Re: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA

2005-11-07 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Ken, I'm crying at your beautiful tribute to your
special Max. You were both blessed to have found each
other and you gave him the best ending possible - at
home, peacefully, surrounded by loved ones.  Our
thoughts and tears are with you.

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Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline
diabetes board. I have immuno regulan coming tomorrow
and will donate it to the first person that I get the
email from.  I wish you all the best of luck and long
lives for the ones you care for.

   Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me
holding him tonight

   Normally I named my animals based on what I think
fits. Max went nameless for a long time as I got to
know him from feeding him outside.  It was a last
resort name as I didn't  have his personality down pat
since he was a stray at the time. If I had known him
better when I named him, it would have been zoid which
would have been short for skitzoid. If I walked the
wrong way, he would growl and  slink away but then
realize it was okay so he would roll and stretch. When
he saw debbie he would hiss until she talked to him,
Once she spoke he melted. The eyes would go soft, the
face would light up and he would go to her and try to
give her a concussion with his head bumps. 
  One thing Max did was wear his emotions on his face
and body and you would know exactly how he felt at all
times. When he wanted to  go outside, it was urgent
and an emergency and he would tell you and his eyes
were narrow and he would sulk. At night, all cats have
to be inside the house and it took a 3 day "grounding'
of Max before he dutifully learned the rules.
 If he wanted to go out late and we wouldn't let
him,we counted on the zoid part. I would sit on the
sofa as he was crying at the door and call him. He
would come running over, strech, roll over and proceed
to play with me totally forgetting that he wanted to
do something else.
 Zoid wouldn't have been a fair name either. Sparkle
maybe because of the sparkles that were in his eyes.
Also because of the way he looked at me with such
faith and trust even after having his trust and heart
broken by the bastards that threw him away. He's
better than me that way.
Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much.
All I had to do was sit on the couch, lean back and
offer my chest and he was up there in 2 seconds
kissing my face and neck.
  I'm sorry we didn't have more time together Max. I'm
sorry for the times I yelled at you. You were so young
and happy.  I'm grateful for what you gave to me and
taught me.  I thank you for the love you always gave
me. Fly free my boy.


 

 



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RE: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



Thanks 
Kerry---yes, agree, I would not have separated them either--that's why I still 
have one neg living with my 1 (remaining pos). They love snuggling 
together.

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On Behalf Of Kerry RoachSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:22 
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contagion Q
Hi Kerry,
I have all my kitties together with Bandy and have since I took him in 
2001...He wasn't tested then but since we found out in July about his Felv and 
Fiv, I couldn't separate them...The others tested neg..except 1 which was Felv + 
with no symptoms...They haven't been vaccinated inat least 10 yrs...and I didn't 
re-vaccinate them now either...I guess it is just a feeling that I go with, I 
don't know...I am not really worried about them getting FIV, but the Felv I 
don't know about either...I have a 2 yr old that is with him too and he is 
negative too and wasn't vaccinated until this summer...In my opinion if the 
kitty has a weakened immune system to begin with then maybe they will contract 
it, I still read about all of it, too and I just don't know what to 
believe...
Kerry and Bandy


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Re: Sub Q fluids

2005-11-07 Thread felv



I believe the vet I worked for was an idiot. Sorry to scare anyone. What's 
REALLY scary, is that she is most likely STILL in business down in 
Tennessee.
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RE: Sub Q fluids

2005-11-07 Thread catatonya
I've used them for years and never heard this either.  I hope when I catch up with everything someone has the answer to this one
 
tHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







Could it be a misunderstanding on a vet’s part – I am on CRF list and I know most of the people use LRS and never heard of this – and they are the first people to warn if this is a problem.. I can forward the email and ask them if you want..
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:37 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Sub Q fluids
 

I haven't followed thread (if any)---should I be alarmed? I'm giving Pookie Lactated Ringer's every 2 days, under skin. How were you told it shd be given Jenn if not under skin? I want to help this little guy not harm him!
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I've used ringer's sub-q lots of times over the past 2-3 years and never had any problem with the skin.  Have never heard of that side effect - and have used on everything from bottle babies to a 19-yr-old.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
I thought you couldn't give lactated ringer's sub-q because it would cause the skinto slough off. The vet I used to work for told me this... to be very careful to notget the lactated ringer's mixed up with the saline, because if you give lactatedringers under the skin, it does serious damage to the tissue, and can make the cat'sskin actually SLOUGH OFF of their body. Maybe she was just trying to scare me intogetting the right bag the first time...Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.htmlAdopt a FIV+ cat:http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world ofdifference for that one animal."~~~I collect KMR
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Re: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread Kerry Roach
Hi Kerry,
I have all my kitties together with Bandy and have since I took him in 2001...He wasn't tested then but since we found out in July about his Felv and Fiv, I couldn't separate them...The others tested neg..except 1 which was Felv + with no symptoms...They haven't been vaccinated inat least 10 yrs...and I didn't re-vaccinate them now either...I guess it is just a feeling that I go with, I don't know...I am not really worried about them getting FIV, but the Felv I don't know about either...I have a 2 yr old that is with him too and he is negative too and wasn't vaccinated until this summer...In my opinion if the kitty has a weakened immune system to begin with then maybe they will contract it, I still read about all of it, too and I just don't know what to believe...
Kerry and Bandy
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Re: need all your prayers - please

2005-11-07 Thread Kerry Roach
Hi Hideyo,
I have been reading that you were having a problem with the animal control...I do understand..
Today in our local paper...it stated we were to only have no more than 3 dogs and 3 cats on our property in the city limits...So believe me I know what you feel...I wish they would understand that we give quality care to our animals and they are part of our family or in my case they are my family...
I am behind you 100% as I know the entire group is...
You are in my prayers...
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RE: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



I'm so 
sorry Ken. Sadly most of us on this list have a good idea of how you are feeling 
right now. You will at least always know you did your best for Max. I'm glad 
your little furball knew what it was to be loved and cared for in his short 
life.
take 
care
Kerry

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On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, November 07, 
2005 8:29 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Max 
2000? Nov 2005 GA
Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline diabetes board. I have 
immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the first person that I get 
the email from.  I wish you all the best of luck and long lives for the 
ones you care for.
   Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me holding him 
tonight
   Normally I named my animals based on what I think fits. Max went 
nameless for a long time as I got to know him from feeding him outside.  It 
was a last resort name as I didn't  have his personality down pat since he 
was a stray at the time. If I had known him better when I named him, it would 
have been zoid which would have been short for skitzoid. If I walked the wrong 
way, he would growl and  slink away but then realize it was okay so he 
would roll and stretch. When he saw debbie he would hiss until she talked to 
him, Once she spoke he melted. The eyes would go soft, the face would light up 
and he would go to her and try to give her a concussion with his head bumps. 
  One thing Max did was wear his emotions on his face and body and you 
would know exactly how he felt at all times. When he wanted to  go outside, 
it was urgent and an emergency and he would tell you and his eyes were narrow 
and he would sulk. At night, all cats have to be inside the house and it took a 
3 day "grounding' of Max before he dutifully learned the rules. If he 
wanted to go out late and we wouldn't let him,we counted on the zoid part. I 
would sit on the sofa as he was crying at the door and call him. He would come 
running over, strech, roll over and proceed to play with me totally forgetting 
that he wanted to do something else. Zoid wouldn't have been a fair 
name either. Sparkle maybe because of the sparkles that were in his eyes. Also 
because of the way he looked at me with such faith and trust even after having 
his trust and heart broken by the bastards that threw him away. He's better than 
me that way.Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much. All I had 
to do was sit on the couch, lean back and offer my chest and he was up there in 
2 seconds kissing my face and neck.  I'm sorry we didn't have more time 
together Max. I'm sorry for the times I yelled at you. You were so young and 
happy.  I'm grateful for what you gave to me and taught me.  I thank 
you for the love you always gave me. Fly free my boy.
 
 
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Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Belinda Sauro
   WOW, that seems awfully steep, can you call around and find a vet 
that will do it cheaper?


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RE: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA

2005-11-07 Thread Chris








No matter what his early years were, Max
was a very lucky little guy to have found you.  And you will have him
forever in your heart….  

 



Chris

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-Original Message-
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
9:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA

 

Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline
diabetes board. I have immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the
first person that I get the email from.  I wish you all the best of luck
and long lives for the ones you care for.

   Max was put to sleep on my bed in my
house with me holding him tonight

   Normally I named my animals based on what
I think fits. Max went nameless for a long time as I got to know him from
feeding him outside.  It was a last resort name as I didn't  have his
personality down pat since he was a stray at the time. If I had known him
better when I named him, it would have been zoid which would have been short
for skitzoid. If I walked the wrong way, he would growl and  slink away
but then realize it was okay so he would roll and stretch. When he saw debbie
he would hiss until she talked to him, Once she spoke he melted. The eyes would
go soft, the face would light up and he would go to her and try to give her a
concussion with his head bumps. 
  One thing Max did was wear his emotions on his face and body and you
would know exactly how he felt at all times. When he wanted to  go
outside, it was urgent and an emergency and he would tell you and his eyes were
narrow and he would sulk. At night, all cats have to be inside the house and it
took a 3 day "grounding' of Max before he dutifully learned the rules.
 If he wanted to go out late and we wouldn't let him,we counted on the
zoid part. I would sit on the sofa as he was crying at the door and call him.
He would come running over, strech, roll over and proceed to play with me
totally forgetting that he wanted to do something else.
 Zoid wouldn't have been a fair name either. Sparkle maybe because of the
sparkles that were in his eyes. Also because of the way he looked at me with
such faith and trust even after having his trust and heart broken by the
bastards that threw him away. He's better than me that way.
Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much. All I had to do was sit
on the couch, lean back and offer my chest and he was up there in 2 seconds
kissing my face and neck.
  I'm sorry we didn't have more time together Max. I'm sorry for the times
I yelled at you. You were so young and happy.  I'm grateful for what you
gave to me and taught me.  I thank you for the love you always gave me.
Fly free my boy.

