Re: Need advice

2005-09-14 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Michelle,

Do Patches teeth appear to be loose at all? Ketamine might be a way to go without the risk of general anesthesia as long as the extractions don't require actual surgery.

Chappy (FeLV+) was neutered under Ketamine; I didn't want to risk GA with him, but I felt he was really being stressed by being sexually intact. He was fine with the procedure; he was symptomatic and I did ultimately lose him, but he had no problems tolerating Ketamine.

Bleau had an abcessed tooth pulled under Ketamine; he's negative and the tooth was very loose. The Ketamine doesn't keep them out too long and so for a procedure that is under about 15 minutes, it might be something to consider. 

Julie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Thanks, Nina. Lucy is actually doing ok. She has blood in her urine, but it is only visible sometimes, and she seems generally ok. I may wait it out until Friday and do the cystocentisis (urine sample via needle) and the bacteria-sensitive culture. 

As for Patches, my gut says not to do any oral surgery if she is feeling ok, but I really am not sure about that. She could be having effects from the broken teeth that I can not see. But for a 5 year old positive, I am inclined to leave well enough alone for fear of triggering the disease. As you know, though, if the broken teeth are painful or are wicking bacteria into her system, this could trigger the disease too. I had not thought of caps. I think I will do some internet research on whether this is a possibility. Thanks.
Michelle

In a message dated 9/13/2005 1:07:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello Michelle,How is Lucy doing now? How terrifying to have her symptoms be so pronounced and not be able to do anything for her for a week! I know how difficult it is to want to do SOMETHING, and not know what the best course is. The decisions we are forced to make for our oh so dependent loved ones are never easy. I wish I could give you better advice, but all I can say is listen to your intuition. Momma really does know best.As far as Patches goes... If her teeth haven't been bothering her, I'd probably leave them the hell alone. Too bad they can't be filed or capped with out general anesthesia. If the dentist says he thinks they should be pulled, I'd ask about filling/capping them instead. At any rate, she's probably better off going through whatever procedure you think necessary
 while she's healthy. As always, I'm thinking about you and yours, praying for good health for them and clear choices for you.Nina
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8wk old felv pos needs home ASAP

2005-09-14 Thread ferozar01
Hello everyone, sorry i've become strictly a reader, but my b-friend and I are 
in the middle of buying a house and things are s crazy. 

Anyway to the pointthere are 2 8week old positive kittens one male/one 
female at a kill shelter in Rhode Island.  We have a home for the male, but not 
the female.  They have told us that she will be euthanized soon (the end of 
this week?) if she is not placed.  I have contacted a couple other resources 
but have only gotten a bunch of maybes and we'll sees.  So I'm in a tight spot 
i would like to a least have a definitive back up if the homes we usually place 
them in do not come through.  Can anyone help???  Thanx Kristi



Re: Need advice

2005-09-14 Thread Lernermichelle



That's interesting and I am filing that information. Thanks. But her teeth are not loose at all, and apparently the roots of the canines are very very deep.
Michelle

In a message dated 9/14/2005 11:21:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi Michelle,

Do Patches teeth appear to be loose at all? Ketamine might be a way to go without the risk of general anesthesia as long as the extractions don't require actual surgery.

Chappy (FeLV+) was neutered under Ketamine; I didn't want to risk GA with him, but I felt he was really being stressed by being sexually intact. He was fine with the procedure; he was symptomatic and I did ultimately lose him, but he had no problems tolerating Ketamine.

Bleau had an abcessed tooth pulled under Ketamine; he's negative and the tooth was very loose. The Ketamine doesn't keep them out too long and so for a procedure that is under about 15 minutes, it might be something to consider. 

Julie



Re: Re: Need advice

2005-09-14 Thread ferozar01
has anyone suggested prophyphol? I love it for serious anesthesia risk cats. 
Kristi

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/09/14 Wed PM 02:10:13 EDT
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need advice

That's interesting and I am filing that information. Thanks. But her teeth 
are not loose at all, and apparently the roots of the canines are very very 
deep.
Michelle

In a message dated 9/14/2005 11:21:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Michelle,

Do Patches teeth appear to be loose at all?  Ketamine might be a way to go 
without the risk of general anesthesia as long as the extractions don't require 
actual surgery.

Chappy (FeLV+) was neutered under Ketamine; I didn't want to risk GA with 
him, but I felt he was really being stressed by being sexually intact.  He was 
fine with the procedure; he was symptomatic and I did ultimately lose him, but 
he had no problems tolerating Ketamine.

Bleau had an abcessed tooth pulled under Ketamine; he's negative and the 
tooth was very loose.  The Ketamine doesn't keep them out too long and so for a 
procedure that is under about 15 minutes, it might be something to consider.  

Julie






Re: St. Francis Medals--for ALL!

2005-09-14 Thread berniluv
Lora, no, they haven't come yet. I have no idea
why. 8( Luv, Nancy and her MC









Heaven, to me, will never a Heaven be
Unless my pets are there with me!

Don't take your organs to Heaven~~~
Heaven knows we need them here!



Re: OT: To all who have taken in a stray...ie. everyone!

2005-09-14 Thread berniluv
Jen, I just read yourmpoem:it's all of us, isn't
it?? Thanks! 8-)  Luv, Nancy and her MC







Heaven, to me, will never a Heaven be
Unless my pets are there with me!

Don't take your organs to Heaven~~~
Heaven knows we need them here!