of '10'. Then you run a plain yum update, which automatically
chooses the Fedora 11 repos.

Alternatively, you hardcode the baseurls of the repos you want to upgrade
to.

[And as long as there is no F11 GA repo yet, you need to enable rawhide
manually.]

  [Upgrading from an up-to-date F10 to F11 Rawhide is bound to fail.
  Not only because of packaging bugs (F10 packages having a higher
  EVR than F11 packages), but also because there is a growing number
  of updates and test-updates for F11 already.]
  
 
 Does it meen an upgrade fron an Up-to-date F10 to F11 GA will also fail?

With Yum? Yes.

The more packages in F11 Updates, the more likely you need them in order
to replace your F10 Updates, which may be seen as newer than F11 GA. Same
applies to Test Updates.

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Re: dependency errors while upgrading from F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:43:54 +0200, Uwe wrote:

  With a Yum-based distribution upgrade, you typically perform an upgrade in
  two steps. First you update to the right fedora-release package, so
  variables like $releasever used in your *.repo files expand to '11'
  instead of '10'. Then you run a plain yum update, which automatically
  chooses the Fedora 11 repos.
 
 I know this procedure.

Then use it. ;)

 Do we have the F11 repos yet? I don't think so,
 because F11 is not GA.

F11 updates and F11 updates-testing _are_ available
F11 release Everything, however, is still in development (Rawhide).

  The more packages in F11 Updates, the more likely you need them in order
  to replace your F10 Updates, which may be seen as newer than F11 GA. Same
  applies to Test Updates.
  
 
 That will be a brake a possible option from the past. :-(

No. With Yum it has always been like that and the primary reason for
creating the old upgradecheck.py script from the Fedora Extras era.

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Panu Matilainen

On Tue, 26 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:


On 05/26/2009 01:40 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:35:23AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 05/26/2009 09:50 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:

The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-05-26 at 17:00UTC in
the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net.

FPC works from the agenda at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/GuidelinesTodo; there's just
one item currently on the agenda:

Phase out Buildroot -
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Phase_out_buildroot_tag_%28draft%29


How about phasing out Group tag as well?


It seems like the Group tag is now optional in upstream RPM (since
somewhere around F-11).


Yes but there should be packaging guidelines adding a note that you can
just drop it similar to built root. Does apt, smart and synaptic support
comps though? do we care?


Smart in GUI-mode and Synaptic currently use the Group tag to, well, group 
the packages for viewing: http://laiskiainen.org/tmp/smartpm-groups.png. 
Apt (and smartpm in cli-mode) dont care.


Without spec specified Group they all get lumped under Unspecified but 
as the group tags are already wildly inconsistent, full of typos etc... 
dunno if it's such a big loss.


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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2009 03:38 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote:

 Smart in GUI-mode and Synaptic currently use the Group tag to, well,
 group the packages for viewing:
 http://laiskiainen.org/tmp/smartpm-groups.png. 

That's great.

Apt (and smartpm in
 cli-mode) dont care.
 
 Without spec specified Group they all get lumped under Unspecified but
 as the group tags are already wildly inconsistent, full of typos etc...
 dunno if it's such a big loss.

Yes, the packaging/review guidelines only care about comps grouping and
not the Group tag. So for many packages, it is pretty arbitrary. I
guess, we can just lose both build root and group tag to reduce noise.

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Re: dependency errors while upgrading from F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Michael Schwendt schrieb:
 On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:43:54 +0200, Uwe wrote:
 
 With a Yum-based distribution upgrade, you typically perform an upgrade in
 two steps. First you update to the right fedora-release package, so
 variables like $releasever used in your *.repo files expand to '11'
 instead of '10'. Then you run a plain yum update, which automatically
 chooses the Fedora 11 repos.
 I know this procedure.
 
 Then use it. ;)

That was not the right way:

rpm -Uvh
ftp://ftp.solnet.ch/mirror/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-notes-11.0.0-2.fc11.noarch.rpm
rpm -Uvh
ftp://ftp.solnet.ch/mirror/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-11-1.noarch.rpm

[r...@alberta ~]# yum clean all
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Cleaning up Everything
Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors
[r...@alberta ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Determining fastest mirrors
YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
 Eg. /metalink/
removing mirrorlist with no valid mirrors:
//var/cache/yum/fedora/mirrorlist.txt
Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: fedora
[r...@alberta ~]#

another try:

[r...@alberta ~]# yum --enablerepo=rawhide --disablerepo=fedora update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
 Eg. /metalink/
removing mirrorlist with no valid mirrors:
//var/cache/yum/updates/mirrorlist.txt


Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates
[r...@alberta ~]#


last try:

yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide update

and back to the errors of my very 1st posting...

:-(



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Re: dependency errors while upgrading from F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:16:13 +0200, Uwe wrote:

 rpm -Uvh
 ftp://ftp.solnet.ch/mirror/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-11-1.noarch.rpm
 

And to add some trouble-shooting myself, this new fedora-release package
points to a mirrorlist URL that returns an XML file instead of the old
plain-text list of baseurls. Perhaps upgrade tools like Yum are needed to
handle it. But that doesn't prove that hardcoding the F11 repository
baseurls would not work. Especially if above you choose a local mirror
already anyway.

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Re: dependency errors while upgrading from F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Michael Schwendt schrieb:
 On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:16:13 +0200, Uwe wrote:
 
 rpm -Uvh
 ftp://ftp.solnet.ch/mirror/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-11-1.noarch.rpm

 
 And to add some trouble-shooting myself, this new fedora-release package
 points to a mirrorlist URL that returns an XML file instead of the old
 plain-text list of baseurls. Perhaps upgrade tools like Yum are needed to
 handle it. But that doesn't prove that hardcoding the F11 repository
 baseurls would not work. Especially if above you choose a local mirror
 already anyway.
 

I think, thats the point, why it would no be possible to go the way
described in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq (yet)

I will try it again after Leonidas is GA - expecting it won't work.
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Re: Conflicts not being resolved

2009-05-26 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 05/23/2009 06:37 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Conflicts
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Conflicts#Other_Uses_of_Conflicts:
 
 | As a general rule, Fedora packages must NOT contain any usage of the
 | Conflicts: field.
 
 | Keep in mind that implicit conflicts are NEVER acceptable. 
 
 | If your package conflicts with another package, then you must either
 | resolve the conflict, or mark it with Conflicts:.
 
 What happens so far is that packagers simply ignore it.
 Again I see bz tickets from Nov 2008 which have not been responded to.
 
 The page doesn't point out that missing Conflicts tags are bad.
 Implicit conflicts are not detected prior to an RPM transaction check.
 Typically, implicit conflicts cause tools like Yum to fail, leaving it
 to the user to do the head-scratching and to remove packages manually.

This seems like a great place for someone who is looking for a way to
help out Fedora to work on, closing out these bugs.

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Re: Breaking deps deliberately

2009-05-26 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 05/23/2009 11:03 AM, Braden McDaniel wrote:
 I didn't know about this until this subthread... and I asked a rather
 senior packaging person about it some months ago and didn't get this
 information.  So I think this is poorly publicized; and perhaps poorly
 positioned in the packaging guidelines.

Always possible. I'm the first to admit that the packaging guidelines
need a thorough reorganization.

The information is documented here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines#Minor_release_bumps_for_old_branches

Suggestions on improvements are always welcomed (as long as they are
constructive).

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Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-26 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 05/22/2009 03:04 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
 1: Has the flags policy, anything to do with RH becoming more prominent
 on the site?
 No problem with them becoming more prominent, they do sponsor a lot.
 If yes, say so, likewise no

No. The fact that I authored the original flag policy had more to do
with my awareness of the prior unwritten no flags policy, and nothing
at all to do with Red Hat. Red Hat Legal did offer advice as to some of
the wording, but they did not mandate it, nor did Red Hat instigate the
creation of the flag policy.

