Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 10/02/2009 04:53 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 A important oddness of the feature process is that it is not actually
 necessary for the feature to be in the distribution. So you send a nag
 mail, feature owners ignores it, you drop the feature and the
 functionality is still there. So unless the feature owner is actually
 convinced it is worth the effort, he or she can let the feature be
 dropped and continue just working on whatever they are.  I don't know
 whether this can be fixed or is considered a problem but I think we
 should see if we can do it in a different way.
 
It isn't always a problem at all.  Other times it is a huge problem.
NFSv4 by default is an example of a change that could cause problems.
The reason being that it affected numerous other pieces of the distro.
That kind of change needs coordination (even if it's just break the
world at the beginning of the cycle and everyone figures out workarounds
before beta.)

OTOH, Better WebCam Support was self contained among a few developers
who were already talking to each other.  This is a feature where
dropping it is only dropping the release notes portion, not the actual work.

So do we need to fix this?  I think recognizing that there's different
types of features and some of them can continue even if they are dropped
while others must be (wholly or partially) reverted if they are dropped
is step one.  Putting more effort (tracking development, making sure
that the owner knows what things need to be in place for what deadlines,
finding extra manpower if possible if a feature is slipping) towards the
ones that would need to be reverted if they don't complete is step two.

-Toshio



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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:00:12 +0200,
  Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
 
 So really, I see no practical argument against switching back to the 
 Alpha/Beta/Preview naming (and reintroducing the old Alpha – again, as 
 useless as it was in practice, the psychological impact on developers 
 shouldn't be underestimated).

The (old) alpha freeze is extra work for some people and may not be worth the
extra work as compared to say the nightly snapshots. I also find freezes
annoying in that my rawhide machines don't get some updates during the
freeze. If there are things I am interested in, I have to grab them manually.
If the no frozen rawhide becomes a reality for F13, then this latter complaint
will become moot.

I'd rather see more work spent on clearly documenting what developers need
to get done by when and how to determine if stricter guidelines apply
to your package(s), because it is a feature or an especially important
package.

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Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-03 Thread Peter Robinson
 syncevolution -- SyncML client for evolution

I'll take this one.

Peter

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wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi all,

Do we have wmii (a window manager, http://wmii.suckless.org) packaged
for Fedora?

Regards,
Ilyes Gouta.

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Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread David Timms

On 10/03/2009 07:12 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:

Do we have wmii (a window manager, http://wmii.suckless.org) packaged
for Fedora?

Not that I can see for f11 or rawhide.
Would you like to begin packaging it ?

DaveT.

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Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-03 Thread Christoph Höger
Am Samstag, den 03.10.2009, 10:09 +0100 schrieb Peter Robinson:
  syncevolution -- SyncML client for evolution
 
 I'll take this one.
 
 Peter


I've just commented on that package, but you're not yet maintaining it,
so I'll repeat what I've discussed with Matěj already:

1. There is some bug with the libraries lying in /usr/lib/syncevolution
without patching no binary works out of the box

2. The sync-ui binary (which I wanted to test the most ;)) is missing.

regars

Christoph


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Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-03 Thread Peter Robinson
2009/10/3 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de:
 Am Samstag, den 03.10.2009, 10:09 +0100 schrieb Peter Robinson:
  syncevolution -- SyncML client for evolution

 I'll take this one.

 Peter


 I've just commented on that package, but you're not yet maintaining it,
 so I'll repeat what I've discussed with Matěj already:

 1. There is some bug with the libraries lying in /usr/lib/syncevolution
 without patching no binary works out of the box

 2. The sync-ui binary (which I wanted to test the most ;)) is missing.

yes, I'm aware of both of those issues. There's also a moblin gui for
it as well which is one of the reasons I'd like to maintain it. Plan
to add all of that in and a few other bits.

Peter

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Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

 Would you like to begin packaging it ?

Sounds good, still I've got to learn the process. It's all about
rebasing on rawhide and providing the right .spec file integrated into
the build system, isn't it?

Regards,
Ilyes Gouta.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:06 PM, David Timms dti...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 On 10/03/2009 07:12 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:

 Do we have wmii (a window manager, http://wmii.suckless.org) packaged
 for Fedora?

 Not that I can see for f11 or rawhide.
 Would you like to begin packaging it ?

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Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/10/3 Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:06 PM, David Timms dti...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 On 10/03/2009 07:12 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:

 Do we have wmii (a window manager, http://wmii.suckless.org) packaged
 for Fedora?

 Would you like to begin packaging it ?

 Sounds good, still I've got to learn the process. It's all about
 rebasing on rawhide and providing the right .spec file integrated into
 the build system, isn't it?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join

I could package it as well.. Check the page and the links in it. See
if you like to package and maintain it.

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Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/03/2009 07:15 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Would you like to begin packaging it ?
 
 Sounds good, still I've got to learn the process. It's all about
 rebasing on rawhide and providing the right .spec file integrated into
 the build system, isn't it?

More or less. Refer to

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers

Feel free to ask if you need more help. A number of existing
contributors will be willing to guide you.

Rahul

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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-03 Thread Seth Vidal



On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:


On 10/02/2009 04:53 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:


So do we need to fix this?  I think recognizing that there's different
types of features and some of them can continue even if they are dropped
while others must be (wholly or partially) reverted if they are dropped
is step one.  Putting more effort (tracking development, making sure
that the owner knows what things need to be in place for what deadlines,
finding extra manpower if possible if a feature is slipping) towards the
ones that would need to be reverted if they don't complete is step two.



So it sounds like features for critical-path items need to be completely 
in or completely out. Versus features for non-critical path.


But is nfs critical path B/c anaconda can call mount to an 
nfs:// install point?



-sv


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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/02/2009 09:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

 
 - Wait until we have the list of approved features. 
 - Divide them up amoung fesco and have a 'point contact' for each that
   is a fesco member. 

Having a FESCo owner to every feature in addition to the feature owner
might help. Abrt was part of the Fedora 11 feature list even though it
wasn't working as expected at that point. I posted to fedora-devel list
about this at a later point but nothing was changed. It is working now
well and deserves to be part of the Fedora 12 feature list but that
wasn't the case for the previous release.

It is a failure of the feature process not to have caught that.

Rahul

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Re: F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-02 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) - Recap

2009-10-03 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:17 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 14:47 -0400, James Laska wrote:
  * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526535  (jlaska, 16:17:50)
* AGREED: after good discussion around related changes, the group
  agreed to accept a fix for bug#526535 and several other NM changes
  that would be good to get broad testing from beta testers  (jlaska,
  16:36:46)
  
  * open discussion  (jlaska, 16:38:53)
* ACTION: dcbw will fix keys not shown as well, then rebuild pacakges,
  then follow up on the jlaska's mail with link to packages  (jlaska,
  16:39:38)
 
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1725454
 
 * Fri Oct  2 2009 Dan Williams d...@redhat.com - 0.7.996-4.git20091002
 - install: fix -gnome package %pre script failures (rh #526519)
 - nm: fix failures validating private keys when using the NSS crypto backend
 - applet: fix crashes when clicking on menu but not associated (rh #526535)
 - editor: fix crash editing wired 802.1x settings
 - editor: fix secrets retrieval when editing connections
 

Shouldn't you have built that in dist-f12 ?


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Trade review for two zikula packages

2009-10-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Hi,

Anyone want to trade reviews for two zikula packages?  We want to get
them approved and in so that Fedora Insight can be deployed with them
for Fedora 12.  Mel Chua and Rahul are in charge of them but I packaged
one of them and the other I reworked a bit.  I don't feel comfortable
reviewing the one I packaged and more eyes are always better on the other.

We one I packaged and needs to be reviewed by someone else:
  zikula-module-filterutils:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526595

The one I modified so if no one else steps up I'll finish off once
filterutils is done (it depends on filterutils):
  zikula-module-pagemaster:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483

Together they will let Fedora Insight create pages with dynamic content.

-Toshio



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Help with debuging Xserver / Goes in an infinite loop

2009-10-03 Thread Joshua C.
I have a problem with my xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.4-0.1.fc11.x86_64. I
read the instructions here
http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/ServerDebugging but
this didin't help. My Xserver goes in an infinite loop and starts
consuming 100% my cpu. Therefore the whole system freezes and I have
to manually reboot it. This happens all the time when I use firefox on
random sites. After restart there is nothing in the xorg.0.log and
everything repeats itself when I start firefox again. Therefore I need
to remove the savesession.js from the firefox home directory.

On the second mashine I also turned this on: handle SIGUSR1 nostop,
handle SIGUSR2 nostop, handle SIGPIPE nostop.

The Xserver just keeps running and I get no messages on the second
mashine. How to debug it?

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Fedora Insight naming (was: Re: Trade review for two zikula packages)

2009-10-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
 Fedora Insight

Hmmm, do we really have to conflict with RH's own software names?
http://sources.redhat.com/insight/

There are also several other pieces of software, companies etc. called 
Insight. I think we need a more original name!

Kevin Kofler

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dist-f12 locked?

2009-10-03 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All,

The last day or so I've been getting the following error when doing a
'make build' on the F-12 branches of various packages. Is there a
reason for the branch being locked?

Peter

Usage: koji build [options] target URL
(Specify the --help global option for a list of other help options)

koji: error: Destination tag dist-f12 is locked
make: *** [build] Error 1

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Re: dist-f12 locked?

2009-10-03 Thread Remi Collet
Le 03/10/2009 17:54, Peter Robinson a écrit :
 Hi All,
 
 The last day or so I've been getting the following error when doing a
 'make build' on the F-12 branches of various packages. Is there a
 reason for the branch being locked?

cvs update ?
(new build target is updates candidates)

 
 Peter
 
 Usage: koji build [options] target URL
 (Specify the --help global option for a list of other help options)
 
 koji: error: Destination tag dist-f12 is locked
 make: *** [build] Error 1
 

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Re: F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-02 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) - Recap

2009-10-03 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 10:47 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:17 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
  On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 14:47 -0400, James Laska wrote:
   * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526535  (jlaska, 16:17:50)
 * AGREED: after good discussion around related changes, the group
   agreed to accept a fix for bug#526535 and several other NM changes
   that would be good to get broad testing from beta testers  (jlaska,
   16:36:46)
   
   * open discussion  (jlaska, 16:38:53)
 * ACTION: dcbw will fix keys not shown as well, then rebuild pacakges,
   then follow up on the jlaska's mail with link to packages  (jlaska,
   16:39:38)
  
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1725454
  
  * Fri Oct  2 2009 Dan Williams d...@redhat.com - 0.7.996-4.git20091002
  - install: fix -gnome package %pre script failures (rh #526519)
  - nm: fix failures validating private keys when using the NSS crypto backend
  - applet: fix crashes when clicking on menu but not associated (rh #526535)
  - editor: fix crash editing wired 802.1x settings
  - editor: fix secrets retrieval when editing connections
  
 
 Shouldn't you have built that in dist-f12 ?

I've started an F12 build now, so we can get some testing over the
weekend:  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1725789


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Re: dist-f12 locked?

2009-10-03 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com wrote:
 Le 03/10/2009 17:54, Peter Robinson a écrit :
 Hi All,

 The last day or so I've been getting the following error when doing a
 'make build' on the F-12 branches of various packages. Is there a
 reason for the branch being locked?

 cvs update ?
 (new build target is updates candidates)

ah, did that on the local branch not the root of the package. I was
sure had but its fixed the problem. Thanks!

Peter

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Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Adam Miller
Doesn't it mention somewhere in the wmii documentation that wmii is not
intended for packaging because many of the user configuration options are to
be set in a header file pre compile? I could be wrong but seem to remember
reading that about both wmii and ion.

-Adam
From Android

On Oct 3, 2009 8:52 AM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

On 10/03/2009 07:15 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:  Hi,   Would you like to
begin packaging it ?   S...
More or less. Refer to

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers

Feel free to ask if you need more help. A number of existing
contributors will be willing to guide you.

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Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-03 Thread Matej Cepl
Christoph Wickert, Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:58:58 +0200:
 I'm going to take over nimbus. I already reviewed it and you asked me
 for co-maintenance. Sorry I didn't find the time to look into the EPEL
 build error sooner, it's still on my todo list.

Ownership released. Concernig bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
show_bug.cgi?id=522151 I think, I've got there a working solution. It 
might not be as cool as possible, but I think it works, and it should be 
(hopefully) reliable solution.

Basically I believe that this bug is solved pending your approval.

Matěj

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Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-03 Thread Matej Cepl
Dominic Hopf, Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:46:04 +0200:
 syncevolution -- SyncML client for evolution
 
 I would like to maintain this package then.

Talk with Peter Robinson about comaintainership.

