Re: Testdisk error for LVM partition recover

2009-08-19 Thread Arun Shrimali
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
 wrote:
>
> Please, do not post is HTML!
>
> Arun Shrimali wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Mikkel wrote:
> >
> >> What happens when you try to boot? Do you get an error message? If
> >> so, what is it?
> >
> > /Boot disk failure/
> >
> > If Grub is loading, you may be able to boot with the
> >> previous kernel. If Grub is not loading, you can probably use the
> >> install disk in the rescue mode to re-install Grub.
> >
> > /I tried to reinstall the grub with live CD, but it says "file not found"/
> >
> > /Arun/
> >
> You are much better off using a normal install disk, or the net
> install CD, and using the rescue mode. You let it mount your file
> systems, and then run chroot /mnt/sysimage. You run grub-install
> from there.
>
> If this does not work, report back the error messages. Do not
> respond with a HTML message.
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As you said I used the normal install disk and using rescue mode,
I ask for continue and read only mode

Continue -->
Error processing LVM
There is inconsistent LVM data on logical volume
Vg-resobank-LogVol02. you can reinitialise all related PVs (/dev/sda1)
which will erase the LVM metadata, or ignore which will preserve the
contents.

Ignore >
you don't have any Linux partition, press return to get a shell. The
system will reboot automatically when you exit from the shell.

And when we boot from HDD it give me following prompt :

1234f:

any further help 

Arun

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Re: Sound Howto for Fedora-11

2009-08-19 Thread Roger


n 08/19/2009 03:55 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

How can I get my various sound utilities and functions namely:
 Amarok
 Firefox Sound (npviewer)
 Xmms
 Audacity
 Pulseaudio and its Controls
 Gnome Advanced Volume Control
 Jack
 Qjackctl
 Computer Line in
 
to play nice together?  Is there a Howto for all this?

I had most of this stuff working on Fedora-10, but many things seem to
have changed in Fedora-11.

Thanks - jon

I run Fedora 11 and yum installed all those files above some time ago, they all 
work for me.
I use Amarok, Audacity, Pulseaudio regularly.
I find that Pulseaudio wants to continually send signals and have to locate the 
process and kill it to stop it.
Then it behaves for a week or so.

Dont know about playing together tho!
Roger

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Touchpad on new MacBook Pro

2009-08-19 Thread Henrik Frisk
Hi all,

I have a new MacBook Pro on which I have sucessfully installed Fedora 11.
For the most part it works really great but I have a problem with the touch
pad. On the new Macs the touch pad has an integrated button so, in Fedora,
the only way I can work it is to use clicking and dragging with the touch
pad rather than with the integrated button (otherwise, a click on the button
would first move the pointer and then click). This is all fine, except I
can't get the Mouse Preferences "Disable touch pad while typing" to work
with the result that I constantly happen to touch the touchpad while typing,
hence displacing the cursor. The touch pad is quite big so it easily
happens.

I would be greatful for any hints or suggestions.

/henrik
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Samba 3 and changepasswd

2009-08-19 Thread Arun Shrimali
Dear All,

I have recently setup a standalone Samba 3.32 server on Fedora 11,
which is working fine. Now I want my users to change their password
through browser interface.

Is there any web based utility through which users can change their
password in tdbsam ?? as samba 3 uses tdbsam

I have tried changepasswd with smbpasswd
(http://changepassword.sourceforge.net/), but it change system
password as well as samba password), where as I want to change only
smbpasswd, and there is no option to avoid system password to change
which is giving error ??

Arun

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Re: IRC tool question

2009-08-19 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:44 -0600, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> Hi all;
> 
> most of my clients use IM to communicate realtime, however I have one who 
> uses 
> their own IRC server. Is there a way I can setup KDE or a specific IRC chat 
> tool to alert me with a desktop popup message whenever my name is used in an 
> irc room?

Pretty sure Xchat does that.


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Re: Samba 3 and changepasswd

2009-08-19 Thread Didar Hossain
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Arun Shrimali wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I have recently setup a standalone Samba 3.32 server on Fedora 11,
> which is working fine. Now I want my users to change their password
> through browser interface.
>
> Is there any web based utility through which users can change their
> password in tdbsam ?? as samba 3 uses tdbsam
>
> I have tried changepasswd with smbpasswd
> (http://changepassword.sourceforge.net/), but it change system
> password as well as samba password), where as I want to change only
> smbpasswd, and there is no option to avoid system password to change
> which is giving error ??

I believe, you will have to write your own web front-end to change SMB
passwords in this case.

Didar

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Re: nvidia vs suspend to disk

2009-08-19 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote:


Does anyone currently have suspend to
disk working with nvidia's drivers?


Has anyone tried and failed to get suspend
to disk working with nvidia's drivers?


If so, how?
One of the items I googled hinted that
it might not be possible with SMP.

In another thread (no hardware acceleration?),
another poster mentioned pm-suspend quirks,
but I've not been able to figure out how to use them.
pm-suspend just gives me an error message.
Prior to installing the nvidia driver,
the KDE gui would let me suspend to disk.

I'm running fedora 9 on a pentium 4 with hyperthreading.


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Re: Fedora And Virtualization

2009-08-19 Thread Mike Cloaked



Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
> 
> don't use VM$#$$#$#
> 
> please use KVM, libvirt and virt-manager
> 
> 

If you have a box that does not have hardware virtualisation then can you
still use KVM?


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Re: Fedora And Virtualization

2009-08-19 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
no, the hardware virtualization is required, but there are cheap
machines with this, like amd processor's


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:

>
> Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
>>
>> don't use VM$#$$#$#
>>
>> please use KVM, libvirt and virt-manager
>>
>>
>
> If you have a box that does not have hardware virtualisation then can you
> still use KVM?
>



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Re: Samba 3 and changepasswd

2009-08-19 Thread Arun Shrimali
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Didar Hossain wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Arun Shrimali wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have recently setup a standalone Samba 3.32 server on Fedora 11,
>> which is working fine. Now I want my users to change their password
>> through browser interface.
>>
>> Is there any web based utility through which users can change their
>> password in tdbsam ?? as samba 3 uses tdbsam
>>
>> I have tried changepasswd with smbpasswd
>> (http://changepassword.sourceforge.net/), but it change system
>> password as well as samba password), where as I want to change only
>> smbpasswd, and there is no option to avoid system password to change
>> which is giving error ??
>
> I believe, you will have to write your own web front-end to change SMB
> passwords in this case.
>
> Didar
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But I don't know the tdbsam, can anybody help me out 

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Re: Fedora And Virtualization

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:29:54 -0700 (PDT)
Mike Cloaked wrote:

> If you have a box that does not have hardware virtualisation then can you
> still use KVM?

Not KVM, but virt-manager and qemu will work (just slower, but then all
virtualization options will be slow as well, which one is slowest is
probably a matter for a big debate).

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Re: Selecting Image for Icons in F11

2009-08-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 21:23:02 Jim wrote:
> F11/KDE-4.3
> How do you select a Image for a Icon in KDE-4.3 ?
>
> Like in KDE-3.5 where you could go into Properties and click on Icon to
> select a Icon Image . Like the Image for /home the little house.

Exactly the same as in 3.5.  Properties, click on the existing icon, change 
it.

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Re: IRC tool question

2009-08-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 23:44:16 Kevin Kempter wrote:
> Hi all;
>
> most of my clients use IM to communicate realtime, however I have one who
> uses their own IRC server. Is there a way I can setup KDE or a specific IRC
> chat tool to alert me with a desktop popup message whenever my name is used
> in an irc room?
>
> Currently I'm using Konversation and I have it set to "watch" for my
> username but I'm not getting any alerts
>
This was answered on the KDE list, to which you also posted.  "Watch" is not 
the correct place to set this.  You need to configure notifications, from 
which you can set a sound and/or flash the taskbar.

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how to get 32-bit libz.so.1 support on 64-bit fedora?

2009-08-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  i just installed a sizable number of pre-built 32-bit executables on
my 64-bit f11 system, a very small number of which are looking for the
(32-bit) shared lib libz.so.1 and which will therefore fail to run.

  since my system is 64-bit, i have no libz shared lib under either
/lib or /usr/lib, but i will of course have the 64-bit version
installed under /lib64.

  what's the proper solution to get around this?  yum installing the
32-bit compatibility libs?  then libz?  thanks.

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Re: how to get 32-bit libz.so.1 support on 64-bit fedora?

2009-08-19 Thread Pikachu_2014
Hi,

you just have to install the i586 zlib package : "yum install zlib.i586"

2009/8/19 Robert P. J. Day 

>
>  i just installed a sizable number of pre-built 32-bit executables on
> my 64-bit f11 system, a very small number of which are looking for the
> (32-bit) shared lib libz.so.1 and which will therefore fail to run.
>
>  since my system is 64-bit, i have no libz shared lib under either
> /lib or /usr/lib, but i will of course have the 64-bit version
> installed under /lib64.
>
>  what's the proper solution to get around this?  yum installing the
> 32-bit compatibility libs?  then libz?  thanks.
>
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Re: how to get 32-bit libz.so.1 support on 64-bit fedora?