 2: Would our main Sponsor, suffer financially.
 As a result of inclusion of certain flags?

No. As Adam said, having a no flags policy would make things slightly
simpler for Red Hat to compose RHEL, but not enough to suffer any
significant financial consequence.

 3: Would the fedora project survive, if there was no main sponsor?

Thankfully, this is a problem we do not have to be concerned about for
the time being.

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Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-26 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 05/23/2009 03:45 PM, Christopher Stone wrote:
 What are the T-6 restrictions? A google search only came up with this thread.

There are 6 countries that Fedora cannot be legally exported to (as a
result of US export restrictions):

Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Sudan and Syria

These are known as the T-6 countries. No individual associated with
the Fedora project (or mirror site) should provide Fedora software to
anyone in those countries, even if they are not in the US.

Here's the full legal paragraph:

Because Fedora software contains encryption technology, Fedora software
and technical information is subject to the U.S. Export Administration
Regulations and other U.S. and foreign law, and may not be exported or
re-exported to certain countries (currently Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North
Korea, Sudan and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from
receiving U.S. exports (including those (a) on the Bureau of Industry
and Security Denied Parties List or Entity List, (b) on the Office of
Foreign Assets Control list of Specially Designated Nationals and
Blocked Persons, and (c) involved with missile technology or nuclear,
chemical or biological weapons). You may not download Fedora software or
technical information if you are located in one of these countries, or
otherwise affected by these restrictions. You may not provide Fedora
software or technical information to individuals or entities located in
one of these countries or otherwise affected by these restrictions. You
are also responsible for compliance with foreign law requirements
applicable to the import and use of Fedora software and technical
information.

Tom spot Callaway, Fedora Legal

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Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-26 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Martes 26 Mayo 2009 11:16:14 Daniel P. Berrange escribió:
 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 02:22:02PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
  | From: Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu
  |
  | Seems frustrations are mounting:
  | On policykit and standards
  | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/polkit-devel/2009-May/000119.html
 
  [I'm an outsider.  This thread is my introduction to the whole area.
  I'm not even a KDE user.]
 
  This certainly does not look like a healthy approach to standardization
  and cooperation.
 
  - the http://cgit.freedesktop.org/PolicyKit/tree/docs/PORTING-GUIDE
appears clearly biased towards GNOME, even though its URL and title
suggest universality: the first substantial line talks about
polkit-gobject-1 (I *think* that gobject means GNOME object)
 
  - in a well-constituted standards process (not a de facto standard),
stakeholders are consulted before changes are made.  It looks
as if KDE folks have been stakeholders and have not been allowed to
even sign-off on the design, let alone participate in it.
 
  - for good reason, the normal output of a standardization process is a
document, not code.  There appears to be no complete documentation.
 
  - all stakeholders ought to be treated respectfully and equitably.
That means, for example, KDE ought not the be second to GNOME.
More particularly, the architectures should be open-ended, allowing
for more than KDE and GNOME.  See, for example,
  http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ZeroOneInfinityRule
 
  I admit that my reactions may be ill-founded.  Perhaps this is meant

 You are attempting to create problems here which don't exist. David
 has already pointed out in another mail that if apps don't want to use
 the glib based library, they can talk to DBus directly. There are native
 QT bindings for DBus, and pretty much any other language can talk to
 DBus too with no deps on glib / gobject.

Seems like direct DBus communication is the only way to do it from Qt/KDE apps 
as PolKit library requires gtk_init() somewhere in code...  I've prepared 
patch for polkit-qt to the new PK1 Core API but... Or is there any other way 
to initialize glib without need for it? I'm not familiar with GTK app 
development... But library that expects gtk_init somewhere in application to 
be correctly intialized...

PK1 should be split into parts - cross-desktop backends should be on 
freedesktop, gnome specific libraries should be in gnome repository. This 
should stop confusion.

Jaroslav
 
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Re: Conflicts not being resolved

2009-05-26 Thread Seth Vidal



On Tue, 26 May 2009, Tom \spot\ Callaway wrote:



This seems like a great place for someone who is looking for a way to
help out Fedora to work on, closing out these bugs.




I wrote a script to dump out potential file conflicts. This needs to be 
dumped into the auto-qa work so we can look for  file conflicts 
w/o explicit pkg conflicts automatically.


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Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-26 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 15:37 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
 
 Seems like direct DBus communication is the only way to do it from Qt/KDE 
 apps 
 as PolKit library requires gtk_init() somewhere in code...  I've prepared 
 patch for polkit-qt to the new PK1 Core API but... Or is there any other way 
 to initialize glib without need for it? I'm not familiar with GTK app 
 development... But library that expects gtk_init somewhere in application to 
 be correctly intialized...

Calling g_type_init() should be enough; there is no direct GTK+
dependency in polkit-gobject. Even g_type_init() may be too much for KDE
apps to swallow though, so going directly to the bus is still a good
idea.

 PK1 should be split into parts - cross-desktop backends should be on 
 freedesktop, gnome specific libraries should be in gnome repository. This 
 should stop confusion.

You mean like 

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/PolicyKit
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/PolicyKit-gnome

?

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How to create header.info file

2009-05-26 Thread Pavel Lisy
Hello

I've made my repository for CentOS (3/4/5) with createrepo version
0.4.9. 

It makes these files

repodata/filelists.xml.gz
repodata/other.xml.gz
repodata/primary.xml.gz
repodata/repomd.xml

Yum is working fine but on 

RHEL 4 I've got this error from up2date

An HTTP error occurred:
URL:
http://ftp-hk.tmapy.cz/tmapy-twist/centos/4/os/i386/headers/header.info
Status Code: 404
Error Message: Not Found

How can I create this file and other files in headers directory?
There is nothing in createrepo docs about these files. 

Can anybody help me?

Pavel

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rawhide report: 20090526 changes

2009-05-26 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue May 26 06:15:03 UTC 2009

Removed package CastPodder
Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 1
Modified Packages: 0









Broken deps for ppc64
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cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc  0:6.10.1-7



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Re: How to create header.info file

2009-05-26 Thread Seth Vidal



On Tue, 26 May 2009, Pavel Lisy wrote:


Hello

I've made my repository for CentOS (3/4/5) with createrepo version
0.4.9.

It makes these files

repodata/filelists.xml.gz
repodata/other.xml.gz
repodata/primary.xml.gz
repodata/repomd.xml

Yum is working fine but on

RHEL 4 I've got this error from up2date

An HTTP error occurred:
URL:
http://ftp-hk.tmapy.cz/tmapy-twist/centos/4/os/i386/headers/header.info
Status Code: 404
Error Message: Not Found

How can I create this file and other files in headers directory?
There is nothing in createrepo docs about these files.



1. this is not a fedora-devel question.
2. You can ask on the centos lists about this

but a short answer though is - look up about yum-arch

I will not respond to any other questions  about the above on this list.

-sv

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export policy, was Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-26 Thread Paul Wouters

On Tue, 26 May 2009, Tom spot Callaway wrote:

Though I am also not a lawyer, I did look into things, being upstream
for openswan and an author of a book containing crypto, a rather crypto
heavy application and book...


There are 6 countries that Fedora cannot be legally exported to (as a
result of US export restrictions):

Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Sudan and Syria


I think technically, this restriction only applies on the export of the
software out of the US. For those outside the US, US law/doctrine does
not apply (even though the US claims it does). Rather, for most Western
countries, implementation of the Wassenaar Agreement in local law applies,
where some countries have extended the export restrictios as set forth in
the Wassenaar Agreement. In Europe, there is also the European Union
Dual-Use Export laws.


These are known as the T-6 countries. No individual associated with
the Fedora project (or mirror site) should provide Fedora software to
anyone in those countries, even if they are not in the US.


This is again US doctrine. It becomes even stranger as in my case, Fedora
imports openswan from The Netherlands, and then tells me I could not obtain
my own GPL licensed code to do what is legal within my country? Though in
this case, there is a large overlap of implementation of the Wassenaar
Agreement.


