Tracker indexes emails... but not contacts?
Hello all, I've began using tracker (under KDE...) to index my document, emails and C sources. Thus far, it seems to be working just fine. However, I cannot seem to get it to index my contacts. Read: Searching for user X, will show all of his emails and documents, but I won't get his contact information. Am I missing anything? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I get SB X-FI sound card working on Fedora 12
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 19:56 -0600, John Nissley wrote: This in not the case here. The card is not muted. alsamixer looks normal and nothing is muted. I tried to run pavucontrol and it would not connect. I have pulse audio installed but to be honest I usually un-install pulseaudio because it never seems to work correctly. Audio in linux / Fedora has always been a challenge for me. To be honest, F12 was the first time I stopped removing pulse as the first post-install step. I've got 3 sound cards, and amazing as it sounds, pulse simply works - and across the board! (virtualbox, KDE, skype, flash, games.) Back to the subject, is pulseaudio alive? $ ps -AH | grep pulse Another point that I probably should have made earlier is that I did compile alsa-driver-1.0.22.1.0.g2d697.0.g88788 since I thought I would need it. Uggghhh snd-ctxfi is already a part of the built in alsa package (1.0.21) shipped with Fedora 12. I assume that you also did a make install when compiling the alsa-driver tarball, right? (Giving you a hybrid fedora + source installing) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I get SB X-FI sound card working on Fedora 12
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 10:58 -0600, John Nissley wrote: According to the alsa matrix its supposed to be included in alsa 1.0.21,. ... Though, as I far as I remember, this is still initial support. What's the output of $ /sbin/lsmod | grep snd_? - Gilboa - Output as follows: bash-4.0$ lsmod | grep snd_* snd_hda_codec_ca0110 8816 1 snd_hda_intel 29024 2 snd_hda_codec 79536 2 snd_hda_codec_ca0110,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 9384 1 snd_hda_codec snd_seq55440 0 snd_seq_device 7860 1 snd_seq snd_pcm79400 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer 22128 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd64968 11 snd_hda_codec_ca0110,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 7328 1 snd snd_page_alloc 1 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm Your X-FI seems to be loaded just fine. Stupid question... Have you un-muted your sound card? (By default sound is muted.) If you did, please install alsa-utils and check if alsa-mixer sees and can control the sound card. If it doesn't please install pavucontrol and check that pulseaudio is configured correctly. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I get SB X-FI sound card working on Fedora 12
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 14:47 -0600, John Nissley wrote: I am running Fedora 12 and am up to date on the updates. I have a Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio sound card and can not seem to get it to work and from reading the mailing lists I could find the 6.31 kernel should have support for this card built in. uname information 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 21 05:33:33 UTC 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux lspci pertinent infomation 04:00.0 Audio device: Creative Labs [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG The mixer GUI shows HD-Audio Generic. According to the alsa matrix its supposed to be included in alsa 1.0.21,. ... Though, as I far as I remember, this is still initial support. What's the output of $ /sbin/lsmod | grep snd_? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New plugin for system-config-network for PPTP connections
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 21:02 +1000, Сергей Варюхин wrote: Hi, i create new plugin for system-config-network as my course work in FESU university. It is plugin for PPTP connections. See links to archive and patch for details. Unfortunately, i don't know how to send patches in initscripts (ifup and ifdown scripts etc.), so can somebody do it yourself instead me? I include in message links to .patch-file with my modifications to latest HEAD of system-config-network and archive file with package snapshot from my fedora 11 installation. (ifup-pptp and ifdown-pptp scripts can be found in this archive) It is strange: i send this patches to maintainer of system-config-network (har...@redhat.com) one week ago, but still no answer from him. Does anybody can suggest me, how rightly send patches to upstream of system-config-network and initscripts? Thanks in advance. Cepreu. Try posting a message in Fedora-devel mailing list [1] - or file an RFE (request for enhancement) in the bugzilla [2]. - Gilboa [1] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dell 2209WA e-IPS monitor and Fedora
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 20:28 +0200, Mark Ryden wrote: Hello, I am thinking of buying a Dell 2209WA 22'' display and to use it under Fedora. I need this monitor especially for long hours of writing code and reading documents. I do not intend to use it at all for movies/games. This monitor is a bit more expensive than the average; however, it has an e-IPS panel, which is (so I was told) a bit better than the common panels (TN). I would appreciate if anybody who had tried this monitor with Fedora can give any feedback to this post. Especially I am interested in whether he could set the resolution to 1680 x 1050 (which is the maximum resolution for this monitor) and which model of display adapter did he use, and was he satisfied with this monitor. (Especially was the text sharp enough, and would he recommend this display for long hours of text-based usage like programming/reading docs). Rgs, Mark PS (Also I would like to know the output of running : xrandr). I've got a 22 DELL 2208WFP (TN) and a 24 2408WFP (S-PVA), and I can't say that the difference between the two is earth shattering. Unless you are into image retouching, a good TN is Good Enough(tm). Both monitor are auto detected (1680x1050, 1920x1200) out of the box by both the nouveau driver and the binary nVidia drivers. - Gilboa - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia some actions X 100% CPU
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 06:21 -0800, Rich Emberson wrote: Need to fix kmod-nvidia or uninstall it. This weekend installed fedora 12 on laptop replacing fedora 9. Laptop has a GeForce 9600M GT nvidia card. With fedora 9, used kmod with no problems. After initial install, using the default nouveau worked. Following: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html installed kmod-nvidia. edited grub.conf adding rdblacklist=nouveau to end of kernel line. edited /etc/sysconfig/livna-config-display - it already had active = True. rebooted. Running Kde many things work with kmod-nvidia but now when the kickoff application launcher is clicked, the CPU goes to 100% all in the the X process. After about 15 second, the launcher menu is displayed and can be used. So, I'd like to know either how to fix this or how I can uninstall kmod-nvidia and go back to the nouveau driver. Thanks Known issue. An Xorg fix broken nVidia binary drivers. Follow the solution in this [1] bug. (Requires installing the latest Xorg from koji [or update testing - not sure it's there yet]) - Gilboa [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533620 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Software RAID question
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 16:54 -0500, Jeffrey Ross wrote: I'm trying to mirror my two disks in my system (F12 x86_64)... I have the following disk partitions Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/md127 7692840508960 6793104 7% / tmpfs 1016196 260 1015936 1% /dev/shm /dev/md1380760 44094316993 13% /boot /dev/sda6 7684844 3956688 3337780 55% /usr /dev/md5 7692776418204 6883800 6% /var /dev/md7 934037448 388908936 497682148 44% /home I am trying to get /dev/sda6 and /dev/sdb6 to become a RAID-1 volume... I have created /dev/md6 as a degraded array and copied everything from /dev/sda6 to /dev/md6 in single user mode (actually booted from the recovery CD) and after mounting both partitions ran find . -depth | cpio --passthrough --reset-access-time --make-directories --preserve-modification-time /mnt2 (/dev/md6 was mounted on /mnt2). The copy took a few minutes and completed successfully. I then modified my /etc/fstab to read (only showing physical disks) (I commented the old UUID and added the new UUID) UUID=abcf3490-11d2-4641-bf47-c33d1614066d / ext4defaults 1 1 UUID=e28d03fe-50ec-4313-a281-f1abecd4ed10 /boot ext4defaults 1 2 # following is /dev/sda6 #UUID=3b891301-1b89-447b-81e3-4ddc5c835b3f /usrext4defaults 1 2 # following is /dev/md6 UUID=e0eb5abe-1765-48f7-923f-da8295b54313 /usr ext4defaults 1 2 UUID=e35b19c3-b303-49fc-87d4-0712ac3de571 /varext4defaults 1 2 UUID=6f6600c4-5577-4617-b312-649fc2e2706a swapswapdefaults 0 0 UUID=93cc01f6-98e7-445b-bdc4-37356588e957 /home ext4defaults 0 0 My mdadm.conf file reads - MAILADDR root ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=1c0ba7ba:5b4e8354:14c0bbc3:de3ed72e ARRAY /dev/md127 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=1bcb5496:c7d158e6:14c0bbc3:de3ed72e ARRAY /dev/md3 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=1cea36b2:9f1a3ab8:14c0bbc3:de3ed72e ARRAY /dev/md5 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=ab27f39f:f0e972c9:14c0bbc3:de3ed72e ARRAY /dev/md7 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=398fe67f:959048ba:14c0bbc3:de3ed72e ARRAY /dev/md6 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=9b98d1c6:73b621e1:14c0bbc3:de3ed72e The entries for the disks in /dev/disk/by-uuid - lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-12-13 15:44 3b891301-1b89-447b-81e3-4ddc5c835b3f - ../../sda6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2009-12-13 15:44 e0eb5abe-1765-48f7-923f-da8295b54313 - ../../md6 I copied the initramfs-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64.img file to another directory and decompressed and extracted it and the only reference I found in there to the raid disks was in etc/mdadm.conf which was identical what is in /etc/mdadm.conf I can mount /dev/md6 manually (as something other than /usr) with no issues I think I'm missing something pretty simple, another set of eyes would be appreciated TIA, Jeff I assume that the new setup doesn't boot? (You didn't mention what's wrong.) What is the new partition type? (Should be Linux raid autodetect or fb) .. As for your fstab, why are you using the UUID? I usually remove the UUID's and use the actual device name, IMHO its far easier to work with... - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anaconda loses ~100 GByte of disk when installing Fedora 12, was Part of hard disk disappeared...
