Re: OT: test
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Rogerare...@bigpond.com wrote: On 09/05/2009 06:03 AM, jaivuk wrote: After my last post I received an error - Mailbox disabled for this recipient, So I'm testing if it is still an issue... This post is readable Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Yeah, it's readable! P.S. I love these test emails! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Building Emacs 23.1 from rawhide for F11
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Suvayu Alifatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been using the emacs build in the rawhide repositories on my F11 system. (version 23.0.93.1) Now since emacs 23.1 is out, I would like to use that. But trying to install the rawhide build pulls in glibc as a dependency from rawhide. Since its a crucial library I didn't go ahead with it and decided to build from the srpm. So far I have downloaded the srpm for the rawhide emacs build however when I use `sudo yum-builddep --enablerepo=rawhide emacs' yum asks to install the build dependencies from rawhide. I understand that must be because the rawhide build for emacs was built against them. So what would be the ideal way to go ahead with this? Should I just download the corresponding packages from the F11 repos? Would that work or will I run into problems? Thanks for any pointers. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines use mock. (yum install mock). Set it up, and after you download the srpm do: $ mock -r fedora-11-arch ~/rpmbuild/SRPMS/emacs-x arch could be i386 (for i586) and x86_64 Then you can find the packages in /var/lib/mock/xxx mock setup: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects/Mock -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TightVNC Server
]; then exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc fi if [ -f /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ]; then exec sh /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc fi [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop twm -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:35 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Hi, folks. I've got an AMD, 64-bit PC running Fedora 11. I've been using the kmod-nvidia driver for graphics. With the update to the latest kernel: 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 I seem to have lost that driver. You haven't. It should be out shortly, say the next 24h. Meanwhile, chose another kernel when you boot. And don't post new subjects into a thread. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I _just_ ran into this problem, with some stuff (loading kmod-nvidia) failing miserably. In the meanwhile, I will boot into the older kernel which is just fine. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: (no subject)
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM, dn...@yahoo.com wrote: Message: 8 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:42:14 -0400 From: Mail Lists li...@sapience.com Subject: Re: Baffled by a Cable Modem To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 4a3cf546.6030...@sapience.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 06/20/2009 10:38 AM, Jim wrote: What your forgetting is the mac# from a previous device, Computer ,etc, some cable modems will retain that mac # and not connect to any new devices until you clear the old one. I thought he had connectivity - just not to all hosts - so this sounds like a red herring. I have been trying to follow this line of trouble shooting, but it think it is above my pay grade. But I think you are right about the red-herring. I can ping any one I have tried. I think that means my DHCP and DNS are OK. Could it be DNS problem? ... firefox caches dns ... so some cached hosts may work That looks promising. If firefox is cacheing a bad dns, then maybe everything else would work OK except firefox. Maybe, if it cached a google dns, it would work with the google stuff, which it does, but not other sites. However, I also tried dillo, with the same unable to load result. I had an idea of how to check this. I booted the problem computer with fc9 Live-CD. (I think that gives me all clean configuration files) and I had the same problem and gmail still worked. I have connected the ethernet cable out of the modem to my old computer ( fc8). I tried to boot, which went OK, except the modem wasn't found. I then powered down the modem and the computer, then powered them both up and booted. It seems to work fine. (Maybe this computer works on saturdays) To me, it acts like hardware. Next I think I will try putting in an old NIC that I have and see what happens. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Could someone put a sane subject on this please? (no subject) doesn't make any sense. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Test - please ignore
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/06/09 12:12, Patrick wrote: Hi, I didn't see the posting that I sent to the list yesterday show up so another posting to test. Apologies for the noise. Regards, Patrick If your on Gmail it wont. Best place to check is: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I absolutely love these 'ignore' messages! They are so fun! :D -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fresh Fedora 11 fetches 362MB+ of updates, where's deltaRPM?
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghanpocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 04:25 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: Thanks Rahul, but I guess you meant: Go to System-Administration- Add/Remove Programs, and select yum-presto. It's best not to assume that the user is comfortable with the command line, even while I have no problem doing so. Wrong. The one thing every Fedora (and Linux) user has is a Shell, but we don't all use the same desktop. The above instruction about Go to System Administration ... is meaningless to anyone not using Gnome. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Agreed. I've been burned badly before by tips/tutorials using the GNOME desktop by default, and assuming that everybody uses GNOME. They were practically useless for me until I found a way to do them in shell. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Vote for your favorite Linux Distro for the Desktop if you can!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:43 PM, David dgbo...@comcast.net wrote: On 6/5/2009 2:12 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear kind Fedora folks, A question was asked at Distrowatch about your favorite linux distribution for the desktop, if you have a chance and you can do it, vote for your favorite distribution. As many of may know, Ubuntu is leading the pack, I believe that Fedora has a very large user base too and the numbers are lying. Please vote if you have a chance and prove the saying wrong `` There are lies, damn lies, and there are statistics'' http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-your-favorite-linux-distribution-desktop Regards, Antonio The results of this faux poll would be just that. Fake. No thanks. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Nothing to count upon, but since it's fun to vote, I voted! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Pushing back Time
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:12 AM, David dgbo...@comcast.net wrote: On 5/29/2009 8:08 PM, Chris wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009 19:58:37 -0400 David dgbo...@comcast.net wrote: On 5/29/2009 7:45 PM, Chris wrote: Greetings, Every few days to a week I check the project site for the release of 11. It cracks me up to see the days just seem to be counting in the wrong direction. For example, a few days ago it said 7 days. Tonight, we're at 11. Might I suggest the tag line say something like: It will be release when it's released. If you had any idea of what is happening behind the screens. If you had any idea of what the developers are doing. Working on. Fixing. trying to make this a good, no great, release, you would troll your way out of here. Bye troll. *shrug* Gee... You mean that you want them to release a 'maybe bad - don't work for a lot of users' release' just so you can have the 'latest and the greatest'? *WOW!!!* Which just might not, maybe, wont work for you and many others?? Or would you prefer, what most of us would prefer, that they present a release that at least works for most? And has promise to work for those that it does not with a tweak or two?? Crawl back under the bridge Troll. Not a troll? Really Then shut the hell up about schedules that slide for the better of the the masses. Here's an idea! You want Fedora 11 *RIGHT NOW*? Download the last RC. Install it. And then update it. *PING*! You got it! Then? The bridge is that way. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines If you want it that bad, why don't you want you go on Preview? It's there, ready for you to be used. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: emacs c++ code completion help
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Armin Moradi wrote: Here we go, I got it working: Download these files: auto-complete.el auto-complete-cpp.el auto-complete-gtags.el auto-complete-semantic.el auto-complete-yasnippet.el put them in a directory, let's say ~/.emacs.d/elisp/ then add this to your ~/.emacs file: (add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elisp) (require 'auto-complete) (global-auto-complete-mode) It worked for me, but let me know if it worked for you too! (the auto-completion is really nice btw!) I couldn't get it to auto-complete C++ keywords _not_ present in the buffer. So I changed my auto-complete-cpp.el (attached below). I made some minor changes to an example code posted on the emacs wiki page to include auto-complete both from the current buffer and from a list of keywords defined in auto-complete-cpp.el. Now my .emacs looks like this, ;; load path for elisp files (add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elisp) ;; autocomplete extension (require 'auto-complete) (when (require 'auto-complete nil t) (require 'auto-complete-cpp) (global-auto-complete-mode)) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines That didn't help the dot(.) problem. But thanks nevertheless. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: emacs c++ code completion help
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Armin Moradi amor...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Armin Moradi wrote: Here we go, I got it working: Download these files: auto-complete.el auto-complete-cpp.el auto-complete-gtags.el auto-complete-semantic.el auto-complete-yasnippet.el put them in a directory, let's say ~/.emacs.d/elisp/ then add this to your ~/.emacs file: (add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elisp) (require 'auto-complete) (global-auto-complete-mode) It worked for me, but let me know if it worked for you too! (the auto-completion is really nice btw!) I couldn't get it to auto-complete C++ keywords _not_ present in the buffer. So I changed my auto-complete-cpp.el (attached below). I made some minor changes to an example code posted on the emacs wiki page to include auto-complete both from the current buffer and from a list of keywords defined in auto-complete-cpp.el. Now my .emacs looks like this, ;; load path for elisp files (add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elisp) ;; autocomplete extension (require 'auto-complete) (when (require 'auto-complete nil t) (require 'auto-complete-cpp) (global-auto-complete-mode)) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines That didn't help the dot(.) problem. But thanks nevertheless. -- Armin Moradi When I try to install the development version of auto-complete using auto-install, it gives me several errors on missing files: auto-complete-ruby.el - Cannot open rcodetools auto-complete-semantic - Cannot open semantic-ia auto-complete-yasnippet - Cannot open yasnippet Where can I find those files? -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: emacs c++ code completion help
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:57 AM, GMS S gms...@yahoo.com wrote: Ed Greshko wrote [ Did you visit... http://cedet.sourceforge.net/setup.shtml ] Reading this ,going to the cedet directory did this make EMACS=emacs And added in .emacs file (load-file ~/cedet-1.0pre6/common/cedet.el) (global-ede-mode 1) ; Enable the Project management system (semantic-load-enable-code-helpers) ; Enable prototype help and smart completion (global-srecode-minor-mode 1) ; Enable template insertion menu But it is not working. If I run a .cpp file with emacs and after typing dot(.) no menu is shown. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Here we go, I got it working: Download these files: auto-complete.el auto-complete-cpp.el auto-complete-gtags.el auto-complete-semantic.el auto-complete-yasnippet.el put them in a directory, let's say ~/.emacs.d/elisp/ then add this to your ~/.emacs file: (add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elisp) (require 'auto-complete) (global-auto-complete-mode) It worked for me, but let me know if it worked for you too! (the auto-completion is really nice btw!) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Paradigm shifting via changing desktops in KDE4 ?
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: On Monday 25 May 2009 15:39:31 Linuxguy123 wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:41 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: In KDE3.5, we used to be able to set an option such that applications didn't appear on multiple desktops or on the task bar of another window. Ie: I could have my email and general apps open (and displayed on the taskbar) on desktop #1 and my programming apps on the taskbar and desktop of desktop #2, word processing on desktop #3, etc. I could then switch between paradigms by simply changing desktops. How do I do this in KDE 4.2.x ? Right taskbar - Task manager settings, look at options: Only show tasks from ... (current desktop, current screen, ...) Excellent ! It works well. Thanks, Rex. Someday I need to learn how to properly use KDE4, like making use of the task views, etc. Is there a youtube video or tutorial somewhere ? Nevertheless, KDE4 rocks. Lots of videos on youtube. Some are linked from userbase, but there will be newer ones that haven't been added there yet. Use youtube's search for kde4, plasma or kwin. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Or why not make a video of what you just learned, and post it somewhere and link it from userbase? -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11p Wine?
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Beartooth wrote: I noticed, when PackageKit installed Wine to F11p, it added in a whole bunch of related stuff; but neither yum remove wine nor yum install wine mentioned any of them. (Yum update wine had done nothing.) That's normal, installing an app installs its dependencies, removing the app again does not remove those dependencies, because they might also be used by other stuff or directly by you. They're not inverse operations. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I wonder if someone would step up to the plate and make yum smarter when it comes to removing unneeded dependencies. I'm sure a whole lot of people would appreciate it. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11p Wine?
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 05/25/2009 05:11 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Take a look at the yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves. It does what you want. Well, it tries to. More often than not, it does the wrong thing (e.g. where applications require other applications.) You can't even come close to reliably solving this problem without tracking which packages were installed explicitly and which were automatically installed as dependencies, and remove-with-leaves doesn't even try to do that. And even if you do that, you can end up removing stuff which wasn't supposed to be removed. yum recently got the ability to track why a package was installed (via dependencies or directly etc) and I guess the plugin would be taking advantage of that http://lists.baseurl.org/pipermail/yum/2009-May/022725.html Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines The idea of having a database for packages seems interesting. Maybe if yum would keep a counter for automatically installed packages in that database and increment it by one whenever you install another package that needs that package as dependency and also decrement it when you remove that package, yum would be able to remove deps when the counter reaches zero? It goes like this: I install a package foo, which installs bar and baz as deps (automatic install) right now the counter for both bar and baz is 1. then I install foo2 which depends on bar only. The counter for bar is 2 and the counter for baz is 1. then I remove foo, which has bar and baz as deps, if you decrement the counter for both, bar will be 1, and baz will be 0, which means we can now remove baz too! A proper database (e.g. sqlite) would help in this case rather than a simple text file. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11p Wine?
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Armin Moradi amor...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 05/25/2009 05:11 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Take a look at the yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves. It does what you want. Well, it tries to. More often than not, it does the wrong thing (e.g. where applications require other applications.) You can't even come close to reliably solving this problem without tracking which packages were installed explicitly and which were automatically installed as dependencies, and remove-with-leaves doesn't even try to do that. And even if you do that, you can end up removing stuff which wasn't supposed to be removed. yum recently got the ability to track why a package was installed (via dependencies or directly etc) and I guess the plugin would be taking advantage of that http://lists.baseurl.org/pipermail/yum/2009-May/022725.html Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines The idea of having a database for packages seems interesting. Maybe if yum would keep a counter for automatically installed packages in that database and increment it by one whenever you install another package that needs that package as dependency and also decrement it when you remove that package, yum would be able to remove deps when the counter reaches zero? It goes like this: I install a package foo, which installs bar and baz as deps (automatic install) right now the counter for both bar and baz is 1. then I install foo2 which depends on bar only. The counter for bar is 2 and the counter for baz is 1. then I remove foo, which has bar and baz as deps, if you decrement the counter for both, bar will be 1, and baz will be 0, which means we can now remove baz too! A proper database (e.g. sqlite) would help in this case rather than a simple text file. -- Armin Moradi Oh, and I forgot to mention that if a package was installed directly, the counter would simply be something like -1, so it would never be implicitly removed as dependency. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: emacs c++ code completion help
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:52 PM, GMS S gms...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, Someone please tell how to get the c++ auto code completion in emacs. I am very new in emacs. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Actually that's a question I had for some time, and now found the motivation to look for the answer, this might help, I will try it tomorrow as it is late tonight: http://cedet.sourceforge.net/intellisense.shtml -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: vi editor c++ code completion
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:25 PM, GMS S gms...@yahoo.com wrote: Can anyone tell how to get the option of c++ code completion in vi edition? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines It's called omnicompletion (and is in vim). http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Omni_completion -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
virt-manager gives error right befor finish
Hi list,
It has been a few days that I'm trying to create a virtual machine in
virt-manager with qemu/kvm. I add a connection, and then press 'New'
to create a new guest. Then I enter the information about the guest
(paravirtualized is disabled) and set the memory and disk image it
should boot from ( .iso ). And when I press finish, it gives me this
error/traceback:
Unable to complete install 'class 'libvirt.libvirtError' internal
error QEMU quit during console startup
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py, line 723, in do_install
dom = guest.start_install(False, meter = meter)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/virtinst/Guest.py, line 732,
in start_install
return self._do_install(consolecb, meter, removeOld, wait)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/virtinst/Guest.py, line 767,
in _do_install
self.domain = self.conn.createLinux(install_xml, 0)
File /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/libvirt.py, line 915, in createLinux
if ret is None:raise libvirtError('virDomainCreateLinux() failed',
conn=self)
libvirtError: internal error QEMU quit during console startup
'
I have installed the Virtualization group (yum install
@Virtualization). Does anyone have any idea how this could be fixed?
Thanks,
--
Armin Moradi
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Re: how to kill a yum lock?
When you try running yum again, it will inform you as to where the lock is located (something like /var/run/yum.pid). Then just delete it (`su -c 'rm /var/run/yum.pid'`). Just make sure that no other app is currently using it (`su -c 'cat /var/run/yum.pid'`) Hope this helps, -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
Emacs says it best! M^X doctor I am the psychotherapist. Please, describe your problems. Each time you are finished talking, type RET twice. Is vi better than emacs? What do you think? Wow! That's plain crazy!!! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Mike McCarty
mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Alan Evans wrote:
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jose Celestino wrote:
Words by Tim [Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:20:31AM +1030]:
There's one thing worse than vi, and that's emacs. ;-)
And vice-versa :)
That, sir, is the finest response I have ever seen.
You've settled the entire vi/emacs war in two words. I bow low to your
obviously superior debate skills.
:-)
I don't like either one of 'em, and so I don't (much) use either
of them.
The one thing that vi has over every other editor in the world
is that it's present on all UNIX (like) systems by default, so if you
can get around in it somewhat, you'll be able to use any random
system you walk up to. That used to be an argument for ed :-)
For that reason, I've made sure I can more or less get along with
vi, though I don't use it on my system. Since emacs doesn't have
that advantage, I don't ever use it.
Anyway, that's the one recommendation I can make. Make sure you
can use vi a little bit, even if you don't like it, because it
is always present (unless the sysadmins are anti - vi maniacs and
have deleted it).
For your own machine, find and install an editor you like,
configure it the way you want, and use that. If necessary
port it to other machines as necessary, like where you work.
Unless, of course, they insist that you use some editor they
already have, in which case, grit your teeth and learn to
use it.
BTW, don't delete either emacs or vi from your system, since
other pieces of it may depend on their existence. I've got
both installed (and vi's descendent vim) though I never run
any of 'em, for that reason.
Mike
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So, at the end of the day, do you mean that emacs rulez? ;)
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Re: Editor to program in C
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, I am starting to learn how to program in C, and I am looking for a proper editor for that. Do you recommend Kate to me? Or is there something better? This is like women or beers, you will know the one you love at first encounter, and all others will leave you vaguely unsatisfied. I've been maintaining my own version of microemacs for 20+ years, because the original author wouldn't accept my patch for a bug. Since then I have posted it to a zillion OS's (including MULTICS and VMS) and added perl mode, taught it to take a plain text and make it a blog post, and converted half of the documentation from script to groff (at which point no one else was still using it so I quit). Also like women and beer, while you're trying one after the other to see which one is right for you, even the bad ones can be interesting. ;-) -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Hahahaha good analogy!! :) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiling problem
On Thursday 09 April 2009 22:03:53 Jim wrote:
FC 8
Trying to compile a app. called inq and I keep getting this error
message, what does it want ?
# make
/usr/bin/qmake-qt4 -unix -o MyMakefile inq.pro
g++ -c -m64 -pipe -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -Wall -W
-D_REENTRANT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_GUI_LIB -DQT_NETWORK_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB
-I/usr/lib64/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-64 -I. -I/usr/include/QtCore
-I/usr/include/QtCore -I/usr/include/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/QtNetwork
-I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include -I. -I. -I. -o
devicedialog.o devicedialog.cpp
In file included from devicedialog.cpp:4:
helpbrowser.h:5:29: error: boost/utility.hpp: No such file or directory
helpbrowser.h:9: error: ‘boost’ has not been declared
helpbrowser.h:9: error: expected `{' before ‘noncopyable’
helpbrowser.h:9: error: invalid function declaration
devicedialog.cpp: In member function ‘void
DeviceDialog::on_helpButton_clicked()’:
devicedialog.cpp:29: error: incomplete type ‘HelpBrowser’ used in nested
name specifier
make: *** [devicedialog.o] Error 1
If you look at the error message in make, it usually gives you enough clue as
to what you are missing. In this case,
In file included from devicedialog.cpp:4:
helpbrowser.h:5:29: error: boost/utility.hpp: No such file or directory
helpbrowser.h:9: error: ‘boost’ has not been declared
indicates that the file 'helpbrowser.h' needs some file that is missing.
Mostly, these missing cases are the cause of not having appropriate -devel
packages. Now again in this case it mentions 'boost/utility.hpp' and that
'boost' has not been declared. This means you don't have 'boost' package or
more precisely, the 'boost-devel' package. Installing it would fix this
problem.
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Re: Compiling problem
On Thursday 09 April 2009 23:14:01 Jim wrote: Thank you that solved the compile problem, but when i tried to execute inq i get this error message; $ inq inq: error while loading shared libraries: libinklevel.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The libinklevel.so.5 file is at /usr/local/lib/libinklevel.so.5 /usr/local/lib/libinklevel.so.5.0.0 This, too, tells you that you are missing a file. Generally you would search for the package that provides this .so file using $ yum whatprovides */libinklevel.so.5 but apparently it's not there. So the next destination is google. A quick google search revealed that libinklevel.so.5 belongs to package libinklevel. So you would normally go to http://koji.fedoraproject.org to find it. In this case, it's not there, so you would have to compile it :) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
If you have used the Windows for any length of time, defrag first. OT, but I haven't used my Windoze installation in 9 months (not even booted in it) and when I did a few days ago, the HDD was a mess :S it automagically managed to fragment. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the new KDE 4.2 (or so)
On Sunday 05 April 2009 09:19:34 Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 12:47:20 Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: I just wanted to share my opinion about the new KDE in Fedora 10 (KDE 4.2 or so). KDE has been my favourite desktop environment for *years* (8-10 or so). The old one in Fedora 8 (KDE 3.5 or so) was great. Unfortunately, the new one (4.2 or so) is *so heavy*, *so buggy* and so *unusable at all* that I am trying to find an alternative. It looks as if someone thought that simple, fast and stable things are bad. :-/ What do you think about it? I think that most of us are fed up with this kind of trolling. +1 for fed up with this kind of trolling -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On Sunday 05 April 2009 15:32:10 Kevin Kofler wrote: Andras Simon wrote: There may be reasons for not liking vi or emacs, but their being useless is certainly not one of them. They're useless compared to editors which you can just start to use with no learning curve. Kevin Kofler The editors which have no learning curve, proportionally have no efficiency. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On Saturday 04 April 2009 18:15:53 Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 01:20 +1030, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 16:22 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: The other is emacs: It is also feature-complete. Can even act as a psychiatrist and chat with you when you feel down. ;-) Everyone should try it at least once. ;-) And then you'll need one. Once (trying emacs) was enough for me. There's one thing worse than vi, and that's emacs. ;-) of course the opinion expressed above is from a GNOME user... ;-) Craig lol, what does emacs/vim war have to do with gnome/kde? -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On Saturday 04 April 2009 18:28:32 Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 18:24 -0300, Armin wrote: On Saturday 04 April 2009 18:15:53 Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 01:20 +1030, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 16:22 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: The other is emacs: It is also feature-complete. Can even act as a psychiatrist and chat with you when you feel down. ;-) Everyone should try it at least once. ;-) And then you'll need one. Once (trying emacs) was enough for me. There's one thing worse than vi, and that's emacs. ;-) of course the opinion expressed above is from a GNOME user... ;-) Craig lol, what does emacs/vim war have to do with gnome/kde? nothing actually except for the useless banter that accompanies each war. Craig I'm trying to learn emacs, it seems to have a little steeper learning curve than vim. Changing font, for example, is such a pain :S (no useful fonts are available in Shift+Click menu). -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On Saturday 04 April 2009 19:04:07 Kevin Kofler wrote: Anoop wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Sharpe, Sam J I am starting to learn how to program in C, and I am looking for a proper editor for that. Do you recommend Kate to me? Or is there something better? vim Nonsense, Kate is better. :-) The thing is, Kate is a lot easier to use unless you're one of those folks who've been using vi for years. Kevin Kofler no, I object to that. Vi's navigation rules. Kate is nowhere as efficient as Vi. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
Cards on the table: I have been using Emacs 25 years as an editor, an MUA and a programming environment. When I started using it THE heated discussion was between proponents of the DEC operating system, VMS, and proponents of UNIX. Then there were flames between ATT UNIX and Berklix UNIX. Then LINUX vs. Windows. The beat goes on. Then I got embroiled in a serious discussion of the OS and network protocol to be used on NASA's supercomputer wind tunnel-in-a-computer project. The competitors were Cray Operating system, COS, with LINKS a suite of network protocols vs. UNIX and TCP/IP. IIRC there was a bit of early support for SNA as a network protocol as well as OSI which was being urged to be THE U. S. Government's network protocol suite. At a big deal meeting to hash it out I had not come to a position but at the meeting I listened and opted for the UNIX TCP/IP option, and a proponent of another position offered to take a swing at me. A Civil Servant stepped in to save my ass. Those were the days. This VIM/ Emacs debate seems to crop up periodically to no great effect in arriving at any decision. We all end up using the tools with which they are most comfortable. And these flame wars SOLVE NOTHING. Be sides every body KNOWS Emacs rules!!! :-) Get over it guys. There is work that needs doing. I am curious, what part of Emacs is better than Vi? -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On Saturday 04 April 2009 07:56:43 Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, I am starting to learn how to program in C, and I am looking for a proper editor for that. Do you recommend Kate to me? No. Or is there something better? Vim. :) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Editor to program in C
On Sunday 05 April 2009 01:23:33 Aldo Foot wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I am starting to learn how to program in C, and I am looking for a proper editor for that. Do you recommend Kate to me? Or is there something better? Thanks in advance, Paul I find that Kwrite (KDE) is quite good. Kwrite visual cues are quite helpful, specially when there is a bunch of nested if/while/case staments. Also It has a pane were you see a list of opened files and a built in terminal to execute the program. In the end it's a matter of personal preference. ~af You mean Kate, not Kwrite. Kwrite doesn't have these! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to get planet access?
On Monday 30 March 2009 00:42:44 Kevin Kofler wrote: Adel ESSAFI wrote: I try have a FSA and I have uploaded my RSA key since 10 minutes, but I can't log yet! is there any think missing ? 10 minutes are not enough, you need to wait for the key to be synced from FAS to the server. This only happens once (or is it twice now?) an hour. Kevin Kofler I had to wait one full hour. I'm not sure if it has changed, but I suspect it's still 1 hour. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 64 bit kernel in 32 bit system
On Monday 30 March 2009 16:36:52 Bill Davidsen wrote: I have read that there will be a feature to run a 64 bit kernel in a 32 bit install of FC11. I'm curious about the number of things it would take to build such a kernel for FC10 (other than building the kernel, obviously). Any input from whoever is does that part for fc11? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot That doesn't make sense, 64bit kernel on a 32bit cpu shouldn't work! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Saturday 21 March 2009 11:09:06 Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com: I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting. However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs! Why centOS is not a commercial success? CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to enable rpmfusion for Fedora. I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are not avalaible in Fedora! That is mostly an illusion created somewhat by the ubuntu user community. You said things look easier. Like what? Could you give a good example? The codecs are installed the same way and used the same way in both ubuntu and CentOS/Fedora. Regards However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one. This unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora Regards That codec-buddy, I saw it first in Fedora! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 Things Breaking
On Saturday 21 March 2009 23:38:30 Kevin Kofler wrote: Marko Vojinovic wrote: Kooldock is a very lame substitute for the real Mac OSX dock (tried both myself). Incidentally, that real Mac OSX dock is called cairo-dock, and is available for Fedora: yum install cairo-dock That's also an imitation. The original is proprietary and will most likely never be available outside of OS X itself. Kevin Kofler They have even patented the OSX dock just in case! These evil proprietary (put some random swear word)! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Virtual Box
On Friday 20 March 2009 17:18:21 Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 03:21:24PM -0300, Martín Marqués wrote: I'm trying to do some virtualization testing and I wanted to see Virtual Box that everybody is talking alot about. The thing is that I can't find the virtualbox packages in the fedora repository. Does it have some strange name? VirtualBox is free as in free beer, but it's not entirely free as in free speech. Its license prohibits some use, meaning it can't be free software. (One of the key freedoms of free software is the freedom to use it for any purpose.) That's why we don't carry it in Fedora. I'm surprised that more people don't just install the Virtualization group using yum, and use the Virtual Machine Manager (virt-manager) to create virtual machines. I do this all the time on my Fedora 10 box and it works like a charm. su -c 'yum groupinstall Virtualization ; service libvirtd start' Then run Applications System Tools Virtual Machine Manager. To install from a CD or DVD ISO image that you have on your hard disk, make sure you set its SELinux context properly: su -c 'chcon -t virt_image_t /path/to/some-os-image.iso' Thanks Paul, I have also been looking for an alternative to VirtualBox, it being non-free has been bothering me a lot! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Thursday 19 March 2009 05:35:16 Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ That, my friend, is called RHEL. :) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Thursday 19 March 2009 05:35:16 Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long Term support). My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included in. I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between: * KDE and GNOME for the destop * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player * abiword or openoffice as office writer . Technically, I will maintain a repository with a reduced number of packages. If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this project in july This distribution will be very useful for starter!! Best regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ Or, why bother with RHEL? CentOs is there to help you! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Thursday 19 March 2009 08:10:11 Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2009/3/19 Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br why not contribute with fedora and rpmfusion ? Normal users find this complicated (linux fans are more competent than usual users) ;) I have to agree with this point. Linux and its community really make you WANT to get involved. It's such a joy working with other open developers around the world. And plus, in the open community, there is a place for everyone. Why don't you make a Fedora re-spin for your class? It's dead easy! http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ sounds like an interesting blog! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora LTS , why not?
On Thursday 19 March 2009 12:07:42 Gordon Messmer wrote: Adel ESSAFI wrote: My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with 1. LTS 2. with a very reduce number of packages I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I think you underestimate the amount of effort involved in this. Fedora is a community with many members, and there still isn't enough manpower for an LTS release. The Fedora Legacy group already had a run at this, and eventually shut down for exactly that reason. People who are interested in something with a long lifetime are already using something else. If you're interested in a GNU/Linux system with a long support lifetime and no charge, I'd suggest using CentOS. Join up. Put your effort into supporting their work, and when you see what's involved, you'll be glad you didn't try to do it on your own. To be realistic (correct me if I'm wrong), RHEL is Fedora's LTS. And CentOS is the free clone of RHEL. Therefore, CentOS is Fedora's LTS. (I used pure logic here :) ) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to get planet access?
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 19:31:21 Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list, My question this time is how to do to put my blog on planet page of fedora? I have found no subscribe or any instruction on that page!! Am I right? Could you help please Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet_HowTo this should help! :) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: timeline for python 3?
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: I also don't see why it shouldn't be provided as a separate package. If it really is all that incompatible it is a completely different language anyway, and there is merely a coincidence that part of the name is composed of the letters python :-). Certainly the Qt3 gui toolkit is pretty much a completely different toolkit than Qt4, and fedora manages to ship both of those. There is a pretty big difference between a language with dozens and dozens of different modules that are often separate sub packages and a fairly self contained toolkit. Providing parallel versions is not a easy task and it is not the benefit outweighs the cost as seen in the discussions at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue155#The_Looming_Py3K_Monster At the moment, it is more of a wait and see if applications adopt it. Python 3 appears to be a initial developer release with more incompatible changes coming out. http://lwn.net/Articles/317900/ just to be clear, i wasn't pushing for it, i was just asking a question. :-) rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines This is the beauty of free software, you can always build it from source in whatever way you choose and play with it :) (that's actually what I'm planning to do in near future) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Church sound
On Thursday 12 March 2009 23:27:49 David Miller wrote: My church has decided that they would like to do digital recording using a computer in place using tape. I have setup a FC10 machine that I plan on using for this. I see several packages that will record but I don't want to have a 700M file. Is there a package that will break the recording into, lets say, 10min files and then be able to burn those to CD as audio tracks with zero time between tracks. At some point later I would like to get a camera and start doing video recording of the service and place of DVD. In both cases the church is also talking about putting streaming audio or streaming video on their web site. Looking for ideas on software. David What a cool church! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: creating own RPMs
On Wednesday 11 March 2009 20:09:57 David Hláčik wrote: Hello guys, I will be creating rpm packages for software company i work for. I have built a lot of rpm packages by myself, so I have experience with that. But my question is : How to make this process more comfortable and improve efficiency. So far i was creating packages by using rpmdevtools and rpmbuild itself. I've read about mock , which is chrooted environment for building SRPMs . But does this mock can be applied on spec files? Do i need to prepare srpm package before i can work with mock? If so, this will not help me much. How should i proceed with creation of srpms besides of rpm utils and rpmbuild build only source. Thanks in advance, David I would write a shell script to automate some of the building and updating. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
The state of Fedora and ARM
Hi everyone, I was wondering if Fedora was easily and painlessly usable on an ARM architecture/processor. Any thoughts on this issue? I wanted to know about it because of this cool gadget: http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ Thank you, -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lihat profil Facebook saya
On Monday 02 March 2009 02:00:28 Harry Ismail wrote: Hai And, Saya membuat profil Facebook yang dapat saya kirimi foto, video, dan acara saya dan saya ingin menambahkan Anda sebagai teman sehingga Anda dapat melihatnya. Sebelumnya, Anda perlu bergabung dengan Facebook! Setelah bergabung, Anda dapat juga membuat profil Anda sendiri. Terima kasih, Harry Untuk mendaftar ke Facebook, ikuti tautan berikut: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1495837449k=SYB333VZT63MZGG1TB33Ur Email ini dapat berisi materi promosi. Jika Anda tidak ingin menerima materi komersial dari Facebook, silakan klik tautan di bawah ini. Kantor Facebook beralamat di 156 University Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94301. http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=97063du=553050304 What? wrong address! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Linux users want better desktop performance (Screw data. Prioritize code)
On Friday 20 February 2009 16:18:12 Richard Shaw wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Alex de Jong alexander.dej...@home.nl wrote: That's why I switched to FluxBox. Damn ugly, but fast. I don't need the fancy blinking windows, sliding menu's or whatever, But I see your problem: things like BlackBox tend to get too ugly/unhandy fast... At work I need access to Exchange 2007 server and untill new Gnome comes out with MAPI support I have to run Outlook under windows under Virtualbox. The strange thing is that Firefox was running much faster under virtual machine than one running natively under Linux! I couldn't use native Firefox because somehow it would crawl... until I enabled these new options I saw recommended (vm.swappiness=1 and vm.vfs_cache_pressure=50). Now native running Firefox is as fast as one under virtual machine and I can finally use Firefox on Linux desktop... Any comments? -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines How about a new app: system-config-performance? Which would allow you to pick from several preconfigured profiles depending on your needs or the option to customize those settings. Just an idea. Richard That sounds like a cool idea! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora/Ubuntu Problems
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 12:14:20 Mark Haney wrote: GERALD HOOPER wrote: Hi Group I had to abandon installing Fedora because it was taking up too much space on my hard drive. Instead I installed Ubuntu 7.1 Gutsy Gibbon which took up much less space. I have had a problem with this updated version of Ubuntu however in that the Email system Evolution kept putting additional characters into my address on my broadband server at ntlworld.com which is run by Vergin Media through a cable connection to my home. I could not uninstall the Evolution Package because it seems to be an essential component of Ubuntu. I overcame my email problems by installing Mozilla Thunderbird which seems to be working OK and allows me to both send and receive mail Gerry Hooper ghp...@ntlworld.com So, your point? good point! So what's the point? -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Q's for senior fedora/redhat admins
On Friday 13 February 2009 06:37:53 Kevin Kofler wrote: la...@ausics.net wrote: Thank you for your reply, you're the only @fedora poster I see so I only read and respond to you,as you represent officialness, Paul W. Frields is the *Fedora Project Leader*, you idiot! so to avoid getting into long rantings with trolls Pot calling the kettle black. Kevin Kofler LOL!! I loved the last sentence (Pot calling the kettle black) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: collective nouns (was: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!)
On Friday 13 February 2009 10:25:18 Mark Haney wrote: Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:05:11 + Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote: Ian Malone wrote: 2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com: Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a word?) it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe! I'd like it a little shorter and go for 'Fedoran'. I've heard bigger is supposed to be better: Fedoristas (and it has that Spanish Bullfighter sound to it) -- Sam I'll see your Fedoristas and raise it two letters: Fedoraphiles -- cmg How about Fedoranatics? -- Frustra laborant quotquot se calculationibus fatigant pro inventione quadraturae circuli Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support Fedoramar? How about this one? -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: collective nouns (was: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!)
On Friday 13 February 2009 11:13:29 Sharpe, Sam J wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 09:19 -0500, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:05:11 + Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote: Ian Malone wrote: 2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com: Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a word?) it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe! I'd like it a little shorter and go for 'Fedoran'. I've heard bigger is supposed to be better: Fedoristas (and it has that Spanish Bullfighter sound to it) -- Sam I'll see your Fedoristas and raise it two letters: Fedoraphiles I'll see your Fedoraphiles and raise 2 more: Fedoraphiliacs Hmm. Sounds like a disease ... :-) It would probably be translatable as One who has an abnormal attraction to Fedora (c.f. Necrophiliac) Maybe there could be several collective nouns: Fedorallergics: People who break out into a rash at the very mention of it (Ubuntu users? ;o) Fedoraphobics: People who hate Fedora, but use it anyway. Fedoraphiles: People who like Fedora Fedoraphiliacs: People who like Fedora a little too much. -- Sam And I add: Fedoraphilistas (people who fight for Fedora and love it so much!) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Has livna gone belly up?
On Friday 13 February 2009 12:54:09 Steve Berg wrote: Anyone know what's up with rpm.livna.org lately? I was under the impression that one or two packages would still be hosted at livna since rpmfusion wouldn't/couldn't host them. But the last couple of days it's been unreachable. -- * Stephen Berg * * sb...@mississippi.com * * Sinners can repent, * * But stupid is forever. * http://thorstenl.blogspot.com/2009/02/rpmlivnaorg-is-not-dead.html no, it hasn't. Some server problems apparently! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: collective nouns (was: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!)
On Friday 13 February 2009 13:32:10 Aldo Foot wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote: Ian Malone wrote: 2009/2/12 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com: Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a word?) it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe! I'd like it a little shorter and go for 'Fedoran'. I've heard bigger is supposed to be better: Fedoristas (and it has that Spanish Bullfighter sound to it) I'll go with Fedorante --it sounds like a Don Quixote thing. ~af Fedoranito sounds good too! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fc, fc, fc, fc?
On Friday 13 February 2009 16:51:11 g wrote: should have used your wik instead of your dic. lol, that sounds like something else! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: First thoughts on KDE4.2... lots of bugs...
On Friday 13 February 2009 19:19:13 Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm finding a lot of bugs in KDE4.2 1) KDE asks for root permission when I open a folder with Dolphin from a folderview. 2) Kstart gets messed up when I go from classical mode to the kickoff mode. Half the kickoff menu extends below the bottom of my display. The Kstart widget icon gets big when I am done. 3) I've crashed plasma twice and I get errors when I start it from time to time. 4) I crashed one of my panels when I tried to rearrange the icons in it. Now I can't add a Konsole icon to it. 5) I get funky flashing menus in applications from time to time. 6) My display goes funky during boot up. It starts good but then displays parts of old windows then goes black (or blue) for a long time. After a while it goes normal, except that the desktop background doesn't display on my second monitor. I'm not saying KDE4.2 is bad, just that its not entirely stable. Hopefully there will be an update in the near future. After all, it is a .0 release. these all should go into bugzilla =) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is an internal Extender? (KDE 4.2)
On Saturday 14 February 2009 01:58:24 Kevin Kofler wrote: homb...@tips-q.com wrote: Presumably it has nothing to do with sexual intimacy. At least I hope not. Nevertheless, KDE 4.2 provides this widget. It puts a large dot on the desktop that doesn't seem to do anything. I think the internal in the name is a hint that you shouldn't touch that thing. :-) Kevin Kofler yea, but really, what is it for? I was wondering about it too! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
Obviously the OP didn't understand that we Fedoraites (is that a word?) it's actually 'Fedorian' I believe! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Thursday 12 February 2009 19:42:25 Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/2/12 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com: JD wrote: I have been a unix user since the early 70's. Were you even born then? Yes, I was born then - I was even working with computers then. So I have seen a bit of the computer world. You're both clearly in the same ballpark (the category of in computing before I was born) but the evidence suggests that maturity does not necessarily correlate with advancing years. I recently popped onto this list from the RHEL ones - I hope this thread isn't an indication of normality around here or I might as well go home. -- Sam if you're heart works on batteries, you might as well ignore these kinds of threads! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Q's for senior fedora/redhat admins
windows does it, ubuntu does it even for Q1 after accepting the warning, but Fedora won't. Your perceptions are wrong and you are not educating people correctly for reasons above. Fedora doesn't seem to need saving as it's community is just as vibrant and diverse as Ubuntu's - I follow both. Yes, any perception that somehow Fedora needs saving is plainly ignoring the explosive growth of our community, the advancement of technical features that we make available for *all* distributions (the open source way, you know), and the statistics we produce *openly and transparently* and publish on our wiki[1] (as opposed to making them up, and hoping everyone repeats them on our say-so). We have an incredibly vast and energetic community of which people who only use the distribution might not be fully aware. That's why we encourage people to get involved.[2] First of all, I should mention that because windows does it or $distro does it, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Rather, it means it's just another way of doing it. Secondly, I should highly agree with Paul Frields here because until I didn't get involved in Fedora, I had no idea what a great community it has. And now, I admit that I value the community much much more than the operating system itself, and sadly, I didn't realize that until very recently. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: miro 2.0
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 11:26:42 oleksandr korneta wrote: When can we expect it in fedora repositories? -- regards, Oleksandr Korneta I'm running F9 x86_64 and F10 i386 on x86_64 hardware, should this matter. /The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from./ It's already there: $ su -c 'yum install Miro' -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: miro 2.0
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 16:19:01 Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/2/10 Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 11 February 2009 11:26:42 oleksandr korneta wrote: When can we expect it in fedora repositories? snip It's already there: $ su -c 'yum install Miro' No it isn't [sjs...@cc-6910p ~]$ sudo yum info miro Available Packages Name : Miro Arch : x86_64 Version: 1.2.8 Release: 2.fc10 Version != 2.0 (which was released today) oh just wait a little then! =) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Q's for senior fedora/redhat admins
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 23:11:47 Kevin Kofler wrote: Terry Polzin wrote: run you're favorite Fedora version until it won't run any more Bad suggestion. Don't use releases which don't get security updates anymore. Kevin Kofler lol, my favorite Fedora version is rawhide ;) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Error Message trying to ./configure
On Monday 09 February 2009 14:14:38 Rex Dieter wrote: jim wrote: FC10/KDE Trying to compile a Linux Game and I get this error; checking for sdl-config... /usr/bin/sdl-config checking for SDL - version = 1.2.0... yes checking for IMG_Load in -lSDL_image... no configure: error: *** SDL_image not found! SDL_image-1.2.6-6.fc9.i386.rpm is installed. SDL_image-devel ? -- Rex yea, when you compile anything, if it complains about any dep, you have to install the -devel package. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: End of Saga WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Monday 09 February 2009 23:37:43 Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Leslie Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Leslie Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.com Subject: End of Saga WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!! To: encouragement and advice for using Fedora.Community assistance fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 7:04 PM Mark Be happy with your eventual choice. When some software is imposed, one is often negative, but when one chooses, then one is happy, and the complaints are about bugs. I am sure that your choice is as bug free as is Fedora, or perhaps even more, given your explanation. Regards and thank you for I guess is the longest thread in Fedora-list. :) Leslie Not even close :( Not even the KDE* flames/RANTS were that long :), this one is the thread to beat --- http://www.nabble.com/Why-is-Fedora-not-a-Free-GNU-Linux-distributions--td1 8426601i760.html Yes, you can thank me for reminding you :) How can I forget it? I saw somewhat a smaller version of it in Distrowatch Weekly comments section, but nowhere the glamor, glory that can be found here :) Regards, Antonio oh wow, that's one big huge fat immense enormous thread! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why I want to stop using Fedora!!!
On Sunday 08 February 2009 04:19:38 Frank Murphy wrote: Ask them, you may find aside from those who are sponsored by Red Hat, the community devlopers may be here because it is fast paced? Really Don't know, I haven't asked them yet. I'm here because Fedora is fast paced! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sunday 08 February 2009 17:44:52 Mike Chalmers wrote: I was frustrated, initially, because I would have liked to go ahead and get KDE 4.2 without having to go through a hard process, just a simple upgrade. LOL, so your problem is something completely un-related. Get the kde-redhat repo and do $ su -c 'yum update' Voila, you have KDE 4.2! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
Mike Chalmers wrote: I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. This is just not right. Should a distro keep continuing to make you install every six months, if so, I would rather use Microsoft. Why not provide updates, major ones, to the already installed OS instead of having to reinstall a new OS!!! I imagine that this, if done in an organized way, could be easier on the developers of Fedora. INSTEAD OF MAKING CONSUMERS INSTALL EVERY SIX MONTHS OR UNTIL THE UPDATES STOP, JUST PROVIDE LARGE UPDATES THAT UPGRADE A SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A COMPLETELY NEW INSTALL??? THEN YOU WILL HAVE A LARGER FAN BASE AND A MORE STABLE OS!!! On Saturday 07 February 2009 22:26:17 Robert L Cochran wrote: Try CentOS, it is the free version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. yes, use CentOS. Fedora has always had a rapid release cycle. The Red Hat backing, the Fedora community and the rapid releases are why I use it. I second that! I'm always excited when a new releases come out because it often means new features to play with which in turn can make my work life easier. Long live Fedora Bob Cochran Actually I should add that 6 month seems a long time for me to wait for a new release, so I go on rawhide about 2 months before the release! So long life support for Fedora really doesn't make sense, and it would be a detriment to the innovation of the community and it would take so much developer time to continue updates for a 2-year-old version. And I'm sure you understand that that developer time is better spent somewhere else. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sunday 08 February 2009 00:10:23 rajpal songara wrote: first off all thanks for reply i just want to know how browse internet in cdma wll phone in fedora i 'm fail to start requiring divers is second issue What?? What are you talking about? -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sunday 08 February 2009 00:44:28 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 20:16 -0800, rajpal songara wrote: First of all i'm thankful to your support but my really question is to browse internet with the help of the wll cdma phone wheather the drivers require or not ? is second issue You *really* need to stop doing this. It's called thread hijacking. Your question has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. If you want to start a new topic, compose a separate message, do *not* simply reply to an existing one. poc lol, I am laughing so hard! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
On Monday 02 February 2009 13:54:00 Robin Laing wrote: Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:53 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote: \SNIP the truth is though, that he is not the only one who switched from KDE to GNOME. It's about the expectations. When I installed F10 on the first machine, I tried Gnome and was so frustrated. I tried to switch to KDE but I couldn't get it to work but that was my fault. I didn't know about the session selector in GDM and was trying switch desktop function. After playing with Gnome, I found the same frustrations. Some nice improvements over the version in F7 but still reminded me of using MS Windows. No real control to improve the efficiency. KDE 4.1 is pretty good. I am having some weird issues that I don't like but I have not had a chance to figure out all the changes. I hear 4.2 is so much better than 4.2 so I think I will be really happy. Of course that is after I change the menu back to the classic menu from the Vista like menu. Ok, honestly, I have been trying to find out what do you guys in kick-off that is like window$, but I have yet to find out. I don't see anything to be the same except that there are some things and you click on them. My daughter prefers Gnome over KDE because KDE makes here think of Macs and she has had her fair share of nightmares with Mac's. that's the first time I'm hearing this. I personally agree that I would rather be using the KDE on F10 than GNOME but not everyone who disagrees is inherently wrong. Craig I will drink to that. To each their own. The person that turned me onto KDE now uses Gnome but is thinking of checking it out again when 4.2 comes out. KDE 4.2 is already out and I'v been using it for 2 months now (from RC) and the final came out last tuesday. You can get it from kde-redhat repo. -- Robin Laing -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What exactly is 'yum list recent' ??
On Monday 02 February 2009 23:26:38 William Case wrote: Sorry g, I asked the wrong question. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 22:13 -0500, William Case wrote: Thanks g; I had tried to phrase my question in such a way as to indicate I was asking a deeper question than could be answered by 'man'. For example, I have /var/log/rpmpkgs-20090201, that contains more packages than my most recent update but not all. I have 5 dated rpmpkgs in all. How or what is 'yum list recent' giving me? In this context, what does recent mean? Or, does yum get its recent list elsewhere? 'yum list recent' tells me what is recent in (external) repositories. I need to construct an rpm --query to get the answer I want about what has been recently downloaded onto my machine. I'll try that now. -- Regards Bill Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.2 Evo.2.24.3, Emacs 22.2.1 http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts/rpm-guide-en/index.html this might help you find your answer. It punches rpm commands to death. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: test
On Saturday 31 January 2009 10:30:14 Neal Becker wrote: test please ignore oh my god, I love these kinds of emails. They are so funny! (I know I should have ignored it, but something in me didn't let me do it!) -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: test
On Saturday 31 January 2009 10:58:16 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Armin wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009 10:30:14 Neal Becker wrote: test please ignore oh my god, I love these kinds of emails. They are so funny! (I know I should have ignored it, but something in me didn't let me do it!) Reminds me of the radio checks on CB radio... Mikkel hahahaha 1 2 3 test, 1 2 3 test, please ignore! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can one use a gnome splash screen
On Monday 12 January 2009 15:01:58 iarly selbir wrote: Since f9 you doesn't can change splash screen for gdm ( gnome ), but you can install kdm ( kde )that have support to do it. On that sense, you can enable KDM by changing the DISPLAYMANAGER and DESKTOP variables as follows: /etc/sysconfig/desktop (create this file if it's not already present) and this file should contain: DESKTOP=GNOME DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE note that DISPLAYMANAGER is KDE, not KDM! and if it doesn't work, check to see if you have kdm installed (it should probably be in /usr/bin or some other /bin) -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
On Friday 02 January 2009 16:15:35 Ambrogio wrote: On dom, 2008-12-21 at 14:05 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: That was the way things used to be. Now KDE is harder to configure, not as flexible and is difficult if not impossible to set up the way I like things (task manager showing 1 icon per console or per firefox, the workspace chooser in the middle, the ability to click and save a session etc etc). And what about the integration between KDE and Gnome applications. I'm not able to set the right language for Evolution, gimp and some other gnome application. Before in KDE 3 I never had that problems. Bye Ambrogio Guys, for god's sake, this thread is really starting to walk on my nerves. Have you guys ever tried 4.2 beta 2? And plus, if you love evolution, why not just use gnome. KMail in my opinion is way better and easier to configure that evolution and kde apps just make sense, and that is why I chose KDE. Plus, it's very good if you guys appreciate the work of KDE devs. They have *re-written* most of KDE, and with great change comes great problems. Use it, love it, adore it, and report it, and help it. :) If you don't have coding skills, help with the artwork, bug reports, documentation, etc. etc. and if you do have coding skills, fix the bugs. It's that easy! On top of all, I can do things now that I have never been able to do in KDE 3.x. And well, I won't forget to mention, Happy new year :) -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
HP Remote control in F10
Dear list, I have an HP m8200n Desktop computer and it has a remote control for media center purposes. I was wondering how I could set the remote control up and use it with anything, like movie player, for example. Can anybody help me here? Thank you, -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Customised F10 iso with updated packages - how?
On Monday 29 December 2008 16:45:44 Mike Cloaked wrote: I decided naively that it would be nice to make a new version of the f10 DVD iso that included the packages that were updated since F10 release - a personal re-spin if you like. However despite trying to google for jigdo options, as well as revisor and pungi I am now rather confused as to whether it is a job that can be done without too much effort. What I naively thought was that I could loop mount the original F10 DVD iso and then run jigdo-file to create a modified iso using the rpm files in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages/ to generate new .jigdo and .template files that could then be used by jigdo-lite to generate a respin iso - but it seems that it is not as simple as that! Perhaps I just did not understand the documentation I read! Can anyone point me to a howto that will allow me to create this kind of more-current f10 iso so that further installs on other machines might a) avoid having to run yum update to pull in lots of files, and only a small number in updates repors since I create the new iso after the install and b) avoid some of the known serious bugs such as the scsi disk non-bootable machine bug with updated nash/mkinitrd It would be nice if this were possible for a relatively experienced linux user but who does not have the detailed knowledge about this specific task. Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Customised-F10-iso-with-updated-packages---how--tp212 08881p21208881.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. They are called Fedora Remixes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom/Creating_Fedora_Remix and they are easy to make, I made one for my school's computer club which had some devel libraries we needed! -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Customised F10 iso with updated packages - how?
On Monday 29 December 2008 17:23:09 Mike Cloaked wrote: Armin Moradi wrote: They are called Fedora Remixes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom/Creating_Fedora_Remix and they are easy to make, I made one for my school's computer club which had some devel libraries we needed! Thanks for the link which is useful - though it seems to concentrate largely on live media. My primary interest in this case is to make install media but include updated rpms. It looks like revisor will be the optional tool so I will need to do some reading about it... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Customised-F10-iso-with-updated-packages---how--tp212 08881p21209318.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. You can take the concept and apply it to DVD Media, just take the DVD kickstart file instead of the livecd kickstart! -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unsung heros [OT]
On Monday 29 December 2008 20:32:14 jackie wallen wrote: hello fedora list, i have been around the linux/open source community for a long time. i haven't been on this list for a while however. let me get to the point. i am a freelance writer for CNET/Techrepublic. i am currently putting together an article 10 Unsung Linux Heros and am looking for good suggestions for candidates from this and other Linux-related lists. would anyone care to contribute ideas? thank you so much (and sorry for being off topic). -- Jack Wallen, Jr Idealists...foolish enough to throw caution to the winds...have advanced mankind and have enriched the world. Emma Goldman Well, I would say, in a Fedora list you would get a lot of responses for Fedora! And I, indeed, think Fedora is the ideal distribution for me and it just works the way I want it to work. One thing I really like about it is that it's bleeding edge and all the new stuff (NetworkManager, Plymouth, Smolt, etc.) come to Fedora first and then make their way to other distributions. Right now I'm in a rush and I have to go, but I will get back to you later :) -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: X with no KDE
On Tuesday 30 December 2008 00:21:17 Dave Feustel wrote: Is it possible to run X with no KDE software installed? If yes, how would the KDE software be deleted? (And how would it be restored if I changed my mind?) Thanks. Of course, KDE is just one of the many DE(Desktop Environment) available. The other most common one is GNOME. You are free to choose whichever one you like! If you want to remove KDE completely, you can do: su -c 'yum groupremove kde-desktop' and if you want to install it back: su -c 'yum groupinstall kde-desktop' But beware, when you remove it, there are some other things that might get removed like (I think) NetworkManager! -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Test, please ignore...
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@panet.co.yu wrote: I had some problems with my subscription, just checking that now everything is ok. Please ignore this message. Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I'm slightly bored, otherwise I would have ignored it ;) -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote: Armin Moradi wrote: You mean the PolicyKit prompts? Santa is bringing you this review request. ;-) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477199 I'm doing the review, I think we can get this into Rawhide soon, and then we'll see for F10 and F9. Kevin Kofler Thanks! :D will it be pushed as an update to F10? or should we wait till F11? Probably coming with/near kde-4.2, when it lands in updates. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Oh that's perfect, thanks Rex! -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Nope, I'm still using and comaintaining KDE, I don't see how KDE 4.1 is any worse than 3.5. Well, there's a couple of missing features, but most of those are coming back in 4.2. I don't think switching to GNOME makes any sense, really, but of course you're free to use whatever you prefer, as always. I really do hope that KDE4.2 lives up to expectations. I have until recently been a loyal user of KDE (from the days of FC1!) but felt I could not use KDE4.1 as it stands so I have temporarily switched to Gnome for F10. It is not perfect for some of the things I need though, and I am really hoping that when KDE4.2 is released to F10 in 2009 that it will be functional to a level where I can switch back to using KDE again. I have not tried the KDE 4.2 test version (in EPEL?) that I believe was recently made available, but it would be nice to see good reviews and summaries of what works and what is still missing or buggy so that when it is released I can feel confident of making the switch back. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/is-KDE-dead---did-Gnome-win--tp21118075p21126663.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I will tell you my opinion. KDE 4.2 (beta 2 for now) has lived up to more than my expectations. I don't really know what you guys expect from it, but it satisfies all of my needs and luxury desires. -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
Although I would like to see the dialog that asks for password, written in Qt so it would have a more native look. -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
You mean the PolicyKit prompts? Santa is bringing you this review request. ;-) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477199 I'm doing the review, I think we can get this into Rawhide soon, and then we'll see for F10 and F9. Kevin Kofler Thanks! :D will it be pushed as an update to F10? or should we wait till F11? -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
Red Hat and Fedora have always been more focused on GNOME than KDE, so it's hard to see any reason to continue with KDE now that the things that I like about it have been sacrificed on the altar of the KDE developers' grand vision. That argument is really old. Nowadays with the great work of the KDE SIG, Fedora is as much KDE centred as it is focused on GNOME. You see little to no difference between them these days! -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How should I set the overlay and home options of livecd-iso-to-disk ?
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using the livecd-iso-to-disk utility to make F10 KDE4.1.8x Live USB installations. It works pretty well. But I am not exactly sure what a couple of the options mean. I'm just using them. Here is the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo Here is what the usage info tells me: = # livecd-iso-to-disk /usr/bin/livecd-iso-to-disk [--reset-mbr] [--noverify] [--overlay-size-mb size] [--home-size-mb size] [--unencrypted-home] isopath usbstick device = From the man pages: = LIVECD-ISO-TO-DISK(8)LiveCD Tools LIVECD-ISO-TO-DISK(8) NAME livecd-iso-to-disk, install livecd-creator images in usb stick SYNOPSIS livecd-iso-to-disk [--reset-mbr] [--noverify] [--overlay-size-mb size] isopath usbstick device DESCRIPTION livecd-iso-to-disk converts a live cd or dvd image into a bootable USB stick. This is not a destructive process; any data you currently have on your USB stick will be preserved. OPTIONS --reset-mbr Resets Master Boot Record of usb stick by copying syslinux's mbr.bin. --noverify Disables image validation before installing it. --overlay-size-mb Overlay's size in megabytes. Note that you'll need to have space on your USB stick for the live image plus your overlay plus any other data you want on the stick. ... === The command I am actually using is: # livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --noverify --overlay-size-mb 100 --home-size-mb 150 --unencrypted-home --delete-home /home/xxx/Download/f10-kde-4.1.85-3/livecd-f10-kde-4.1.85-200812181534.iso /dev/sdc1 I don't understand what the overlay is and what is stored in it ? Does the home directory reside within the overlay or is it outside it ? On a 4GB USB drive, how large should I make /home and overlay ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Overlay is essentially (as I understand) a pseudo filesystem for your usb drive so your data can be persistent and you can actually save stuff in you live usb!! -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: XFCE 4.5.92 rpm for Fedora 10 ?
If you have rpms, I could test with my FC 10 box here, +1 -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11
You can change the configuration in no time, but for me, the default works good! -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Free (as in speech) flash alternative
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Armin Moradi wrote: The problem is simple. I don't want to use Adobe flash and so I need a free alternative. I run F10 with KDE4.2 beta 2 (from kde-redhat repo) and it's x86_64 arch, if any of that helps. Sure, you can run ogg-vorbis if you want. Please go read the technical discussion on another list, it's not a Fedora issue it's a codec issue. O-V is free (but see the legal groups on that, as well). Also I would like to know if I can somehow get flash working in Konqueror. Wait... is this a case of you not wanting to run flash because it offends your moral sense that it's not open source, or because you can't make it work? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I can make it work perfectly, but as you said, it offends my morals because it's not free! -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 KDE 4 Tutorial / Getting Used to Guide
Anyone know of a quick read that explains the basics and points a new user through? This might help: http://userbase.kde.org/An_introduction_to_KDE -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Free (as in speech) flash alternative
The problem is simple. I don't want to use Adobe flash and so I need a free alternative. I run F10 with KDE4.2 beta 2 (from kde-redhat repo) and it's x86_64 arch, if any of that helps. Also I would like to know if I can somehow get flash working in Konqueror. Thank you, -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: All I want for Christmas is... F10 KDE4.2 Live... for testing...
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:36 PM, linux guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 13:04 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: Just a reminder to the powers that be that it would be great to have a F10 KDE4.2 Live iso so that we get some mileage on KDE4.2 before it gets released in January. You better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pout, I'm telling you why... Santa Claus is coming to town... http://rdieter.livejournal.com/10597.html ^downloading Christmas comes early. Good work, Rex. Where do we report bugs ? Tricky, since these are unofficial/unsupported bits. If your *certain* it's a fedora issue - bugzilla.redhat.com against ... rawhide? If you're *certain* it's a kde issue - bugs.kde.org else, ask for feedback/help (here?) Thanks again Rex. I am typing this from the Live KDE4.1.8 session. How do I get some data persistence ? For example, I just installed firefox and the flash player on this session. How could they be present in my next session ? I can't use konqueror to check my gmail account, where I am typing this from... I have a spare 1 GB USB key. Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Install livecd-tools and use livecd-iso-to-disk to put the image on your flash drive. type livecd-iso-to-disk --help for how to use it! -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: All I want for Christmas is... F10 KDE4.2 Live... for testing...
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:56 PM, linux guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Armin Moradi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get some data persistence ? For example, I just installed firefox and the flash player on this session. How could they be present in my next session ? I can't use konqueror to check my gmail account, where I am typing this from... I have a spare 1 GB USB key. Thanks. Install livecd-tools and use livecd-iso-to-disk to put the image on your flash drive. type livecd-iso-to-disk --help for how to use it! livecd-iso-to-disk looks like it will take the iso on the cd and put it to my usb device. Which is OK. Is there a way that it will include the downloads and stuff that I have performed thus far so that I don't have to redo them again when I reboot ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines brief guide here (DISCLAIMER: if I remember correctly): # livecd-is-to-disk --overlay-size-mb XXX /path/to/kde.iso /dev/sdXX the first 3 X representing the number of MB you want to overlay and the second X being your flash drive. And you can get the info for you flash drive (where it's mounted) by: $ df -h -- Armin Character is a muscle -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: All I want for Christmas is... F10 KDE4.2 Live... for testing...
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 17:40 +, dexter wrote: 2008/12/8 Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a reminder to the powers that be that it would be great to have a F10 KDE4.2 Live iso so that we get some mileage on KDE4.2 before it gets released in January. The word on the street is unbranded beta releases and livecd's will show up in kde-redhat unstable in a week or so for F10 maybe F9 but only if you have been a good boy this year. Google kde-redhat for the mailing list. Thanks ! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Also you can now enable kde-redhat repo and update your kde to kde 4.1.80 (4.2 beta 1). -- Armin Past is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, But today is a gift. That's why it's called, present. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10: Lots of issues... Evolution, Synaptic (touch pad), Plasma (folder view)...
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 08:56 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 21:37 -0500, Linuxguy123 wrote: 1) Evolution is asking for the passwords for all my mail accounts every time I start it. I fixed this problem by 1) shut down evolution 2) rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/ 3) pkill gnome-key 4) run evolution -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines give kmail a try too if you are using KDE, it's quite nice! -- Armin Past is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, But today is a gift. That's why it's called, present. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
