Re: Update failure

2009-10-07 Thread sandeep Patel
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Adam Hough a...@gradientzero.com wrote:



 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Fabio Jara roninteko...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Patel

 On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 11:58 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 11:37 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
   Hello Patel,
  
   On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:12 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:03 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
  I hope Tim (ignored_mailbox) will not see your advice. He
 recently
 was
  very angry about yum clean all. Now it's forbidden to give such
 advice
  ;-)
 Why is that? that worked for me two times in a row now, why is it
 forbidden? O_o For future reference.
   
The only reason to use yum clean all instead of yum clean
 metadata
is if you're running out of space because of cached packages. Then
 you
get to waste bandwidth (not to mention server resources) downloading
them again.
   
yum clean metadata has solved every problem I've ever had that
 yum
clean all would have solved. I would be interested to hear
 *reasoned*
argument about why this might not always be the case (apart from the
disk space issue already mentioned).
  
   A while ago i try to update my notebook with yum, and for some reason
   there was a conflict between the kmod-nvidia driver and another
 package.
   So i did all the normal methods that the error suggest me, also yum
   clean metadata. But when i try to update the same error got me again,
 so
   i got wild and type yum clean all. Try again and it work! So, that's
 why
   i suggested to do the same. :)
  
  
   I think that with the package-cleanup --problems and the --dupes
   something was still there, so the clean all remove it.
 
  That would indicate a bug in yum clean metadata. If this happens again
  you should report it.
 
  In any case the sequence yum clean metadata and only if that doesn't
  work then yum clean all is perfectly reasonable.
 
   And a short time ago i was having almost the same issue, i asked for
   help in the mailing list, and the problem this time was that the
 package
   have been updated in the mirror but not it's dependencies. So after a
   couple of days the error wasn't there anymore.
 
  I don't see the relevance of this last comment. If the package
  dependencies haven't been updated in a mirror, neither clean all nor
  clean metadata is going to fix the problem.

 This last comment was just for some people to notice that sometimes the
 error seems to be the same if the dependencies aren't ready yet, but
 these errors are not the same.

 
  poc
 

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 So I had a similar issue for the pst week on my desktop machine.  At some
 point updates did not get applied right. Either I accidentally rebooted the
 system while updating or something else messed up.  I could not update
 several of the packages that claimed they were missing files or
 prerequisites.  If you run  rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest and you see
 Unsatisfied dependencies error messages, then you might have the same
 issue I had.

 Now if that is the case you will need to re-download and reinstall the
 software and you might have to force the re-install of those packages.  Now
 you should just have to re-download the dependancies of the packages you
 need to get everything updated to the current level.




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Hello
 After doing 'yum clean all' and yum clean metedata'.there is error
in update..
I am not able to update my systemThe error is as follows:


[r...@dcis ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
adobe-linux-i386 |  951 B
00:00
adobe-linux-i386/primary |  12 kB
00:00
adobe-linux-i386
17/17
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
fedora. Please verify its path and try again

Please suggest me.what shall I do?

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Re: Update failure

2009-10-05 Thread Fabio Jara
Hello Patel,

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 09:56 +0400, Hiisi wrote:
 2009/10/5 Fabio Jara roninteko...@gmail.com:
  Hello Patel,
 
  I personally recommend to clean all of yum
 
  #yum clean all
 
  After that tray to update normally, if it gives you the same error just
  wait. one or two days.
 
  I have had the same error and trust me, you don't want to force the update
  with
 
  #yum update --skip-broken
 
  I did that, and it gave me a conflict with my nvidia drive, kmod-nvidia. The
  problem is probably that a new package have been release and the mirror your
  connecting does not have all the package yet.
 
  Hope my advice help you.
 
 I hope Tim (ignored_mailbox) will not see your advice. He recently was
 very angry about yum clean all. Now it's forbidden to give such advice
 ;-)
Why is that? that worked for me two times in a row now, why is it
forbidden? O_o For future reference.
 