2009-08-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Pikachu_2014 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> you just have to install the i586 zlib package : "yum install
> zlib.i586"

  yup, i just figured that out.  and i'm assuming that would have
required also installing glibc.i586 as a dependency, which i just
happened to have installed already.

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Re: Sound Howto for Fedora-11

2009-08-19 Thread Hiisi

From: Jonathan Ryshpan 
How can I get my various sound utilities and functions namely:
Amarok
Firefox Sound (npviewer)
Xmms
Audacity
Pulseaudio and its Controls
Gnome Advanced Volume Control
Jack
Qjackctl
Computer Line in

to play nice together?  Is there a Howto for all this?

I had most of this stuff working on Fedora-10, but many things seem to
have changed in Fedora-11.

Thanks - jon

I don't use most of utilities you've named. So, the best solution for me 
was 'yum erase pulseaudio'.
Everything works like a charm now on my FC11! Sorry if my answer doesn't 
much your question.

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hello

2009-08-19 Thread Alireza Yaghoobi Bijarboneh
I want to login in site but I cannot.
Why?



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Re: F11 iwlagn errors on Thinkpad W700

2009-08-19 Thread Chris Rouch
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Robert G. (Doc)
Savage wrote:
> I apologize in advance for what promises to be a lengthy post. Suggest heavy
> editing in any replies.
>
> Since installing F11 on my Thinkpad W700 I've had a chronic problem with the
> wireless disconnecting after a random time interval. It was rock solid with
> F10. I've noticed a number of kernel errors in my e-mail logs. The most
> prolific example was yesterday:
>
> -- Kernel Begin ---
>
> WARNING:  Kernel Errors Present
>    iwlagn: Error sending REPLY_SC ...:  1 Time(s)
>    iwlagn: Error sending REPLY_TX ...:  5 Time(s)
>    iwlagn: Error sending Sensitiv ...:  1 Time(s)
>    iwlagn: Microcode SW error detected.  Resta ...:  19 Time(s)
>
> -- Kernel End -
>
> I just now updated to the 2.6.29.6-217.2.7 kernel. --changelog says John
> Linville patched iwlwifi in the 217.2.5 kernel on Wednesday to fix a TX
> queue race. I pulled my eth0 cable, reset the NetworkManager wireless
> connection, and started a ping to my default gateway. The wifi connection
> lasted 11 pings, so John's patch didn't fix this problem.
>
> When the ping stopped I saw the following in /var/log/messages:
>
> Aug 16 15:57:10 tiger kernel: iwlagn: Microcode SW error detected.
> Restarting 0x8200.
> Aug 16 15:57:10 tiger kernel: iwlagn: No space for Tx
> Aug 16 15:57:10 tiger kernel: iwlagn: Error sending SENSITIVITY_CMD failed
> Aug 16 15:57:10 tiger kernel: iwlagn: SENSITIVITY_CMD failed: -28
> Aug 16 15:57:10 tiger kernel: Registered led device: iwl-phy0:radio
> Aug 16 15:57:10 tiger kernel: Registered led device; iwl-phy0:assoc
> Aug 16 15:57:10 tiger kernel: Registered led device: iwl-phy0:RX
> Aug 16 15:57:10 tiger kernel: Registered led device: iwl-phy0:TX
>
> When I click on the NetworkManager button to reset the wireless connection
> /var/log/messages reports a very chatty but normal looking restart:
>
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  (wlan0): device state change: 8
> -> 3 (reason 0)
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  (wlan0): deactivating device
> (reason: 0)
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  check_one_route(): (wlan0)
> error - 34 returned from rtnl_route_del(): Success#012
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger avahi-daemon[1901]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on
> interface wlan0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.7.
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger avahi-daemon[1901]: Interface wlan0.IPv4 no longer
> relevan for mDNS.
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0) starting
> connection 'Auto '
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  (wlan0): device state change: 3
> -> 4 (reason 0)
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
> (Device Prepare) scheduled...
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
> (Device Prepare) started...
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5
> (Device Configure) scheduled...
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
> (Device Prepare) complete.
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  (wlan0): supplicant connection
> state:  completed -> disconnected
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5
> (Device Configure) starting...
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  (wlan0): device state change: 4
> -> 5 (reason 0)
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0/wireless):
> connection 'Auto ' requires no security.  No secrets needed.
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Config: added 'ssid' value
> ''
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Config: added 'scan_ssid' value
> '1'
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Config: added 'key_mgmt' valuen
> 'NONE'
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5
> (Device Configure) complete.
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  Config: set interface ap_scan
> to 1
> Aug 16 16:03:46 tiger NetworkManager:  (wlan0: supplicant connection
> state:  disconnected -> scanning
> Aug 16 16:03:48 tiger ntpd[2263]: Deleting interface #10 wlan0,
> 192.168.1.7#123, interface stats: received=2, sent=18, dropped-0,
> active_time=664 secs
> Aug 16 16:03:49 tiger NetworkManager:  (wlan0): supplicant connection
> state:  scanning -> associating
> Aug 16 16:03:49 tiger NetworkManager:  (wlan0): supplicant connection
> state:  associating -> associated
> Aug 16 16:03:49 tiger NetworkManager:  (wlan0): supplicant connection
> state:  associated -> completed
> Aug 16 16:03:49 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0/wireless)
> Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful. Connected to wireless network
> ''.
> Aug 16 16:03:49 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0) Stage 3 of 5
> (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
> Aug 16 16:03:49 tiger NetworkManager:  Activation (wlan0) Stage 3 of 5
> (IP Configure Start) started...
> Aug 16 16:03:49 tiger NetworkManager:  (wlan0): device state change: 5
> -> 7 (reason 0)
> Aug 16 16:03:49

Re: Thinkpad T60P Wifi Help

2009-08-19 Thread Chris Rouch
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Gregory
Sieranski wrote:
> Hi guys,
> Ever since I installed F11 I have been unable to get wifi to work. I have an
> airport router using mac filtering and wpa2 personal encryption. I used
> these exact same things when running F10 and had no problems with wifi.
> Doing:
> lsmod  iwl3945   143644  0
> ifconfig wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:3C:91:CA:0F
>   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
>
> lspci 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
> [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
>
> I have:
>
> kernel.x86_64   2.6.29.5-191.fc11
> @updates
> kernel.x86_64   2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11
> @updates
> kernel.x86_64   2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11
> @updates
> kernel-devel.x86_64 2.6.29.5-191.fc11
> @updates
> kernel-devel.x86_64 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11
> @updates
> kernel-devel.x86_64 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11
> @updates
> kernel-firmware.noarch  2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11
> @updates
> kernel-headers.x86_64   2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11
> @updates
>
> iwl3945-firmware.noarch 15.32.2.9-1.fc11
> installed
>
> wireless-tools-29-4.fc11.x86_64
> wireless-tools-devel-29-4.fc11.x86_64
>
> When I try to connect to my network and do a dmesg I get:
>
> iwl3945 :03:00.0: firmware: requesting iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode
> iwl3945 loaded firmware version 15.32.2.9
>
> At this point I don't know what else to do. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Gregory
>

Do you have wpa_supplicant installed and running? Or are you using
network manager? Does it work without any encryption? Does iwlist
scanning show the access point?

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Re: access USB devices from VirtualBox

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:14 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 08/18/2009 07:46 PM, L wrote:
> > hope some one offer a fix?
> >
> >
> 
> This is due to a legacy usbfs system in use by Fedora. No other 
> distribution uses usbfs anymore. VirtualBox is coded to use legacy 
> first, then libusb.
> 
> In order to get around having to add an entry in /etc/fstab, you can 
> remove the usbfs mounting in /etc/rc.sysinit and reboot. This will allow 
> VBox to use libusb.
> 
> I've brought it up on the list before and the knee-jerk response was 
> that VBox is broken -- it's "proprietary" (which is wrong, only the RDP 
> piece is) and not kvm/qemu/xen (Fedora/Red Hat products).

Unfortunately it's exactly the USB-supporting part of VBox that's
proprietary. It would help the argument to find some other app for which
libusb is clearly superior to usbfs.

One such is pilot-link. There are probably others.

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Re: Fedora And Virtualization

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 07:39 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:29:54 -0700 (PDT)
> Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> > If you have a box that does not have hardware virtualisation then can you
> > still use KVM?
> 
> Not KVM, but virt-manager and qemu will work (just slower, but then all
> virtualization options will be slow as well, which one is slowest is
> probably a matter for a big debate).

Not necessarily true. I think the Xen people claim their product can
actually be faster without hardware virtualization in some
circumstances.

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Re: nvidia vs suspend to disk

2009-08-19 Thread Chris Rouch
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Michael
Hennebry wrote:
> Does anyone currently have suspend to
> disk working with nvidia's drivers?
> If so, how?
> One of the items I googled hinted that
> it might not be possible with SMP.
>
> In another thread (no hardware acceleration?),
> another poster mentioned pm-suspend quirks,
> but I've not been able to figure out how to use them.
> pm-suspend just gives me an error message.
> Prior to installing the nvidia driver,
> the KDE gui would let me suspend to disk.
>
> I'm running fedora 9 on a pentium 4 with hyperthreading.
>

I have tuxonice suspend working on F11 (and previously F10) with
nvidia drivers. You need a patched  kernel (kernel-tuxonice, available
from atrpms) and the suspend process is different, but the end result
is the same.