Matěj

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Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-03 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
 Dominic Hopf, Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:46:04 +0200:
 syncevolution -- SyncML client for evolution

 I would like to maintain this package then.

 Talk with Peter Robinson about comaintainership.

I'll quite happily have someone to help co-maintain it :) Just request
it in pkgdb :)

Peter

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Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-03 Thread Matej Cepl
Christoph Höger, Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:23:01 +0200:
 2. The sync-ui binary (which I wanted to test the most ;)) is missing.

It is not missing in devel (now F-12) package. But it is still not 
working correctly due to %{_libdir}/syncevolution packages.

Matěj

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Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-03 Thread Matej Cepl
Peter Robinson, Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:09:20 +0100:
 syncevolution -- SyncML client for evolution
 
 I'll take this one.

Released in pkgdb. Thanks.

Matěj

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Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 03.10.2009, 12:04 -0500 schrieb Adam Miller:
 Doesn't it mention somewhere in the wmii documentation that wmii is
 not intended for packaging because many of the user configuration
 options are to be set in a header file pre compile? I could be wrong
 but seem to remember reading that about both wmii and ion.

That was dwm, which is also hosted at suckless.org and from the same
author IIRC:
Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it’s
pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small
and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions.

http://dwm.suckless.org/

 -Adam

Regards,
Christoph


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Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-03 Thread yersinia
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:

 Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

 Evolutionary, not revolutionary: build a python 3 stack
 parallel-installable with the python 2 stack.

 = High-level summary =
  - Python 3.0 was released almost 10 months ago, on 2008-12-03, and the
 latest release of the 3.* branch is 3.1.1, released on 2009-08-17.
  - Other distros have python 3, though not necessarily with anything
 on top resembling the full python 2 stack.
  - We have a working, valuable python 2 stack, which is used by
 critical system components (yum and anaconda): we must not destabilize
 the python 2 stack.
  - Python 3 is sufficiently different from python 2 that we need them
 to be independent software stacks.
  - I plan to spend a large chunk of my $DAYJOB over the next few months
 trying to build a useful Python 3 stack for Fedora 13, for some
 definition of useful (help will be appreciated!)
  - I don't want to add extra work for package maintainers:  if you
 maintain an SRPM of a python 2 module that's working for you, you
 shouldn't feel obligated to own a separate SRPM for python 3.  If
 someone has a need for the module on python 3, they can take on that
 work.

 = Background =
 Python 3 is intended by upstream to be the future of Python, but we have
 many critical components that use Python 2.  Python 2 and Python 3 are
 sufficiently different that we need both (try writing print in each).
 Python 2 will be around for a long time.

 An interesting summary of Python 3 adoption can be seen here:

 http://renesd.blogspot.com/2009/09/py3kpython3-more-than-one-year-on-096.html

 An earlier proposal about python 3 in Fedora is here:
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-May/msg02417.html

 Going forward, I will have plenty of time to spend, as part of my
 dayjob, on Python in Fedora [1]

 = Proposal =
 I want to get python 3 into Fedora, but I don't want to break yum or
 anaconda (or anything else, for that matter!)

 How to do this?  I propose that Fedora shall have separate,
 parallel-installable Python 2 and Python 3 stacks.  I believe we can get
 things to the point where on a Fedora box you'd be able to install both
 stacks, and have some processes running python 2 code, and some running
 python 3, simultaneously.

 Where I would draw the line is on having both python 2 and python 3
 running within the same _process_: the two libraries share most of their
 symbol names, but with differing implementations, and the result of
 trying to dynamically link the two into the same address space would be
 highly unstable.

 As an example, you'd be able to install both mod_python and mod_python3
 rpms, but you wouldn't be able to (sanely) configure httpd to have both
 running simultaneously (I guess we should add a run-time warning for
 this case)

 Scoping:
  - this work would target Fedora 13.  I'd avoid pushing it into F12
 until it's proven safe to do so
  - the proposal is for python 2 vs python 3.  It could be extended to
 support having multiple minor-versions of Python as well, but that's a
 big extension of the work involved and not something I'm planning to
 work on myself.

 = Details =
 We should split python 2 and python 3 at the source RPM level, where
 possible.

 The easy case is when upstream release separate tarballs for the python
 2 and python 3 versions of code.  For example, given package
 python-foo in packaging CVS, there would be a separate python3-foo
 for the python 3 version.  There would be no expectation that the two
 would need to upgrade in lock-step.  (The two SRPMS could have different
 maintainers within Fedora: the packager of a python 2 module might not
 yet have any interest in python 3)

 The more difficult case is when the python module is emitted as part of
 the build of a larger module.  Some examples:
  - the build of rpm itself emits an rpm-python subpackage.
  - Another example is the postgres srpm, which emits a
 postgresql-python subpackage.

 In a quick attempt at seeing other examples, on my laptop (F11), here
 are the packages installed that provide python modules where the package
 name differs from the srpm name:
 $ rpm -qf /usr/lib/python2.*/site-packages/* | grep -v is not owned |

SIA, this is off of topic , i am sure. BUT, it is very strange that could be
exists, perhaps, some file or directory  not owned by someone. Isn't it ?

 sort | uniq | xargs rpm -q --qf %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}
 %{SOURCERPM}\n | sed -es/.src.rpm// | squeal -f table col0, col1 from
 - where col0 != col1
col0|  col1|

 +--+
 at-spi-python-1.26.0-1.fc11|  at-spi-1.26.0-1.fc11|
 audit-libs-python-1.7.13-1.fc11|   audit-1.7.13-1.fc11|
cracklib-python-2.8.13-4| cracklib-2.8.13-4|
  

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-03 Thread Dominic Hopf
Am Samstag, den 03.10.2009, 19:42 +0100 schrieb Peter Robinson:
 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
  Dominic Hopf, Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:46:04 +0200:
  syncevolution -- SyncML client for evolution
 
  I would like to maintain this package then.
 
  Talk with Peter Robinson about comaintainership.
 
 I'll quite happily have someone to help co-maintain it :) Just request
 it in pkgdb :)

Done. :)

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Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

wmii requires dmenu, libixp-0.4 and p9p. Packages for Debian already
exist. I guess it's doable for Fedora too.

Regards,
Ilyes Gouta.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Christoph Wickert
christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am Samstag, den 03.10.2009, 12:04 -0500 schrieb Adam Miller:
 Doesn't it mention somewhere in the wmii documentation that wmii is
 not intended for packaging because many of the user configuration
 options are to be set in a header file pre compile? I could be wrong
 but seem to remember reading that about both wmii and ion.

 That was dwm, which is also hosted at suckless.org and from the same
 author IIRC:
 Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it’s
 pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small
 and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions.

 http://dwm.suckless.org/

 -Adam

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Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Till Maas
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 10:12:04AM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:

 Do we have wmii (a window manager, http://wmii.suckless.org) packaged
 for Fedora?

I packaged it a while ago for myself, but I am currently using xmonad.
Maybe you can use my old SPECS / SRPMS:

http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/libixp-0.2-1.src.rpm
http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/libixp.spec
http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/wmii-3.5.1-1.src.rpm
http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/wmii-4.0-0.1.20060705.src.rpm
http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/wmii.spec

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Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Till,

Is it in line with rawhide? Did you ever pushed it into koji? Do you
have a packaged p2p (plan9 on Unix)?

-Ilyes

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 10:12:04AM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:

 Do we have wmii (a window manager, http://wmii.suckless.org) packaged
 for Fedora?

 I packaged it a while ago for myself, but I am currently using xmonad.
 Maybe you can use my old SPECS / SRPMS:

 http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/libixp-0.2-1.src.rpm
 http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/libixp.spec
 http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/wmii-3.5.1-1.src.rpm
 http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/wmii-4.0-0.1.20060705.src.rpm
 http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/wmii.spec

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Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Till Maas
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 11:10:35PM +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote:

 Is it in line with rawhide? Did you ever pushed it into koji? Do you
 have a packaged p2p (plan9 on Unix)?

I never submitted it into Fedora, I just created the SPEC for myself to
test wmii. As you can see from the dates of the changelogs, the files
are from February 2007 and probably need some adjusting. I don't think I
created a SPEC for p2p.

Regards
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clutter-cairomm is obsolete and should be retired

2009-10-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Hi,

(I've already mailed this to the maintainer on October 1st, no answer so far.)

clutter-cairomm has longstanding broken dependencies in Fedora 12:
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires 
pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)

It turns out this is because clutter-cairo, which this was wrapping, isn't in
Fedora at all anymore, clutter obsoletes it:
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/clutter/devel/clutter.spec?r1=1.28r2=1.29
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2005

Upstream also considers it obsolete:
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/clutter-cairomm/commit/?id=cb06f43f509b6609ddc055b08aa1a3d7a43d500e

and there will apparently be no new release to work with the new Clutter API,
instead cluttermm should be used directly.

So IMHO we should:
1. have cluttermm obsolete clutter-cairomm and
2. follow the package retirement policy: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life for
clutter-cairomm, in particular get it blocked from F12 by rel-eng as soon as
possible.

Nothing in Rawhide requires clutter-cairomm according to:
repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires --alldeps clutter-cairomm

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[Bug 526058] Review Request: sil-scheherazade-fonts - SIL Scheherazade Arabic Script Unicode Font

2009-10-03 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526058


Hedayat Vatankhah heda...@grad.com changed:

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   Flag|needinfo?(heda...@grad.com) |




--- Comment #3 from Hedayat Vatankhah heda...@grad.com  2009-10-03 11:16:16 
EDT ---
All done. This is the koji build link:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1725774

Sorry for the mistakes in the previous package. I overlooked some details! 
Thanks for the offer. I'm already a packager. 

I hope that this one will pass your filter ;)

Thanks again.

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--- Comment #4 from Hedayat Vatankhah heda...@grad.com  2009-10-03 12:31:48 
EDT ---
Oops! There is something wrong with me! :P

SPEC URL:
http://hedayat.fedorapeople.org/reviews/sil-scheherazade-fonts/sil-scheherazade-fonts.spec
SRPM URL:
http://hedayat.fedorapeople.org/reviews/sil-scheherazade-fonts/sil-scheherazade-fonts-1.001-2.fc11.src.rpm

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[Bug 477472] [tuxtype2] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||1.7.5-1.fc11
 Resolution||ERRATA




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[Bug 477472] [tuxtype2] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #13 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
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tuxtype2-1.7.5-1.fc11 has been pushed to the Fedora 11 stable repository.  If
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 512079] Review Request: oflb-prociono-fonts - A serif font created by Barry Schwartz

2009-10-03 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #9 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-10-03 17:30:21 EDT ---
cvs done with F-12 added.

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2009-10-03 Thread Ankur Sinha
Author: ankursinha

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-prociono-fonts/F-10
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv4472/F-10

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log oflb-prociono-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
oflb-prociono-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
* Sun Oct 4 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject DOT org 
- 20090715-2
- initial cvs commit



--- NEW FILE import.log ---
oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2_fc11:F-10:oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc11.src.rpm:1254629433


--- NEW FILE oflb-prociono-fonts-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
  alias
familyserif/family
prefer
  familyProciono/family
/prefer
  /alias
  alias
familyProciono/family
default
  familyserif/family
/default
  /alias
/fontconfig


--- NEW FILE oflb-prociono-fonts.spec ---
%global fontnameoflb-prociono
%global fontconf62-%{fontname}.conf

Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
Version:20090715
Release:2%{?dist}
Summary:A text roman with standard and discretionary ligatures, 
class-based kerning 
Group:  User Interface/X
License:Public Domain
URL:http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/chemoelectric/206
Source0:
http://openfontlibrary.org/people/chemoelectric/chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip
Source1:%{name}-fontconfig.conf

BuildRoot:  %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)

BuildArch:  noarch
BuildRequires:  fontforge,fontpackages-devel
Requires:   fontpackages-filesystem

%description
A serif font created by Barry Schwartz

The name is pronounced pro-tsee-O-no and is Esperanto for 
either raccoon or the star Procyon. The author prefers to 
think of this font as a raccoon.

%prep
%setup -qc -n chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip

%build
fontforge -lang=ff -script - *.sfd EOF
i = 1 
while ( i  \$argc )
  Open (\$argv[i], 1)
  Generate (\$fontname + .ttf)
  PrintSetup (5) 
  PrintFont (0, 0, , \$fontname + -sample.pdf)
  Close()
  i++ 
endloop
EOF

%install
rm -fr %{buildroot}

install -m 755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}
install -m 644 -p *.ttf %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}

install -m 755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}

install -m 644 -p %{SOURCE1} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}

ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/%{fontconf}

%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot}

%_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} *.ttf

%doc LICENSE

%changelog
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject DOT org
- 20090715-2
- Made changes according to bugzilla #512079
* Thu Jul 16 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursi...@fedoraproject.org
- 20090715-1
- Initial RPM build.


