Re: comparison of gnote to tomboy is confusing.
2009/10/13 Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net: On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 22:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: If you do a yum info on both of these you'll get your answer. I don't.. Running pinfo on both program names produces the same manual pages with the only difference is the name of the command and where you post bugs. If you see other important information tell me what it is. Did you actually read the output of yum info gnote all the way to the bottom? I'd like to draw your attention to the last sentence of the description for gnote, to which I believe Mr Greshko is referring: It is a port of Tomboy to C++ and consumes fewer resources. And there lies the difference... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Looking for some apache config help to block evil spiders
2009/10/10 Steven W. Orr ste...@syslang.net: RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Baiduspider.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^msnbot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NaverBot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Sogou-Test-Spider.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla/4.0.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^T-Mobile Dash.* RewriteRule .* - [F,L] Are you actually missing the [OR] at the end of the 4th and 5th RewriteCond lines, or is that a mispaste... If you are missing the [OR] then you are only matching things that starts with any of the top four matches AND Mozilla/4.0 AND T-Mobile Dash (somewhat mutually exclusive!)... Correct that and try again... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Looking for some apache config help to block evil spiders
2009/10/10 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com: 2009/10/10 Steven W. Orr ste...@syslang.net: RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Baiduspider.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^msnbot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NaverBot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Sogou-Test-Spider.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla/4.0.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^T-Mobile Dash.* RewriteRule .* - [F,L] Are you actually missing the [OR] at the end of the 4th and 5th RewriteCond lines, or is that a mispaste... If you are missing the [OR] then you are only matching things that starts with any of the top four matches AND Mozilla/4.0 AND T-Mobile Dash (somewhat mutually exclusive!)... I found this for a customer today, it's a cracking read and has some great pre-written ways of blocking this kind of thing: http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/fight-blog-spam-with-apache.html -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Looking for some apache config help to block evil spiders
2009/10/10 Steven W. Orr ste...@syslang.net: On 10/10/09 14:37, quoth Steven W. Orr: RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Baiduspider.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^msnbot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NaverBot.* [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Sogou-Test-Spider.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla/4.0.* RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^T-Mobile Dash.* RewriteRule .* - [F,L] The goal is to see the spiders bouncing off. On 10/10/09 14:55, quoth Sharpe, Sam J: Are you actually missing the [OR] at the end of the 4th and 5th RewriteCond lines, or is that a mispaste... Yes, thanks, I missed that, but that isn't the problem. The problem is that I want to be able to see what gets rejected in the log files. Your rule didn't match anything, because there are mutually exclusive options ANDed - that was my point. You can't have a user_agent that starts with Mozilla AND Sogou - it has to be one or the other, so you would have never seen anything in the logs. Without access to ALL your rewrite rules, I can't tell you whether lines such as: 72.30.65.61 - - [10/Oct/2009:14:28:24 --0400] \ [vdom.syslang.net/sid#b7298ed0][rid#b6b488e8/initial] (1) pass through /d1/fn are hits on the match set you posted above, or hits on another rewrite rule, but I don't see any evidence that it's the Spider matching rule that is generating those lines either. You might also try upping RewriteLogLevel to something higher than 1 to see more detail... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: xmessage alternative?
2009/10/9 Steve Blackwell zep...@cfl.rr.com: I'm using xmessage from /etc/profile to put up a message whenever anyone logs in. It works fine but it is butt ugly! Does anyone know of an alternative? Perhaps something that uses a GNOME theme? Zenity It's probably already installed as loads of things use it. Try typing zenity --help -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: computer speed test
2009/10/9 Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru: At the moment it has 512 MB of RAM. I've bought 1 GB. So, it's gonna be 1.25 GB. Should have bought a calculator instead... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: grub.conf options
2009/10/8 James Wilkinson fed...@aprilcottage.co.uk: If the kernel doesn’t understand what to do with a parameter, it ignores it, but it (still) makes it available to the start-up scripts, which may do something with it. A good example of this is rhgb. And this is incredibly useful if you want to do something like customising your install based on options passed the the kernel from PXE Linux. You can parse your kernel options from /proc/cmdline and do some very nice things: [...@samlap ~]$ cat /proc/cmdline ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet usbcore.autosuspend=1 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: bash oom problem
2009/10/4 psmith psm...@fedoraproject.org: hi list, whilst trying to run this bash command for w in {A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z}{A..Z} ;do echo $w;done wl1 Consider that for a second... You are trying to generate a list of all possible combinations of an 8 character word composed of only uppercase letters - that's 26^8 combinations (208 Billion). Each word is 8 bytes long, which I make to be 1670616516608 bytes... or to put it another way, 1.5 TB So, you've got 4 GB of virtual memory and you are trying to fit an 1555GB array into it. Simple mathematics says no. Dumping the arguments before it dies is pointless, because it hasn't even got as far as expanding arguments yet. You need to think of another was to do this and I humbly suggest that Bash should not be high on your list. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fribidi error with abiword on F11
2009/9/30 Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com: 2) Can you show that the libfribidi.so.0 library is found and linked with /usr/lib/libabiword-2.6.so? Run: ldd -r /usr/lib/libabiword-2.6.so|grep frib ldd -r /usr/lib/libabiword-2.6.so|grep frib libfribidi.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libfribidi.so.0 (0x00502000) undefined symbol: fribidi_get_type (/usr/lib/libabiword-2.6.so) As root, things are fine and I get: ldd -r /usr/lib/libabiword-2.6.so|grep frib libfribidi.so.0 = /usr/lib/libfribidi.so.0 (0x06d14000) Not as user, though. How do I track this? M that's interesting. As root it's resolving to a library in /usr/lib but as the user it's resolving to a library in /usr/local/lib (why do you have fribidi libraries in /usr/local/lib?) What's the output of this command as root and as the user? # echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: reading /var/mail
2009/9/30 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com: I want a SIMPLE GUI tool for reading mail in /var/mail. Like for /var/mail/root I don't want a heavy hitter like Evolution or Thunderbird, and mail is not a GUI. I have used Webmin's reader, but I have systems that I do not want to install Webmin on. mutt -f /var/mail/user -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Live USB from Live CD image?
2009/9/30 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: Hi, I saw somewhere a tip how to make LiveUSB when booting from LiveCD image, but now I can't find that reference... I would be really grateful for anyone pointing me in right direction. http://tinyurl.com/yc6ebh3 It basically boils down to: $ livecd-iso-to-disk /dev/live /dev/USBDEVICENAME -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fribidi error with abiword on F11
2009/9/30 Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com: From: Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com M that's interesting. As root it's resolving to a library in /usr/lib but as the user it's resolving to a library in /usr/local/lib (why do you have fribidi libraries in /usr/local/lib?) What's the output of this command as root and as the user? # echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH Aha! Here we go: As root: # echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (nothing) As user: $ echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/local/lib Clearly some setting somewhere which got set: wonder where.It happened after a installing the printer and the associated hp* rpms, btw. Check out .profile, .bash_profile and .bashrc in your home directory. If it's not set there, it'll be in /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: creating a new gnome terminal, running a command when the term starts...
2009/9/28 bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net: Hi. I'm trying to create/invoke a new gnome-terminal, were i start/run a script when the term starts up.. from the gnome-terminal docs, i'm assuming i can accomplish this by using the -x/-e attribute when i fire up gnome-terminal... this doesn't work... others appear to have the same issue... so, when i do: gnome-terminal -x foo I don't know what you are doing, but I don't think it's right. Try this: # echo echo hello /tmp/foo # echo sleep 100 /tmp/foo # chmod 755 /tmp/foo # gnome-terminal -e /tmp/foo On my system, that results in a new gnome-terminal opening, containing the word hello. If that works, then there is something wrong with your script and not gnome-terminal. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sed, awk, or something...help meeeeeeeeeee
2009/9/28 Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu m3fr...@thesandhufamily.ca: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 19:48 +0200, Joerg Bergmann wrote: Probably it's not what you want, but I would prefer writing a 50 lines standard C program for that task... Gah! 'Probably' isn't the right word. More reading and now I've got something along the lines of what I want to do, but it's obviously not going to work: sed '/BB/r file2' file1 This will dump the contents of file2 after each BB line in file1. That's not what I'm after. Is there a way in sed to read in one line at a time from file2 to replace BB from file1 (as I explained earlier)? Yes, but it involves reading the man page for sed - I'm not totally sure you are capable of doing that. I suggest looking at the output of man sed, finding the section about the command r and then reading the next few lines. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sed, awk, or something...help meeeeeeeeeee
2009/9/28 Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu m3fr...@thesandhufamily.ca: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 19:33 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: Yes, but it involves reading the man page for sed - I'm not totally sure you are capable of doing that. I suggest looking at the output of man sed, finding the section about the command r and then reading the next few lines. Oh my word. I can't believe I missed that. So, I've solved my little problem with this: sed '/BB/R file2' file1 Sweet! That alone doesn't fit your original specification: [...@samlap Desktop]$ sed -e '/BB/R file2' file1 AA BB 1 CC DD AA BB 2 CC DD You specified that BB was to be /replaced/ with 1, so you will need to do this: [...@samlap Desktop]$ sed -e '/BB/R file2' -e '/BB/d' file1 AA 1 CC DD AA 2 CC DD -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to install Apache w/ PHP when yum install httpd php fails?