 

 








Re: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA

2005-11-07 Thread Terri Brown




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  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:28 
  PM
  Subject: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA
  
  Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline diabetes board. I have 
  immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the first person that I 
  get the email from.  I wish you all the best of luck and long lives for 
  the ones you care for.
     Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me holding him 
  tonight
     Normally I named my animals based on what I think fits. Max 
  went nameless for a long time as I got to know him from feeding him 
  outside.  It was a last resort name as I didn't  have his 
  personality down pat since he was a stray at the time. If I had known him 
  better when I named him, it would have been zoid which would have been short 
  for skitzoid. If I walked the wrong way, he would growl and  slink away 
  but then realize it was okay so he would roll and stretch. When he saw debbie 
  he would hiss until she talked to him, Once she spoke he melted. The eyes 
  would go soft, the face would light up and he would go to her and try to give 
  her a concussion with his head bumps.   One thing Max did was wear 
  his emotions on his face and body and you would know exactly how he felt at 
  all times. When he wanted to  go outside, it was urgent and an emergency 
  and he would tell you and his eyes were narrow and he would sulk. At night, 
  all cats have to be inside the house and it took a 3 day "grounding' of Max 
  before he dutifully learned the rules. If he wanted to go out late 
  and we wouldn't let him,we counted on the zoid part. I would sit on the sofa 
  as he was crying at the door and call him. He would come running over, strech, 
  roll over and proceed to play with me totally forgetting that he wanted to do 
  something else. Zoid wouldn't have been a fair name either. Sparkle 
  maybe because of the sparkles that were in his eyes. Also because of the way 
  he looked at me with such faith and trust even after having his trust and 
  heart broken by the bastards that threw him away. He's better than me that 
  way.Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much. All I had to do 
  was sit on the couch, lean back and offer my chest and he was up there in 2 
  seconds kissing my face and neck.  I'm sorry we didn't have more time 
  together Max. I'm sorry for the times I yelled at you. You were so young and 
  happy.  I'm grateful for what you gave to me and taught me.  I thank 
  you for the love you always gave me. Fly free my boy.
   
   


Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA

2005-11-07 Thread optionken

Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline diabetes board. I have immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the first person that I get the email from.  I wish you all the best of luck and long lives for the ones you care for.
   Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me holding him tonight
   Normally I named my animals based on what I think fits. Max went nameless for a long time as I got to know him from feeding him outside.  It was a last resort name as I didn't  have his personality down pat since he was a stray at the time. If I had known him better when I named him, it would have been zoid which would have been short for skitzoid. If I walked the wrong way, he would growl and  slink away but then realize it was okay so he would roll and stretch. When he saw debbie he would hiss until she talked to him, Once she spoke he melted. The eyes would go soft, the face would light up and he would go to her and try to give her a concussion with his head bumps. 
  One thing Max did was wear his emotions on his face and body and you would know exactly how he felt at all times. When he wanted to  go outside, it was urgent and an emergency and he would tell you and his eyes were narrow and he would sulk. At night, all cats have to be inside the house and it took a 3 day "grounding' of Max before he dutifully learned the rules. If he wanted to go out late and we wouldn't let him,we counted on the zoid part. I would sit on the sofa as he was crying at the door and call him. He would come running over, strech, roll over and proceed to play with me totally forgetting that he wanted to do something else. Zoid wouldn't have been a fair name either. Sparkle maybe because of the sparkles that were in his eyes. Also because of the way he looked at me with such faith and trust even after having his trust and heart broken by the bastards that threw him away. He's better than me that way.
Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much. All I had to do was sit on the couch, lean back and offer my chest and he was up there in 2 seconds kissing my face and neck.  I'm sorry we didn't have more time together Max. I'm sorry for the times I yelled at you. You were so young and happy.  I'm grateful for what you gave to me and taught me.  I thank you for the love you always gave me. Fly free my boy.
 
 



RE: RE: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Chris








Cornell University in Itaca is the one that comes off the top of my head… 
Not sure about vet schools in New Jersey….

 



Chris

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-Original Message-
From:
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
6:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: RE: To Ken and Max

 


> anywhere near Vet School

 

 Good idea.  I don't know but will begin
checking. i am in the New york?Jersey area








Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Del Daniels



If you have a place to foster any of your kitties 
temporarily, you might want to do that ASAP.  When do you go to 
court?  Depends on how crappy the law feels that day ... I do know of a man 
in the northeast a year or two ago, the law came in without warning and took 
everyone of his personal and rescue kitties.  By the time he had a lawyer 
to try to get his kitties back, most had been euthed.  Yes, horror story, 
which is why it has stayed with me a long time.  I was not there nor know 
him personally.  From what he said and having read his posts (different 
list) he seemed like a genuine animal caring person.  I realize this will 
intensify your worry and sleeplessness, I am so sorry, but you do have to 
do whatever you can to save your babies.  The real wrath of it is people 
like us who have over the city limit of animals but are devoted caretakers get 
in trouble but people who have even only one pet, neglected and abused, do not 
get caught and the animal suffers.  It really makes me angry.   
Prayers and hugs for you and your babies to be safe.  Wish I could do 
something more for you.
 
Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Hideyo Yamamoto 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:20 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - 
  please!!
  I don't think they will take them away right away.. but if I 
  can't finda home for them.. which I won't --whenever I look a home for 
  them, I endup with more cats --my question is then, what will they 
  do?  Will theytake away from me and eventually kill 
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  On Behalf Of wendySent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:12 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: 
  RE: Need all your prayers - please!!I wouldn't think they could take 
  them away from you;rather, that they give you ample time to place them 
  inother homes.  But if it was me, and I hope I don'toffend anyone 
  by saying this, if they told me I had toget rid of some of my animals, I 
  would say ok, andtake them to my moms until they came back to 
  check,and then like a teenager, I would bring them rightback 
  home.  I've always been a little rebellious likethat.--- 
  Hideyo Yamamoto<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used> 
  to care for all my> cats for the past 10 years and she is 
  actually> overseeing now the vet> section at the animal control 
  division, which I hope> to build> creditability as the letter 
  says how responsible and> caring I am for all> my 
  animals.> > Different officers came to inspect my place a 
  few> times and they were> all very impressed with the set up (I 
  spent $45,000> a couple of years> ago and built facility for my 
  cats in addition to my> main house -> windows everywhere, sky 
  lights, outside enclosures..> etc.. and happy how> well all my 
  animals are taken care of.. but yes I> will prepare for any> 
  possible ways for them to complain.> > I am also going to ask 
  someone I know through> rescuing.. she is with> Animal 
  protection service of my state and she has a> lot of 
  credibility> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am 
  still> very nervous because> they CAN take them away from 
  me..> > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On> Behalf Of 
  wendy> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
  Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!> > Hi 
  Hideyo,> > I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance> 
  troubles.>  I agree with Kerry that having someone else 
  there> as> an advocate for the care you are providing is 
  a> smart> idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof 
  the> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in> the 
  first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,> neighborhood disturbance, 
  whatever their reasons may> be).  Be well prepared, even overly 
  prepared.  This> is> the very reason I hope to one day have 
  some land out> in the country.  The city government won't be 
  able> to> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  
  I> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating> better 
  again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I> hope> that 
  things start looking up again.  In the> meantime,> don't 
  let them get you down.  Keep going strong.> > :)> 
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Re: OT: blue star ointment made RW worse?

2005-11-07 Thread Del Daniels



It is given to FIV+ kitties with ringworm because it is not as damaging to 
their immune system as fulvicin which can kill our FIV+ kitties.  Not that 
either one is a health pill :(
 
Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:45 
  PM
  Subject: Re: OT: blue star ointment made 
  RW worse?
  
  
  In a message dated 11/7/2005 10:38:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Itraconazole.
  
  What is this drug?
  Thanks,
  Michelle


Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread optionken

Just found out from the vet that it is non regenitive anemia and a transfusion would only prolong the inevitable for a shot time. I think I am going to let my boy rest so there is no pain. He won't come to my house so I am going to try to find a vet that will. 
 Thank you all for your kindness and advice. I hope you have the best for all your loved ones.
   Ken



Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Lernermichelle



Also, here is a web link with a list of vet clinics in NJ: http://www.doggeek.com/Vets/New%20Jersey.shtml
 
Michelle


Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Lernermichelle




I do not know where Oradell is.  What part of NJ are you in? People 
are always raving about Red Bank Veterinary Hospital.  There are a few 
Veterinary Referral Centers in NJ too, though I can not remember where they 
are-- but a search on Google for this term and NJ will probably bring them up. 
They are set up like hospitals but only have specialists-- but an internist 
would see and treat Max.
 
I just moved back to NJ and only paid for transfusions in MA, but I feel 
fairly certain you should be able to find someone to do it for about $400.  
I have not found the veterinary prices here to be so much more than Boston so 
far.  And from what others have written, $400 seems the going rate in other 
parts of the country as well. 
 
$1,000 is completely outrageous.
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 11/7/2005 5:49:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- 
  I live in New Jersey. Oradell Animal hospital wanted a grand minimum 
  

 


Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Terri Brown




Ken,
 
Did you call Carnegie Cat Clinic in Princeton?  Try there, or Red Bank 
Animal Hospital.  Might be a hike for you, but both are excellent 
facilities.
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:49 
  PM
  Subject: Re: To Ken and Max
  
  - I live in New Jersey. Oradell Animal hospital wanted a grand 
  minimum 


Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread optionken

- I live in New Jersey. Oradell Animal hospital wanted a grand minimum



Re: OT: blue star ointment made RW worse?

2005-11-07 Thread Lernermichelle




In a message dated 11/7/2005 10:38:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Itraconazole.

What is this drug?
Thanks,
Michelle


Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Lernermichelle




Where are you located? I don't understand the price difference. If you are 
in NYC (the only place I can imagine things being so expensive), maybe you could 
come to NJ for it.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 11/7/2005 5:21:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The largest hospital in the country is here and they want a minimum of 
  $1,000.  Other hospitals here were the same.The 400, even though it would 
  come out of bills suppose to be paid. I would do.

 


Re: RE: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread optionken




> anywhere near Vet School
 
 Good idea.  I don't know but will begin checking. i am in the New york?Jersey area



Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread optionken

Hi
  I know imom through the other board I am on (feline diabetes)and even some of the people who run it and in better times, I have given them money.  I don't feel i could consider it as they supply money monthly to help people take care of diabetic cats. Right now they are struggling  and since it is already in the marrow and his time is already limited, and he may not survive a transfusion, I wouldn't think it's fair. Thanks for the tips 
 



Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread optionken

The largest hospital in the country is here and they want a minimum of $1,000.  Other hospitals here were the same.The 400, even though it would come out of bills suppose to be paid. I would do.



RE: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



I paid 
something like $400 for a transfusion at emergency services in 
Chicago---what shocked me was the extra $250 charged for drawing the blood from 
one of my healthy cats.

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Ken and Max
Hi  A blood transfusion is almost 1000 dollars. I  am totally 
broke. If there was any way, I would get it done but I have no credit left and 
things have been very rough.
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Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Lernermichelle




Besides that being an outrageously high price well beyond anything I have 
ever heard of, there are some online groups that provide money to people who 
cannnot afford treatments for their cats.  I do not know if they would help 
where the outcome is so ambiguous, but if you are interested I can try to dig up 
the contact information. One is called IMOM, I think another is called the 
Feline Veterinary Emergency Fund, or something like that, and the third is a 
program within United Animal Nations.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 11/7/2005 4:49:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi  A blood transfusion is almost 1000 dollars. I  am totally 
  broke. If there was any way, I would get it done but I have no credit left and 
  things have been very rough.