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-prociono-fonts/F-10/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  3 Oct 2009 21:31:23 -   1.1
+++ .cvsignore  4 Oct 2009 04:13:47 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-prociono-fonts/F-10/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 3 Oct 2009 21:31:24 -   1.1
+++ sources 4 Oct 2009 04:13:47 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+9348a003073fda8723fc49c921b1efa8  chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip

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2009-10-03 Thread Ankur Sinha
Author: ankursinha

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-prociono-fonts/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv7464/F-11

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log oflb-prociono-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
oflb-prociono-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
* Sun Oct 4 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject DOT org
- 20090715-2
- initial cvs commit



--- NEW FILE import.log ---
oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2_fc11:F-11:oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc11.src.rpm:1254629631


--- NEW FILE oflb-prociono-fonts-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
  alias
familyserif/family
prefer
  familyProciono/family
/prefer
  /alias
  alias
familyProciono/family
default
  familyserif/family
/default
  /alias
/fontconfig


--- NEW FILE oflb-prociono-fonts.spec ---
%global fontnameoflb-prociono
%global fontconf62-%{fontname}.conf

Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
Version:20090715
Release:2%{?dist}
Summary:A text roman with standard and discretionary ligatures, 
class-based kerning 
Group:  User Interface/X
License:Public Domain
URL:http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/chemoelectric/206
Source0:
http://openfontlibrary.org/people/chemoelectric/chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip
Source1:%{name}-fontconfig.conf

BuildRoot:  %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)

BuildArch:  noarch
BuildRequires:  fontforge,fontpackages-devel
Requires:   fontpackages-filesystem

%description
A serif font created by Barry Schwartz

The name is pronounced pro-tsee-O-no and is Esperanto for 
either raccoon or the star Procyon. The author prefers to 
think of this font as a raccoon.

%prep
%setup -qc -n chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip

%build
fontforge -lang=ff -script - *.sfd EOF
i = 1 
while ( i  \$argc )
  Open (\$argv[i], 1)
  Generate (\$fontname + .ttf)
  PrintSetup (5) 
  PrintFont (0, 0, , \$fontname + -sample.pdf)
  Close()
  i++ 
endloop
EOF

%install
rm -fr %{buildroot}

install -m 755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}
install -m 644 -p *.ttf %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}

install -m 755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}

install -m 644 -p %{SOURCE1} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}

ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/%{fontconf}

%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot}

%_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} *.ttf

%doc LICENSE

%changelog
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject DOT org
- 20090715-2
- Made changes according to bugzilla #512079
* Thu Jul 16 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursi...@fedoraproject.org
- 20090715-1
- Initial RPM build.


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-prociono-fonts/F-11/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  3 Oct 2009 21:31:23 -   1.1
+++ .cvsignore  4 Oct 2009 04:16:15 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-prociono-fonts/F-11/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 3 Oct 2009 21:31:24 -   1.1
+++ sources 4 Oct 2009 04:16:15 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+9348a003073fda8723fc49c921b1efa8  chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip

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[Bug 512079] Review Request: oflb-prociono-fonts - A serif font created by Barry Schwartz

2009-10-03 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #10 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-10-04 00:25:49 EDT ---
oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc11 has been submitted as an update for Fedora
11.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc11

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2009-10-03 Thread Ankur Sinha
Author: ankursinha

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-prociono-fonts/F-12
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv26907/F-12

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log oflb-prociono-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
oflb-prociono-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
* Sun Oct 4 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject DOT org
- initial cvs commit



--- NEW FILE import.log ---
oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2_fc11:F-12:oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc11.src.rpm:1254632159


--- NEW FILE oflb-prociono-fonts-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
  alias
familyserif/family
prefer
  familyProciono/family
/prefer
  /alias
  alias
familyProciono/family
default
  familyserif/family
/default
  /alias
/fontconfig


--- NEW FILE oflb-prociono-fonts.spec ---
%global fontnameoflb-prociono
%global fontconf62-%{fontname}.conf

Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
Version:20090715
Release:2%{?dist}
Summary:A text roman with standard and discretionary ligatures, 
class-based kerning 
Group:  User Interface/X
License:Public Domain
URL:http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/chemoelectric/206
Source0:
http://openfontlibrary.org/people/chemoelectric/chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip
Source1:%{name}-fontconfig.conf

BuildRoot:  %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)

BuildArch:  noarch
BuildRequires:  fontforge,fontpackages-devel
Requires:   fontpackages-filesystem

%description
A serif font created by Barry Schwartz

The name is pronounced pro-tsee-O-no and is Esperanto for 
either raccoon or the star Procyon. The author prefers to 
think of this font as a raccoon.

%prep
%setup -qc -n chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip

%build
fontforge -lang=ff -script - *.sfd EOF
i = 1 
while ( i  \$argc )
  Open (\$argv[i], 1)
  Generate (\$fontname + .ttf)
  PrintSetup (5) 
  PrintFont (0, 0, , \$fontname + -sample.pdf)
  Close()
  i++ 
endloop
EOF

%install
rm -fr %{buildroot}

install -m 755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}
install -m 644 -p *.ttf %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}

install -m 755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}

install -m 644 -p %{SOURCE1} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}

ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/%{fontconf}

%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot}

%_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} *.ttf

%doc LICENSE

%changelog
* Tue Sep 29 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject DOT org
- 20090715-2
- Made changes according to bugzilla #512079
* Thu Jul 16 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursi...@fedoraproject.org
- 20090715-1
- Initial RPM build.


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-prociono-fonts/F-12/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  3 Oct 2009 21:31:23 -   1.1
+++ .cvsignore  4 Oct 2009 04:57:54 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/oflb-prociono-fonts/F-12/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 3 Oct 2009 21:31:24 -   1.1
+++ sources 4 Oct 2009 04:57:54 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+9348a003073fda8723fc49c921b1efa8  chemoelectric_-_Prociono.zip

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[Bug 512079] Review Request: oflb-prociono-fonts - A serif font created by Barry Schwartz

2009-10-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512079





--- Comment #12 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-10-04 01:17:14 EDT ---
oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc12 has been submitted as an update for Fedora
12.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/oflb-prociono-fonts-20090715-2.fc12

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New font package : oflb-prociono-fonts

2009-10-03 Thread Ankur Sinha
hi folks, 

I'm happy to announce that oflb-prociono-fonts have been packaged for
fedora and pushed to Bodhi. :)

Please have a look at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OFLB_Prociono_fonts


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Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-10-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 13:44:39 -0400,
  Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Did other attendees visit the URL to indicate their available times?

It didn't work for me. I got a 410 status. Probably it didn't like
my browser config, since it seems to have worked for others.
I probably don't need to be at the meeting, but will attend if it doesn't
end up being a bad time. Otherwise I'll try to leave xchat running and
see what happened afterwords.
If people are interested, I'll have a machine that I won't mind reinstalling
to set up a test environment if that will be useful. If people want that,
I'll need to get some details from someone, but whoever that someone is
can just talk to me at a convenient time for both of us.

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Re: update kernel in liveusb

2009-10-03 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
On 09/26/2009 06:18 PM, Stewart Adam wrote:

 On 2009/09/13 9:28 AM, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote:
 hi,

 is there a _easy and fast_ way to update the kernel in the
 liveusb distribution ?

 You can find out more information about this process by taking at the
 tools in the livecd-tools repository on Fedora Hosted... But in short it
 seems this goes into /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd:

I call this the hard and long way ;-)

   LIVEOS=yes
   PROBE=no
   MODULES+=squashfs ext4 ext3 ext2 vfat msdos 
   MODULES+=sr_mod sd_mod ide-cd cdrom 
   MODULES+=ehci_hcd uhci_hcd ohci_hcd 
   MODULES+=usb_storage usbhid 
   MODULES+=firewire-sbp2 firewire-ohci 
   MODULES+=sbp2 ohci1394 ieee1394 
   MODULES+=mmc_block sdhci sdhci-pci 
   MODULES+=pata_pcmcia  
   MODULES+==ata sym53c8xx aic7xxx mptsas udf

 I'm not sure about the =ata part, that's what seems to happen when you
 follow the script's logic in imgcreate/live.py. Give it a try, but if
 mkinitrd fails to work then try removing the = from the beginning of
 =ata or even just remove =ata completely.
 

Original initrd brings more modules:

aic7xxx ata_generic crc-itu-t drm ext2 fat firewire-core firewire-ohci 
firewire-sbp2 i2c-algo-bit i2c-core i810 i830 i915 mga mmc_block mmc_core 
mptbase mptsas mptscsih msdos nouveau output pata_acpi pata_ali pata_amd 
pata_artop pata_atiixp pata_cmd640 pata_cmd64x pata_cs5520 pata_cs5530 
pata_cs5535 pata_cs5536 pata_cypress pata_efar pata_hpt366 pata_hpt37x 
pata_hpt3x2n pata_hpt3x3 pata_it8213 pata_it821x pata_jmicron pata_marvell 
pata_mpiix pata_netcell pata_ninja32 pata_ns87410 pata_ns87415 pata_oldpiix 
pata_optidma pata_opti pata_pcmcia pata_pdc2027x pata_pdc202xx_old pata_qdi 
pata_sch pata_serverworks pata_sil680 pata_sis pata_sl82c105 pata_triflex 
pata_via r128 radeon sata_inic162x sata_mv sata_nv sata_promise sata_qstor 
sata_sil24 sata_sil sata_sis sata_svw sata_sx4 sata_uli sata_via sata_vsc 
savage scsi_transport_sas scsi_transport_spi sdhci sdhci-pci sis squashfs 
sym53c8xx tdfx udf usb-storage vfat via video

I get the list doing:
$ cp initrd0.img img.gz ; gunzip img.gz
$ mkdir d ; cd d ; cpio -idv   ../img
$ (for i in `find .  | grep \.ko$`; do basename $i | sed 's/.ko//'  ; done ) 
| sort

 Once /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd file is in place, create your new initrd
 image with mkinitrd (remember if applicable to restore the system's
 /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd back). Then, copy your newly created initrd
 image and kernel image (/boot/vmlinuz-$version) into the sysconfig
 directory of the LiveUSB and change the syslinux or grub boot
 configuration files appropriately (these are also in the syslinux/
 directory on the USB key).

here I use mkliveinitrd.

*I believe it should have a easiest way to do it.*

-thanks-

regards,
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Re: [RFE] x86_64 kernel running in i386 distribution

2009-10-03 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
On 09/13/2009 03:58 PM, Amit Shah wrote:

 On (Sun) Sep 13 2009 [15:47:09], Xose Vazquez Perez wrote:
 hi,

 would it be possible to adapt the i386 distribucion
 to run also the x86_64 kernel ?
 
 You can just 'yum install kernel.x86_64' and that'll work.

I did it in Fedora-11_i386 and there is no x86_64 kernel package.
maybe you are talking about fedora 12 ??


Time ago I installed a Fedora-10 x86_64 kernel in the Fedora_10 i386
distribution but I got troubles when yum was trying to get updates.
Otherwise all was running OK.


-thanks-

regards,
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que yo aquí tengo por mío cuanto abarca el mar bravío, a quien nadie
impuso leyes. Y no hay playa, sea cualquiera, ni bandera de esplendor,
que no sienta mi derecho y dé pecho a mi valor.»

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Re: libflashplayer downloaded to memory?

2009-10-03 Thread Ed Greshko
gil...@altern.org wrote:
 gil...@altern.org wrote:
 
 Thanks. So we're all equally shut off from information...

 What about this now:

 http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/enquete/2009-2010/Reportage.asp?idDoc=92141autoPlay=http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2009/CBFT/Enquete200910012000.asx,%20http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2009/CBFT/Enquete200910012016.asx,%20http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2009/CBFT/Enquete200910012034.asx

 As you can see, there are 3 parts and my viewer won't allow me to switch
 from one to the next except by copying the urls. Any cleaner way to do
 this?


   
 I hope you find someone else to help you with your favorite site.  :-)
 :-)
 

 Come on, that's an easy one! Look at this one for instance:

 http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/sophie_paquin/saison4/

 Click the picture below and try to get to part 2, any way you want.
   
Since you have asked so nicely, I did
 I believe you must have the Moonlight crap installed.
   
Nono moonlight.

I could not test this with F11 since I have my F11 system in a non-GUI
configuration at the moment testing some other stuff.  ButI think it
will work just as well as my RHELv4.8.

I use mplayer and its associated plugin.  As a matter of fact, I found a
link on that site that when pressed brings up a window suggesting the
user get mplayer to view their content with my environment.  (Please
don't ask me where I found it...it was while using a system no fully
configured for video content.)

When I open http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/sophie_paquin/saison4/
it brings up a single frame with a large white arrow on a blue
background at the lower right.  I can click on that to start play.

At the bottom of the video frame is a control bar.  The far right is for
audio control.  To the right of that is a slider to control where in the
video stream you which to navigate.  To the right of that is a 3 segment
box.  The middle of the segment displays 1/5.  The right and left
segments contain  and  respectively.  These can be used to
navigate between the various segments.  The left most control is
play/pause for the video.

So, it works just fine for me using mplayerplug-in 3.50.

If and when I get the chance I'll do the same on F11 with the mplayer
that I have installed on it.   But, don't expect it to be soon. 




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bug in fedora 11

2009-10-03 Thread sandeep Patel
hello everyone.
 i found this type of bug in my fedora 11.
(I)x.org loaded video driver of...
(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so
(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//fbdev_drv.so
(II) Unloading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
(II) Unloading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//fbdev_drv.so
(==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
(III)  Desktop is: GNOME
(IV)   openoffice.org-kde version is: package openoffice.org-kde is not
installed
(V)libgcj version is: libgcj-4.4.1-2.fc11-x86_64
(VI)   kernel is: Linux 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Aug 24
17:17:40 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
(VII)  OpenOffice.org core rpm version is:
openoffice.org-core-3.1.1-19.1.fc11-x86_64
(VIII) accessibility is: true
(IX)   gtk theme is: Nodoka
(X)icon theme is: Gion
(XI)   metacity theme is: Quiet-Human
(XII)  fedora release is: Fedora release 11 (Leonidas)
(XIII) LANG is: en_US.UTF-8
...start free space details ...
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda3 30963708   9789524  19601320  34% /
/dev/sda3 30963708   9789524  19601320  34% /
...end free space details ...
...start (default) java details ...
java version 1.6.0_0
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.5) (fedora-27.b16.fc11-x86_64)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.0-b15, mixed mode)
...end (default) java details ...
...start sestatus details ...
SELinux status: enabled
SELinuxfs mount:/selinux
Current mode:   enforcing
Mode from config file:  enforcing
Policy version: 24
Policy from config file:targeted
...end sestatus details ...
...start stackreport details ...
0x7fd881208c6c: 0x1eb048:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3
+ 0x37c6c
0x7fd88120978e: 0x1eb048:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3
+ 0x3878e
0x3623433370: 0x167b40: /lib64/libc.so.6 + 0x33370
0x7fd872f61003: 0x1b5b8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/libreg.so.3 +
0x7003
0x7fd872f65f34: 0x1b5b8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/libreg.so.3 +
0xbf34
0x7fd8731c0010: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x4a010
0x7fd8731c59e6: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x4f9e6
0x7fd8731affdb: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x39fdb
0x7fd8731afdd7: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x39dd7
0x7fd8731afdd7: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x39dd7
0x7fd8731afdd7: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x39dd7
0x7fd8731b0331: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x3a331
0x7fd8731b1e99: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x3be99
0x7fd8731b47f2: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x3e7f2
0x7fd8731b0c17: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x3ac17
0x7fd8731acff4: 0xbc6d8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x36ff4
0x7fd87bbff235: 0xaa6b8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
0x8c235
(framework::TitleHelper::impl_appendEvalVersion(rtl::OUStringBuffer) +
0xc5)
0x7fd87bc01fd5: 0xaa6b8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
0x8efd5
(framework::TitleHelper::impl_updateTitleForFrame(com::sun::star::uno::Referencecom::sun::star::frame::XFrame
const) + 0x115)
0x7fd87bc02545: 0xaa6b8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
0x8f545 (framework::TitleHelper::impl_updateTitle() + 0x3b5)
0x7fd87bc0280e: 0xaa6b8:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
0x8f80e
(framework::TitleHelper::frameAction(com::sun::star::frame::FrameActionEvent
const) + 0x1ee)
0x7fd86db96ffc: 0x334c88:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
0xf6ffc
0x7fd86db9e81b: 0x334c88:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
0xfe81b
0x7fd86dba0e50: 0x334c88:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
0x100e50
0x7fd86db56d7c: 0x334c88:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
0xb6d7c
0x7fd86db57a8f: 0x334c88:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
0xb7a8f
0x7fd86db595f0: 0x334c88:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
0xb95f0
0x7fd87e7c4e4a: 0x3e1108:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcllx.so +
0x326e4a
0x7fd87e76412d: 0x3e1108:
/usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcllx.so +
0x2c612d
0x7fd874735588: 0x8dad0: /usr/lib64/
openoffice.org/basis3.1/program/libvclplug_genlx.so + 0x60588
(SalDisplay::DispatchInternalEvent() + 0xb8)
0x7fd8749acb60: 0x56ac8: /usr/lib64/

Re: bug in fedora 11

2009-10-03 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
no idea, I have similar problem today with gnome

I have switched to kde and it's working


On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:12 AM, sandeep Patel leosandee...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello everyone.
  i found this type of bug in my fedora 11.
 (I)    x.org loaded video driver of...
 (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so
 (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
 (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//fbdev_drv.so
 (II) Unloading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
 (II) Unloading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//fbdev_drv.so
 (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
 (III)  Desktop is: GNOME
 (IV)   openoffice.org-kde version is: package openoffice.org-kde is not
 installed
 (V)    libgcj version is: libgcj-4.4.1-2.fc11-x86_64
 (VI)   kernel is: Linux 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Aug 24
 17:17:40 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
 (VII)  OpenOffice.org core rpm version is:
 openoffice.org-core-3.1.1-19.1.fc11-x86_64
 (VIII) accessibility is: true
 (IX)   gtk theme is: Nodoka
 (X)    icon theme is: Gion
 (XI)   metacity theme is: Quiet-Human
 (XII)  fedora release is: Fedora release 11 (Leonidas)
 (XIII) LANG is: en_US.UTF-8
 ...start free space details ...
 Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda3 30963708   9789524  19601320  34% /
 /dev/sda3 30963708   9789524  19601320  34% /
 ...end free space details ...
 ...start (default) java details ...
 java version 1.6.0_0
 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.5) (fedora-27.b16.fc11-x86_64)
 OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.0-b15, mixed mode)
 ...end (default) java details ...
 ...start sestatus details ...
 SELinux status: enabled
 SELinuxfs mount:    /selinux
 Current mode:   enforcing
 Mode from config file:  enforcing
 Policy version: 24
 Policy from config file:    targeted
 ...end sestatus details ...
 ...start stackreport details ...
 0x7fd881208c6c: 0x1eb048:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3
 + 0x37c6c
 0x7fd88120978e: 0x1eb048:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3
 + 0x3878e
 0x3623433370: 0x167b40: /lib64/libc.so.6 + 0x33370
 0x7fd872f61003: 0x1b5b8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/libreg.so.3 +
 0x7003
 0x7fd872f65f34: 0x1b5b8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/libreg.so.3 +
 0xbf34
 0x7fd8731c0010: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x4a010
 0x7fd8731c59e6: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x4f9e6
 0x7fd8731affdb: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x39fdb
 0x7fd8731afdd7: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x39dd7
 0x7fd8731afdd7: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x39dd7
 0x7fd8731afdd7: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x39dd7
 0x7fd8731b0331: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x3a331
 0x7fd8731b1e99: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x3be99
 0x7fd8731b47f2: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x3e7f2
 0x7fd8731b0c17: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x3ac17
 0x7fd8731acff4: 0xbc6d8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 + 0x36ff4
 0x7fd87bbff235: 0xaa6b8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
 0x8c235
 (framework::TitleHelper::impl_appendEvalVersion(rtl::OUStringBuffer) +
 0xc5)
 0x7fd87bc01fd5: 0xaa6b8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
 0x8efd5
 (framework::TitleHelper::impl_updateTitleForFrame(com::sun::star::uno::Referencecom::sun::star::frame::XFrame
 const) + 0x115)
 0x7fd87bc02545: 0xaa6b8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
 0x8f545 (framework::TitleHelper::impl_updateTitle() + 0x3b5)
 0x7fd87bc0280e: 0xaa6b8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
 0x8f80e
 (framework::TitleHelper::frameAction(com::sun::star::frame::FrameActionEvent
 const) + 0x1ee)
 0x7fd86db96ffc: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0xf6ffc
 0x7fd86db9e81b: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0xfe81b
 0x7fd86dba0e50: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0x100e50
 0x7fd86db56d7c: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0xb6d7c
 0x7fd86db57a8f: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0xb7a8f
 0x7fd86db595f0: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0xb95f0
 0x7fd87e7c4e4a: 0x3e1108:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcllx.so +
 0x326e4a
 

Re: libflashplayer downloaded to memory?

2009-10-03 Thread Ed Greshko
Ed Greshko wrote:

 If and when I get the chance I'll do the same on F11 with the mplayer
 that I have installed on it.   But, don't expect it to be soon. 


   
Well  I actually had an F11 snapshot saved that I could use

Works exactly the same as my RHELv4 system.  The F11 system has

gnome-mplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.i586
mplayer-1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11.i586
gnome-mplayer-common-0.9.7-1.fc11.i586
mplayer-gui-1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11.i586
gecko-mediaplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.i586

installed along with the requisite gstreamer stuff



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Re: location of popup helpers question

2009-10-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote:
 Greetings;
 
 I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or
 relocate.
 
 It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave
  the mouse sitting on an icon.  It is useful for some things, but I have
  kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which
  puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the
  top of the main window.
 
 And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which
 time the messages subject line is hidden.  Having to move the mouse to a
 clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to
 aggravate my arthritis.
 
 Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout
 be set down to maybe 2 seconds?  If so, what file do I edit to accomplish
 this?
 
I have had a reply from a developer.  It seems that this is standard toolbar 
behaviour, and not part of kmail.  It probably can't be changed.

Anne


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Re: bug in fedora 11

2009-10-03 Thread Steven M. Parrish
 hello everyone.
  i found this type of bug in my fedora 11.
 (I)x.org loaded video driver of...
 (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so
 (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
 (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//fbdev_drv.so
 (II) Unloading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
 (II) Unloading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//fbdev_drv.so
 (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
 (III)  Desktop is: GNOME
 (IV)   openoffice.org-kde version is: package openoffice.org-kde is not
 installed
 (V)libgcj version is: libgcj-4.4.1-2.fc11-x86_64
 (VI)   kernel is: Linux 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Aug 24
 17:17:40 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
 (VII)  OpenOffice.org core rpm version is:
 openoffice.org-core-3.1.1-19.1.fc11-x86_64
 (VIII) accessibility is: true
 (IX)   gtk theme is: Nodoka
 (X)icon theme is: Gion
 (XI)   metacity theme is: Quiet-Human
 (XII)  fedora release is: Fedora release 11 (Leonidas)
 (XIII) LANG is: en_US.UTF-8
 ...start free space details ...
 Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda3 30963708   9789524  19601320  34% /
 /dev/sda3 30963708   9789524  19601320  34% /
 ...end free space details ...
 ...start (default) java details ...
 java version 1.6.0_0
 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.5) (fedora-27.b16.fc11-x86_64)
 OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.0-b15, mixed mode)
 ...end (default) java details ...
 ...start sestatus details ...
 SELinux status: enabled
 SELinuxfs mount:/selinux
 Current mode:   enforcing
 Mode from config file:  enforcing
 Policy version: 24
 Policy from config file:targeted
 ...end sestatus details ...
 ...start stackreport details ...
 0x7fd881208c6c: 0x1eb048:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so
 .3 + 0x37c6c
 0x7fd88120978e: 0x1eb048:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so
 .3 + 0x3878e
 0x3623433370: 0x167b40: /lib64/libc.so.6 + 0x33370
 0x7fd872f61003: 0x1b5b8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/libreg.so.3 +
 0x7003
 0x7fd872f65f34: 0x1b5b8: /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/libreg.so.3 +
 0xbf34
 0x7fd8731c0010: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x4a010
 0x7fd8731c59e6: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x4f9e6
 0x7fd8731affdb: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x39fdb
 0x7fd8731afdd7: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x39dd7
 0x7fd8731afdd7: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x39dd7
 0x7fd8731afdd7: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x39dd7
 0x7fd8731b0331: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x3a331
 0x7fd8731b1e99: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x3be99
 0x7fd8731b47f2: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x3e7f2
 0x7fd8731b0c17: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x3ac17
 0x7fd8731acff4: 0xbc6d8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so+ 0x36ff4
 0x7fd87bbff235: 0xaa6b8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
 0x8c235
 (framework::TitleHelper::impl_appendEvalVersion(rtl::OUStringBuffer) +
 0xc5)
 0x7fd87bc01fd5: 0xaa6b8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
 0x8efd5
 (framework::TitleHelper::impl_updateTitleForFrame(com::sun::star::uno::Refe
 rencecom::sun::star::frame::XFrame const) + 0x115)
 0x7fd87bc02545: 0xaa6b8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
 0x8f545 (framework::TitleHelper::impl_updateTitle() + 0x3b5)
 0x7fd87bc0280e: 0xaa6b8:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwelx.so +
 0x8f80e
 (framework::TitleHelper::frameAction(com::sun::star::frame::FrameActionEven
 t const) + 0x1ee)
 0x7fd86db96ffc: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0xf6ffc
 0x7fd86db9e81b: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0xfe81b
 0x7fd86dba0e50: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0x100e50
 0x7fd86db56d7c: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0xb6d7c
 0x7fd86db57a8f: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0xb7a8f
 0x7fd86db595f0: 0x334c88:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libfwklx.so +
 0xb95f0
 0x7fd87e7c4e4a: 0x3e1108:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcllx.so +
 0x326e4a
 0x7fd87e76412d: 0x3e1108:
 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcllx.so +
 0x2c612d
 0x7fd874735588: 0x8dad0: /usr/lib64/
 

Re: location of popup helpers question

2009-10-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 October 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote:
 Greetings;

 I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off,
 or relocate.

 It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave
  the mouse sitting on an icon.  It is useful for some things, but I have
  kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which
  puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along
 the top of the main window.

 And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during
 which time the messages subject line is hidden.  Having to move the mouse
 to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends
 to aggravate my arthritis.

 Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display
 timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds?  If so, what file do I edit to
 accomplish this?

I have had a reply from a developer.  It seems that this is standard
 toolbar behaviour, and not part of kmail.  It probably can't be changed.

Anne

As I've apparently found, I've wandered though the menu's
 exploring the whole thing basement to attic without stumbling over it.  To 
me, it is officially a PIMA.

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Re: [Bulk] Installing Windows afterFedora

2009-10-03 Thread Fabio Jara
I have the same issue about windows, recently the university that i work
have buy a package of windows 7 and before that they have the windows Vista
and XP.

The internal system that they use here to manage all the database of
students work only on windows, so i put some effort into Virtual machine
work, and find out that it was the best solution to this issue, you can
install any windows ( at least in Fedora 11 i have tested ) and it works,
you have your own linux machine, you do not need to change to an OS that you
aren't used at.

Today, i have my Notebook HP with Fedora 11, and two Virtual Machines on it,
one with Windows XP and the other with Windows 7. An they work perfectly,
and the best side of it is that i have my Fedora :D ( yes, i'm in love with
Fedora ).

Hope my advice enlighten you to the good side of the force ( yes, that too )

My best regard.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:15 PM, William Case billli...@rogers.com wrote:

 Hi;

 On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 19:19 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
  I have managed to go for just under a decade without a Windows machine,
 but now
  I need to have such, and I'd like to add it to an existing machine with a
 large
  enough partition which was used as work area for a project since shipped.
 The
  problem is that while I've put Fedora (and Linux back to SLS and
 Slackware on
  2.2 kernels) on Windows machines, I haven't done it with anything else
 after,
  Linux has always been the last OS you'll ever need for dual boot.
 
  I'm not worried about the grub.conf, but the boot sector could be an
 issue, I
  have seen reports that XP with patches and Win7 check the boot sector now
 (XP at
  patch level 3). other than having to rewrite the boot sector, is that
 going to
  be an issue? Any other things I should know?
 

 I have had the same problem.  What I did was make sure of the grub
 instructions I wanted to use and wrote them down or printed them out --
 just in case all else failed and I needed written notes.  I made sure
 that I knew how to re-install using grub-install or grub or firstaid on
 my Fedora LiveCD or the DVD disk.  Once I had protected myself, I just
 installed WindowsXP and then re-installed grub.

 It was fast and easy (well not installing Windows -- but you know what I
 mean).

 This you should double check, but if I remember correctly, you only need
 to install Windows on the first partition if you are going to depend on
 the Windows boot loader.  Otherwise, you can chainload Windows from any
 partition as long has you correctly tell grub.conf where the windows
 partition is.  e.g.

 title Windows XP SP3
rootnoverify (hd0,5)
chainloader +1

 if windows has been installed on the first disk, 6th partition.



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Re: Router in Fedora. Alternative to Mikrotik

2009-10-03 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 12:57 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
 After some research about what Peter said i realize that your looking
 about the hardware of mikrotik, i was asking about the ROUTER OS that
 they use con that hardware. Something that can do the same, without
 editing and configuring all those services one by one. I already have
 a Fedora 11 Server with DNS, Apache, Samba, Mysql, DHCP and Squid
 configured and working. What i want to do is manage all of them, like
 adding users to Squid, and setting the bandwidth they can use  by
 user, that kind of stuff. A GUI interface is going to save me a lot of
 time.
 
 Also, i have Webmin installed, but it doesn't give me that kind of
 management.

To be pedantic, you won't manage them all with one interface.  Even for
tools for configuring one particular thing, you'll be switching between
different pages for different aspects of the configuration of it.  So,
on that note, it's not that different to use different tools to
configure different things.  Though, compared to some of the tools that
worked on two or more related, things (different services that work
together), you lose that convenience.

There's a plethora of GUI configuration tools that can be called up from
the menu, and I think there's still a control centre application which
bungs them all into a window (instead of a menu).

But I've always found the GUI tools to be limiting.  For instance, they
often only supported a small amount of the options you could configure,
and sometimes you had to understand how to manually configure something
to work out the GUI tool, anyway (e.g BIND configuration).

And, from time to time, they were out of date.  The thing that they
configured had changed, over time, but the third-party tool for
configuring them was still doing things the old, and incompatible, way.

Or they required the configuration file to be set up in a particular
way, or they stored a configuration somewhere else and updated the main
configuration with their own, making it impossible to manually configure
things as well.

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how to fix BUG: MAX_STACK_TRACE_ENTRIES too low!

2009-10-03 Thread jack craig

I get this on boot, how do i increase the max_stack_trace_entries?

sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
device-mapper: multipath: version 1.0.5 loaded
BUG: MAX_STACK_TRACE_ENTRIES too low!
turning off the locking correctness validator.
Pid: 974, comm: mount Not tainted 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i686.PAEdebug #1
Call Trace:
 [c075a209] ? printk+0x14/0x1b
 [c0457084] save_trace+0x7b/0x84
 [c04570ee] add_lock_to_list+0x61/0x93
 [c0458e9a] __lock_acquire+0x989/0xae5
 [c064a52a] ? ata_scsi_queuecmd+0x30/0x78
 [c064a52a] ? ata_scsi_queuecmd+0x30/0x78
 [c045908a] lock_acquire+0x94/0xb7
 [c064a52a] ? ata_scsi_queuecmd+0x30/0x78
 [c075c755] _spin_lock+0x23/0x53
 [c064a52a] ? ata_scsi_queuecmd+0x30/0x78
 [c064a52a] ata_scsi_queuecmd+0x30/0x78
 [c062d098] ? scsi_done+0x0/0x12
 [c062d2fa] scsi_dispatch_cmd+0x17c/0x1ec
 [c0632220] scsi_request_fn+0x32f/0x461
 [c05757f3] __generic_unplug_device+0x2e/0x31
 [c0575a66] generic_unplug_device+0x26/0x34
 [c0574027] blk_unplug+0x21/0x24
 [c06a7713] dm_table_unplug_all+0x36/0x7e
 [c075c54c] ? _read_unlock+0x22/0x25
 [c06a6251] dm_unplug_all+0x1f/0x29
 [c0574027] blk_unplug+0x21/0x24
 [c057403a] blk_backing_dev_unplug+0x10/0x12
 [c04d9b91] block_sync_page+0x31/0x35
 [c0494c4c] sync_page+0x42/0x4b
 [c075afc9] __wait_on_bit+0x39/0x60
 [c0494c0a] ? sync_page+0x0/0x4b
 [c0494e63] wait_on_page_bit+0x80/0x89
 [c0449cd4] ? wake_bit_function+0x0/0x3c
 [c04955cd] wait_on_page_writeback_range+0x52/0xdf
 [c0495703] ? __filemap_fdatawrite_range+0x5a/0x62
 [c04956a1] filemap_fdatawait+0x47/0x4f
 [c0495eab] filemap_write_and_wait+0x27/0x32
 [c04df3f3] sync_blockdev+0x1e/0x20
 [c04f3ab9] quota_sync_sb+0x45/0xd2
 [c04f3b6b] sync_dquots+0x25/0x10c
 [c04c1a75] __fsync_super+0x1c/0x6b
 [c04c1ad4] fsync_super+0x10/0x1e
 [c04c1b31] do_remount_sb+0x4f/0x1c1
 [c04d3230] do_mount+0x220/0x699
 [c0499b50] ? __get_free_pages+0x23/0x29
 [c04d3714] sys_mount+0x6b/0xa2
 [c040859d] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
EXT3 FS on dm-0, internal journal
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.

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Re: Latest updates are missing a dependency

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Ed Greshko wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Ed Greshko wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Ed Greshko wrote:

Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

An attempt to install the latest updates produced the following
errors from yumex.  Machine is x86_64 with all updates except the
latest.
jon

Missing Dependency: libibus.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package
ibus-chewing-1.2.0.20090818-1.fc11.x86_64 (installed)
Missing Dependency: libibus.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package
ibus-m17n-1.1.0.20090211-5.fc11.x86_64 (installed)
Missing Dependency: libibus.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package
ibus-hangul-1.1.0.20090328-2.fc11.x86_64 (installed)
Missing Dependency: libibus.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package
ibus-rawcode-1.0.0.20090303-3.fc11.x86_64 (installed)

  

This type of thing happens from time to time.  Lucky for us it isn't a
terminal disease.  If you desire to update other packages you can
always
do yum --skip-broken update.  And then chill for a time while the
broken issues get resolved.


Given that the upgrade installs a new kernel (2.6.30.8-64 from memory)
which doesn't do networking, more than chill is required. I did this
to my production laptop, then managed to do it again on a desktop.
Since it happened after midnight, I just saved a dmesg for
investigation, I assume all networking is dead since the desktop had
the same problem.

Manual booting into an older kernel worked on the desktop, the laptop
old kernel doesn't like something in the partial upgrade which did
take place, so I'm somewhat hung on that one.




All is working here just fine after skipping the broken updates.  So,
I've no idea as to what you've managed to accomplish.  But since you've
decided to keep all the dmesg output for investigation private I suspect
nobody will be able to help you either.


Didn't need help, just a few hours sleep and time to spend an hour
looking. dmesg actually just showed one NIC not detected, the one
needed for networking, of course. Problem solved.


Glad to hear it is working again.  Too bad you've decided not to
share what the solution to your problem was.  It is usually good form
when informing folks of an issue (that you seem to be connecting with
a given update )what the final solution was so as to help others who may
encounter the same issue.  We are left to wonder...why the NIC wasn't
detected...hardware issue?...and what was done to fix the problem...

The NIC not detected failed on the newest kernel because the upgrade failed 
before kmod-wl was upgraded. The previous kernel also didn't see the NIC, not 
sure why, the dmesg just didn't see it. It could have happened in my attempts to 
manually get things working again. The kernel before that, 2.6.29-?? saw the NIC 
and was what I finally used to finish the upgrade. I could have moved the 
machine to a cable and used the other NIC, that is a supported hardware.


Someone wrote and noted that they lost their console and were using a kmod video 
driver, that sounds like the same problem. They just booted the old kernel.


If there's a lesson here it's that you should keep a few (more than one) 
previous kernels in case an upgrade has an issue.


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Re: ibus still broken

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Craig White wrote:

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 16:51 -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote:

On 10/02/2009 03:08 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

yum downgrade ibus-libs
yum update

Hope this helps

I believe that Stuart's problem is that once you break ibus it will never dig 
its way out using only the 'upgrade' command, since something appears 
half-updated. I did successful upgrades on a number of system after the problem, 
but on the two systems which had an initial problem a simple upgrade fails. I 
will try downgrading and see if that helps. One system will not do networking 
since the upgrade failed, so I'm not sure what's up with that, it just broken.

I rpm -e all my ibus* and anthy packages, then reinstalled the
old versions from my f11 dvd repo.  I still have the same problem.
I also notice that the ibus desktop icon is still the new icon
(the one that appeared after I'd done the updates), not the icon
which was present after my original f11 install which I think
looked different.  So it seems that some unrevertible changes
have been made.  


