Re: Feline Interferon
Thanks for all the input. I've been real busy the past couple of days. But I did manage to get Brissle in yesterday and get started on the VO. So today I'll be giving her second shot. So far, no reactions I can see. I pray she's one of the lucky ones to respond. As far as combination therapies, it does look like it's probably redundant. But who knows? Even Virbac admits there is little known about combinations and much about the recommended course is speculation. That gives me some more homework to do. What we tentatively agreed on is to pick up with the Immunoregulin two weeks after the VO ends, but only monthly or biweekly maintenance doses. If I do get to the point of having some VO onhand, I'm wondering what's the best course. I did get a hold of Paolo and he said that he watches real closely for any changes. You definitely dont want to wait for another crash. You just have to be real sensitive to it I guess, especially if it's been a long time since the last cycle. Or if you can afford it, maybe one cycle every 3 or 4 months to avoid the uncertainty? I know vacations aren't recommended with a FeLV cat. But if you do go and it's been a long time since the last cycle, then maybe get a cycle out of the way a couple weeks prior? One thing is probably certain and that is that every cat will be different and require a "refresh" at different intervals. Thanks for listening. I'll keep everyone posted. -Kyle - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Feline Interferon Dear Kyle: Good to hear you are making progress with your vet. It sounds like he/she is a least receptive to new ideas and is willing to learn. I dunno what to suggest about the concurrent use of the VO and Immunogregulin...I don't know enough about what the action either drug is supposed to have on the immune system. If they are supposed to have the same type of action, then it is likely no harm will be done and the treatments are merely redundant. Virbac stated they didn't have or use Immunoregulin there so while they recommended not to use the VO in conjunction with Immunoregulin, they may not really know. I'd want to try and find out more about both drugs to make sure there would not be some harmful interaction. I need to find a text on immunology and learn the terminology so I can read and interpret these tech articles. The term "immunological cascade" is impressive, but just what does that mean? If it means it can start some sort of immunological chain reaction to mount a massive defense that would be welcome. But the question we all want the answer to is can this stuff help repair the damage done to a cat's immune system by the FeLV virus? From what I've read so far, it is not a cure, just another treatment that seems to help some cats in some situations. And of course we are praying that Brissle will be one of those cats it can help. Hang in there! Sally in San Jose
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Wisconsin's Cats Need Your Help Information Petition
This isthe petition for the cats here: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/797408228?ltl=1110750193 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/797408228 There's also some really great information (including places forWisconsin residents to go to to vote for this issue) here at:http:www.alleycatallies.org ATTENTION WISCONSIN RESIDENTSWisconsin's cats need your help!The Conservation Congress in every county of Wisconsin will meet at7:00 pm on Monday, April 11, 2005. At these meetings, residents willbe asked to vote on whether feral cats should be listed as anunprotected species and be legally hunted year round. Wisconsin catsneed you to attend these meetings and vote "NO!"If this measure passes, feral or free-roaming cats will be definedas "any domestic type cat which is not under the owner's directcontrol, or whose owner has not placed a collar on such cat showingit to be their property." This means that any cat that is outside,unattended, and not wearing a collar, could be killed.This proposal puts not only feral and stray cats at risk, but alsoWisconsin's tame cats. As you know, not all owned cats wearcollars.The cats need your help! Vote "NO" on April 11 and get yourfriendsto do the same!MARK YOUR CALENDAR! April 11, 