Because Fedora software contains encryption technology, Fedora software
and technical information is subject to the U.S. Export Administration
Regulations and other U.S. and foreign law, and may not be exported or
re-exported to certain countries (currently Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North
Korea, Sudan and Syria)


See above. Note that the Wassenaar Agreement excludes software that is
in the public domain, eg free/open source software.


or to persons or entities prohibited from
receiving U.S. exports (including those (a) on the Bureau of Industry
and Security Denied Parties List or Entity List, (b) on the Office of
Foreign Assets Control list of Specially Designated Nationals and
Blocked Persons, and (c) involved with missile technology or nuclear,
chemical or biological weapons).


This is technically a violation of GPL, and could mean that
anyone distributing Fedora with those restrictions has lost their rights
to use and/or distribute the GPL software contained within Fedora.


You may not download Fedora software or
technical information if you are located in one of these countries, or
otherwise affected by these restrictions. You may not provide Fedora
software or technical information to individuals or entities located in
one of these countries or otherwise affected by these restrictions. You
are also responsible for compliance with foreign law requirements
applicable to the import and use of Fedora software and technical
information.


This is just boilerplate for more US law applies to non-US citizens
because we say so doctrine. Though it does not apply to non-US citizens,
there is a risk. I formulated it like this in the Openswan book:

Unrecognised international claims

Certain countries claim jurisdiction even outside their national
borders. Most notably, France claims the right to “regulate information
on foreign servers”, Italy assumes jurisdiction over sites directed to
an Italian audience and the US reserve the right to prosecute offenses
against American interests according to US law, irrespective of where
they take place.

You may want to consider the possibility that you can be sued or
prosecuted in another country. Additionally, if you are physically in
a country other than the Netherlands when you download our software,
you are probably subject to that country's jurisdiction anyway. And if
your download happens to pass a router under US control (say in Guam),
the US might make additional claims to rights for restriction of your
packets or even your person.


Note that this text was written a few years ago. For an updated situation,
one should probably consult their local lawyer, please the updates from
http://www.wassenaar.org/

Paul

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thinkpad and acpi events

2009-05-26 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi all,

I encounter a little weirdness with the recent (aka
2.6.29.3-155.fc11.i586) kernel on my R61 Thinkpad: Neither Suspend on
lid-shut nor reaction on power button work. It seems to me that there a
no events registered by the driver. Does anyone else see that? 
Is there a way to log that events?

regards

christoph


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Re: unowned files and directories

2009-05-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info wrote:

 (¹) the list also leads to question like why are there /.dbus and
 /.pulse?

My guess is some code in the installation process running as root with
$HOME set to / is trying to connect to the DBus session bus.  For
compatibility with some unfortunate scenarios libdbus will attempt to
auto-launch a bus using dbus-launch which will then create ~/.dbus.

I assume pulse is similar (ideally pulse uses dbus, then we only have
this bug once, but that's another discussion).  Something trying to
talk to the session bus sound familiar to anyone working on the
installer?  If we can set $HOME to /root that would sidestep most of
the issues, alternatively in libdbus we could avoid autolaunching for
root, since it should never be needed.

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compat c++

2009-05-26 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi,

I was just wondering, if there is a compat c++ compiler package (or
mode) available in fedora. The issue I encountered was that I got a lot
of compiler errors because of strdup() malloc() etc. usages in c++ files
without proper #include legacy stuff. 
I am not a C++ expert, but I guess that there was a default behavior
change between g++ 3 and 4. 
What I did was patching that package to get those #includes but as it
contains a c++ code generator I also had to patch that. Although it
seems to compile now, I still get zillions of DO NOT CAST char* TO
string YOU FOOL warnings (wasn't there an option to get rid of them
too?). 
Any kind of compat mode would make things alot easier (besides bringing
the developers to write propert C++).

regards 

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:15 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
 
 Can we please not remove the Group tag, it is actually quite usefull.
 What we need to remove / loose is comps. Having all this info in a
 centralized database is stupid. The spec files should tell which
 group(s) the package belongs in. So that when one adds a new package,
 this gets done right more or less automatically (and is part of the
 review).

Defining groups in the package is broken because different consumers of
of the packages may wish to group those packages in different ways.
When you define it in the package, you have to rebuild the package just
to change how they're grouped.  That's one of the big reasons why
grouping should be done outside of the packages.

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius

Jesse Keating wrote:

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:15 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:

Can we please not remove the Group tag, it is actually quite usefull.
What we need to remove / loose is comps. Having all this info in a
centralized database is stupid. The spec files should tell which
group(s) the package belongs in. So that when one adds a new package,
this gets done right more or less automatically (and is part of the
review).
ACK. Instead of abandoning rpm-Groups, it should be strengthened and 
comps be made strictly optional.



Defining groups in the package is broken because different consumers of
of the packages may wish to group those packages in different ways.
When you define it in the package, you have to rebuild the package just
to change how they're grouped.  That's one of the big reasons why
grouping should be done outside of the packages.


Comps and Groups are addressing completely different issues.



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Re: export policy, was Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2009 07:39 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:

 
 This is technically a violation of GPL, and could mean that
 anyone distributing Fedora with those restrictions has lost their rights
 to use and/or distribute the GPL software contained within Fedora.here
 they take place.

FSF doesn't seem to think so

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeSoftwareAnalysis/FSF

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Re: thinkpad and acpi events

2009-05-26 Thread Nikolay Vladimirov
2009/5/26 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de:
 Hi all,

 I encounter a little weirdness with the recent (aka
 2.6.29.3-155.fc11.i586) kernel on my R61 Thinkpad: Neither Suspend on
 lid-shut nor reaction on power button work. It seems to me that there a
 no events registered by the driver. Does anyone else see that?
 Is there a way to log that events?

 regards

 christoph

I noticed something similar on a T41, I think that the
thinkpad_acpi(or whatever it's name was)
module wasn't loaded. Didn't have the time to look in to it. Can you
check the loaded modules?


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Re: export policy, was Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-26 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 05/26/2009 12:13 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote:
 The penalties for export violation are steep and
 serious, which is why all Fedora contributors are required to abide by
 the export policies.
 
 Maybe this should be mentioned in the CLA ? We (Fedora contributors)
 have to sign it. Specifying it there would make it more widely known,
 and could provide a way to make contributors respect it (as they
 agreed and signed the CLA).
 
 Unless I miss it, it is not mentioned:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/CLA

Nope. We'll definitely take that into consideration as we rework the CLA.

Historically, we've only highlighted the export details onto people who
are likely to redistribute Fedora as part of their normal activities
(FreeMedia, Mirrors), but there is no reason we can't make it clear to
everyone who signs the CLA.

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Re: rawhide report: 20090523 changes

2009-05-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) said: 
 Yet another insecure temporary file vulnerability. Why do we still not
 polyinstantiate /tmp by default? We're wasting lots of time on security
 measures which keep breaking apps such as SELinux, but simple things like
 polyinstantiation are still not used, why? This code would be perfectly
 safe if polyinstantiation was mandatory. Why are we stuck in the 1970s?

... send patches? It's techncially feasible, but no one's done the
legwork to integrate it fully yet. (xguest goes a bit beyond what
we'd want by default.)

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Re: List of packages including country flags

2009-05-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Johan Cwiklinski (maili...@x-tnd.be) said: 
 Considering this, I'm not sure simply removing flags for gcompris is the
 thing to do.
 
 Any thoughts ?

It's the right thing from a UI standpoint. That dialog is horrible.

Here's an example, when started in es_MX.UTF-8:

http://notting.fedorapeople.org/gcompris.png

1) I started it in the locale of the largest Spanish-speaking population
on the globe. So I get a (broken) flag image for an entirely different
country?