2009/9/28 Kelly Jones kelly.terry.jo...@gmail.com: I did yum install httpd php to install Apache w/ PHP, and created a test page with ?php phpinfo(); ?. When I visit it and view source, I get back ?php phpinfo(); ? instead of my PHP config. /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf says nothing about PHP, so I suspect I did the install wrong. How do I enable PHP support in Apache? More information needed... 0) Does this command return the same on your system? [...@www ~]$ grep Include /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf Include conf.d/*.conf 1) What does /etc/httpd/conf.d/php.conf say? Does it exist? 2) What is the extension of your web page? (is it .php?) 3) Are you definitely viewing it through the Webserver and not locally on disk? -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sed, awk, or something...help meeeeeeeeeee
2009/9/28 Joerg Bergmann em...@jbergmann.de: Am 28.09.2009 21:07, schrieb Sharpe, Sam J: You specified that BB was to be /replaced/ with 1, so you will need to do this: [...@samlap Desktop]$ sed -e '/BB/R file2' -e '/BB/d' file1 This code may fail in case file 2 contains a line with BB only, in that case the replacement will be removed too. Always best to check your statements before you criticise my code. Because of the way sed works, the second -e operates on the original line and not the replaced one, you are wrong and I am (still) correct. [...@samlap Desktop]$ cat file1 AA BB CC DD AA BB CC DD [...@samlap Desktop]$ cat file2 1 BB 3 [...@samlap Desktop]$ sed -e '/BB/R file2' -e '/BB/d' file1 AA 1 CC DD AA BB CC DD If you wanted to be totally correct, you should actually do: $ sed -e '/^BB$/R file2' -e '/^BB$/d' file1 Laterz, Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Personal Experiences w/ HP DV6 laptops and Fedora
2009/9/24 Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com: given the poor support right now for Intel. Why do you say that? I've seen a couple of posts very recently complaining about problems with Intel drivers, but I've been using it for a long long while on: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) And I haven't had any problems... I know of vast numbers of Intel machines where the drivers are absolutely happy, so it would be nice if you quantified your observation =o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?
2009/9/24 Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru: If only I could find Fedora-live-floppy Enjoy this: http://www.thisiscool.com/fcfloppy.htm ... (note: FC5 is far far out of support ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10 -- adding /var/log/messages to daily logrotate
2009/9/23 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com: I just discovered that /var/log/messages is NOT part of the daily logrotate on my FC10 netbook. My drive was full with a 4Gb messages file. Deleted it and now the system is working right again. So I want to add it to the daily rotate. Is there an easy way to set this up? More importantly why is it NOT part of the daily rotate? It has been part of the (weekly) log rotation for as long as I remember. Is your /var/log/secure log rotated correctly? - You should have /etc/cron.daily/logrotate, which runs logrotate daily. - You should have /etc/logrotate.conf which sets some defaults, notably: # rotate log files weekly weekly # keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs rotate 4 - You should then have something like the following script: [...@samlap ~]$ cat /etc/logrotate.d/syslog /var/log/messages /var/log/secure /var/log/maillog /var/log/spooler /var/log/boot.log /var/log/cron { sharedscripts postrotate /bin/kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslogd.pid 2 /dev/null` 2 /dev/null || true endscript } But as I said before, I believe the messages log is on weekly rotation, not daily and depends on cron.daily running... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
2009/9/22 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net: On Tuesday 22 September 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: FYI, when one joins LinkedIn or other social networks you are asked if you want to have it access your address book to send invitations to your contacts. Apparently this is what happened... Sounds like a winderz problem to me. I won't personally touch those sites with a 10 foot piece of cat5. Nope, it's a tick the box problem. And FWIW, LinkedIn can be extremely valuable (unlike Facebook) - I've received some of my best job offers from it as Recruiters seem to trawl it regularly. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora Rawhide 11.91 slow startup
2009/9/20 Clemens Eisserer linuxhi...@gmail.com: Hi, I've been on rawhide for quite some time now, and although I defragment my ext4 filesystem regulary, startup is quite slow. Until KDE has fully started up, it takes almost 2 minutes on my Core2Duo laptop. I've a second partitition where I've installed Kubuntu-8.10 alpha 5 and it boots in a fraction of time. I wonder where the large difference between Fedora and Kubuntu comes from? Any ideas how I can improve boot time? Post to the correct list? ;oP https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: grub in mbr needs bootable flag
2009/9/17 Herbert Gasiorowski ga...@web.de: Im using a kickstart installation with my own partitioning. I had no problems with Fedora 10 but now on f11 grub will not start without a bootable flag set on any partition. It nearly looks as if grub is installed in some partition but I am quite shure that the old MSDOS MBR is overwritten. Is there a way to check if grub is installed in the MBR? Or is it a bug in grub? (kickstart option is: bootloader --location=mbr) If it's in the MBR, when you do this: dd if=/dev/sda count=1 bs=512 2/dev/null | strings | grep GRUB It should say GRUB - if it doesn't, it's not there. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Rhythmbox --command-line ??
2009/9/14 William Case billli...@rogers.com: Hi; Does anyone know how to get RhythmBox started from a command line in a launcher? I would like to put a Gnome launcher on my desktop or panel that launches RhythmBox gui but with the Radio source and my favourite Radio Station selected i.e already included in the launch command line. I have searched yelp and the Internet; I can't seem to find a way to do this yet it seems such an obvious request. Anything that does exist is about hacks for the rhythmbox-client. [...@samlap ~]$ cat /usr/share/applications/rhythmbox.desktop | grep Exec Exec=rhythmbox %U %U is a URI - so could you not give it the URI of your favourite radio station? (or am I missing the point) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Question on using a Joystick as a mouse in Fedora please?
2009/9/14 Smith, Herb herb.sm...@boeing.com: I wish to avoid getting carpal tunnel syndrome. I adopted a track ball mouse that allows you to move the cursor with your thumb and thus eliminate the necessity to have a lot of wrist movement. It works great for me. +1 for that. I have a Logitech Cordless Optical TrackMan which works great and definitely gives me less cramp than a mouse. In my case, the ball is moved with the fingers and my only complaint is that the scroll wheel is just out of Index Finger reach so you have to switch hand position to use it (which I don't do very often.) Also, the full complement of Gel wrist-rests for keyboard and mouse helps a lot with proper hand position. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 SSH Restricting remote user to specific dir+ sub dirs.
2009/9/13 Mauriat Miranda mli...@mjmwired.com: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to restrict a user to a specified dir say: /Documents/* fail2ban also installed if relevant. I used Jailkit for this exact purpose: http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/ Unfortunately I don't think it is prepackaged for Fedora. OpenSSH now has ChrootDirectory: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit
2009/9/13 Peter l Jakobi li...@kefk.oa.shuttle.de: 2. Wasting someones time with excess quoting and flaming in mailinglists is a good way to ensure that he'll loose his enthusiasm. Flaming is bad, but I for one don't have too much of a problem with excess quoting. It doesn't take _that_ much time to read as I generally skim-read anyway. I question how much time is lost with /excessive/ quoting. I have a bigger problem with people making initial posts full or unnecessary verbiage and no concrete information. 3. One of the reasons that many lists have netiquettes and have added top-posting to the list of things to avoid. Again, I'm not too fussed - I work in a Microsoft Environment where most people do this - I respect the etiquette guidelines of the list on this, but I don't usually castigate people for it. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: enabling root over ssh on F11
2009/9/12 Aaron Gray aaronngray.li...@googlemail.com: 2009/9/12 Jonathan Dieter jdie...@gmail.com On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 20:53 +0100, Aaron Gray wrote: I still cannot access root at login ! Must still be doing something dumb :( Aaron Looking at your earlier log, I have to ask. Are you sure you're typing in the correct password? Yes, the same password as works with 'su' once logged in as a normal user. Aaron Are the permissions on root's .ssh folder set correctly (chmod -R 700 .ssh) on the source and target? That's the most common cause I've seen of failed logins -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Solved] Re: Recuperating panel icons
2009/9/11 gil...@altern.org: On Friday 11 September 2009 03:33:57 gil...@altern.org wrote: I don't know how to add it back to the KDE Panel, in Gnome it is right click on Panel, choose Add to Panel - Notification Area. Solved. Thanks. Please, never end a thread this way. Always say how it was solved. By doing eaxctly what was suggested, of course. All said icons do belong to the notification area. If you try removing or adding the notification area, you'll see what happens. I think Anne knows this - I think she was more wondering whether you'd solved it by doing what I said in Gnome, found the equivalent yourself in KDE or were using some other Desktop. It's not that we care *how* you solved it, but it may be helpful to someone else in the future to google your symptoms and find out exactly how you actually solved it rather than trying every recommendation in the thread (which in a general thread, might be all wrong) to find out which one actually works! ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Guess who's right behind Ubuntu at Distrowatch
2009/9/11 Kavon Farvardin kavo...@gmail.com: Fedora is as easy as Ubuntu to use (and I've less issues than with Ubuntu), I don't see what the fuss is about Fedora colour scheme is predominantly blue. Ubuntu colour scheme is predominantly brown /end differences -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unable to login after getting system update of X11 in fedora 11
2009/9/11 Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com: 2009/9/11 Jatin K ssh.fed...@gmail.com: On 09/11/2009 09:19 PM, Rodrigo Renault wrote: Same problem here after those updates. While the problem is not fixed, try to change to tty2 at the login screen, kill your X session and then start it again. After this I was able to login. thnx for you reply .. I dont need to change tty2 it work on the default tty but I need to try 10 to 15 times then and then I can login ... :-( this is my Xorg.0.log file Try booting the previous kernel, if it goes away you may have the bug I've just filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522863 Do any of you use Gnome / Desktop Effects / Compiz? I do and I just hit this when I rebooted - disabling Desktop Effects got me back into my desktop. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unable to login after getting system update of X11 in fedora 11
2009/9/11 Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com: 2009/9/11 Jatin K ssh.fed...@gmail.com: On 09/11/2009 09:19 PM, Rodrigo Renault wrote: Same problem here after those updates. While the problem is not fixed, try to change to tty2 at the login screen, kill your X session and then start it again. After this I was able to login. thnx for you reply .. I dont need to change tty2 it work on the default tty but I need to try 10 to 15 times then and then I can login ... :-( this is my Xorg.0.log file Try booting the previous kernel, if it goes away you may have the bug I've just filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522863 I +1'd your bug because I'm also using the i915 driver - but as I said in my other post, disabling Desktop Effects got me back into the Desktop using the most recent kernel. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Recuperating panel icons
2009/9/10 gil...@altern.org: As I explained here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-August/msg02753.html a sleuth of icons have disappered from my top panel, but it seems the problem is only with the icons: the applications still work. For instance, I recently received a message at the bottom of the screen saying updates were available. I clicked install and everything apparently installed correctly. The problem is I don't have the update icon in the panel and I can't check which updates are available before they install. Same for Klipper. If I press CTRL + ALT + V, the content appears, but there's no icon to do so. Same for the new CUPS icon thaT checks for the printer, and so on. Of course, all icons have disappeared from the Add to panel menu. Anybody knows of some way to reinstall the icons? It sounds like you have lost your System Tray / Notification Area, not the icons. I don't know how to add it back to the KDE Panel, in Gnome it is right click on Panel, choose Add to Panel - Notification Area. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Latest kernel update for F11?
