Re: Firefox 3.5.3 can only print to file.

[Tim Waugh]

On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 14:01 -0400, NoSpaze wrote:
> That was also my logic. But they do turn disabled after uninstall
> gnome-packagekit/reboot -altough visible, you are right at that point-.
> I could enable them only after reinstalling system-config-printer. 

The print queues themselves are disabled, but visible in the Firefox
print dialog?

So it isn't a Firefox-specific problem then?

A queue being "enabled" or "disabled" does not have anything to do with
whether you can print to it -- that's "accepting"/"rejecting".
"Enabled"/"disabled" is whether jobs submitted to the queue are being
printed or just left in the queue.

Can you explain more what you mean when you say the queued "turn
disabled...although visible"?

Tim.
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Re: Why update Swahili?

[Andras Simon]

On 9/23/09, gil...@altern.org  wrote:
>> gil...@altern.org wrote:
> Those packages provide contributed multilingualization (m17n) input
> maps
> for... whatever the language.
 If you don't need them, just say
 yum erase m17n\*
>>>
>>> Yeah, I suppose with yum they wouldn't come back. But what is the
>>> backslash for? Can't find any backslash in the yum man page.
>>>
>>
>> The backslash is to prevent the shell from expanding the asterisk and
>> passing on the asterisk to yum literally. Its called escaping a special
>> character. Try looking for escaping characters in the bash man page.
>
> So, if I write
>
> rm m17n*
>
> it will remove all instances of m17n...
>
> but, because yum is not a bash command, the * has to be escaped?

No. Neither are bash commands, but you issue them in a shell (which,
in your case, is probably bash). Since the shell sees your command and
its arguments first, it can and does manipulate them. One thing it
does with them is expand special characters, such as * and ?; so
unless you escape those, yum or rm will never see them, only the
result(s) of the expansion. 'rm *' will remove all files in the
current directory, but 'rm \*' will only remove the one whose name is
'*'. See any intro to unix in general and shells in particular.

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Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

[Yaakov Nemoy]

2009/9/23 Tim :
> On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 11:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> I won't personally touch those sites with a 10 foot piece of cat5.
>
> Hmm, I would have thought that whipping them with a cat-o-five tails
> would be the proper way to deal with them...  ;-)

I'm with you on that one, but i suppose that's why i don't moderate MLs.

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What development rpm am I missing?

[Robert Moskowitz]

I have an AMAHI server (amahi.org) that runs on FC10.

I am trying to execute a simple script that includes:

function correct {
echo
echo 'Is this correct (1=Yes,0=No): '
read answer
}
correct

But this fails with:

./test1
'/test1: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `{
'/test1: line 1: `function correct {

But this little snippit runs fine on my notebook, ergo I am missing some 
important little rpm.  I would like to add as little as needed, as this 
is suppose to be a production system, but then again simple script 
elements like this SHOULD work.


Or is it an environment problem?


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Re: Why update Swahili?

[Timothy Murphy]

gil...@altern.org wrote:

 If you don't need them, just say
 yum erase m17n\*
>>>
>>> Yeah, I suppose with yum they wouldn't come back. But what is the
>>> backslash for? Can't find any backslash in the yum man page.
>>
>> The backslash is to prevent the shell from expanding the asterisk and
>> passing on the asterisk to yum literally. Its called escaping a special
>> character. Try looking for escaping characters in the bash man page.
> 
> So, if I write
> 
> rm m17n*
> 
> it will remove all instances of m17n...
> 
> but, because yum is not a bash command, the * has to be escaped?

I may be wrong - if so, I hope I will be corrected -
but I don't think you _have_ to escape the *.

It is just that if you don't do that,
and there happens to be a file m17n... in the current directory
it will assume you mean that.
If there is no such file "yum ... m17n*" will work fine.

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Re: What development rpm am I missing?

[Mogens Kjaer]

On 09/23/2009 01:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

'/test1: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `{


Starting the script with

#!/bin/bash

might be a good idea.

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Re: What development rpm am I missing?

[Robert Moskowitz]

Mogens Kjaer wrote:

On 09/23/2009 01:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

'/test1: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `{


Starting the script with

#!/bin/bash

might be a good idea. 


I used vi to insert this line and I get:

./test1
-bash: ./test1: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory

I don't see that control M in vi or gedit...


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Re: What development rpm am I missing?

[Mogens Kjaer]

On 09/23/2009 02:02 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

^M


The file is in dos format, with crlf line termination.

Open the file in vi and do:

:set ff=unix

and save the file again.

Mogens

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Re: What development rpm am I missing?

[Christopher K. Johnson]

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Mogens Kjaer wrote:

On 09/23/2009 01:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

'/test1: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `{


Starting the script with

#!/bin/bash

might be a good idea. 


I used vi to insert this line and I get:

./test1
-bash: ./test1: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory

I don't see that control M in vi or gedit...



vi -b test1

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Re: What development rpm am I missing?

[Robert Moskowitz]

Mogens Kjaer wrote:

On 09/23/2009 02:02 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

^M


The file is in dos format, with crlf line termination.

Open the file in vi and do:

:set ff=unix

and save the file again. 


This file was created by pulling out part of a script that was failing 
by  in gedit and 'cat > test1' in a terminal window. And vi was 
run in a terminal window adding the bash line.


So it seems like there is an environment setup problem on this system, 
setting it up for DOS default rather than unix?


Now I could almost understand this, as the AMAHI server is designed as a 
SAMBA replacement for NT servers and the like... ???



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Re: What development rpm am I missing?

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 08:02 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Mogens Kjaer wrote:
> > On 09/23/2009 01:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >> '/test1: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `{
> >
> > Starting the script with
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> >
> > might be a good idea. 
> 
> I used vi to insert this line and I get:
> 
> ./test1
> -bash: ./test1: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
> 
> I don't see that control M in vi or gedit...

control characters are invisible unless the software has a provision to
make invisible characters visible (something like OOo can do).

adding a (^M) Control-M to each line ending is something a Macintosh
would normally do. When in doubt, you can always use 'od' command to
tell you exactly what is in a file, byte by byte.

You can 'fix' the line endings in any file using 'dos2unix' command.
Type 'dos2unix --help' to get the syntax.

Craig  


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Re: latest F11 64-bit Firefox unstable for me

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 02:57:37AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> Firefox has always been a bit unstable for me.  It used to crash once
> a week or so.  Usually this bug:
>   http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21583
> 
> I admit that I use a lot of windows and tabs.
> 
> In the last few days, firefox has started to crash once a day or so.
> You can see this by the timestamps on my core files:
> -rw---. 1 hugh hugh 1669668864 2009-09-12 02:17 core.2981
> -rw---. 1 hugh hugh 1280552960 2009-09-20 14:23 core.2978
> -rw---. 1 hugh hugh 1408999424 2009-09-21 15:33 core.12617
> -rw---. 1 hugh hugh 1408507904 2009-09-22 17:54 core.5627
> Nice and big, eh?
> 
> These recent crashes are signal 11's -- segfaults.  This is new to me.
> 
> This firefox was installed September 16.  I'm not sure why it started
> crashing.  Maybe a particular web page that I have open.
> 
> Anyone else notice a recent increase in firefox crashes?

If I can suggest something that was suggested to me, and has made a
big difference in my Firefox use (which also is lots of tabs, although
usually only one window):

#!/bin/bash
#
# Quick and easy scrubbing of the SQLite databases...
#
for i in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/*.sqlite ; do
  echo 'VACUUM;' | sqlite3 "$i"
done

Best to do this before opening Firefox (or while it's not running).
You could even build it into a wrapper script and call that, instead
of Firefox itself, from your panel icon.


> Oh, while I'm asking, any idea why firefox spews this on the console?
>  Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so: 
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> I get hundreds of them.

Darn it, I know I heard an explanation of why this happens, but I've
forgotten it now.  Safe to ignore but yes, annoying.  Maintainers know
of the problem and are working on it!

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Re: What development rpm am I missing?

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 07:35:41AM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I have an AMAHI server (amahi.org) that runs on FC10.
>
> I am trying to execute a simple script that includes:
>
> function correct {
> echo
> echo 'Is this correct (1=Yes,0=No): '
> read answer
> }
> correct
>
> But this fails with:
>
> ./test1
> '/test1: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `{
> '/test1: line 1: `function correct {
>
> But this little snippit runs fine on my notebook, ergo I am missing some  
> important little rpm.  I would like to add as little as needed, as this  
> is suppose to be a production system, but then again simple script  
> elements like this SHOULD work.
>
> Or is it an environment problem?

The problem could be in parsing what comes before the 'function
correct {' line.  If you can, paste the script at fpaste.org, and then
send a link to the list for further analysis.

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Re: What development rpm am I missing?

[Robert Moskowitz]

Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 07:35:41AM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  

I have an AMAHI server (amahi.org) that runs on FC10.

I am trying to execute a simple script that includes:

function correct {
echo
echo 'Is this correct (1=Yes,0=No): '
read answer
}
correct

But this fails with:

./test1
'/test1: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `{
'/test1: line 1: `function correct {

But this little snippit runs fine on my notebook, ergo I am missing some  
important little rpm.  I would like to add as little as needed, as this  
is suppose to be a production system, but then again simple script  
elements like this SHOULD work.


Or is it an environment problem?



The problem could be in parsing what comes before the 'function
correct {' line.  If you can, paste the script at fpaste.org, and then
send a link to the list for further analysis.