2) Say I'm a child who can't read the language but is supposed to pick
the language via flag. Not only is it not using a flag that I'd recognize
in my locale, how am I even supposed to know that it's a language
configuration area? There's no other information other than a name of the
language (or 'your system default', which also isn't going to make
a lot of sense to most kids)

3) There's also entries there to change the timing of the game, the skin,
whether to have music or sound effects, etc. None of these have iconographic
representations to make them usable by the pre-literate set. 

So yes, long term, the flags should be removed. Ideally, upstream would
be convinced to do it.

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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Peter Lemenkov (lemen...@gmail.com) said: 
 Subj. As Debian folks did years ago. Such branching will be done very
 easy technically.

Because all the builds and composition is done in the US, and the trademarks
are held by a US entity.

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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2009/5/26 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com:

 Subj. As Debian folks did years ago. Such branching will be done very
 easy technically.

 Because all the builds and composition is done in the US, and the trademarks
 are held by a US entity.

Not a serious reason. Why not to relocate then in Europe?


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Re: rawhide report: 20090523 changes

2009-05-26 Thread Till Maas
On Di Mai 26 2009, Bill Nottingham wrote:
 Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) said:
  Yet another insecure temporary file vulnerability. Why do we still not
  polyinstantiate /tmp by default? We're wasting lots of time on security
  measures which keep breaking apps such as SELinux, but simple things like
  polyinstantiation are still not used, why? This code would be perfectly
  safe if polyinstantiation was mandatory. Why are we stuck in the 1970s?

 ... send patches? It's techncially feasible, but no one's done the
 legwork to integrate it fully yet.

It is already done on the Fedorapeople server:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/FedoraPeopleConfig#polyinstantiated_tempdirs

Regards
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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 21:10 +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
 2009/5/26 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com:
 
  Subj. As Debian folks did years ago. Such branching will be done very
  easy technically.
 
  Because all the builds and composition is done in the US, and the trademarks
  are held by a US entity.
 
 Not a serious reason. Why not to relocate then in Europe?
 
 
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Oh, Europe won't help much, there are just as many silly laws there as
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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Peter Lemenkov (lemen...@gmail.com) said: 
  Subj. As Debian folks did years ago. Such branching will be done very
  easy technically.
 
  Because all the builds and composition is done in the US, and the trademarks
  are held by a US entity.
 
 Not a serious reason. Why not to relocate then in Europe?

... what exactly are you trying to accomplish?

Make it legal to ship MP3 code? Sorry, those are patented in Europe as well.

Make it so we can ship to various T-6 countries? I'm sure many European
countries have their own lists as well.

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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 05/26/2009 01:25 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 21:10 +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
 2009/5/26 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com:

 Subj. As Debian folks did years ago. Such branching will be done very
 easy technically.
 Because all the builds and composition is done in the US, and the trademarks
 are held by a US entity.
 Not a serious reason. Why not to relocate then in Europe?


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 Find us a Company in Europe that is not based in the US that is willing
 to fund with people and money as much as Red Hat is doing now.
 
 Oh, Europe won't help much, there are just as many silly laws there as
 there are in the US.
 
 

Is there a reason that an interested party (in a locale where such
export is legal) couldn't just create a custom spin on their own (and
using their own build system) to create a Fedora-T6 spin (or for
trademark reasons, rebrand it)? I can see this being a perfectly good
premise for setting up a SIG...

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 J == Jason L Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu writes:

J The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-05-26 at 17:00UTC
J in the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net.

Due to lack of quorum, this meeting is postponed to Tuesday,
2009-06-02.  I will send an updated agenda as the meeting approaches.

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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Weyl wrote:
 A US corporation is subject to US law no matter where it operates.  Sounds
 serious to me :)

I think the idea is to found a Fedora foundation outside of the US to own
Fedora instead of RH. The reason given for not creating a foundation was
that US tax laws are problematic, creating it outside of the US would mean
favorable tax laws could be chosen as well. That said, RH may still get
into trouble for contributory infringement, and with a non-US foundation,
RH may even get accused of tax evasion, so I'm not that surprised they
aren't thrilled by the idea.

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Re: rawhide report: 20090523 changes

2009-05-26 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 19:12 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
 On Di Mai 26 2009, Bill Nottingham wrote:
  Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) said:
   Yet another insecure temporary file vulnerability. Why do we still not
   polyinstantiate /tmp by default? We're wasting lots of time on security
   measures which keep breaking apps such as SELinux, but simple things like
   polyinstantiation are still not used, why? This code would be perfectly
   safe if polyinstantiation was mandatory. Why are we stuck in the 1970s?
 
  ... send patches? It's techncially feasible, but no one's done the
  legwork to integrate it fully yet.
 
 It is already done on the Fedorapeople server:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/FedoraPeopleConfig#polyinstantiated_tempdirs

Hey, nice.

That should really be an F12 feature.

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Re: dependency errors while upgrading vom F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 10:39 +0200, Uwe Kiewel wrote:
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 Hi,
 
 I checked the ability to upgrade from F10 to F11 (Rawhide) directly
 using yum. A couple of weeks ago, there were dependency errors with
 python. These errors are not fixed until now.
 
 In my point of view, this issue should be fixed until GA of Leonidas.

Others have explained what you should do to test this properly, but to
address your final point: QA's stance on this is that the only supported
upgrade methods are via the install images or preupgrade. Upgrade via
yum has the status not explicitly supported but may well work. We
don't consider issues which would cause upgrading from release to
release via yum to be blockers, but issues which would cause upgrading
via preupgrade to fail usually would be.
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Re: dependency errors while upgrading from F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 May 2009 19:32:31 +0200, Kevin wrote:

 Michael Schwendt wrote:
  [And as long as there is no F11 GA repo yet, you need to enable rawhide
  manually.]
 
 Actually no, as the mirrorlists redirect you automatically.

Well, great, but whatever very went wrong for Uwe (the OP), his Yum
couldn't read the new XML mirrorlist and therefore couldn't construct a
valid baseurl for fedora and other repos.

 YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
  Eg. /metalink/
 removing mirrorlist with no valid mirrors:
 //var/cache/yum/fedora/mirrorlist.txt
 Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: fedora

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Re: export policy, was Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com said:
 Historically, we've only highlighted the export details onto people who
 are likely to redistribute Fedora as part of their normal activities
 (FreeMedia, Mirrors), but there is no reason we can't make it clear to
 everyone who signs the CLA.

IIRC mirrors are not required to sign the CLA (I did, but that was
because I was working towards being a packager as well).
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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 13:29 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
 Peter Lemenkov (lemen...@gmail.com) said: 
   Subj. As Debian folks did years ago. Such branching will be done very
   easy technically.
  
   Because all the builds and composition is done in the US, and the 
   trademarks
   are held by a US entity.
  
  Not a serious reason. Why not to relocate then in Europe?
 
 ... what exactly are you trying to accomplish?

...that isn't achieved, in practical terms, just as well by the
existence of RPMFusion?
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Re: dependency errors while upgrading from F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Seth Vidal



On Tue, 26 May 2009, Michael Schwendt wrote:


On Tue, 26 May 2009 19:32:31 +0200, Kevin wrote:


Michael Schwendt wrote:

[And as long as there is no F11 GA repo yet, you need to enable rawhide
manually.]


Actually no, as the mirrorlists redirect you automatically.


Well, great, but whatever very went wrong for Uwe (the OP), his Yum
couldn't read the new XML mirrorlist and therefore couldn't construct a
valid baseurl for fedora and other repos.



From f10's yum? Can I get a yum version number for what he's running? I 

think F10 GA had 3.2.20 in it..
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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Paul Wouters

On Tue, 26 May 2009, Stephen Gallagher wrote:


Find us a Company in Europe that is not based in the US that is willing
to fund with people and money as much as Red Hat is doing now.

Oh, Europe won't help much, there are just as many silly laws there as
there are in the US.