2005 at 7 pm (for locations, pleaseclick here).Spring Hearing Meeting LocationsAdamsCounty Board Room,Adams County Building,400 Main Street,FriendshipAshlandAshland Senior High School,Auditorium,1900 Beaser Ave.,AshlandBarronBarron County Courthouse,Auditorium,330 E. LaSalle Ave.,BarronBayfieldDrummond High School,40 Eastern Ave.,DrummondBrownFranklin Middle School,Auditorium,1234 W. Mason Street,Green BayBuffaloAlma High School Auditorium,S1618 STH 35,AlmaBurnettBurnett Co. Government Center,Room 165,7410 County K,SirenCalumetCalumet County Courthouse,Room 25,206 Court St.,ChiltonChippewaChippewa Falls Middle School,Auditorium A,750 Tropicana Blvd.,Chippewa FallsClarkGreenwood High School,Cafetorium,306 W. Central Ave.,GreenwoodColumbiaColumbia County Courthouse,400 Dewitt St.,PortageCrawfordCrawford County Courthouse,Courtroom,220 N. Beaumont,Prairie du ChienDaneAlliant Energy Center,1919 Alliant Energy Way,MadisonDodgeHoricon City Hall,404 E. Lake Street,HoriconDoorDoor County Court House,A 150, 421 Nebraska Street,Sturgeon BayDouglasSolon Springs High School,8993 E. Balwin Ave.,Solon SpringsDunnDunn County Fish and Game Club,1900 Pine Ave.,MenomonieEau ClaireSouth Middle School,Auditorium,2115 Mitscher Ave.,Eau ClaireFlorenceFlorence Natural Resource Center,Large Conference Room,Highway 101/70,FlorenceFond du LacTheisen Jr. High School,Auditorium,525 E. Pioneer Rd.,Fond du LacForestCrandon High School,Auditorium,9750 USH 8 W,CrandonGrantGrant Co. Youth and Ag Building,Grant Co. Fairgrounds,916 East Elm Street,LancasterGreenMonroe Middle School,Auditorium,1510 13th Street,MonroeGreen LakeGreen Lake High School,Small Gym,612 Mill Street,Green LakeIowaDodgeville High School,Gymnasium,912 West Chapel Street,DodgevilleIronIron County Court House,Main Courtroom,300 Taconite,HurleyJacksonBlack River Falls Middle School,LGI Room,1202 Pierce Street,Black River FallsJeffersonJefferson County Fair Park,Activity Center,503 N. Jackson,JeffersonJuneauOld Courthouse Building,Room # 200,220 East State St.,MaustonKenoshaBristol Grade School,20121 83rd Street,BristolKewauneeKewaunee County Courthouse,Court Room,613 Dodge Street,KewauneeLaCrosseLaCrosse County,Auditorium,Onalaska High School,700 Wilson Street,OnalaskaLafayetteDarlington High School,Cafeteria,11838 Center Hill Road,DarlingtonLangladeLanglade County Multi-purpose Building,1581 Neva Rd.,AntigoLincolnTomahawk Elementary School,Auditorium,1048 E. Kings Rd.,TomahawkManitowocUW-Manitowoc,Theater,705 Viebahn Street,ManitowocMarathonJohn Muir Middle School,Auditorium,1400 West Stewart Ave.,WausauMarinetteCrivitz High School,Auditorium,718 Hall Hay St.,CrivitzMarquetteMontello High School,Community Room,222 Forest Ln.,MontelloMenomineeMenominee County Courthouse,Basement,Courthouse Lane,KeshenaMilwaukeeGreenfield High School,Auditorium,4800 S. 60th Street,GreenfieldMonroeTomah High School,901 Lincoln Ave.,TomahOcontoSuring High School,Cafeteria,411 E. Algoma Street,SuringOneidaJames Williams Junior High,Auditorium,915 Aracia,RhinelanderOutagamieRiverview Middle School,Auditorium,101 Oak Street,KaukaunaOzaukeeWebster Middle School,Cafeteria, W75 N624 Wauwatosa Rd.,CedarburgPepinPepin Co. Government Center-Co.,Board Room,740 7th Ave. W,DurandPierceEllsworth Senior High School,Auditorium,323 Hillcrest, EllsworthPolkUnity High School,Gymnasium,1908 150th St./Hwy. 46,Balsam LakePortageBen Franklin Jr. High School,Auditorium,2000 Polk St.,Stevens PointPriceCourthouse,126 Cherry Street,PhillipsRacineUnion Grove High School,Auditorium,3433 S. Colony Ave.,Union GroveRichlandRichland Co. Courthouse,Courtroom,181 West Seminary Street, Richland CenterRockLoyal Order of Moose Lodge,2701 Rockport Road,JanesvilleRuskLadysmith High
Re: Wisconsin's Cats Need Your Help Information Petition
Thanks for posting this but, I don't think one has to be a state resident to vote on this advisory issue. Only Wisconsin residents can vote for representatives to our Conservation Congress and have to show proof of residency if they want a ballot for that vote. I've been to these annual hearings. When there was an advisory vote on the controversial mourning dove hunt, there were plenty of out of state cars in the parking lot. I asked the DNR wardens if non- Wisconsin residents could vote and they said they could on the advisory issues. I'm guessing this is because people can buy hunting licenses for states other than those in which they reside. I don't think they're going to change this now, because they need the revenue from out of state hunters and tourists, but it could work against them, so far as the cat issue is concerned. Actually, I'm not sure how much of the DNR is for this issue; they know it could be a public relations nightmare and they are hardly the public's favorite state agency. NOW - and I have to check into this - if I remember correctly - the DNR will mail booklets with the advisory questions to those who request them. I will find out if they do this for out of state people and if they can then mail in their votes! I'll let you all know. It would be neat if you all could vote on this. Bonnie in WI. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 13, 2005 5:47 pm Subject: Wisconsin's Cats Need Your Help Information Petition This is the petition for the cats here: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/797408228?ltl=1110750193 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/797408228 There's also some really great information (including places for Wisconsin residents to go to to vote for this issue) here at: http:www.alleycatallies.org ATTENTION WISCONSIN RESIDENTS Wisconsin's cats need your help! The Conservation Congress in every county of Wisconsin will meet at 7:00 pm on Monday, April 11, 2005. At these meetings, residents will be asked to vote on whether feral cats should be listed as an unprotected species and be legally hunted year round. Wisconsin cats need you to attend these meetings and vote NO! If this measure passes, feral or free-roaming cats will be defined as any domestic type cat which is not under the owner's direct control, or whose owner has not placed a collar on such cat showing it to be their property. This means that any cat that is outside, unattended, and not wearing a collar, could be killed. This proposal puts not only feral and stray cats at risk, but also Wisconsin's tame cats. As you know, not all owned cats wear collars. The cats need your help! Vote NO on April 11 and get your friends to do the same! MARK YOUR CALENDAR! April 11, 2005 at 7 pm (for locations, please click here). Spring Hearing Meeting Locations Adams County Board Room, Adams County Building, 400 Main Street, Friendship Ashland Ashland Senior High School, Auditorium, 1900 Beaser Ave., Ashland Barron Barron County Courthouse, Auditorium, 330 E. LaSalle Ave., Barron Bayfield Drummond High School, 40 Eastern Ave., Drummond Brown Franklin Middle School, Auditorium, 1234 W. Mason Street, Green Bay Buffalo Alma High School Auditorium, S1618 STH 35, Alma Burnett Burnett Co. Government Center, Room 165, 7410 County K, Siren Calumet Calumet County Courthouse, Room 25, 206 Court St., Chilton Chippewa Chippewa Falls Middle School, Auditorium A, 750 Tropicana Blvd., Chippewa Falls Clark Greenwood High School, Cafetorium, 306 W. Central Ave., Greenwood Columbia Columbia County Courthouse, 400 Dewitt St., Portage Crawford Crawford County Courthouse, Courtroom, 220 N. Beaumont, Prairie du Chien Dane Alliant Energy Center, 1919 Alliant Energy Way, Madison Dodge Horicon City Hall, 404 E. Lake Street, Horicon Door Door County Court House, A 150, 421 Nebraska Street, Sturgeon Bay Douglas Solon Springs High School, 8993 E. Balwin Ave., Solon Springs Dunn Dunn County Fish and Game Club, 1900 Pine Ave., Menomonie Eau Claire South Middle School, Auditorium, 2115 Mitscher Ave., Eau Claire Florence Florence Natural Resource Center, Large Conference Room, Highway 101/70, Florence Fond du Lac Theisen Jr. High School, Auditorium, 525 E. Pioneer Rd., Fond du Lac Forest Crandon High School, Auditorium, 9750 USH 8 W, Crandon Grant Grant Co. Youth and Ag Building, Grant Co. Fairgrounds, 916 East Elm Street, Lancaster Green Monroe Middle School, Auditorium, 1510 13th Street, Monroe Green Lake Green Lake High School, Small Gym, 612 Mill Street, Green Lake Iowa Dodgeville High School, Gymnasium, 912 West Chapel Street, Dodgeville Iron Iron County Court House, Main Courtroom, 300 Taconite, Hurley Jackson Black River Falls Middle School, LGI Room, 1202
Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.)
I know some people involved in the Trap, Neuter, and Release progtram here. They are always advertising for homes for these ferals and many of them go to family farms. Bonnie in WI - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:43 pm Subject: Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.) Unless you can find a VERY safe place for the ferals and be sure there's someone to take care of them, I tend to agree with PETA. Even if the ferals have someone 'watching out' for them, I'm sure many of them are killed by dogs, hit by cars, shot, etc I think it's a very rough life for most ferals and in many cases it would have been better to put them to sleep. I see their point of view. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe PETA!!! They used to be known as the most radical animal rights group around (at the time that I did belong to them). This is welfarism at its very, very worst. How can a group that says it is an animal rights group advocate catching and killing animals? Isn't the right to live out your life without being killed the most basic of rights? Without that right, what good is any other? They are insane. I stopped contributing to them years ago based on other stances they took that I thought were crazy, but their position on ferals tops the cake. Michelle
Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.)
And I would think these hunters would be shooting themselves in the foot, so to speak if they pass this law, becouse a lot of farmers that alow hunting on their property won't want their barn cats shot...I have know serveral farmers with cats that live around the barn but the farmers are fond of them in their place Tad BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote: I know some people involved in the Trap, Neuter, and Release progtram here. They are always advertising for homes for these ferals and many of them go to family farms. Bonnie in WI - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:43 pm Subject: Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.) Unless you can find a VERY safe place for the ferals and be sure there's someone to take care of them, I tend to agree with PETA. Even if the ferals have someone 'watching out' for them, I'm sure many of them are killed by dogs, hit by cars, shot, etc I think it's a very rough life for most ferals and in many cases it would have been better to put them to sleep. I see their point of view. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe PETA!!! They used to be known as the most radical animal rights group around (at the time that I did belong to them). This is welfarism at its very, very worst. How can a group that says it is an animal rights group advocate catching and killing animals? Isn't the right to live out your life without being killed the most basic of rights? Without that right, what good is any other? They are insane. I stopped contributing to them years ago based on other stances they took that I thought were crazy, but their position on ferals tops the cake. Michelle No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005
Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.)
to finish my thoughtthese farmers will post their property to protect their cats.. Tad BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote: I know some people involved in the Trap, Neuter, and Release progtram here. They are always advertising for homes for these ferals and many of them go to family farms. Bonnie in WI - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:43 pm Subject: Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.) Unless you can find a VERY safe place for the ferals and be sure there's someone to take care of them, I tend to agree with PETA. Even if the ferals have someone 'watching out' for them, I'm sure many of them are killed by dogs, hit by cars, shot, etc I think it's a very rough life for most ferals and in many cases it would have been better to put them to sleep. I see their point of view. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe PETA!!! They used to be known as the most radical animal rights group around (at the time that I did belong to them). This is welfarism at its very, very worst. How can a group that says it is an animal rights group advocate catching and killing animals? Isn't the right to live out your life without being killed the most basic of rights? Without that right, what good is any other? They are insane. I stopped contributing to them years ago based on other stances they took that I thought were crazy, but their position on ferals tops the cake. Michelle No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005
Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.)
I'm not saying all ferals should be trapped and killed. I had a feral cat for years (in the house), and I have 2 feral dogs I trapped (that are still feral) right now. I'm just saying, in my opinion there are some things worse than death. And I've seen animals in horrible shape that were in my opinion, better off to be euthanized than suffer. If a feral is in a dangerous place I think it would rather be euthanized than eaten by dogs or hit by a car if it had a choice tTad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to finish my thoughtthese farmers will post their property to protect their cats..TadBONNIE J KALMBACH wrote: I know some people involved in the Trap, Neuter, and Release progtram here. They are always advertising for homes for these ferals and many of them go to family farms. Bonnie in WI - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:43 pm Subject: Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.) Unless you can find a VERY safe place for the ferals and be sure there's someone to take care of them, I tend to agree with PETA. Even if the ferals have someone 'watching out' for them, I'm sure many of them are killed by dogs, hit by cars, shot, etc I think it's a very rough life for most ferals and in many cases it would have been better to put them to sleep. I see their point of view. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe PETA!!! They used to be known as the most radical animal rights group around (at the time that I did belong to them). This is welfarism at its very, very worst. How can a group that says it is an animal rights group advocate catching and killing animals? Isn't the right to live out your life without being killed the most basic of rights? Without that right, what good is any other? They are insane. I stopped contributing to them years ago based on other stances they took that I thought were crazy, but their position on ferals tops the cake. Michelle No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005
Re: large sheets for bedspreads
I tried covering the bedspreads with a sheet to keep the spread cleaner longer ... the furbabies made a mess of it, rumpling it up the best they could which was quite a bit! Good idea though maybe with less busy cats. Del - Original Message - From: Karolyn Lount To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: Re: Thank you fm Del and Angel Effie May I suggest that when you need to replace bedspreads but large sheetswith a pattern. From a distance they look like a regular bedspread. Theyare also a lot easier to wash. I picked this hint up from a neighbor ofmine that has 10 cats.
RE: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Huntingin WI.)
I do agree with you on some level. When I was feeding my little group of strays-ferals, there were several who showed up that were so sick or injured, trapping was very easy but unfortunately the most humane thing was euthenasia. Its not a good life for a cat on his own and you dont see too many old strays. Just in the two years I was feeding my group, 2 of them simply vanishedsick, injured, Ill never know. TNR programs seem fine as long as there is some sort of plan to feed every day, provide shelter, provide regular med care, etc. Too often it seems to me that some programs are a little haphazard in maintaining these commitments and while the cats may have a short burst of good food, etc., they ultimately are left to their own devices. To me, if youre going to start giving an animal the care it deserves, well its a commitment you cant walk away from. I sort of fell into my little group let me tell you it was no easy feat. I ended up keeping two of them myself (who would take them???) lucked out on homes for another two. But it took 2 years of twice a day feedings, coverage when I was away, vet bills, and on and on. I was lucky to have good friends, that the kitties were in a relatively safe convenient place.. The group that neutered them when I trapped them insisted on returning them to the site saying they were feral. Well, my feral Big Boy is lying sprawled out on my bed right now impatiently waiting to curl up against me when I go to sleep. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Huntingin WI.) I'm not saying all ferals should be trapped and killed. I had a feral cat for years (in the house), and I have 2 feral dogs I trapped (that are still feral) right now. I'm just saying, in my opinion there are some things worse than death. And I've seen animals in horrible shape that were in my opinion, better off to be euthanized than suffer. If a feral is in a dangerous place I think it would rather be euthanized than eaten by dogs or hit by a car if it had a choice t Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to finish my thoughtthese farmers will post their property to protect their cats.. Tad BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote: I know some people involved in the Trap, Neuter, and Release progtram here. They are always advertising for homes for these ferals and many of them go to family farms.Bonnie in WI- Original Message -From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:43 pmSubject: Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.) Unless you can find a VERY safe place for the ferals and be sure there's someone to take care of them, I tend to agree with PETA. Even if the ferals have someone 'watching out' for them, I'm sure many of them are killed by dogs, hit by cars, shot, etc I think it's a very rough life for most ferals and in many cases it would have been better to put them to sleep. I see their point of view. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I can not believe PETA!!! They used to be known as the most radical animal rights group around (at the time that I did belong to them). This is welfarism at its very, very worst. How can a group that says it is an animal rights group advocate catching and killing animals? Isn't the right to live out your life without being killed the most basic of rights? Without that right, what good is any other? They are insane. I stopped contributing to them years ago based on other stances they took that I thought were crazy, but their position on ferals tops the cake.Michelle No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005
Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.)
Yes - last week when this was discussed on Wisconsin Public Radio, an irate farmer called in to say that if this proposal became law, many farmers would close their land to all hunting. Bonnie in WI to finish my thoughtthese farmers will post their property to protect their cats.. Tad BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote: I know some people involved in the Trap, Neuter, and Release progtram here. They are always advertising for homes for these ferals and many of them go to family farms. Bonnie in WI - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:43 pm Subject: Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.) Unless you can find a VERY safe place for the ferals and be sure there's someone to take care of them, I tend to agree with PETA. Even if the ferals have someone 'watching out' for them, I'm sure many of them are killed by dogs, hit by cars, shot, etc I think it's a very rough life for most ferals and in many cases it would have been better to put them to sleep. I see their point of view. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe PETA!!! They used to be known as the most radical animal rights group around (at the time that I did belong to them). This is welfarism at its very, very worst. How can a group that says it is an animal rights group advocate catching and killing animals? Isn't the right to live out your life without being killed the most basic of rights? Without that right, what good is any other? They are insane. I stopped contributing to them years ago based on other stances they took that I thought were crazy, but their position on ferals tops the cake. Michelle No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005
Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.)
I don't believe that hunting cats is in any way humane. OK, maybe if the cat were suffering and it were by injection. But HUNTING? Are all of these hunters such sharp shooters that they would hit their target and the cat would die immediately without feeling anything. I DOUBT IT! Think of how these cats would get shot maybe just in a limb and suffer or shot somewhere very painful but not lethal in which they would suffer and linger for days in severe pain. Doesn't sound humane at all! How sad. KathyBONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - last week when this was discussed on Wisconsin Public Radio, an irate farmer called in to say that if this proposal became law, many farmers would close their land to all hunting. Bonnie in WIto finish my thoughtthese farmers will post their property to protect their cats..TadBONNIE J KALMBACH wrote: I know some people involved in the Trap, Neuter, and Release progtram here. They are always advertising for homes for these ferals and many of them go to family farms. Bonnie in WI - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:43 pm Subject: Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.) Unless you can find a VERY safe place for the ferals and be sure there's someone to take care of them, I tend to agree with PETA. Even if the ferals have someone 'watching out' for them, I'm sure many of them are killed by dogs, hit by cars, shot, etc I think it's a very rough life for most ferals and in many cases it would have been better to put them to sleep. I see their point of view. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe PETA!!! They used to be known as the most radical animal rights group around (at the time that I did belong to them). This is welfarism at its very, very worst. How can a group that says it is an animal rights group advocate catching and killing animals? Isn't the right to live out your life without being killed the most basic of rights? Without that right, what good is any other? They are insane. I stopped contributing to them years ago based on other stances they took that I thought were crazy, but their position on ferals tops the cake. Michelle No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005