Turns out to be  s at the end of each line. Now I have to get the 
developer to figure out how he got these in the file and why it works on 
his system and not on mine



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Re: Running a Script- and debugging.

[Jim]

On 09/23/2009 12:11 AM, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 05:17:34PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
   

On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 15:46 -0400, Jim wrote:
 

Could someone give me a Ideal as to this part of a script would
hangup
script.
In FC11.

The hangup stops at;

cd 'dirname $0'
   

$0 is usually the name of the script itself, so 'dirname $0' is the
directory the script lives in. Changing to that directory shouldn't
normally cause a hang, unless for example the directory is NFS-mounted,
but without more information this is pure speculation.

 

Put some debugging in the script it is easy to make a copy.
We do not know what $0 is.

We could have changed directory as expected and the
next command is hanging ya out to dry.  What is
the next command.  Is there a "trap" that has taken
the script to someplace unexpected.

Also 'odd' things can happen if '.' and strange places
are in your PATH.   Are you running it as root via "su",
as root via "su -", as root via "sudo" or as yourself.

What is the first line.  Is this a sh, bash or csh script or something else.
Some flags may be passed,

To the copy add simple commands to get you some additional
information.

Ideas
$ cat bin/flubber
#!/bin/bash
pwd
echo foo
echo $0
dirname $0
cd 'dirname $0'
pwd

=
$ bin/flubber
/home/mydir
foo
bin/flubber
bin
bin/flubber: line 6: cd: dirname $0: No such file or directory
/home/mydir

=
If it "hangs" you might run it with "strace -f -o /tmp/tracelogfile script"

=
I do recall a bug fix going into bash that fixes a standards correctness
problem but has side effects because is it not "bug" compatable.
You can grab an OLDer version of bash and install it in a SAFE place
with rpm and try it.  I just do not recall the details and they do
not matter -- it is easy to test for.  It is also easy to look at the
change log for the bash rpm and read the bug reports.  Use rpm or yum,
Example using rpm:
  # which bash
  # rpm -qf /bin/bash
  # rpm -qi bash
  # rpm -q --changelog bash



   

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Questionable Status

[Gene Poole]

I've very recently upgraded 2 of my machines.  One machine was upgraded 
from Fedora 9 to Fedora 11, and the other machine was upgraded from Fedora 
10 to Fedora 11.  On machine 1 I have 2-hard disks (both Seagate's - 500 
GB and 1000 GB), on machine 2 I have 1-hard disk (Western Digital 320 GB). 
All of the interfaces are SATA.  The questionable status is that on 
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GB drive is showing as failing. Neither drive, under the old releases, 
showed up as failing. How do I know that these drive are truly failing?

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Re: custom ICMP message in iptables

[Tim]

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 12:29 +0530, Jatin K wrote:
> I'm wondering that, is there any method to add custom ICMP message to 
> iptables 

Not sure about that, but you can block some of the *types* of messages
that will be sent to certain addresses (or from certain addresses).  So,
instead of when they'd normally get a denial message from you, they'll
get no response from you, and *their* side will report as being unable
to do something.

But, to be honest, I've never believed the paranoia behind the reasons
commonly offered for blocking pings.

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Re: Questionable Status

[Jussi Lehtola]

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 09:29 -0400, Gene Poole wrote:
> I've very recently upgraded 2 of my machines.  One machine was
> upgraded from Fedora 9 to Fedora 11, and the other machine was
> upgraded from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11.  On machine 1 I have 2-hard
> disks (both Seagate's - 500 GB and 1000 GB), on machine 2 I have
> 1-hard disk (Western Digital 320 GB). All of the interfaces are SATA.
>  The questionable status is that on machine 1 the 500 GB drive is
> showing as failing and on machine 2 the 320 GB drive is showing as
> failing. Neither drive, under the old releases, showed up as failing.
> How do I know that these drive are truly failing? 

That's because older distributions didn't have automatically enabled
disk health monitoring GUI software. Fedora 11 does.

The health monitor reads the SMART data of the disks. This is not a
software questions, the hard drives report that they are failing.

You can read the raw SMART data with
# smartctl -A /dev/sda
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Re: Fwd: Re: Understanding Local Networking - Thanks, so far....

[Tim]

On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 21:14 +0200, DB wrote:
> As there are so many "things" automatically installed in/by Fedora, I
> just sort of assumed that when I set a local hostname & then let NM do
> its stuff, that 'magically' the IP address & the hostname would be
> linked together "somewhere in a (cyber-)galaxy far, far away"
> Wrong

I think that *during* the install process, a hostname may be written to
your /etc/hosts file putting your machine name in at that time, but I
don't think the file will be managed for you post-installation.

> I now see that there are all sorts of doodads involved & from my quick
> read of various articles & how-tos , there doesn't appear to be a
> script/wizard to set all of them up properly.

It's a fair assumption that if a DHCP server has given you address, then
there ought to be a fully working remote address assignment that the
DHCP-supplied DNS servers can answer queries about.  And if you're doing
manual addressing, that you'll set all the right things yourself.

My system has a local DHCP + DNS server, and things just work.  The
clients don't need any manual address configuration.

> To try & answer your point about what am I trying to do As I said
> in the original thread, I have a desktop & a laptop, both running F11,
> plus my wife's XP machine; all cable connected via a D-Link box to the
> ISP's box.  I'd like to be able to keep the "Home" partition of the
> F11 machines in sync, so that when I go travelling I know that the
> lappy has an up-to-date- copy of everything I've been messing with.
> Up till now I've used Stick-net to copy over the things I remember.
> Then there are the external drives attached to the Desktop & the
> printer, which I'd like to access from all 3 machines - "Her Indoors"
> expects to have her photos etc. printed "instantly, if not
> faster"..  From the descriptions, Samba seemed like the way to
> go

If you need file access over Windows and Linux, then Samba is the usual
solution.  If the file access is only between Linux boxes, then NFS is
the usual solution.  SMB/CIFS (the protocols Samba uses) can be cranky
on Windows, where name resolution isn't working, and when machines join
the network (they have an election for who gets to be top dog, and it
seems to be done like a dog fight - bloody with a slow recovery period).

Samba can also be used for printing, but I never got that to work.  I
just used IPP directly between print server and remote boxes (Internet
Printing Protocol using HTTP).  Windows could print to a CUPS server,
that way, either by sending it PostScript to print, or pre-rendered data
for that model printer using a local driver and a raw queue on the CUPS
server (one that passes on pre-rendered data, rather than tries to
render PostScript to the printer's native language).

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Re: Running a Script- and debugging.

[Jim]

On 09/23/2009 09:19 AM, Jim wrote:

On 09/23/2009 12:11 AM, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 05:17:34PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 15:46 -0400, Jim wrote:

Could someone give me a Ideal as to this part of a script would
hangup
script.
In FC11.

The hangup stops at;

cd 'dirname $0'

$0 is usually the name of the script itself, so 'dirname $0' is the
directory the script lives in. Changing to that directory shouldn't
normally cause a hang, unless for example the directory is NFS-mounted,
but without more information this is pure speculation.


Put some debugging in the script it is easy to make a copy.
We do not know what $0 is.

We could have changed directory as expected and the
next command is hanging ya out to dry.  What is
the next command.  Is there a "trap" that has taken
the script to someplace unexpected.

Also 'odd' things can happen if '.' and strange places
are in your PATH.   Are you running it as root via "su",
as root via "su -", as root via "sudo" or as yourself.

What is the first line.  Is this a sh, bash or csh script or 
something else.

Some flags may be passed,

To the copy add simple commands to get you some additional
information.

Ideas
$ cat bin/flubber
#!/bin/bash
pwd
echo foo
echo $0
dirname $0
cd 'dirname $0'
pwd

=
$ bin/flubber
/home/mydir
foo
bin/flubber
bin
bin/flubber: line 6: cd: dirname $0: No such file or directory
/home/mydir

=
If it "hangs" you might run it with "strace -f -o /tmp/tracelogfile 
script"


=
I do recall a bug fix going into bash that fixes a standards correctness
problem but has side effects because is it not "bug" compatable.
You can grab an OLDer version of bash and install it in a SAFE place
with rpm and try it.  I just do not recall the details and they do
not matter -- it is easy to test for.  It is also easy to look at the
change log for the bash rpm and read the bug reports.  Use rpm or yum,
Example using rpm:
  # which bash
  # rpm -qf /bin/bash
  # rpm -qi bash
  # rpm -q --changelog bash




Mitch you DID IT !!  su - instead of su


Thanks guys, for all your help, I couldn't have done without it.
This Samsung CLX3175FN is one nice printer , it even checks the ink levels.
Now I'm having problems with Cups and the printer with connecting after 
driver setup. - SU  verses SU did the the trick.

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Re: custom ICMP message in iptables

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:29:46 +0530,
  Jatin K  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>
> I'm wondering that, is there any method to add custom ICMP message to  
> iptables ... e.g  say I block Echo Request (ping) through  
> system-config-firewall, other systems on my network cannot ping my  
> system ...  but on on the system from where I try to ping .. it shows  
> message like  [1]
>
> [1] From xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx icmp_seq=xxx Destination Host Prohibited
>  From xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx icmp_seq=xxx Destination Host Prohibited
>  From xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx icmp_seq=xxx Destination Host Prohibited
>  From xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx icmp_seq=xxx Destination Host Prohibited

--reject-with icmp-host-prohibited

This information is covered in the man page.