1) Your packets will still flow through the US anyway. 
2) The US claim jurisdiction even outside their national borders and

   reserve the right to prosecute offenses against American interests
   according to US law, irrespective of where they take place.

In other words, you could be extradited even if the offense would not
actually be an offense in your country. For example, Dutch people have
been extradited for selling drugs to US citizens in The Netherlands,
even though marihuana is legal. (well, its complicated)

Also, you could never set foot in the US again without getting arrested,
and most of us don't think those T-6 countries are worh that.


Is there a reason that an interested party (in a locale where such
export is legal) couldn't just create a custom spin on their own (and
using their own build system) to create a Fedora-T6 spin (or for
trademark reasons, rebrand it)? I can see this being a perfectly good
premise for setting up a SIG...


respin what? remove the crypto? Try removing nss, openssl, gnutls and
kerberos and see what's left of your system. Not much :P
And who would want it? Surely not the T6 countries :P

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Re: export policy, was Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-26 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 05/26/2009 02:39 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
 Once upon a time, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com said:
 Historically, we've only highlighted the export details onto people who
 are likely to redistribute Fedora as part of their normal activities
 (FreeMedia, Mirrors), but there is no reason we can't make it clear to
 everyone who signs the CLA.
 
 IIRC mirrors are not required to sign the CLA (I did, but that was
 because I was working towards being a packager as well).

Yes, but they are presented with the export restrictions.

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Removing %clean (Was Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting)

2009-05-26 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 05/26/2009 04:10 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 I vote for also removing the %clean section.

So, looking at this objectively, here are the technical problems:

* We're defining a BuildRoot in the spec, but that definition is no
longer used (Fedora 10 or higher), because rpm now automagically sets it
for us.
* We're typing rm -rf %{buildroot} multiple times in every single Fedora
specfile. We want to invoke it twice:
 - As the very first operation of the %install scriptlet
 - As the very first operation of the %clean scriptlet

The concerns around removing the BuildRoot from the spec is that if that
spec is taken to an older system, the spec would either
 * Not work
 * Set the BuildRoot to / and cause massive system destruction

The good news is that for all the Fedora targets that we care about, if
BuildRoot is unset, it is just unset. It never gets set to / on anything
we care about (including RHEL 4 and 5, I checked).
And I really don't think we need to care about anything older than RHEL
4 (roughly equivalent to Fedora 6). A comment in the packaging
guidelines should be sufficient, so simply dropping the unnecessary
BuildRoot definition as soon as Fedora 9 is EOL seems like a sane course
of action.

The %install scriptlet case is reasonably simple to solve with
redhat-rpm-config's customized macros file, simply add:

%__spec_install_pre %{___build_pre}\
[ $RPM_BUILD_ROOT != / ]  rm -rf ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}\
mkdir -p `dirname $RPM_BUILD_ROOT`\
mkdir $RPM_BUILD_ROOT\
%{nil}

This ensures that every time %install is invoked in a spec file, it
checks that buildroot isn't / (which, it should never ever be, but given
the past history, doesn't hurt to check), then deletes it. Next, it
makes the basedir of $RPM_BUILD_ROOT, in case that doesn't exist, then
makes the buildroot for us, saving additional pain in some Fedora spec
files where the make install process is either too dumb to do this for
us (or non-existant).

The %clean scriptlet case is harder. Lets get the easy case out of the
way, removing the obligatory rm -rf %{buildroot} invocation:

%__spec_clean_pre %{___build_pre}\
[ $RPM_BUILD_ROOT != / ]  rm -rf ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}\
%{nil}

With that, every time %clean is invoked in a spec file, it checks that
buildroot isn't /, and then deletes it if it is not.

However, that doesn't really resolve the deeper desire, which is as
Richard points out, is to remove the need to explicitly state the %clean
section at all. If we need to overload it beyond its defaults, we should
be able to invoke it manually and append to it, but if it is not set, it
should be invoked automagically.

RPM doesn't act this way. For all scriptlets, their absence does not
result in automatic invocation (there is no idea of always executed
default scriptlets in a spec), but instead is how they are omitted. I
can certainly see valid use cases where a package would not want %clean
to be invoked. It might be possible to change RPM's behavior to
introduce a disabler mechanism for default always executed scriptlets:

pseudocode
%disable %check
/pseudocode

This would be a significant behavior change for RPM, and not something
we could do with distribution specific macro tweaks. It would also break
backwards compatibility with older RPM spec files, which has
traditionally been avoided.

*

So, given those facts, and assuming that RPM isn't changing its
behaviors anytime soon, we can make macro changes in redhat-rpm-config
and change from this:

BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
...

%install
rm -rf %{buildroot}
make DESTDIR=%{buildroot} install
...

%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot}
...

TO:

...
%install
make DESTDIR=%{buildroot} install
...
%clean
...

Is anyone opposed to that?

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Re: Removing %clean (Was Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting)

2009-05-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 03:02:47PM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
 Is anyone opposed to that?

Sounds like a very reasonable proposal.

I'll note that coughDebian/cough packages include a minimum
compatible standards (version) number.  The RPM equivalent would I
suppose be something like:

  Min-RPM: 4.4

RPM would check this and refuse to run if its version number was less
than this, and of course older versions of RPM would fail completely
when they see this header[1].

'Course we'd have to educate people not to just remove the header or
diddle around with the version number at random 'until it works'.
Which maybe makes the proposal not completely idiot proof.

Rich.

[1] Or do they ..?  I checked and they give this error:
error: line 7: Unknown tag: Min-RPM:1.1

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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Frank Murphy

Bill Nottingham wrote:
Peter Lemenkov (lemen...@gmail.com) said: 
  
... what exactly are you trying to accomplish?


Make it legal to ship MP3 code? Sorry, those are patented in Europe as well.

  

Patents are *currently* illegal in Europe, (though they may be granted).
The patents offices being self-funding and all that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_patents_under_the_European_Patent_Convention
Article 52

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Re: Removing %clean

2009-05-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 TC == Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com writes:

TC Is anyone opposed to that?

It's hard to oppose anything that frees us from carrying around all of
this useless crap in every specfile.  If we ever want our packaging to
be considered sane, we have to make progress towards getting rid of
stuff we don't really need and dumping the inexplicable random stuff
that just gets included verbatim in every specfile without most folks
understanding why it's there.

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Re: Removing %clean

2009-05-26 Thread Björn Persson
Tom spot Callaway wrote:
     mkdir -p `dirname $RPM_BUILD_ROOT`\
     mkdir $RPM_BUILD_ROOT\

Is that somehow better than just «mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT»? Just curious.

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Re: dependency errors while upgrading vom F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 21:17 +0200, Uwe Kiewel wrote:

  We don't consider issues which would cause upgrading from release to
  release via yum to be blockers, but issues which would cause upgrading
  via preupgrade to fail usually would be.
 
 So, I have to google about preupgrade. It's the first time I hear about.
 I did the upgrade via yum since F5 successfuly...

Sure. As I said, practically speaking, it's likely to work in many
cases. It's just that if you talk to the people most involved in
implementing it (Seth) and testing it (Will) they will tell you that
doing live upgrades via yum can't really ever be 100% safe for various
reasons, but preupgrade can get very close and is useful in all the same
cases. So their position is, we support preupgrade, we don't support
yum. If yum works, great, if it doesn't, you can bug people to fix
whatever it stopping it working, but it's not 'required' by any policy
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Dead package notice: freetype1

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Jackson
freetype1 is gone from F12.  Nobody's currently using it, and more
importantly nobody ought to be, anywhere, ever.

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Re: dependency errors while upgrading vom F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-26 Thread Seth Vidal



On Tue, 26 May 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:


On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 21:17 +0200, Uwe Kiewel wrote:


We don't consider issues which would cause upgrading from release to
release via yum to be blockers, but issues which would cause upgrading
via preupgrade to fail usually would be.


So, I have to google about preupgrade. It's the first time I hear about.
I did the upgrade via yum since F5 successfuly...


Sure. As I said, practically speaking, it's likely to work in many
cases. It's just that if you talk to the people most involved in
implementing it (Seth) and testing it (Will) they will tell you that


(Will has done most of the implementing in the last MANY releases of 
preupgrade)



doing live upgrades via yum can't really ever be 100% safe for various
reasons, but preupgrade can get very close and is useful in all the same
cases. So their position is, we support preupgrade, we don't support
yum. If yum works, great, if it doesn't, you can bug people to fix
whatever it stopping it working, but it's not 'required' by any policy
or guideline.


The biggest problem you are likely to run into with a yum-based upgrade is 
situations where updating something takes out the foundation on which yum 
is running.


The fontconfig bug comes to mind.

If you want to run yum quasi-safely run it from a terminal, in screen.

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Re: Removing %clean

2009-05-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) said: 
 On Di Mai 26 2009, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
  On 05/26/2009 04:10 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 
   * Set the BuildRoot to / and cause massive system destruction
 
 What about setting BuildRoot to /home or /etc, this would case similiar 
 massive system destruction?

Well, also only if you're building as root. Which you shouldn't do
anyways.

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Re: thinkpad and acpi events

2009-05-26 Thread Christoph Höger

[choe...@choeger6 ~]$ lsmod | grep think
thinkpad_acpi  53944  0 
hwmon   2148  1 thinkpad_acpi

Seems like it's there.


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Re: Removing %clean

2009-05-26 Thread Till Maas
On Di Mai 26 2009, Björn Persson wrote:
 Tom spot Callaway wrote:
  mkdir -p `dirname $RPM_BUILD_ROOT`\
  mkdir $RPM_BUILD_ROOT\

 Is that somehow better than just «mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT»? Just
 curious.

It prevents a race condition in case that $(dirname $RPM_BUILD_ROOT) already 
exists or if all directories in the path to this directory are only writable 
by trustworthy users. In the default configuration, this was the /var/tmp 
directory, where every user could create a directory, make it writable for 
others and sneak content into the final rpm. Here is an explation, why 'mkdir 
-p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT' is vulnerable:

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-packaging/2007-02/msg5.html

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:29:31PM +, Matej Cepl wrote:
 Hans de Goede, Tue, 26 May 2009 13:15:23 +0200:
  Can we please not remove the Group tag, it is actually quite usefull.
  What we need to remove / loose is comps. Having all this info in a
  centralized database is stupid. The spec files should tell which
  group(s) the package belongs in. So that when one adds a new package,
  this gets done right more or less automatically (and is part of the
  review).
 
 Hear, hear!!! And add Suggests:/Recommends: (which is the other part of 
 comps).
 
 +1000

+1001 ...

I've just been involved with submitting a package for febootstrap to
Debian [yay, build Fedora images on Debian!], and I'm reminded yet
again what a good idea 'Suggests/Recommends' are.  I can Suggest
packages like 'filelight' for measuring the effects of image
minimization, without making it a proper dependency and consequently
pulling in the whole of KDE.

Rich.

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 22:34 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:29:31PM +, Matej Cepl wrote:
  Hans de Goede, Tue, 26 May 2009 13:15:23 +0200:
   Can we please not remove the Group tag, it is actually quite usefull.
   What we need to remove / loose is comps. Having all this info in a
   centralized database is stupid. The spec files should tell which
   group(s) the package belongs in. So that when one adds a new package,
   this gets done right more or less automatically (and is part of the
   review).
  
  Hear, hear!!! And add Suggests:/Recommends: (which is the other part of 
  comps).
  
  +1000
 
 +1001 ...
 
 I've just been involved with submitting a package for febootstrap to
 Debian [yay, build Fedora images on Debian!], and I'm reminded yet
 again what a good idea 'Suggests/Recommends' are.  I can Suggest
 packages like 'filelight' for measuring the effects of image
 minimization, without making it a proper dependency and consequently
 pulling in the whole of KDE.

Indeed - Mandriva's had Suggests for a year or two now, and I found it
extremely convenient in several packages I maintain(ed). Isn't it going
into upstream RPM soon, or in there already? I had this idea that it
was.

We'd likely still need comps in some form, though. MDV has Suggests and
enforces Group tags, and still uses something similar to comps for
fine-tuning ISO builds.
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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-26 Thread Tom Lane
Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com writes:
 Jesse Keating, Tue, 26 May 2009 10:25:36 -0700:
 Oh, Europe won't help much, there are just as many silly laws there as
 there are in the US.

 Better is some special place in Europe  thinking ... what about Isle 
 of Man, it has some exceptions from many laws ... err, we wouldn't be 
 first Linux distro headquatered there :)

Unless everyone working on Fedora *moves* to the Isle of Man (and
obtains citizenship there), I don't think this sort of maneuver
keeps us out of trouble anyway.  Realistically we all have to worry
about the laws of wherever we live.  So as long as a significant
fraction of Fedora contributors are in $country, $country laws will
matter for Fedora.  (Repeat above statement for a rather long list
of $country.)

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Re: export policy, was Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-26 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com

| On 05/26/2009 10:09 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
|  See above. Note that the Wassenaar Agreement excludes software that is
|  in the public domain, eg free/open source software.
| 
| This is not correct. Public Domain has a very specific legal meaning,
| and 99% of FOSS does _not_ meet it. Public Domain is when the copyright
| holder has explicitly abandoned his/her/its copyright on the work and
| placed it into the Public Domain. (Note: In some countries, such as
| Germany, this is impossible)

Tom is right about the meaning of public domain in US law.  This is
not the meaning in the Wassenaar Agreement.

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-26 Thread Iain Arnell
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Tim Lauridsen
tim.laurid...@googlemail.com wrote:

 soft-deps (Suggests/Recommends) is really hard to handle at the depsolver
 level. A depsolver need to now the hard ones, not stuff like 'it would look
 very nice to have pink bracelet to my little pony'. It is hard to make good
 decisions based on that, a asking the user every time is not a good solution
 IMO. You will need to take a popquiz every time you what to install a
 package.
 I can see that the information can be useful at a high level gui or in some
 kind of appstore. People there have bought 'foo' have also bought 'bar'. But
 at the lowlevel like rpm/yum is not very useful, because we don't have the
 needed infomation to make a good decision.

I wouldn't think it's that hard to implement.  When installing a new
package, simply treat Suggests as Requires; when removing a package
just ignore Suggests completely.  Only upgrading adds a little
complexity - if new version Suggests something that the old version
doesn't, treat it as Requires (so that I get new optional pony
accessories automatically), otherwise ignore it (so that I can throw
away that optional pink bracelet and not have it come back every time
I update).

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[Bug 477436] [padauk-fonts] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #13 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-05-26 
02:29:56 EDT ---
APPROVED.

You can do the administrative bits in

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrade_paths_%E2%80%94_renaming_or_splitting_packages#Source_package_naming_changes

now

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[Bug 458430] Review Request: lcdf-typetools - Tools for manipulating OpenType and PostScript fonts

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #12 from Parag pnem...@redhat.com  2009-05-26 02:56:32 EDT ---
If no response received in next 15 days, I will close this review.

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[Bug 502565] New: CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora 
rawhide]

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   Summary: CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1
vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
   URL: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/TrackingBugs
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Keywords: Security
  Severity: medium
  Priority: medium
 Component: freetype1
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 bug #484437: CVE-2006-1861 freetype: multiple integer overflow vulnerabilities
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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||484437(CVE-2006-1861),
   ||240200(CVE-2007-2754)




--- Comment #1 from Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com  2009-05-26 04:09:30 EDT ---
These old issues were previously fixed in FT2, but parts apply to FT1 as well. 
The fixes were included in RHEL freetype packages update (which contain both
FT1 and FT2 on RHEL-2.1 - RHEL-4):

  http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0329.html

All current Fedora branches should contain same FT1 version with identical
patches, so this should apply to all.

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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]

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--- Comment #3 from Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com  2009-05-26 04:16:20 EDT ---
Created an attachment (id=345397)
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FT1 CVE-2007-2754 patch as used in RHSA

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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]

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--- Comment #2 from Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com  2009-05-26 04:15:45 EDT ---
Created an attachment (id=345396)
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[Bug 502577] CVE-2009-0946 freetype: multiple integer overflows

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Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||491384(CVE-2009-0946)




--- Comment #1 from Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com  2009-05-26 05:06:24 EDT ---
As mentioned in the parent bug, not yet fixed in any upstream release.  Should
affect all current Fedora versions F9 - F12.

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[Bug 502577] New: CVE-2009-0946 freetype: multiple integer overflows

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   Summary: CVE-2009-0946 freetype: multiple integer overflows
   Product: Fedora
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OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Keywords: Security
  Severity: medium
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[Bug 502582] New: CVE-2009-1194 pango: pango_glyph_string_set_size integer overflow

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   Summary: CVE-2009-1194 pango: pango_glyph_string_set_size
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Status: NEW
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  Severity: high
  Priority: high
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[Bug 502582] CVE-2009-1194 pango: pango_glyph_string_set_size integer overflow

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||496887(CVE-2009-1194)




--- Comment #1 from Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com  2009-05-26 05:29:34 EDT ---
F11 / F12 are already updated to fixed upstream version (1.24+), F9 and F10 are
affected.

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[Bug 493479] Review Request: woodardworks-laconic-fonts - An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Flag|needinfo?(tcall...@redhat.c |
   |om) |




--- Comment #2 from Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com  2009-05-26 
10:51:42 EDT ---
New Spec URL:
http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/review/new/woodardworks-laconic-fonts.spec
New SRPM URL:
http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/review/new/woodardworks-laconic-fonts-001.001-2.fc11.src.rpm

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[Bug 473551] Fix dejavu-* dependencies

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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Jarod Wilson jwil...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #8 from Jarod Wilson jwil...@redhat.com  2009-05-26 12:02:32 EDT 
---
Fixed yet again for the font package name dependency of the week.
rrdtool-1.3.8-2 should get spit out of the build system shortly.

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[Bug 493479] Review Request: woodardworks-laconic-fonts - An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family

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--- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-05-26 
14:46:37 EDT ---
Created an attachment (id=345498)
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laconic shadow fontconfig rules

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rpms/freetype1/devel dead.package, NONE, 1.1 freetype-1.3.1-1.4pre.patch, 1.1, NONE freetype-1.4-disable-ft1-bci.patch, 1.1, NONE freetype-1.4pre-CVE-2008-1808.patch, 1.1, NONE freetype1.spec, 1.6, NO

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Jackson
Author: ajax

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/freetype1/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv25451

Added Files:
dead.package 
Removed Files:
freetype-1.3.1-1.4pre.patch freetype-1.4-disable-ft1-bci.patch 
freetype-1.4pre-CVE-2008-1808.patch freetype1.spec sources 
Log Message:
Unused in Fedora, and unmaintained upstream.



--- NEW FILE dead.package ---
Unused in Fedora, and unmaintained upstream.


--- freetype-1.3.1-1.4pre.patch DELETED ---


--- freetype-1.4-disable-ft1-bci.patch DELETED ---


--- freetype-1.4pre-CVE-2008-1808.patch DELETED ---


--- freetype1.spec DELETED ---


--- sources DELETED ---

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rpms/freetype1/F-11 freetype1.spec,1.6,1.7

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Jackson
Author: ajax

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/freetype1/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv29325

Modified Files:
freetype1.spec 
Log Message:
* Tue May 26 2009 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 1.4-0.8.pre
- cve-2006-1861.patch, cve-2007-2754.patch: Port of freetype2 fixes. (#502565)



Index: freetype1.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/freetype1/F-11/freetype1.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.6
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -p -r1.6 -r1.7
--- freetype1.spec  24 Feb 2009 18:30:12 -  1.6
+++ freetype1.spec  26 May 2009 20:28:24 -  1.7
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 
 Name:   freetype1
 Version:1.4
-Release:0.7.pre%{?dist}
+Release:0.8.pre%{?dist}
 Summary:Free TrueType font rendering engine, compatibility version
 Group:  System Environment/Libraries
 License:FTL
@@ -15,6 +15,9 @@ Source: http://downloads.sourcef
 Patch0: freetype-1.3.1-1.4pre.patch
 Patch1: freetype-1.4-disable-ft1-bci.patch
 Patch2: freetype-1.4pre-CVE-2008-1808.patch
+Patch3:cve-2006-1861.patch
+Patch4:cve-2007-2754.patch
+
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildRequires:  zlib-devel libXt-devel gettext
 
@@ -61,6 +64,8 @@ developing applications that use %{name}
 %endif
 
 %patch2 -p1
+%patch3 -p1
+%patch4 -p1
 
 iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 docs/i18n.txt  docs/i18n.txt.tmp
 touch -r docs/i18n.txt docs/i18n.txt.tmp
@@ -125,6 +130,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Tue May 26 2009 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 1.4-0.8.pre
+- cve-2006-1861.patch, cve-2007-2754.patch: Port of freetype2 fixes. (#502565)
+
 * Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.4-0.7.pre
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
 

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rpms/freetype1/F-11 cve-2006-1861.patch, NONE, 1.1 cve-2007-2754.patch, NONE, 1.1

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Jackson
Author: ajax

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/freetype1/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv29730

Added Files:
cve-2006-1861.patch cve-2007-2754.patch 
Log Message:
* Tue May 26 2009 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 1.4-0.8.pre
- cve-2006-1861.patch, cve-2007-2754.patch: Port of freetype2 fixes. (#502565)


cve-2006-1861.patch:

--- NEW FILE cve-2006-1861.patch ---
diff -up 
freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c.freetype-pre1.4-CVE-2006-1861-null-pointer 
freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c
--- freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c.freetype-pre1.4-CVE-2006-1861-null-pointer
2009-05-12 19:40:52.0 -0400
+++ freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c   2009-05-12 19:41:03.0 -0400
@@ -270,6 +270,10 @@
 j= 0;
 flag = exec-pts.touch;
 
+/* CVE-2006-1861 */ 
+if ( flag == NULL ) 
+ return TT_Err_Invalid_Composite; /* for lack of a better err code */
+
 while ( j  n_points )
 {
   Byte  c, cnt;

cve-2007-2754.patch:

--- NEW FILE cve-2007-2754.patch ---
diff -up freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c.ttf-overflow 
freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c
--- freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c.ttf-overflow  2009-05-12 19:25:25.0 
-0400
+++ freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c   2009-05-12 19:28:15.0 -0400
@@ -236,7 +236,7 @@
 
 FORGET_Frame();
 
-if ( n_points  left_points )
+if ( n_points  0  || n_points  left_points )
 {
   PTRACE0(( ERROR: Too many points in glyph %ld\n, subg-index ));
   return TT_Err_Too_Many_Points;

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rpms/freetype1/F-10 cve-2006-1861.patch, NONE, 1.1 cve-2007-2754.patch, NONE, 1.1 freetype1.spec, 1.5, 1.6

2009-05-26 Thread Adam Jackson
Author: ajax

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/freetype1/F-10
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv30111

Modified Files:
freetype1.spec 
Added Files:
cve-2006-1861.patch cve-2007-2754.patch 
Log Message:
* Tue May 26 2009 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 1.4-0.8.pre
- cve-2006-1861.patch, cve-2007-2754.patch: Port of freetype2 fixes. (#502565)


cve-2006-1861.patch:

--- NEW FILE cve-2006-1861.patch ---
diff -up 
freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c.freetype-pre1.4-CVE-2006-1861-null-pointer 
freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c
--- freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c.freetype-pre1.4-CVE-2006-1861-null-pointer
2009-05-12 19:40:52.0 -0400
+++ freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c   2009-05-12 19:41:03.0 -0400
@@ -270,6 +270,10 @@
 j= 0;
 flag = exec-pts.touch;
 
+/* CVE-2006-1861 */ 
+if ( flag == NULL ) 
+ return TT_Err_Invalid_Composite; /* for lack of a better err code */
+
 while ( j  n_points )
 {
   Byte  c, cnt;

cve-2007-2754.patch:

--- NEW FILE cve-2007-2754.patch ---
diff -up freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c.ttf-overflow 
freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c
--- freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c.ttf-overflow  2009-05-12 19:25:25.0 
-0400
+++ freetype-pre1.4/lib/ttgload.c   2009-05-12 19:28:15.0 -0400
@@ -236,7 +236,7 @@
 
 FORGET_Frame();
 
-if ( n_points  left_points )
+if ( n_points  0  || n_points  left_points )
 {
   PTRACE0(( ERROR: Too many points in glyph %ld\n, subg-index ));
   return TT_Err_Too_Many_Points;


Index: freetype1.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/freetype1/F-10/freetype1.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.5
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6
--- freetype1.spec  14 Jun 2008 08:41:03 -  1.5
+++ freetype1.spec  26 May 2009 20:31:01 -  1.6
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 
 Name:   freetype1
 Version:1.4
-Release:0.6.pre%{?dist}
+Release:0.8.pre%{?dist}
 Summary:Free TrueType font rendering engine, compatibility version
 Group:  System Environment/Libraries
 License:FTL
@@ -15,6 +15,9 @@ Source: http://downloads.sourcef
 Patch0: freetype-1.3.1-1.4pre.patch
 Patch1: freetype-1.4-disable-ft1-bci.patch
 Patch2: freetype-1.4pre-CVE-2008-1808.patch
+Patch3:cve-2006-1861.patch
+Patch4:cve-2007-2754.patch
+
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildRequires:  zlib-devel libXt-devel gettext
 
@@ -61,6 +64,8 @@ developing applications that use %{name}
 %endif
 
 %patch2 -p1
+%patch3 -p1
+%patch4 -p1
 
 iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 docs/i18n.txt  docs/i18n.txt.tmp
 touch -r docs/i18n.txt docs/i18n.txt.tmp
@@ -125,6 +130,12 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Tue May 26 2009 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 1.4-0.8.pre
+- cve-2006-1861.patch, cve-2007-2754.patch: Port of freetype2 fixes. (#502565)
+
+* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.4-0.7.pre
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
+
 * Sat Jun 14 2008 Hans de Goede j.w.r.dego...@hhs.nl 1.4-0.6.pre
 - Backport fixes for CVE-2008-1806, CVE-2008-1807 and CVE-2008-1808 to
   freetype 1 (where applicable, bz 450773, 450774)

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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-05-26 16:55:07 EDT ---
freetype1-1.4-0.8.pre.fc10 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 10.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/freetype1-1.4-0.8.pre.fc10

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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-05-26 16:55:53 EDT ---
freetype1-1.4-0.8.pre.fc11 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 11.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/freetype1-1.4-0.8.pre.fc11

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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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Alexei Podtelezhnikov apodt...@ucsd.edu changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||apodt...@ucsd.edu




--- Comment #6 from Alexei Podtelezhnikov apodt...@ucsd.edu  2009-05-26 
17:26:18 EDT ---
Would you please fix a typo (obsolote) in the package description and make it
more obvious that it is an old-old library by moving the second paragraph
upfront?

I am curious which package still uses it and why we cannot drop this old
library.
Nobody should use it any longer.

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[Bug 502307] Review Request:sil-charis-compact-fonts - A version of Charis SIL with tighter line spacing

2009-05-26 Thread bugzilla
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Jason Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu changed:

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   Flag|fedora-cvs? |fedora-cvs+




--- Comment #3 from Jason Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu  2009-05-26 18:30:20 EDT 
---
CVS done.

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mobile phone + password = 2 factor auth?

2009-05-26 Thread Seth Vidal
I was changing some settings with my mobile phone company and in order to 
change my password they made me use what looks a lot like 2 factor auth:


something I know: my current password
something I have: my phone

I logged in with my current password - then they txt'd me a temporary 
password which I had to type in to verify I was me.


Which got me to wondering - if most people have a mobile phone and/or have 
access to one - why couldn't we use that as the second factor for our 
auth?


I can think of multiple ways to do it:

1. login to a web page
2. click on 'auth me' button
3. it sends you a txt msg
4. you input the password it sent you
5. you get a cert back that you use for auths for a set period of time (24 
hours?)


or

1. login to a webpage
2. download a key
3. it sends you a txt msg which contains a password for that key
4. the key + txt'd password allows you to login for a set period of time 
(24 hours?)



Now, my question is - what is dangerous/silly about this?

-sv

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Re: [PATCH] Make bacula backup to /bacula/, include db1's db3 dumps.

2009-05-26 Thread Ricky Zhou
Sorry, the commit message wasn't as clear as it could have been.  

backup1 has been running out of space on catalog backup jobs, as it
makes a temporary dump of the bacula database in
/var/spool/bacula/bacula.sql.  This commit moves this temporary dump to
/bacula, which has more space.

The other thing in this commit is that it adds /var/lib/mysql/backups
into the include list, which makes bacula backup db1's backup of db3.
Currently, we're excluding these files, but we're still backing up dumps
of db3 in several other places.

I'd like to commit these to puppet and run puppet on backup1.  Can I get
two +1s?

Thanks,
Ricky


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Re: mobile phone + password = 2 factor auth?

2009-05-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 11:01 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
 2. cost structure of sending/receiving a lot of txt msgs.

Don't most carriers offer an email gateway to sms?

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Re: mobile phone + password = 2 factor auth?

2009-05-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 17:44 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
 A problem with phones is, that they are typically not as secure as hardware 
 tokens. Users can install custom software on them. Also the phone may be 
 compromised via bluetooth. It might be even possible to directly access text 
 messages via bluetooth or maybe also wifi nowadays.
 

Wouldn't that be why you have to combine what comes up on your phone
with the password you know, so that just the phone alone can't get you
in?

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Re: mobile phone + password = 2 factor auth?

2009-05-26 Thread Seth Vidal



On Tue, 26 May 2009, Bryan Kearney wrote:


Seth Vidal wrote:



On Tue, 26 May 2009, Bryan Kearney wrote:


Seth Vidal wrote:

Now, my question is - what is dangerous/silly about this?



Luddites like me who have disabled text messages on their phones.



Well your options would eventually be:
- enable txt msgs
- carry a yubikey with you everywhere


As long as I get a non-text msg version I am fine. To your original 
question... things to consider:


1) Cost of sending SMS.
2) How to prove that bkear...@foo.com == 555-1212



1. acknowledged - but we know there is a cost to the hardware keys, too.

2. you prove that they are related the same way that I prove that when we
issue a hw key to skvi...@fedoraproject.org that it goes to ME.

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Re: mobile phone + password = 2 factor auth?

2009-05-26 Thread Seth Vidal



On Tue, 26 May 2009, Seth Vidal wrote:

I was changing some settings with my mobile phone company and in order to 
change my password they made me use what looks a lot like 2 factor auth:


something I know: my current password
something I have: my phone

I logged in with my current password - then they txt'd me a temporary 
password which I had to type in to verify I was me.


Which got me to wondering - if most people have a mobile phone and/or have 
access to one - why couldn't we use that as the second factor for our auth?




Now, my question is - what is dangerous/silly about this?


Jeremy mentioned some potential problems on jabber:

1. no guaranteed message delivery time

2. cost structure of sending/receiving a lot of txt msgs.


In both cases I'd be curious how that ends up in practice.

-sv

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