 
  Best regards.
 
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Re: Update failure

2009-10-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:03 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
  I hope Tim (ignored_mailbox) will not see your advice. He recently
 was
  very angry about yum clean all. Now it's forbidden to give such
 advice
  ;-)
 Why is that? that worked for me two times in a row now, why is it
 forbidden? O_o For future reference.

The only reason to use yum clean all instead of yum clean metadata
is if you're running out of space because of cached packages. Then you
get to waste bandwidth (not to mention server resources) downloading
them again.

yum clean metadata has solved every problem I've ever had that yum
clean all would have solved. I would be interested to hear *reasoned*
argument about why this might not always be the case (apart from the
disk space issue already mentioned).

poc

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Re: Update failure

2009-10-05 Thread Bill Davidsen

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:03 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:

I hope Tim (ignored_mailbox) will not see your advice. He recently

was

very angry about yum clean all. Now it's forbidden to give such

advice

;-)

Why is that? that worked for me two times in a row now, why is it
forbidden? O_o For future reference.


The only reason to use yum clean all instead of yum clean metadata
is if you're running out of space because of cached packages. Then you
get to waste bandwidth (not to mention server resources) downloading
them again.

yum clean metadata has solved every problem I've ever had that yum
clean all would have solved. I would be interested to hear *reasoned*
argument about why this might not always be the case (apart from the
disk space issue already mentioned).

I have a single /var/cache/yum filesystem on NFS which allows me to not only 
save disk and bandwidth, but to speed updates considerably. I'm sure using it 
from more than one machine at a time could cause a problem, but it is a useful 
stopgap here. It avoids having a mirror of everything, while pulling down each 
rpm only once, and only those actually used here.


The ideal solution would take care of this, but with only two admins doing 
updates manual sync works for us. I had a tool to do a more perfect job of 
contention control, but it proved to be overkill.


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Re: Update failure

2009-10-05 Thread Fabio Jara
Hello Patel,

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:12 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:03 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
   I hope Tim (ignored_mailbox) will not see your advice. He recently
  was
   very angry about yum clean all. Now it's forbidden to give such
  advice
   ;-)
  Why is that? that worked for me two times in a row now, why is it
  forbidden? O_o For future reference.
 
 The only reason to use yum clean all instead of yum clean metadata
 is if you're running out of space because of cached packages. Then you
 get to waste bandwidth (not to mention server resources) downloading
 them again.
 
 yum clean metadata has solved every problem I've ever had that yum
 clean all would have solved. I would be interested to hear *reasoned*
 argument about why this might not always be the case (apart from the
 disk space issue already mentioned).

A while ago i try to update my notebook with yum, and for some reason
there was a conflict between the kmod-nvidia driver and another package.
So i did all the normal methods that the error suggest me, also yum
clean metadata. But when i try to update the same error got me again, so
i got wild and type yum clean all. Try again and it work! So, that's why
i suggested to do the same. :)


I think that with the package-cleanup --problems and the --dupes
something was still there, so the clean all remove it.

And a short time ago i was having almost the same issue, i asked for
help in the mailing list, and the problem this time was that the package
have been updated in the mirror but not it's dependencies. So after a
couple of days the error wasn't there anymore.


That's my history XD, a very short one.

 poc
 

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Re: Update failure

2009-10-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 11:37 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
 Hello Patel,
 
 On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:12 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:03 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
I hope Tim (ignored_mailbox) will not see your advice. He recently
   was
very angry about yum clean all. Now it's forbidden to give such
   advice
;-)
   Why is that? that worked for me two times in a row now, why is it
   forbidden? O_o For future reference.
  
  The only reason to use yum clean all instead of yum clean metadata
  is if you're running out of space because of cached packages. Then you
  get to waste bandwidth (not to mention server resources) downloading
  them again.
  
  yum clean metadata has solved every problem I've ever had that yum
  clean all would have solved. I would be interested to hear *reasoned*
  argument about why this might not always be the case (apart from the
  disk space issue already mentioned).
 