I'm just not buying Bill's concept of breaking and never digging out.

That's your choice, I think Tait Clarridge hit the method to downgrade first, 
then rerun the upgrade. In another forum (chat room) someone said that the yum 
'clean' had been used, then upgrade succeeded in fixing the system.


Both of those suggestions indicate that using only the 'upgrade' command isn't 
the way to get things sane again. If it worked for you, fine, but I still put 
Tait's suggestion in my tricks folder, seems a robust thing to do, rather than 
repeating the unsuccessful upgrade.



It's easy enough as user to '$ mv ~/.ibus ~/.ibus-bak' and restart ibus
to create brand new settings (right click on ibus icon in system tray
and choose 'Restart')

and if your did this 'rpm -e' WITHOUT resorting to anything radical such
as '--nodeps' then if you create the new settings file as per above, it
should be back to where it was when you first installed it.

Likewise, if you did not do anything like '--nodeps' you should be able
to bring it up to date simply by doing 'yum update' and if that fails,
you should show us the text of where/how it failed.

Craig





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Re: ibus still broken

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Ed Greshko wrote:

Stuart McGraw wrote:
(ibus-daemon:21356): IBUS-DEBUG: From ::1.1 to :1.3, Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed : 
  Can not get value [engine/anthy/shortcut/wnn-add_word]
(ibus-daemon:21356): IBUS-DEBUG: From ::1.1 to :1.3, Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed : 
  Can not get value [engine/anthy/shortcut/wnn-start_setup]


They all have in common a message about not getting a value 
from engine/anthy/shortcut/something.  Perhaps these are 
normal?  If not, do they ring a bell with anyone?
I don't see any messages when I type the activate sequence 
(alt-grave) in some window.  

  
  

As a quick checkwhat I would do is to create a new user account and
see if things work for that new user.  This will then tell you if it is
simply something that is related to your settings

Hadn't thought of that, good idea.  Did so, enabled the IME and 
selected Anthy, but same problem exists in the new account.


  

The error messages I've not seen beforenor heard of.  Almost sounds
as if some other process has reserved the start/stop method.   Since a
new account would/should start out with a blank home directory without
any .ibus or .dbus directories it would suggest that the problem is
actually external to ibus.  I'm going to presume that the
.imsettings.log did not reveal anything either.

Would that survive a reboot under some conditions? I know some locks can get 
orphaned when problems occur. Is this something that could/should be cleared at 
boot?



You said you were running Gnome.  Does the same thing happen under KDE?

Like you saidsince it works for others then the problem is unique to
your system.  Even so, it would be a good idea to file a bugzilla.  The
developers may not read or pay much attention to this list and with a
bugzilla may actually have the answer to your problem.






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Re: ibus still broken

2009-10-03 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 13:07 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
  I'm just not buying Bill's concept of breaking and never digging
 out.
  
 That's your choice, I think Tait Clarridge hit the method to downgrade
 first, 
 then rerun the upgrade. In another forum (chat room) someone said that
 the yum 
 'clean' had been used, then upgrade succeeded in fixing the system.
 
 Both of those suggestions indicate that using only the 'upgrade'
 command isn't 
 the way to get things sane again. If it worked for you, fine, but I
 still put 
 Tait's suggestion in my tricks folder, seems a robust thing to do,
 rather than 
 repeating the unsuccessful upgrade.

it's about the assumption...

if a yum clean metadata fixes the issue, then it is not an issue that is
problematic for everyone but only those whose metadata contains a
package list of updates that won't work...it's a local problem.

I can assure you that neither I nor most have had to 'downgrade' in
order to upgrade.

Craig


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Re: Viewing answers to one's nntp posts in Thunderbird

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

gil...@altern.org wrote:

Is it possible to only view answers to one's usenet posts in Thunderbird,
and those of a few other posters, if possible.

Is it possible with any other newsgroup reader?

Seamonkey allows marking a thread as watched and viewing only watched threads 
with unread posts for nntp (but not mail, where it would be equally useful). 
Tbird may have the same concept, haven't used it since seamonkey added RSS 
functionality.


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Screensaver in F11 loses horizontal sync

2009-10-03 Thread Bob McConnell
I searched both Google and the archives of this list, but could not find 
the magic keys to produce useful answers.


I downloaded the Fedora 11(*) live CD and used it to install on two 
boxen. Both are showing the same problem. Everything works well until 
the screen saver kicks in. At that point the display loses sync and 
shows torn jagged diagonal lines across the screen. Any normal input 
triggers a recovery and returns to my regularly scheduled programs.


Fedora 11, KDE

Box 1:
  Dell GX270 SFF
  P-4/Xeon 2.6 GHz
  512 MB DDR RAM
  20 GB IDE drive
  Intel 865 Video Chip

Box 2:
  White box
  P-4/Celeron 1.0 GHz
  512 MB DDR RAM
  60 GB IDE drive
  Apollo ProMedia PLE133T/a Video chip

Both boxes are talking to a Dell E173FP display through a Compaq KVM. 
Display resolution is 1280x1024.


Where can I find instructions on how to re-configure the screen saver so 
it inherits the correct video settings?


Where are the rest of the video settings saved so I can enable some of 
the options that don't show up? For example, in System Settings-Dislay 
the second box only shows a 60 Hz Refresh option. I need to enable and 
select 75 Hz. The file I was expecting, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, is not there.


Where can I find instructions on how to install and switch to XFCE?

Bob McConnell
N2SPP

(*) I am trying out Fedora 11 for several reasons. First, at work we 
just switched hosting providers which also means we switched our servers 
from Red Hat to CentOS. After the switch, IT will no longer be managing 
our external or internal servers. So I need to learn enough about the 
environment to keep the development and QA servers in sync with the 
hosted servers. Second, Slackware 13 does not play well with the Intel 
video chips in most of my Dell computers. i.e. both the live CD and 
install CD produce unusable configurations even in CLI modes. I have 
been using Slackware since 1993, when it replaced my original Soft 
Landing Systems 1.02 system (kernel 0.99pl12). But I have not been happy 
with many of the recent choices made by that group. These two reasons 
finally shoved me past the tipping point to begin leaving Slackware.


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Re: libflashplayer downloaded to memory?

2009-10-03 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 11:38 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote:
  gil...@altern.org wrote:
 
  Thanks. So we're all equally shut off from information...
 
  What about this now:
 
  http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/enquete/2009-2010/Reportage.asp?idDoc=92141autoPlay=http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2009/CBFT/Enquete200910012000.asx,%20http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2009/CBFT/Enquete200910012016.asx,%20http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2009/CBFT/Enquete200910012034.asx
 
  As you can see, there are 3 parts and my viewer won't allow me to switch
  from one to the next except by copying the urls. Any cleaner way to do
  this?
 
 
  I hope you find someone else to help you with your favorite site.  :-)
  :-)
 
 Come on, that's an easy one! Look at this one for instance:
 
 http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/sophie_paquin/saison4/
 
 Click the picture below and try to get to part 2, any way you want.

I did and I gather this Émission du mercredi 7 octobre 2009 is what I
was supposed to play and it played fine (F11)

I didn't have to install any 'Moonlight crap' and the rest of your
message is just politics.

Craig

 
 I believe you must have the Moonlight crap installed.
 
 It's rather weird that those journalists do a very good job on anything
 that doesn't concern their employer but keep dead silent on anything
 concerning it. For instance, in this very good feature:
 
 http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2009-2010/riding_on_risk/video.html
 
 Hana Gartner says she's very surprized that the people she talks to want
 to remain anonymous for fear of loosing their jobs, but this bunch of
 sissy journalists never dare speak a word about their own employer and all
 its shenanigans.
 
 Politicians who stand a chance of being elected keep quiet too for fear
 that the wave that carries them to power might just die away.
 
 There's a mysterious side to information that nobody dares to examine. So,
 as true as some features might sound, what are they worth exactly?



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Re: Installing Windows afterFedora

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Ed Greshko wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

I have managed to go for just under a decade without a Windows
machine, but now I need to have such, and I'd like to add it to an
existing machine with a large enough partition which was used as work
area for a project since shipped. The problem is that while I've put
Fedora (and Linux back to SLS and Slackware on 2.2 kernels) on Windows
machines, I haven't done it with anything else after, Linux has always
been the last OS you'll ever need for dual boot.

I'm not worried about the grub.conf, but the boot sector could be an
issue, I have seen reports that XP with patches and Win7 check the
boot sector now (XP at patch level 3). other than having to rewrite
the boot sector, is that going to be an issue? Any other things I
should know?

Different people have different reasons for needing a Windows machine. 
They also have different requirements.  I also need a Windows machine

from time to time.  But, I find dual boot an unnecessary evil since my
requirements don't include something like game playing.  So, I've found
running Windows in a virtual machine a better option.  Just wondering if
you've considered that option.

I need to see how some video cards run under Windows, and while I did manage to 
pass a USB device into a VM (ubuntu) I think I would be better off to just have 
the OS directly on the bare metal, I suspect getting a PCI card to be ignored by 
Linux and used in a VM might be a learning curve leading to questions about 
timing issues.




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Re: Installing Windows afterFedora

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Craig White wrote:

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 19:19 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
I have managed to go for just under a decade without a Windows machine, but now 
I need to have such, and I'd like to add it to an existing machine with a large 
enough partition which was used as work area for a project since shipped. The 
problem is that while I've put Fedora (and Linux back to SLS and Slackware on 
2.2 kernels) on Windows machines, I haven't done it with anything else after, 
Linux has always been the last OS you'll ever need for dual boot.


I'm not worried about the grub.conf, but the boot sector could be an issue, I 
have seen reports that XP with patches and Win7 check the boot sector now (XP at 
patch level 3). other than having to rewrite the boot sector, is that going to 
be an issue? Any other things I should know?


I have seen some reports that certain hardware types require the Windows
bootloader code and if it is overwritten, say by grub, that it puts
Windows into repair mode when booting Windows but I have never
experienced that issue myself and I would think that you wouldn't
either.

That's the kind of thing I was worried about, I have had that issue with the 
Linux installed in the boot sector rather than the partition, but I haven't done 
Windows recently.



You can actually use the Windows bootloader to give you a choice of
which to boot instead of grub if you wish - not really that big of a
deal and there are many examples found easily with Google.

But if you have a Linux rescue boot disk (i.e. the installation DVD),
it's rather trivial to boot into rescue mode, chroot to /mnt/sysimage
and then 'grub-install /dev/sda' to reset the mbr for grub again, but
then you would have to create a grub entry for booting Windows - I have
sample at bottom).

Thanks, as noted I've set up the chain loader installing after Windows was in, 
but I never did it this way before. I even have examples of doing dual boot with 
LILO from back in the old days, although I don't ever expect to reuse them.


Note to others, do understand what the (hd0,1) means, that's typical for 
Windows first installs, but not for Windows as afterthought cases.



Craig

title Windows XP
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader +1






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Re: Installing Windows afterFedora

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Aldo Foot wrote:

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:

I have managed to go for just under a decade without a Windows machine, but
now I need to have such, and I'd like to add it to an existing machine with
a large enough partition which was used as work area for a project since
shipped. The problem is that while I've put Fedora (and Linux back to SLS
and Slackware on 2.2 kernels) on Windows machines, I haven't done it with
anything else after, Linux has always been the last OS you'll ever need
for dual boot.

I'm not worried about the grub.conf, but the boot sector could be an issue,
I have seen reports that XP with patches and Win7 check the boot sector now
(XP at patch level 3). other than having to rewrite the boot sector, is that
going to be an issue? Any other things I should know?

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I used to have the same concerns.
The only problem is that Windows must be installed first.


That's not happening here, I'll be adding Windows to an existing system.


I had WinXP installed in a PC, then installed F11. Clean setup. Later
decided to wipe the F11
and used the WinXP Repair feature to rewrite the Windows MBR and the
system would
go back to Windows only.  Once Win MBR was intalled and if I decided
not to erase
the F11 setup, then I'd reinstall GRUB to be back to dual boot.

You can change the boot with Win MBR by diddling the active/boot bit with fdisk 
(or could), but grub is cleaner. There's a Win boot manager, I haven't used it, 
and I think the M/B has a boot manager in the BIOS, which might be my way out if 
things go badly. ;-)


Thanks for the thought.

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Re: libflashplayer downloaded to memory?

2009-10-03 Thread gilpel
Ed Greshko wrote:

 gil...@altern.org wrote:

 Come on, that's an easy one! Look at this one for instance:

 http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/sophie_paquin/saison4/

 Click the picture below and try to get to part 2, any way you want.

 Since you have asked so nicely, I did

You're very kind :)

 When I open http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/sophie_paquin/saison4/
 it brings up a single frame with a large white arrow on a blue
 background at the lower right.  I can click on that to start play.

Same here.

 At the bottom of the video frame is a control bar.  The far right is for
 audio control.

Yeap!


 the middle of the segment displays 1/5.  The right and left
 segments contain  and  respectively.  These can be used to
 navigate between the various segments.

Not here. When I click those, 2/5 appears but 1/5 starts over.

 So, it works just fine for me using mplayerplug-in 3.50.

When i go to Edit = Preferences = Applications in Firefox, and I enter
mplayerplug-in in the search bar, under Action, I get Use mplayerplug-in
is now gecko-mediaplayer 0.9.7 (in Firefox). The version of
gecko-mediaplayer I have is, more precisely:

gecko-mediaplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.x86_64

Yum doesn't find anything concerning mplayerplug-in.

The Gecko version seems to deal only with content AIFF, Amiga
soundTracker, Flash, MIDI, MP3, Ogg (audio). There is no mention of
Windows Media.

Regards and thanks again!

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Re: Viewing answers to one's nntp posts in Thunderbird

2009-10-03 Thread gilpel
 gil...@altern.org wrote:
 Is it possible to only view answers to one's usenet posts in
 Thunderbird,
 and those of a few other posters, if possible.

 Is it possible with any other newsgroup reader?

 Seamonkey allows marking a thread as watched and viewing only watched
 threads with unread posts for nntp

The problem is the thread sometimes has hundreds of posts and you might
have 10. They're hard to find. Of course, you may make a search on your
name, click one post and see if you have any answer. And so on for each
and every of your posts, but it's rather painful, mainly that you might
also want to check the answers another poster receives.

Thanks for your answer!

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Re: libflashplayer downloaded to memory?

2009-10-03 Thread gilpel
Reposting (Didn't appear on the list)

 Ed Greshko wrote:

 If and when I get the chance I'll do the same on F11 with the mplayer
that I have installed on it.   But, don't expect it to be soon.
 Well  I actually had an F11 snapshot saved that I could use
Works exactly the same as my RHELv4 system.  The F11 system has

Mine has the x86_64 versions:

 gnome-mplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.i586

gnome-mplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.x86_64

 mplayer-1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11.i586

mplayer-1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11.x86_64

 gnome-mplayer-common-0.9.7-1.fc11.i586

gnome-mplayer-common-0.9.7-1.fc11.x86_64

 mplayer-gui-1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11.i586

gnome-mplayer-common-0.9.7-1.fc11.x86_64

 gecko-mediaplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.i586

gecko-mediaplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.x86_64

 installed along with the requisite gstreamer stuff

I have:

gstreamer-0.10.24-1.fc11.x86_64

So, I guess everything is the same, except I have the 64 bit versions.







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Re: [Bulk] Installing Windows afterFedora

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Fabio Jara wrote:
I have the same issue about windows, recently the university that i work 
have buy a package of windows 7 and before that they have the windows 
Vista and XP.


The internal system that they use here to manage all the database of 
students work only on windows, so i put some effort into Virtual machine 
work, and find out that it was the best solution to this issue, you can 
install any windows ( at least in Fedora 11 i have tested ) and it 
works, you have your own linux machine, you do not need to change to an 
OS that you aren't used at.


Today, i have my Notebook HP with Fedora 11, and two Virtual Machines on 
it, one with Windows XP and the other with Windows 7. An they work 
perfectly, and the best side of it is that i have my Fedora :D ( yes, 
i'm in love with Fedora ).


Hope my advice enlighten you to the good side of the force ( yes, that too )

I probably should have included in my first post that this will be to test some 
video cards which are not supported, or poorly supported, in Linux. I have 
doubts about doing this from a VM, timing and real mode issues could be present, 
and passing PCI cards to a VM while ignoring them in Linux is high voodoo.



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Re: ibus still broken

2009-10-03 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 10:17 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 13:07 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
   I'm just not buying Bill's concept of breaking and never digging
  out.
   
  That's your choice, I think Tait Clarridge hit the method to downgrade
  first, 
  then rerun the upgrade. In another forum (chat room) someone said that
  the yum 
  'clean' had been used, then upgrade succeeded in fixing the system.
  
  Both of those suggestions indicate that using only the 'upgrade'
  command isn't 
  the way to get things sane again. If it worked for you, fine, but I
  still put 
  Tait's suggestion in my tricks folder, seems a robust thing to do,
  rather than 
  repeating the unsuccessful upgrade.
 
 it's about the assumption...
 
 if a yum clean metadata fixes the issue, then it is not an issue that is
 problematic for everyone but only those whose metadata contains a
 package list of updates that won't work...it's a local problem.
 
 I can assure you that neither I nor most have had to 'downgrade' in
 order to upgrade.

I tried clearing the yum metadata and the problem persisted. I cannot
take credit for the downgrade and then update as I saw it on a forum (or
maybe even in bugzilla), but on 3 of my Fedora 11 systems (both i386 and
x86_64) the clean did not work and only the downgrade and then upgrade
worked. 


 
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Re: Viewing answers to one's nntp posts in Thunderbird

2009-10-03 Thread Elliott Chapin
As a fallback how about just sorting on a field - From or whatever? And 
have you tried Pan?


On 10/03/2009 02:55 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote:

gil...@altern.org wrote:

Is it possible to only view answers to one's usenet posts in
Thunderbird,
and those of a few other posters, if possible.

Is it possible with any other newsgroup reader?


Seamonkey allows marking a thread as watched and viewing only watched
threads with unread posts for nntp


The problem is the thread sometimes has hundreds of posts and you might
have 10. They're hard to find. Of course, you may make a search on your
name, click one post and see if you have any answer. And so on for each
and every of your posts, but it's rather painful, mainly that you might
also want to check the answers another poster receives.

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Re: Fedora Firewall with multiple public IPs

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Gabriel - IP Guys wrote:

Thank you for taking the time to read my message.

 

I wish to build a fedora box that will take control of all my ADSL 
connections – I use 2 ADSL modems with Ethernet connections, and 
multiple public static IPs on each. I wish for my internal network to 
only see one gateway, and have the gateway determine which route is the 
best route based on traffic type, and route availability.


 


As far as I'm concerned, it should follow these ‘basic’ rules

 

· All traffic goes via my unlimited connection (with the 
exception of)


· Email – Goes via an SMTP relay for one of our providers, which 
has been added to our DNS


· SIP traffic goes via the same provider, as they provide a rock 
solid connection


 

If my A1 provider is absent for any reason, then use my B1 provider, 
until A1 comes backup. Any ideas, and suggestions will be appreciated J


Make the cheap unlimited ISP the default route, use the mangle table to MARK the 
connections you want to go through the other ISP, then use a source route based 
on the MARK to force the packets out the non-default interface. Use the nat 
table to SNAT the marked packets to the correct source address.


I do that at several sites.

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Re: CF and Swap

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Joerg Bergmann wrote:

Most of the CF with 8GB are more expense compared to the cheapest
8GB SSD device (IDE, 8GB, MLC, here in Germany 35 Euros). And CF
are MLC, at least all the cheap ones! I personally would prefer
SLC devices, they last substantially longer compared to MLC devices.
I have a phenom II PC with a 64GB SLC disk, 32GB Win XP, 32GB
fedora 11 partitions alltogether, no swap (4GB RAM, x86_32). At my 
opinion, there is no need for swap on machines with several GB RAM.


At the very least you want swap so you can suspend to disk. The swap need not be 
as large as all memory, cache and buffers will go to disk as part of the suspend 
 IIRC.


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Re: A CPU monitor

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

in Gnome.

The gnome system monitor can itself eat up 25% of one of my CPUs.

So what are the alternatives to seeing CPU usage?


Which of the monitors do you use? The monitor which runs in the desktop, I 
guess. There is one to run in the toolbar, and the resources tab in the 
system-about this system (desktop again) takes little CPU and can be tamed more 
by using longer sample intervals.


Even on an old 2.5GHz Celeron with both the toolbar and About the system 
running it only take a few percent of the CPU on a totally dumb video, Sis 
on-board on a Shuttle, no visible impact.


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Re: how to fix BUG: MAX_STACK_TRACE_ENTRIES too low!

2009-10-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/03/2009 09:34 PM, jack craig wrote:
 I get this on boot, how do i increase the max_stack_trace_entries?
 
 sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
 device-mapper: multipath: version 1.0.5 loaded
 BUG: MAX_STACK_TRACE_ENTRIES too low!
 turning off the locking correctness validator.
 Pid: 974, comm: mount Not tainted 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i686.PAEdebug #1
 Call Trace:

Please file a bug report

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

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Re: how to fix BUG: MAX_STACK_TRACE_ENTRIES too low!

2009-10-03 Thread jack craig

ok, will do.

is there a boot time way to increase this setting for a workaround?

thx, jackc...

On 10/03/2009 12:37 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 10/03/2009 09:34 PM, jack craig wrote:
   

I get this on boot, how do i increase the max_stack_trace_entries?

sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
device-mapper: multipath: version 1.0.5 loaded
BUG: MAX_STACK_TRACE_ENTRIES too low!
turning off the locking correctness validator.
Pid: 974, comm: mount Not tainted 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i686.PAEdebug #1
Call Trace:
 

Please file a bug report

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

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Re: How do I change from a regular kernel to a PAE kernel ?

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Linuxguy123 wrote:

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 00:43 -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote:

On 09/30/09 00:21, quoth Linuxguy123:


What difference in speed will I notice in doing this ?

Evolution seems to be faster, but 'free -m' isn't showing that I am
running out of memory or anything.   I generally have ~1600 MB free now.
I gained 1 GB, so before it would have been ~400 MB free. 


Now I should increase the size of my swap file partition from 2GB to
4GB...  


I just did this last week. Works fine. But I just have one question:

You say your situation is that you're now running at around 1.6G free mem. So
why bump the swap area? You can do it, but the whole point was to use more
memory. If you didn't run out of swap before then you're even less likely to
run out now, unless you now plan on doing things that you didn't do before.


I'm running 1.6 GB free when not running any of my heavy duty
applications like ufraw (batch), digikam, eclipse (sometimes 2 or more
instances), gimp, a couple browsers, evolution and a couple Open Office
apps. 


Did I mention that I want to start editing HD video ?


Which program are you using (planning to use)?

I need 8 GB of RAM ! 

BTW: The PAE kernel seems to run faster. 

Having extra memory certainly make things run faster, the actual CPU is some 
tiny bit slower when doing context switches and on cache misses. You can measure 
the CPU effect, you can *feel* the boost from the extra memory.


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Re: Live USB from Live CD image?

2009-10-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

2009/9/30 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com:

Hi,
I saw somewhere a tip how to make LiveUSB when booting from LiveCD
image, but now I can't find that reference...
I would be really grateful for anyone pointing me in right direction.


http://tinyurl.com/yc6ebh3

It basically boils down to:

$ livecd-iso-to-disk /dev/live /dev/USBDEVICENAME


You eventually get to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo for 
that link. Beware, near the end it tells you to test using qemu, and the 
sequence -vga std should be -std-vga instead.


Yes, I'm one of those use kvm from the command line guys, learned it 
pre-libvirt.

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Re: Fedora Firewall with multiple public IPs

2009-10-03 Thread Tait Clarridge
  As far as I'm concerned, it should follow these ‘basic’ rules
  
   
  
  · All traffic goes via my unlimited connection (with the 
  exception of)
  
  · Email – Goes via an SMTP relay for one of our providers, which 
  has been added to our DNS
  
  · SIP traffic goes via the same provider, as they provide a rock 
  solid connection
  
   
  
  If my A1 provider is absent for any reason, then use my B1 provider, 
  until A1 comes backup. Any ideas, and suggestions will be appreciated J
  
 Make the cheap unlimited ISP the default route, use the mangle table to MARK 
 the 
 connections you want to go through the other ISP, then use a source route 
 based 
 on the MARK to force the packets out the non-default interface. Use the nat 
 table to SNAT the marked packets to the correct source address.
 
 I do that at several sites.
 

I recently did that for a VPN server, you could probably do something
like the following (after making the unlimited connection your default):

# Flush a route table (to make sure there is nothing in it)
# You can pick any number, I chose 300 

ip route flush table 300

# Delete the fwmark that we are going to use (0x50 is going to be used
here)

ip rule del fwmark 0x50

# Create the mangle table to mark source packets (SMTP for example)
# The --set-mark 80 is in correlation with the fwmark 0x50 (as 0x50 is
80 in hex)

iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -j MARK --set-mark 80 -p tcp --sport 25

# Do something similar for each of the SIP ports you want to open

# Set the default route for table 300

ip route add table 300 default via your second connection gateway

# Add the FWMARK rule to the table

ip rule add fwmark 0x50 table 300



You can easily MARK additional ports to send out the more stable
connection by adding more IPTABLES rules. 

Also, make sure that the ports have been opened in iptables so they can
get through.

Good luck,

Tait


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Re: libflashplayer downloaded to memory?

2009-10-03 Thread gilpel
 Ed Greshko wrote:
 If and when I get the chance I'll do the same on F11 with the mplayer
that I have installed on it.   But, don't expect it to be soon.
 Well  I actually had an F11 snapshot saved that I could use

 Works exactly the same as my RHELv4 system.  The F11 system has

Mine has the x86_64 versions:

 gnome-mplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.i586

gnome-mplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.x86_64

 mplayer-1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11.i586

mplayer-1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11.x86_64

 gnome-mplayer-common-0.9.7-1.fc11.i586

gnome-mplayer-common-0.9.7-1.fc11.x86_64

 mplayer-gui-1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11.i586

gnome-mplayer-common-0.9.7-1.fc11.x86_64

 gecko-mediaplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.i586

gecko-mediaplayer-0.9.7-1.fc11.x86_64

 installed along with the requisite gstreamer stuff

I have:

gstreamer-0.10.24-1.fc11.x86_64

So, I guess everything is the same, except I have the 64 bit versions.




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Re: libflashplayer downloaded to memory?

2009-10-03 Thread Ed Greshko
gil...@altern.org wrote:
 Reposting (Didn't appear on the list)


 So, I guess everything is the same, except I have the 64 bit versions.

   
Unfortunately I don't have a 64 bit environment to test on.

But, based on your description, it would seem that you should file a
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do_gettimeofday()undefined reference

2009-10-03 Thread anu4 s
Hello:
I am new to linux and facing a simple compile problem. I have written a C
file which is using the do_gettimeofday() function.

#include linux/time.h
#include stdio.h

main()
{
   struct timeval start;

   do_gettimeofday(start);
   printf (%d, start.tv_usec);
}

gcc a1.c --
 undefined reference to `do_gettimeofday'


here is the PATH:

echo $PATH
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/homes/iws/arpalla/bin

I checked that the /usr/include/linux/time.h file got the function
declaration for do_gettimeofday()

Is there anything missing in the PATH variable?

I am facing same error for rdtscl() function as well!!

The Linux version is :

[arpalla]$ uname -a
Linux .. 2.6.30-2.0 #6 SMP Mon Sep 21 11:03:44 PDT 2009 i686 i686 i386
GNU/Linux

Can anyone please help?

Thanks,
Anu
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Re: do_gettimeofday()undefined reference

2009-10-03 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 03Oct2009 15:22, anu4 s arpa...@gmail.com wrote:
| I am new to linux and facing a simple compile problem. I have written a C
| file which is using the do_gettimeofday() function.
| 
| #include linux/time.h
| #include stdio.h
| 
| main()
| {
|struct timeval start;
| 
|do_gettimeofday(start);
|printf (%d, start.tv_usec);
| }
| 
| gcc a1.c --
|  undefined reference to `do_gettimeofday'

Are you sure it's not spelt gettimeofday ?

What makes you think there's a do_ in there? (Sorry, my Linux box is
off just at present, but I'm going to be _really_ surprised if anything
in the main library is spelt do_*.)

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Re: Viewing answers to one's nntp posts in Thunderbird

2009-10-03 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 03Oct2009 23:55, gil...@altern.org gil...@altern.org wrote:
|  gil...@altern.org wrote:
|  Is it possible to only view answers to one's usenet posts in
|  Thunderbird,
|  and those of a few other posters, if possible.
| 
|  Is it possible with any other newsgroup reader?
| 
|  Seamonkey allows marking a thread as watched and viewing only watched
|  threads with unread posts for nntp
| 
| The problem is the thread sometimes has hundreds of posts and you might
| have 10. They're hard to find. Of course, you may make a search on your
| name, click one post and see if you have any answer. And so on for each
| and every of your posts, but it's rather painful, mainly that you might
| also want to check the answers another poster receives.

In mutt you can find messages posted by yourself which have been replied
to. A quick '/~P~Q' (search for messages from me that have been replied
to) will find your message, and the replies are then immediately
available. Of course you will want to turn on thread view.

Mutt is mostly a mail reader, but it has an NNTP patch too.

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Dual display with Fedora 11

2009-10-03 Thread Dave Close
I have a small Acer desktop with two video connectors. The onboard
chip is an Nvidia GF7100 with a VGA connector. The addin PCIe board
has an Nvidia G100 with an HDMI connector. I have identical monitors
attached to both connectors.

The Windows which came with the box has no trouble automatically
recognizing and using both monitors. Of course, that is of no interest
to me except to verify the hardware is working and connected properly.
I want both monitors to work with Fedora 11.

My installation has Gnome, KDE, and XFce4. None of them seem to
recognize that the box even has a second video interface. The monitor
they use is the one attached to the addin board but the one that
system-config-display reports under hardware/video card is the
GF7100. Selecting use dual head and then second video card shows
only .

lshw reports both video adapters. It shows GF7100 for the onboard chip
but only shows the PCI numbers for the G100, not the name.

I have tried manual editing of xorg.conf. Now system-config-display
says it is running in dual head mode but still doesn't show a second
display adapter. And the second display is still dark.

I have selected the nvidia driver for the GF7100 but vesa for the
G100. The nvidia driver doesn't seem to recognize the G100 and X
refuses to start if I try to use it.

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Re: do_gettimeofday()undefined reference

2009-10-03 Thread S e r g e
Le Sunday 04 October 2009 à 00:22:41, vous avez écrit :
 Hello:
 I am new to linux and facing a simple compile problem. I have written a C
 file which is using the do_gettimeofday() function.

 #include linux/time.h
 #include stdio.h

 main()
 {
struct timeval start;

do_gettimeofday(start);
printf (%d, start.tv_usec);
 }

 gcc a1.c --
  undefined reference to `do_gettimeofday'


 here is the PATH:

 echo $PATH
 /usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/
usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/homes/iws/arpalla/bin

 I checked that the /usr/include/linux/time.h file got the function
 declaration for do_gettimeofday()

 Is there anything missing in the PATH variable?

 I am facing same error for rdtscl() function as well!!

 The Linux version is :

 [arpalla]$ uname -a
 Linux .. 2.6.30-2.0 #6 SMP Mon Sep 21 11:03:44 PDT 2009 i686 i686 i386
 GNU/Linux

 Can anyone please help?

 Thanks,
 Anu

% man gettimeofday
NAME
 gettimeofday, settimeofday - get / set time

SYNOPSIS
#include sys/time.h

int gettimeofday(struct timeval *tv, struct timezone *tz);
int settimeofday(const struct timeval *tvtz);

DESCRIPTION
 The functions gettimeofday() and settimeofday() can get and set the time as 
well as a timezone. The tv argument is a struct timeval (as specified in
sys/time.h): 

struct timeval {
time_t  tv_sec; /* seconds */
suseconds_t tv_usec;/* microseconds */
};
[...]


// getsecond.c
#include sys/time.h
#include stdio.h

main(void) {

struct timeval tv;
double t = 0.0;

if ( gettimeofday(tv, NULL) != -1 )
t = tv.tv_usec / 100.0 + tv.tv_sec;

printf (%f\n, t);
}

% gcc -O2 -s getsecond.c -o getsecond.bin

% ./getsecond.bin
1254613660.603762

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Re: Preventing ConsoleKit from interrupting audio when switching consoles.

2009-10-03 Thread William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209 wrote:


Hi all,

I use speech output for reading the screen.  Currently, I'm using espeak 
compiled to use portaudio.  Whenever I switch consoles, I have to wait a few 
seconds for audio output to resume.  I understand that ConsoleKit is 
responsible for the delay while it figures out if I'm the same user and 
should be allowed to use the audio device.


If anyone knows how to disable this behavior, or knows fore sure that 
ConsoleKit can't be configured to accomplish this, I'd really like to hear 
about it.  With respect, what I don't need to hear about is how desirable 
folks think the current behavior is and how I should learn to love it too.


Pulseaudio won't help either, until it can be made to run system-wide.

 TIA.




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ugly behavior.  If a console is accidentally logged out of and then logged 
back in, it's just necessary to re-kill the troublesome daemon.


  Hope this helps someone.

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Network Printer Problems

2009-10-03 Thread Jim

FC11/KDE-4

Have printer setup as lpd://172.16.1.35 and I can ping the printer and 
driver is setup , but when I send a test page it Stops in print que.


Policy setting is
Error Policy :  Retry Job
Operation  Policy:  Default Behavior

Cups is running in Services

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Re: Network Printer Problems

2009-10-03 Thread Hiisi
2009/10/4 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net:
 FC11/KDE-4

 Have printer setup as lpd://172.16.1.35 and I can ping the printer and
 driver is setup , but when I send a test page it Stops in print que.

 Policy setting is
 Error Policy :  Retry Job
 Operation  Policy:  Default Behavior

 Cups is running in Services

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Just a guess: have you set up allowed users? You can do that in
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Re: Network Printer Problems

2009-10-03 Thread Ed Greshko
Jim wrote:
 FC11/KDE-4

 Have printer setup as lpd://172.16.1.35 and I can ping the printer and
 driver is setup , but when I send a test page it Stops in print que.

 Policy setting is
 Error Policy :  Retry Job
 Operation  Policy:  Default Behavior

 Cups is running in Services

I always check the cups logs in /var/log/cups for hints

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Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Building LiveCDs for Fedora from CentOS

2009-10-03 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen

harry.dev...@faa.gov wrote:


We have our development servers here where I work that are running 
CentOS 5.2 64-bit on them.  One of our projects has a LiveCD that we 
build and provide.  It is currently built on a Fedora 8 PC that I have 
but we'd like to move to Fedora 11 or 12.


What I'd like to do is put the Fedora 11 RPMs on our server, run 
createrepo to create a repository, and use livecd-creator on that server 
to build the Fedora 11 LiveCD.  Is this approach possible?  Are there 
any gotchas I need to be aware of if it is possible?  The LiveCD is a 
32-bit implementation BTW.




You will run into a SquashFS major version bump incompatible between 
Fedora on the live media and CentOS on the server. You should use a 
Fedora release greater then or equal to Fedora 11 on the build host, 
even though you can still host the repositories used on the EL-5 server.


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Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] livecd-iso-to-pxe problem

2009-10-03 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen

Alan Pevec wrote:

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Francesco Crippa fcri...@byte-code.com wrote:

Hi guys,

I've got a problem with the script livecd-iso-to-pxe... It creates the right 
files (under /tftboot directory) but I can't pxeboot a machine with this configuration.

During the pxeboot, initrd is loaded and kernel starts the execution, but it 
looks like it can't run (or find) the init process...

Have you ever got this problem before?

Unfortunately I haven't got any error message to show you (just kernel logs on 
the console during the boot... but without error... just the kernel, no 
messages from init script...). I'm using fedora11

Le me know if you know a solution for this problem


Seems like the issue we had with oVirt Node PXE boot on F11 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/ovirt-devel/2009-June/msg00136.html
Try livecd-iso-to-pxeboot from our patched RPM
http://ovirt.org/repos/ovirt/11/x86_64/livecd-tools-024-1ovirt.fc11.x86_64.rpm



Can you, and will you, send this upstream (to me for example?).

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[Bug 523547] virt-df doesn't pull correct dependencies

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--- Comment #10 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-10-03 15:01:09 EDT ---
libguestfs-1.0.70-2.fc11 has been pushed to the Fedora 11 stable repository. 
If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 481522] Updated Brazilian Portuguese translation of virt-top

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Piotr Drąg piotrd...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 CC||piotrd...@gmail.com
 Resolution||DUPLICATE




--- Comment #3 from Piotr Drąg piotrd...@gmail.com  2009-10-03 18:15:46 EDT 
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I've included this translation in tarball in bug #493799.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 493799 ***

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[Bug 493799] [virt-top] Translations for Fedora 12

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 CC||jyulli...@gmail.com

Bug 493799 depends on bug 481522, which changed state.

Bug 481522 Summary: Updated Brazilian Portuguese translation of virt-top
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481522

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||DUPLICATE



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*** Bug 481522 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 493799] [virt-top] Translations for Fedora 12

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Piotr Drąg piotrd...@gmail.com changed:

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 Attachment #362632|0   |1
is obsolete||




--- Comment #21 from Piotr Drąg piotrd...@gmail.com  2009-10-03 18:14:39 EDT 
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Created an attachment (id=363578)
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New tarball with updated Polish translation and added Brazilian Portuguese
translation

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