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Re: Your system is too slow

[Robin Laing]

Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote:


On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote:



On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, john wendel wrote:


On 09/19/2009 07:17 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:






Eventually I did a cntrl-alt-F2 to get a console,
logged in as root and did a yum erase kmod-nvidia-PAE .
Rebooting still failed.
On my next attempt, I picked the second option on the grub menu.
This time, rebooting worked.

Apparently, if I want a system that's not too slow and can play
flash without mplayer hanging, I'll need to go back to F10.
I certainly don't want to go through that mess again.

Gawd I hate it when things just don't work.




I have noticed that mplayer says this for almost all the videos that I 
play on F11.  They play well on F10 and in VLC on F11.  I am wondering 
if it is an mplayer fault and thus for discussion om rpmfusion's list.


I do notice that in F11, my system disk access seams to just hang for a 
second in many different programs.  It has really become an issue since 
I have started to stream video to my PS3.


Thinking as I write this, I find that every time I run mplayer on my 
home machine (F11) the video doesn't start right away.  Yet in F10, it 
starts right away using the same video.  This is when mplayer will say 
that my system is to slow.  The only difference between the machines is 
I am running RAID 1 at home.


It is on my to-do list to look into this.

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Re: custom ICMP message in iptables

[Robert Nichols]

Jatin K wrote:

Dear all,


I'm wondering that, is there any method to add custom ICMP message to 
iptables ... e.g  say I block Echo Request (ping) through 
system-config-firewall, other systems on my network cannot ping my 
system ...  but on on the system from where I try to ping .. it shows 
message like  [1]


[1] From xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx icmp_seq=xxx Destination Host Prohibited

problem is that anyone can determine that my system is alive and icmp 
request is blocked



instead  of this I want like this [2]

[2]  From xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx icmp_seq=xxx Destination Host *Unreachable *


Sure, you can add "--reject-with icmp-host-unreachable" to that rule.
Of course the ICMP packet you send will have a source IP address of
the machine that the packet claims is unreachable, and that just
screams, "This system is run by an incompetent doofus who is trying
to claim his machine doesn't exist."

You can also just use the DROP target instead of REJECT.  That also
makes it apparent that there is a machine here that is trying hard
not to be seen, since if it really didn't exist the upstream router
would have responded with icmp-{host|network}-unreachable.

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Re: Your system is too slow

[Michael Hennebry]

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Robin Laing wrote:


Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote:


On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote:



On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, john wendel wrote:


On 09/19/2009 07:17 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:






Eventually I did a cntrl-alt-F2 to get a console,
logged in as root and did a yum erase kmod-nvidia-PAE .
Rebooting still failed.
On my next attempt, I picked the second option on the grub menu.
This time, rebooting worked.

Apparently, if I want a system that's not too slow and can play
flash without mplayer hanging, I'll need to go back to F10.


I'd meant F9.  I'd never used F10.
I don't reinstall more often than I have to.
Something always goes wrong and I spend few
days or weeks wanting to kill someting.


I certainly don't want to go through that mess again.

Gawd I hate it when things just don't work.




I have noticed that mplayer says this for almost all the videos that I play 
on F11.  They play well on F10 and in VLC on F11.  I am wondering if it is an 
mplayer fault and thus for discussion om rpmfusion's list.


In my case, the statement is preceeded by crappy video,

I do notice that in F11, my system disk access seams to just hang for a 
second in many different programs.  It has really become an issue since I 
have started to stream video to my PS3.


Thinking as I write this, I find that every time I run mplayer on my home 
machine (F11) the video doesn't start right away.  Yet in F10, it starts 
right away using the same video.  This is when mplayer will say that my 
system is to slow.  The only difference between the machines is I am running 
RAID 1 at home.


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saslauthd issue with F11

[Luc MAIGNAN]

Hi all,

previously I had a F8 mail server on which saslauthd daemon as smtp 
authentication checker. And all has worked fine...


I migrate my server to F11, and I have problems with saslauthd. After a 
while (perhaps 2 days), authentication fails but the daemon still run. I 
have to 'killall saslauthd' and then restart it.

It is very heavy because mail users aren't able to send mails.


Has anyone an idea ?


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Re: Questionable Status

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:38:10 +0300
Jussi Lehtola wrote:

> That's because older distributions didn't have automatically enabled
> disk health monitoring GUI software. Fedora 11 does.

At risk of asking a stupid question, where does it provide that monitoring?

I haven't seen anything about SMART on any of my Fedora desktops; what am I
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Fedora 11 Mouse and Xorg

[Dennis Mattingly]

Hello,
I've been using Fedora 11 for months, and love it.

I've recently had issues with my PS2 mouse.
Sometimes it stops working, and other times is weird.
So I have a few questions:

How can I find out what's wrong with my mouse?
I unplugged it / reconnected it, and the mouse stopped going "up & down" for
over a week.

How can I check / post Xorg log files for review?
Mouse just started randomly working fine again, I haven't rebooted.
So I want to post log stuff.

Thanks for the help

Backstory::
A) Original mouse
My original / good mouse was eaten by my pet rabbit.

B) Old mouse from friend
Stats: Std 3-button, PS2 connection, Optical mouse
Worked fine, but eventually had the "always double-click" bug.
I would single click, and files would open, text would highlight, GIMP,
Office, Firefox, etc...
So I fed that one to my rabbit too.

C) Brand new mouse, but from an obscure 3rd party
Stats: Std 3-button, PS2 connection, Optical mouse
Worked fine, but then I unplug / replug mouse.
For next week, mouse does not go up and down.
And just 5 minutes ago, while surfing internet, mouse magic fixes itself.

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Re: Fedora 11 Mouse and Xorg

[Tim]

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 12:10 -0400, Dennis Mattingly wrote:
> I've recently had issues with my PS2 mouse.

Three different mice with problems sounds like you might have a bad
controller on the computer.  PS/2 devices aren't supposed to be plugged
in and out while the device is running, you can easily destroy them by
doing that.

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Re: Questionable Status

[Tim]

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 10:05 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> At risk of asking a stupid question, where does it provide that
> monitoring?
>  
> I haven't seen anything about SMART on any of my Fedora desktops; what
> am I missing?

A daemon that's started at boot time, reports going into the usual daily
report emailed to the root user.

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Re: Questionable Status

[Michael Cronenworth]

Tim on 09/23/2009 11:25 AM wrote:
> 
> A daemon that's started at boot time, reports going into the usual daily
> report emailed to the root user.
> 

For a good majority of Fedora desktop users, that root mail is never read.

DeviceKit provides some SMART notification now IIRC starting in F11.
palimpset (gnome-disk-utility) also provides some extended SMART tools.

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Re: root e-mail (Was Questionable Status)

[Mikkel]

Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> 
> For a good majority of Fedora desktop users, that root mail is never read.
> 
This is not good. Maybe a modification of the install procedure to
set an alias so that all mail goes to the first normal user that is
set up? Or an option to do this as part of the install? What do you
think?

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Re: root e-mail (Was Questionable Status)

[Michael Cronenworth]

Mikkel on 09/23/2009 11:49 AM wrote:
> This is not good. Maybe a modification of the install procedure to
> set an alias so that all mail goes to the first normal user that is
> set up? Or an option to do this as part of the install? What do you
> think?
> 

This is going off-topic of the OP, but this topic is always discussed
around Alpha time every 6 months. Nothing ever comes out of the
discussions. Feel free to open a bug or provide patches.

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Re: root e-mail (Was Questionable Status)

[Todd Zullinger]

Mikkel wrote:
> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>>
>> For a good majority of Fedora desktop users, that root mail is
>> never read.
>>
> This is not good. Maybe a modification of the install procedure to
> set an alias so that all mail goes to the first normal user that is
> set up? Or an option to do this as part of the install? What do you
> think?

This only helps if users read local mail, which I doubt is much more
likely than reading root's mail spool.  For desktop installs, there is
a proposed feature to not install any MTA by default and send all cron
output and other things that are currenly mailed to root to logfiles
instead.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoMTA

For the typical desktop user this will probably be about the same as
now.  Instead of having unread messages in /var/spool/mail/root,
they'll be in /var/log/*. :)

For those of use acustomed to having an MTA installed and sending
root's mail somewhere it is read, it will just be a matter of
installing the MTA of our choice.  (Which for me would be slightly
simpler, as I wouldn't have to handle removing sendmail and replacing
it with postfix.)

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Re: root e-mail (Was Questionable Status)

[Tim]

Michael Cronenworth:
>> For a good majority of Fedora desktop users, that root mail is never read.

Mikkel:
> This is not good. Maybe a modification of the install procedure to
> set an alias so that all mail goes to the first normal user that is
> set up? Or an option to do this as part of the install? What do you
> think?

I seem to recall, years ago, that the install routine arranged this with
a "Who should receive root's mail?" question.  Though, that still leaves
a problem with users who never check any local mail.

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Re: Questionable Status

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:05:26 -0600,
  Frank Cox  wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:38:10 +0300
> Jussi Lehtola wrote:
> 
> > That's because older distributions didn't have automatically enabled
> > disk health monitoring GUI software. Fedora 11 does.
> 
> At risk of asking a stupid question, where does it provide that monitoring?
> 
> I haven't seen anything about SMART on any of my Fedora desktops; what am I
> missing?

The package is smartmontools. The daemon name is smartd. It starts scheduled
tests based on the config file (/etc/smartd.conf).