2009/9/8 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com: Is there any automatically updated web page showing the latest greatest kernel version/build available for a given Fedora version, I mean, without getting into the repos?. Say, if I want to create a shell script to check the latest kernel on the repos and compare it with whatever is installed on the system, what would be the URL or place to check? [...@samwrk ~]$ repoquery kernel | cut -d: -f2 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 If you are using kernel-PAE and comparing to `uname -r` you'll need to get rid of a spurious .PAE on the uname -r output: [...@samwrk ~]$ repoquery kernel-PAE | cut -d: -f2 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686 [...@samwrk ~]$ uname -r 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE [...@samwrk ~]$ uname -r | sed -e 's/.PAE//g' 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686 repoquery is provided by the yum-utils package. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Question on shredding a terebyte drive
2009/9/2 Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com: On 02/09/09 21:32, Dean S. Messing wrote: I have a terebyte sata drive that I need to securely wipe clean. It originally had 2 partitions. I deleted them using `fdisk', rebooted, and then as root ran shred -vz /dev/sdd Angle-Grinder or Belt-Sander on the platters. Works every time. Too slow and few opportunities for parallelisation. Now, a .50 cal - that's a secure erase, and it scales to 17 erase operations in parallel: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/22/video-50-caliber-armor-piercing-round-vs-18-hard-drives/ -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE clock settings
2009/9/2 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: Bill Davidsen wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 20:36 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: So, when you installed Fedora, did you carefully uncheck that little box that says System Clock uses UTC? Windows does not really understand UTC or handle it very well. The solution is to go to the System -- Administration -- Date and Time application, click the Time Zone tab, uncheck the Clock Uses UTC box, click OK, reboot the machine, go into your BIOS and set the hardware clock correctly if need be. That should fix things. Anyone know how to accomplish this under KDE? The Clock uses UTC box doesn't seem to exist in the KDE universe (under System Settings-Date and Time.) The little box is in the install dialog. So, is your solution that a reinstall should be done to fix this problem? :-) Setting System Clock uses UTC converts to this in /etc/sysconfig/clock: UTC=true So the answer is edit /etc/sysconfig/clock as root, change that to false, reboot and get on with the rest of your life. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE clock settings
2009/9/2 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/9/2 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: Bill Davidsen wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 20:36 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: So, when you installed Fedora, did you carefully uncheck that little box that says System Clock uses UTC? Windows does not really understand UTC or handle it very well. The solution is to go to the System -- Administration -- Date and Time application, click the Time Zone tab, uncheck the Clock Uses UTC box, click OK, reboot the machine, go into your BIOS and set the hardware clock correctly if need be. That should fix things. Anyone know how to accomplish this under KDE? The Clock uses UTC box doesn't seem to exist in the KDE universe (under System Settings-Date and Time.) The little box is in the install dialog. So, is your solution that a reinstall should be done to fix this problem? :-) Setting System Clock uses UTC converts to this in /etc/sysconfig/clock: UTC=true So the answer is edit /etc/sysconfig/clock as root, change that to false, reboot and get on with the rest of your life. Of courseif you read the thread you'd see that I'd already provided a solution... :-) Heck - if only I had time for that! Since changing jobs, I only get a chance to read the odd email and I admittedly didn't check the whole history on this. I'm not certain who you are directing the get on with the rest of your life commentbut don't you think suggesting that the solution lies within the installation dialog just a tag bit of overkill? Err, not directed at anyone in particular and no offence intended! I didn't see who suggested you could only do it in the installation dialog, but they are wrong and that is definitely overkill. As for the UTC=true...I have my doubts about that. While I didn't do any extensive research, I found that checking the UTC box in the Gnome clock utility did *not* alter that file to include that phrase...at least not with my time zonebut maybe that is due to my time zone not having DST. I don't have UTC=* it set on my Fedora laptop, but I see it all the time at Work on RHEL machines. Frequently Tech's update the timezone by linking a new one from /etc/localtime, but don't update /etc/sysconfig/clock so their changes get overwritten on the next update of tzdata - I'm very familiar with fixing that and I'm sure that setting the correct value of TIMEZONE and UTC in this file as well as copying the right tzdata file to /etc/localtime is enough to convince a server of what timezone it resides in. But then I live in the right timezone, so when I'm not using DST, I am in UTC ;o) The bottom line is that the obvious utility which I looked at, as other people did too, did not have a check box for that setting and a bugzilla has been written. Fair enough - as mentioned, I didn't have time to read the whole thread! Have a good evening, Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Argh!! Html is on again!
2009/9/2 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 21:15 +, g wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Looks like you forgot to turn it off before sending the above :-) actually, that is 'quoted-printable'. Why are you replying to a different list? ARRGGHHH, I spent 10 minutes checking my GMail Spam and Bin folders looking for the original of that message to this list! -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: start location for windows
2009/9/3 Bob Marcan bob.mar...@gmail.com: On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:09:32 +0100 Ron Yorston r...@tigress.co.uk wrote: Steven Stern wrote: When I start a new program in Gnome, it positions the new window at the top left of the screen. Is there a way to tell it to use some other location (e.g., center)? The Gnome window manager, metacity, positions windows automatically and offers no control. I maintain a patch to metacity that allows windows to be positioned manually: http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/metacity/index.html RPMs for Fedora and RHEL are available there. Ron Where are the times when we can specify the X11 -geometry ;-( Linux, great operating system with the more and more windoze like gui crap. If you are using Compiz to give shinyness and you have Compiz Config Settings Manager installed (yum install ccsm), you may be able to go to System - Preferences - Look and Feel - CompizConfig Settings Manager. Once you are in, investigate the Place Windows plugin, which may do a limited amount of what you want. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
2009/8/23 Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au: On 21Aug2009 05:17, ann kok oiyan...@yahoo.ca wrote: | ls -1 but I only want the file to list not directory Please don't top-post. PLease BELOW and TRIM the quoted material for context, as I have done. Have you tried: ls -l | grep '^-' I don't understand why this thread has been going on so long. I also can't understand how the OP couldn't solve this with a quick {insert web search engine of your choice} query. alias lsf='find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -ls' alias lsd='find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -ls' -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
2009/8/21 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com: On 08/21/2009 05:13 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: File a bug? Demand? What response time does your support contract promise? If this is the attitude of RPM Fusion packagers, why on earth are they touting kmod as a superior kernel module packaging system? They would have *less* to worry about if they switched to DKMS. Users would have more uptime and less I hope RPM Fusion is making a new RPM for me. Or, everyone could switch to akmods, which achieves the same result as DKMS but installs packages correctly (and removes them when no longer needed). -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: More on the Cat with a Twitter account
2009/8/20 Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net: Spurred on by the touching story of the creation of a Twitter account for a cat I indeed found that if firebox was put in Internet Explorer mode using the User Agent I could create a Twitter account. I felt appropriately chastened until this morning when I found that firefox pretending to be Internet Explorer could not execute the Twitter Search command. What a bummer. So back to Windows I had to go. I'm confused. I exclusively use Firefox. I signed up for a Twitter account about 2 months ago and it was fine. I've just gone to twitter.com and clicked the Seach button and it still works fine - although it does use Javascript to submit the search. Do you perchance have the NoScript plugin loaded in Firefox? -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: raid stripe size vs performance
2009/8/20 Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 01:43:27PM -0700, Phill wrote: I'm rebuilding a RHEL 5 server used primarily for building code. It has perc 6i controller and I'm installing 6 15K sas drives. The plan is to setup a raid 10 configuration for improved performance. Does anyone know if I can significantly increase or degrade my performance by selecting a larger stripe size? The default is 64k and I have read in a performance report that a 512k size may be more desirable for Linux systems. Thanks for any replies. Well.. if you do large sequential reads/writes then big stripe size will help, but if you do small random-io then large stripe size like that will be really bad. It really depends on your workload. I was about to say much the same thing in closing, but actually was going to point you to this article which has different advice to Pasi's (and different to how I would expect). http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/raid/concepts/perfStripe-c.html It actually says that a large stripe size might be better for random transactions on lots of small files (as I would expect from compiling code), because it means you can read a whole small file from each disk in the array - so in your case you'd be able to read 6 files at once (1 from each stripe (3) multiplied by 2 (for the mirrored copies)). If you had a small stripe size, you'd increase the chance that your small file would be split across multiple disks - so you might require more than one disk per file and you wouldn't get 6 concurrent accesses - in your case it might involve up to three drives. A small number of requests for large files might benefit from small stripe sizes, because it would increase the chance that reading your large file involved reads from multiple disks - so you'd get higher throughput. As always, large and small file sizes are subjective terms and there is no substitute for benchmarking your own particular case - and this is a hotly contested subject among Storage gurus! -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: (no subject)
2009/8/18 gil...@altern.org: Does Red Hat really think that Fedora users will buy RHEL because they dig GIMP 2.2 so much? Red Hat Enterprise Linux is a very successful, profitable product line, which many people buy. I'm not sure how many of them are Fedora users and I'm not sure how much Red Hat cares either way - people like you are not the target market. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HACKED!