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 08:49 +0100, M. Fioretti wrote: On Wed, November 25, 2009 8:47 am, Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 08:39 +0100, M. Fioretti wrote: Monday I installed Fedora 12 x86_64 on that disk, accepting all the defaults. Installation went OK, but I ended up with a disk that (see command outputs below) has logical volumes containing swap, /boot on /dev/sda1, / on /dev/sda2, for a total space, if I understand correctly, of only 250 GB. What happened and why? Where are those missing ~100 GBytes, and how do I recover them without reinstalling from scratch? Please paste also the output of # fdisk -l /dev/sda Here it is, thanks: [r...@polaris ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000acea3 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 26 204800 83 Linux Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda2 26 30401 243991201 8e Linux LVM According to fdisk, you only have 250GB drive. BIOS issue? I'll be interesting to look at the kernel log. Could you post the contents of /var/log/dmesg? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HP DL360 G6 ILLEGAL OPCODE
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 12:16 +0100, Michael Welle wrote: Hi, well, I wish the situation would be as clear as that... I will not fingerpointing on someone in the public, but it might turn out as a software issue, but not one of the OS vendors. I've got a simple test. Try installing RHEL 5.4 / CentOS 5.4 (Officially supported by HP). If it works, its a grub regression in Fedora 12. If it doesn't, contact HP. P.S. We have used a number of DL380G6 running RHEL 5.4/64 and I never noticed anything wrong. Sadly enough, there are out of my reach so I can't really test F12 on'em. Are you from HP support ;)? Last time I checked, no. (We simply use a lot of HP servers... :)) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HP DL360 G6 ILLEGAL OPCODE
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 19:36 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 12:16 +0100, Michael Welle wrote: Hi, well, I wish the situation would be as clear as that... I will not fingerpointing on someone in the public, but it might turn out as a software issue, but not one of the OS vendors. I've got a simple test. Try installing RHEL 5.4 / CentOS 5.4 (Officially supported by HP). If it works, its a grub regression in Fedora 12. If it doesn't, contact HP. P.S. We have used a number of DL380G6 running RHEL 5.4/64 and I never noticed anything wrong. Sadly enough, there are out of my reach so I can't really test F12 on'em. Please ignore. Just noticed that the problem was solve. Good to hear. :) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Kernel failure while writing DVD-RAM
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 10:43 +, Dave Higton wrote: Hello Dave, Sorry for the late reply. Somehow missed you message due to excessive F12-release noise. :) OK. I've just been Googling for warn_slowpath, but although I've found lots of examples, I don't know what it means. My guess is that it's used as a diagnostic by some code, probably kernel code, so the next challenge is to find where it was called from. Yes? I tried tracking down the kernel code... Are you getting a real crash or some kind of failure. More information since my original posting: fillDVD2 is a test app that I wrote as part of an effort to test the ability of Fedora to write DVD-RAM discs. We have experienced numerous failures, but we don't yet understand why. fillDVD2 wasn't testing for errors. An error occurred somewhere, but fillDVD2 carried on trying to write to the DVD-RAM disc. This doesn't work; once DVD-RAM writing has failed, no subsequent attempts will succeed. The disc has to be ejected. I revised fillDVD2 to stop on an error. A subsequent test showed that the first error, at a similar point (when the disc was within a few hundred MB of getting full), was I/O error. Not very meaningful to me. Other than the WARN_ON, are you seeing anything useful in the kernel log? uname -a says: 2.6.27.38-170.2.113.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed Nov 4 17:55:39 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNULinux We originally wanted to use CentOS but were never able to solve a real-time problem it gave us: we need to service interrupts from our cards every 32 ms. Normally the IRQ is active for no more than 8 us before it's serviced; under CentOS this would often exceed 20 ms and we would lose data. Weird. 8us sounds right under both RHEL and Fedora. Care to take it off ML? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HP DL360 G6 ILLEGAL OPCODE
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 18:23 +, Andrew Hall wrote: Just installed Fedora 12 on an HP DL360 G6 which went on fine. But as soon as I attempt to boot the OS - at the point GRUB stage 1 should load - I get a red screen with an illegal opcode. Try to install again - all fine. Reboot again - illegal opcode. Is anyone else seeing this with HP hardware ? Thanks. I'm running Fedora on a large number of AMD based DL385/585 machines and I've never seen this issue. However, it looks like a pure software issue. I'd suggest you file a bug report. P.S. Are you using the latest firmware? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel failure while writing DVD-RAM
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:10 +, Dave Higton wrote: I'm testing DVD-RAM writing and reading for reliability under Fedoras 10 and 5. While writing some files under F10 this afternoon, there was a kernel failure. Details below: WARNING: at fs/buffer.c:1186 mark_buffer_dirty+0x27/0x79() (Not tainted) Hardware name: OptiPlex 755 Modules linked in: udf crc_itu_t fuse i915 drm bridge stp bnep sco l2cap bluetooth sunrpc nf_conntrack_netbios_ns nf_conntrack_ftp ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand acpi_cpufreq dm_multipath uinput snd_hda_intel snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_hwdep ata_generic i2c_i801 snd ppdev i2c_core iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support parport_pc pata_acpi serio_raw dcdbas soundcore pcspkr parport e1000e e1000 joydev [last unloaded: microcode] Pid: 12876, comm: fillDVD2 Not tainted 2.6.27.37-170.2.104.fc10.i686 #1 [c042ddfb] warn_on_slowpath+0x65/0x8b [c04228dc] ? __enqueue_entity+0xe3/0xeb [c0424346] ? enqueue_entity+0x203/0x20b [c06abe09] ? _spin_lock+0x8/0xb [c0495510] ? inode_sub_bytes+0x69/0x71 [c04afeef] mark_buffer_dirty+0x27/0x79 [f8ea4cb3] udf_bitmap_free_blocks+0xf8/0x12e [udf] [f8ea51ba] udf_free_blocks+0x62/0x8c [udf] [f8eae3f1] extent_trunc+0xe5/0xf0 [udf] [f8eae88a] udf_discard_prealloc+0xce/0x17b [udf] [f8ea5844] udf_release_file+0x18/0x22 [udf] [c04939ad] __fput+0xad/0x13d [c0493a54] fput+0x17/0x19 [c04912e7] filp_close+0x50/0x5a [c0491363] sys_close+0x72/0xb1 [c0404c8a] syscall_call+0x7/0xb === ---[ end trace d4c5a1d53380a8a7 ]--- This is a standard installation from a Fedora 10 DVD, whose image was taken from the web. Other than yup, it's broken, does the above trace mean anything to anyone, and is there anything I can do to make it work reliably or even to diagnose it further? fillDVD2 is my app, written in C, which simply writes sequential files of 1 MB each to the DVD on /dev/sr0. I can post the source if anyone wants to see it. Looking further ahead, the aim was to try to fix writing DVD-RAM under Fedora 5. We know this is broken, and I was hoping to back-port the F10 code to F5. Up to now, we had only observed failures under F5, never F10 - this is the first. The failures were entirely different: F5 would occasionally fail to write beyond 4 GB, and would consistently write DVD-RAMs that showed allocation errors when examined by the Philips udf_test application. F10 has never exhibited either of those failures. F5 has never shown an oops. Now it seems I can no longer rely on the F10 UDF code either. Dave Dave, This doesn't look like an oops. This is a simple WARN_ON (or actually, in this case, warn_slowpath). Are you getting a real crash or some kind of failure. Can you please post: A. Kernel version. B. Serial port output. (Should capture the actual OOPs) Beyond that, F10 is nearing EOL. I'd suggest you hurry up and file a bug report before it dies. Maybe the Fedora kernel guys will fix in the last F10 update. (I'd also include the fillDVD code in the bug report.) As for back-porting fixes from F10 to F5, I'd consider switching to CentOS/RHEL 5.4 instead, and back porting only the important stuff you really (really) need from F10. P.S. Are you by any chance related to Nice U.K? If so, please say Hello to Russ. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 07:42 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 06:51 +0200, Gilboa Davara a écrit : I own both icewm and idesk. As far as I know, both icewm and idesk are linked against xft and should not default to core fonts. (Unless I completely misunderstanding something...) I've been asked to filter out xft matches next run, so if they *only* do xft they won't appear again. Thanks. - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 13:11 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Hi, It has been plain since 2003¹ our new font access standard would be fontconfig. Since then most users of the old core fonts X11 backend have migrated, but there are still a few stragglers. Unfortunately these stragglers matter. Core fonts were not good in 2003, and they didn't get any better since. Few users means life-support maintenance only, no one to replace/fix core fonts when a technical or legal problem causes them to be dropped, no one to update them when encoding standards change. Also, few users means we do not install core font packages by default anymore, so packagers that depend on them but forgot to mark the deps in their packages will deliver broken packages to users. Every remaining core font user is therefore likely to hit more and more problems as time passes. Each of those problems produces as a side effect Fedora fonts suck messages on the Internet, messages that detract on all the terrific work Fedora people do on our main font backend (and associated fonts). End-users are not educated enough to recognize the root of their problems is the use of a deprecated almost-no-maintained tech (and they should not have to bother about it). Therefore, I'd like to identify remaining core font users, and remind them periodically their core font use is not good for their users or for Fedora. Since there is not question of deliberately removing core fonts infrastructure from Fedora, I need to whitelist first the few files used to maintain this infrastructure (xfontsel and xlsfonts are such files; twm and gtk1 — not). I'd therefore be grateful if people checked the following list and pointed to me files that need to be removed for this reason. Please answer this message with statements such as file foo can be removed from the list because it is used this way to manage the core fonts backend or to propagate the core font protocol to X11 clients. Again, widget libraries or utilities that made use of the core fonts backend when it was the font access standard, do not count. Also modern libraries that have some form of vestigial core fonts code hidden deep inside them should probably just excise it (this use it probably worse than apps that only use core fonts , since those apps at least test regularly if their core fonts use is not totally broken). • icewm icewm-0:1.2.37-5.fc12 — /usr/bin/icehelp — /usr/bin/icesh — /usr/bin/icewm-session — /usr/bin/icewmbg — /usr/bin/icewmtray — /usr/bin/icewm • idesk idesk-0:0.7.5-9.fc12 — /usr/bin/idesk I own both icewm and idesk. As far as I know, both icewm and idesk are linked against xft and should not default to core fonts. (Unless I completely misunderstanding something...) - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 06:51 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: I own both icewm and idesk. As far as I know, both icewm and idesk are linked against xft and should not default to core fonts. (Unless I completely misunderstanding something...) - Gilboa OK. Did some reading. I more-or-less understand the scope of the problem. Not sure there's something I can do about it. (In both cases upstream either moved to different path or dropped support completely), but I'll see what I can do about it. - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Checking if running kernel compiled with CONFIG_PREEMPT
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 17:21 +, planetf1 wrote: I have a 2.6.31 kernel from F12. I believe I've built it with CONFIG_PREEMPT but given the intracacies of the rpm build, what's the easiest way to check an installed kernel to see if that flag had been used during build? grep CONFIG_PREEMPT /boot/config-$(uname -r) (Replace the uname -r by the kernel version for kernels other than the current running kernel) - Gilboa ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: fc-11 on IBM e server
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 09:05 -0400, kevin graff wrote: Hello I have an IBM e-server x-series 335 with 2 xeon 2.6 GHz and 1 Gig of ram. Can you post the complete configuration of the machine? (CPU model, etc) It uses a built in raid controller I have set up as a Raid 1 with 2 36 GIG hard drives. If I try to install using 64 bit version it tells me that there are know 64 bit CPU and to use other version if I install 32 bit version with the ACPI=off I can get it to install but it locks up all the time. Most time I get a CPU 1 not responding error also when I check the hardware it reports back 2 cpu I would have thought that it should have shown 4 cpus since I have 2 dual core cpus running hyper threading. You sure you have dual core CPUs and not two single core / HT capable P4 Xeon CPUs (hence the lack of x86_64 support)? The severe is an old one and the problem could be in the hardware, I have been using Fedora since core 1 and never ran into so much trouble dose any one have any experience install fedora on this server? You best bet is to download CentOS 5.4 i386 DVD and see if it works. If it doesn't, you're looking at a hardware issue. If it does, you'll have to connect your machine via serial cable to another machine so you could post the complete kernel boot log. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: BIOS update