 A while ago i try to update my notebook with yum, and for some reason
 there was a conflict between the kmod-nvidia driver and another package.
 So i did all the normal methods that the error suggest me, also yum
 clean metadata. But when i try to update the same error got me again, so
 i got wild and type yum clean all. Try again and it work! So, that's why
 i suggested to do the same. :)
 
 
 I think that with the package-cleanup --problems and the --dupes
 something was still there, so the clean all remove it.

That would indicate a bug in yum clean metadata. If this happens again
you should report it.

In any case the sequence yum clean metadata and only if that doesn't
work then yum clean all is perfectly reasonable.

 And a short time ago i was having almost the same issue, i asked for
 help in the mailing list, and the problem this time was that the package
 have been updated in the mirror but not it's dependencies. So after a
 couple of days the error wasn't there anymore.

I don't see the relevance of this last comment. If the package
dependencies haven't been updated in a mirror, neither clean all nor
clean metadata is going to fix the problem.

poc

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Re: Update failure

2009-10-05 Thread Fabio Jara
Hello Patel

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 11:58 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 11:37 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
  Hello Patel,
  
  On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:12 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
   On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:03 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
 I hope Tim (ignored_mailbox) will not see your advice. He recently
was
 very angry about yum clean all. Now it's forbidden to give such
advice
 ;-)
Why is that? that worked for me two times in a row now, why is it
forbidden? O_o For future reference.
   
   The only reason to use yum clean all instead of yum clean metadata
   is if you're running out of space because of cached packages. Then you
   get to waste bandwidth (not to mention server resources) downloading
   them again.
   
   yum clean metadata has solved every problem I've ever had that yum
   clean all would have solved. I would be interested to hear *reasoned*
   argument about why this might not always be the case (apart from the
   disk space issue already mentioned).
  
  A while ago i try to update my notebook with yum, and for some reason
  there was a conflict between the kmod-nvidia driver and another package.
  So i did all the normal methods that the error suggest me, also yum
  clean metadata. But when i try to update the same error got me again, so
  i got wild and type yum clean all. Try again and it work! So, that's why
  i suggested to do the same. :)
  
  
  I think that with the package-cleanup --problems and the --dupes
  something was still there, so the clean all remove it.
 
 That would indicate a bug in yum clean metadata. If this happens again
 you should report it.
 
 In any case the sequence yum clean metadata and only if that doesn't
 work then yum clean all is perfectly reasonable.
 
  And a short time ago i was having almost the same issue, i asked for
  help in the mailing list, and the problem this time was that the package
  have been updated in the mirror but not it's dependencies. So after a
  couple of days the error wasn't there anymore.
 
 I don't see the relevance of this last comment. If the package
 dependencies haven't been updated in a mirror, neither clean all nor
 clean metadata is going to fix the problem.

This last comment was just for some people to notice that sometimes the
error seems to be the same if the dependencies aren't ready yet, but
these errors are not the same.

 
 poc
 

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Re: Update failure

2009-10-05 Thread Adam Hough
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Fabio Jara roninteko...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Patel

 On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 11:58 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 11:37 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
   Hello Patel,
  
   On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:12 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:03 -0400, Fabio Jara wrote:
  I hope Tim (ignored_mailbox) will not see your advice. He
 recently
 was
  very angry about yum clean all. Now it's forbidden to give such
 advice
  ;-)
 Why is that? that worked for me two times in a row now, why is it
 forbidden? O_o For future reference.
   
The only reason to use yum clean all instead of yum clean
 metadata
is if you're running out of space because of cached packages. Then
 you
get to waste bandwidth (not to mention server resources) downloading
them again.
   
yum clean metadata has solved every problem I've ever had that yum
clean all would have solved. I would be interested to hear
 *reasoned*
argument about why this might not always be the case (apart from the
disk space issue already mentioned).
  
   A while ago i try to update my notebook with yum, and for some reason
   there was a conflict between the kmod-nvidia driver and another
 package.
   So i did all the normal methods that the error suggest me, also yum
   clean metadata. But when i try to update the same error got me again,
 so
   i got wild and type yum clean all. Try again and it work! So, that's
 why
   i suggested to do the same. :)
  
  
   I think that with the package-cleanup --problems and the --dupes
   something was still there, so the clean all remove it.
 
  That would indicate a bug in yum clean metadata. If this happens again
  you should report it.
 
  In any case the sequence yum clean metadata and only if that doesn't
  work then yum clean all is perfectly reasonable.
 
   And a short time ago i was having almost the same issue, i asked for
   help in the mailing list, and the problem this time was that the
 package
   have been updated in the mirror but not it's dependencies. So after a
   couple of days the error wasn't there anymore.
 
  I don't see the relevance of this last comment. If the package
  dependencies haven't been updated in a mirror, neither clean all nor
  clean metadata is going to fix the problem.

 This last comment was just for some people to notice that sometimes the
 error seems to be the same if the dependencies aren't ready yet, but
 these errors are not the same.

 
  poc
 

 My best regards.
  
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So I had a similar issue for the pst week on my desktop machine.  At some
point updates did not get applied right. Either I accidentally rebooted the
system while updating or something else messed up.  I could not update
several of the packages that claimed they were missing files or
prerequisites.  If you run  rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest and you see
Unsatisfied dependencies error messages, then you might have the same
issue I had.

Now if that is the case you will need to re-download and reinstall the
software and you might have to force the re-install of those packages.  Now
you should just have to re-download the dependancies of the packages you
need to get everything updated to the current level.
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Re: Update failure

2009-10-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/04/2009 10:48 PM, sandeep Patel wrote:
 Hello everyone
  when i do update in fedora 11(x86_64).then it
 shows error like this

 Please suggest me.what shall i do to get update.

You seem to be hitting a stale mirror.

# yum clean metadata
# yum update

If that doesn't work, try

# yum update --skip-broken

Details at

http://mether.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/preventing-dependency-breakage-part-ii/

Rahul

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Re: Update failure

2009-10-04 Thread Fabio Jara
Hello Patel,

I personally recommend to clean all of yum

#yum clean all

After that tray to update normally, if it gives you the same error just
wait. one or two days.

I have had the same error and trust me, you don't want to force the update
with

#yum update --skip-broken

I did that, and it gave me a conflict with my nvidia drive, kmod-nvidia. The
problem is probably that a new package have been release and the mirror your
connecting does not have all the package yet.

Hope my advice help you.

Best regards.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Rahul Sundaram
sunda...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:

 On 10/04/2009 10:48 PM, sandeep Patel wrote:
  Hello everyone
   when i do update in fedora 11(x86_64).then it
  shows error like this

  Please suggest me.what shall i do to get update.

 You seem to be hitting a stale mirror.

 # yum clean metadata
 # yum update

 If that doesn't work, try

 # yum update --skip-broken

 Details at


 http://mether.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/preventing-dependency-breakage-part-ii/

 Rahul

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Re: Update failure

2009-10-04 Thread Hiisi
2009/10/5 Fabio Jara roninteko...@gmail.com:
 Hello Patel,

 I personally recommend to clean all of yum

 #yum clean all

 After that tray to update normally, if it gives you the same error just
 wait. one or two days.

 I have had the same error and trust me, you don't want to force the update
 with

 #yum update --skip-broken

 I did that, and it gave me a conflict with my nvidia drive, kmod-nvidia. The
 problem is probably that a new package have been release and the mirror your
 connecting does not have all the package yet.

 Hope my advice help you.

I hope Tim (ignored_mailbox) will not see your advice. He recently was
very angry about yum clean all. Now it's forbidden to give such advice
;-)


 Best regards.

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