2009/8/13 gil...@altern.org: snipped 5 paragraphs of irrelevant crap So, I desinstalled/installed the MM applications and, after some playing around, everything almost seemed back to normal... with GNOME-MPlayer for playing ASF/WM files by default. For ASX, I believe Amarok was still suggested :) Since it's impossible to see the properties of GNOME-MPlayer -- a default which looks rather weird, since it's supposed to be only an interface to MPlayer --,I chose /usr/bin/mplayer, but I'm still asked to install MPlayer. Does anybody know the PATH to their default application for ASX files? I really want to give that Bell/Microsoft service another try ASAP. *My* system plays ASX files in Totem: [...@samlap ~]$ grep video/x-ms-asf /usr/share/applications/defaults.list video/x-ms-asf=totem.desktop; Totem is installed as /usr/bin/totem Of course, I recognise that you don't like Totem and will probably follow this up with a lengthy rant about how the Totem/Gstreamer guys don't care about you and playing your favourite Website - apparently Mplayer does play that website, but you don't know what the path to the Gnome Mplayer binary is and are incapable of searching for it yourself. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
2009/7/31 Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk: Is there a single mail client that has a nice UI, can support both html mail and maildir format, as well as syncing caldav calendars and support gog encryption? Of course supporting multiple email accounts including imap is essential. claws does all that except the caldav. Its a mail program not a calendar and there are better calendar apps. http://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=vcalendar -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to sort a file -
2009/8/1 Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net: I have a file of Netgear router data that I would like to sort on date and time. the form is as below: [Site allowed: weather.noaa.gov] from source 192.168.1.9 Saturday, Aug 01,2009 17:02:51 [Site allowed: safebrowsing-cache.google.com] from source 192.168.1.11 Saturday, Aug 01,2009 17:00:16 [Site allowed: safebrowsing.clients.google.com] from source 192.168.1.11 Saturday, Aug 01,2009 17:00:13 The router appears to accumulate data until full and then clears at some point and starts a new block of data. I can collect the data periodically [perhaps at 30 minute intervals, whatever works for me] and append it to a new file I called home/bobg/NG-LOG but this leaves me with a jumble of date/time information since the raw log data is in descending order of date/time and I am adding the latest data in the same order but at the bottom so the list it may show 16:00-15:30 followed by the latest block on the list 16:30-16:00. I need to either sort the data as a function of time or append the new data to the beginning of the NG-LOG file instead of the end. I don't know where to start on this? I'm probably missing something obvious but ... Simplest solution I can thing of: # mv NG-LOG NG-LOG.old # cat newvalues.txt NG-LOG.old NG-LOG # rm NG-LOG.old But will your router not log to an external machine? Most of the routers I've ever owned had the ability to send data to an external syslog server... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
2009/8/1 Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 12:21 +0200, Christoph Höger wrote: You only need to set your server setting (where you normally set pop or imap) to email in maildir format setting. That works great for me ;) This seems to mean that if I go to Edit-Preferences-Mail Accounts-Receiving Email and then change the Server Type in the pull down menu from POP (as it is now) to Maildir, then Evolution will continue to fetch my email from the appropriate pop server, and then store it all in folders of maildir format. I don't think this is likely. You are correct - evolution is not magic. I suspect that what you *really* mean is that if some other program (say fetchmail) downloads email from the pop server and stores it in maildir style folders, then Evolution can manage it properly. Is this correct? If so, do you know any program to convert my folders, now in mbox format, into maildir format? http://untroubled.org/mbox2maildir -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Totally OT] Fedora is over - Hannah-Montana-Linux Rules
2009/7/29 g gel...@bellsouth.net: Craig White wrote: Knowing how the Disney people operate, I would presume that their licensing letter/cease and desist has already been generated by their legal team. i would have thought so too, but being that it is here; http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/Site/Home.html something is not kosher. I really hope Disney don't get all legal on this. The key to capturing a market (especially in children) is finding a new take on something popular that already appeals to them. If this effort gets just one or two more members of the fairer sex hooked on Linux in their teens, then in about 10 years we might have a bit more balance in the Community - that can only be a good thing! (no offense to all you old dudes here ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Totally OT] Fedora is over - Hannah-Montana-Linux Rules
2009/7/29 g gel...@bellsouth.net: Sharpe, Sam J wrote: If this effort gets just one or two more members of the fairer sex hooked on Linux in their teens, then in about 10 years we might have a bit more balance in the Community - that can only be a good thing! (no offense to all you old dudes here ;o) it is not just a matter of more 'fairer sex'. how do you think a lot of the young 'hard tails' are going to feel when the 'fairer sex' says, 'you mean you are still using ms windows?' how many 'hard tails' do you thing will take that? Mmmm... I'm not quite sure what your point is. I see two ways that will go: 1) More people will switch to Linux to increase their chances of successful dating. 2) Men will feel intimidated by Linux, so the proportion of women in the community will increase until there is balance. Either way, we win ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Totally OT] Fedora is over - Hannah-Montana-Linux Rules
2009/7/29 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net: On Wednesday 29 July 2009, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/7/29 g gel...@bellsouth.net: Craig White wrote: Knowing how the Disney people operate, I would presume that their licensing letter/cease and desist has already been generated by their legal team. i would have thought so too, but being that it is here; http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/Site/Home.html something is not kosher. I really hope Disney don't get all legal on this. The key to capturing a market (especially in children) is finding a new take on something popular that already appeals to them. If this effort gets just one or two more members of the fairer sex hooked on Linux in their teens, then in about 10 years we might have a bit more balance in the Community - that can only be a good thing! (no offense to all you old dudes here ;o) -- Sam Carefull there Sam, we know who you are talking about. :) No, I meant the other dude over there... the one without references to the NRA in his signature, I promise! (The NRA in the UK is a lot less militant ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Totally OT] Fedora is over - Hannah-Montana-Linux Rules
2009/7/29 Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM, john wendeljwende...@comcast.net wrote: Seriously (well not really), http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2009/07/27/hannah-montana-linux/ Regards, John I no longer underestimate what kids can learn these days. I see kids doing things with gadgets I never thought possible :-) But Linux? that's got to be the Final Frontier... Speaking as someone who has tried to teach modern kids some things I learnt when I was their age, I'm still surprised at how they can fit so much information into 160 characters, but can't master simple mechanical operations. I think even when I was a teenager (little more than a decade ago Gene!), life was stuffed with so much less technology, that I had a lot more time for the simpler things in life. I lived in the suburbs of a major city in the UK when I was a teenager. By day I spent my time in the woods lighting fires and making dens, by night I spent my time trading warez on IRC on a 28k modem. Occasionally I went to school. I've spoken to a lot of 14-18yr olds in the course of my volunteer work and I'm still continually amazed about what has changed in the average kid's life. Now they come home from school and spend their time playing computer games and messaging their friends on Bebo, MySpace and Facebook. There's no real understanding among the majority of computer users of how it works, how you program it and how to fix it any more - the fundamental way they are using computers is completely different to how I was brought up. An operating system is now a gateway to the services you use - as long as you can get the same IM programs, p2p and websites that all your mates are using, what's under the hood just isn't a factor any more. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Playing quicktime movies on Firefox
2009/7/25 Colin Paul Adams co...@colina.demon.co.uk: There's a webpage at: http://www.odonatacentral.org/index.php/GalleryAction.movie?movie=libellula-croceipennis%28hlf%29.movscientific_name=Libellula%20croceipenniscommon_name=Neon%20Skimmer that involves a quicktime movie (I think). Is there a way to play this on Linux? If so, what is the rpm(s) that I have to install? I'm coming in late on this thread, but to play that, I installed totem-mozplug (you may have to remove VLC before you can get mozplug to play the embedded video). FWIW, I have these Gstreamer RPMS installed: [...@samlap ~]$ rpm -qa gstreamer* gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.12-1.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.7-2.fc11.1.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-3.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-python-0.10.15-1.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.13-3.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-6.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.23-3.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-0.10.23-2.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-tools-0.10.23-2.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-schroedinger-1.0.7-1.fc11.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras-0.10.13-3.fc11.x86_64 It then plays in Totem, but I don't think you'll get the effect you want. It looks to me like the video has Quicktime controls so that you can rotate and zoom the image - so it's not really supposed to play as such and to be honest I don't think you'll get the desired affect without Quicktime. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is there a burt on ifconfig for fedora11?
2009/7/26 Sarkar, Kaushik kaushik.sar...@netapp.com: Don’t know from where ifconfig getting netmask as 255.255.0.0 when I set it for 255.255.255.0 I do... r...@kaushik_fedora11 / cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 snip NETMASK=255.225.255.0 Read that very very carefully... ;o) I think because 255.225.255.0 is not a valid netmask, it's defaulting to 255.255.0.0 (aren't a second pair of eyes wonderful!) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is there a burt on ifconfig for fedora11?