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 00:04 +0400, Hiisi wrote: 2009/9/27 Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com: --SNIP-- BIOS.exe. The error is: 'This program can't be run in DOS' Make sure you've downloaded the DOS version of their flash utility. (Usually called... flash.exe). I'm using in on a number of Gigabyte boards using freedos and it works just fine. I have VirtualBox installed on the computer. Is it possible to update BIOS from window$XP on virtual machine as guest? Nope. Virtual machines cannot really see real hardware. (Hence the name virtual.) Thanks in advance! P.S. which board is it? From lshw output: ... description: Motherboard product: S651MPRZ vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 ... There's no flash.exe on gigabyte page: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/BIOS_Model.aspx?ProductID=1792 - Gilboa Please downloaded your BIOS and follow my instruction. (I tested them on my Fedora - minus the flash, most of my Gigabyte boards are AMD based...) $ mkdir Temp $ cd Temp $ wget http://europe.giga-byte.com/FileList/BIOS/motherboard_bios_s651mprz_f8.exe ... $ WINEPREFIX=$PWD wine motherboard_bios_s651mprz_f8.exe ... $ ls autoexec.bat dosdevices drive_c FLASH891.EXE motherboard_bios_s651mprz_f8.exe s651mprz.f8 Now copy the FLASH891.EXE and s651mprz.f8 and autoexec.bat files to your freedos and floppy / USB disk / FAT partition / freedos network boot image and flash the BIOS. Delete the Temp directory once your down. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: BIOS update
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 22:58 +0400, Hiisi wrote: Dear all! I would like to update BIOS on my desktop. It has gigabyte motherboard and manufacturer provides only exe-utility for BIOS update. I was trying to follow this tip: http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html It is possible to boot into FreeDOS but it's impossible to run BIOS.exe. The error is: 'This program can't be run in DOS' Make sure you've downloaded the DOS version of their flash utility. (Usually called... flash.exe). I'm using in on a number of Gigabyte boards using freedos and it works just fine. I have VirtualBox installed on the computer. Is it possible to update BIOS from window$XP on virtual machine as guest? Nope. Virtual machines cannot really see real hardware. (Hence the name virtual.) Thanks in advance! P.S. which board is it? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 03:06 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; If it is any consolation to you, I am having exactly the same problem with the 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.x86_64 kernel. akmod-nividia-185.18.14-1.fc11.x86_64 doesn't work and kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-217.2.7.fc11.x86_64-185.18.14-1.fc11.5.x86_64q is the last nvidia module I have received. In what sense does akmod not work? Do you get messages at boot, in dmesg, or in /var/log/messages? What happens if you run akmods --force from the command line (as root)? (If you aren't running the kernel you want to build for, add --kernels kernel-version.) FWIW, aknod worked smooth as silk here (Quadro NVS 140M 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.x86_64) and even with legacy drivers (GeForce FX 5400 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i686.PAE). I'm using the akmod for a while now (on 4 different machines) and they seem to work just fine. However, make sure you: 1. Install the required packages: (64bit with multi-lib in this case) xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i586 akmod-nvidia.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.86_64 2. Build the required modules: /etc/init.d/akmods restart /etc/init.d/nvidia restart 3. Add the missing module configurations in xorg.conf Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/ ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/drivers ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules EndSection 4. Restart X. Hope it helps, - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Intel DX58S0 (i7) motherboard and pci=nommconf
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 10:26 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: I asked about this the other day with no response so I'll bring it up again, and include some detail that may be useful to others. This computer is has an Intel i7-940 CPU and a DX58S0 motherboard. I have updated it to the latest bios that's available from Intel's website. With the default Fedora 11 installation, it will hang up on a warm boot. When it boots normally it shows a quick Intel splash screen, the Grub, then loads Fedora 11. If I warm boot it, most of the time it hangs up either right before or right after the Intel splash screen, with a black screen and a flashing cursor at the top left-hand side. Edit your /etc/grub.conf, change: timeout=0 to timeout=10 and comment out hidemenu. Next, remove quiet and rhgb. This should give you more information on what exactly hangs and when. P.S. Any chance you have a second machine and a serial cable? If I cold-boot it (turn the machine off for a minute then turn it back on) it boots up and works fine. After much experimenting I have discovered that this problem seems to go away (at least so far) if I put pci=nommconf into my grub.conf file. As far as I remember nommconf forces the kernel to ignore the PCI configuration tables - which as far as I remember, are being generated by the BIOS. (Anyone else?) I find it hard to believe that an Intel board generates broken PCI configuration tables. Can you post the complete machine configuration? Therefore, if anyone else has one of these motherboards, you might want to try pci=nommconf and see if that solves the problem. I still don't completely understand what it is that I am giving up or changing by using pci=nommconf. This computer appears to perform just as well with that line as without it. So what is the advantage of pci=mmconf (the default) versus pci=nommconf? Or are we just looking at two different routes to the same destination? As far as I know, if everything works, it means that the kernel managed to discover and configure all the PCI devices correctly and as such, I see no harm in using it. Either way, given the fact that it doesn't happen during cold boot, it looks like a hardware issue to me. I'd consider contacting your MB manufacturer. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is there a burt on ifconfig for fedora11?
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 22:28 +0530, Sarkar, Kaushik wrote: NETMASK=255.225.255.0 ^^^ Should be 255 and not 225. ONBOOT=yes - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Disk performance in phoronix
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 21:24 -0500, T. Howell-Cintron wrote: T. Howell-Cintron wrote: I'm stunned by the results and though I'm no guru I suspect SELinux might have something to do with it. What can be done to achieve better - hopefully comparable - performance with Fedora? It's also troubling that the disk I/O, computational performance, and more seem to be slower as new releases are made available. They benchmarked F7 through F10 and the different was sometimes dramatic. We call that progress? -- Tom As far as I understand, the main problem with Phoronix's test suite is that it doesn't use native packages. Sure, Phoronix' copy of bzip2/apache/etc might be slower on Fedora 11 compared to Fedora 8, but it more-or-less says -zero- about the actual performance difference between the -native- versions of bzip2/apache/etc on Fedora 8 and Fedora 11. I'm not saying that Phoronix is wrong - I am saying that his testing methodology is invalid. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: LVM over MD is broken. Switch back to F10?
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 18:15 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: You'll also want to watch out for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506189 Good times! Uggg... - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
F11: LVM over MD is broken. Switch back to F10?
Hello all, While not strictly a -devel issue, the advise I'm seeking does raise an interesting issue. I've got a number of workstations running a combination of F9 and F10. All are using LVM over software RAID5. (DM) I've done a test upgrade on the workstation (including a partial migration of some of the partitions to ext4), and hit bug #505433 [1] (Kernel hangs when it fails to detect a valid partition tables on the software RAID). My problem is rather simple: The initial test workstation is currently DOA. If I revert back to F10, I will no longer be able to help the kernel guys debug this issue; on the other hand, I've begging to miss my main workstation. (Typing this on my F11 based laptop...) Far worse, the F9 workstations are reaching EOL, and I cannot install F10 on them due to known anaconda issue (That was fixed during the F11 devel cycle) so in short, I'm in deep ... ... Suggestions? - Gilboa [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505433 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F11: LVM over MD is broken. Switch back to F10?
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:34 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: Gilboa Davara wrote: Far worse, the F9 workstations are reaching EOL, and I cannot install F10 on them due to known anaconda issue (That was fixed during the F11 devel cycle) so in short, I'm in deep ... Can you upgrade them by Yum? That should avoid any Anaconda bugs. Björn Persson Forgot about it. Guess that if I cannot use F11, I'll try my luck with the semi-supported F9 to F10 via yum route. Thanks, Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 21:05 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Too bad their hardware benchmarks do not match the development news, and too bad they also feel it necessary to continuously warn about alleged unsuitability of the Free drivers for production use (when in reality they just work as long as you pick hardware which is already fully supported, but their hardware section makes no effort to recommend such hardware). I don't care how they compare with proprietary modules. I want comparisons between the different Free drivers and recommendations for the best hardware when benchmarked using Free drivers. They have no such benchmark. I disagree, they should not be promoting proprietary software, they should focus on graphics in Free Software, not with proprietary drivers on an otherwise Free system. But even if they did 2 sections about hardware, one with proprietary drivers and one with Free drivers, comparing what is comparable (i.e., at this stage, in most cases, proprietary vs. proprietary and Free vs. Free), that'd already be an improvement. Of course, if the Free drivers manage to beat the proprietary ones for comparably-priced hardware, that's always worth reporting! But they shouldn't be required to to even get mentioned at all in the benchmarks. In your view, once a site compares the performance of OSS drivers vs. proprietary drivers their results are no longer valid. What about SAMBA performance? Should we ignore sites that compare Linux vs. Windows 2K8 file servers? Should we ban sites that compare VMWare and KVM? Where does it stop? - Gilboa P.S. One correction: Phoronix ran a large number of OSS vs. OSS drivers benchmarks. As far as I know, there are the only ones to do it. (Has anyone @Fedora ever published a Fedora 8 vs Fedora 10 on i810 benchmark?) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 21:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 05:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: and no, glxgears is not a benchmark! Indeed, glxgears really sucks as as a benchmark, Phoronix's benchmark suite (as imperfect as it is) is definitely more useful. I keep meaning to file a feature request for glxgears - remove the FPS display...if it's not a benchmark, let's not make it look like one. While not an effective benchmark, but a good tool to check that DRI/DRM is working. Grated, it would have been nice if out-of-the-box OSS OpenGL benchmarking and testing tools (outside the closed benchmarks and game demos used by the Phoronix suite), but for now, we are more-or-less limited to glxgears... - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 12:20 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Gilboa Davaragilb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 21:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 05:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: and no, glxgears is not a benchmark! Indeed, glxgears really sucks as as a benchmark, Phoronix's benchmark suite (as imperfect as it is) is definitely more useful. I keep meaning to file a feature request for glxgears - remove the FPS display...if it's not a benchmark, let's not make it look like one. While not an effective benchmark, but a good tool to check that DRI/DRM is working. Grated, it would have been nice if out-of-the-box OSS OpenGL benchmarking and testing tools (outside the closed benchmarks and game demos used by the Phoronix suite), but for now, we are more-or-less limited to glxgears... There are alot of open source games[1} that are useable to for benchmarking. glxgears is NOT a benchmark. If you don't have anything but glxgears than you have NO benchmark. [1]: openarena, nexuiz, ... True, But nexuiz, open arena and the rest of the ioquake / cube are unavailable on most distributions (E.g. EL5) and their sheer size (100's of MBs) makes them far less effective. glxgears, on the other hand is available more-or-less out of the box and requires 50K. As long as you respect the fact that glxgears can -only- be used to verify that your OpenGL stack is more-or-less working as it should, I see no problem in using it. - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: VM questions
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 01:43 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote: I have a dual Xeon 64 bit processor, which I don't believe has hardware VM support. Can I still run a VM machine in F11 with XP as guest OS? Which F11 disk should I download? Could you post the output of $ cat /proc/cpuinfo? In theory, if your CPU doesn't support Intel-VT, you could either use plain qemu w/ qemu-kqemu (You'll have use the rpmfusion repository for the kqemu kernel driver - without it qemu is more-or-less brain dead) or revert to non-Fedora shipped VM solutions such as Virtualbox (good for desktop virtualization; works OK on Fedora) and VMWare server (Bloated, Bit*h to setup on Fedora [they only support RHEL], very problematic web interface, good for server virtualization) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 15:24 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Eric Springer wrote: Especially considering how many people will use these benchmarks to make conclusions about Fedora, we should make sure it presents as best as it can. I think we should rather do an informative press campaign on the lines of Why Phoronix benchmarks are utter bullsh*t. Kevin Kofler Kevin, I must admit that I didn't expect such childish reaction from someone like you. You don't like Phoronix' benchmark? Why? What should they have done differently? Have you ever contacted Phoronix (E.g. Using their forums) and tried to resolve these issues? Did they refuse? Yes, encoding MP3 is rotten way to benchmark a file system, but some of these benchmarks -do- show anomalies, and simply ignoring these anomalies while FUD'ing the messenger (Phoronix in this case) is childish. Might I remind everyone here that Phoronix was the first to offer a comprehensive benchmark suite to the OSS world. (Google back to 5-10 years ago and you'll see an assortment of half-backed benchmarks that never really worked... and no, glxgears is not a benchmark!) Instead of throwing mud at Phoronix, we (as in, all the people that have grievances with this benchmark suite) -should- concentrate in trying help Phoronix improve their benchmarking suite. - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 04:33 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 15:24 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Eric Springer wrote: Especially considering how many people will use these benchmarks to make conclusions about Fedora, we should make sure it presents as best as it can. I think we should rather do an informative press campaign on the lines of Why Phoronix benchmarks are utter bullsh*t. Kevin Kofler Kevin, I must admit that I didn't expect such childish reaction from someone like you. You don't like Phoronix' benchmark? Why? What should they have done differently? Have you ever contacted Phoronix (E.g. Using their forums) and tried to resolve these issues? Did they refuse? Yes, encoding MP3 is rotten way to benchmark a file system, but some of these benchmarks -do- show anomalies, and simply ignoring these anomalies while FUD'ing the messenger (Phoronix in this case) is childish. Might I remind everyone here that Phoronix was the first to offer a comprehensive benchmark suite to the OSS world. (Google back to 5-10 years ago and you'll see an assortment of half-backed benchmarks that never really worked... and no, glxgears is not a benchmark!) Instead of throwing mud at Phoronix, we (as in, all the people that have grievances with this benchmark suite) -should- concentrate in trying help Phoronix improve their benchmarking suite. - Gilboa I apologize in advance, for the overly harsh language. (Not specifically directed at you, Kevin). - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 19:08 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 04:33 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: Kevin, I must admit that I didn't expect such childish reaction from someone like you. BTW, I suspect that Kevin's position has a lot to do with the response KDE 4 got in the press...which is understandable. Being a KDE(-redhat) user, I'm well aware of Kevin's contribution to Fedora / KDE / etc, hence my (somewhat harsh) reaction to his OP. - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 9.04 vs. Fedora 11 Performance
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 19:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 04:33 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: You don't like Phoronix' benchmark? Why? What should they have done differently? Have you ever contacted Phoronix (E.g. Using their forums) and tried to resolve these issues? Did they refuse? They should use distribution-compiled binaries - or at least record and explain the fact that they don't, and check whether there are significant differences between the compiled binaries they use on each distro. Up until 30 minutes ago, I was unaware of the fact that they use test-suite compiled binaries. Though I'd imagine that in Phoronix' view, having (far) different compile options in the distribution supplied binaries might generate invalid results. (Due to missing features, non-standard optimization, etc) Of-cause, the best solution would have been to test -both- versions - read: Phoronix-compiled binaries next to distribution supplied binaries This should generate far cleaner (and far more interesting) results. And when they observe anomalies, they should try and do some kind of research to confirm the result and figure out _why_, not just note the fact of the anomaly. I fear that you're expecting far too much from popular website. I'd rather see an open dialog between Phoronix and the different distributions an in effort to gain usable test-data out of their benchmarks. Multiple people have pointed this out to them in the past, but they haven't really made a concerted effort to change. Has anyone attempted to start an open dialog with them using their forums? [1]. At least the past, Micheal (Phoronix founder) was very responsive. I have a kind of love/hate relationship with Phoronix - they're a popular site and do some really good stuff, but they also make a lot of frustratingly lazy mistakes and shorthand contractions in many articles. I believe we should praise Phoronix for their work, even if we do not agree with their methodology. As I said in my previous post, Phoronix completely changed the landscape of OSS websites and OSS benchmarking. - Gilboa [1] http://www.phoronix.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=49 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Semi-OT] OSS audio vs ALSA
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 14:02 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:42:20 +0100 Alan Cox wrote: Anyway if you have a volume/quality difference its either in the megaton of desktop plumbing or a funny in one of the AC97 or HDMI codec drivers and in each case simply means you have some specific local configuration thats either broken somewhere or an obscure system config specific kernel bug. I don't know about that, I think there is something subtle going on with fedora's configuration or build or something. I personally don't care that much about sound quality, but when I have installed other distros on the same hardware (other distros that also use alsa like ubuntu and suse), I've noticed that the sound was better on them. Playing a silly game like neverputt, the sound will almost always have a bit of crackling on fedora that does not show up in the others. Must likely a pulseaudio issue. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Detection of 16GB RAM
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 20:13 +0530, Karthik Balaguru wrote: Hi, Does X86_64 FC2(Fedora Core2) detect 16GB RAM ? Thx in advans, Karthik Balaguru If the hardware supports it, yes. Never the less, I'd advise against using FC2 directly. As I see, you have one of 4 options: 1. Install FC2. -Huge- security risk. 2. Install RHEL/CentOS 4.7. Both should be close enough (kernel/libc/etc) to FC2 making them more-or-less compatible with your software. I wouldn't use to browse the Internet. 3. Install RHEL/CentOS 5.3 / Fedora 10 (w/ chroot). Put an image of FC2 in one of the directories (/mnt/FC2) and chroot into it. You may need to disable SELinux on the host machine. 4. Install Fedora 10. (w/ KVM capable hardware). Use KVM and run FC2 on virtual machine with a -lot- of memory. Assuming that you are using a rather new multi-core server and assuming that your application isn't I/O intensive (E.g. DB server) you should get near-host performance while keeping your server secure (and up-to-date). - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT - advice on async I/O pls
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:29 +0100, T. Horsnell wrote: Apologies for this off-topic post. Pls point me elsewhere if there's a more suitable list. I'm using sendto and rcvfrom to handle a UDP connection to a remote host. I send a msg using sendto, and then wait for a reply using recvfrom, but I would like to be able to rapidly timeout the rcvfrom if the remote host is down. The async I/O set of commands aio_* offer what looks like the perfect solution, but they require that I use aio_read and aio_write (equivalent to read(2) and write(2) ) rather than sendto/recvfrom. I'd rather not sit in a loop waiting for a reply with non-blocking I/O enabled. I'd much prefer to use blocking I/O and have the recvfom come back to me either when the input has completed, or it has timed out. Any suggestions how I might achieve this? Cheers, Terry Have you considered using non-blocking send/recv and then use select to wait on the socket(s)? It's a far cheaper (performance wise) solution. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: BOINC
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 15:43 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 10:56 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: Guys, I've discovered that, for some strange reason, you *must* have elevated privileges to run / configure BOINC when it's installed via the F10 repositories. I'm running boinc on an unprivileged user. That's interesting. Did you install via YUM, or did you download the tarball? Yum version. Did you configure the boinc password? Network access? Nope. I've got BOINC running on my workstation and am trying to connect on the same machine. As far as I remember, in the default configuration, only the user 'boinc' can connect to the service. (I maybe wrong, though) In general you need to add --redirectio --allow_remote_gui_rpc to /etc/syscnofig/boinc-client (latest version only!), and save your clear-text password in $BOINC_HOME/gui_rpc_auth.cfg. But, I'm running it on the same machine. As far as I know, if you're user X, and boinc runs as user Y, you can either drop the security (chmod +s, etc) or use networking. I'd suggest you file a bug report about the default configuration. The maintainer is -very- forthcoming. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: BOINC
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 10:56 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: Guys, I've discovered that, for some strange reason, you *must* have elevated privileges to run / configure BOINC when it's installed via the F10 repositories. I'm running boinc on an unprivileged user. I've been trying to get BOINC configured to connect to my accounts ever since I installed the X86_64 version of Fedora 10 several months ago. Today I got a crazy idea and tried running the boincmgr binary as a superuser and to my surprise I was able to connect to the client and configure it, something that I have been trying off and on for the past several months to do without success. Did you configure the boinc password? Network access? In general you need to add --redirectio --allow_remote_gui_rpc to /etc/syscnofig/boinc-client (latest version only!), and save your clear-text password in $BOINC_HOME/gui_rpc_auth.cfg. Since I never had to run it as a superuser when I installed from the tarball off the Boinc.berkeley.edu server, I suspect this is a RedHat/Fedora issue. Can someone explain the rationale behind requiring admin privileges to configure BOINC? Default -Fedora- configuration doesn't accept network connection. The default upstream version does. I managed to work around it by chmod +s all the Boinc binaries, but I shouldn't have to do that! Don't. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Changing host window in KVM
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 18:47 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: If I am running on a VM which is full screen, is there some easy way to change to the other desktops on the host other than dropping the VM back to a window and then using the desktop selector? I've tried several suggested key shortcuts w/o success. In KDE you can use the advanced application / windows option and force-start qemu Windows in a certain desktop. Another option is to use the qemu -vnc command (virtual SVGA over VNC protocol), and use a normal VNC viewer (which is far more configurable.) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: g++ -save-temps mess
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 18:16 -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote: I recently went from FC8 to FC9. Since then commands like g++ -save-temps main1.cc give me .s files with names like main1.tmp.localhost.localdomain.2918.s and don't give me any preprocessed source at all. What is going on? How do I fix it? I'm sure the messy .s file names are useful for people doing really interesting things with file organization. I am not. Wouldn't gcc -E give the post-pre-processor code? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Semi-OT: Profiling 10GbE devices... Help?
Hello all, I'm almost certain that is the not the right place to ask this question, but if RedHat/Fedora's kernel engineers can't help me, I'm truly screwed. I'm are using two Intel 10GbE (ixgbe) cards to passively monitor 10GbE lines (Under RHEL 5.2) either using the in-kernel dev_add_pack interface (built-in ixgbe driver) or using a slightly modified ixgbe driver. (built around Intel's latest ixgbe driver) However, I'm experiencing odd performance issues - namely, once I configure the driver to use MSI-X w/ multi-queue [MQ] (forcing pci=msi) and assign each IRQ to one CPU core (irq cpu affinity), my software requires -10x- more CPU cycles (measured using rdtsc; compared to multiple GbE links and/or w/ MSI-X/MQ disabled) to process each packet, causing massive missed IRQs (rx_missed_errors) induced packet loss. Looking at mpstat I can see the each CPU core is handling a fairly low number of interrupts (200-1000) while spending most of its time in softIRQ. (90%, most likely within my own code) I decided to check newer kernels so I've installed F10 (24C Xeon-MP Intel S7000FC4U) and F9 (16C Opteron DL585G5, *) on two machines, but even with 2.6.27 kernels and I'm experiencing the same performance issues. Given the fact that the same code is used to process packets - no matter what type of links are being used, my first instinct was to look at the CPU cores themselves. (E.g. L1 L2 dcache miss rates; TLB flushes; etc). I tried using oprofile, but I failed to make it work. On one machine (Xeon-MP, F10), oprofile failed to identify the Dunnington CPU (switching to timer mode) and on the other (Barcelona 8354, F9), even though it was configured to report dcache statistics [1,2] opreport returns empty reports. In-order to verify that oprofile indeed works on Opteron machine, I reconfigured oprofile to report CPU usage [3], but even than, oprofile either returns empty results to hard-locks the machine. So: A. Anyone else seeing the same odd behavior once MSI-X/MQ is enabled on Intel's 10G cards? (P.S. MQ cannot be enabled on both machines unless I add pci=msi to the kernel's command line) B. Any idea why oprofile refuses to generate cache statistics and/or what did I do wrong? C. Before I dive into AMD's and Intel's MSR/PMC documentation and spend the next five days trying to decipher which architectural / non-architectural counter needs to set/used and how, do you have any idea how I can access the performance counters without writing the code myself? - Gilboa [1] opcontrol --setup --vmlinux /usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/2.6.27.9-73.fc9.x86_64/vmlinux --event=DATA_CACHE_ACCESS:1000:0:1:1 [2] opcontrol --setup --vmlinux /usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/2.6.27.9-73.fc9.x86_64/vmlinux --event=L2_CACHE_MISS:1000:0:1:1 [3] opcontrol --setup --vmlinux /usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/2.6.27.9-73.fc9.x86_64/vmlinux --event=CPU_CLK_UNHALTED:1000:0:1:1 * F10 seems to dislike the DL585G5; Issue already reported against anaconda. (#480638) ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: RAM question for everyone!
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 16:46 +, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Gilboa Davara wrote: Yeah, but this problem can more-or-less be avoided by lowering /proc/sys/vm/swappiness. Sure, that will make the VM more likely to evict pagecache data than anonymous pages when it's trying to free pages. I haven't tested this to any real degree on my desktop boxes (as I don't really suffer too much from this with the setups that I run), does it give a significant benefit for this case? I can imagine it would given that systems where I have seen problems like this have tended to seem a bit cache-heavy, but testing results are always good to hear. Regards, Bryn. To be honest, now-days, I rarely tweak the swappiness value. While it was required on a 32bit machine with 2GB of memory, the default value works just fine on most 64bit workstation (and server) I use these-days. Even on servers with relatively long up times (4 months), I rarely see more than 100-200MB of swap being used. * - Gilboa * Unless something goes horribly wrong (mostly due to admin error), in which case, I'm glad that I had a lot of swap space ready just in case... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RAM question for everyone!
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 15:43 +, Dan Track wrote: I was recently asked a question about how much RAM should there be within a server given that the APP uses 8GB of Memory, should I buy 10Gig of memory and have a small harddrive and no swap space? Would this configuration allow everything in my OS to run from RAM and not from swap? If this is the case then there's no need to ever create swap, is there?!? Your thoughts are appreciated. Thanks Dan Of the top of my head: Memory: If the machine is designed to run a single application and -nothing- else, 9-10GB will do. However, if you plan to have, say local and remote X, VNC, I'd add ~2GB the mix. Swap: Always setup some kind of swap - at-least 1-2GB. Disk space is cheap, but if you somehow miscalculate the amount of memory your application needs - even by 5% - the lack of available memory will trigger the OOM killer. (Which tends to produce problematic results... such as killing sshd and getties [happened to me once...]) In general, I usually setup 2-4GB swap on desktops, and 8GB of workstations/servers. E.g. I'm typing this on a dual Xeon workstation with 8GB of memory and 8GB of swap and less than 71M of swap is being used. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RAM question for everyone!
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 16:26 +, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Alan Evans wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Dan Track dan.tr...@gmail.com wrote: I was recently asked a question about how much RAM should there be within a server given that the APP uses 8GB of Memory, should I buy 10Gig of memory and have a small harddrive and no swap space? Would this configuration allow everything in my OS to run from RAM and not from swap? If this is the case then there's no need to ever create swap, is there?!? Your thoughts are appreciated. This question, along with other recent discussion about swap, leads me to ask a question in response: Why is everyone so concerned about how to get away without swap? Hard drives are cheap. Why does your server with potentially 10GB (!!!) of RAM have a hard drive so small that you can't sacrifice a few GB for swap? I think many people aren't as concerned about sacrificing a bit of disk space as much as they are concerned about the performance impacts when the system begins to use the swap, especially for desktops. Linux will attempt to move old data that has not been referenced for some time out to the swap device even when there is relatively little pressure to do so. This is generally a win since we are better utilising the physical memory of the system (storing more frequently/recently used data in it) but it may lead to nasty delays when the swapped-out data is needed again. This is more of a problem today than 15 years ago because of the ever widening gulf between main memory speeds and (HD based) mass storage speeds (or at least, seek times). As an example, try opening something in OpenOffice and then minimizing it for a week. Even if the box was fairly quiet for that period, chances are that much of OO's address space is now swapped out. Clicking the window in the task bar will cause the system to churn for a few seconds or more before the app returns to a usable state. Regards, Bryn. Yeah, but this problem can more-or-less be avoided by lowering /proc/sys/vm/swappiness. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Call for vote: Nautilus use Browser view for fedora 11
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 21:56 +0100, Mark wrote: Hey, The question is simple: Lets use the browser view of nautilus in the next fedora release. Motivation: A new window for each folder that i open is so painful!! 1. My taskbar fills up in notime each time i open a new folder 2. New features of nautilus: tabbed browsing! completely useless if your not using the browser mode 3. Tabbed browsing (files/folders or web) is hot these days 4. It feels so.. old (windows 95? 3.11?) just to name a few Cross posted to the devel list because it's for the next fedora version (currently in development thus the devel list) Bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477052 (wow! i couldn't find an existing one for this! made one myself) So, lets vote: +1 from me I hope this can be done for Fedora 11 (it's just changing one gconf value). All vote plz Mark. I'm not a GNOME user - but my wife and a number of my co-workers are - and all of them are using GNOME in non-spatial mode. (Browser mode) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 10:18 -0500, max bianco wrote: I suppose working toward a linux binary standard that would actually make it possible for 3rd parties to build programs that install and run as expected on different distributions is too much to ask... As, obviously, is asking for interface stability for more than a week at a time so 3rd parties could specifically target the distribution's nonstandard quirks in a useful way. ... I'd accept that - but there's a problem with your argument: VMWare already uses a rather wildly accepted binary distribution system (RPM). Problem is - their RPM's are poorly built... - Gilboa How do you define poorly built? I don't know much about rpm's beyond how to install and uninstall them. Can someone tell me what makes for a poorly built rpm? -- Any fool can know. The point is to understand. -Albert Einstein Mostly missing Requires and the use of statically linked GTK libs. You can actually install the RPM (one new[er] Fedoras) but have a non/semi-working installation due to missing libraries. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Controller a specified set of services, as user, using PolicyKit
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 17:20 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: Hello all, My users are currently using sudo to start a certain pre-defined list of services. However, as sudo requires an terminal (even if no password is required in /etc/sudoers) - I'm looking for cleaner, GUI solution. Seems to me that adding the required rules to PolicyKit might prove to be the best solution. (According to Google, Ubuntu's gksu might collide with PolicyKit) Can anyone please point me at the right direction? (Read: How do I write a PolicyKit rule that enables a certain user-group to start/stop a certain service.) - Gilboa P.S. I want the user to be able to start/stop services from a script - so giving them access to S-C-S (as user) isn't an option. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 13:18 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: Gilboa Davara wrote: So I don't understand. Are you saying that VMware has no right to impose some boundaries on what they will and will not support? Are they bound by some contract to provide answers/solutions to a free product for every flavor of Linux used as host OS? Or, are you saying that their only obligation is to support every version of Fedora for free? And if so, what make Fedora so special to get support? Right? They have a right to do what-ever they want. I never argued otherwise. Question is - should Fedora go along with their decision, and support their semi-broken RPMs, half-working SELinux support, missing upstream kernel support and their decision to keep certain features Windows-only. Fedora, support?? What's that? . Arghh. FWIW my vote is a (big) no - Fedora's resources will be better spent on qemu-kvm and virt-*. I suppose working toward a linux binary standard that would actually make it possible for 3rd parties to build programs that install and run as expected on different distributions is too much to ask... As, obviously, is asking for interface stability for more than a week at a time so 3rd parties could specifically target the distribution's nonstandard quirks in a useful way. ... I'd accept that - but there's a problem with your argument: VMWare already uses a rather wildly accepted binary distribution system (RPM). Problem is - their RPM's are poorly built... - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 08:32 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Gilboa Davara wrote: Sorry to snip so muchbut one thing struck me You said: Last and not least, the OP (at least the message I saw) was talking about VMWare Server 2.x which had a known issue with PAM [1] and SELinux (...) that didn't really seem to get VMWare's attention. When I tried getting support (mind you, at the time we were thinking about spending a lot of money on ESX - for me the VMWare Server 2.x deployment was just testing purpose) - I got the ever-annoying-company line - we only support RHEL and SLES I wonder how you could find their response annoying.. They state very clearly in their documentation what 32-bit and 64-bit host Linux OS they support. They also state very clearly what 32-bit and 64-bit host Windows OS they support. They also state the requirements for guest OS as well as what levels of the various browsers are supported. So I don't understand. Are you saying that VMware has no right to impose some boundaries on what they will and will not support? Are they bound by some contract to provide answers/solutions to a free product for every flavor of Linux used as host OS? Or, are you saying that their only obligation is to support every version of Fedora for free? And if so, what make Fedora so special to get support? Right? They have a right to do what-ever they want. I never argued otherwise. Question is - should Fedora go along with their decision, and support their semi-broken RPMs, half-working SELinux support, missing upstream kernel support and their decision to keep certain features Windows-only. FWIW my vote is a (big) no - Fedora's resources will be better spent on qemu-kvm and virt-*. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Right? They have a right to do what-ever they want. I never argued otherwise. Then you should not be getting annoyed. Maybe disappointed...but certainly not annoyed. Question is - should Fedora go along with their decision, and support their semi-broken RPMs, half-working SELinux support, missing upstream kernel support and their decision to keep certain features Windows-only. FWIW my vote is a (big) no - Fedora's resources will be better spent on qemu-kvm and virt-*. What do you mean should Fedora go along with their decision? Fedora isn't supporting anything with regards to VMware and VMware isn't giving any consideration to Fedora. I think you have created a relationship where none exists. Sight. The OP talked about reporting SELinux issues w/ VMWare to bugzilla.redhat.com. This constitute spending Fedora resources (read: Fedora's SELinux maintainer's time) on supporting VMWare's decision. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 13:26 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2008 12:08:44 Gilboa Davara wrote: To be honest, AFAIR VMWare Server 1.0.x, beyond being EOL, doesn't support kernels = 2.6.26 - even with the latest any-to-any patch. Though, AFAIK, it didn't have SELinux problem under both F8 and F9. On the other side VMWare Server 2.x hass replaced the GTK console application with a super-complex web-client which, coupled with VMWare's known tendency to release half-broken RPMs, makes it an SELinux accident waiting to happen... Let me be precise. I have VMWare server running right now on this laptop on which I'm typing this message. In 'About' it says it is version 1.0.7 build-108231; my running kernel is - # uname -r 2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686 the patch I'm using to make it work is called vmware-update-2.6.27-5.5.7-2 which I found using Google - it has survived several kernel upgrades and supercedes the any-any patches A. I was unaware of the vmware-update-2.6.27-5.5.7-2 patch. Last time I checked (~1.5 months ago) only the any-to-any patch was available and it didn't support kernels = 2.6.26. B. Much like the any-to-any patch, (and at least according to google) this patch is unofficial. C. As I previously said, -officially-, VMWare doesn't support Fedora. [1] D. As you recall, the OP asked if can send a BZ about his SELinux problems in bugzilla.redhat.com - my original answer was rather simple: VMware is proprietary and closed source, and doesn't officially support Fedora. [1] VMWare server, user's guide, page 26. I haven't bothered to install VMWare Server 2.X because at the moment, I have no need for it, and as you point out, it's a bit more complicated. I haven't tried any of the linux-land alternatives yet for the same reason. My approach may work for some, if not for all, but, to simply make the blanket statement that VMWare server is broken for F10 or for Kernels 2.6.26 is wrong. Let me rephrase, the official VMWare 1.0.x release doesn't support F10. Happy? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote: I'll send what I find with F10 and the latest Server 2.0 build this weekend... Well, as you understand, my experience with ...Well, as you understand, my experience with VMWare Server 2.0 was far from satisfying. Hopefully (for you) YMWV. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 09:47 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christopher A. Williams wrote: I'm just curious - Has anyone made any progress on figuring out why VMware Server 2.0 does NOT run on F10 unless selinux is disabled? Even running selinux in permissive mode causes VMware Server fits. This has been this way at least since VMware Server 1.x running on F8. I know because I can recall having to fully disable selinux on my VMware Server systems for at least that long. It never seems to have been fixed to this day, and that's a long time for such an issue to exist. Is anyone working to resolve it? Cheers, Chris VMWare's SELinux problem is caused by their shady RPM's and have nothing to do with F9/F10. Officially, VMWare only supports RHEL 4.x and 5.x. Fedora is not supported and their SELinux support (built into their RPMs) was designed to support RHEL. In short, unless RHEL starts supporting distributions beyond EPEL and SLES, there's nothing to be done in the Fedora side of things. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ethernet Device.
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 11:00 -0700, Reg Clemens wrote: My motherboard has a 100MHz Ethernet device built in, but my router and other machines are all 1GHz. I bought an Intel PLWA839 1GHz Ethernet Card to get the higher transfer rates between this machine and the rest. You're talking about 100Mbps (AKA Fast-Ethernet or 100 Mega-bit-per-second) and 1Gbps (AKA Giga-Ethernet or Giga-bit-per-second) On booting the system up on f9 the device shows as eth1. HOWEVER, when booting up fc6 (there are multiple OS on multiple partitions of the disk) it shows as: __tmp438149240 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1B:21:2D:30:D8 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Now thats an ugly name. Any way to get it to use eth1 here too? I assume that it is just that some info is missing in a table somewhere. Please post the contents of /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts $ ls -l /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts | grep ifcfg ... and the contents of ifcfg-*tmp* $ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*tmp* - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10, VMware Server 2.0, and selinux
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 11:39 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2008 11:07:53 Gilboa Davara wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 09:47 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christopher A. Williams wrote: I'm just curious - Has anyone made any progress on figuring out why VMware Server 2.0 does NOT run on F10 unless selinux is disabled? Even running selinux in permissive mode causes VMware Server fits. This has been this way at least since VMware Server 1.x running on F8. I know because I can recall having to fully disable selinux on my VMware Server systems for at least that long. It never seems to have been fixed to this day, and that's a long time for such an issue to exist. Is anyone working to resolve it? Cheers, Chris VMWare's SELinux problem is caused by their shady RPM's and have nothing to do with F9/F10. Officially, VMWare only supports RHEL 4.x and 5.x. Fedora is not supported and their SELinux support (built into their RPMs) was designed to support RHEL. In short, unless RHEL starts supporting distributions beyond EPEL and SLES, there's nothing to be done in the Fedora side of things. - Gilboa I happen to have VMWare Server 1.07 running at this very moment. Is this a Ver 2 problem? -- To be honest, AFAIR VMWare Server 1.0.x, beyond being EOL, doesn't support kernels = 2.6.26 - even with the latest any-to-any patch. Though, AFAIK, it didn't have SELinux problem under both F8 and F9. On the other side VMWare Server 2.x hass replaced the GTK console application with a super-complex web-client which, coupled with VMWare's known tendency to release half-broken RPMs, makes it an SELinux accident waiting to happen... Either way, given the nature of VMWare Server (closed source, proprietary RPM's, out-of-tree kernel drivers) - there's nothing Fedora can (or should) do about it. On the up side, if you have semi-new hardware (w/ Intel VT or AMD SVN), qemu-kvm is a very good OSS alternative. (I recently migrated all my VMWare Server 1.0.x VM's to qemu-kvm [manually - I have yet to use virt-manager] and I'm very happy with it) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: XkbOptions in xorg.conf being ignored (F10)
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 21:40 -0800, Dean S. Messing wrote: I'm trying to get an xorg.conf to work in F10. One of the stanzas that was created by livna-config-display (yes, I'm using the nasty closed-source nvidia driver :-) is: # Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display snip Section InputDevice # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105+inet Option XkbLayout us Option XkbOptions ctrl:swapcaps # == added by me EndSection The last line was added by me. For some reason X, which I start with startx, is ignoring the XkbOptions. I think this has something to do with the new evdev driver stuff but I don't understand it well enough to know how to proceed. Would someone tell me the fix? Or tell me what to provide for help. Thanks. Dean. Known issue. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473802 - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Folderview doesn't work with nvidia. Was prevent people from making mistakes?
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why are the developers writing software for hardware that doesn't have a working driver ? Does that sound production ready ? And it isn't just that folderview runs slow. In KDE4.1.3, it totally freezes my UI. ... Again, is this a PRODUCTION READY strategy ? ... Leaving the end user screwed. ... Yeah, but Fedora is responsible for shipping PRODUCTION READY stuff. And if folderview doesn't work with nvidia hardware, I'd hardly call that PRODUCTION READY. If you bothered to search the nVidia forums instead of just screaming like a 3 y/o that had is candy taken from him, you'd known that is a known regression in the nVidia drivers and the can more-or-less solved by passing exactly two parameters to nvidia-settings. I coule have take the time to post the actual parameters (which I use, on all my F9 and F10 machines), but given your rude behaviour, I see little reason to help you. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OfficeJet 6200 Series Scanning and Faxing on F10
On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 08:46 -0700, Christopher A. Williams wrote: On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 17:19 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 10:51 -0700, Christopher A. Williams wrote: Next, I'd like to be able to use the fax features. I never tried this in F9 - I just assumed it would work since it found the fax features via the printer setup automatically. But in F10 this also seems to be non-existent. Can someone point me to the relevant packages or magic incantation to make this stuff work? I'm using OfficeJet J5783 on F9 and it works just fine. Two questions. A. Scanner: Did you install libsane-hpaio package? Yes I did. This wasn't all that was needed though. It turns out that the same hplip driver package I installed to get SANE to recognize the scanner also _does_ enable Fax support! For some reason (and to my surprise), the HP Fax driver didn't show up as an option with the printer configuration utility (system-config-printer) until _after_ I rebooted - which I did for something completely unrelated. B. Fax: Did you try using the HP Fax driver? (Within the system-config-printer) After it showed up - yes I did! Looks like everything is working now. So, the final solution: 1) Install all of the HP oriented SANE tools (libsane-hpaio, etc.) 2) Install the hplip package 3) Reboot (??? Don't know why I should have to, but it worked...) 4) Configure printer and fax as normal Cheers, Chris Good to hear the everything is working now. Though, when I connect my HP all-in-one printer, everything more-or-less worked out the box. No reboot was required... I wonder if it's a udev bug? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OfficeJet 6200 Series Scanning and Faxing on F10
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 08:52 -0700, Christopher A. Williams wrote: On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 16:33 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: So, the final solution: 1) Install all of the HP oriented SANE tools (libsane-hpaio, etc.) 2) Install the hplip package 3) Reboot (??? Don't know why I should have to, but it worked...) 4) Configure printer and fax as normal Cheers, Chris Good to hear the everything is working now. Though, when I connect my HP all-in-one printer, everything more-or-less worked out the box. No reboot was required... I wonder if it's a udev bug? Perhaps. It's odd that the scanner was recognized immediately after installing hplip, but the HP Fax drivers didn't show up until after I rebooted. Strange... I'd file a bug report about it. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OfficeJet 6200 Series Scanning and Faxing on F10
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 10:51 -0700, Christopher A. Williams wrote: I have F10 running and reasonably well tuned now. ...But I'm having trouble figuring out how to get my HP OfficeJet 6210xi all-in-one working correctly. This was pretty straight forward in F9, but has me scratching my head with F10. So far, all I can do is print to it. No scanning, no faxing. I loaded the xsane libraries for HP OfficeJet printers, but when I launch XSane (or try to use it via Gimp), it comes back that it can not find any scanners. Help!!! I need to scan receipts for expense reports, so this is critical for me. Next, I'd like to be able to use the fax features. I never tried this in F9 - I just assumed it would work since it found the fax features via the printer setup automatically. But in F10 this also seems to be non-existent. Can someone point me to the relevant packages or magic incantation to make this stuff work? Cheers, Chris I'm using OfficeJet J5783 on F9 and it works just fine. Two questions. A. Scanner: Did you install libsane-hpaio package? B. Fax: Did you try using the HP Fax driver? (Within the system-config-printer) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Custom gdm theme
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 18:14 +, Iarly Selbir wrote: Thanks for you reply Gilboa, so... don't there's another way to do it? Thanks again. Reggards, -- iarly Selbir ( Ski0s ) No as far as I know... Sorry. Hopefully themed GDM will land in F11. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel Timeslice
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 14:45 -0500, Steve West wrote: Steve West wrote: I am running Fedora 9 x86 64 bit. What is the kernel timetick per thread? How many threads per second does the kernel run? Probably not quite what you are asking but here goes: http://kerneltrap.org/node/464 run for a few seconds: $ vmstat 1 look at system|in = interrupts per second. this is approximately the interupts per second or timer Hz value. from the kernel config parameter HZ_1000 etc: getconf CLK_TCK DaveT. Is there ay way to set the ticks without rebuilding the kernel? Perhaps if you explained what you are trying to achieve people might be able to help you get there. poc I have an application/service that has 1000 or so threads. Most of these are TCPIP socket accept and connect. I want to be able to run all the threads in a second or so to achieve a reasonable throughput. I would like the kernel to run 1000 threads per second. Right now I think it is set for 100 ticks per second in f9 x86 64bit. Steve Having you considered using a far smaller number of threads and select/poll to wait on the sockets instead of allocating thread-per-client. In my experience, unless your server code is I/O bound (in which case, you can always use asyncio and/or I/O worker threads), a single thread can max out the bandwidth of 1Gbps line and handle 100's of clients. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] intel E5420 + tyan i5100x != virtualization
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 09:43 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: I put together a new MB, with 2 xeon E5420 and tyan i5100x MB. On BIOS (advanced/cpu) 'virtualization technology' says 'enabled'. But, not vmx bit, and ideas? processor : 7 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 23 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5420 @ 2.50GHz stepping: 10 cpu MHz : 2493.747 cache size : 6144 KB physical id : 1 siblings: 4 core id : 3 cpu cores : 4 apicid : 7 initial apicid : 7 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 13 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dtsacpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni tm2ssse3 lahf_lm bogomips: 4987.53 clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 38 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: I'm using a newer i5400XT board with E5335 CPUs on one workstation, and E5440 on the other. $ echo CPU: $(cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Xeon | uniq), CPU VT ext: $(cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -o vmx | wc -l) cores. CPU: model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5335 @ 2.00GHz, CPU VT ext: 8 cores. $ echo CPU: $(cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Xeon | uniq), CPU VT ext: $(cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -o vmx | wc -l) cores. CPU: model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5440 @ 2.83GHz, CPU VT ext: 8 cores. qemu-kvm is working just fine on both. Must likely your BIOS fails to detect/enable the VT extension on your 54xx CPUs. Have you looked for an updated BIOS in tyan.com? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Custom gdm theme
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 17:44 +, Iarly Selbir wrote: Hi all, how are you doing to customize the theme of GDM on the Fedora, I only found solution for change your backuground, but the theme I not know. Thanks in advance. Reggards, AFAIK GDM 2.22 (Fedora 9) and GDM 2.24 (F10) cannot be themed. (Beyond the basic wall-paper and GTK widget styles.) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel Timeslice
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 12:49 -0500, Steve West wrote: Steve West wrote: I am running Fedora 9 x86 64 bit. What is the kernel timetick per thread? How many threads per second does the kernel run? Probably not quite what you are asking but here goes: http://kerneltrap.org/node/464 run for a few seconds: $ vmstat 1 look at system|in = interrupts per second. this is approximately the interupts per second or timer Hz value. from the kernel config parameter HZ_1000 etc: getconf CLK_TCK DaveT. Is there ay way to set the ticks without rebuilding the kernel? Steve Nope. HZ is a static definition. (#define'ed in linux/include/asm-$ARCH/param.h) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE 4.2 - Set Konsole default window size ?
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 15:22 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi All; I'm running Fedora9 KDE 4.2 Every time I start Konsole it comes up with the size that the window was the last time I used it. I would prefer to have a fixed starting size (say 80x25). Is this possible ? Thanks in advance... A. Please don't cross post. (Read: posting the same message to different mailing lists) B. You're using KDE 4.1.2 and not KDE 4.2. (KDE 4.2 has yet to be released.) C. Settings - Edit current profile - Appearance - Font - Test size. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Question about X-Fi cards and FC9 (or FC10 upcoming ...)
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 07:01 -0800, Jim Hayward wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 20:44 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: Don't get the X-Fi. Long story short: Since the introduction of the X-Fi, Creative refused to release the specs of cards, claiming that it will release binary drivers ASAP. Just in case you missed it, hell has frozen over and Creative finally appears to have come to their senses. Creative has released a GPL v2 licensed driver and the source code for their X-Fi cards. Hopefully this will eventually lead to support for the X-Fi cards being added to ALSA. http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblasterthread.id=132288 Regards, Jim H ... They must have heard my rant :) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: will Fedora 10 have KDE 4.1.3?
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 09:13 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: Antonio Olivares wrote: Will Fedora 10 have KDE 4.1.3? Current plan is no, it will be issued as an update shortly after F-10 release. -- Rex Pending free time, would it be possible to push 4.1.3 updates-testing-newkey/F9 before F10-release? It should help clear bugs on a stable(r) platform before the update hits F10... - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: will Fedora 10 have KDE 4.1.3?
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 10:23 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: Gilboa Davara wrote: Pending free time, would it be possible to push 4.1.3 updates-testing-newkey/F9 before F10-release? It'll get pushed when ready, which may (likely) or may not be before F-10. :) -- Rex OK. Thanks for the update. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde desktop icons
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 22:36 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: On Tue November 4 2008 10:19:01 am Linuxguy123 wrote: That is such a lame work around. You need to explain that it doesn't display icons on the desktop as they were in KDE3.5.x. I think this is what the OP is asking for. What's the problem? Right click any menu item and select 'Add to Desktop'; and no, you don't have to add them to a folder view...am I missing something? Are you talking about KDE 4 or KDE 3.5.x? AFAIR KDE 4 menu items can only be added to favorites. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde desktop icons
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 08:43 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: On Wed November 5 2008 5:46:08 am Gilboa Davara wrote: Are you talking about KDE 4 or KDE 3.5.x? AFAIR KDE 4 menu items can only be added to favorites. I'm talking about KDE 4.1.2 but I think it also applied to 4.1.1 I can add menu items anywhere I want, and have done so on multiple machines - to the panel, the desktop, the favorites list, or to one of the folder views -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA Claude Anoop, Thanks for the info. - Gibloa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde desktop icons
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:54 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote: Dear list my question is simple: I use KDE with fedora 9 and I want to enable the icons on the desktop. Now, I have only the backgroup pic. Regards Adel Add widget - Folder view. (Can be configured to view a certain directory with .desktop shortcuts) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde desktop icons
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 11:54 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 18:45 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:54 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote: Dear list my question is simple: I use KDE with fedora 9 and I want to enable the icons on the desktop. Now, I have only the backgroup pic. So do lots of us. Stay tuned for KDE4.2 in January. Hopefully it will implement this. Add widget - Folder view. (Can be configured to view a certain directory with .desktop shortcuts) That is such a lame work around. You need to explain that it doesn't display icons on the desktop as they were in KDE3.5.x. I think this is what the OP is asking for. That's not a workaround, that is _the_ way to display icons on files on a desktop. in KDE 3.5, you can only have ~/Desktop , in KDE 4.x, you can have any folder, esp. consider kioslaves. How is this a regression? *Sigh* You do know that he's a troll, and as such, he'll piggy-back on any thread that looks like a good starting point for yet-another-useless-spam-war on why-he-doesn't-like-KDE-4 and why-Fedora-doesn't-suite-his-needs and/or why-he-rather-switch-to-Ubuntu-but-but-rather-not-as-he-has-nothing-better-to-do, that will fill my junk-mail-box with 200 useless emails. ... But what I don't understand is: Why on Earth are you playing his game? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora / RedHat - The problem
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 23:51 -0500, Brian C. Huffman wrote: Alright I hate Microsoft. I really do. But here I am at 11:45pm on a Sunday night and my wife needs to print a paper for tomorrow. My Fedora cups / samba server worked before and now it doesnt. Was it an update that broke? I dunno. But this is why RedHat / Fedora is never going to take the upper hand. Reboots on both platforms, a bunch of tcpdumps and still no idea. No real user should have to go through this. Sure Ill figure it out. But is that what someone wants when theyve got a paper to print thats due tomorrow? I dont think so. -b Given the fact that I spent most of Friday night, trying to resolve a weird problem parent's XP/SP2 machine that rendered it DOA. Now, I was called to diagnose the problem after my parent's local computer technician told them to reinstall everything from scratch. In the end, it was one of MS' recent patches that screwed something in ZoneAlarm, which in-turn, killed the Internet dialer. I know it had been said 10,000 times before, but Fedora is bleeding edge and changing fast, one shouldn't use it unless he/she understand what bleeding edge means. Oh, Fedora != RedHat. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Question about X-Fi cards and FC9 (or FC10 upcoming ...)
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:56 -0500, William W. Austin wrote: I am thinking about building another machine for fun and games (to replace an aging machine that will replace the older firewall box here). In particular I heard demos this weekend directly comparing the Audigy card that I'm now using with an X-Fi card (specifically the PC Express X-Fi Soundblaster Titanium card). I was really impressed. But trying to read through all of the FC9 documentation (both in the distro and on-line blogs, etc.) I cannot tell if this card should work on FC9. (Or on the upcoming FC10). Does anyone have any information on this one? I have tried the archives, but searching on all of the permutations of X-Fi, XFI, etc. have not helped. Please feel free to answer off-line if you don't want to waste everyone's bandwidth. Thanks -- Hi, Don't get the X-Fi. Long story short: Since the introduction of the X-Fi, Creative refused to release the specs of cards, claiming that it will release binary drivers ASAP. Creative did eventually release beta drivers, but they sucked... badly. A couple of months ago, Creative capitulated and started releasing partial documentation to the OSS project. ALSA is working on a preliminary driver for the X-Fi, which may appear in next major ALSA release. (Notice the may part) In short, don't touch this card with 10 ft pole. Come to think about it - if you're looking for best Creative card, scour ebay for a used Audigy 2ZS. (I did; The so-called Audigy 4 value is nothing more that a el-cheapo software card with numerous limitations..) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ubuntu Ibex offers choice of KDE4.1.2 or KDE3.5.10... and kernel-2.6.27.
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 10:56 -0400, Linuxguy123 wrote: Subject says it all. Fedora developers tell us that they can't give us a choice of KDE version and yet Ubuntu is doing it. Ironically, Fedora says their distribution is more cutting edge and yet Ibex gets kernel 2.6.27 and we are still stuck with 2.6.26. I think the KDE-3.5.10 decision demonstrates that Ubuntu developers are more sensitive to user end needs. I know a bunch of people are going to chime in and say Fedora isn't for you and Its a bleeding edge distribution, etc. I think those are just excuses for a developer community that wants to do it own thing irregardless of what users actually want. Don't shoot me, I'm just the squeaky wheel/messenger. || || | Please don't feed| | the troll.| | Thank you | || || || || || || -- The subject says it all... - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FEDORA net etiquette
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 18:36 -0500, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 20:03:52 +0200, Gilboa Davara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:05 -0400, Chris Snook wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: ... My question: are there rules for the fedora email traffic saying: do not use signatures? No. Proper use of PKI (such as GPG signatures) is worth a few bytes. Anyone who desperately cares about this can choose to receive mail in daily digest format, which saves far more in headers than would be consumed even if everyone on the list used GPG. -- Chris ... All nice and dandy, but it would have been nice if anyone would have been able to give me -one- solid reason why he/she needs to sign his/her messages - when they are being posted in a high-volume public ML. (Geek factor not included) Non-repudiation. Yey. You managed to send a message that looks like it was sent by me. I'm shocked. ... We are talking about Fedora-users, not [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FEDORA net etiquette
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:05 -0400, Chris Snook wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: ... My question: are there rules for the fedora email traffic saying: do not use signatures? No. Proper use of PKI (such as GPG signatures) is worth a few bytes. Anyone who desperately cares about this can choose to receive mail in daily digest format, which saves far more in headers than would be consumed even if everyone on the list used GPG. -- Chris ... All nice and dandy, but it would have been nice if anyone would have been able to give me -one- solid reason why he/she needs to sign his/her messages - when they are being posted in a high-volume public ML. (Geek factor not included) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FEDORA net etiquette
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 18:08 +, g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gilboa Davara wrote: snip ... All nice and dandy, but it would have been nice if anyone would have been able to give me -one- solid reason why he/she needs to sign his/her messages how about because it is a requirement by his and many other colleges and universities thru out world. A. You can always decide to whether to sign a message or not - on a per-message basis. B. With so many free email services, noting forces you to use your primary email account to post ML messages. E.g. My company has an annoying policy the requires all employees to use a huge HTML signature on all outgoing emails - hence, I always use my gmail account to post non-work-related-message. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FEDORA net etiquette
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:39 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote: I would also point out one other important reason. Regressions. I've personally helped trouble shoot several significant problems in MTA's and filtering systems (MailScanner) when problems have cropped up where my signature didn't verify. Problems resolved down into corruptions in transports which then had to then be fixed. I'm not claiming that PGP has no place in email messages. I'm questioning the value of PGP signed messages in ML messages... As I stated in an earlier message, this has to do with traffic analysis as well as preponderance of evidence issues. That's two good reasons which have been well discussed in various cryptography forums and amongst security professionals for years. I remember having this debate in the PGP forums on USENET some 15 years ago. If you don't agree with it (and many still don't) that fine. I'm still signing and if someone can't handle that, it's their problem. Preponderance of evidence? We are still talking about ML messages, right? I doubt that BigG will be sending his next Halloween message to Fedora-users ML... As for the -rude- can't handle that, it's their problem part, I assume that you'll silently accept the same behavior the next time someone drops a 15K HTML message with containing a picture of his pet in his signature. (Given that fact that your 8K message contains 1826 bytes of actual text...) There's an old Jewish saying that - roughly translated (to English) - goes something like this: Do not do the things that you hate the most to your friends. I'd suggest you keep it mind. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FEDORA net etiquette
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 20:03:52 +0200, Gilboa Davara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:05 -0400, Chris Snook wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: ... My question: are there rules for the fedora email traffic saying: do not use signatures? No. Proper use of PKI (such as GPG signatures) is worth a few bytes. Anyone who desperately cares about this can choose to receive mail in daily digest format, which saves far more in headers than would be consumed even if everyone on the list used GPG. -- Chris ... All nice and dandy, but it would have been nice if anyone would have been able to give me -one- solid reason why he/she needs to sign his/her messages - when they are being posted in a high-volume public ML. (Geek factor not included) Non-repudiation. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE4 Save Session
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 09:07 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: One configuration option in KDE4 is to restore a manually saved desktop session, however there doesn't seem to be a way to actually save the session in the first place. This used to exist in KDE3. Is there something I'm missing or is it a bug? poc Currently no supported. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155341 - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Spontaneous pulseaudio death
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 10:46 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: Hi gang. I've recently been having spontaneous pulseaudio daemon deaths occuring. The daemon just quits. There is a trace of it in /var/log/messages: Oct 20 13:27:45 prophead pulseaudio[9301]: shm.c: shm_open() failed: No such file or directory Oct 20 13:27:45 prophead pulseaudio[9301]: pstream.c: Failed to import memory block. Just curious if anyone else is experiencing this. It may be related to a vpnc issue as it seems to happen after I've had to do a couple of vpnc...vpnc-disconnect cycles, but I can't confirm that as yet. Oh, yeah, this is a fully updated F8 machine with pulseaudio 0.9.8 and vpnc 0.5.1. Yes, I know F8 is old, but I need Xen for a couple of things and F9's dom0 for Xen is a no-go (says so in the release notes and confirmed by actual attempts to use it). Hi, Known issue. Seems that the latest kernel/Alsa + PA push is broken. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462200 - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: resize LVM partition
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 20:37 +0200, David Hláčik wrote: Hello guys, i have removed sda1 partition with Windows , now i have free space on disk There is sda1 - now free space sda2 - /boot sda3 - LVM Now i want to resize sda3 to take free space over sda1. Is this possible? as there is sda2 in way before ... Is the best solution to just create sda1 with LVM and then resize my volume group to sda1 also? Thanks ! David AFAIK you cannot re-size the LVM (can you?) but you can add a second (sda1) physical volume (partition in this case) to an existing LVM. E.g. $ vgextend VolGroupName /dev/sda1 - Gilboa - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LVM resize sanity check
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 11:42 -0400, brian wrote: # umount /var # e2fsck -f /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol04 # resize2fs /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol04 13G # lvreduce -L-6G /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol04 # mount /var # umount /tmp # e2fsck -f /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol03 # lvextend -L+6G /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol03 # resize2fs /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol03 # mount /tmp Does that ring any alarm bells? One huge alarm bell. When you are manually resizing an ext3/LVM combo you risk over reducing the LVM compared to the ext3 FS due to math/1000vs1024 conversion errors. As, such, I over reduce the file-system, resize the LVM and than extend the file-system back to the intended size. E.g. Reduce Home to 14GB: $ e2fsck -f /dev/VolMD/LogHome $ resize2fs /dev/VolMD/LogHome 13G $ lvreduce -L14G /dev/VolMD/LogHome $ resize2fs /dev/VolMD/LogHome $ e2fsck -f /dev/VolMD/LogHome $ echo Done. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Howto use bluetooth in KDE
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 21:17 +0100, Andrea wrote: Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 17:28 +0100, Andrea wrote: Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 10:51 +0100, Andrea wrote: Andrea wrote: beta8.fc9 is to be replaced. (It is severely broken on F9 and no longer maintained by upstream) If you want to test the latest version, enable the update-testing-newkey repository and install the kdebluetooth update. * - Gilboa * yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing-newkey kdebluetooth\* Ok. I've done it. It works, the look seems to be more integrated in KDE. But I can't really find some options like 1) accept or not a file transfer 2) where to same received files. which were available on the previous version. Andrea Andrea, Sadly enough kdebluetooth4 has yet to achieve feature parity with the KDE 3.5.x version. Hopefully, much like KDE 4.1/4.2 itself, it'll do so in the coming months. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Howto use bluetooth in KDE
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 10:51 +0100, Andrea wrote: Andrea wrote: Hi, I'm trying to send/receive files with my Phone. I've installed kbluetooth, but whenever I run kbluemon I get the following error process 3712: arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect, assertion _dbus_check_is_valid_path (path) failed in file dbus-message.c line 1074. This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library. D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace KCrash: Application 'kbluemon' crashing... I have tried then to install gnome-bluetooth but I can find out how to use it. Does anybody know how to do it? Andrea OK, after a reboot, kbluemon seems to work. Andrea Please note that kdebluetooth 0.9 (KDE 3.5.x) is being phased out in-favor of a KDE 4 version of kdebluetooth. (Currently in updates-testing-newkey) - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Howto use bluetooth in KDE
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 17:28 +0100, Andrea wrote: Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 10:51 +0100, Andrea wrote: Andrea wrote: Please note that kdebluetooth 0.9 (KDE 3.5.x) is being phased out in-favor of a KDE 4 version of kdebluetooth. (Currently in updates-testing-newkey) - Gilboa The one I installed is kdebluetooth-1.0-0.41.beta8.fc9.i386 Is it the correct one? beta8.fc9 is to be replaced. (It is severely broken on F9 and no longer maintained by upstream) If you want to test the latest version, enable the update-testing-newkey repository and install the kdebluetooth update. * - Gilboa * yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing-newkey kdebluetooth\* -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
A couple kvm questions.
Hello all, I thinking about dropping vmware server and replacing it with KVM. (I'm using brand new AMD Opterons and Intel Xeon so kvm_intel and kvm_amd should be supported) I'll be virtualizing Linux (Fedora, RHEL, CentOS), Windows (XP, 2K3, 2K8) and FBSD. I've got a couple of questions: (I've google for most of them but couldn't really find a satisfying answer) A. I already converted my VM's to qemu (using qemu-img) and they are working OK (minus networking). How can I import these qemu raw images into virt-manager? B. I require bridged networking on all my VMs. I already did the manual job (as in creating ifcfg-br? for each ifcfg-eth? and creating the bridge); never the less, what am I missing is: 1. Do you need to create a different tun/tap device node for each VM? 2. Any method to automate the tun/tap device node creation (and ownership) under Fedora? C. Has anyone managed to get widescreen support under qemu/qemu-kvm? - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nvidia 9400gt
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 00:14 -0700, hemal rathod wrote: Hello everyone I have Nvidia 9400 GT graphics card. I installed fedora 7 and nvidia lastest drivers from nvidia.com. But it didnt work. Can u tell me which fedora version support 9400gt? Or How can i install 9400gt driver on fedora? Thanks Hi, As far as I know, only the 9500's are currently supported by the beta [1] nVidia binary driver; I assume that support will be added by the next beta release. Never the less, I'd suggest you post a question in nvnews [2] nVidia Linux support forum about it. P.S. Please don't post in HTML. Thanks. - Gilboa [1] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=120052 [2] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde 4.1 crashes when Composite is enabled in Fedora 10
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 16:33 -0400, slamp slamp wrote: I've just installed kde 4.1, fresh install. When I logged in it brings me back to the login screen. I am guessing it kde/kwin or xorg crashes. When I disable Composite kde works fine. Anyone has this issue? Using nvidia driver below. kmod-nvidia-2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686.PAE-173.14.12-2.fc9 nVidia's 173.xxx drivers have notoriously bad 2D/KDE4 support. The situation has been somewhat improved by the beta release of the 177.xx (177.70) drivers - though they still leak memory like crazy once KDE composition is enabled. In short, at least for now, KDE4 composition is off-limits for nVidia users. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Backup Server RAID Suggestions - Resend
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 09:13 -0700, Mike McMullen wrote: Thank you Gilboa and James! Here's a little more information. Someone gave me the de-branded HP Athlon 64 X2 PC. So I have a free PC I'd like to turn into a NAS server. This doesn't have to be pretty just functional and semi-cheap. Since there isn't room in the PC case for the drives, let alone cooling and power, I figured some external case/RAID storage box might do the trick. This thing doesn't need to be the fastest on the planet just reliable and as inexpensive as possible. I need the money for lenses for the cameras. ;o) I've been looking at enclosures etc at www.pc-pitstop.com that use a port multiplier. These seem reasonable. Anyone know anything about port multipliers? Am I missing something big here? I'm definitely not an expert on raid storage. Thanks! Mike Hello Mike, The enclosures looks OK. I'd get the bigger one and use a -lot- of small(er) drives in RAID6 +hotspare instead of using 5x1TB drives in RAID5. Given the fact that most hardware controllers are limited to RAID5, I'd suggest you use software RAID instead. (Plus, it gives you the option to connect the enclosure to another machine and just boot). One problem though - the enclosure + 2 x eSATA controllers + port replicators is not cheap. (1000$ combined). Seems to me that it'll be far cheaper to replace the case with a huge tower case with a decent (600w+) PSU. (Plus - dumb internal SATA controllers tend to be cheaper than external ones) Oh, get a -good- UPS. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: locking down device names
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two tv cards, and one relies on the sound card for audio. sometimes it is at /dev/dsp and other times it is at /dev/dsp2 How can I lock this down? create /etc/modprobe.conf And add the following lines: (Where snd_driver_name is the name of each sound card driver) alias snd-card-0 snd_driver_name options snd-card-0 index=0 options snd_driver_name index=0 alias snd-card-1 snd_driver_name options snd-card-1 index=1 options snd_driver_name index=1 ... - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: locking down Xorg resolution
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since F7, I have been unable to simply do a graphical boot with my monitor off. Whenever the monitor is off, xorg ignores /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and chooses its own incorrect resolution. How do I lock this down so that I do not need to turn on my monitor before every boot? The solution on such a bad boot is generally to restart X using Ctrl+Alt+Backspace Which driver are you using? In general you can disable EDID check by adding 'Option IgnoreEDID yes' to your driver section. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Backup Server RAID Suggestions - Resend
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 06:35 -0700, Mike McMullen wrote: Hi All, I am trying to build a NAS server based on Fedora 9. I will be using a de-branded HP Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core with 2GB RAM and two 250GB drives mirrored for the OS stuff and a few apps. Depending on your usage case (random/sequential) I'd consider adding additional memory. I would like to add some type of raid storage box to it with about 5 1TB drives using raid 5 unless there is something better. I'd consider switching the 1TB drives with smaller one. IME big drives are (far) less reliable than small ones. I want to use the system for photography work flow and backing up a few Windows systems. My questions are as follows: 1. What is an inexpensive external RAID storage box to go with? If you're talking about 5-8 drives, a big tower case will do. Any particular reason why your rather use an external case? (With an additional power supply?) 2. What is a good inexpensive RAID controller to go with? 3ware has a very good SATA raid controller. Same goes for LSI. 3. S/W RAID vs HW RAID? Which is the most reliable way to go? Hardware RAIDs are easier to setup and maintain, but cannot be transferred from one machine to the other. Expensive hardware RAID controllers add additional battery back cache that can improve the performance and reliability in case of power outage. Software RAIDs are somewhat harder to manage, but can be moved from one machine to the other with no additional effort. Plus, software RAID has build in RAID6 support. (In case you need better reliability.) 4. Are there ways to do full backups of windows boxes and restore a complete bootable drive from the Linux box? Previous versions of Norton Ghost had no problems connecting to my samba shares. 5. What is the largest file system Fedora 9 can support? ext3 is more than enough. (2TB file, 8TB FS) 6. Are there performance hits for large file systems? I'm using 1TB FS without a problem. Thanks so much in advance! Mike In general, I'd consider using ~11x500GB in a software RAID6 and put the OS on the same RAID. (10+1 setup) A CoolerMaster Stacker STC-101 case is more than capable of hosting 11 3.5 drives. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde4 port of katapult
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 02:37 -0200, Armin Moradi wrote: Will there be a port of Katapult for kde4?? AFAIK katapult is no longer being actively developed (a maintenance release was release a couple of months ago). I cannot find the link right now, but AFAIR, the developer claimed that krunner should offer more-or-less the same features - though he might rewrite katapult in the future - basing it on krunnger instead. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Per user tmp?
Hello all, Any idea how I can setup a per-user tmp directory? E.g. USER1 has /tmp - /tmp/USER1, /var/tmp - /var/tmp/USER1. USER2 has /tmp - /tmp/USER2, /var/tmp - /var/tmp/USER2. etc. In short, I want each user to have a private /tmp, and /var/tmp - without having to resort to using virtualized/jailed environment. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