 


Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Lernermichelle



Oh, and 4) the vet who wrote that article on I-R says that I-R has saved 
some cats who other vets would have transfused, even without a transfusion. I 
personally would not take the chance.


Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Lernermichelle




Ken,
   
1) I am surprised no one will type the blood as part of the transfusion. 
That is how it was done for Simon, and the whole transfusion, including typing 
and flushing, was about $400-- and at a large university hospital near 
Boston.  Have you tried looking for a larger hospital?
 
2) They gave him Simon a Benadryl shot prior to the transfusions, I 
believe, in order to counteract a possible allergic reaction. No pred, but he 
was already on pred.
 
3) It is fine to give pred even to a weak animal-- it makes them feel 
stronger, actually.  Very strong steroids can weaken the immune system in 
some cases, but if he is having an auto-immune response  or he has cancer 
he should be on pred anyway. 
 
Michelle
 
 
In a message dated 11/7/2005 4:52:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  . Make sure that  the vet tells you whether or not Max has a 
  responsive  anemia or non-responsive anemia, 
   Will the vet know that from the first blood tests?
   I also understand that the blood should be typed but no one would 
  do it. for less than a grand and I just don't have it.
   Someone said pred should be given before a transfusion, is that 
  true? it hasn't been given yet and wondering of I should get it as weak as he 
  is.
   Also one of the articles said that immuno regulan can be used in 
  lieu of a transfusion, anyone know about that?
  http://www.felineleukemia.org

 


RE: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Chris








WOW!!  I’m not
been keeping up with posts but are you anywhere near Vet School—sometimes
you can get care there by ‘interns’ for substantially less…

 



Chris

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-Original Message-
From:
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On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
5:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: To Ken and Max

 

Hi  A blood transfusion is almost 1000 dollars.
I  am totally broke. If there was any way, I would get it done but I have
no credit left and things have been very rough.








Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread optionken


. Make sure that  the vet tells you whether or not Max has a responsive  anemia or non-responsive anemia, 
 Will the vet know that from the first blood tests?
 I also understand that the blood should be typed but no one would do it. for less than a grand and I just don't have it.
 Someone said pred should be given before a transfusion, is that true? it hasn't been given yet and wondering of I should get it as weak as he is.
 Also one of the articles said that immuno regulan can be used in lieu of a transfusion, anyone know about that?
http://www.felineleukemia.org/opinion.html
 
 



Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread optionken

Hi  A blood transfusion is almost 1000 dollars. I  am totally broke. If there was any way, I would get it done but I have no credit left and things have been very rough.



Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Lernermichelle




I really think he should get a transfusion, but I think it should be 
cross-typed.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 11/7/2005 2:51:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Thank You
   
   You are saying that Cricket hung on for 3 week so far.Good to 
  hear.
   We are scheduled for the immunoregulin tomorrow and since he is so 
  weak and really needs blood, I would like to know if it is something that 
  should be done. Is there anytrhing else I should be doing at this point 
   besides Baytrill and making sure he has some food in him.  His 
  hemocrat was down to 8 and that was last week.  What really scares me is 
  when I pick him up, he cries.
   

 


Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Lernermichelle



Good luck, Hideyo! If you have not already, you should call the Animal 
Legal Defense Fund in CA (they have a website with contact info) and ask for a 
referral to a pro bono attorney in HI to help you at your hearing.
Michelle


RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Kat
Hideyo,
Athena and Artemis are about 6 months now - but they are still kittens.
My vet is on temporary leave (pregnancy) during November, but I hope to
have her spay the girls - probably just after Xmas since I have the week
between Xmas/NewYears off from work.  I really need to get new pics...
They're sooo cute.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:34:17 -0700
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
>
> Hi, Kathy, thank you very much!
> How are the kittens? (maybe now they are too big to be called kittens?)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:29 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
>
> Dear Hideyo,
>
> I'm sending stay strong vibes and will keep my candles lit for you until
> you win this battle.  Better to be over prepared (actually
> no-such-thing)
> that to just passively answer questions as they come.  Definately get
> your
> previous vet's support - in writing - and contact ALDF and maybe even
> Best
> Friends Sanctuary - they've been known to help out too.
>
> Also sending prayers for Ginger...
>
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
> >
> > Hi, everyone - I am in a situations where I need all your prayers!
> >
> > I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control
> came
> > over regarding having the multiple cats at my house.  Well, based on
> the
> > current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit
> (they
> > have a very stupid way to calculate it) - so, now I have to go to a
> > hearing.  According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any
> > objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to
> 15
> > animals  I have to now go to a hearing and present my case -
> > everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won't take
> > my babies away from me!  I don't know what I would do without them!
> >
> >
> > Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to - she sipped
> on
> > Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding... she
> does
> > not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing - I might have to
> > take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see
> > if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain
> > her appetite back very very soon!
> >
> >
> >
> > Again, thank you for all your support!
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread wendy
Man, I feel for you Hideyo.  Some people just don't
have a life and they get into everyone else's business
and cause problems because they don't.  I hate that.  

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Someone anonymously reported me that I have many
> cats - not any type of
> complains regarding that.. as my cats are all
> indoors, they don't bother
> my neighbors or anything.. it's almost like
> "personal" thing against me
> and nothing to do with my animals and that's how I
> started.  And
> actually, I was already given a permit from the city
> last year - so when
> the city contacted me, I told them that I already
> have a permit - then,
> they couldn't find the paper work and the officer
> who gave me a permit
> no longer is the officer and they told me that he
> did not follow the
> correct process (not following the correct ordinance
> as to exactly how
> many cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over
> again.
> 
> I do have a place that I can take my cats
> temporarily - I just have to
> do a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do
> so anyway.  It just
> does not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I
> are not bothering
> anyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they
> care??? If you know
> what I mean.. we don't remove children from a family
> just because they
> have too many children..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of wendy
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
> 
> I have never heard of anyone I know personally
> dealing
> with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for
> sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they
> would
> give you like 30 days to find homes for however many
> over the number they allow you.  Then, at the end of
> 30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment
> to
> come by to do a head count.  After that, I bet they
> don't bother you much and you can bring any kitties
> back that kind people have taken in for you for a
> short time so that you can pass the head count.  I
> hope you have family or good friends nearby that
> will
> help you if it comes to that.  Plus, in the future,
> you don't have to answer the door to anyone from
> animal control if you think they are coming to do a
> head count again.  I doubt they will hassle you
> though.  I wouldn't worry about all this just yet
> though Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick.
> 
> And if they end up allowing you to have your cats,
> then you will have worried for no reason.  How in
> the
> world did this all happen in the first place?  Did
> someone complain about your cats?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread wendy
Ken,

Before I knew something was wrong with Cricket, he
cried when I picked him up as well.  That's when I 
started noticing something was wrong.  Make sure that
the vet tells you whether or not Max has a responsive
anemia or non-responsive anemia, because that is what
tells you what is wrong with Max and the course of
treatment.  In Cricket's case, he has a good prognosis
of responsive anemia because his rbc count was at
7.3%, but he had a reticulocyte count of 8% or so,
which means his body is making new rbc's but he is
having an auto-immune response where his body is
killing the new rbc's.  It doesn't sound good, but
when compared to non-responsive anemia, where an
animal isn't making any new rbc's, it is.  We just
have to try to get Cricket's immune system to stop
killing the new rbc's.  That is why you need to have a
good blood count.  Before you make the decision to
transfuse, you need to know about the type of anemia. 
Max probably needs to be on some sort of steroid or
cortosteroid (might be the same thing, not sure; I've
heard my vet say both things at different times). 
Cricket is on Prednisolone.  I think a lot of kitties
that are anemic are.  Seems to be standard treatment
from what I've read.  Prayer helps too.  And a lot of
love and tender care.  Max will benefit from that a
lot no matter what.  

Hope this helps.
:)
Wendy



 

 





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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Hi, Kathy, thank you very much!
How are the kittens? (maybe now they are too big to be called kittens?)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

Dear Hideyo,

I'm sending stay strong vibes and will keep my candles lit for you until
you win this battle.  Better to be over prepared (actually
no-such-thing)
that to just passively answer questions as they come.  Definately get
your
previous vet's support - in writing - and contact ALDF and maybe even
Best
Friends Sanctuary - they've been known to help out too.

Also sending prayers for Ginger...

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
>
> Hi, everyone - I am in a situations where I need all your prayers!
>
> I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control
came
> over regarding having the multiple cats at my house.  Well, based on
the
> current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit
(they
> have a very stupid way to calculate it) - so, now I have to go to a
> hearing.  According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any
> objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to
15
> animals  I have to now go to a hearing and present my case -
> everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won't take
> my babies away from me!  I don't know what I would do without them!
>
>
> Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to - she sipped
on
> Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding... she
does
> not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing - I might have to
> take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see
> if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain
> her appetite back very very soon!
>
>
>
> Again, thank you for all your support!
>
>





RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Kat
Dear Hideyo,

I'm sending stay strong vibes and will keep my candles lit for you until
you win this battle.  Better to be over prepared (actually no-such-thing)
that to just passively answer questions as they come.  Definately get your
previous vet's support - in writing - and contact ALDF and maybe even Best
Friends Sanctuary - they've been known to help out too.

Also sending prayers for Ginger...