2009/7/26 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 18:32 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/7/26 Sarkar, Kaushik kaushik.sar...@netapp.com: Don’t know from where ifconfig getting netmask as 255.255.0.0 when I set it for 255.255.255.0 I do... r...@kaushik_fedora11 / cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 snip NETMASK=255.225.255.0 Read that very very carefully... ;o) I think because 255.225.255.0 is not a valid netmask, it's defaulting to 255.255.0.0 (aren't a second pair of eyes wonderful!) it's a valid netmask but it is one that is highly unlikely to work because it appears to have a typo No it isn't a valid netmask - that was my point - perhaps I should have been clearer about the fact it has a typo and that's why it wouldn't work. A valid netmask is a set of 1s, followed by a set of 0s. The posted netmask (with assumed typo) is: 1111 That does not fit the definition of a netmask and it certainly can't be mapped to a prefix, because the Prefix is calculated by the the number of preceding 1s! -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: httpd fails after boot
2009/7/23 Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED m_d_berger_1...@yahoo.com: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:25:48 +, Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote: On my Fedora 7 (I know its old) I have been upgrading my httpd.config, including adding some Includes and RewriteCond(ENV:...). I just noticed that after a boot, the web server fails. This can be corrected with: /etc/init.d/httpd restart which returns OK on both the stop and start. I note also that on boot, starting httpd reports OK. The environment variable it uses is defined in /etc/bashrc . Thanks for your suggestions. Mike. I just examined the Rewrite log and I found that it does not recognize the environment variable. I have S85httpd at levels 3 and 5. Where do the environment variables /etc/bashrc get set? I don't think they ever do. I believe that on boot, the commands are not run as /etc/init.d/blah, they are run as /sbin/service start blah - and that's why your environment variables don't work. From 'man service': DESCRIPTION service runs a System V init script in as predictable environment as possible, removing most environment variables and with current working directory set to /. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: httpd fails after boot
2009/7/23 Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED m_d_berger_1...@yahoo.com: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:38:45 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: [...] I just examined the Rewrite log and I found that it does not recognize the environment variable. I have S85httpd at levels 3 and 5. Where do the environment variables /etc/bashrc get set? I don't think they ever do. I believe that on boot, the commands are not run as /etc/init.d/blah, they are run as /sbin/service start blah - and that's why your environment variables don't work. From 'man service': DESCRIPTION service runs a System V init script in as predictable environment as possible, removing most environment variables and with current working directory set to /. -- Sam Then I could imagine adding to .bashrc some lines that scan httpd.config for RewriteRule lines that set environment variables and export them from .bashrc . Seems like a hard way to do things. Any better suggestions? If you look at /etc/init.d/httpd, you will see: if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/httpd ]; then . /etc/sysconfig/httpd fi So the initialisation script sources that file. If you want to set Environment variables that are available when Apache starts, it would make sense to try adding those variables to /etc/sysconfig/httpd - it might do what you want for minimal effort... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Suddenly I can't mount DVD
2009/7/13 jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com: what is the lshw command you speak of? its no on my fc11??? Then you haven't installed it... (try 'yum install lshw') But to answer your question: [...@samlap ~]$ rpm -qif /usr/sbin/lshw Name: lshw snip Description : lshw is a small tool to provide detailed informaton on the hardware configuration of the machine. It can report exact memory configuration, firmware version, mainboard configuration, CPU version and speed, cache configuration, bus speed, etc. on DMI-capable x86 systems and on some PowerPC machines (PowerMac G4 is known to work). Information can be output in plain text, XML or HTML. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another Firefox 3.5 problem update
2009/7/9 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net: On Thursday 09 July 2009, Phil Meyer wrote: This is nothing new. Nothing to see here. Move along ... Std crowd control practices apply here too. :) Shoot the ringleader and then point out the next guy to go unless everyone else moves back? Not quite sure how that applies here... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mysql vs selinux
2009/7/6 Amadeus W.M. amadeu...@verizon.net: Trying to run mysqld with datadir=/data/mysql (i.e. different than the default datadir=/var/lib/mysql). When I start mysqld for the first time it fails: [r...@alm ~]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld start Initializing MySQL database: Installing MySQL system tables... 090705 23:01:52 [Warning] Can't create test file /data/mysql/alm.lower-test 090705 23:01:52 [Warning] Can't create test file /data/mysql/alm.lower-test /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't change dir to '/data/mysql/' (Errcode: 13) 090705 23:01:52 [ERROR] Aborting snip chcon -R -u system_u -r object_r -t mysqld_db_t /home/mysqldb chcon -R -u system_u -r object_r -t mysqld_db_t /var/lib/mysql/ chcon -u system_u -r object_r -t mysqld_etc_t /etc/my.cnf with /data/mysql instead of /home/mysqldb, of course. It might be better to do this instead of the first line: chcon -R --reference=/var/lib/mysql /data/mysql Lines 2 and 3 should be unnecessary if mysql works with the default data dir already. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Moving/dragging panels on Gnome Desktop
2009/7/6 Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com: On 06/07/09 19:20, Max Pyziur wrote: With the F11 release it seems that panels on the Gnome Desktop are no longer moveable. In F10, I could drag a panel, situated at the bottom of the Desktop, to either one of the sides or the top. Or is this controlled by some configuration setting? click +alt Doesn't do anything for me... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to share a desktop? (for tutoring)
2009/7/6 Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com: There is an RDP server for Linux (xrdp, http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/), but it's not packaged for Fedora and it doesn't share the main desktop but sets up a separate X desktop using twm (I think). Building it is pretty stupid simple, however I've never used it. I used it for a while. It works by converting from RDP to VNC, so if you share your desktop with Vino, you can connect to it via RDP once you have configured xrdp properly. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Moving/dragging panels on Gnome Desktop
2009/7/6 Max Pyziur p...@brama.com: On 06/07/09 19:38, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/7/6 Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com: On 06/07/09 19:20, Max Pyziur wrote: With the F11 release it seems that panels on the Gnome Desktop are no longer moveable. In F10, I could drag a panel, situated at the bottom of the Desktop, to either one of the sides or the top. Or is this controlled by some configuration setting? click +alt Doesn't do anything for me... Then 2nd Button click on the panel Properties Orientation Thanks for the quick reply. Both proposed solutions work for me. My issue with gnome-desktop is that it seems when two panels are stacked one on top of the other (say on the bottom) they often do not load properly and therefore do not function. I'm trying to position one panel on the side/top with the other on the bottom to see if this is something that avoids this issue. Ahh, ALT+Click depends on using metacity - I'm using Gnome+Openbox just to be contrary ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help with d????????? ? ? ? ? ? .gvfs
2009/7/6 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net: On Monday 06 July 2009, David wrote: On 7/6/2009 11:27 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009, William M. Quarles wrote: I have a directory in my home directory named .gvfs with the following properties when I do an ls -Al: d? ? ? ? ? ? .gvfs I can't access it, delete it, nor rename it; nor can root do any of those things. I keep getting error messages in the terminal saying as such, too. Does anybody know how I can fix this? Thanks, William I'll follow this thread too, as I have it, and its driving amanda to squawk about it. And root cannot do anything to it either. The way that you wrote this Gene I would think that your driving amanda to squawk problem is an amanda problem not a .gvfs problem. Amanda is an 'addon' backup application, correct? And .gvfs is part of the Fedora operating file system. This .gvfs *belongs* there and is needed. -- David By what, David? I'm running kde here. I just made that script from a previous message, then did a killall on the daemon, and with that gone the tree if any has now been deleted. We will wait and see what squawks. As far as the comment about an addon, non-approved app like amanda is concerned. As far as I can see, there is no distinction between gnome-vfs2 and amanda in terms of what is an 'addon'. They both come from the same repositories. Gnome is the certainly a default in some Fedora spins, but that doesn't make it and it's dependencies the one-true-desktop. I like gnome-vfs2, I use it a lot - but I'm a Gnome user - I can quite see why KIOSlave would be more important to KDE users and other methods of accessing virtual filesystems important to other DE users. If Gene doesn't want gvfs, then it shouldn't be there - Free Operating systems are about empowering user choice! But that said, I get the same thing with my .gvfs directory when I ssh in to a freshly booted system without Gnome running - which may be the environment that amanda might have to deal with - and having screwy permissions at any point has to rate a bug surely? -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nfs permissions problem -
2009/7/4 Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net: Can anyone tell me how to enable user bobg to access the nfs server on my box48? At the rate I'm going I will have all the permissions set to 777, will need a new install to get them back where they ought to be. [b...@box9 ~]$ ll -al /mnt/home ls: cannot access /mnt/home: Permission denied [b...@box9 ~]$ cd /mnt/home bash: cd: /mnt/home: Permission denied [b...@box9 ~]$ ll -al /mnt/home ls: cannot access /mnt/home: Permission denied Nfs works fine as route but I haven't been able to find why permissions wont allow a user access. Both are running F-10 and up to date. Usernames are irrelevant. Tell us the UID's of bobg on each box (id bobg on each box will be sufficient). -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nfs permissions problem -
2009/7/4 Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net: Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/7/4 Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net: Can anyone tell me how to enable user bobg to access the nfs server on my box48? At the rate I'm going I will have all the permissions set to 777, will need a new install to get them back where they ought to be. [b...@box9 ~]$ ll -al /mnt/home ls: cannot access /mnt/home: Permission denied [b...@box9 ~]$ cd /mnt/home bash: cd: /mnt/home: Permission denied [b...@box9 ~]$ ll -al /mnt/home ls: cannot access /mnt/home: Permission denied Usernames are irrelevant. Tell us the UID's of bobg on each box (id bobg on each box will be sufficient). I have looked through the books I have as well as man pages but never found that command! I thank you for that alone. Both server and client report the same:. [b...@box9 ~]$ id bobg uid=500(bobg) gid=500(bobg) groups=500(bobg) Ok, so you don't have a UID mismatch ;o) The relevant lines from /etc/fstab (or equivalent autofs config) from the client and /etc/exports on the server might be helpful, as would the permissions as seen (by root if necessary) on the client and the server of /mnt/home. You might also find in /var/log/messages some helpful error messages on both client and server - knowing what they are might help us to help you ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any ETA on improved ATI drivers?
2009/7/4 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca: i ask since a problem i was having with the radeon driver during the test phase -- screen suddenly going dark, literally right in the middle of keystrokes -- is coming back and seems to be getting more frequent. never caused any breakage, just disconcerting. Oh good - I'm not the only one. I have the same with the radeon driver. Occasionally both screens go black for a second or two, then come back as if nothing had happened. I assumed it was either a flaky card or flaky driver as it affected both monitors equally - now I think it's definitely the driver ;o) As to the ETA for ati drivers, I don't know - but if your are referring to the closed source drivers from AMD, then they release roughly monthly and last released on the 15th June. So you'd expect something around mid-July - without any guarantees that it will work with Fedora 11! -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rescue from Live USB?