You can also use smartctl to manually look at the current status or start
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Howto disable package-kit package list updates?

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi,

About once a day, packagekit starts on my laptop and updates its package-lists.
Beside the fact that this eats my traffic, I find it quite annoying
because starting yum usually means a LOT of disk IO slowing down my
system during that time.

Is there any way to disable package-kit updating its package-lists?

Thanks, Clemens

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Re: Howto disable package-kit package list updates?

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 09/23/2009 11:13 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> About once a day, packagekit starts on my laptop and updates its 
> package-lists.
> Beside the fact that this eats my traffic, I find it quite annoying
> because starting yum usually means a LOT of disk IO slowing down my
> system during that time.
> 
> Is there any way to disable package-kit updating its package-lists?

You didn't specify the desktop environment. Assuming it is GNOME, go to
System=> Preferences => Software Updates and change the "check for
updates" from daily to never.

Rahul

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Yum mirror

[davide]

Hi, how can I configure yum tu use only one server I choose and not 
select one among "the fastests" proposed by the fastest-mirror plugin??

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Re: Yum mirror

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 09/23/2009 11:26 PM, davide wrote:
> Hi, how can I configure yum tu use only one server I choose and not 
> select one among "the fastests" proposed by the fastest-mirror plugin??

Edit the repository file in /etc/yum.repos.d and point baseurl to the
particular mirror you want.

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VNC client recommendation for FC11?

[jack craig]

Hi Fedora List,

I need a vnc client to access a remote system; there are several options 
i have found so far, ...


are there any vnc clients that y'all recommend?

tia, jackc...

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RE: VNC client recommendation for FC11?

[Tait Clarridge]

> Hi Fedora List,
> 
> I need a vnc client to access a remote system; there are several options
> i have found so far, ...
> 
> are there any vnc clients that y'all recommend?
> 
> tia, jackc...

I would go with the default TigerVNC.. it hasn't failed me yet.

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Re: Questionable Status

[Michael Cronenworth]

Bruno Wolff III on 09/23/2009 12:36 PM wrote:
> 
> The package is smartmontools. The daemon name is smartd. It starts scheduled
> tests based on the config file (/etc/smartd.conf).
> 
> You can also use smartctl to manually look at the current status or start
> tests.
> 

The resulting daemon output is dumped into log files though. Not
something a typical desktop user expects to look. Sure you can run it
manually but the resulting output can look alien to a normal user. My
recommendation of gnome-disk-utility should be what he's looking for.

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Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 23 September 2009, Tim wrote:
>On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 11:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> I won't personally touch those sites with a 10 foot piece of cat5.
>
>Hmm, I would have thought that whipping them with a cat-o-five tails
>would be the proper way to deal with them...  ;-)
>
Miss count there Tim, that cat has 9 tails, each with a ball of barbed wire 
on the end. :)

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Re: VNC client recommendation for FC11?

[Michael Cronenworth]

jack craig on 09/23/2009 01:07 PM wrote:
> Hi Fedora List,
> 
> I need a vnc client to access a remote system; there are several options
> i have found so far, ...
> 
> are there any vnc clients that y'all recommend?
> 
> tia, jackc...
> 

yum install gnome-rdp

Front-end to all remote desktop oriented tools. Bookmarks, runs in
notification area, etc. You'll have a more enjoyable experience with
that than manually running one of the many VNC clients in Fedora.

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Re: Questionable Status

[Tony Nelson]

On 09-09-23 09:29:56, Gene Poole wrote:
> I've very recently upgraded 2 of my machines.  One machine was
> upgraded from Fedora 9 to Fedora 11, and the other machine was 
> upgraded from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11.  On machine 1 I have 2-hard 
> disks (both Seagate's - 500 GB and 1000 GB), on machine 2 I have 1-
> hard disk (Western Digital 320 GB).  All of the interfaces are SATA.  
> The questionable status is that on machine 1 the 500 GB drive is 
> showing as failing and on machine 2 the 20 GB drive is showing as 
> failing. Neither drive, under the old releases, showed up as failing. 
> How do I know that these drive are truly failing?

1) Wait.  If the disk is going bad, it will fail.

2) Run as root `smartctl -A /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) and look at the 
"WHEN_FAILED" column; it will be "-" if not failed.

3) Run as root `smartctl -a /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) and look at the 
whole output.

4) Run as root `smartctl -t long /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) and wait 
until the time the test should finish, then view the results with 
`smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) or `smartctl -a /dev/
sdx` (for each sdx).

See `man smartctl`.

Note that the new disk health monitoring tool "palimpsest" in package 
gnome-disk-utility is panicky and not to be trusted, unless you like 
buying lots of hard drives.  It doesn't just look at "WHEN_FAILED", but 
has its own criteria such as nonzero Reallocated_Event_Count, which is 
fairly normal for a modern drive that has been in use for a while.  A 
nonzero Current_Pending_Sector or Offline_Uncorrectable are bad, as 
they mean data loss, though not general drive failure.  I recommend 
enabling Automatic Offline Testing with `smartctl -o on /dev/sdx` (for 
each sdx), which will do a surface scan every few hours, giving the
best chance to repair or recover any sectors that are going bad.

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Re: Why update Swahili?

[Tony Nelson]

On 09-09-23 04:15:14, Andras Simon wrote:

> No. Neither are bash commands, but you issue them in a shell (which,
> in your case, is probably bash). Since the shell sees your command 
> and its arguments first, it can and does manipulate them. One thing 
> it does with them is

attempt to

> expand special characters, such as * and ?; so
> unless you escape those, yum or rm will never see them, only the
> result(s) of the expansion

, unless there was no match, in which case bash will pass on the "*",
making the yum command depend on the contents of the current directory
(see `man bash` "Pathname Expansion" and the various *glob options)

> . 'rm *' will remove all files in the
> current directory, but 'rm \*' will only remove the one whose name is
> '*'. See any intro to unix in general and shells in particular.



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Re: Question about installing the proprietary nvidia drivers with RPMFusion

[Hugh Caley]

Thanks, Richard, I did not have those entries in xorg.conf.  Seems to 
work.   I wonder why I didn't get that?


Hugh

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:08:05 -0500 From: Richard Shaw 
 Subject: Re: Question about installing the 
proprietary nvidia drivers with RPMFusion To: "Community assistance, 
encouragement, and advice for using Fedora."  
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 
7:46 PM, Hugh Caley  wrote:

>  So I am using the proprietary nvidia drivers for my nvidia 6200 as provided
>  by the RPMfusion distro and kmod.  Works fine.  However, evidently the
>  nvidia card/system wants to use it's own version of libglx.so, which is
>  located at
>
>  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so
>
>  x11 wants to used a libglx.so located at
>
>  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
>
>  Couldn't get glx working unless I created the symlink
>
>  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so-->nvidia/libglx.so
>
>  which is cool, although it took me a while to figure it out.
>
>  Today I installed a couple of updates to xorg-x11:
>
 

>>  xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.4-0.1.fc11   Tue 22 Sep 2009 05:33:21 PM
>>  PDT
>>  xorg-x11-server-common-1.6.4-0.1.fc11 Tue 22 Sep 2009 05:33:20 PM
>>  PDT
   

>
>  one of which overwrote my symlink with a new version of libglx.so, and I had
>  to rename it and put in a new symlink.
>
>  Am I doing this right?  It seems a little unstable.
 

I'm not sure if this would fix it but I use the same driver but my
xorg.conf has the following section which I assume gets it to load the
nvidia version instead of the xorg version:

Section "Files"
ModulePath   "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia"
ModulePath   "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
EndSection


Does you're xorg.conf have something similar?

Richard

   


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enable / configure php to use the GD library

[Kevin Kempter]

Hi all;

I want to setup my php install to have access to GD.

GD seems to be installed in /usr/local/bin

and I did install php-gd however if I access the below code in a tst.php file I 
only see the "hello"



hello







Thoughts?


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Re: enable / configure php to use the GD library

[Phil Meyer]

On 09/23/2009 01:40 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote:

Hi all;

I want to setup my php install to have access to GD.

GD seems to be installed in /usr/local/bin

and I did install php-gd however if I access the below code in a tst.php file I
only see the "hello"



hello







Thoughts?


Thanks in advance

   


yum install php-gd

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Re: enable / configure php to use the GD library

[Phil Meyer]

On 09/23/2009 01:40 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote:

Hi all;

I want to setup my php install to have access to GD.

GD seems to be installed in /usr/local/bin

and I did install php-gd however if I access the below code in a tst.php file I
only see the "hello"



hello




   


mis-read, sorry.

Did you restart the web server AFTER installing php-gd?

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Re: enable / configure php to use the GD library (SOLVED)

[Kevin Kempter]

On Wednesday 23 September 2009 13:44:32 Phil Meyer wrote:
> On 09/23/2009 01:40 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> > Hi all;
> >
> > I want to setup my php install to have access to GD.
> >
> > GD seems to be installed in /usr/local/bin
> >
> > and I did install php-gd however if I access the below code in a tst.php
> > file I only see the "hello"
> >
> >
> >
> > hello
> >
> >  > var_dump(gd_info());
> > ?>
> 
> mis-read, sorry.
> 
> Did you restart the web server AFTER installing php-gd?
> 

Turns out it was a PATH issue. I added /usr/local/bin to the path in 
/etc/profile and it works

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Re: Fwd: Re: Understanding Local Networking - Thanks, so far....

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 23:16 +0930, Tim wrote:
> If you need file access over Windows and Linux, then Samba is the
> usual
> solution.  If the file access is only between Linux boxes, then NFS is
> the usual solution.  SMB/CIFS (the protocols Samba uses) can be cranky
> on Windows, where name resolution isn't working, and when machines
> join
> the network (they have an election for who gets to be top dog, and it
> seems to be done like a dog fight - bloody with a slow recovery
> period).

just for clarification sake since you insinuate that this is madness...

Samba, like any Windows computer on any network will compete to be the
master browser on the LAN but at some point (perhaps it was Fedora 9),
the 'nmb' daemon was separated from the 'smb' daemon (see /etc/init.d/)
so that unless you specifically start the nmb daemon, a Fedora computer
running smb will not be part of the election.

The election occurs about every 15 minutes unless the last election
winner announces that it is shutting down. The election determines which
computer will provide a NETBIOS list of computers on the LAN (NETBIOS
name resolution). 

Fedora users can actually determine which Windows computer is the master
browser by opening up a terminal and typing...
nmblookup -M -- -
(note, include the dashes as above... 2 dashes, a space and then another
dash).

What you are probably referring to as 'slow recovery period' is because
of past experiences showing computers that were shut down or turned on
since the previous election and whether they show up or not in browse
lists. This is standard Microsoft Windows behavior.

This is well documented behavior by both Microsoft and Samba. Default
samba settings would likely cause a Fedora samba server to win the
election against Windows XP and Windows Vista computers but again, only
if you start the 'nmb' service. Default samba settings on Fedora would
not likely cause it to win an election if some Windows server were on
the LAN. But NETBIOS does not provide DNS resolution, only name
resolution for Windows services. So it is generally of little interest
to Linux users unless you do more sophisticated things with say
nsswitch.conf but that is beyond what most people will do with their
boxes.

Craig


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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Hiisi]

2009/9/23 Mikkel :
> man floppy
> or
> pinfo floppy
>
> You can create the /etc/floppy file by running, as root this
> command: floppy --createrc > /etc/floppy

Done that.

>
> You should then be able to run something like:
> floppy --format A:

Whenever I'm trying the command above I have:
floppy --ext2 --format A:
floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc.

/dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0


The penult line means 'The file or directory not found'.
What's wrong with it?

>
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Thanks everybody for attention!

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FC10 -- adding /var/log/messages to daily logrotate

[Robert Moskowitz]

I just discovered that /var/log/messages is NOT part of the daily 
logrotate on my FC10 netbook.  My drive was full with a 4Gb messages 
file.  Deleted it and now the system is working right again.


So I want to add it to the daily rotate.  Is there an easy way to set 
this up?


More importantly why is it NOT part of the daily rotate?


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Re: Question about installing the proprietary nvidia drivers with RPMFusion

[Richard Shaw]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Hugh Caley  wrote:
> Thanks, Richard, I did not have those entries in xorg.conf.  Seems to work.
>   I wonder why I didn't get that?

I'm not sure when mine got added as this is an F10 machine that was
preupgraded from F8. The original header in my xorg.conf said
configured by livna-config-display so it probably happened when I was
using the livna packge.

Richard

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Aldo Foot]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Hiisi  wrote:
> 2009/9/23 Mikkel :
>> man floppy
>> or
>> pinfo floppy
>>
>> You can create the /etc/floppy file by running, as root this
>> command: floppy --createrc > /etc/floppy
>
> Done that.
>
>>
>> You should then be able to run something like:
>> floppy --format A:
>
> Whenever I'm trying the command above I have:
> floppy --ext2 --format A:
> floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc.
>
> /dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
> No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0
>
>
> The penult line means 'The file or directory not found'.
> What's wrong with it?
>
_

do this command.
 $ floppy --capacity A:
To show the available format capacities of the floppy drive and post back.

~af

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Hiisi]

2009/9/24 Aldo Foot :
<--SNIP-->
>>
>> Whenever I'm trying the command above I have:
>> floppy --ext2 --format A:
>> floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc.
>>
>> /dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
>> No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0
>>
>>
>> The penult line means 'The file or directory not found'.
>> What's wrong with it?
>>
> _
>
> do this command.
>     $ floppy --capacity A:
> To show the available format capacities of the floppy drive and post back.
>
> ~af
>

$ floppy --capacity A:
floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc.

Formattable capacities for /dev/fd0:
  80x36x512   (/dev/fd0H1440, 1.40 Mb)
  80x18x512   (/dev/fd0D720, 720 Kb)
  80x48x512   (/dev/fd0u1920, 1.87 Mb)
  80x28x512   (/dev/fd0u1120, 1.09 Mb)
  80x40x512   (/dev/fd0u1660, 1.56 Mb)
  80x26x512   (/dev/fd0u1040, 1.01 Mb)
  80x46x512   (/dev/fd0u1840, 1.79 Mb)
  80x42x512   (/dev/fd0u1680, 1.64 Mb)


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Re: FC10 -- adding /var/log/messages to daily logrotate

[Sharpe, Sam J]

2009/9/23 Robert Moskowitz :
> I just discovered that /var/log/messages is NOT part of the daily logrotate
> on my FC10 netbook.  My drive was full with a 4Gb messages file.  Deleted it
> and now the system is working right again.
>
> So I want to add it to the daily rotate.  Is there an easy way to set this
> up?
>
> More importantly why is it NOT part of the daily rotate?

It has been part of the (weekly) log rotation for as long as I remember.

Is your /var/log/secure log rotated correctly?

- You should have /etc/cron.daily/logrotate, which runs logrotate daily.

- You should have /etc/logrotate.conf which sets some defaults, notably:
# rotate log files weekly
weekly

# keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs
rotate 4

- You should then have something like the following script:

[...@samlap ~]$ cat /etc/logrotate.d/syslog
/var/log/messages /var/log/secure /var/log/maillog /var/log/spooler
/var/log/boot.log /var/log/cron {
sharedscripts
postrotate
/bin/kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslogd.pid 2> /dev/null` 2> /dev/null || 
true
endscript
}

But as I said before, I believe the messages log is on weekly
rotation, not daily and depends on cron.daily running...

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Re: FC10 -- adding /var/log/messages to daily logrotate

[Robert Moskowitz]

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

2009/9/23 Robert Moskowitz :
  

I just discovered that /var/log/messages is NOT part of the daily logrotate
on my FC10 netbook.  My drive was full with a 4Gb messages file.  Deleted it
and now the system is working right again.

So I want to add it to the daily rotate.  Is there an easy way to set this
up?

More importantly why is it NOT part of the daily rotate?



It has been part of the (weekly) log rotation for as long as I remember.

Is your /var/log/secure log rotated correctly?

- You should have /etc/cron.daily/logrotate, which runs logrotate daily.

- You should have /etc/logrotate.conf which sets some defaults, notably:
# rotate log files weekly
weekly

# keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs
rotate 4

- You should then have something like the following script:

[...@samlap ~]$ cat /etc/logrotate.d/syslog
/var/log/messages /var/log/secure /var/log/maillog /var/log/spooler
/var/log/boot.log /var/log/cron {
sharedscripts
postrotate
/bin/kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslogd.pid 2> /dev/null` 2> /dev/null || 
true
endscript
}

But as I said before, I believe the messages log is on weekly
rotation, not daily and depends on cron.daily running...



OOPS.  My bad.

I see now that messages IS being rotated.  It was just so big due to an 
app that was dumping into it that it grew to 4Gb in a single day and 
filled up my /var partition.


BAD app.  BAD app.  Go in the corner until you can behave.

:)

I turned debug off on it while I work with the developers


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Re: root e-mail (Was Questionable Status)

[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 11:51 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: 
> Mikkel on 09/23/2009 11:49 AM wrote:
> > This is not good. Maybe a modification of the install procedure to
> > set an alias so that all mail goes to the first normal user that is
> > set up? Or an option to do this as part of the install? What do you
> > think?
> > 
> 
> This is going off-topic of the OP, but this topic is always discussed
> around Alpha time every 6 months. Nothing ever comes out of the
> discussions. Feel free to open a bug or provide patches.
> 
It is easy to send root's mail to another user using the /etc/aliases
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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Aldo Foot]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Hiisi  wrote:
>> do this command.
>>     $ floppy --capacity A:
>> To show the available format capacities of the floppy drive and post back.
>>
>> ~af
>>
>
> $ floppy --capacity A:
> floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc.
>
> Formattable capacities for /dev/fd0:
>  80x36x512       (/dev/fd0H1440, 1.40 Mb)
>  80x18x512       (/dev/fd0D720, 720 Kb)
>  80x48x512       (/dev/fd0u1920, 1.87 Mb)
>  80x28x512       (/dev/fd0u1120, 1.09 Mb)
>  80x40x512       (/dev/fd0u1660, 1.56 Mb)
>  80x26x512       (/dev/fd0u1040, 1.01 Mb)
>  80x46x512       (/dev/fd0u1840, 1.79 Mb)
>  80x42x512       (/dev/fd0u1680, 1.64 Mb)
__

Do you have a dev file like  /dev/fd0H1440? or /dev/fd0u1440?
My CentOS box has /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd0H1440.  So I can
do "fdformat -n /dev/fd0u1440".
My F11 box has only /dev/fd0.

I was going to suggest setfdprm so you set the floppy capacity
yourself, but it looks like it's no longer available after FC6.

But you can compile the utility yourself.
http://fdutils.linux.lu/

you've got a bit of homework to do.
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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Hiisi]

2009/9/24 Aldo Foot :
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Hiisi  wrote:
>>> do this command.
>>>     $ floppy --capacity A:
>>> To show the available format capacities of the floppy drive and post back.
>>>
>>> ~af
>>>
>>
>> $ floppy --capacity A:
>> floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc.
>>
<--SNIP-->
> __
>
> Do you have a dev file like  /dev/fd0H1440? or /dev/fd0u1440?

I have no.
$ ls /dev | grep fd
fd
fd0
floppy-fd0

> My CentOS box has /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd0H1440.  So I can
> do "fdformat -n /dev/fd0u1440".
> My F11 box has only /dev/fd0.
>
> I was going to suggest setfdprm so you set the floppy capacity
> yourself, but it looks like it's no longer available after FC6.
>
> But you can compile the utility yourself.
> http://fdutils.linux.lu/
>

No, thanks. I'm too nervous to compile programs from source. I'll wait
until floppies resurrection. Just wanted to update motherboard' BIOS.
Gygibite provide only exe file. Pity it is : -(
I was trying to do some 'homework' like this one:
http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html

> you've got a bit of homework to do.
> ~af
>

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Mikkel]

Hiisi wrote:
> 2009/9/23 Mikkel :
>> man floppy
>> or
>> pinfo floppy
>>
>> You can create the /etc/floppy file by running, as root this
>> command: floppy --createrc > /etc/floppy
> 
> Done that.
> 
>> You should then be able to run something like:
>> floppy --format A:
> 
> Whenever I'm trying the command above I have:
> floppy --ext2 --format A:
> floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc.
> 
> /dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
> No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0
> 
> 
> The penult line means 'The file or directory not found'.
> What's wrong with it?
> 
Dumb question 1 - does it help if you run "modprobe floppy" as root
before trying to format a floppy?

Dumb question 2 - did you make sure you had a disk drive in the drive?

Dumb question 3 - Does the floppy drive work for anything else?

You can also play with fdformat /dev/fd0u1440 (I am not sure where
you got /dev/fd0H1440.)

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Hiisi writes:


2009/9/23 Mikkel :

man floppy
or
pinfo floppy

You can create the /etc/floppy file by running, as root this
command: floppy --createrc > /etc/floppy


Done that.



You should then be able to run something like:
floppy --format A:


Whenever I'm trying the command above I have:
floppy --ext2 --format A:
floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc.

/dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0


You're missing some device node.

Run 'MAKEDEV fd0'



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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Aldo Foot]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Sam Varshavchik  wrote:
<...snip...>
>>
>> Whenever I'm trying the command above I have:
>> floppy --ext2 --format A:
>> floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc.
>>
>> /dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
>> No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0
>
> You're missing some device node.
>
> Run 'MAKEDEV fd0'
_

How was he able to get the "Formattable capacities for /dev/fd0:" he showed
in a previous email?

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Aldo Foot writes:


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Sam Varshavchik  wrote:
<...snip...>


Whenever I'm trying the command above I have:
floppy --ext2 --format A:
floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc.

/dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0


You're missing some device node.

Run 'MAKEDEV fd0'

_

How was he able to get the "Formattable capacities for /dev/fd0:" he showed
in a previous email?


floppy first opens /dev/fd0 and ioctls the device driver to read the 
available format capacity. An open of /dev/fd0 succeeds even if the inserted 
floppy is unformatted.


But you cannot issue a format on /dev/fd0 in this instance, because the 
floppy is unformatted. A format issued on /dev/fd0 only works for floppies 
that are already formatted, and uses the same density as the existing 
format. Therefore, floppy takes the selected format capacity from /dev/fd0 
(the highest supported, by default), then maps it back to its corresponding 
/dev/fd0xx device name, opens that, and then issues the format ioctls.


This is really ancient stuff that I haven't touched in a while. I was even 
sufficiently motivated -- seeing that this hasn't been forgotten -- to go in 
and add the --ext3 option. When I did that -- and only after rummaging 
around the house to find an actual floppy -- I discovered that 1.44mb is too 
small for ext3, hahahaha.


I know that he's missing /dev nodes because that's exactly what happened to 
me, when I tried to test it. Somehow, at some point in the last six years, 
a bunch of /dev/fdnxx device nodes vanished in Fedora, and it was 
necessary to run MAKEDEV manually to bring them back. WTF???


And I don't remember why floppy wound up in the util-linux-ng rpm. It was 
never part of util-linux. It's a separate package, which is included in the 
Fedora util-linux-ng RPM. The floppy tarball also includes a GTK tool, which 
gets stripped out and not even included in util-linux, since it requires 
gtk.




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attempting to do a ldapsearch on a public college ldap server...

[bruce]

Hi..

Trying to run a simple ldap search/query against a supposedly public ldap
server. I've tried a number of copy/paste attempts that I've seen from
various sites with no luck...

If anyone has successfully pinged/queried a public ldap server from the
cmdline, can you post your cmd that you used so I can see what I'm missing..

Thanks!

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combining image files into a pdf

[David Timms]

Hi, I have image files of type:
- png
- tif  (b/w) - fax like
- jpg
that were produced by my scanner, during scan of a document.

I've tried a few ways to achieve this, with limited results:
- gscan2pdf: all png pages have a strong purple tint.
- tiff2pdf: works for the tiff files
- pdfedit: needs a pdf to start with, so not much help
- pdf chain: uses pdftk to do manipulations; generates 0 byte pdf, 
output dialog seems to hang.

- oopresentation/draw: doesn't like the tif files.
and a few attempts with command line tools.

I haven't found a way to (easily) combine those into a pdf. I would like 
to know if Fedora has such software already packaged, or another linux 
app that could perform this ?


DaveT.

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Re: Why update Swahili?

[Andras Simon]

On 9/23/09, Tony Nelson  wrote:
> On 09-09-23 04:15:14, Andras Simon wrote:
>
>> No. Neither are bash commands, but you issue them in a shell (which,
>> in your case, is probably bash). Since the shell sees your command
>> and its arguments first, it can and does manipulate them. One thing
>> it does with them is
>
> attempt to
>
>> expand special characters, such as * and ?; so
>> unless you escape those, yum or rm will never see them, only the
>> result(s) of the expansion
>
> , unless there was no match, in which case bash will pass on the "*",
> making the yum command depend on the contents of the current directory
> (see `man bash` "Pathname Expansion" and the various *glob options)
>
>> . 'rm *' will remove all files in the
>> current directory, but 'rm \*' will only remove the one whose name is
>> '*'. See any intro to unix in general and shells in particular.

Thanks for the correction,

Andras

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Mikkel]

Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Hiisi writes:
> 
>>
>> /dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
>> No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0
> 
> You're missing some device node.
> 
> Run 'MAKEDEV fd0'
> 
On my system, the device node is /def/fd0u1440, not /dev/fd0H1440.
In any case, you should not need to run MAKEDEV - udev is supposed
to take care of creating device nodes. If you create your own, it
will not survive a reboot.

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Mikkel writes:


Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Hiisi writes:



/dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0


You're missing some device node.

Run 'MAKEDEV fd0'


On my system, the device node is /def/fd0u1440, not /dev/fd0H1440.


According to the fd man page:

  3.5 inch high density device files:

  Name Capac.   Cyl.   Sect.   Heads   Base minor #
  fdnH1440 1440K80 18  2   28

And that's what MAKEDEV created for me.


In any case, you should not need to run MAKEDEV - udev is supposed
to take care of creating device nodes. If you create your own, it
will not survive a reboot.


[mr...@commodore dev]$ ls -al fd0H1440 fd0u1440
brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 28 2009-09-22 19:52 fd0H1440
brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 28 2009-09-22 19:52 fd0u1440

It's the same device node.

I don't know whether at some point in the last couple of years the commonly 
accepted naming convention for floppy device nodes has changed, or if this 
is a Fedora-ism. If the standard naming convention has changed, then I'll 
update floppy as soon as I see where the new naming convention is 
documented. But, as of now, this is what the fd man page says the naming 
convention should be, and that's what MAKEDEV creates.






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Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

[Todd Zullinger]

Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
> 2009/9/23 Tim :
>> On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 11:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> I won't personally touch those sites with a 10 foot piece of cat5.
>>
>> Hmm, I would have thought that whipping them with a cat-o-five
>> tails would be the proper way to deal with them...  ;-)
>
> I'm with you on that one, but i suppose that's why i don't moderate
> MLs.

Actually, I did send a note directly to the OP noting that they should
be more careful when sending out mass invites (or having some service
do it for them).

While the original post was annoying, it's actually worse to have long
threads following it. ;)

As a relatively friendly, volunteer list moderator, would it help to
ask folks to let this thread and others like it die?  If a poster
needs dealt with, the proper method of doing so should be sending a
note to the list owner address to make us aware of any problem.