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
>
> Hi, everyone - I am in a situations where I need all your prayers!
>
> I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came
> over regarding having the multiple cats at my house.  Well, based on the
> current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they
> have a very stupid way to calculate it) - so, now I have to go to a
> hearing.  According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any
> objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15
> animals  I have to now go to a hearing and present my case -
> everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won't take
> my babies away from me!  I don't know what I would do without them!
>
>
> Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to - she sipped on
> Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding... she does
> not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing - I might have to
> take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see
> if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain
> her appetite back very very soon!
>
>
>
> Again, thank you for all your support!
>
>



RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Susan Loesch
I don't remember - I think I just went in and described what I wanted.  Comes in different size rolls and it may have been with the roll-up bamboo -type shades or close by.  That is what I got at the same time.  It has been over a year -- the city code people cited my carport for having things on it that weren't designed to go outdoors - like a couple of bookcases.   I was lucky that they didn't walk the whole carport and look in the den windows - and see WAY over the allowed limit of cats.  So I got that plastic stuff and put it over all my den windows - but FAST!Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









What do you call it, do you know?
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:11 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
 

I got some at Home DepotHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type ofadhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from oneside, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted toexplore the option - do you know what I am talking about?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria LaneSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!Think that's what I'd do!GloriaOn Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote:> I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;> rather,
 that they give you ample time to place them in> other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't> offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to> get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and> take them to my moms until they came back to check,> and then like a teenager, I would bring them right> back home. I've always been a little rebellious like> that.>> --- Hideyo Yamamoto> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>>> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used>> to care for all my>> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually>> overseeing now the vet>> section at the animal control division, which I hope>> to build>> creditability as the letter says how responsible and>> caring I am for all>> my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few>>
 times and they were>> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000>> a couple of years>> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my>> main house ->> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..>> etc.. and happy how>> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I>> will prepare for any>> possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through>> rescuing.. she is with>> Animal protection service of my state and she has a>> lot of credibility>> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still>> very nervous because>> they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message->> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On>> Behalf Of wendy>> Sent:
 Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance>> troubles.>> I agree with Kerry that having someone else there>> as>> an advocate for the care you are providing is a>> smart>> idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the>> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in>> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,>> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may>> be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This>> is>> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out>> in the country. The city government won't be able>> to>> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I>> will also say prayers for Ginger to
 begin eating>> better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I>> hope>> that things start looking up again. In the>> meantime,>> don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :)>> Wendy>> >> >> __>> Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005>> http://mail.yahoo.com > __> Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.> http://farechase.yahoo.com>>

Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Sheila208
Hideyo,you will be in my prayers every night. I don't know what I would do if someone tried to take my fur balls. I do believe it would kill me. I  hate to think of the anguish you must be going through. We all will keep positive thoughts and with Gods help everything will turn out fine.  

Sheila in SC


Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Kat
Hi Ken,

Have you looked into a blood transfusion to help get Max over the hump
until the imm kicks in??

Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:50:27 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: To Ken and Max
>
>
> Thank You
>
>
>
>  You are saying that Cricket hung on for 3 week so far.Good to hear.
>
>  We are scheduled for the immunoregulin tomorrow and since he is so weak and 
> really needs blood, I
> would like to know if it is something that should be done. Is there anytrhing 
> else I should be doing
> at this point  besides Baytrill and making sure he has some food in him.  His 
> hemocrat was down to 8
> and that was last week.  What really scares me is when I pick him up, he 
> cries.
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Chris
There is film that comes in rolls--you should be able to buy at any Lowes or
Home Depot...

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 4:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type of
adhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from one
side, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted to
explore the option - do you know what I am talking about?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

Think that's what I'd do!

Gloria


On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote:

> I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;
> rather, that they give you ample time to place them in
> other homes.  But if it was me, and I hope I don't
> offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to
> get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and
> take them to my moms until they came back to check,
> and then like a teenager, I would bring them right
> back home.  I've always been a little rebellious like
> that.
>
> --- Hideyo Yamamoto
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used
>> to care for all my
>> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually
>> overseeing now the vet
>> section at the animal control division, which I hope
>> to build
>> creditability as the letter says how responsible and
>> caring I am for all
>> my animals.
>>
>> Different officers came to inspect my place a few
>> times and they were
>> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000
>> a couple of years
>> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my
>> main house -
>> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..
>> etc.. and happy how
>> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I
>> will prepare for any
>> possible ways for them to complain.
>>
>> I am also going to ask someone I know through
>> rescuing.. she is with
>> Animal protection service of my state and she has a
>> lot of credibility
>> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still
>> very nervous because
>> they CAN take them away from me..
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of wendy
>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
>>
>> Hi Hideyo,
>>
>> I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance
>> troubles.
>>  I agree with Kerry that having someone else there
>> as
>> an advocate for the care you are providing is a
>> smart
>> idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
>> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
>> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
>> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
>> be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This
>> is
>> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
>> in the country.  The city government won't be able
>> to
>> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
>> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
>> better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I
>> hope
>> that things start looking up again.  In the
>> meantime,
>> don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.
>>
>> :)
>> Wendy
>>
>>
>>  
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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








What do you call it, do you know?

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
2:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers
- please!!



 



I got some at Home Depot

Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

On a bit separate note,
do you know where I can get some type of
adhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from one
side, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted to
explore the option - do you know what I am talking about?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

Think that's what I'd do!

Gloria


On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote:

> I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;
> rather, that they give you ample time to place them in
> other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't
> offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to
> get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and
> take them to my moms until they came back to check,
> and then like a teenager, I would bring them right
> back home. I've always been a little rebellious like
> that.
>
> --- Hideyo Yamamoto
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used
>> to care for all my
>> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually
>> overseeing now the vet
>> section at the animal control division, which I hope
>> to build
>> creditability as the letter says how responsible and
>> caring I am for all
>> my animals.
>>
>> Different officers came to inspect my place a few
>> times and they were
>> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000
>> a couple of years
>> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my
>> main house -
>> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..
>> etc.. and happy how
>> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I
>> will prepare for any
>> possible ways for them to complain.
>>
>> I am also going to ask someone I know through
>> rescuing.. she is with
>> Animal protection service of my state and she has a
>> lot of credibility
>> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still
>> very nervous because
>> they CAN take them away from me..
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of wendy
>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
>>
>> Hi Hideyo,
>>
>> I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance
>> troubles.
>> I agree with Kerry that having someone else there
>> as
>> an advocate for the care you are providing is a
>> smart
>> idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
>> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
>> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
>> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
>> be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This
>> is
>> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
>> in the country. The city government won't be able
>> to
>> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I
>> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
>> better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I
>> hope
>> that things start looking up again. In the
>> meantime,
>> don't let them get you down. Keep going strong.
>>
>> :)
>> Wendy
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Susan Loesch
I got some at Home DepotHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type ofadhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from oneside, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted toexplore the option - do you know what I am talking about?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria LaneSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!Think that's what I'd do!GloriaOn Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote:> I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;> rather, that they give you ample time to place them in> other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't> offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had
 to> get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and> take them to my moms until they came back to check,> and then like a teenager, I would bring them right> back home. I've always been a little rebellious like> that.>> --- Hideyo Yamamoto> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>>> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used>> to care for all my>> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually>> overseeing now the vet>> section at the animal control division, which I hope>> to build>> creditability as the letter says how responsible and>> caring I am for all>> my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few>> times and they were>> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000>> a couple of years>> ago and built facility for my cats in
 addition to my>> main house ->> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..>> etc.. and happy how>> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I>> will prepare for any>> possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through>> rescuing.. she is with>> Animal protection service of my state and she has a>> lot of credibility>> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still>> very nervous because>> they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message->> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On>> Behalf Of wendy>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi
 Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance>> troubles.>> I agree with Kerry that having someone else there>> as>> an advocate for the care you are providing is a>> smart>> idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the>> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in>> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,>> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may>> be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This>> is>> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out>> in the country. The city government won't be able>> to>> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I>> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating>> better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I>> hope>> that things start looking up again. In the>>
 meantime,>> don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :)>> Wendy>> >> >> __>> Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005>> http://mail.yahoo.com > __> Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.> http://farechase.yahoo.com>>

Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Gloria Lane
Hey Ken - just wondering if you found another vet... Also, there are  
some other options - have you used interferon alpha?  I give that  
every day to my kitties.  Hope Max is doing well. I'm sending good  
thoughts and prayers for you two.


Gloria


On Nov 7, 2005, at 1:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Wendy

Thank you very much for your post and thoughts. max is going  
downhill rapidly and even though he has been eating, I just don't  
think he will even make it or be strong enough tomorrow for the  
innumoregulin.  I have supplemented his food with iron and pet  
tinic but I am afraid I found out about this too late.  We did have  
a great day Saturday as Max's tail went staraight up in the air as  
I let him outside in 70 degree weather. He also went out Sunday but  
I don't feel it was as good for him.

 I wish  didn't have to work today and could just be with him.

  Thank You again





RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type of
adhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from one
side, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted to
explore the option - do you know what I am talking about?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

Think that's what I'd do!

Gloria


On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote:

> I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;
> rather, that they give you ample time to place them in
> other homes.  But if it was me, and I hope I don't
> offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to
> get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and
> take them to my moms until they came back to check,
> and then like a teenager, I would bring them right
> back home.  I've always been a little rebellious like
> that.
>
> --- Hideyo Yamamoto
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used
>> to care for all my
>> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually
>> overseeing now the vet
>> section at the animal control division, which I hope
>> to build
>> creditability as the letter says how responsible and
>> caring I am for all
>> my animals.
>>
>> Different officers came to inspect my place a few
>> times and they were
>> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000
>> a couple of years
>> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my
>> main house -
>> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..
>> etc.. and happy how
>> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I
>> will prepare for any
>> possible ways for them to complain.
>>
>> I am also going to ask someone I know through
>> rescuing.. she is with
>> Animal protection service of my state and she has a
>> lot of credibility
>> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still
>> very nervous because
>> they CAN take them away from me..
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of wendy
>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
>>
>> Hi Hideyo,
>>
>> I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance
>> troubles.
>>  I agree with Kerry that having someone else there
>> as
>> an advocate for the care you are providing is a
>> smart
>> idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
>> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
>> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
>> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
>> be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This
>> is
>> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
>> in the country.  The city government won't be able
>> to
>> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
>> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
>> better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I
>> hope
>> that things start looking up again.  In the
>> meantime,
>> don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.
>>
>> :)
>> Wendy
>>
>>
>>  
>>  
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Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Gloria Lane

Think that's what I'd do!

Gloria


On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote:


I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;
rather, that they give you ample time to place them in
other homes.  But if it was me, and I hope I don't
offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to
get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and
take them to my moms until they came back to check,
and then like a teenager, I would bring them right
back home.  I've always been a little rebellious like
that.

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used
to care for all my
cats for the past 10 years and she is actually
overseeing now the vet
section at the animal control division, which I hope
to build
creditability as the letter says how responsible and
caring I am for all
my animals.

Different officers came to inspect my place a few
times and they were
all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000
a couple of years
ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my
main house -
windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..
etc.. and happy how
well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I
will prepare for any
possible ways for them to complain.

I am also going to ask someone I know through
rescuing.. she is with
Animal protection service of my state and she has a
lot of credibility
with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still
very nervous because
they CAN take them away from me..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance
troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there
as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a
smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This
is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able
to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I
hope
that things start looking up again.  In the
meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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RE: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



Praying for Max, Ken. I hope he makes it. 
Kerry

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On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, November 07, 
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Ken and Max
Wendy
 
   Thank you very much for your post and thoughts. max is going 
downhill rapidly and even though he has been eating, I just don't think he will 
even make it or be strong enough tomorrow for the innumoregulin.  I have 
supplemented his food with iron and pet tinic but I am afraid I found out about 
this too late.  We did have a great day Saturday as Max's tail went 
staraight up in the air as I let him outside in 70 degree weather. He also went 
out Sunday but I don't feel it was as good for him. 
 I wish  didn't have to work today and could just be with 
him.  
  Thank You again
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Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread optionken

Thank You
 
 You are saying that Cricket hung on for 3 week so far.Good to hear.
 We are scheduled for the immunoregulin tomorrow and since he is so weak and really needs blood, I would like to know if it is something that should be done. Is there anytrhing else I should be doing at this point  besides Baytrill and making sure he has some food in him.  His hemocrat was down to 8 and that was last week.  What really scares me is when I pick him up, he cries.
 
 



RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Someone anonymously reported me that I have many cats - not any type of
complains regarding that.. as my cats are all indoors, they don't bother
my neighbors or anything.. it's almost like "personal" thing against me
and nothing to do with my animals and that's how I started.  And
actually, I was already given a permit from the city last year - so when
the city contacted me, I told them that I already have a permit - then,
they couldn't find the paper work and the officer who gave me a permit
no longer is the officer and they told me that he did not follow the
correct process (not following the correct ordinance as to exactly how
many cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over again.

I do have a place that I can take my cats temporarily - I just have to
do a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do so anyway.  It just
does not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I are not bothering
anyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they care??? If you know
what I mean.. we don't remove children from a family just because they
have too many children..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealing
with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for
sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they would
give you like 30 days to find homes for however many
over the number they allow you.  Then, at the end of
30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment to
come by to do a head count.  After that, I bet they
don't bother you much and you can bring any kitties
back that kind people have taken in for you for a
short time so that you can pass the head count.  I
hope you have family or good friends nearby that will
help you if it comes to that.  Plus, in the future,
you don't have to answer the door to anyone from
animal control if you think they are coming to do a
head count again.  I doubt they will hassle you
though.  I wouldn't worry about all this just yet
though Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. 
And if they end up allowing you to have your cats,
then you will have worried for no reason.  How in the
world did this all happen in the first place?  Did
someone complain about your cats?





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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread wendy
I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealing
with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for
sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they would
give you like 30 days to find homes for however many
over the number they allow you.  Then, at the end of
30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment to
come by to do a head count.  After that, I bet they
don't bother you much and you can bring any kitties
back that kind people have taken in for you for a
short time so that you can pass the head count.  I
hope you have family or good friends nearby that will
help you if it comes to that.  Plus, in the future,
you don't have to answer the door to anyone from
animal control if you think they are coming to do a
head count again.  I doubt they will hassle you
though.  I wouldn't worry about all this just yet
though Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. 
And if they end up allowing you to have your cats,
then you will have worried for no reason.  How in the
world did this all happen in the first place?  Did
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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Hideyo, don't even let yourself think in those terms. If the worst came
to the worst, we are all here to do whatever we can to help you and your
cats find homes.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!


I don't think they will take them away right away.. but if I can't find
a home for them.. which I won't --whenever I look a home for them, I end
up with more cats --my question is then, what will they do?  Will they
take away from me and eventually kill them?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;
rather, that they give you ample time to place them in
other homes.  But if it was me, and I hope I don't
offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to
get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and
take them to my moms until they came back to check,
and then like a teenager, I would bring them right
back home.  I've always been a little rebellious like
that.

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used
> to care for all my
> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually
> overseeing now the vet
> section at the animal control division, which I hope
> to build
> creditability as the letter says how responsible and
> caring I am for all
> my animals.
> 
> Different officers came to inspect my place a few
> times and they were
> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000
> a couple of years
> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my
> main house -
> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..
> etc.. and happy how
> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I
> will prepare for any
> possible ways for them to complain.
> 
> I am also going to ask someone I know through
> rescuing.. she is with
> Animal protection service of my state and she has a
> lot of credibility
> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still
> very nervous because
> they CAN take them away from me..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of wendy
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
> 
> Hi Hideyo,
> 
> I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance
> troubles.
>  I agree with Kerry that having someone else there
> as
> an advocate for the care you are providing is a
> smart
> idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
> be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This
> is
> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
> in the country.  The city government won't be able
> to
> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
> better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I
> hope
> that things start looking up again.  In the
> meantime,
> don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.
> 
> :)
> Wendy
> 
> 
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Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread wendy
Ken,

I know EXACTLY how you feel about not wanting to be at
work.  All you can do is think and worry about your
kitty.  I know it's hard.  Just hang in there.  I
thought the same thing about Cricket, that he wouldn't
survive long.  Part of it was because I had filled my
head with so much information, I talked myself into
believing that Cricket was a goner in just a few days,
but he has been hanging in there for 3 weeks now. 
Nina said it the best.  She said that you do all you
can do, and the rest is up to kitty and the powers
that be.  Once I read that, I let some of the pressure
off myself and stopped worrying so much.  I can't
control things.  What's going to happen is going to
happen, but I will do everything I can to help Cricket
survive.  I am little more at peace now that I went
through the depression and what I would consider
grieving these past few weeks.  It was very hard at
first though.  So just hang in there.  

:)
Wendy

P.S.  Cricket loves going outside too.  I am hoping he
is strong enough to go outside this afternoon when I
get home.  I think it helps with his depression.



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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I don't think they will take them away right away.. but if I can't find
a home for them.. which I won't --whenever I look a home for them, I end
up with more cats --my question is then, what will they do?  Will they
take away from me and eventually kill them?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;
rather, that they give you ample time to place them in
other homes.  But if it was me, and I hope I don't
offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to
get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and
take them to my moms until they came back to check,
and then like a teenager, I would bring them right
back home.  I've always been a little rebellious like
that.

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used
> to care for all my
> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually
> overseeing now the vet
> section at the animal control division, which I hope
> to build
> creditability as the letter says how responsible and
> caring I am for all
> my animals.
> 
> Different officers came to inspect my place a few
> times and they were
> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000
> a couple of years
> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my
> main house -
> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..
> etc.. and happy how
> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I
> will prepare for any
> possible ways for them to complain.
> 
> I am also going to ask someone I know through
> rescuing.. she is with
> Animal protection service of my state and she has a
> lot of credibility
> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still
> very nervous because
> they CAN take them away from me..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of wendy
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
> 
> Hi Hideyo,
> 
> I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance
> troubles.
>  I agree with Kerry that having someone else there
> as
> an advocate for the care you are providing is a
> smart
> idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
> be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This
> is
> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
> in the country.  The city government won't be able
> to
> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
> better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I
> hope
> that things start looking up again.  In the
> meantime,
> don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.
> 
> :)
> Wendy
> 
> 
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Re: Sub Q fluids

2005-11-07 Thread Gloria Lane
I don't know where my vet got it - think from someone who works at  
the local university med center.  But it's just a flexible plastic  
tube, about 6 or 8 inches.  It has  one end that allows me to fit it  
on the syringe.  And the other end is for the needle.  I think it's  
aactually called an "extension".  It means I can move the syringe,  
without the needle moving in the kitty, so more comfortable.


Gloria



On Nov 7, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

Hi, Gloria.. that's interesting.. can you explain (or draw a  
picture for

me) how you do it?  I got the part where you use syringe, but did not
get the part about a flexible plastic extension.. I give my Hannibal
fluid every couple of days for CRF and always try to find a way  
which is

more comfortable for him.. thanks, bunch!

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Sub Q fluids

I also ordered  a box of Terumo needles, size 20 .

I also administer it a little differently.  I have a 60 cc syringe,  
and

have a flexible plastic "extension" that I put the needle on at the
end.   Give the cat more "wiggle" room.  I fill the syringe, and  
use it

(not the bag) to give fluids.   I can "push" it more, if kitty is
amenable
to it.  Just something I started doing a few years ago, and still  
prefer


that method.

Cats react differently to sub-q, also.  I tried to give my Lancelot
sub-q a
few days ago, he's a bit dehydrated and has these weird persistent
allergies.  And he really acted like it was killing him.  So no  
more sub

q
for him.  For some cats, there's no reaction at all.

Gloria

At 12:53 PM 11/1/2005, you wrote:

I feel a little dumb here.  I thought sub-q meant you
would inject fluid in a needle under the cat's skin.
I didn't know you were hooking up a whole IV bag to
the cat!  I assume this is done to rehydrate an
animal.  I don't think Cricket would go for this.  Can
anyone give me the simple explanation of sub q?  Thanks!



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Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread Nina
Aww Ken, I'm so sorry Max isn't doing well.  I know how hard it is to be 
away from them at times like these.  I'm praying that he bounces back 
with the IR and that you have lots more wonderful times together.

Much love to you and Max,
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Wendy

 

   Thank you very much for your post and thoughts. max is going 
downhill rapidly and even though he has been eating, I just don't 
think he will even make it or be strong enough tomorrow for the 
innumoregulin.  I have supplemented his food with iron and pet tinic 
but I am afraid I found out about this too late.  We did have a great 
day Saturday as Max's tail went staraight up in the air as I let him 
outside in 70 degree weather. He also went out Sunday but I don't feel 
it was as good for him.


 I wish  didn't have to work today and could just be with him. 


  Thank You again






RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread wendy
I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;
rather, that they give you ample time to place them in
other homes.  But if it was me, and I hope I don't
offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to
get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and
take them to my moms until they came back to check,
and then like a teenager, I would bring them right
back home.  I've always been a little rebellious like
that.

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used
> to care for all my
> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually
> overseeing now the vet
> section at the animal control division, which I hope
> to build
> creditability as the letter says how responsible and
> caring I am for all
> my animals.
> 
> Different officers came to inspect my place a few
> times and they were
> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000
> a couple of years
> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my
> main house -
> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..
> etc.. and happy how
> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I
> will prepare for any
> possible ways for them to complain.
> 
> I am also going to ask someone I know through
> rescuing.. she is with
> Animal protection service of my state and she has a
> lot of credibility
> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still
> very nervous because
> they CAN take them away from me..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of wendy
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
> 
> Hi Hideyo,
> 
> I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance
> troubles.
>  I agree with Kerry that having someone else there
> as
> an advocate for the care you are providing is a
> smart
> idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
> be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This
> is
> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
> in the country.  The city government won't be able
> to
> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
> better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I
> hope
> that things start looking up again.  In the
> meantime,
> don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.
> 
> :)
> Wendy
> 
> 
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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








That’s a good idea – I am not
a good writer… but I have an idea, and Greg is a lawyer and writes really
well.. so maybe he can edit it … I have 5 days to request a hearing from
this Wednesdays that’s when an office will bring me all the paper work I
need to request a hearing, but I am not sure how long before the hearing..  I
will write to ALDF to see if they have any suggestions.

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
12:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers
- please!!



 

Hideyo,
The suggestions given sound good, being prepared with pictures of your habitat,
receipts for medical and housing costs etc.  Could you write up some sort
of acknowledgment of your general good deeds in caring for the cats?  Get
as many signatures on it as possible, vets, neighbors, etc.  How much time
do you have before the hearing?  I know the folks on this list would be
willing to sign too, if we can figure out how to do that logistically.  I
know from stories you've posted on the list that you've run across some
influential people while doing rescue work, government officials, media people,
get their signatures and short statements about who you are and what you do
too.  Some sound legal advice is in order as well, here's the link to
ALDF, (Animal Legal Defense Fund).  Write or call them and tell them
what's going on and ask how they can help.  They have attorneys that do
pro bono work for good folks like you.
http://www.aldf.org/

Blessings and prayers for you, your situation and for sweet little
Ginger.  She's been refusing to eat for what seems like a long time now,
maybe you had better get her into the vet, just in case they can figure out
why.
Nina

Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:



Hi, everyone – I am in a situations where I
need all your prayers!

I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the
animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house.
 Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even
with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) – so, now I
have to go to a hearing.  According to the city attorney, unless my
neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to
have up to 15 animals  I have to now go to a hearing and present my case
– everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won’t
take my babies away from me!  I don’t know what I would do without
them!

 

Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed
to – she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force
feeding… she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing
– I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite
back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will
gain her appetite back very very soon! 

 

Again, thank you for all your support!








Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Nina




Hideyo,
The suggestions given sound good, being prepared with pictures of your
habitat, receipts for medical and housing costs etc.  Could you write
up some sort of acknowledgment of your general good deeds in caring for
the cats?  Get as many signatures on it as possible, vets, neighbors,
etc.  How much time do you have before the hearing?  I know the folks
on this list would be willing to sign too, if we can figure out how to
do that logistically.  I know from stories you've posted on the list
that you've run across some influential people while doing rescue work,
government officials, media people, get their signatures and short
statements about who you are and what you do too.  Some sound legal
advice is in order as well, here's the link to ALDF, (Animal Legal
Defense Fund).  Write or call them and tell them what's going on and
ask how they can help.  They have attorneys that do pro bono work for
good folks like you.
http://www.aldf.org/

Blessings and prayers for you, your situation and for sweet little
Ginger.  She's been refusing to eat for what seems like a long time
now, maybe you had better get her into the vet, just in case they can
figure out why.
Nina

Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Hi, everyone – I am in a
situations where I need all your
prayers!
  I mentioned to you a
couple of weeks ago, where the animal control
came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house.  Well, based
on the current
ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a
very stupid
way to calculate it) – so, now I have to go to a hearing.  According to
the
city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one
does), they
usually allow you to have up to 15 animals  I have to now go to a
hearing and
present my case – everyone, please pray that everything will go well
and they
won’t take my babies away from me!  I don’t know what I would do
without
them!
   
  Also, Ginger is still not
eating like she is supposed to –
she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force
feeding…
she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing – I might
have
to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to
see if anything
is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite
back very
very soon! 
   
  Again, thank you for all
your support!
  





Re: To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread optionken

Wendy
 
   Thank you very much for your post and thoughts. max is going downhill rapidly and even though he has been eating, I just don't think he will even make it or be strong enough tomorrow for the innumoregulin.  I have supplemented his food with iron and pet tinic but I am afraid I found out about this too late.  We did have a great day Saturday as Max's tail went staraight up in the air as I let him outside in 70 degree weather. He also went out Sunday but I don't feel it was as good for him. 
 I wish  didn't have to work today and could just be with him.  
  Thank You again



RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.

Ah, yes, good idea. Very good idea. Pix of building, indoors and out,
plus cats shown in the building, plus closeups of cats to show how well
they are. Plus receipts of all the meds you buy including homeopathic.
Hideyo, no one cares for cats better than you---I hope some of those
people sitting in "judgment" have a cat or two---you can be sure they
will be secretly thinking, "wow, this woman takes far, far better care
of/spends far more $$ on her cats than I do". But they'll never tell you
that.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!


Yep.. sorry, I knew that's what you meant.. 
Last time, when they came over, they wanted to meet every cat I had (I
gave a list of their names),,, just so that they know they look
healthy..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

I meant pix of the facility from all angles showing all the work you had
done. (The cats will be in the pix anyway)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!


I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great
ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually
want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful
people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour
facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the
work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are
the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of .
I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you
could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it.
Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head
of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should
be).
Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!


Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my
cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet
section at the animal control division, which I hope to build
creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all
my animals.

Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were
all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years
ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house -
windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how
well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any
possible ways for them to complain.

I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with
Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility
with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because
they CAN take them away from me..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I hope
that things start looking up again.  In the meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Yep.. sorry, I knew that's what you meant.. 
Last time, when they came over, they wanted to meet every cat I had (I
gave a list of their names),,, just so that they know they look
healthy..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

I meant pix of the facility from all angles showing all the work you had
done. (The cats will be in the pix anyway)

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I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great
ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually
want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think?

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Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful
people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour
facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the
work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are
the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of .
I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you
could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it.
Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head
of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should
be).
Kerry

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!


Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my
cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet
section at the animal control division, which I hope to build
creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all
my animals.

Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were
all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years
ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house -
windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how
well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any
possible ways for them to complain.

I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with
Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility
with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because
they CAN take them away from me..

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I hope
that things start looking up again.  In the meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I meant pix of the facility from all angles showing all the work you had
done. (The cats will be in the pix anyway)

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Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!


I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great
ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually
want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful
people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour
facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the
work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are
the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of .
I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you
could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it.
Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head
of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should
be).
Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!


Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my
cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet
section at the animal control division, which I hope to build
creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all
my animals.

Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were
all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years
ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house -
windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how
well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any
possible ways for them to complain.

I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with
Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility
with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because
they CAN take them away from me..

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I hope
that things start looking up again.  In the meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Bring everything you can. Better to have than not to have with you on
the day. I've never been to one of those but I'd say beter to come
prepared to make a factual presentation--as opposed to simply passively
answering their Qs ???
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Yamamoto
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Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!


There is a case in PA, where the city gave a lady a citation for having
like 25 to 35 cats and she actually appealed to the PA state court and
actually the state court ruled against the city's ruling saying that,
"having numerous number of cats itself merely do not prove the presence
of "nuisance", - should I bring a stuff like that??? What other factual
information should I bring??

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

Hear hear. That's a very sound suggestion--going in overly prepared,
with facts (as opposed to appealing to their compassionate side---which
they may well not possess in any case).

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!


Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I hope
that things start looking up again.  In the meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great
ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually
want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful
people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour
facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the
work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are
the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of .
I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you
could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it.
Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head
of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should
be).
Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!


Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my
cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet
section at the animal control division, which I hope to build
creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all
my animals.

Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were
all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years
ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house -
windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how
well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any
possible ways for them to complain.

I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with
Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility
with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because
they CAN take them away from me..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I hope
that things start looking up again.  In the meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Thank you very much!!

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
12:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers
- please!!



 

Many prayers for you and your situation -- and of course for sweet
Ginger!








Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Susan Loesch
Many prayers for you and your situation -- and of course for sweet Ginger!

RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful
people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour
facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the
work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are
the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of .
I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you
could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it.
Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head
of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should
be).
Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!


Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my
cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet
section at the animal control division, which I hope to build
creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all
my animals.

Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were
all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years
ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house -
windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how
well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any
possible ways for them to complain.

I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with
Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility
with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because
they CAN take them away from me..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I hope
that things start looking up again.  In the meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
There is a case in PA, where the city gave a lady a citation for having
like 25 to 35 cats and she actually appealed to the PA state court and
actually the state court ruled against the city's ruling saying that,
"having numerous number of cats itself merely do not prove the presence
of "nuisance", - should I bring a stuff like that??? What other factual
information should I bring??

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

Hear hear. That's a very sound suggestion--going in overly prepared,
with facts (as opposed to appealing to their compassionate side---which
they may well not possess in any case).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!


Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I hope
that things start looking up again.  In the meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Sub Q fluids

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Hi, Gloria.. that's interesting.. can you explain (or draw a picture for
me) how you do it?  I got the part where you use syringe, but did not
get the part about a flexible plastic extension.. I give my Hannibal
fluid every couple of days for CRF and always try to find a way which is
more comfortable for him.. thanks, bunch!

Hideyo

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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Sub Q fluids

I also ordered  a box of Terumo needles, size 20 .

I also administer it a little differently.  I have a 60 cc syringe, and 
have a flexible plastic "extension" that I put the needle on at the 
end.   Give the cat more "wiggle" room.  I fill the syringe, and use it 
(not the bag) to give fluids.   I can "push" it more, if kitty is
amenable 
to it.  Just something I started doing a few years ago, and still prefer

that method.

Cats react differently to sub-q, also.  I tried to give my Lancelot
sub-q a 
few days ago, he's a bit dehydrated and has these weird persistent 
allergies.  And he really acted like it was killing him.  So no more sub
q 
for him.  For some cats, there's no reaction at all.

Gloria

At 12:53 PM 11/1/2005, you wrote:
>I feel a little dumb here.  I thought sub-q meant you
>would inject fluid in a needle under the cat's skin.
>I didn't know you were hooking up a whole IV bag to
>the cat!  I assume this is done to rehydrate an
>animal.  I don't think Cricket would go for this.  Can
>anyone give me the simple explanation of sub q?  Thanks!
>
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Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread gblane
Hideyo, I'm so sorry - lots of prayers and good vibes for you and your 
babies.  Gloria



At 12:31 PM 11/7/2005, you wrote:

Hi, everyone – I am in a situations where I need all your prayers!
I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came 
over regarding having the multiple cats at my house.  Well, based on the 
current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they 
have a very stupid way to calculate it) – so, now I have to go to a 
hearing.  According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any 
objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 
animals  I have to now go to a hearing and present my case – everyone, 
please pray that everything will go well and they won’t take my babies 
away from me!  I don’t know what I would do without them!


Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to – she sipped on 
Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding… she does not 
act like she is sick at all, which is blessing – I might have to take her 
for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything 
is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite 
back very very soon!


Again, thank you for all your support!





Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Barb Moermond
Sending GLOW and love and support your way and tolerance and acceptance to the holders of the hearing  Your babies need you as much as you need them!!
 
<<>Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Hi, everyone – I am in a situations where I need all your prayers!
I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house.  Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) – so, now I have to go to a hearing.  According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals  I have to now go to a hearing and present my case – everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won’t take my babies away from me!  I don’t know what I would do without them!
 
Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to – she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding… she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing – I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! 
 
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Re: Sub Q fluids

2005-11-07 Thread gblane

I also ordered  a box of Terumo needles, size 20 .

I also administer it a little differently.  I have a 60 cc syringe, and 
have a flexible plastic "extension" that I put the needle on at the 
end.   Give the cat more "wiggle" room.  I fill the syringe, and use it 
(not the bag) to give fluids.   I can "push" it more, if kitty is amenable 
to it.  Just something I started doing a few years ago, and still prefer 
that method.


Cats react differently to sub-q, also.  I tried to give my Lancelot sub-q a 
few days ago, he's a bit dehydrated and has these weird persistent 
allergies.  And he really acted like it was killing him.  So no more sub q 
for him.  For some cats, there's no reaction at all.


Gloria

At 12:53 PM 11/1/2005, you wrote:

I feel a little dumb here.  I thought sub-q meant you
would inject fluid in a needle under the cat's skin.
I didn't know you were hooking up a whole IV bag to
the cat!  I assume this is done to rehydrate an
animal.  I don't think Cricket would go for this.  Can
anyone give me the simple explanation of sub q?  Thanks!



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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Hear hear. That's a very sound suggestion--going in overly prepared,
with facts (as opposed to appealing to their compassionate side---which
they may well not possess in any case).

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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!


Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I hope
that things start looking up again.  In the meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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Re: Sub Q fluids

2005-11-07 Thread gblane
Amazing the difference in vets.  I've also used lactated ringer's sub-q a 
whole lot, it's what several vets have given me, and I never had a cat 
slough off any skin.


Gloria


At 11:22 AM 11/4/2005, you wrote:
I thought you couldn't give lactated ringer's sub-q because it would cause 
the skin
to slough off. The vet I used to work for told me this... to be very 
careful to not
get the lactated ringer's mixed up with the saline, because if you give 
lactated
ringers under the skin, it does serious damage to the tissue, and can make 
the cat's
skin actually SLOUGH OFF of their body. Maybe she was just trying to scare 
me into

getting the right bag the first time...

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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my
cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet
section at the animal control division, which I hope to build
creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all
my animals.

Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were
all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years
ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house -
windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how
well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any
possible ways for them to complain.

I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with
Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility
with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because
they CAN take them away from me..

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I hope
that things start looking up again.  In the meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Title: Message








Thank you, Kerry – I appreciate your
support! I am so nervous and anxious that I can’t sleep at night.

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
11:42 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers
- please!!



 



Dearest Hideyo





You can be sure everyone on this list will
be willing the hearing to go your way, and for compassion--your compassion
towards animals in need--to win the day.





Can you have others there, like a
vet, or an animal advocate, to speak as well in support of you?
(You care for more than 15 cats, so I'm presuming you are fighting to keep all
of them.)





When is the hearing?





Praying for Ginger regaining her appetite
too. She sure is an amazing kitty if she's behaving normally is every
other way.  





Bless you Hideyo for everything you do for
those that can't speak for themselves.





much love and support, Kerry





 





 





 



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
12:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Need all your prayers -
please!!

Hi, everyone – I am in a situations where I need all
your prayers!

I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal
control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house.  Well,
based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit
(they have a very stupid way to calculate it) – so, now I have to go to a
hearing.  According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any
objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals
 I have to now go to a hearing and present my case – everyone, please
pray that everything will go well and they won’t take my babies away from
me!  I don’t know what I would do without them!

 

Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to
– she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force
feeding… she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing
– I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her
appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that
she will gain her appetite back very very soon! 

 

Again, thank you for all your support!






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Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread wendy
Hi Hideyo,

I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.
 I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as
an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart
idea.  Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the
very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in
the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,
neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may
be).  Be well prepared, even overly prepared.  This is
the very reason I hope to one day have some land out
in the country.  The city government won't be able to
tell me what to do with my life or my furballs.  I
will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating
better again.  I am sorry for your troubles and I hope
that things start looking up again.  In the meantime,
don't let them get you down.  Keep going strong.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



Dearest Hideyo
You 
can be sure everyone on this list will be willing the hearing to go your way, 
and for compassion--your compassion towards animals in need--to win the 
day.
Can 
you have others there, like a vet, or an animal advocate, to speak as 
well in support of you? (You care for more than 15 cats, so I'm 
presuming you are fighting to keep all of them.)
When 
is the hearing?
Praying for Ginger regaining her appetite too. She sure 
is an amazing kitty if she's behaving normally is every other 
way.  
Bless 
you Hideyo for everything you do for those that can't speak for 
themselves.
much 
love and support, Kerry
 
 
 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 
12:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Need all 
your prayers - please!!

Hi, everyone – I am in a situations 
where I need all your prayers!
I mentioned to you a couple of weeks 
ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my 
house.  Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals 
even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) – so, now I 
have to go to a hearing.  According to the city attorney, unless my 
neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have 
up to 15 animals  I have to now go to a hearing and present my case – 
everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won’t take my babies 
away from me!  I don’t know what I would do without 
them!
 
Also, Ginger is still not eating 
like she is supposed to – she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am 
still force feeding… she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing 
– I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite 
back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will 
gain her appetite back very very soon! 
 
Again, thank you for all your 
support!
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Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Hi, everyone – I am in a situations where I need all your
prayers!

I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control
came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house.  Well, based on the current
ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid
way to calculate it) – so, now I have to go to a hearing.  According to the
city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they
usually allow you to have up to 15 animals  I have to now go to a hearing and
present my case – everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they
won’t take my babies away from me!  I don’t know what I would do without
them!

 

Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to –
she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding…
she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing – I might have
to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything
is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very
very soon! 

 

Again, thank you for all your support!








RE: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks Gloria--- you mix yours--- but you say they're "indoors", meaning
they don't come into contact with unknown cats who may have Felv. Ok, so
next Q, and this time it's pertinent to my own dilemma: 

Is your thinking that your healthy cats have successfully stayed neg
while living alongside your positives. BUT if you introduce a new FeLV
(or if they came into contact ouside with a positive) that might
change--they might contract FeLV that's a different strain??

I ask because I have one negative living with my one positive, away from
the other negs.
I worry about fostering another FeLV in case the neg *becomes* positive
thru the new cat.
(I'm also harboring a tiny hope that either the pos cat may have become
neg in recent months OR his July 2004 test may have been wrong---he has
always seemed so healthy while with me...(he was in the hospital before
he came to me but was reported not to be positive then.)

All responses/opinions welcome!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q


I don't vaccinate my negs - They have had vacs a long time back, but  
they're healthy and indoor, so I don't do vacs.

Gloria


On Nov 7, 2005, at 9:03 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

> Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats  
> involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether  
> they are vaccinated against FeLV.
>
> Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who  
> mixes):
> Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs?
>
> Kerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Felvtalk- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q
>
>
> Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything
> including food dishes, have for over 10 years.  All of my negatives  
> are
> still negative.
>
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RE: Update on Cricket 11-07-05

2005-11-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I am so proud of Cricket!  I will be praying that he will continue to
get better!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:37 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Update on Cricket 11-07-05

Wow, glad to hear he's hanging in there and that his gums are pink -  
and glad to hear that you had a break in Corpus Christi!

Gloria


On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:23 AM, wendy wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> I hope your weekend was a relaxing one.  I did manage
> to relax in Corpus Christi some, which I needed.  My
> mom, aunt, and cousin went by the house on Saturday
> and gave Cricket his Prednisolone and Cyproheptadine
> and loved on him quite a bit.  My best friend came by
> Sunday and gave him his Prednisolone.  I got home last
> night and gave him his meds and he drank quite a bit
> of tuna juice.  I force fed him baby food this
> morning.  I could kick myself because I told the vet
> to call in a prescrip in liquid form, because Cricket
> takes liquid better than pills, but the stuff smells
> and tastes horrible and he gags on it (did you know
> you could fill a prescrip for an animal at
> Walmart?!!!-I thought pharmacies were for people
> medicine only).  The vet didn't have time to get the
> cream for his ear compounded before I left for the
> weekend, so I'm working on getting that today.  When I
> got home, Cricket was very weak.  He probably didn't
> eat or drink much while I was gone, but I think if I
> can get his strength back up with good food and water,
> he will be fine.  One wonderful thing: I noticed as I
> was giving him his meds he has some pink back in his
> gums, so his body must have stopped or slowed killing
> the red blood cells!  Hallelujah!  If we can just get
> him over this hump, I think he might get that virus
> back into remission.  He seems to be hanging in there
> and fighting.  A million thanks and blessings again to
> all of you who help, encourage, and listen to everyone
> here on this webtalk page.
>
> :)
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Re: Update on Cricket 11-07-05

2005-11-07 Thread Gloria Lane
Wow, glad to hear he's hanging in there and that his gums are pink -  
and glad to hear that you had a break in Corpus Christi!


Gloria


On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:23 AM, wendy wrote:


Hi Guys,

I hope your weekend was a relaxing one.  I did manage
to relax in Corpus Christi some, which I needed.  My
mom, aunt, and cousin went by the house on Saturday
and gave Cricket his Prednisolone and Cyproheptadine
and loved on him quite a bit.  My best friend came by
Sunday and gave him his Prednisolone.  I got home last
night and gave him his meds and he drank quite a bit
of tuna juice.  I force fed him baby food this
morning.  I could kick myself because I told the vet
to call in a prescrip in liquid form, because Cricket
takes liquid better than pills, but the stuff smells
and tastes horrible and he gags on it (did you know
you could fill a prescrip for an animal at
Walmart?!!!-I thought pharmacies were for people
medicine only).  The vet didn't have time to get the
cream for his ear compounded before I left for the
weekend, so I'm working on getting that today.  When I
got home, Cricket was very weak.  He probably didn't
eat or drink much while I was gone, but I think if I
can get his strength back up with good food and water,
he will be fine.  One wonderful thing: I noticed as I
was giving him his meds he has some pink back in his
gums, so his body must have stopped or slowed killing
the red blood cells!  Hallelujah!  If we can just get
him over this hump, I think he might get that virus
back into remission.  He seems to be hanging in there
and fighting.  A million thanks and blessings again to
all of you who help, encourage, and listen to everyone
here on this webtalk page.

:)
Wendy




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Re: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread Gloria Lane
I don't vaccinate my negs - They have had vacs a long time back, but  
they're healthy and indoor, so I don't do vacs.


Gloria


On Nov 7, 2005, at 9:03 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats  
involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether  
they are vaccinated against FeLV.


Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who  
mixes):

Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs?

Kerry

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q


Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything
including food dishes, have for over 10 years.  All of my negatives  
are

still negative.

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To Ken and Max

2005-11-07 Thread wendy
Hi Ken,

My name is Wendy.  Welcome to the group and I hope it
is as wonderful a source for you as it has been for
me.  You and I have very similar situations right now.
 My kitty Cricket has been hanging in there for the
past three weeks.  To be honest, I haven't seen a
marked improvement in Cricket since he has been on
ImmunoRegulin, and I think he got depressed when I
went out of town this weekend and didn't eat or drink
much, so I'm just trying to get his strength back up. 
Cricket is on Prednisolone.  I am also trying to give
him Cyproheptadine for appetite stimulation, but he
doesn't like the taste of it at all and gags on it. 
Like you, I struggled with the idea of a transfusion,
but the cost is just too much.  Shoot, if I knew how
to do it myself, I would.  I have enough cats to
choose from as donors.  lol.  I want to encourage you
to continue hoping and praying for Max's recovery. 
Our little furballs gain strength from us, so don't
give up.  I will keep Max in my prayers.  Keep us
posted on his health.

:)
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Re: OT: blue star ointment made RW worse?

2005-11-07 Thread felv



Here's an idea... glue some of those Soft Paw nail caps on her BACK feet, 
that would work!
http://www.softpaws.com/ 
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving 
one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of 
difference for that one 
animal."~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 
If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to 
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Re: OT: blue star ointment made RW worse?

2005-11-07 Thread Del Daniels



Oh, yes, I am on two FIV lists (6 years) but 
my FIV+ are on Itraconazole.  Emily is negative for FIV/FeLV.  Her 
eyes are okay, don't care about fur loss, she does have two mountain range 
scabs and other scabs; this am an oozy area and she whacks at it with her back 
foot ... told her that was a no-no.  If no improvement in another day she 
will begin an abx.  I am oh-so ambivalent about continuing the fulvicin ... 
it seems to do no good and yet would it be worse if they were not on it ... no 
one can answer that.  
 
Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:37 
  PM
  Subject: Re: OT: blue star ointment made 
  RW worse?
  
  How bad is her face now? Does she have open wounds, or is it 
  just irritated and hairless? I speak from personal experience... losing 
  hair is not that bad of a thing, my Mythic cat's allergies are so bad he is 
  often half bald... on his entire body. It will grow back eventually (RW is 
  temporary, unlike my poor Mythic's allergies, which are chronic). I would only 
  worry a lot if it is causing her to get irritated in her eyes (like eruptions 
  on the inside of the eye lids), or if it is open wounds. From what I have 
  heard, some of the treatments for RW are 10 times more dangerous than the 
  condition itself. On the FIV+ list a few months back there was a RW 
  discussion, and it was noted that the medication you said your cats are on (I 
  don't recall the name now, but I recognized it in your email) has been proven 
  to kill FIV cats. FELV is not that much different from FIV in regards to 
  immune system responses. You could join that group and ask them there for more 
  info... I don't recall the details now. It's http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FivCats/ 
  Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
  a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt 
  a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/"Saving 
  one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of 
  difference for that one 
  animal."~~~I 
  collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
  must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
  collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a 
  free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for 
  Bazil!
   
  If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to 
  send them to!
  
  

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Re: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread felv




Here's a Q that I keep meaning to 
ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT 
vaccinating your negs? 
I did in the past. When I moved up north, from Arkansas, 
none of my cats had ever been vaccinated against anything. Moogie (the FELV+) 
was born while in AR. I did not find out she was positive until over a year 
later, when she first became ill. She had been mixed with the others all that 
time, NONE of them ever vaccinated. All of the negatives that I had at that 
time STILL test negative to this day. (though they have all been vaccinated 
ONCE against FELV [when we first found out Moogie had it, my vet advised the 
vaccine for the others] and 3 times with the standard 3-way feline combo 
vaccines, plus rabies since then). 
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving 
one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of 
difference for that one 
animal."~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 
If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to 
send them to!
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Re: Website for Disabled Pets

2005-11-07 Thread felv



I have quite a few similar sites on my webpage as well:
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html (scroll 
down to handicapped and special needs section)
 
Some of my links are bad, I know, I am lacking time to do through 
updates!
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html  Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving 
one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of 
difference for that one 
animal."~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 
If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to 
send them to!
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Update on Cricket 11-07-05

2005-11-07 Thread wendy
Hi Guys,

I hope your weekend was a relaxing one.  I did manage
to relax in Corpus Christi some, which I needed.  My
mom, aunt, and cousin went by the house on Saturday
and gave Cricket his Prednisolone and Cyproheptadine
and loved on him quite a bit.  My best friend came by
Sunday and gave him his Prednisolone.  I got home last
night and gave him his meds and he drank quite a bit
of tuna juice.  I force fed him baby food this
morning.  I could kick myself because I told the vet
to call in a prescrip in liquid form, because Cricket
takes liquid better than pills, but the stuff smells
and tastes horrible and he gags on it (did you know
you could fill a prescrip for an animal at
Walmart?!!!-I thought pharmacies were for people
medicine only).  The vet didn't have time to get the
cream for his ear compounded before I left for the
weekend, so I'm working on getting that today.  When I
got home, Cricket was very weak.  He probably didn't
eat or drink much while I was gone, but I think if I
can get his strength back up with good food and water,
he will be fine.  One wonderful thing: I noticed as I
was giving him his meds he has some pink back in his
gums, so his body must have stopped or slowed killing
the red blood cells!  Hallelujah!  If we can just get
him over this hump, I think he might get that virus
back into remission.  He seems to be hanging in there
and fighting.  A million thanks and blessings again to
all of you who help, encourage, and listen to everyone
here on this webtalk page.

:)
Wendy




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RE: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread Chris
Title: RE: risk of contagion Q









Well,
I vaccinate my 3 negs now but they were all exposed  to one of my pos for
several years before I knew she was pos.  I got them all as kittens so
they were exposed at a very early age—shared food, litter, groomed each
other and all those other things cats do!  All tested neg starting last
year….

 



Chris

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005
10:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: risk of contagion Q

 

Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know
about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether
they are vaccinated against FeLV.

Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and
everyone else who mixes): 
Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your
negs? 

Kerry 

-Original Message- 
From:
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Of Belinda Sauro 
Sent:
Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM 
To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject:
Re: risk of contagion Q 

 

    Bailey (my positive) and all of
his housemates share everything 
including
food dishes, have for over 10 years.  All of my negatives are 
still
negative. 

-- 
 Belinda

Happiness
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Re: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread Belinda Sauro

   Hi Kerry,
  My negatives are all vaccinated, this is what has worked for us for 
10 years so I won't change anything.  It is my understanding though that 
a healthy, adult cat with a healthy immune system would probably be OK.


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RE: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread Susan Loesch
No.  I'd say a young adult.  A year, maybe, give or take a month or two either way -- at the time I trapped her."MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Susan---that's very interesting. How old was the feral kitty at the time. Not a kitten, I'm thinking?

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:22 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: risk of contagion Q
I have done that but not on purpose!  I had a feral cat in a carrier in my living room where I had maybe 1/2 dozen feline leukemia positive cats and kittens at the time.  She got away from me and hid it the room - and was there for a full 9 months before I was able to catch her.  Ate and drank from the same bowls, used the same litterbox, slept together.  She was not  vaccinated and when I caught her and had her spayed she was tested - totally negative.  It was at that point I decided that the disease might not be as easily transmitted as it has a reputation for being.  
 
I let my negatives and positives mix part of the time and if I did not have foster cats from a rescue group would do it all the time."MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against FeLV.
Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs? 
Kerry 
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q 
    Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything including food dishes, have for over 10 years.  All of my negatives are still negative. 
--  Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... 
Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com 
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RE: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



Susan---that's very interesting. How old was the feral 
kitty at the time. Not a kitten, I'm thinking?

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:22 
AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: risk of 
contagion Q
I have done that but not on purpose!  I had a feral cat in a carrier 
in my living room where I had maybe 1/2 dozen feline leukemia positive cats and 
kittens at the time.  She got away from me and hid it the room - and was 
there for a full 9 months before I was able to catch her.  Ate and drank 
from the same bowls, used the same litterbox, slept together.  She was 
not  vaccinated and when I caught her and had her spayed she was tested - 
totally negative.  It was at that point I decided that the disease might 
not be as easily transmitted as it has a reputation for being.  
 
I let my negatives and positives mix part of the time and if I did not have 
foster cats from a rescue group would do it all the 
time."MacKenzie, Kerry N." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  Belinda, Gloria, Nina, 
  Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the 
  positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against 
FeLV.
  Here's a Q that I keep meaning to 
  ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT 
  vaccinating your negs? 
  Kerry 
  -Original 
  Message- From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro 
  Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 
  8:56 AM To: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q 
      Bailey (my 
  positive) and all of his housemates share everything including food dishes, have for over 10 
  years.  All of my negatives are still negative. 
  --  Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats 
  ... 
  Be-Mi-Kitties ... 
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RE: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread Susan Loesch
I have done that but not on purpose!  I had a feral cat in a carrier in my living room where I had maybe 1/2 dozen feline leukemia positive cats and kittens at the time.  She got away from me and hid it the room - and was there for a full 9 months before I was able to catch her.  Ate and drank from the same bowls, used the same litterbox, slept together.  She was not  vaccinated and when I caught her and had her spayed she was tested - totally negative.  It was at that point I decided that the disease might not be as easily transmitted as it has a reputation for being.  
 
I let my negatives and positives mix part of the time and if I did not have foster cats from a rescue group would do it all the time."MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against FeLV.
Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs? 
Kerry 
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q 
    Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything including food dishes, have for over 10 years.  All of my negatives are still negative. 
--  Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... 
Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com 
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RE: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: RE: risk of contagion Q






Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against FeLV.

Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes): 

Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs?


Kerry


-Original Message-

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q



    Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything 

including food dishes, have for over 10 years.  All of my negatives are 

still negative.


-- 

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Happiness is being owned by cats ...


Be-Mi-Kitties ...

http://www.bemikitties.com


Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens

http://adopt.bemikitties.com


FeLV Candle Light Service

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Re: risk of contagion Q

2005-11-07 Thread Belinda Sauro
   Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything 
including food dishes, have for over 10 years.  All of my negatives are 
still negative.


--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

FeLV Candle Light Service
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Re: Emilio/Frito -- fundraising idea?

2005-11-07 Thread Gloria Lane

Nancy, that's GREAT!  Good for you!

Gloria


On Nov 6, 2005, at 5:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Crissy, in my opinion, Frito and Emilio should
stay in their home! I personally have 16 cats, 3
of whom are positive now and several others in
the past who have sadly lost the battle. All
share each others lives closely, and NO ONE has
ever caught this illness. Get your older cats
vaccinated; if Frito hasn't aleady caught the
virus, he very likely won't, and if he does,
well, then you have 2 cats with leukemia. I have
2 girls who came to me with it, at 9 and 4
months of age, and threw it off at 12/7 months
and are free at 13/5 years later. Never give
up!! Please reconsider letting ther babies stay.
Luv, Nancy and her MC




Website for Disabled Pets

2005-11-07 Thread maimaipg



A friend sent me this website.  There are lots of 
aids for animals who are disabled plus a lot of information that may be useful 
both for dogs and cats.
 
http://www.handicappedpets.com