2009/7/5 David L idh...@gmail.com: My 4 year old just tripped over my laptop's power cord and it smashed into the hardwood floor. :( At this point, I thought your child was hurt! The hard drive appears to have been somewhat damaged, but still kinda sorta works. At this point I realised you were talking about the laptop hitting the floor. But it no longer boots to Fedora 11 successfully... it gets a kernel panic, presumably due to a corrupt or missing file. I have a Fedora 11 live USB. Any chance I can use that to recover the earlier Fedora installation without a re-install? Assuming you can get the data off, it's going to be WAY cheaper to put a new hard drive in that laptop rather than replacing the entire laptop. If a sudden shock caused data loss, I'd assume that the disk is beyond usefulness and thank my lucky stars if I could get any data off. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: A note to the person in the next cubicle
2009/7/3 William Case billli...@rogers.com: I am often reticent to use bugzilla for something that is minor and has more to do with look and feel or smooth operation or a manuals usefulness than being broken. I don't want to be a PIA by constantly nitpicking, but on the other hand I would think that developers would like help in getting it exactly right. Any thoughts? Any bug report is a good bug report in my opinion. I appreciate that too many bug reports swamps bugzilla, but there are guys who do a very good job of triaging and the worst that can happen is that you are told it's not a bug ;o) Are people doing something (using special search criteria) to search the bug database at the same time as a general google search or are they doing a separate search in RedHat bugzilla or do they just recognize the problem and give the link to the bug covering it? In my case it's recognising the bug and then searching bugzilla for a reference. Dag Wieers has a great page on this that can add the correct database to your Firefox search: http://dag.wieers.com/blog/searching-for-rhel-and-centos-information# I often recognize problems brought up on the Fedora users mailing list, and have the sure-fire solution while others respond with solutions that are terribly wrong. However, I am often reticent to help because too often I have seen that my 'sure-fire solutions' are wrong or unprofessional and too many of the 'terribly wrong' answers have, of course, been right. I found the best way to learn was to accept that sometimes (more often at first) you will be wrong. Eventually your answers merge with the accepted style of the list. I would like to give back. So ... what kind of mind query or problem analysis do effective responders use before giving info to other users? Think about the level and experience of your target and then think about how best you could present that information in a way they can understand. I often try and think about the simplest answer, not the most correct one. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: A note to the person in the next cubicle
2009/7/3 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com: 2009/7/3 William Case billli...@rogers.com: Are people doing something (using special search criteria) to search the bug database at the same time as a general google search or are they doing a separate search in RedHat bugzilla or do they just recognize the problem and give the link to the bug covering it? In my case it's recognising the bug and then searching bugzilla for a reference. Dag Wieers has a great page on this that can add the correct database to your Firefox search: http://dag.wieers.com/blog/searching-for-rhel-and-centos-information# Sorry - I should have been clear - although it mentioned Red Hat Bugzilla, that is the same thing as Fedora Bugzilla of course (just in case people think I sent a useless link ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 - missing font?
2009/7/1 Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com: Frank Cox wrote: On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:48:00 +0300 Markku Kolkka wrote: xorg-x11-fonts-Type1 That wasn't installed, but installing it wasn't the solution -- the error is still present. Did you restart X (and xfs) after installing the font? xorg-x11-fonts-Type1 provides the scalable IBM Courier fonts (-ibm-courier-*-*-normal--*-*-*-*-m-*-*-*) I logged out and logged back in. Shouldn't that have accomplished the goal? xfs is started as part of the system startup. You could, as root: service xfs restart Not sure about X. I think a logout/login just restarts xdm, not X itself. XFS is optional and has been for quite a while (2+ years): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureNoMoreXFS [...@samlap ~]$ rpm -qi xorg-x11-xfs package xorg-x11-xfs is not installed (my GUI works perfectly well) As such, it's probably not installed and X is sourcing the fonts from their directories and not via a font server. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: accessing a samba network drive via the command line
2009/7/1 Kevin Kempter ke...@kevinkempterllc.com: Hi all: I have a network drive that I've setup as a samba connection in dolphin. in dolphin I can go to Network -- LacieBigDisk and connect to the drive However I want to access it via the command line I can see this info per smbclient (there is no passwd) smbclient -L 192.168.1.30 Enter root's password: Domain=[LACIE-2BIG] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b] Sharename Type Comment - --- raw Disk aperature Disk IPC$ IPC IPC Service (LaCie 2big Network) Domain=[LACIE-2BIG] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b] Server Comment - --- Workgroup Master - --- WORKGROUP LACIE-2BIG I tried this: # smbclient service 192.168.1.30\\LACIE-2BIG\\raw and this: # smbclient service //192.168.1.30/LACIE-2BIG/raw Almost... try: # smbclient //192.168.1.30/raw -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Totem Movie Player
2009/7/2 gil...@altern.org: On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 22:11:04 +0200, gil...@altern.org wrote: Don't say Silly you!. I already said %...@#$ silly me!. Just tell me how to find which key/repositories are signed to provide updates on my system. I'll check and remove any reference to rpmfind. The rpm man page tells you how to find which keys have been imported: rpm -qa gpg-pubkey* You can use rpm -qi to get an idea who might have provided a key. $ rpm -qa gpg-pubkey* gpg-pubkey-8fcff4da-49c51006 gpg-pubkey-d22e77f2-49750871 $ rpm -qi gpg-pubkey* package gpg-pubkey* is not installed How come Fedora uses GPG and gpg-pubkey* is not installed? Because your syntax is wrong. You can do rpm -qa gpg-pubkey* You cannot do rpm -qi gpg-pubkey* (i.e. -i does not accept wildcards like *) You must do something like this: [...@samlap ~]$ rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE} - %{SUMMARY}\n' -a gpg-pubkey* gpg-pubkey-4ebfc273-48b5dbf3 - gpg(Fedora (10) fed...@fedoraproject.org) gpg-pubkey-8b0a5229-404602b5 - gpg(ict-redhat ict-red...@imperial.ac.uk) gpg-pubkey-4f2a6fd2-3f9d9d3b - gpg(Fedora Project fed...@redhat.com) gpg-pubkey-6df2196f-48b5d596 - gpg(Fedora (8 and 9) fed...@fedoraproject.org) gpg-pubkey-a109b1ec-3f6e28d5 - gpg(Livna.org rpms rpm-...@livna.org) gpg-pubkey-b1981b68-4878de85 - gpg(RPM Fusion repository (Fedora - nonfree) rpmfusion-build...@lists.rpmfusion.org) gpg-pubkey-d22e77f2-49750871 - gpg(Fedora (11) fed...@fedoraproject.org) gpg-pubkey-4f2a6fd2-3f9d9d3b - gpg(Fedora Project fed...@redhat.com) gpg-pubkey-f6777c67-45e5b1b9 - gpg(Adobe Systems Incorporated (Linux RPM Signing Key) sec...@adobe.com) gpg-pubkey-8fcff4da-49c51006 - gpg(RPM Fusion free repository for Fedora (11) rpmfusion-build...@lists.rpmfusion.org) gpg-pubkey-49c8885a-4878ddfb - gpg(RPM Fusion repository (Fedora - free) rpmfusion-build...@lists.rpmfusion.org) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 - missing font?
2009/6/30 Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net: On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:16:40 +0300 Markku Kolkka wrote: What's missing? xorg-x11-fonts-Type1 That wasn't installed, but installing it wasn't the solution -- the error is still present. Next guess urw-fonts, evidence is: [...@samlap ~]$ /usr/bin/fc-match courier-bold-r n022003l.pfb: Nimbus Mono L Regular [...@samlap ~]$ sudo locate n022003l.pfb [sudo] password for sam: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n022003l.pfb [...@samlap ~]$ rpm -qif /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/n022003l.pfb Name: urw-fontsRelocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.4 Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 7.fc11Build Date: Sun 01 Mar 2009 16:41:42 GMT -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: samba shares unmountable by user
2009/6/27 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net: Greetings all; Here is another example of why I run as root on the main box here, regardless of how much hell you give me about it. snip [g...@coyote Pictures]$ mount -t cifs /lappy.coyote.den/genesdir ./lappy-samba mount: only root can do that This is another example of why I use Gnome, regardless of how much hell people give me for it. [...@samlap ~]$ id uid=1000(sam) gid=100(users) groups=10(wheel),74(sshd),100(users),498(pulse-rt),501(libvirt) [...@samlap ~]$ gvfs-mount smb://10.0.1.69/Drobo01 [...@samlap ~]$ ls .gvfs/drobo01\ on\ 10.0.1.69/ Applications DroboApps Incoming Movies Music Personal TV Note that not once did I need root access, yet I did not leave the Command Line. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: samba shares unmountable by user
2009/6/27 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net: On Saturday 27 June 2009, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/6/27 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net: Greetings all; Here is another example of why I run as root on the main box here, regardless of how much hell you give me about it. snip [g...@coyote Pictures]$ mount -t cifs /lappy.coyote.den/genesdir ./lappy-samba mount: only root can do that This is another example of why I use Gnome, regardless of how much hell people give me for it. [...@samlap ~]$ id uid=1000(sam) gid=100(users) groups=10(wheel),74(sshd),100(users),498(pulse-rt),501(libvirt) [...@samlap ~]$ gvfs-mount smb://10.0.1.69/Drobo01 [...@samlap ~]$ ls .gvfs/drobo01\ on\ 10.0.1.69/ Applications DroboApps Incoming Movies Music Personal TV Note that not once did I need root access, yet I did not leave the Command Line. -- Sam Ok: [g...@coyote Pictures]$ id uid=501(gene) gid=501(gene) on the lappy, gene is 500:500 [g...@coyote Pictures]$ gvfs-mount smb://lappy.coyote.den/genesdir Error mounting location: volume doesn't implement mount [g...@coyote Pictures]$ [g...@coyote Pictures]$ man gvfs-mount No manual entry for gvfs-mount Do you have a /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/smb.mount (provided by the gvfs-smb package?) Possibly this doesn't work if you're not running a Gnome desktop - it does require Fuse, gfvsd and probably DBus running. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to tell if kernel compiled from kernel.org is x86_64 or just 32 bit?