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Mikkel]

Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> 
> I don't know whether at some point in the last couple of years the
> commonly accepted naming convention for floppy device nodes has changed,
> or if this is a Fedora-ism. If the standard naming convention has
> changed, then I'll update floppy as soon as I see where the new naming
> convention is documented. But, as of now, this is what the fd man page
> says the naming convention should be, and that's what MAKEDEV creates.
> 
All I can tell you is that in the /Documentation/devices.txt file in
the kernel source/documentation, it does not list any floppy devices
using a capital H. There is a lower case h, but that is used in
5-1/4" floppies.
...
40 = /dev/fd?h1440 5.25" 1440K in a 1200K drive(1)
...
28 = /dev/fd?u1440 3.5"  1440K High Density(1)
...
(1) Autodetectable format

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Aldo Foot]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Mikkel  wrote:
> Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>
>> I don't know whether at some point in the last couple of years the
>> commonly accepted naming convention for floppy device nodes has changed,
>> or if this is a Fedora-ism. If the standard naming convention has
>> changed, then I'll update floppy as soon as I see where the new naming
>> convention is documented. But, as of now, this is what the fd man page
>> says the naming convention should be, and that's what MAKEDEV creates.
>>
> All I can tell you is that in the /Documentation/devices.txt file in
> the kernel source/documentation, it does not list any floppy devices
> using a capital H. There is a lower case h, but that is used in
> 5-1/4" floppies.
> ...
> 40 = /dev/fd?h1440     5.25" 1440K in a 1200K drive(1)
> ...
> 28 = /dev/fd?u1440     3.5"  1440K High Density(1)
> ...
> (1) Autodetectable format
__

My CentOS has a  /dev/fd0u1440. Earlier I said I had a /dev/fd0H1440, but
that was not correct.

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Re: attempting to do a ldapsearch on a public college ldap server...

[Ed Greshko]

bruce wrote:
> Hi..
>
> Trying to run a simple ldap search/query against a supposedly public ldap
> server. I've tried a number of copy/paste attempts that I've seen from
> various sites with no luck...
>
> If anyone has successfully pinged/queried a public ldap server from the
> cmdline, can you post your cmd that you used so I can see what I'm missing..
>
>   
If it is a public ldap server that you are trying to access then why not
tell us and let us that have done this try it and give you the exact
correct answer.

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Re: root e-mail (Was Questionable Status)

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 15:55 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 11:51 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: 
> > Mikkel on 09/23/2009 11:49 AM wrote:
> > > This is not good. Maybe a modification of the install procedure to
> > > set an alias so that all mail goes to the first normal user that is
> > > set up? Or an option to do this as part of the install? What do you
> > > think?
> > > 
> > 
> > This is going off-topic of the OP, but this topic is always discussed
> > around Alpha time every 6 months. Nothing ever comes out of the
> > discussions. Feel free to open a bug or provide patches.
> > 
> It is easy to send root's mail to another user using the /etc/aliases
> file. So the above is not really a problem.

assuming that you are not on a cable/phone network that doesn't block
outbound port 25 or that someone is using local mail, your assertion
would be true but those are bad assumptions to make for a large portion
of the users.

Craig


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[Solved] Re: Why update Swahili?

[gilpel]

Andras Simon wrote:

> On 9/23/09, gil...@altern.org  wrote:
>>> gil...@altern.org wrote:

>> So, if I write
>>
>> rm m17n*
>>
>> it will remove all instances of m17n...
>>
>> but, because yum is not a bash command, the * has to be escaped?
>
> No. Neither are bash commands

Well, in my book, rm is a bash command. It might not be exclusive to the
bash shell, but it definitely is a bash command. Otherwise, maybe you
could tell us what a bash command is to you?

http://ss64.com/bash/

> 'rm *' will remove all files in the
> current directory, but 'rm \*' will only remove the one whose name is
> '*'. See any intro to unix in general and shells in particular.

This much I know. What I didn't know what what would be the effect of
escaping * with yum.

I finally removed all the m17n paraphernalia with  a plain

yum erase m17n*

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Where are the english dictionaries for OOo, Firefox, Evolution, etc?

[gilpel]

It seems they're not spelled with i18n or aspell.

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Re: combining image files into a pdf

[Peter Langfelder]

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:14 PM, David Timms  wrote:
> Hi, I have image files of type:
> - png
> - tif  (b/w) - fax like
> - jpg
> that were produced by my scanner, during scan of a document.
>
> I've tried a few ways to achieve this, with limited results:
> - gscan2pdf: all png pages have a strong purple tint.
> - tiff2pdf: works for the tiff files
> - pdfedit: needs a pdf to start with, so not much help
> - pdf chain: uses pdftk to do manipulations; generates 0 byte pdf, output
> dialog seems to hang.
> - oopresentation/draw: doesn't like the tif files.
> and a few attempts with command line tools.
>
> I haven't found a way to (easily) combine those into a pdf. I would like to
> know if Fedora has such software already packaged, or another linux app that
> could perform this ?

I'm not aware of any single application to do this, but you can issue

convert image.tif image.png

to convert the tiff into a png, then use openoffice to import all the
pictures and convert to a pdf.

Peter

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Re: [Solved] Re: Why update Swahili?

[Craig White]

On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 06:14 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote:
> Andras Simon wrote:
> 
> > On 9/23/09, gil...@altern.org  wrote:
> >>> gil...@altern.org wrote:
> 
> >> So, if I write
> >>
> >> rm m17n*
> >>
> >> it will remove all instances of m17n...
> >>
> >> but, because yum is not a bash command, the * has to be escaped?
> >
> > No. Neither are bash commands
> 
> Well, in my book, rm is a bash command. It might not be exclusive to the
> bash shell, but it definitely is a bash command. Otherwise, maybe you
> could tell us what a bash command is to you?

Try executing the command, 'yum provides /bin/rm'

rm is not a bash command per se. It is a core utility that can be used
by bash or any command shell (and there are many other command shells
other than bash supplied by Fedora).

Your book is wrong.

Craig


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Re: [Solved] Re: Why update Swahili?

[Rick Stevens]

gil...@altern.org wrote:

Andras Simon wrote:


On 9/23/09, gil...@altern.org  wrote:

gil...@altern.org wrote:



So, if I write

rm m17n*

it will remove all instances of m17n...

but, because yum is not a bash command, the * has to be escaped?

No. Neither are bash commands


Well, in my book, rm is a bash command. It might not be exclusive to the
bash shell, but it definitely is a bash command. Otherwise, maybe you
could tell us what a bash command is to you?


"rm" is a command in /bin.  It may be used in sh, ksh, csh, bash or
almost any shell you care to mention.  It is _not_ a bash built-in.

That being said, there _are_ bash builtins which have equivalents in the
standard paths ("test" comes to mind, one in bash and one in /usr/bin"),
but "rm" isn't one of them.


http://ss64.com/bash/


Try "man bash" first.  You'll see that "rm" isn't one of its commands.


'rm *' will remove all files in the
current directory, but 'rm \*' will only remove the one whose name is
'*'. See any intro to unix in general and shells in particular.


This much I know. What I didn't know what what would be the effect of
escaping * with yum.

I finally removed all the m17n paraphernalia with  a plain

yum erase m17n*

Thanks to all!






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Re: combining image files into a pdf

[Kevin Martin]

David Timms wrote:
> Hi, I have image files of type:
> - png
> - tif  (b/w) - fax like
> - jpg
> that were produced by my scanner, during scan of a document.
>
> I've tried a few ways to achieve this, with limited results:
> - gscan2pdf: all png pages have a strong purple tint.
> - tiff2pdf: works for the tiff files
> - pdfedit: needs a pdf to start with, so not much help
> - pdf chain: uses pdftk to do manipulations; generates 0 byte pdf,
> output dialog seems to hang.
> - oopresentation/draw: doesn't like the tif files.
> and a few attempts with command line tools.
>
> I haven't found a way to (easily) combine those into a pdf. I would
> like to know if Fedora has such software already packaged, or another
> linux app that could perform this ?
>
> DaveT.
>
Dave,

 I do this with gimp by "printing" them to .ps files and the using
ps2pdf to "save" them as a pdf file.  Essentially, once they are in .ps
format you would 'cat file1.ps file2.ps file3.ps | ps2pdf - pdfname.pdf'.

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Mikkel writes:


Sam Varshavchik wrote:


I don't know whether at some point in the last couple of years the
commonly accepted naming convention for floppy device nodes has changed,
or if this is a Fedora-ism. If the standard naming convention has
changed, then I'll update floppy as soon as I see where the new naming
convention is documented. But, as of now, this is what the fd man page
says the naming convention should be, and that's what MAKEDEV creates.


All I can tell you is that in the /Documentation/devices.txt file in
the kernel source/documentation, it does not list any floppy devices
using a capital H. There is a lower case h, but that is used in
5-1/4" floppies.
...
40 = /dev/fd?h1440 5.25" 1440K in a 1200K drive(1)
...
28 = /dev/fd?u1440 3.5"  1440K High Density(1)
...
(1) Autodetectable format


I see. But when I look into the actual kernel source:

static struct floppy_struct floppy_type[32] = {
...
   { 2880,18,2,80,0,0x1B,0x00,0xCF,0x6C,"H1440" }, /*  7 1.44MB 3.5"   

So the actual kernel source matches the man page. The label string here is 
what the kernel prints when it boots up. That's where, apparently, the 
device node names came from originally. But, looks like, at some point, for 
some reason, a different naming convention was adopted and listed in 
/Documentation, without updating the actual kernel source. And, Fedora's 
udev setup follows the /Documentation convention, while MAKEDEV follows the 
actual kernel source.




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[Solved] Re: Where are the english dictionaries for OOo, Firefox, Evolution, etc?

[gilpel]

> It seems they're not spelled with i18n or aspell.

They're under:

/usr/share/myspell/

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Mikkel]

Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> 
> I see. But when I look into the actual kernel source:
> 
> static struct floppy_struct floppy_type[32] = {
> ...
>{ 2880,18,2,80,0,0x1B,0x00,0xCF,0x6C,"H1440" }, /*  7 1.44MB 3.5"  
> So the actual kernel source matches the man page. The label string here
> is what the kernel prints when it boots up. That's where, apparently,
> the device node names came from originally. But, looks like, at some
> point, for some reason, a different naming convention was adopted and
> listed in /Documentation, without updating the actual kernel source.
> And, Fedora's udev setup follows the /Documentation convention, while
> MAKEDEV follows the actual kernel source.
> 
I guess things need to be brought in sync. The file I quoted from
was for 2006, so the change was made at least that long ago. It is
the same in the 2009/04/06 version. But I did forget to include this
comment from the end of the floppy device section:

NOTE: The letter in the device name (d, q, h or u)
signifies the type of drive: 5.25" Double Density (d),
5.25" Quad Density (q), 5.25" High Density (h) or 3.5"
(any model, u).  The use of the capital letters D, H
and E for the 3.5" models have been deprecated, since
the drive type is insignificant for these devices.

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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Mikkel writes:


Sam Varshavchik wrote:


I see. But when I look into the actual kernel source:

static struct floppy_struct floppy_type[32] = {
...
   { 2880,18,2,80,0,0x1B,0x00,0xCF,0x6C,"H1440" }, /*  7 1.44MB 3.5"  
So the actual kernel source matches the man page. The label string here

is what the kernel prints when it boots up. That's where, apparently,
the device node names came from originally. But, looks like, at some
point, for some reason, a different naming convention was adopted and
listed in /Documentation, without updating the actual kernel source.
And, Fedora's udev setup follows the /Documentation convention, while
MAKEDEV follows the actual kernel source.


I guess things need to be brought in sync. The file I quoted from
was for 2006, so the change was made at least that long ago. It is
the same in the 2009/04/06 version. But I did forget to include this
comment from the end of the floppy device section:

NOTE: The letter in the device name (d, q, h or u)
signifies the type of drive: 5.25" Double Density (d),
5.25" Quad Density (q), 5.25" High Density (h) or 3.5"
(any model, u).  The use of the capital letters D, H
and E for the 3.5" models have been deprecated, since
the drive type is insignificant for these devices.


After some more digging I've came to pretty much the same conclusion. So 
after a few years of general inactivity, I'm going to update floppy with the 
current device names, and I'll see if I can the upstream to update the fd(7) 
man page. But until the updated floppy makes it way into the Fedora branch 
of util-linux-ng, running MAKEDEV is the only workaround.





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My WebDav Calendar for Sunbird/Lightning has stopped working

[Kevin J. Cummings]

My Home server has a WebDav Calendar named Home in 
/var/www/html/dav/Home.ics


Long story short:
	Last night (actually, about 1:30 this AM) I made one change to my 
calendar from my laptop via Thunderbird/Lightning.  It seemed to take, 
so I shut down the laptop and went to bed.


	This morning (about 11:30 AM) I fired up the laptop to look at my 
calendar and it was "gone".  No data in Thunderbird/Lightning from it. 
There is a little "!" inside a yellow triangle next to it in the 
calendar list.


	No attempt to access this calendar is succeeding for me.  Not from 
Lightning, not from Sunbird, not from any of my 3 machines running Linux 
(I haven't tried my wife's Windows box yet).


	I've looked at /var/log/httpd/access_log and error_log.  The access_log 
shows my GET's, but there are no errors in the error log.
So, I assume that the data is being served properly, so it must be 
something else.


	So, I went down to the server and rebooted.  No change!  The calendar 
is still un-accessable.


	So, finally, I installed Sunbird on the server and tried to add the 
calendar to it.  No dice.  Same stupid yellow triangle.


This time, I looked at Sunbirds error console:


Error: Skipping Operating System timezone 'America/New'. TypeError: tz has no 
properties
Source File: file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/components/calItemModule.js -> 
file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/js/calTimezoneService.js
Line: 736



Warning: Warning:  Using guessed timezone
  America/New_York (UTC-0500/-0400).
This ZoneInfo timezone seems to match the operating system timezone this year.
This ZoneInfo timezone was chosen based on matching the operating system
timezone with likely timezones for internet users using US English.



Error: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x804a0100 [calIICSService.parseICS]"  nsresult: 
"0x804a0100 ()"  location: "JS frame :: 
file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/components/calItemModule.js -> file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/js/calIcsParser.js :: 
ip_parseString :: line 58"  data: no]
Source File: file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/components/calItemModule.js -> 
file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/js/calIcsParser.js
Line: 58



Warning: There has been an error reading data for calendar: HomeDav. It has been placed in read-only mode, since 
changes to this calendar will likely result in data-loss.  You may change this setting by choosing 'Edit Calendar'. 
Error code: ICS_NO_ERROR. Description: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x804a0100 
[calIICSService.parseICS]"  nsresult: "0x804a0100 ()"  location: "JS frame :: 
file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/components/calItemModule.js -> file:///usr/lib/sunbird-0.9/js/calIcsParser.js :: 
ip_parseString :: line 58"  data: no]


Warning: There has been an error reading data for calendar: HomeDav. Error code: READ_FAILED. Description: 


The only package changes I can see happened before:


Sep 23 00:40:12 Updated: perl-Net-CIDR-Lite-0.20-4.fc10.noarch
Sep 23 00:40:12 Updated: perl-MLDBM-2.01-7.fc10.noarch
Sep 23 00:40:13 Updated: perl-Net-CIDR-0.13-2.fc10.noarch
Sep 23 00:40:15 Updated: perl-Net-DNS-0.65-1.2.cf.fc10.i386
Sep 23 12:18:15 Installed: sunbird-0.9-3.fc10.i386


Nothing jumps out at me.

Can someone please tell me what went wrong?  And maybe point the finger 
at the problem?


Thanks!

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Re: Intel video driver 2.8.1 is available; when in repository?

[Gabriel Ramirez]

On 09/22/2009 07:10 PM, Rob wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On August 25th a new release 2.8.1 of the intel video driver became 
> availalble:
> 
>  http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-August/046978.html
> 
> The current one (2.7.0) is suffering from too many bugs.
> Is there any plan to make the new release available in the
> yum reporsitory of Fedora 11?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob.
> 

Well, but maybe the majority of the computers run fine with the 2.7.0,
so maybe thats the reason to not make a upgrade to the 2.8.1 in the
release of Fedora 11.

by example I have two computers:

one have problems with the 2.7.0 version

the other have none but the second one a is netbook and don't have a
uptime longer of two days, I was shut down or restarting after one or
two days so maybe is the reason to not trigger the freeze bugs in the
driver,

but the problems in the first computer make me to compile the 2.8.1
version but the graphics chipset a  intel G33 hit a bug in mesa too, so
my intel driver is compiled against mesa 7.5.1 not the 7.6 version in Fedora

and my machine  don't have any freezes anymore, but I only have the
Desktop Effects in KDE enabled I don't use any opengl apps regularly,
but the machine have 5 or 6 days without ill effects, I reboot them
weekly to apply stock fedora updates

but if the driver works well in my machines don't mean which in all
machines will works well too.

and rebuilding the intel driver to version 2.8.1 is easy if you have the
Development environment from Fedora 11. do you have it installed?


Gabriel

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sftp access to fedora11

[online.service....@gmail.com]

I don't have any ftp server installed/turned on , why i still have sftp access?

Thanks

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Re: sftp access to fedora11

[Itamar Reis Peixoto]

openssh ?


On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:18 AM, online.service@gmail.com <
online.service@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't have any ftp server installed/turned on , why i still have sftp
> access?
>
> Thanks
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Re: sftp access to fedora11

[Todd Zullinger]

online.service@gmail.com  wrote:
> I don't have any ftp server installed/turned on , why i still have
> sftp access?

Because sftp is provided by ssh.  So if you're running an ssh daemon,
you'll have sftp by default.

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Re: sftp access to fedora11

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:18:19 -0700
online.service@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Mr. Service.com (or may I call you Online?)

> I don't have any ftp server installed/turned on , why i still have sftp 
> access?

Because sftp runs through/over ssh.  If you're running sshd, you have sftp
access.

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Re: [Solved] Re: Why update Swahili?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 06:14 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote:
> Well, in my book, rm is a bash command. It might not be exclusive to
> the bash shell, but it definitely is a bash command. Otherwise, maybe
> you could tell us what a bash command is to you?

You are wrong. 'rm' (meaning /bin/rm) is an executable program. Shell
commands are builtin procedures such as 'cd', 'eval', etc. Unix Shells
have worked this way since the beginning.

In Bash, if you want to know if a command is builtin, use 'type':

$ type rm
rm is /bin/rm
$ type cd
cd is a shell builtin
$ type type
type is a shell builtin

poc

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Re: combining image files into a pdf

[Mogens Kjaer]

On 09/24/2009 12:14 AM, David Timms wrote:
...

I haven't found a way to (easily) combine those into a pdf.


convert imagefiles... file.pdf

However, this is very RAM hungry.

To convert black-and-white scanned documents to a
PDF in A4 size, I normally do:

tiffcp -c g4 *.tiff /tmp/all.tiff
tiff2ps -w 8.27 -h 11.69 -a -1 -p /tmp/all.tiff /tmp/all.ps
ps2pdf -dUseFlateCompression -sPAPERSIZE=a4 /tmp/all.ps document.pdf

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