Regards,

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virt-install - Custom Disk layout Missing while instalation

2009-08-19 Thread Mohammad Mateen Aslam

I am installing FC-11 guest on Fedora 11 Machine via virt-install as follows

bash# virt-install -n shu -r 2000  -l /root/Fedora-11-x86_64-DVD.iso 
--accelerate --os-type=linux -f /dev/vmdata/vm1.root -x console=ttyS0 
--nographics --hvm

Everything goes fine and until i reached to disk partition step where i find no 
custom layout option


   Partitioning Type ├──┐
  │ │   
  │ Installation requires partitioning of your hard drive.  The │   
  │ default layout is suitable for most users.  Select what space   │   
  │ to use and which drives to use as the install target.   │   
  │ │   
  │  Use entire drive   │   
  │  Replace existing Linux system  │   
  │  Use free space │   
  │ │   
  │Which drive(s) do you want to use for this installation? │   
  │  [*]sda 5114 MB (ATA QEMU HARDDISK) ↑   │   
  │  [*]sdb 4063 MB (ATA QEMU HARDDISK) ▮   │   
  │ │   
  │   ┌┐   ┌──┐ │   
  │   │ OK │   │ Back │ │   
  │   └┘   └──┘


Experts are requested to help and see what's going wrong with me. I created the 
same guest for FC10 but its not working in FC11. 

More over it dont ask for any software packages and just do standard 
installation. what to do to have custom package installer.

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Re: Fedora And Virtualization

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:43:52 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> Not necessarily true. I think the Xen people claim their product can
> actually be faster without hardware virtualization in some
> circumstances.

True. The xen paravirtualization is indeed fast, but needs kernel
support in the VM with a paravirt aware kernel, which you can get for
linux kernels (sometimes, depending on the current state of
patches), but can't get for things like Windows.

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Re: nvidia vs suspend to disk

2009-08-19 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 03:27:13PM +0200, Chris Rouch wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Michael
> Hennebry wrote:
> > Does anyone currently have suspend to
> > disk working with nvidia's drivers?
> > If so, how?
> > One of the items I googled hinted that
> > it might not be possible with SMP.
> >
> > In another thread (no hardware acceleration?),
> > another poster mentioned pm-suspend quirks,
> > but I've not been able to figure out how to use them.
> > pm-suspend just gives me an error message.
> > Prior to installing the nvidia driver,
> > the KDE gui would let me suspend to disk.
> >
> > I'm running fedora 9 on a pentium 4 with hyperthreading.
> >
> 
> I have tuxonice suspend working on F11 (and previously F10) with
> nvidia drivers. You need a patched  kernel (kernel-tuxonice, available
> from atrpms) and the suspend process is different, but the end result
> is the same.

Normal suspend and hibernate works properly on my laptop using the
rpmfusion.org NVidia drivers on Fedora 11.  I didn't have to patch or
change anything.  I have a NVidia GeForce 8400M GS in my Dell XPS
M1330 laptop.  While I'm not thrilled about using the proprietary
driver, that driver for now is the only way suspend and hibernate work
properly.  Nouveau fails to return a working display:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502334

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Re: Fedora And Virtualization

2009-08-19 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tom Horsley  said:
> True. The xen paravirtualization is indeed fast, but needs kernel
> support in the VM with a paravirt aware kernel, which you can get for
> linux kernels (sometimes, depending on the current state of
> patches)

I think all the paravirt kernel patches are upstream now.  Fedora has
been shipping paravirt-capable kernels for a while now, and I don't
think there are extra patches to support that.

The non-upstreamed, patches still needed piece is the Xen hypervisor
itself.  That's the part that Fedora has _not_ shipped for a while, due
to the workload of trying to maintain patches against current kernels.

The nice thing about Xen (vs. KVM) is that when a paravirt OS is
available (e.g. almost any Open Source OS), you don't need any special
hardware to get a near-full-speed virtual host.  With KVM, you must have
a CPU with virtualization extensions supported and enabled.  AMD leaves
hardware-virt out of a few of the low-end CPUs, and Intel a few more.

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Re: virt-install - Custom Disk layout Missing while instalation

2009-08-19 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Mohammad Mateen Aslam  said:
> Everything goes fine and until i reached to disk partition step where i find 
> no custom layout option
...
> More over it dont ask for any software packages and just do standard 
> installation. what to do to have custom package installer.

IIRC, the text mode installer lost some of these options in F11 (nothing
to do with virtualization).
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Re: hello

2009-08-19 Thread iarly selbir | ski0s
Please. only saying you have problem don't said anything to us try help you,
provides more information about your problem, errors, etc.

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> I want to login in site but I cannot.
> Why?
>
>
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Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread William Case
Hi;

Is there no way around having to restart after some upgrade downloads
like a new kernel or the recent gfs upgrades?

I have no solutions to offer other than some amateur passing thoughts.
Nor do I find restarting a particularly onerous burden in Fedora.  

However, by way of comparison, I dual boot into WindowsXP about once
every two weeks.  I swear, honest to God, I spend about 45 minutes
getting all the automatic M$ updates plus the latest anti-virus updates
before I can begin to do something.  The normal M$ process of
upgrading/updating usually requires 1-4 restarts.  It is all very
annoying. 

Even though I don't have to worry about such things anymore, I am sure
employers who use Windows must be tearing their hair out watching each
employee sitting around for 45 minutes while their machines are updated.

So, what does this have to do with Fedora and Linux in general.  

It would probably be a great bonus if Linux could figure out a way to
upgrade without the annoying and obvious routine of having to reboot.
Rebooting reminds users too much of M$ type of annoyances.

I would like to describe the kind of thing I have in mind, but in no way
am I putting the following idea forward as a solution.  It is for
explanation purposes only.  

Can upgrades that will interfere with the running kernel not be stored
in swap, for example, and then slowly replace each process that is not
running; that is, on hard disk or sleeping in memory until the upgrade
is completed?  If needed, perhaps a brief view of the start flash screen
and loading timer bar without an overt shutdown and restart?

What are the arguments against this kind of thing?

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Re: access USB devices from VirtualBox

2009-08-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Agile Aspect wrote:
> 
> Try adding the following to /etc/fstab:
> 
>  none /sys/bus/usb/driversusbfs devgid=503,devmode=664 0 0
> 
> And then create a group 'usb' with a group id of 503.
> 
Dumb question - why not use the vbox group, as you already have to
be a member of it to run VirtualBox?

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Re: System->Administration->Users and Group tool "mismatch" with adduser tool?

2009-08-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> 
> The question is a general question, regardless of
> the distro, OSIT.
> 
> Fedora starts @ 500  & up
> Ubuntu starts @ 1000 & up
> 
> I am not sure if the administration tool itself is
> the same application for most distros, though.
> 
> I am currently setting up on Ubuntu and I don't see
> any "preferences" button on this application.  I will
> check on Fedora when I wrap up Ubuntu.  I am specifically
> looking to where this app stores its data or expects to
> find its data if it is not accepting the data from
> passwd, group, ... files.  It's possible it creates it's
> own database somewhere and expects no user has been
> previously installed, thus being fascist, me thinks,
> but I could be wrong.
> 
Look under Edit.

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thunderbird no longer opens clicked URLs in a web browser (protocol-handler.app.http) ?

2009-08-19 Thread Lonni J Friedman
Ever since updating to thunderbird-3.0beta3 (in Fedora11), any URLs
that I click on fail to do anything.  Previously they opened up in
Firefox.  I've got the following set in thunderbird:

network.protocol-handler.app.http;firefox
network.protocol-handler.app.https;firefox
network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;firefox

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Re: Fedora And Virtualization

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:55:29 -0500
Chris Adams wrote:

> I think all the paravirt kernel patches are upstream now.  Fedora has
> been shipping paravirt-capable kernels for a while now, and I don't
> think there are extra patches to support that.

Yep. The latest kernels all have the "paravirt ops" support (if I'm
remembering my jargon correctly). The original Xen patches were
based on 2.6.18 and worked pretty well in 2.6.18 itself. The
kernels between 2.6.18 and today are where the situation is iffy
with various levels of stability in the xen patches wedged into
kernels after 2.6.18.

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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:13:49 -0400
William Case wrote:

> What are the arguments against this kind of thing?

Mostly that it is really really hard to do right and
you'd probably never get the kind of discipline and
testing require from the wild west open source
community :-).

There are systems where it is required that live
kernels be patchable with no downtime (things like
space stations and nuclear reactor controllers), but
it is fantastically complex to make work.

There are even things like kexec now that still
look like a reboot but don't go all the way down
and back up. All you have to do is figure out
how to merge the kexec technology with the
virtualization live migration technology and
migrate to a newly kexeced kernel on the same
machine :-).

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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:35:12AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Mostly that it is really really hard to do right and
> you'd probably never get the kind of discipline and
> testing require from the wild west open source
> community :-).

Actually, this has already been done with Ksplice (http://www.ksplice.com).

It claims to run with Ubuntu, RHEL, CentOS, Parallels, Debian, and SuSE.

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Thunderbird 3.0b3 IMAP IDLE

2009-08-19 Thread Chris Bredesen

List,

IMAP IDLE seems to have quit working for me in beta 3.  It's either not 
working or it stops working after a very short duration.  Anyone else 
seeing strange behavior with IMAP servers?


I'll see nothing new in my inbox, then if I happen to open a message or 
do something that triggers a connection with the server, a pile of 
messages show up.  I'd had this behavior once in a blue moon previously 
and thought not much of it.  But it seems to be the rule now, not the 
exception.


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Re: thunderbird no longer opens clicked URLs in a web browser (protocol-handler.app.http) ?

2009-08-19 Thread Steven Stern
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On 08/19/2009 09:22 AM, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
> Ever since updating to thunderbird-3.0beta3 (in Fedora11), any URLs
> that I click on fail to do anything.  Previously they opened up in
> Firefox.  I've got the following set in thunderbird:
> 
> network.protocol-handler.app.http;firefox
> network.protocol-handler.app.https;firefox
> network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;firefox
> 
> Anyone else seeing this problem?
> 

Go into Firefox and make sure you enable it as the default browser.

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Re: Thunderbird 3.0b3 IMAP IDLE

2009-08-19 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak

On 08/19/2009 10:47 AM, Chris Bredesen wrote:

List,

IMAP IDLE seems to have quit working for me in beta 3. It's either not
working or it stops working after a very short duration. Anyone else
seeing strange behavior with IMAP servers?


I have a setup where several users watch the same IMAP mailbox. This 
seems to be flaky on 3.0b3. Someone will move a message to a different 
folder, but then the original message will re-appear in the original 
folder later for no reason.


It used to work with previous versions.

Anyway, it's always hard to pin down IMAP problems, but something does 
seem broken in TB with IMAP.


- Mike

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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 10:35 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> There are systems where it is required that live
> kernels be patchable with no downtime (things like
> space stations and nuclear reactor controllers), but
> it is fantastically complex to make work.

I'd imagine that some of /those/ places would run dual computers in
control, and one would automatically fallover to the other.  You'd need
that sort of redundancy so that you could perform repairs.

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Re: thunderbird no longer opens clicked URLs in a web browser (protocol-handler.app.http) ?

2009-08-19 Thread Ed Greshko
Lonni J Friedman wrote:
> Ever since updating to thunderbird-3.0beta3 (in Fedora11), any URLs
> that I click on fail to do anything.  Previously they opened up in
> Firefox.  I've got the following set in thunderbird:
>
> network.protocol-handler.app.http;firefox
> network.protocol-handler.app.https;firefox
> network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;firefox
>
> Anyone else seeing this problem?
>
>   
No, I'm not having that problem.  However, I had the problem in the
past.  I don't recall the remedy but I do recall the problem was
apparent when I started TB from the command line and then clicked on a URL.

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Re: thunderbird no longer opens clicked URLs in a web browser (protocol-handler.app.http) ?

2009-08-19 Thread Lonni J Friedman
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Steven
Stern wrote:
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> On 08/19/2009 09:22 AM, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
>> Ever since updating to thunderbird-3.0beta3 (in Fedora11), any URLs
>> that I click on fail to do anything.  Previously they opened up in
>> Firefox.  I've got the following set in thunderbird:
>>
>> network.protocol-handler.app.http;firefox
>> network.protocol-handler.app.https;firefox
>> network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;firefox
>>
>> Anyone else seeing this problem?
>>
>
> Go into Firefox and make sure you enable it as the default browser.

And that fixed it, thanks.  I'm still puzzled why that should be
required though.



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fingerprint on fedora 11

2009-08-19 Thread tewi
Hello, I am using a Toshiba laptop with an AES1610 fingerprint.
I typed "lsusb" in the console and I see it was correctly recognized.
But I still can't find the fingerprint option in gnome-about-me.
Any ideas?
Thanks.

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Re: virt-install - Custom Disk layout Missing while

2009-08-19 Thread Mohammad Mateen Aslam

> IIRC, the text mode installer lost some of these options in F11 (nothing
> to do with virtualization).

Any solution to this, am i alone in whole community ???


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Re: virt-install - Custom Disk layout Missing while instalation

2009-08-19 Thread Mohammad Mateen Aslam

> IIRC, the text mode installer lost some of these options in F11 (nothing
> to do with virtualization).

Any solution to this, am i alone in whole community ???


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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 10:35 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> There are systems where it is required that live
>> kernels be patchable with no downtime (things like
>> space stations and nuclear reactor controllers), but
>> it is fantastically complex to make work.
> 
> I'd imagine that some of /those/ places would run dual computers in
> control, and one would automatically fallover to the other.  You'd need
> that sort of redundancy so that you could perform repairs.
> 
I don't know about other countries, but in the U.S., they not only
have backup computers, but they have backup control rooms for
reactors. (In case something happens to the main one, or its control
links.) They even have duplicate control runs that take different
routes.

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Re: thunderbird no longer opens clicked URLs in a web browser (protocol-handler.app.http) ?

2009-08-19 Thread Mike Cloaked



netllama wrote:
> 
> Ever since updating to thunderbird-3.0beta3 (in Fedora11), any URLs
> that I click on fail to do anything.  Previously they opened up in
> Firefox.  I've got the following set in thunderbird:
> 
> network.protocol-handler.app.http;firefox
> network.protocol-handler.app.https;firefox
> network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;firefox
> 
> 

How did you set these in Thunderbird please?
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Re: thunderbird no longer opens clicked URLs in a web browser (protocol-handler.app.http) ?

2009-08-19 Thread Lonni J Friedman
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
>
>
>
> netllama wrote:
>>
>> Ever since updating to thunderbird-3.0beta3 (in Fedora11), any URLs
>> that I click on fail to do anything.  Previously they opened up in
>> Firefox.  I've got the following set in thunderbird:
>>
>> network.protocol-handler.app.http;firefox
>> network.protocol-handler.app.https;firefox
>> network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;firefox
>>
>>
>
> How did you set these in Thunderbird please?

Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> General -> Config Editor


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Re: fingerprint on fedora 11

2009-08-19 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:11:04PM +0800, tewi wrote:
> Hello, I am using a Toshiba laptop with an AES1610 fingerprint.
> I typed "lsusb" in the console and I see it was correctly recognized.
> But I still can't find the fingerprint option in gnome-about-me.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks.

I assume you're on Fedora 11 -- do you have the gdm-plugin-fingerprint
package installed?

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Re: upgrading to Fedora 11 (x86_64) problem

2009-08-19 Thread gary artim
I've used the dvd to update, finishes successfully and still the
kernel and yum still point to fc10.
Seem after the packages are all installed the system runs the
cleanup/alter scripts and sometimes
it works and sometimes not.

alt+cntl+F2 and cat the /boot/grub/grub.conf shows no change and top
shows little going
on..

Yesterday and redid the install with preupgrade-cli and did the above
and the grub list was
fixed up and all worked.

I also have updated using just yum.

Note that sometimes yum works fine, after upgrading and sometimes not.
Sometime the yum packages are
installed correctly or ? -- I that case -- I've done the following:

(as root)
mount /dev/sr0 /mnt && cd /mnt/packages && rpm --nodeps -e yum
yum-util && rpm -Uvh yum- yum-util-...
(be careful using rpm, note the --nodep  --- be sure to ___backup___
before you do any of this)

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Atsuko Crum wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I tried to upgrade Dell Precision T3400 to Fedora 11 from Fedora 10, but the
> upgrade failed.
>
> After anaconda booted and got all needed information (soon after I chose
> what I would like to do with grub), the program skipped the whole upgrading
> process and quickly displayed the last screen "Upgrading is successful". I
> tried a couple more times, but the same thing happened. System still boots
> Fedora 10 OK, though I needed to re-install grub because anaconda messed it
> up.
>
> I used this DVD for upgrading another machine, so the DVD image should be
> burned OK. Probably the installation program has some bugs but they affect
> specifically this hardware (Dell Precision T3400).
>
> Does anyone have the same issue? Or better yet, does anyone know a
> workaround for this problem?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
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installation of fedora 11

2009-08-19 Thread shreyas m


i have downloaded fedora 11 from this page 
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora
i suppose its correct and written it into a bootable disc

i have this files when i open the cd
EFI,  isolinux , liveos ,GPL ,README
the problem is that as and when i boot with the disc CALDERA DOS opens up
from where i cant proceed further
please assist me to install 

 
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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread Tim
Tim:
>> I'd imagine that some of /those/ places would run dual computers in
>> control, and one would automatically fallover to the other.  You'd
>> need that sort of redundancy so that you could perform repairs.

Mikkel L. Ellertson:
> I don't know about other countries, but in the U.S., they not only
> have backup computers, but they have backup control rooms for
> reactors. (In case something happens to the main one, or its control
> links.) They even have duplicate control runs that take different
> routes.

You'd hope they all worked that way...

I've only been inside conventional power stations, one coal/gas fired
station in Australia, and another in Britain (that I can't remember how
it was fueled).  They were certainly memorable occasions.  I've never
been in any other places that literally hummed like they did.  The noise
in the air, the building vibrating, you could even feel the outside
ground humming below your feet.  There's a rumble that permeates
everything, even the extremely sound-isolated control rooms.  Though the
one thing that sticks most in my mind, is that the engineering behind
them is just awesome.

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Re: virt-install - Custom Disk layout Missing while instalation

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:24:58 +
Mohammad Mateen Aslam wrote:

> > IIRC, the text mode installer lost some of these options in F11 (nothing
> > to do with virtualization).  
> 
> Any solution to this, am i alone in whole community ???

Certainly if I was gonna lose any partitioning options,
I'd keep custom and lose everything else (but that's
just me).

If you have another computer laying around, you might
be able to use the GUI installer via VNC. See

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options

for all the magical options you can use on the
installer to do things like VNC. Maybe you
could even get GUI installer to work on
native hardware with something like
xdriver=vesa.

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Re: installation of fedora 11

2009-08-19 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 21:22 +0530, shreyas m wrote:
> i have downloaded fedora 11 from this page
> http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora
> i suppose its correct and written it into a bootable disc

Which file did you use?  DVD, CD, a Live disc...  I'm assuming a live
disc, going from the list below, but I haven't looked at a Fedora 11
live disc to know specifically what's on it.

> i have this files when i open the cd
> EFI,  isolinux , liveos ,GPL ,README
> the problem is that as and when i boot with the disc CALDERA DOS opens
> up from where i cant proceed further
> please assist me to install 

The "Caldera" reference baffles me.  Is Caldera something that you've
previously installed on your hard drive, and that's booting instead of
the CD?

Is your computer set up to boot from the DVD/CD drive, before trying to
boot from the hard drive.

More precise details will be needed for someone to assist you.

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Firefox

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick Dupre

Hello,

In Fedora 11 x86_64, firefox (3.5.2) makes tons of swapping 

 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
wa st
 3  1 396640 205012   4076 2958567681376   58 10  2 87 
1  0
 5  1 396832 203808   4600 294648  157  100  1232   101 1806 4530 21  7 38 
35  0
 0  1 398440 202328   4772 305716  257  479  2313   646 1899 4112 19  9 38 
34  0
 1  9 397700 190380   5032 311832 1612  191  3642  7134 1473 3783 23  6 28 
43  0
 1 11 394932 180208   5056 313848 19920  246213  478  844  2  2 18 
78  0
 0 12 391904 171352   5348 314316 1814   58  2302  1191  625 1115  2  3 28 
67  0
 3  7 389616 158340   5460 319600 1842   49  3659   229  624 1249  2  3 35 
60  0
 1  2 389152 153368   5368 320848 1204  190  3547   216 1206 3763 16  6 40 
37  0
 3  1 389712 160204   4856 317216  264  195  1144  1522 1565 4834 21  7 33 
39  0
 2  1 389852 166500   5796 309440  289  149  1380   870 1570 4109 18  8 38 
35  0

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hplip

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick Dupre

Hello,

When I make lpr of the attached file I only get blank pages !
I am using fedora 11 and hplip 3.9.8

Any idea ?

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Re: nvidia vs suspend to disk

2009-08-19 Thread Axel Thimm
Hi,

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:50:03AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 03:27:13PM +0200, Chris Rouch wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Michael
> > Hennebry wrote:
> > > Does anyone currently have suspend to
> > > disk working with nvidia's drivers?
> > > If so, how?
> > > One of the items I googled hinted that
> > > it might not be possible with SMP.
> > >
> > > In another thread (no hardware acceleration?),
> > > another poster mentioned pm-suspend quirks,
> > > but I've not been able to figure out how to use them.
> > > pm-suspend just gives me an error message.
> > > Prior to installing the nvidia driver,
> > > the KDE gui would let me suspend to disk.
> > >
> > > I'm running fedora 9 on a pentium 4 with hyperthreading.
> > >
> > 
> > I have tuxonice suspend working on F11 (and previously F10) with
> > nvidia drivers. You need a patched  kernel (kernel-tuxonice, available
> > from atrpms) and the suspend process is different, but the end result
> > is the same.
> 
> Normal suspend and hibernate works properly on my laptop using the
> rpmfusion.org NVidia drivers on Fedora 11.  I didn't have to patch or
> change anything.  I have a NVidia GeForce 8400M GS in my Dell XPS
> M1330 laptop.  While I'm not thrilled about using the proprietary
> driver, that driver for now is the only way suspend and hibernate work
> properly.  Nouveau fails to return a working display:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502334

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ill-effects on suspend, but there seems to be an issue with
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Anaconda problem with sata drives

2009-08-19 Thread Mick M.
Hi;
  I have an MSI K9A2 rev 1 motherboard latest BIOS, with Athlon 64x2.
This has 4 sata connectors for "normal drives" and two for raid.

I have run win Xpx64, Fedora 9/10 and now 11 on this box just fine.

Right now it is running F11 on a sata drive with Xp64 under VirtualBox.

OK so Newegg had a sale on Samsung sata drives so I bought 2.
I planned to use the raid connectors and run F11 on them.

I installed the drives and created a raid 1 in the BIOS.
Then I installed F11 with updates onto it.

It would not boot.
I selected it in the BIOS as first boot, but grub wanted a BIOS disk ID.
When the system boots the raid is not shown in the sata/ide first screen.

I fought it for a long time and even re-installed.
Finally I gave up.
I went into the BIOS and cleared the raid so it was JBOD.
Then I put the drives onto the "normal" sata connectors and disabled the raid 
sata.

I was able to fdisk and format both drives just fine.
One as data and one for F11 /boot ext3 swap / as ext4.

When I try to insstall F11 it cannot see the drive,at the partioning screen.

I get an OK  box:
"An error has occurred - no valid devices were found on which to create new 
file systems.
Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem"

I then installed Mint linux, and F10 to the drive just fine
F11 refuses to install.

I tried "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" with no change.

While the installer is hanging I can Ctl-Alt-F2 and "fdisk -l"
It sees the drive just fine, Ctl-Alt-F^ to the installer and it dies.

I have re-installed my working sata drive to post this.
Right now I am downloading Fedoro-12 Alpha x64 to see if that will work.


Any ideas?



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dovecot error on FC11, anyone got a fix?

2009-08-19 Thread jack craig

HI Fedora Folks,

After my FC11 update, i started getting these errors. i am pretty sure they are 
SELinux related, but I am unclear on how to fix.

anyone got a clue to share?

thx, jackc...


  dovecot: Dovecot v1.2.0 starting up (core dumps disabled): 1 Time(s)
dovecot: IMAP(mary): Corrupted index cache file/home/mary/mail/.imap/Kernel 
USB/dovecot.index.cache: record points outside file: 1 Time(s)
dovecot: IMAP(mary): fchown() failed with 
file/home/mary/mail/.imap/INBOX/dovecot.index.cache.lock: Operation not 
permitted: 1 Time(s)
dovecot: IMAP(mary): fchown() failed with 
file/home/mary/mail/.imap/INBOX/dovecot.index.log.newlock: Operation not 
permitted: 4 Time(s)
dovecot: IMAP(mary): fchown() failed with 
file/home/mary/mail/.imap/INBOX/dovecot.index.tmp: Operation not permitted: 9 
Time(s)

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Re: hplip

2009-08-19 Thread Rick Stevens

Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

When I make lpr of the attached file I only get blank pages !
I am using fedora 11 and hplip 3.9.8


lpr doesn't grock postscript.  You need to feed the file through 
something like ghostscript first:


gs -sOutputFile=%pipe%lpr name-of-file.ps

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Re: Anaconda problem with sata drives

2009-08-19 Thread Paul

Mick M. wrote:

Hi;
  I have an MSI K9A2 rev 1 motherboard latest BIOS, with Athlon 64x2.
This has 4 sata connectors for "normal drives" and two for raid.

I have run win Xpx64, Fedora 9/10 and now 11 on this box just fine.

Right now it is running F11 on a sata drive with Xp64 under VirtualBox.

OK so Newegg had a sale on Samsung sata drives so I bought 2.
I planned to use the raid connectors and run F11 on them.

I installed the drives and created a raid 1 in the BIOS.
Then I installed F11 with updates onto it.

It would not boot.
I selected it in the BIOS as first boot, but grub wanted a BIOS disk ID.
When the system boots the raid is not shown in the sata/ide first screen.

I fought it for a long time and even re-installed.
Finally I gave up.
I went into the BIOS and cleared the raid so it was JBOD.
Then I put the drives onto the "normal" sata connectors and disabled the raid 
sata.

I was able to fdisk and format both drives just fine.
One as data and one for F11 /boot ext3 swap / as ext4.

When I try to insstall F11 it cannot see the drive,at the partioning screen.

I get an OK  box:
"An error has occurred - no valid devices were found on which to create new 
file systems.
Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem"

I then installed Mint linux, and F10 to the drive just fine
F11 refuses to install.

I tried "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" with no change.

While the installer is hanging I can Ctl-Alt-F2 and "fdisk -l"
It sees the drive just fine, Ctl-Alt-F^ to the installer and it dies.

I have re-installed my working sata drive to post this.
Right now I am downloading Fedoro-12 Alpha x64 to see if that will work.


Any ideas?



Standard guarantee applies - 30 feet or 30 seconds, whichever comes first.
  
iirc the dmraid in F11, or the code in Anaconda for dmraid on F11, has 
been totally rewritten and is still pretty flaky, especially with sata 
raid/fakeraid controllers.


Not much you can do except try the latest builds, and keep an eye out here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_status_of_open_bugs

Personally I said something impolite much too loud for my office 
environment, then went out and bought a pair of (expensive) Adaptec 
(real) RAID controllers, which work beautifully.


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Re: thunderbird no longer opens clicked URLs in a web browser (protocol-handler.app.http) ?

2009-08-19 Thread Mike Cloaked



netllama wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Mike Cloaked
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> netllama wrote:
>>>
>>> Ever since updating to thunderbird-3.0beta3 (in Fedora11), any URLs
>>> that I click on fail to do anything.  Previously they opened up in
>>> Firefox.  I've got the following set in thunderbird:
>>>
>>> network.protocol-handler.app.http;firefox
>>> network.protocol-handler.app.https;firefox
>>> network.protocol-handler.app.ftp;firefox
>>>
>>>
>>
>> How did you set these in Thunderbird please?
> 
> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> General -> Config Editor
> 
> 

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xmlapache supports?

2009-08-19 Thread chloe K
Hi 
 
Do you know the apache coming from fedora to support xml?
 
how can I check?
 
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Re: installation of fedora 11

2009-08-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 19 August 2009 17:28:49 Tim wrote:
> Is your computer set up to boot from the DVD/CD drive, before trying to
> boot from the hard drive.

Very early on in the bootup you should have a splash screen referring to your 
motherboard.  At the bottom there should be an instruction on how to get to 
the BIOS - it's often called Setup.  Once you get there there should be a 
screen for boot options.  You have to make sure that CD is at the top of the 
list (it normally doesn't say DVD).

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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread Paul

Tim wrote:

Tim:
  

I'd imagine that some of /those/ places would run dual computers in
control, and one would automatically fallover to the other.  You'd
need that sort of redundancy so that you could perform repairs.
  


Mikkel L. Ellertson:
  

I don't know about other countries, but in the U.S., they not only
have backup computers, but they have backup control rooms for
reactors. (In case something happens to the main one, or its control
links.) They even have duplicate control runs that take different
routes.



You'd hope they all worked that way...

I've only been inside conventional power stations, one coal/gas fired
station in Australia, and another in Britain (that I can't remember how
it was fueled).  They were certainly memorable occasions.  I've never
been in any other places that literally hummed like they did.  The noise
in the air, the building vibrating, you could even feel the outside
ground humming below your feet.  There's a rumble that permeates
everything, even the extremely sound-isolated control rooms.  Though the
one thing that sticks most in my mind, is that the engineering behind
them is just awesome.
  
The generators at Niagara Falls, Ontario are quite impressive. The first 
plant was designed by Nikola Tesla and was very famous as it was "The 
first great victory of Tesla's Alternating Current Electricity over 
Thomas Edison's Direct Current." Being near them is almost frightening 
just from the sheer size of the machinery and noise of 1200 cubic meters 
(over 42,000 cubic feet) per second of water driving it all. As this is 
providing 1/4 of all power used in the Province of  Ontario and New York 
State, backup systems for everything are integral to the design.


I hope they don't use Windows :)


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Re: Thunderbird 3.0b3 IMAP IDLE

2009-08-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth

On 08/19/2009 09:47 AM, Chris Bredesen wrote:


IMAP IDLE seems to have quit working for me in beta 3.  It's either 
not working or it stops working after a very short duration.  Anyone 
else seeing strange behavior with IMAP servers?




Working fine here on multiple systems and multiple IMAP servers. I've 
been using tb3b3 for longer than it's been in updates, too.


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Re: hplip

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick Dupre

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Rick Stevens wrote:


Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

When I make lpr of the attached file I only get blank pages !
I am using fedora 11 and hplip 3.9.8


lpr doesn't grock postscript.  You need to feed the file through something 
like ghostscript first:


gs -sOutputFile=%pipe%lpr name-of-file.ps

Unfortunately, it is exactly the same.

The print test page is OK, but using gs always gives me a blank page 




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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:17:54 -0700
Paul wrote:

> I hope they don't use Windows :)

The older it is, the more likely it is to use some custom
system no longer made, with an OS no longer supported,
and no spare parts available. I don't know if that is
worse than windows or not :-).

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Re: Firefox

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 17:31 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> In Fedora 11 x86_64, firefox (3.5.2) makes tons of swapping 
> 
>   r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id 
> wa st
>   3  1 396640 205012   4076 2958567681376   58 10  2 87 

This is meaningless without further explanation. I for one can't even
tell what command you used to generate it. If you want people to comment
you should explain what's going on (e.g. what are you *doing* with
Firefox and how much memory does your machine have?)

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Re: installation of fedora 11

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 21:22 +0530, shreyas m wrote:
> 
> 
> i have downloaded fedora 11 from this page
> http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora
> i suppose its correct and written it into a bootable disc

This seems to be exactly the same message you posted two days ago, to
which several people gave reasonable answers. Did you read those
answers? Did you try the suggestions?

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Re: hplip

2009-08-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 19 August 2009 19:25:47 Patrick Dupre wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > Patrick Dupre wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> When I make lpr of the attached file I only get blank pages !
> >> I am using fedora 11 and hplip 3.9.8
> >
> > lpr doesn't grock postscript.  You need to feed the file through
> > something like ghostscript first:
> >
> > gs -sOutputFile=%pipe%lpr name-of-file.ps
>
> Unfortunately, it is exactly the same.
>
> The print test page is OK, but using gs always gives me a blank page 

Many web pages seem to be impossible to print correctly.  I've struggled with 
this for years.  Now when that happens I 'print to file' as a pdf, then do my 
print from the pdf file.  Not ideal, but it works.

The change to qt print system may be a factor, but I've seen this in firefox 
(only for some sites) long before kde4 came on the scene.

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Re: Akmod-nvidia problem

2009-08-19 Thread jackson byers
Tim wrote:
> I wasted ages TRYING to install, before then.
...

> I seem to recall something about extracting install.img from the ISO,
> and putting it in the same directory as the main DVD ISO.  That didn't
> work, neither did putting it into a images sub-directory.


Tim,

you are referring here to hdinstall,
which was thoroughly discussed in these 3 refs:
-
nov 2008 * F10 HD install - anyone successfully done this?
 From: Mike Cloaked  and response by Tom Horsley

Bug 473351 - F10 HD install using the DVD iso file, initiated from grub, fails

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You possibly made a  mistake on where you placed the install.img.

More likely is the need (starting in F10 and above)
for a leading / on the directory holding the iso.

I successfully did an F11 hdinstall following the refs.

my hdinstall of f11:
where the f11iso is in /root/diso of my f10 on sda1.
I need to reference that sda1 as sdb1
because w usb  anaconda reorders the disks:

title Install Fedora 11   repo=hd:/dev/sdb1:/root/diso   reorder
root (hdx,y)
kernel /boot/f11/vmlinuz noselinux  repo=hd:/dev/sdb1:/root/diso
initrd /boot/f11/initrd.img
#works! used to install f11 to rootusb3

specifically  ":/root/diso"   needs that leading /


Because i was installing F11 to external usb, it had to be powered on,
and then anaconda reordered my disks to place usb first,
so  /root/diso seen from my f10 on sda1,
is seen in anaconda as sdb1 and that has to be
specified in my f11 install stanza

You don't  need to use that  "repo=" form,
then instead in the anaconda gui pick /dev/sdb1
and insert /root/diso  for the directory

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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 11:17 -0700, Paul wrote:
> Being near them is almost frightening just from the sheer size of the
> machinery and noise of 1200 cubic meters (over 42,000 cubic feet) per
> second of water driving it all.

There is something somewhat unnerving about standing next to huge
generators.  Whether it's an awareness of the power being generated, or
just the sheer force of what's going on inside the casing you're right
next to, I couldn't say.  But you sure get the feeling that you should
keep your distance and don't touch.

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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 14:30 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> The older it is, the more likely it is to use some custom
> system no longer made, with an OS no longer supported,
> and no spare parts available. I don't know if that is
> worse than windows or not :-).

Probably some real computer system, or not even computerised (old-school
hardware controlled, but maybe computer monitoring).

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Re: Firefox

2009-08-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth

On 08/19/2009 01:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

This is meaningless without further explanation. I for one can't even
tell what command you used to generate it. If you want people to comment
you should explain what's going on (e.g. what are you *doing* with
Firefox and how much memory does your machine have?)

   


He's using vmstat. The resulting output is useless unless he answers 
your questions though.


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Re: (no subject)

2009-08-19 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 08/18/2009 03:45 PM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux is a very successful, profitable product
> line, which many people buy. I'm not sure how many of them are Fedora
> users and I'm not sure how much Red Hat cares either way - people like
> you are not the target market.
>   
True. Aside from that, RHEL by definition targets the enterprise market.
Centos provides the same bits, but does target a similar business
market, and Fedora targets the consumers, and allows us to do some
testing so that when released, RHEL will be a better product. But, RHEL
does allow Red Hat to employ professionals who do contribute to the
kernel as well as other Linux components which effectively contributes
to making Linux in general better.

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Re: xmlapache supports?

2009-08-19 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 11:10 -0700, chloe K wrote: 
> Do you know the apache coming from fedora to support xml?

In what way do you mean?  Serving an XML file as a webpage, in the same
way that a HTML file would have traditionally been used?

Then, yes.  Just author your file correctly, and serve it.

You may have to use specific filename suffixes to serve out your files
with the right MIME types (e.g. ".xml", or ".xhtml" if you really mean
XHTML rather than XML).  Or you can reconfigure the server to follow
your preferred method of naming files.

If actually serving XML, you also need to correctly make use of CSS
files for rendering.  Serving XML isn't something I've looked at for
ages (since the world's most common browser is crap at XHTML and XML,
there's little point in using it for the general public), so I don't
recall the techniques off hand.  But it's different from HTML and XHTML
with CSS, and far less tolerant of bad authoring.

If you mean using an XML file as a source for creating HTML webpages,
that's a different technique, and do-able, too.  I have even less
recollection about doing that.  But my observations of using one
language to create another noticed that it makes bastard HTML, because
two different languages do different things, careful translation is
needed, and some features just don't transfer.  e.g. After FrontPage
garbage, DocBook has produced some of the crappest machine-generated
HTML I've ever seen.

> how can I check?

Try it...

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DVD Source Plugin

2009-08-19 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
 Hello,

  When I try to play a movie DVD with Movie Player, it correctly
identifies the title of the movie, but when I try to play it, it says
"The playback of this movie requires a DVD source plugin which is not
installed."

  Is there such a plugin in the Fedora repository? Or what are the
options? Thanks!

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Re: nvidia vs suspend to disk

2009-08-19 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Chris Rouch wrote:

> I have tuxonice suspend working on F11 (and previously F10) with
> nvidia drivers. You need a patched  kernel (kernel-tuxonice, available
> from atrpms) and the suspend process is different, but the end result
> is the same.

Is this really reliable?
Because tuxonice+nvidia didn't work reliably for me (80% success
when resuming) around a year ago (on F8-F9?), so I decided to avoid
hibernation and only use suspend-to-ram (and switch back to normal fedora
kernels).
Are you running 32 or 64 bit? How much RAM do you have?

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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread Paul

Tim wrote:

On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 11:17 -0700, Paul wrote:
  

Being near them is almost frightening just from the sheer size of the
machinery and noise of 1200 cubic meters (over 42,000 cubic feet) per
second of water driving it all.



There is something somewhat unnerving about standing next to huge
generators.  Whether it's an awareness of the power being generated, or
just the sheer force of what's going on inside the casing you're right
next to, I couldn't say.  But you sure get the feeling that you should
keep your distance and don't touch.
  
You know it's not likely to suddenly shred itself (and you, like a bug 
in a high speed turbine - oh wait, it IS a high speed turbine), but you 
also know that it _could_. It's that sense of imminent danger, like 
peering down at the water between the dock you are standing on and the 
35,000 ton battleship moored mere feet away from you, knowing how easily 
you could become nothing but a stain on the weathered wood.


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Re: DVD Source Plugin

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 15:36 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>   When I try to play a movie DVD with Movie Player, it correctly
> identifies the title of the movie, but when I try to play it, it says
> "The playback of this movie requires a DVD source plugin which is not
> installed."
> 
>   Is there such a plugin in the Fedora repository? Or what are the
> options? Thanks!

Do you have libdvdcss? If not, install from the Livna repo.

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Re: capital letters in firefox

2009-08-19 Thread Germán Racca

On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:21 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> >> You've in advertently turned on some desktop feature for the blind?
> >
> > Well, I don't know, but I don't think so...
> >
> > Recently I've changed from Xfce4 to pekWM, and I'm using a customized
> > menu, with nothing related to features for blind.
> >
> When did this start again?
> > Moreover, I think this is not a Firefox problem now, because it also
> > happens with Midori (as I said before) and I verified the same behavior
> > in Konkeror right now.
> >
> Indeed, that's why I asked if you had altered a desktop setting.
> 
> I'd have a look at the config file for your WM. The site for pekWM
> seems to have good documentation but I haven't actually tried to work
> with it so YMMV.
> Verify your config , I know there is a fontstring attribute , might
> this be your problem?
> 
> http://www.pekwm.org/files/pekwm/doc/0.1.10/html/config/explanation.html
> 
> I have tried ice and flux, both work well once you get the config
> right but it can be a pain to get everything just so, usually i just
> sell out here and use GNOME or KDE :^)
> 
> http://www.pekwm.org/files/pekwm/doc/0.1.10/html/index.html
> 
> Under Themes and Autoproperties you may find some enlightenment.
> 
> I'm obviously inclined to think its the window manager, maybe some odd
> keyboard shortcut you inadvertently pressed? Its happened to me.

Hello Maxi:

Thanks for your comments. I found nothing related to font in the config
file of pekWM. I also think it can be a keyboard shortcut issue, maybe I
pressed some combined keys but...how to know? I don't understand very
well the autoproperties file, I don't have enough time to dedicate to
that file now...well, it seems I have to live with that issue by now...

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Re: hplip

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick Dupre


OK, but is was working with the version 3.9.6b !


On Wednesday 19 August 2009 19:25:47 Patrick Dupre wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Rick Stevens wrote:

Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

When I make lpr of the attached file I only get blank pages !
I am using fedora 11 and hplip 3.9.8


lpr doesn't grock postscript.  You need to feed the file through
something like ghostscript first:

gs -sOutputFile=%pipe%lpr name-of-file.ps


Unfortunately, it is exactly the same.

The print test page is OK, but using gs always gives me a blank page 


Many web pages seem to be impossible to print correctly.  I've struggled with
this for years.  Now when that happens I 'print to file' as a pdf, then do my
print from the pdf file.  Not ideal, but it works.

The change to qt print system may be a factor, but I've seen this in firefox
(only for some sites) long before kde4 came on the scene.

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Re: hello

2009-08-19 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 05:52 -0700, Alireza Yaghoobi Bijarboneh wrote:
> I want to login in site but I cannot.
> Why?
>  
> 
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Re: upgrading to Fedora 11 (x86_64) problem

2009-08-19 Thread Atsuko Crum

Thank you for your information.

I use yum only for updating. I am reluctant to use yum for upgrading, 
but now I'm considering yum for upgrading.


Atsuko

On 08/19/2009 01:30 AM, Jayakrishnan M wrote:

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Atsuko Crum  wrote:
   

Hi All,

I tried to upgrade Dell Precision T3400 to Fedora 11 from Fedora 10, but the
upgrade failed.

After anaconda booted and got all needed information (soon after I chose
what I would like to do with grub), the program skipped the whole upgrading
process and quickly displayed the last screen "Upgrading is successful". I
tried a couple more times, but the same thing happened. System still boots
Fedora 10 OK, though I needed to re-install grub because anaconda messed it
up.
 

I upgraded a system using yum.
It is documented herehttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq

-Jayakrishnan

   


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Re: upgrading to Fedora 11 (x86_64) problem

2009-08-19 Thread Atsuko Crum

Thank you for your information.

None of Fedora 11 packages are installed when I tried to upgrade 
yesterday. The Fedora 10 installation is intact except the grub 
installation. That is what I expected because the last screen was 
displayed immediately after I chose "update boot leader configuration".


I used this DVD image to upgrade HP Proliant successfully. So anaconda 
skipped the whole upgrading process on this server puzzled me.


I am thinking about trying to upgrade using yum when I have a chance.

Atsuko


On 08/19/2009 12:05 PM, gary artim wrote:

I've used the dvd to update, finishes successfully and still the
kernel and yum still point to fc10.
Seem after the packages are all installed the system runs the
cleanup/alter scripts and sometimes
it works and sometimes not.

alt+cntl+F2 and cat the /boot/grub/grub.conf shows no change and top
shows little going
on..

Yesterday and redid the install with preupgrade-cli and did the above
and the grub list was
fixed up and all worked.

I also have updated using just yum.

Note that sometimes yum works fine, after upgrading and sometimes not.
Sometime the yum packages are
installed correctly or ? -- I that case -- I've done the following:

(as root)
mount /dev/sr0 /mnt&&  cd /mnt/packages&&  rpm --nodeps -e yum
yum-util&&  rpm -Uvh yum- yum-util-...
(be careful using rpm, note the --nodep  --- be sure to ___backup___
before you do any of this)

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Atsuko Crum  wrote:
   

Hi All,

I tried to upgrade Dell Precision T3400 to Fedora 11 from Fedora 10, but the
upgrade failed.

After anaconda booted and got all needed information (soon after I chose
what I would like to do with grub), the program skipped the whole upgrading
process and quickly displayed the last screen "Upgrading is successful". I
tried a couple more times, but the same thing happened. System still boots
Fedora 10 OK, though I needed to re-install grub because anaconda messed it
up.

I used this DVD for upgrading another machine, so the DVD image should be
burned OK. Probably the installation program has some bugs but they affect
specifically this hardware (Dell Precision T3400).

Does anyone have the same issue? Or better yet, does anyone know a
workaround for this problem?

Thank you.


Atsuko Crum

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Re: installation of fedora 11

2009-08-19 Thread Markku Kolkka
shreyas m kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika keskiviikko, 19. 
elokuuta 2009):
> i have downloaded fedora 11 from this page
> http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora i suppose its correct
> and written it into a bootable disc

Exactly how did you write the .iso to a disc? Which OS and which 
burning software did you use? Did you do something to the .iso 
file before burning? What functions/options of the burning 
software did you use. Be as specific as possible. Read this 
document: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html 
before responding.

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Re: Firefox

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick Dupre

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 17:31 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

In Fedora 11 x86_64, firefox (3.5.2) makes tons of swapping 

  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id
wa st
  3  1 396640 205012   4076 2958567681376   58 10  2 87


This is meaningless without further explanation. I for one can't even
tell what command you used to generate it. If you want people to comment
you should explain what's going on (e.g. what are you *doing* with
Firefox and how much memory does your machine have?)


OK,

I guess that I could give more relevant information if I can get a way
to send you the output of htop !

Thank.

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Re: quotas on nfs share

2009-08-19 Thread Aldo Foot
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
<...snip...>
> If you want to edit quotas remotely, you have to use the -r option to
> edquota.  This also requires adding the -S option to the rpc.rquotad
> call (in /etc/sysconfig/nfs on Fedora), but only works in rpc.rquotad
> was compiled with that support; the version in F9 and F10 was not, but
> F11 includes this support.

I wanted to report back on this.

>From my f11 box I tested using 'edquota -r' and it does see the nfs export
with quotas in it. I tried to edit quotas by entering numbers, but I cannot
save the changes because, unfortunately, my Centos 5.3 server does not
support the -S option to rpc.quotad, even tough the rquotad man page explicitly
mentions the "-S, --setquota" options.
I modified the CentOS server /etc/sysconfig/nfs options, but rquotad does
not like -S.

The CentOS server log registers the setquota problem.
   "rpc.rquotad: host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx attempted to call setquota when disabled"

I'll be asking about this in the CentOS mailing list. If anyone here knows
about the subject, please share.

~af

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Atheros wireless card

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Lesterhuis
I had a wireless card (Atheros AR242x802abg) running on f10. It worked 
well with the ath5k driver.

Suddenly it stopped working, I don't know why, perhaps after an update.
I upgraded the system to f11. The wireless card is still not working.
I googled and found out that I am not the only person who is having this 
problem. I did not find any solutions.

Is there anyone who managed to get the card working on f11?
At http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k#supported_chips I 
cannot find my AR242x802abg chipset. Does this mean it is no longer 
supported?

Peter
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Re: hplip

2009-08-19 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 21:03 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> OK, but is was working with the version 3.9.6b !

Patrick, are you using Fedora packages now, or downloading and compiling
HPLIP yourself?

Tim.
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Re: Atheros wireless card

2009-08-19 Thread dariusz rojewski
2009/8/19 Peter Lesterhuis 

>  I had a wireless card (Atheros AR242x802abg) running on f10. It worked
> well with the ath5k driver.
> Suddenly it stopped working, I don't know why, perhaps after an update.
> I upgraded the system to f11. The wireless card is still not working.
> I googled and found out that I am not the only person who is having this
> problem. I did not find any solutions.
> Is there anyone who managed to get the card working on f11?
> At http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k#supported_chips I
> cannot find my AR242x802abg chipset. Does this mean it is no longer
> supported?
> Peter
>


Hello,

i use Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg
Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) (on fedora 11) and it works without
any problems (with ath5x module). Try madwifi? Card works on pld,
opensuse,centos (i had same problem on ubuntu,knopix as i remember).

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Re: DVD Source Plugin

2009-08-19 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
 Hello,

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Patrick
O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 15:36 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>   When I try to play a movie DVD with Movie Player, it correctly
>> identifies the title of the movie, but when I try to play it, it says
>> "The playback of this movie requires a DVD source plugin which is not
>> installed."
>>
>>   Is there such a plugin in the Fedora repository? Or what are the
>> options? Thanks!
>
> Do you have libdvdcss? If not, install from the Livna repo.

  I installed it from atrpms and rebooted and still get the same error message.

 Take care
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Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !

2009-08-19 Thread g
Tim wrote:

> There is something somewhat unnerving about standing next to huge 
> generators.  Whether it's an awareness of the power being generated, or 
> just the sheer force of what's going on inside the casing you're right 
> next to, I couldn't say.  But you sure get the feeling that you should
> keep your distance and don't touch.

like maybe because you know that it could 'crisp your critters'?

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Re: Could not find kernel image: linux( error)

2009-08-19 Thread suvayu ali
2009/8/18 Michael Wright :
> I burn  fedora 11 to cd but i  when i reboot windows to load fedora i got
> this message Could not find kernel image then boot:
>
> what did i do wrong
>

AFAIR from your previous thread, you downloaded the CD images for F11.
Now my dumb question, are you sure you are booting with the _first_ CD
and not any of the others?

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Re: Firefox

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 22:40 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 17:31 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> In Fedora 11 x86_64, firefox (3.5.2) makes tons of swapping 
> >>
> >>   r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id
> >> wa st
> >>   3  1 396640 205012   4076 2958567681376   58 10  2 87
> >
> > This is meaningless without further explanation. I for one can't even
> > tell what command you used to generate it. If you want people to comment
> > you should explain what's going on (e.g. what are you *doing* with
> > Firefox and how much memory does your machine have?)
> >
> OK,
> 
> I guess that I could give more relevant information if I can get a way
> to send you the output of htop !

You don't need htop to say what pages FF has open, whether any of them
use Flash or Java, what extensions (add-ons) are active, or how much
physical memory your machine has. In fact the first few lines of 'top'
would give some useful info, e.g. first with FF running and then after
FF quits, keeping everything else the same, using:

$ top|head > file

poc

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Re: DVD Source Plugin

2009-08-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 18:24 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Patrick
> O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 15:36 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>   When I try to play a movie DVD with Movie Player, it correctly
> >> identifies the title of the movie, but when I try to play it, it says
> >> "The playback of this movie requires a DVD source plugin which is not
> >> installed."
> >>
> >>   Is there such a plugin in the Fedora repository? Or what are the
> >> options? Thanks!
> >
> > Do you have libdvdcss? If not, install from the Livna repo.
> 
>   I installed it from atrpms and rebooted and still get the same error 
> message.

You didn't need to reboot. Anyway, is this a commercial DVD or some
strange rip you downloaded? Note that some of these are designed to run
only on Windows and often contain spyware.

Have you tried other players, such as Dragon or VLC?

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Re: quotas on nfs share

2009-08-19 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Aldo Foot  said:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> <...snip...>
> > If you want to edit quotas remotely, you have to use the -r option to
> > edquota.  This also requires adding the -S option to the rpc.rquotad
> > call (in /etc/sysconfig/nfs on Fedora), but only works in rpc.rquotad
> > was compiled with that support; the version in F9 and F10 was not, but
> > F11 includes this support.
> 
> I wanted to report back on this.
> 
> >From my f11 box I tested using 'edquota -r' and it does see the nfs export
> with quotas in it. I tried to edit quotas by entering numbers, but I cannot
> save the changes because, unfortunately, my Centos 5.3 server does not
> support the -S option to rpc.quotad, even tough the rquotad man page 
> explicitly
> mentions the "-S, --setquota" options.
> I modified the CentOS server /etc/sysconfig/nfs options, but rquotad does
> not like -S.

Since CentOS is based on RHEL, the newest RHEL is RHEL 5, RHEL 5 is
based on FC6, and this option wasn't enabled in Fedora until F11 (hey, I
can chain logic :-) ), I'm not suprised it isn't enabled in CentOS.

I believe CentOS tries to stay as close to RHEL as possible, so I
wouldn't expect them to change this unless Red Hat does.  I am kind of
suprised that Red Hat doesn't have this enabled though; there is a bug
request to have this changed:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469753

Another bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497013

it is stated that this will not change for RHEL 5.  Maybe this will
change for RHEL 6 (since it is now enabled in F11).
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