2009/6/21 Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com Dear fellow Fedora users, Is there a way to tell if a kernel is 64 bit or 32 bit? If one compiles and installs a kernel from kernel.org. Why am I asking? I have a 64 bit Fedora 11 installed and it showed 2.6.29.4-???x86_64 at the end so I know it is a 64 bit kernel. I copy the config of that kernel and compile a new one and install it, is that kernel still a 64 bit kernel or is it a 32 bit kernel? When compiling I see just x86/ directories in the source of the kernel and no x86_64? I have a modem that needs drivers to con nect the modem is 32 bit only but can be compiled in 64 bit code, I tried without success compiling it against the 2.6.29.4-?? x86_64 kernel. However, after compiling the kernel from kernel.org and compiling the same code it succeeded and it runs under the 2.6.30 kernel. I know that `uname -a` will tell many things about our running kernels, but is there something else that can tell us? Or when we compile a kernel.org kernel, do we have to say compile it in 64 bit? I have compiled several kernels, but not knowing if the new kernel is indeed 64 bit or not? The config file for the kernel which should be .config in the directory where you built the kernel will tell you. Fedora kernels copy this file to an appropriately named one in /boot. Thus: [...@samlap boot]$ grep CONFIG_X86_64 config-2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64 CONFIG_X86_64=y CONFIG_X86_64_SMP=y CONFIG_X86_64_ACPI_NUMA=y This is a 64bit kernel... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 install: dl360 and ethernet
2009/6/21 Toxicroadkill - Fedora toxicroadkill_fed...@toxicroadkill.homeip.net: im attempting to install f11 on a 1gen hp dl360, all goes well, except when it tries to init the ethernet interface, im getting 'cant bring up eth0' message. im using the exact same ip config as f7, and have tried dhcp as well (which the network is set up here to do), no luck.. Does a DL360 have two internet interfaces like a 380? If so, have you considered that the interface numbering might have changed somewhere between F7 and F11 and what you think is eth0 might now be eth1 - try swapping network cables and changing the HWADDR in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth* -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Are there any BMR (bare metal restore) style apps for linux
2009/6/15 Gabriel - IP Guys gabr...@impactteachers.com: Thank you for taking the time to read my email, I’m looking for a BMR app for fedora, so that I can at least have the piece of mind that I can rebuild within an hour rather than a day or so. I’ve looked at Amanda, but I’m wary about the BMR capabilities, any hints or tips? 1) make sure your machine is built using Kickstart and your favourite method of booting (I like PXE). 2) Make sure your machine is backed up with any software you like. 3) When your machine dies, rebuild it with the previous kickstart. 4) Restore the data to your kickstarted machine with your favourite backup software. 5) Profit (Seriously, I've done this - admittedly using Symantec Networker as the favourite backup software - and it is way way less headache than any other BMR method) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Midnight Commander
2009/6/15 Yoram Halberstam yoram.halbers...@gmail.com: A little question for Fedora. With Suse I had Midnight Commander, a clone of Norton Commander - can I get it packaged for Fedora? # yum install mc [...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum info mc Name : mc Arch : x86_64 Epoch : 1 Version: 4.6.2 Release: 10.fc11 Size : 5.3 M Repo : installed Summary: User-friendly text console file manager and visual shell URL: http://www.midnight-commander.org/ License: GPLv2 Description: Midnight Commander is a visual shell much like a file manager, only : with many more features. It is a text mode application, but it also : includes mouse support. Midnight Commander's best features are its : ability to FTP, view tar and zip files, and to poke into RPMs for : specific files. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is KOffice2.0.0 in F11?
2009/6/15 Anne Wilson an...@kde.org: Two-part question. Is KOffice2.0.0 in F11, and specifically, is anyone running KWord? Is it complete? Under F10 I have a badly broken version. No, it's apparently 1.6.3 [...@samlap ~]$ yum info koffice-suite Name : koffice-suite Version: 1.6.3 Release: 21.20090306svn.fc11 It looks like koffice2 is tagged for F12... http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=2234 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
2009/6/15 Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net: The locked box approach is probably not used in very large enterprises. At least not where I work ( 100,000 employees, 98,000 Tier 3 workstations.) I think there is a difference between administering a large number of Workstations (as in a computer used at the desk by one or two induviduals) and administering a large number of Servers simply because tighter controls are placed on the latter. I know of a few large places where sudo is king and the root passwords to the servers are randomised and kept in a safe (even if it's an electronic safe!). At a former employer, users had sudo rights on their own workstation to do pretty much anything (and similar PolicyKit and ConsoleHelper configs) but were never told their own root password. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 06/14/2009 11:35 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram # yum list installed | grep fc10 remove them manually if needed Carefull. Rahul said if needed. Some packages in F11 are named fc10, asw they are packages that haven't changed and so version name hasn't changed as well. Just so you don't end up removeing packages like unique or libdhcp4client.. The former has a Fedora 11 version. The latter is obsolete. Where is the F11 version of unique - I don't see it... Also, what about these? [...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum list | grep fc10 axis.x86_64 1.2.1-4.1.fc10 fedora axis-javadoc.x86_64 1.2.1-4.1.fc10 fedora axis-manual.x86_641.2.1-4.1.fc10 fedora castor.x86_64 0.9.5-3.fc10fedora castor-demo.x86_640.9.5-3.fc10fedora castor-doc.x86_64 0.9.5-3.fc10fedora castor-javadoc.x86_64 0.9.5-3.fc10fedora castor-test.x86_640.9.5-3.fc10fedora castor-xml.x86_64 0.9.5-3.fc10fedora compat-db.x86_64 4.6.21-5.fc10 fedora compat-db46.x86_644.6.21-5.fc10 fedora cowbell.x86_640.3-0.svn34.4.fc10 fedora fityk.i3860.8.1-14.fc10 fedora fityk.x86_64 0.8.1-14.fc10 fedora fityk-devel.i386 0.8.1-14.fc10 fedora fityk-devel.x86_640.8.1-14.fc10 fedora fpc.x86_642.2.2-3.fc10fedora fpc-doc.x86_642.2.2-3.fc10fedora fpc-src.x86_642.2.2-3.fc10fedora geronimo-specs.x86_64 1.0-2.M2.fc10 fedora geronimo-specs-compat.x86_64 1.0-2.M2.fc10 fedora htmlparser.noarch 1.6-3.fc10 fedora htmlparser-javadoc.noarch 1.6-3.fc10 fedora klear.x86_64 0.7.0-2.svn113.fc10 fedora labrea.x86_64 2.5.1-2.fc10fedora libtar.i386 1.2.11-11.fc10 fedora libtar-devel.i386 1.2.11-11.fc10 fedora libtar-devel.x86_64 1.2.11-11.fc10 fedora msv-demo.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-manual.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-msv.x86_641:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-msv-javadoc.x86_641:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-relames.x86_641:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-relames-javadoc.x86_641:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-rngconv.x86_641:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-xmlgen.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-xmlgen-javadoc.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-xsdlib.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-xsdlib-javadoc.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora orpie.x86_64 1.5.1-4.fc10fedora raine.i3860.50.11-4.fc10 rpmfusion-nonfree streamdvd.x86_64 0.4-8.fc10 rpmfusion-free streamdvd-gui.x86_64 0.4-8.fc10 rpmfusion-free streamdvd-streamanalyze.x86_640.4-8.fc10 rpmfusion-free subtitleripper.x86_64 0.3-6.fc10 rpmfusion-free tagsoup.x86_641.0.1-2.2.fc10 fedora tagsoup-javadoc.x86_641.0.1-2.2.fc10 fedora -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com: 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 06/14/2009 11:35 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram # yum list installed | grep fc10 remove them manually if needed Carefull. Rahul said if needed. Some packages in F11 are named fc10, asw they are packages that haven't changed and so version name hasn't changed as well. Just so you don't end up removeing packages like unique or libdhcp4client.. The former has a Fedora 11 version. The latter is obsolete. Where is the F11 version of unique - I don't see it... To answer my own question, if you've pre-upgraded from a recent F10 to F11, you will still have the fc10 version of unique as it's a higher version (1.2-8) than the version shipped with F11 (1.2-7). I guess as versions move on, that will sort itself out. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 06/14/2009 11:51 PM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: Where is the F11 version of unique - I don't see it... # rpm -q unique unique-1.0.4-4.fc11.i586 Also, what about these? [...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum list | grep fc10 I don't have time to check on every one of them for you but look up in http://koji.fedoraproject.org for official packages if you are not sure. Check your repo list and mirror settings as well. I checked a random few (I'm very confident there is nothing wrong with my settings). http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=55464 Note that the version of all the msv packages is in F11 is 2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 - because it's tagged as in f11-final. This is probably because the build of msv-1.2-0.3.20050722.3.4.fc11 failed according to Koji. The package called orpie is in the same state and so is libtar. The list goes on... So, the outcome is that there are genuine packages in F11 that are tagged as fc10 - I can check more cases if you are still not sure. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 06/15/2009 12:06 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: So, the outcome is that there are genuine packages in F11 that are tagged as fc10 - I can check more cases if you are still not sure. I am sure there are but the examples you gave out earlier weren't valid. That's all. You're confused - I came into the conversation late and didn't give any examples - must have been the OP ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 06/15/2009 12:09 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 06/15/2009 12:06 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: So, the outcome is that there are genuine packages in F11 that are tagged as fc10 - I can check more cases if you are still not sure. I am sure there are but the examples you gave out earlier weren't valid. That's all. You're confused - I came into the conversation late and didn't give any examples - must have been the OP ;o) Sorry. Misspoke. The examples given out by Martin wasn't and you questioned whether a Fedora 11 version of unique existed. It does. I think the real learning point here is that people who try removing all fc10 packages are going to be in trouble... An F10-F11 preupgrade will leave some (unique, ntp, ntp-perl etc.) where the updated F10 version is higher than F11 and there are some that should genuinely be in F11 because they don't have an equivalent F11 build yet. I just did an automatic --nodeps removal of all my .fc10 packages followed by a yum install of the same packages and I certainly have some still tagged as fc10, but I guess all this will change when Mr Keating fixes all those failed F11 builds in koji against his name ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Martín Marqués martin.marq...@gmail.com: 2009/6/14 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com: To answer my own question, if you've pre-upgraded from a recent F10 to F11, you will still have the fc10 version of unique as it's a higher version (1.2-8) than the version shipped with F11 (1.2-7). I guess as versions move on, that will sort itself out. Can someone explain how something like this happens? I saw the same thing happen with ntp. Yes. You freeze Rawhide as you are about to release Fedora n+1, at the point you freeze, applications are roughly at the same version levels as those in Fedora n. You make some updates to Fedora n in response to bugs or security issues, but you don't want to prejudice your Fedora n+1 testing cycle, so you queue the same updates for *after* Fedora n+1 releases. Someone then runs pre-upgrade from Fedora n to Fedora n+1, at which point any package in Fedora n which is newer than the package of the same name in Fedora n+1 is not replaced - so you end up with a small number of packages from Fedora n - Updates in your Fedora n+1 install. I'm pretty sure I explained this better before, but I've made it generic so the same explanation will apply for a F10-11 preupgrade as an F11-12 preupgrade ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Questions with rsync
2009/6/13 gmspro gms...@yahoo.com: --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote #! /bin/sh snip /dev /home/*/.gvfs/ /home/*/.google/ /home/*/.dbus/ /home/*/.fonts/ There are no files like /home/*/.gvfs/ /home/*/.google/ /home/*/.dbus/ /home/*/.fonts/ Can I avoid these lines? Yes. And I have some confusions too. /home/* means everything in the /home directory. So what does it mean by /home/*/.gvfs? * expands to everything in the directory, so if you have: /home/user1 /home/user2 /home/user3 That expands to /home/user1/.gvfs/ /home/user2/.gvfs/ /home/user3/.gvfs/ To put it in English, it means the .gvfs folders within every subdirectory of /home/ -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rpm -qa or yum list installed sans version numbers?
2009/6/13 Scott Beamer geek...@angrykeyboarder.com: I'm trying to accomplish either. I've done it before but I forgot how. I previously was able to find this information via a Google search but today I've come up empty. If you know how, please share. :) [...@samlap ~]$ rpm -qa --qf %{NAME}\n -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rpm -qa or yum list installed sans version numbers?
2009/6/14 Phil Meyer pme...@themeyerfarm.com: On 06/13/2009 03:55 PM, Scott Beamer wrote: I'm trying to accomplish either. I've done it before but I forgot how. I previously was able to find this information via a Google search but today I've come up empty. If you know how, please share. :) Thanks. Scott There is a cron job that does this every day and creates the file: /var/log/rpmpkgs. That file doesn't actually satisfy the requirements of the post - names SANS version numbers, but if would have been a good starting point to start investigating rpm --queryformat -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: can't record from line input
2009/6/10 James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk: F11 seems only to have microphone input. I could record from line input in F10, using audacity. (Gnome sound recorder always gave problems.) F11 has simplified the audio controls to the point that it seems impossible to activate the line input. What to do? No point in suggesting remove PulseAudio, since that won't bring the ALSA controls back! Investigate the Advanced Volume Control in the Preferences menu. I believe it's invoked from the command line as gst-mixer. This is what the F11 Release Notes have to say on your subject: --- Volume Control An updated volume control manager application provides you with more control over your audio preferences. Better integrated with PulseAudio, you can now control individual application inputs and outputs along with the sources and destinations for the audio. Using the new PulseAudio-based volume applet, there is no way to adjust ALSA sound levels. If they are set too low, raising the PulseAudio sound levels may not work acceptably. For this contingency, the old gstreamer-based volume application is also available by default. It is available under the name Advanced Volume Control, in the SystemPreferences menu section. You will also need to use this application if you need to select an input channel for recording (for instance, line-in or mic-in). --- -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
2009/6/11 gmspro gms...@yahoo.com: --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: From: Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net Subject: Re: ssh tutorial To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 6:49 PM Uwe Kiewel wrote: yourname=linux user account // Am i correct? yourserver=?? No. ssh -l yourusername yourserver I also think,it is a wrong format. Correct format is : ssh yourn...@yourserver Both a correct formats. ssh -l sam machine.mydomain.com == ssh s...@machine.mydomain.com -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
2009/6/11 gmspro gms...@yahoo.com: I would try ssh -v ipaddress This does not work. It says permission denied after giving the password three times. and ssh -l abc ipaddress Giving the same password this works. Is your username on the machine you are ssh'ing from the same as your username on the machine you are ssh'ing to? If your username locally is USERLOCAL, then ssh -v ipaddress is equivalent to ssh -v userlo...@ipaddress or ssh -v -l USERLOCAL ipaddress If your usernames are the same, then the only way I can see ssh ipaddress failing while ssh -l username ipaddress succeeds is if your .ssh/config file has a specific username for that machine set - something like this: # cat .ssh/config Host1.2.3.4 Userremoteuser The -l argument to ssh would override that, but without the -l you would be trying to ssh -l remoteuser 1.2.3.4 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh tutorial
2009/6/11 gmspro gms...@yahoo.com: Is your username on the machine you are ssh'ing from the same as your username on the machine you are ssh'ing to? Never, usernames are different. Well that is why ssh -l abc ipaddress and ssh a...@ipaddress work for you, but ssh ipaddress won't. You are trying to login to your remote machine with the username you use on your local machine! If you want to set it up so that you don't need to type the username, you need to investigate the .ssh/config file (man ssh_config for details) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: httpd mod_file_cache missing so is someones logic
2009/6/11 Brian Millett bmill...@gmail.com: Ok, I looked at the Changelog for httpd-2.2.11-8 and I see this: * Tue Mar 17 2009 Joe Orton jor...@redhat.com 2.2.11-8 - fix pidfile in httpd.logrotate (thanks to Rainer Traut) - don't build mod_mem_cache or mod_file_cache https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505048 Ok, so why? I am very curious why it was not compiled? Very frustrating. This any help in seeking enlightenment? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493458 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to mount old FC10 hdd as secondary drive in new FC10 machine
2009/6/11 Frank Millman fr...@chagford.com: Hi all I have installed FC10 on a new hdd. I have an existing FC10 on another hdd, and I want to copy some data onto the new hdd. I have put the old hdd into the same machine, as a secondary drive, but I am having difficulty in mounting it. Here is the output of fdisk - [r...@localhost ~]# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 20.4 GB, 20495658496 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2491 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x972f8d73 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 25 200781 83 Linux /dev/sda2 26 2491 19808145 8e Linux LVM Disk /dev/sdb: 20.0 GB, 20019314176 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2433 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xd56bd56b Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 25 200781 83 Linux /dev/sdb2 26 2433 19342260 8e Linux LVM If I try to mount /dev/sdb2, I get the message unknown filesystem type 'lvm2pv'. I googled for this, and got quite a few hits, but I still can't get it right. Here is the output of pvscan - [r...@localhost ~]# pvscan PV /dev/sdb2 VG VolGroup00 lvm2 [18.44 GB / 32.00 MB free] PV /dev/sda2 VG VolGroup00 lvm2 [18.88 GB / 32.00 MB free] Total: 2 [37.31 GB] / in use: 2 [37.31 GB] / in no VG: 0 [0 ] As you can see, /dev/sdb2 is part of VolGroup00, which according to /etc/fstab is mounted to /. I can see the contents of /dev/sda2, but not /dev/sdb2. I tried to create a new volume group for /dev/sdb2, as follows - [r...@localhost ~]# vgcreate hdd2 /dev/sdb2 Physical volume '/dev/sdb2' is already in volume group 'VolGroup00' Unable to add physical volume '/dev/sdb2' to volume group 'hdd2'. So I tried to remove /dev/sdb2 from volume group 'VolGroup00' - [r...@localhost ~]# vgreduce VolGroup00 /dev/sdb2 Physical Volume /dev/sdb2 not found in Volume Group VolGroup00 That seems strange. I tried to remove it using the gui tool Logical Volume Management. This gives the message 'Volume Group VolGroup00 does not have enough space to move the data stored on /dev/sdb2. A possible solution would be to add an additional Physical Volume to the Volume Group.' I don't know why it says that. All I want to do is remove a physical volume from a volume group. Now I have run out of ideas. Please can someone explain how I can mount my old FC10 drive in my new FC10 machine. I can't help you fix it, but I think your problem is that you have a clash of Volume Group names. Both your old and new disks are part of a VG called VolGroup00 and I have some ideas how to go about fixing that. I think if you can work out what the UUID of the Volume Group on your F10 disk is, you can run: vgrename F10UUID VolGroup00_tmp You should be able to see the UUID of that Volume Group from F10 with vgdisplay -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Monitor Driver for Sony VGN-FW235J
2009/6/11 thor richards fve...@yahoo.com: I downloaded Fedora 11 and running it on my laptop through a Virtual box by Sun. It's working great but the monitor driver is not loaded, therefore; the resolution is limited. Does anyone know where I can find the video driver for the laptop listed above. I checked the support website at Sony and they don't have it nor do they support Linux. Thanks, tr Monitors don't require drivers, Graphics Cards do require drivers. Am I correct in reading that you are: 1) Running some other OS on your laptop, that is not Fedora 11 (e.g. Windows) 2) Running Fedora 11 in a VirtualBox virtual machine on top of that other OS. If so, then you don't need a Linux driver for your real monitor or indeed graphics card, what you need is a Linux driver for the virtual graphics card that VirtualBox emulates for the VM. If it's anything like other Virtualisation software, then what it emulates is a fairly low-spec graphics card which is not capable of much more than 1024x768 - so you may be stuck with what you have. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: UPS monitor application
2009/6/10 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net: F10 What is the name of the UPS Linux application that you can monitor APC Battery Backup ? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=APC+UPS+Linux -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM Fusion-10-5.rpm
2009/6/10 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net: On 06/10/2009 01:26 PM, g wrote: Jim wrote: Where can I find most updated rpmfusion.rpm's ? i would think that http://rpmfusion.org will have latest. see chart at bottom of page for versions. Thanks for the direction. I see what you mean, they do have a release rpm for non-free.rpm , but not for free.rpm yet for FC11. Huh? What? http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration Leads to: http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines