Re: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA
Oh Ken, I'm crying at your beautiful tribute to your special Max. You were both blessed to have found each other and you gave him the best ending possible - at home, peacefully, surrounded by loved ones. Our thoughts and tears are with you. <>>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline diabetes board. I have immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the first person that I get the email from. I wish you all the best of luck and long lives for the ones you care for. Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me holding him tonight Normally I named my animals based on what I think fits. Max went nameless for a long time as I got to know him from feeding him outside. It was a last resort name as I didn't have his personality down pat since he was a stray at the time. If I had known him better when I named him, it would have been zoid which would have been short for skitzoid. If I walked the wrong way, he would growl and slink away but then realize it was okay so he would roll and stretch. When he saw debbie he would hiss until she talked to him, Once she spoke he melted. The eyes would go soft, the face would light up and he would go to her and try to give her a concussion with his head bumps. One thing Max did was wear his emotions on his face and body and you would know exactly how he felt at all times. When he wanted to go outside, it was urgent and an emergency and he would tell you and his eyes were narrow and he would sulk. At night, all cats have to be inside the house and it took a 3 day "grounding' of Max before he dutifully learned the rules. If he wanted to go out late and we wouldn't let him,we counted on the zoid part. I would sit on the sofa as he was crying at the door and call him. He would come running over, strech, roll over and proceed to play with me totally forgetting that he wanted to do something else. Zoid wouldn't have been a fair name either. Sparkle maybe because of the sparkles that were in his eyes. Also because of the way he looked at me with such faith and trust even after having his trust and heart broken by the bastards that threw him away. He's better than me that way. Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much. All I had to do was sit on the couch, lean back and offer my chest and he was up there in 2 seconds kissing my face and neck. I'm sorry we didn't have more time together Max. I'm sorry for the times I yelled at you. You were so young and happy. I'm grateful for what you gave to me and taught me. I thank you for the love you always gave me. Fly free my boy. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: risk of contagion Q
Title: Message Thanks Kerry---yes, agree, I would not have separated them either--that's why I still have one neg living with my 1 (remaining pos). They love snuggling together. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry RoachSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:22 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: risk of contagion Q Hi Kerry, I have all my kitties together with Bandy and have since I took him in 2001...He wasn't tested then but since we found out in July about his Felv and Fiv, I couldn't separate them...The others tested neg..except 1 which was Felv + with no symptoms...They haven't been vaccinated inat least 10 yrs...and I didn't re-vaccinate them now either...I guess it is just a feeling that I go with, I don't know...I am not really worried about them getting FIV, but the Felv I don't know about either...I have a 2 yr old that is with him too and he is negative too and wasn't vaccinated until this summer...In my opinion if the kitty has a weakened immune system to begin with then maybe they will contract it, I still read about all of it, too and I just don't know what to believe... Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Sub Q fluids
I believe the vet I worked for was an idiot. Sorry to scare anyone. What's REALLY scary, is that she is most likely STILL in business down in Tennessee. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal."~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005
RE: Sub Q fluids
I've used them for years and never heard this either. I hope when I catch up with everything someone has the answer to this one tHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Could it be a misunderstanding on a vets part I am on CRF list and I know most of the people use LRS and never heard of this and they are the first people to warn if this is a problem.. I can forward the email and ask them if you want.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:37 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Sub Q fluids I haven't followed thread (if any)---should I be alarmed? I'm giving Pookie Lactated Ringer's every 2 days, under skin. How were you told it shd be given Jenn if not under skin? I want to help this little guy not harm him! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Friday, November 04, 2005 11:30 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Sub Q fluids I've used ringer's sub-q lots of times over the past 2-3 years and never had any problem with the skin. Have never heard of that side effect - and have used on everything from bottle babies to a 19-yr-old.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you couldn't give lactated ringer's sub-q because it would cause the skinto slough off. The vet I used to work for told me this... to be very careful to notget the lactated ringer's mixed up with the saline, because if you give lactatedringers under the skin, it does serious damage to the tissue, and can make the cat'sskin actually SLOUGH OFF of their body. Maybe she was just trying to scare me intogetting the right bag the first time...Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.htmlAdopt a FIV+ cat:http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world ofdifference for that one animal."~~~I collect KMR kitten ! formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who mustlive on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until sheearns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send themto!-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/2005=00 IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: risk of contagion Q
Hi Kerry, I have all my kitties together with Bandy and have since I took him in 2001...He wasn't tested then but since we found out in July about his Felv and Fiv, I couldn't separate them...The others tested neg..except 1 which was Felv + with no symptoms...They haven't been vaccinated inat least 10 yrs...and I didn't re-vaccinate them now either...I guess it is just a feeling that I go with, I don't know...I am not really worried about them getting FIV, but the Felv I don't know about either...I have a 2 yr old that is with him too and he is negative too and wasn't vaccinated until this summer...In my opinion if the kitty has a weakened immune system to begin with then maybe they will contract it, I still read about all of it, too and I just don't know what to believe... Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: need all your prayers - please
Hi Hideyo, I have been reading that you were having a problem with the animal control...I do understand.. Today in our local paper...it stated we were to only have no more than 3 dogs and 3 cats on our property in the city limits...So believe me I know what you feel...I wish they would understand that we give quality care to our animals and they are part of our family or in my case they are my family... I am behind you 100% as I know the entire group is... You are in my prayers... Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
RE: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA
Title: Message I'm so sorry Ken. Sadly most of us on this list have a good idea of how you are feeling right now. You will at least always know you did your best for Max. I'm glad your little furball knew what it was to be loved and cared for in his short life. take care Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:29 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline diabetes board. I have immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the first person that I get the email from. I wish you all the best of luck and long lives for the ones you care for. Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me holding him tonight Normally I named my animals based on what I think fits. Max went nameless for a long time as I got to know him from feeding him outside. It was a last resort name as I didn't have his personality down pat since he was a stray at the time. If I had known him better when I named him, it would have been zoid which would have been short for skitzoid. If I walked the wrong way, he would growl and slink away but then realize it was okay so he would roll and stretch. When he saw debbie he would hiss until she talked to him, Once she spoke he melted. The eyes would go soft, the face would light up and he would go to her and try to give her a concussion with his head bumps. One thing Max did was wear his emotions on his face and body and you would know exactly how he felt at all times. When he wanted to go outside, it was urgent and an emergency and he would tell you and his eyes were narrow and he would sulk. At night, all cats have to be inside the house and it took a 3 day "grounding' of Max before he dutifully learned the rules. If he wanted to go out late and we wouldn't let him,we counted on the zoid part. I would sit on the sofa as he was crying at the door and call him. He would come running over, strech, roll over and proceed to play with me totally forgetting that he wanted to do something else. Zoid wouldn't have been a fair name either. Sparkle maybe because of the sparkles that were in his eyes. Also because of the way he looked at me with such faith and trust even after having his trust and heart broken by the bastards that threw him away. He's better than me that way.Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much. All I had to do was sit on the couch, lean back and offer my chest and he was up there in 2 seconds kissing my face and neck. I'm sorry we didn't have more time together Max. I'm sorry for the times I yelled at you. You were so young and happy. I'm grateful for what you gave to me and taught me. I thank you for the love you always gave me. Fly free my boy. =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: To Ken and Max
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RE: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA
No matter what his early years were, Max was a very lucky little guy to have found you. And you will have him forever in your heart…. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline diabetes board. I have immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the first person that I get the email from. I wish you all the best of luck and long lives for the ones you care for. Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me holding him tonight Normally I named my animals based on what I think fits. Max went nameless for a long time as I got to know him from feeding him outside. It was a last resort name as I didn't have his personality down pat since he was a stray at the time. If I had known him better when I named him, it would have been zoid which would have been short for skitzoid. If I walked the wrong way, he would growl and slink away but then realize it was okay so he would roll and stretch. When he saw debbie he would hiss until she talked to him, Once she spoke he melted. The eyes would go soft, the face would light up and he would go to her and try to give her a concussion with his head bumps. One thing Max did was wear his emotions on his face and body and you would know exactly how he felt at all times. When he wanted to go outside, it was urgent and an emergency and he would tell you and his eyes were narrow and he would sulk. At night, all cats have to be inside the house and it took a 3 day "grounding' of Max before he dutifully learned the rules. If he wanted to go out late and we wouldn't let him,we counted on the zoid part. I would sit on the sofa as he was crying at the door and call him. He would come running over, strech, roll over and proceed to play with me totally forgetting that he wanted to do something else. Zoid wouldn't have been a fair name either. Sparkle maybe because of the sparkles that were in his eyes. Also because of the way he looked at me with such faith and trust even after having his trust and heart broken by the bastards that threw him away. He's better than me that way. Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much. All I had to do was sit on the couch, lean back and offer my chest and he was up there in 2 seconds kissing my face and neck. I'm sorry we didn't have more time together Max. I'm sorry for the times I yelled at you. You were so young and happy. I'm grateful for what you gave to me and taught me. I thank you for the love you always gave me. Fly free my boy.
Re: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA
Goodnight, sweet Max... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:28 PM Subject: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline diabetes board. I have immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the first person that I get the email from. I wish you all the best of luck and long lives for the ones you care for. Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me holding him tonight Normally I named my animals based on what I think fits. Max went nameless for a long time as I got to know him from feeding him outside. It was a last resort name as I didn't have his personality down pat since he was a stray at the time. If I had known him better when I named him, it would have been zoid which would have been short for skitzoid. If I walked the wrong way, he would growl and slink away but then realize it was okay so he would roll and stretch. When he saw debbie he would hiss until she talked to him, Once she spoke he melted. The eyes would go soft, the face would light up and he would go to her and try to give her a concussion with his head bumps. One thing Max did was wear his emotions on his face and body and you would know exactly how he felt at all times. When he wanted to go outside, it was urgent and an emergency and he would tell you and his eyes were narrow and he would sulk. At night, all cats have to be inside the house and it took a 3 day "grounding' of Max before he dutifully learned the rules. If he wanted to go out late and we wouldn't let him,we counted on the zoid part. I would sit on the sofa as he was crying at the door and call him. He would come running over, strech, roll over and proceed to play with me totally forgetting that he wanted to do something else. Zoid wouldn't have been a fair name either. Sparkle maybe because of the sparkles that were in his eyes. Also because of the way he looked at me with such faith and trust even after having his trust and heart broken by the bastards that threw him away. He's better than me that way.Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much. All I had to do was sit on the couch, lean back and offer my chest and he was up there in 2 seconds kissing my face and neck. I'm sorry we didn't have more time together Max. I'm sorry for the times I yelled at you. You were so young and happy. I'm grateful for what you gave to me and taught me. I thank you for the love you always gave me. Fly free my boy.
Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA
Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline diabetes board. I have immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the first person that I get the email from. I wish you all the best of luck and long lives for the ones you care for. Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me holding him tonight Normally I named my animals based on what I think fits. Max went nameless for a long time as I got to know him from feeding him outside. It was a last resort name as I didn't have his personality down pat since he was a stray at the time. If I had known him better when I named him, it would have been zoid which would have been short for skitzoid. If I walked the wrong way, he would growl and slink away but then realize it was okay so he would roll and stretch. When he saw debbie he would hiss until she talked to him, Once she spoke he melted. The eyes would go soft, the face would light up and he would go to her and try to give her a concussion with his head bumps. One thing Max did was wear his emotions on his face and body and you would know exactly how he felt at all times. When he wanted to go outside, it was urgent and an emergency and he would tell you and his eyes were narrow and he would sulk. At night, all cats have to be inside the house and it took a 3 day "grounding' of Max before he dutifully learned the rules. If he wanted to go out late and we wouldn't let him,we counted on the zoid part. I would sit on the sofa as he was crying at the door and call him. He would come running over, strech, roll over and proceed to play with me totally forgetting that he wanted to do something else. Zoid wouldn't have been a fair name either. Sparkle maybe because of the sparkles that were in his eyes. Also because of the way he looked at me with such faith and trust even after having his trust and heart broken by the bastards that threw him away. He's better than me that way. Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much. All I had to do was sit on the couch, lean back and offer my chest and he was up there in 2 seconds kissing my face and neck. I'm sorry we didn't have more time together Max. I'm sorry for the times I yelled at you. You were so young and happy. I'm grateful for what you gave to me and taught me. I thank you for the love you always gave me. Fly free my boy.
RE: RE: To Ken and Max
Cornell University in Itaca is the one that comes off the top of my head… Not sure about vet schools in New Jersey…. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: RE: To Ken and Max > anywhere near Vet School Good idea. I don't know but will begin checking. i am in the New york?Jersey area
Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
If you have a place to foster any of your kitties temporarily, you might want to do that ASAP. When do you go to court? Depends on how crappy the law feels that day ... I do know of a man in the northeast a year or two ago, the law came in without warning and took everyone of his personal and rescue kitties. By the time he had a lawyer to try to get his kitties back, most had been euthed. Yes, horror story, which is why it has stayed with me a long time. I was not there nor know him personally. From what he said and having read his posts (different list) he seemed like a genuine animal caring person. I realize this will intensify your worry and sleeplessness, I am so sorry, but you do have to do whatever you can to save your babies. The real wrath of it is people like us who have over the city limit of animals but are devoted caretakers get in trouble but people who have even only one pet, neglected and abused, do not get caught and the animal suffers. It really makes me angry. Prayers and hugs for you and your babies to be safe. Wish I could do something more for you. Del - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I don't think they will take them away right away.. but if I can't finda home for them.. which I won't --whenever I look a home for them, I endup with more cats --my question is then, what will they do? Will theytake away from me and eventually kill them?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendySent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:12 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;rather, that they give you ample time to place them inother homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don'toffend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had toget rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, andtake them to my moms until they came back to check,and then like a teenager, I would bring them rightback home. I've always been a little rebellious likethat.--- Hideyo Yamamoto<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used> to care for all my> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually> overseeing now the vet> section at the animal control division, which I hope> to build> creditability as the letter says how responsible and> caring I am for all> my animals.> > Different officers came to inspect my place a few> times and they were> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000> a couple of years> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my> main house -> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..> etc.. and happy how> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I> will prepare for any> possible ways for them to complain.> > I am also going to ask someone I know through> rescuing.. she is with> Animal protection service of my state and she has a> lot of credibility> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still> very nervous because> they CAN take them away from me..> > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On> Behalf Of wendy> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!> > Hi Hideyo,> > I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance> troubles.> I agree with Kerry that having someone else there> as> an advocate for the care you are providing is a> smart> idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may> be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This> is> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out> in the country. The city government won't be able> to> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating> better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I> hope> that things start looking up again. In the> meantime,> don't let them get you down. Keep going strong.> > :)> Wendy> > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com> > > > __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: OT: blue star ointment made RW worse?
It is given to FIV+ kitties with ringworm because it is not as damaging to their immune system as fulvicin which can kill our FIV+ kitties. Not that either one is a health pill :( Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:45 PM Subject: Re: OT: blue star ointment made RW worse? In a message dated 11/7/2005 10:38:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Itraconazole. What is this drug? Thanks, Michelle
Re: To Ken and Max
Just found out from the vet that it is non regenitive anemia and a transfusion would only prolong the inevitable for a shot time. I think I am going to let my boy rest so there is no pain. He won't come to my house so I am going to try to find a vet that will. Thank you all for your kindness and advice. I hope you have the best for all your loved ones. Ken
Re: To Ken and Max
Also, here is a web link with a list of vet clinics in NJ: http://www.doggeek.com/Vets/New%20Jersey.shtml Michelle
Re: To Ken and Max
I do not know where Oradell is. What part of NJ are you in? People are always raving about Red Bank Veterinary Hospital. There are a few Veterinary Referral Centers in NJ too, though I can not remember where they are-- but a search on Google for this term and NJ will probably bring them up. They are set up like hospitals but only have specialists-- but an internist would see and treat Max. I just moved back to NJ and only paid for transfusions in MA, but I feel fairly certain you should be able to find someone to do it for about $400. I have not found the veterinary prices here to be so much more than Boston so far. And from what others have written, $400 seems the going rate in other parts of the country as well. $1,000 is completely outrageous. Michelle In a message dated 11/7/2005 5:49:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - I live in New Jersey. Oradell Animal hospital wanted a grand minimum
Re: To Ken and Max
Ken, Did you call Carnegie Cat Clinic in Princeton? Try there, or Red Bank Animal Hospital. Might be a hike for you, but both are excellent facilities. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec & Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:49 PM Subject: Re: To Ken and Max - I live in New Jersey. Oradell Animal hospital wanted a grand minimum
Re: To Ken and Max
- I live in New Jersey. Oradell Animal hospital wanted a grand minimum
Re: OT: blue star ointment made RW worse?
In a message dated 11/7/2005 10:38:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Itraconazole. What is this drug? Thanks, Michelle
Re: To Ken and Max
Where are you located? I don't understand the price difference. If you are in NYC (the only place I can imagine things being so expensive), maybe you could come to NJ for it. Michelle In a message dated 11/7/2005 5:21:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The largest hospital in the country is here and they want a minimum of $1,000. Other hospitals here were the same.The 400, even though it would come out of bills suppose to be paid. I would do.
Re: RE: To Ken and Max
> anywhere near Vet School Good idea. I don't know but will begin checking. i am in the New york?Jersey area
Re: To Ken and Max
Hi I know imom through the other board I am on (feline diabetes)and even some of the people who run it and in better times, I have given them money. I don't feel i could consider it as they supply money monthly to help people take care of diabetic cats. Right now they are struggling and since it is already in the marrow and his time is already limited, and he may not survive a transfusion, I wouldn't think it's fair. Thanks for the tips
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The largest hospital in the country is here and they want a minimum of $1,000. Other hospitals here were the same.The 400, even though it would come out of bills suppose to be paid. I would do.
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Title: Message I paid something like $400 for a transfusion at emergency services in Chicago---what shocked me was the extra $250 charged for drawing the blood from one of my healthy cats. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 4:48 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: To Ken and Max Hi A blood transfusion is almost 1000 dollars. I am totally broke. If there was any way, I would get it done but I have no credit left and things have been very rough. =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Besides that being an outrageously high price well beyond anything I have ever heard of, there are some online groups that provide money to people who cannnot afford treatments for their cats. I do not know if they would help where the outcome is so ambiguous, but if you are interested I can try to dig up the contact information. One is called IMOM, I think another is called the Feline Veterinary Emergency Fund, or something like that, and the third is a program within United Animal Nations. Michelle In a message dated 11/7/2005 4:49:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi A blood transfusion is almost 1000 dollars. I am totally broke. If there was any way, I would get it done but I have no credit left and things have been very rough.
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Oh, and 4) the vet who wrote that article on I-R says that I-R has saved some cats who other vets would have transfused, even without a transfusion. I personally would not take the chance.
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Ken, 1) I am surprised no one will type the blood as part of the transfusion. That is how it was done for Simon, and the whole transfusion, including typing and flushing, was about $400-- and at a large university hospital near Boston. Have you tried looking for a larger hospital? 2) They gave him Simon a Benadryl shot prior to the transfusions, I believe, in order to counteract a possible allergic reaction. No pred, but he was already on pred. 3) It is fine to give pred even to a weak animal-- it makes them feel stronger, actually. Very strong steroids can weaken the immune system in some cases, but if he is having an auto-immune response or he has cancer he should be on pred anyway. Michelle In a message dated 11/7/2005 4:52:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . Make sure that the vet tells you whether or not Max has a responsive anemia or non-responsive anemia, Will the vet know that from the first blood tests? I also understand that the blood should be typed but no one would do it. for less than a grand and I just don't have it. Someone said pred should be given before a transfusion, is that true? it hasn't been given yet and wondering of I should get it as weak as he is. Also one of the articles said that immuno regulan can be used in lieu of a transfusion, anyone know about that? http://www.felineleukemia.org
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WOW!! I’m not been keeping up with posts but are you anywhere near Vet School—sometimes you can get care there by ‘interns’ for substantially less… Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: To Ken and Max Hi A blood transfusion is almost 1000 dollars. I am totally broke. If there was any way, I would get it done but I have no credit left and things have been very rough.
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. Make sure that the vet tells you whether or not Max has a responsive anemia or non-responsive anemia, Will the vet know that from the first blood tests? I also understand that the blood should be typed but no one would do it. for less than a grand and I just don't have it. Someone said pred should be given before a transfusion, is that true? it hasn't been given yet and wondering of I should get it as weak as he is. Also one of the articles said that immuno regulan can be used in lieu of a transfusion, anyone know about that? http://www.felineleukemia.org/opinion.html
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Hi A blood transfusion is almost 1000 dollars. I am totally broke. If there was any way, I would get it done but I have no credit left and things have been very rough.
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I really think he should get a transfusion, but I think it should be cross-typed. Michelle In a message dated 11/7/2005 2:51:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank You You are saying that Cricket hung on for 3 week so far.Good to hear. We are scheduled for the immunoregulin tomorrow and since he is so weak and really needs blood, I would like to know if it is something that should be done. Is there anytrhing else I should be doing at this point besides Baytrill and making sure he has some food in him. His hemocrat was down to 8 and that was last week. What really scares me is when I pick him up, he cries.
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Good luck, Hideyo! If you have not already, you should call the Animal Legal Defense Fund in CA (they have a website with contact info) and ask for a referral to a pro bono attorney in HI to help you at your hearing. Michelle
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Hideyo, Athena and Artemis are about 6 months now - but they are still kittens. My vet is on temporary leave (pregnancy) during November, but I hope to have her spay the girls - probably just after Xmas since I have the week between Xmas/NewYears off from work. I really need to get new pics... They're sooo cute. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:34:17 -0700 > From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! > > Hi, Kathy, thank you very much! > How are the kittens? (maybe now they are too big to be called kittens?) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:29 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! > > Dear Hideyo, > > I'm sending stay strong vibes and will keep my candles lit for you until > you win this battle. Better to be over prepared (actually > no-such-thing) > that to just passively answer questions as they come. Definately get > your > previous vet's support - in writing - and contact ALDF and maybe even > Best > Friends Sanctuary - they've been known to help out too. > > Also sending prayers for Ginger... > > Kat (Mew Jersey) > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > > > > Hi, everyone - I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! > > > > I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control > came > > over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on > the > > current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit > (they > > have a very stupid way to calculate it) - so, now I have to go to a > > hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any > > objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to > 15 > > animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case - > > everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won't take > > my babies away from me! I don't know what I would do without them! > > > > > > Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to - she sipped > on > > Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding... she > does > > not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing - I might have to > > take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see > > if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain > > her appetite back very very soon! > > > > > > > > Again, thank you for all your support! > > > > > > > >
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Man, I feel for you Hideyo. Some people just don't have a life and they get into everyone else's business and cause problems because they don't. I hate that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone anonymously reported me that I have many > cats - not any type of > complains regarding that.. as my cats are all > indoors, they don't bother > my neighbors or anything.. it's almost like > "personal" thing against me > and nothing to do with my animals and that's how I > started. And > actually, I was already given a permit from the city > last year - so when > the city contacted me, I told them that I already > have a permit - then, > they couldn't find the paper work and the officer > who gave me a permit > no longer is the officer and they told me that he > did not follow the > correct process (not following the correct ordinance > as to exactly how > many cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over > again. > > I do have a place that I can take my cats > temporarily - I just have to > do a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do > so anyway. It just > does not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I > are not bothering > anyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they > care??? If you know > what I mean.. we don't remove children from a family > just because they > have too many children.. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of wendy > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! > > I have never heard of anyone I know personally > dealing > with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for > sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they > would > give you like 30 days to find homes for however many > over the number they allow you. Then, at the end of > 30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment > to > come by to do a head count. After that, I bet they > don't bother you much and you can bring any kitties > back that kind people have taken in for you for a > short time so that you can pass the head count. I > hope you have family or good friends nearby that > will > help you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future, > you don't have to answer the door to anyone from > animal control if you think they are coming to do a > head count again. I doubt they will hassle you > though. I wouldn't worry about all this just yet > though Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. > > And if they end up allowing you to have your cats, > then you will have worried for no reason. How in > the > world did this all happen in the first place? Did > someone complain about your cats? > > > > > > __ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in > one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > > > __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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Ken, Before I knew something was wrong with Cricket, he cried when I picked him up as well. That's when I started noticing something was wrong. Make sure that the vet tells you whether or not Max has a responsive anemia or non-responsive anemia, because that is what tells you what is wrong with Max and the course of treatment. In Cricket's case, he has a good prognosis of responsive anemia because his rbc count was at 7.3%, but he had a reticulocyte count of 8% or so, which means his body is making new rbc's but he is having an auto-immune response where his body is killing the new rbc's. It doesn't sound good, but when compared to non-responsive anemia, where an animal isn't making any new rbc's, it is. We just have to try to get Cricket's immune system to stop killing the new rbc's. That is why you need to have a good blood count. Before you make the decision to transfuse, you need to know about the type of anemia. Max probably needs to be on some sort of steroid or cortosteroid (might be the same thing, not sure; I've heard my vet say both things at different times). Cricket is on Prednisolone. I think a lot of kitties that are anemic are. Seems to be standard treatment from what I've read. Prayer helps too. And a lot of love and tender care. Max will benefit from that a lot no matter what. Hope this helps. :) Wendy __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Hi, Kathy, thank you very much! How are the kittens? (maybe now they are too big to be called kittens?) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Dear Hideyo, I'm sending stay strong vibes and will keep my candles lit for you until you win this battle. Better to be over prepared (actually no-such-thing) that to just passively answer questions as they come. Definately get your previous vet's support - in writing - and contact ALDF and maybe even Best Friends Sanctuary - they've been known to help out too. Also sending prayers for Ginger... Kat (Mew Jersey) On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > > Hi, everyone - I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! > > I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came > over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the > current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they > have a very stupid way to calculate it) - so, now I have to go to a > hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any > objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 > animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case - > everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won't take > my babies away from me! I don't know what I would do without them! > > > Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to - she sipped on > Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding... she does > not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing - I might have to > take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see > if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain > her appetite back very very soon! > > > > Again, thank you for all your support! > >
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Dear Hideyo, I'm sending stay strong vibes and will keep my candles lit for you until you win this battle. Better to be over prepared (actually no-such-thing) that to just passively answer questions as they come. Definately get your previous vet's support - in writing - and contact ALDF and maybe even Best Friends Sanctuary - they've been known to help out too. Also sending prayers for Ginger... Kat (Mew Jersey) On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > > Hi, everyone - I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! > > I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came > over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the > current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they > have a very stupid way to calculate it) - so, now I have to go to a > hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any > objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 > animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case - > everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won't take > my babies away from me! I don't know what I would do without them! > > > Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to - she sipped on > Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding... she does > not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing - I might have to > take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see > if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain > her appetite back very very soon! > > > > Again, thank you for all your support! > >
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I don't remember - I think I just went in and described what I wanted. Comes in different size rolls and it may have been with the roll-up bamboo -type shades or close by. That is what I got at the same time. It has been over a year -- the city code people cited my carport for having things on it that weren't designed to go outdoors - like a couple of bookcases. I was lucky that they didn't walk the whole carport and look in the den windows - and see WAY over the allowed limit of cats. So I got that plastic stuff and put it over all my den windows - but FAST!Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What do you call it, do you know? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:11 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I got some at Home DepotHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type ofadhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from oneside, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted toexplore the option - do you know what I am talking about?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria LaneSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!Think that's what I'd do!GloriaOn Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote:> I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;> rather, that they give you ample time to place them in> other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't> offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to> get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and> take them to my moms until they came back to check,> and then like a teenager, I would bring them right> back home. I've always been a little rebellious like> that.>> --- Hideyo Yamamoto> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>>> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used>> to care for all my>> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually>> overseeing now the vet>> section at the animal control division, which I hope>> to build>> creditability as the letter says how responsible and>> caring I am for all>> my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few>> times and they were>> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000>> a couple of years>> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my>> main house ->> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..>> etc.. and happy how>> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I>> will prepare for any>> possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through>> rescuing.. she is with>> Animal protection service of my state and she has a>> lot of credibility>> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still>> very nervous because>> they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message->> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On>> Behalf Of wendy>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance>> troubles.>> I agree with Kerry that having someone else there>> as>> an advocate for the care you are providing is a>> smart>> idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the>> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in>> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,>> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may>> be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This>> is>> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out>> in the country. The city government won't be able>> to>> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I>> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating>> better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I>> hope>> that things start looking up again. In the>> meantime,>> don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :)>> Wendy>> >> >> __>> Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005>> http://mail.yahoo.com > __> Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.> http://farechase.yahoo.com>>
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Hideyo,you will be in my prayers every night. I don't know what I would do if someone tried to take my fur balls. I do believe it would kill me. I hate to think of the anguish you must be going through. We all will keep positive thoughts and with Gods help everything will turn out fine. Sheila in SC
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Hi Ken, Have you looked into a blood transfusion to help get Max over the hump until the imm kicks in?? Kat (Mew Jersey) On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:50:27 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: To Ken and Max > > > Thank You > > > > You are saying that Cricket hung on for 3 week so far.Good to hear. > > We are scheduled for the immunoregulin tomorrow and since he is so weak and > really needs blood, I > would like to know if it is something that should be done. Is there anytrhing > else I should be doing > at this point besides Baytrill and making sure he has some food in him. His > hemocrat was down to 8 > and that was last week. What really scares me is when I pick him up, he > cries. > > > > > > >
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There is film that comes in rolls--you should be able to buy at any Lowes or Home Depot... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 4:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type of adhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from one side, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted to explore the option - do you know what I am talking about? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Think that's what I'd do! Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote: > I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; > rather, that they give you ample time to place them in > other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't > offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to > get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and > take them to my moms until they came back to check, > and then like a teenager, I would bring them right > back home. I've always been a little rebellious like > that. > > --- Hideyo Yamamoto > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used >> to care for all my >> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually >> overseeing now the vet >> section at the animal control division, which I hope >> to build >> creditability as the letter says how responsible and >> caring I am for all >> my animals. >> >> Different officers came to inspect my place a few >> times and they were >> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 >> a couple of years >> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my >> main house - >> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. >> etc.. and happy how >> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I >> will prepare for any >> possible ways for them to complain. >> >> I am also going to ask someone I know through >> rescuing.. she is with >> Animal protection service of my state and she has a >> lot of credibility >> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still >> very nervous because >> they CAN take them away from me.. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of wendy >> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! >> >> Hi Hideyo, >> >> I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance >> troubles. >> I agree with Kerry that having someone else there >> as >> an advocate for the care you are providing is a >> smart >> idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the >> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in >> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, >> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may >> be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This >> is >> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out >> in the country. The city government won't be able >> to >> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I >> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating >> better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I >> hope >> that things start looking up again. In the >> meantime, >> don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. >> >> :) >> Wendy >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> > > > > > __ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > >
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What do you call it, do you know? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I got some at Home Depot Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type of adhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from one side, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted to explore the option - do you know what I am talking about? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Think that's what I'd do! Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote: > I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; > rather, that they give you ample time to place them in > other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't > offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to > get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and > take them to my moms until they came back to check, > and then like a teenager, I would bring them right > back home. I've always been a little rebellious like > that. > > --- Hideyo Yamamoto > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used >> to care for all my >> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually >> overseeing now the vet >> section at the animal control division, which I hope >> to build >> creditability as the letter says how responsible and >> caring I am for all >> my animals. >> >> Different officers came to inspect my place a few >> times and they were >> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 >> a couple of years >> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my >> main house - >> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. >> etc.. and happy how >> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I >> will prepare for any >> possible ways for them to complain. >> >> I am also going to ask someone I know through >> rescuing.. she is with >> Animal protection service of my state and she has a >> lot of credibility >> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still >> very nervous because >> they CAN take them away from me.. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of wendy >> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! >> >> Hi Hideyo, >> >> I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance >> troubles. >> I agree with Kerry that having someone else there >> as >> an advocate for the care you are providing is a >> smart >> idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the >> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in >> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, >> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may >> be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This >> is >> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out >> in the country. The city government won't be able >> to >> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I >> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating >> better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I >> hope >> that things start looking up again. In the >> meantime, >> don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. >> >> :) >> Wendy >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> > > > > > __ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > >
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
I got some at Home DepotHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type ofadhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from oneside, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted toexplore the option - do you know what I am talking about?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria LaneSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!Think that's what I'd do!GloriaOn Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote:> I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;> rather, that they give you ample time to place them in> other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't> offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to> get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and> take them to my moms until they came back to check,> and then like a teenager, I would bring them right> back home. I've always been a little rebellious like> that.>> --- Hideyo Yamamoto> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>>> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used>> to care for all my>> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually>> overseeing now the vet>> section at the animal control division, which I hope>> to build>> creditability as the letter says how responsible and>> caring I am for all>> my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few>> times and they were>> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000>> a couple of years>> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my>> main house ->> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures..>> etc.. and happy how>> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I>> will prepare for any>> possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through>> rescuing.. she is with>> Animal protection service of my state and she has a>> lot of credibility>> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still>> very nervous because>> they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message->> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On>> Behalf Of wendy>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance>> troubles.>> I agree with Kerry that having someone else there>> as>> an advocate for the care you are providing is a>> smart>> idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the>> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in>> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,>> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may>> be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This>> is>> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out>> in the country. The city government won't be able>> to>> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I>> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating>> better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I>> hope>> that things start looking up again. In the>> meantime,>> don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :)>> Wendy>> >> >> __>> Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005>> http://mail.yahoo.com > __> Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.> http://farechase.yahoo.com>>
Re: To Ken and Max
Hey Ken - just wondering if you found another vet... Also, there are some other options - have you used interferon alpha? I give that every day to my kitties. Hope Max is doing well. I'm sending good thoughts and prayers for you two. Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 1:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy Thank you very much for your post and thoughts. max is going downhill rapidly and even though he has been eating, I just don't think he will even make it or be strong enough tomorrow for the innumoregulin. I have supplemented his food with iron and pet tinic but I am afraid I found out about this too late. We did have a great day Saturday as Max's tail went staraight up in the air as I let him outside in 70 degree weather. He also went out Sunday but I don't feel it was as good for him. I wish didn't have to work today and could just be with him. Thank You again
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type of adhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from one side, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted to explore the option - do you know what I am talking about? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Think that's what I'd do! Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote: > I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; > rather, that they give you ample time to place them in > other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't > offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to > get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and > take them to my moms until they came back to check, > and then like a teenager, I would bring them right > back home. I've always been a little rebellious like > that. > > --- Hideyo Yamamoto > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used >> to care for all my >> cats for the past 10 years and she is actually >> overseeing now the vet >> section at the animal control division, which I hope >> to build >> creditability as the letter says how responsible and >> caring I am for all >> my animals. >> >> Different officers came to inspect my place a few >> times and they were >> all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 >> a couple of years >> ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my >> main house - >> windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. >> etc.. and happy how >> well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I >> will prepare for any >> possible ways for them to complain. >> >> I am also going to ask someone I know through >> rescuing.. she is with >> Animal protection service of my state and she has a >> lot of credibility >> with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still >> very nervous because >> they CAN take them away from me.. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of wendy >> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! >> >> Hi Hideyo, >> >> I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance >> troubles. >> I agree with Kerry that having someone else there >> as >> an advocate for the care you are providing is a >> smart >> idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the >> very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in >> the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, >> neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may >> be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This >> is >> the very reason I hope to one day have some land out >> in the country. The city government won't be able >> to >> tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I >> will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating >> better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I >> hope >> that things start looking up again. In the >> meantime, >> don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. >> >> :) >> Wendy >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> > > > > > __ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > >
Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
Think that's what I'd do! Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote: I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: To Ken and Max
Title: Message Praying for Max, Ken. I hope he makes it. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:41 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: To Ken and Max Wendy Thank you very much for your post and thoughts. max is going downhill rapidly and even though he has been eating, I just don't think he will even make it or be strong enough tomorrow for the innumoregulin. I have supplemented his food with iron and pet tinic but I am afraid I found out about this too late. We did have a great day Saturday as Max's tail went staraight up in the air as I let him outside in 70 degree weather. He also went out Sunday but I don't feel it was as good for him. I wish didn't have to work today and could just be with him. Thank You again =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: To Ken and Max
Thank You You are saying that Cricket hung on for 3 week so far.Good to hear. We are scheduled for the immunoregulin tomorrow and since he is so weak and really needs blood, I would like to know if it is something that should be done. Is there anytrhing else I should be doing at this point besides Baytrill and making sure he has some food in him. His hemocrat was down to 8 and that was last week. What really scares me is when I pick him up, he cries.
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
Someone anonymously reported me that I have many cats - not any type of complains regarding that.. as my cats are all indoors, they don't bother my neighbors or anything.. it's almost like "personal" thing against me and nothing to do with my animals and that's how I started. And actually, I was already given a permit from the city last year - so when the city contacted me, I told them that I already have a permit - then, they couldn't find the paper work and the officer who gave me a permit no longer is the officer and they told me that he did not follow the correct process (not following the correct ordinance as to exactly how many cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over again. I do have a place that I can take my cats temporarily - I just have to do a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do so anyway. It just does not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I are not bothering anyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they care??? If you know what I mean.. we don't remove children from a family just because they have too many children.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealing with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they would give you like 30 days to find homes for however many over the number they allow you. Then, at the end of 30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment to come by to do a head count. After that, I bet they don't bother you much and you can bring any kitties back that kind people have taken in for you for a short time so that you can pass the head count. I hope you have family or good friends nearby that will help you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future, you don't have to answer the door to anyone from animal control if you think they are coming to do a head count again. I doubt they will hassle you though. I wouldn't worry about all this just yet though Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. And if they end up allowing you to have your cats, then you will have worried for no reason. How in the world did this all happen in the first place? Did someone complain about your cats? __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealing with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they would give you like 30 days to find homes for however many over the number they allow you. Then, at the end of 30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment to come by to do a head count. After that, I bet they don't bother you much and you can bring any kitties back that kind people have taken in for you for a short time so that you can pass the head count. I hope you have family or good friends nearby that will help you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future, you don't have to answer the door to anyone from animal control if you think they are coming to do a head count again. I doubt they will hassle you though. I wouldn't worry about all this just yet though Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. And if they end up allowing you to have your cats, then you will have worried for no reason. How in the world did this all happen in the first place? Did someone complain about your cats? __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
Hideyo, don't even let yourself think in those terms. If the worst came to the worst, we are all here to do whatever we can to help you and your cats find homes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I don't think they will take them away right away.. but if I can't find a home for them.. which I won't --whenever I look a home for them, I end up with more cats --my question is then, what will they do? Will they take away from me and eventually kill them? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used > to care for all my > cats for the past 10 years and she is actually > overseeing now the vet > section at the animal control division, which I hope > to build > creditability as the letter says how responsible and > caring I am for all > my animals. > > Different officers came to inspect my place a few > times and they were > all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 > a couple of years > ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my > main house - > windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. > etc.. and happy how > well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I > will prepare for any > possible ways for them to complain. > > I am also going to ask someone I know through > rescuing.. she is with > Animal protection service of my state and she has a > lot of credibility > with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still > very nervous because > they CAN take them away from me.. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of wendy > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! > > Hi Hideyo, > > I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance > troubles. > I agree with Kerry that having someone else there > as > an advocate for the care you are providing is a > smart > idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the > very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in > the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, > neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may > be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This > is > the very reason I hope to one day have some land out > in the country. The city government won't be able > to > tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I > will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating > better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I > hope > that things start looking up again. In the > meantime, > don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. > > :) > Wendy > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: To Ken and Max
Ken, I know EXACTLY how you feel about not wanting to be at work. All you can do is think and worry about your kitty. I know it's hard. Just hang in there. I thought the same thing about Cricket, that he wouldn't survive long. Part of it was because I had filled my head with so much information, I talked myself into believing that Cricket was a goner in just a few days, but he has been hanging in there for 3 weeks now. Nina said it the best. She said that you do all you can do, and the rest is up to kitty and the powers that be. Once I read that, I let some of the pressure off myself and stopped worrying so much. I can't control things. What's going to happen is going to happen, but I will do everything I can to help Cricket survive. I am little more at peace now that I went through the depression and what I would consider grieving these past few weeks. It was very hard at first though. So just hang in there. :) Wendy P.S. Cricket loves going outside too. I am hoping he is strong enough to go outside this afternoon when I get home. I think it helps with his depression. __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
I don't think they will take them away right away.. but if I can't find a home for them.. which I won't --whenever I look a home for them, I end up with more cats --my question is then, what will they do? Will they take away from me and eventually kill them? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used > to care for all my > cats for the past 10 years and she is actually > overseeing now the vet > section at the animal control division, which I hope > to build > creditability as the letter says how responsible and > caring I am for all > my animals. > > Different officers came to inspect my place a few > times and they were > all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 > a couple of years > ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my > main house - > windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. > etc.. and happy how > well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I > will prepare for any > possible ways for them to complain. > > I am also going to ask someone I know through > rescuing.. she is with > Animal protection service of my state and she has a > lot of credibility > with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still > very nervous because > they CAN take them away from me.. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of wendy > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! > > Hi Hideyo, > > I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance > troubles. > I agree with Kerry that having someone else there > as > an advocate for the care you are providing is a > smart > idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the > very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in > the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, > neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may > be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This > is > the very reason I hope to one day have some land out > in the country. The city government won't be able > to > tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I > will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating > better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I > hope > that things start looking up again. In the > meantime, > don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. > > :) > Wendy > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: Sub Q fluids
I don't know where my vet got it - think from someone who works at the local university med center. But it's just a flexible plastic tube, about 6 or 8 inches. It has one end that allows me to fit it on the syringe. And the other end is for the needle. I think it's aactually called an "extension". It means I can move the syringe, without the needle moving in the kitty, so more comfortable. Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, Gloria.. that's interesting.. can you explain (or draw a picture for me) how you do it? I got the part where you use syringe, but did not get the part about a flexible plastic extension.. I give my Hannibal fluid every couple of days for CRF and always try to find a way which is more comfortable for him.. thanks, bunch! Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Sub Q fluids I also ordered a box of Terumo needles, size 20 . I also administer it a little differently. I have a 60 cc syringe, and have a flexible plastic "extension" that I put the needle on at the end. Give the cat more "wiggle" room. I fill the syringe, and use it (not the bag) to give fluids. I can "push" it more, if kitty is amenable to it. Just something I started doing a few years ago, and still prefer that method. Cats react differently to sub-q, also. I tried to give my Lancelot sub-q a few days ago, he's a bit dehydrated and has these weird persistent allergies. And he really acted like it was killing him. So no more sub q for him. For some cats, there's no reaction at all. Gloria At 12:53 PM 11/1/2005, you wrote: I feel a little dumb here. I thought sub-q meant you would inject fluid in a needle under the cat's skin. I didn't know you were hooking up a whole IV bag to the cat! I assume this is done to rehydrate an animal. I don't think Cricket would go for this. Can anyone give me the simple explanation of sub q? Thanks! __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: To Ken and Max
Aww Ken, I'm so sorry Max isn't doing well. I know how hard it is to be away from them at times like these. I'm praying that he bounces back with the IR and that you have lots more wonderful times together. Much love to you and Max, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy Thank you very much for your post and thoughts. max is going downhill rapidly and even though he has been eating, I just don't think he will even make it or be strong enough tomorrow for the innumoregulin. I have supplemented his food with iron and pet tinic but I am afraid I found out about this too late. We did have a great day Saturday as Max's tail went staraight up in the air as I let him outside in 70 degree weather. He also went out Sunday but I don't feel it was as good for him. I wish didn't have to work today and could just be with him. Thank You again
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used > to care for all my > cats for the past 10 years and she is actually > overseeing now the vet > section at the animal control division, which I hope > to build > creditability as the letter says how responsible and > caring I am for all > my animals. > > Different officers came to inspect my place a few > times and they were > all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 > a couple of years > ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my > main house - > windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. > etc.. and happy how > well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I > will prepare for any > possible ways for them to complain. > > I am also going to ask someone I know through > rescuing.. she is with > Animal protection service of my state and she has a > lot of credibility > with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still > very nervous because > they CAN take them away from me.. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of wendy > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! > > Hi Hideyo, > > I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance > troubles. > I agree with Kerry that having someone else there > as > an advocate for the care you are providing is a > smart > idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the > very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in > the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, > neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may > be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This > is > the very reason I hope to one day have some land out > in the country. The city government won't be able > to > tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I > will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating > better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I > hope > that things start looking up again. In the > meantime, > don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. > > :) > Wendy > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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That’s a good idea – I am not a good writer… but I have an idea, and Greg is a lawyer and writes really well.. so maybe he can edit it … I have 5 days to request a hearing from this Wednesdays that’s when an office will bring me all the paper work I need to request a hearing, but I am not sure how long before the hearing.. I will write to ALDF to see if they have any suggestions. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hideyo, The suggestions given sound good, being prepared with pictures of your habitat, receipts for medical and housing costs etc. Could you write up some sort of acknowledgment of your general good deeds in caring for the cats? Get as many signatures on it as possible, vets, neighbors, etc. How much time do you have before the hearing? I know the folks on this list would be willing to sign too, if we can figure out how to do that logistically. I know from stories you've posted on the list that you've run across some influential people while doing rescue work, government officials, media people, get their signatures and short statements about who you are and what you do too. Some sound legal advice is in order as well, here's the link to ALDF, (Animal Legal Defense Fund). Write or call them and tell them what's going on and ask how they can help. They have attorneys that do pro bono work for good folks like you. http://www.aldf.org/ Blessings and prayers for you, your situation and for sweet little Ginger. She's been refusing to eat for what seems like a long time now, maybe you had better get her into the vet, just in case they can figure out why. Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone – I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) – so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case – everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won’t take my babies away from me! I don’t know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to – she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding… she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing – I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
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Hideyo, The suggestions given sound good, being prepared with pictures of your habitat, receipts for medical and housing costs etc. Could you write up some sort of acknowledgment of your general good deeds in caring for the cats? Get as many signatures on it as possible, vets, neighbors, etc. How much time do you have before the hearing? I know the folks on this list would be willing to sign too, if we can figure out how to do that logistically. I know from stories you've posted on the list that you've run across some influential people while doing rescue work, government officials, media people, get their signatures and short statements about who you are and what you do too. Some sound legal advice is in order as well, here's the link to ALDF, (Animal Legal Defense Fund). Write or call them and tell them what's going on and ask how they can help. They have attorneys that do pro bono work for good folks like you. http://www.aldf.org/ Blessings and prayers for you, your situation and for sweet little Ginger. She's been refusing to eat for what seems like a long time now, maybe you had better get her into the vet, just in case they can figure out why. Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone – I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) – so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case – everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won’t take my babies away from me! I don’t know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to – she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding… she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing – I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
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Wendy Thank you very much for your post and thoughts. max is going downhill rapidly and even though he has been eating, I just don't think he will even make it or be strong enough tomorrow for the innumoregulin. I have supplemented his food with iron and pet tinic but I am afraid I found out about this too late. We did have a great day Saturday as Max's tail went staraight up in the air as I let him outside in 70 degree weather. He also went out Sunday but I don't feel it was as good for him. I wish didn't have to work today and could just be with him. Thank You again
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Ah, yes, good idea. Very good idea. Pix of building, indoors and out, plus cats shown in the building, plus closeups of cats to show how well they are. Plus receipts of all the meds you buy including homeopathic. Hideyo, no one cares for cats better than you---I hope some of those people sitting in "judgment" have a cat or two---you can be sure they will be secretly thinking, "wow, this woman takes far, far better care of/spends far more $$ on her cats than I do". But they'll never tell you that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Yep.. sorry, I knew that's what you meant.. Last time, when they came over, they wanted to meet every cat I had (I gave a list of their names),,, just so that they know they look healthy.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I meant pix of the facility from all angles showing all the work you had done. (The cats will be in the pix anyway) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of . I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it. Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should be). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Ma
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Yep.. sorry, I knew that's what you meant.. Last time, when they came over, they wanted to meet every cat I had (I gave a list of their names),,, just so that they know they look healthy.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I meant pix of the facility from all angles showing all the work you had done. (The cats will be in the pix anyway) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of . I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it. Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should be). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addr
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I meant pix of the facility from all angles showing all the work you had done. (The cats will be in the pix anyway) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of . I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it. Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should be). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax pe
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Bring everything you can. Better to have than not to have with you on the day. I've never been to one of those but I'd say beter to come prepared to make a factual presentation--as opposed to simply passively answering their Qs ??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! There is a case in PA, where the city gave a lady a citation for having like 25 to 35 cats and she actually appealed to the PA state court and actually the state court ruled against the city's ruling saying that, "having numerous number of cats itself merely do not prove the presence of "nuisance", - should I bring a stuff like that??? What other factual information should I bring?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Hear hear. That's a very sound suggestion--going in overly prepared, with facts (as opposed to appealing to their compassionate side---which they may well not possess in any case). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of . I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it. Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should be). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Thank you very much!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Many prayers for you and your situation -- and of course for sweet Ginger!
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Many prayers for you and your situation -- and of course for sweet Ginger!
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of . I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it. Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should be). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
There is a case in PA, where the city gave a lady a citation for having like 25 to 35 cats and she actually appealed to the PA state court and actually the state court ruled against the city's ruling saying that, "having numerous number of cats itself merely do not prove the presence of "nuisance", - should I bring a stuff like that??? What other factual information should I bring?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Hear hear. That's a very sound suggestion--going in overly prepared, with facts (as opposed to appealing to their compassionate side---which they may well not possess in any case). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Sub Q fluids
Hi, Gloria.. that's interesting.. can you explain (or draw a picture for me) how you do it? I got the part where you use syringe, but did not get the part about a flexible plastic extension.. I give my Hannibal fluid every couple of days for CRF and always try to find a way which is more comfortable for him.. thanks, bunch! Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Sub Q fluids I also ordered a box of Terumo needles, size 20 . I also administer it a little differently. I have a 60 cc syringe, and have a flexible plastic "extension" that I put the needle on at the end. Give the cat more "wiggle" room. I fill the syringe, and use it (not the bag) to give fluids. I can "push" it more, if kitty is amenable to it. Just something I started doing a few years ago, and still prefer that method. Cats react differently to sub-q, also. I tried to give my Lancelot sub-q a few days ago, he's a bit dehydrated and has these weird persistent allergies. And he really acted like it was killing him. So no more sub q for him. For some cats, there's no reaction at all. Gloria At 12:53 PM 11/1/2005, you wrote: >I feel a little dumb here. I thought sub-q meant you >would inject fluid in a needle under the cat's skin. >I didn't know you were hooking up a whole IV bag to >the cat! I assume this is done to rehydrate an >animal. I don't think Cricket would go for this. Can >anyone give me the simple explanation of sub q? Thanks! > > > >__ >Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. >http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
Hideyo, I'm so sorry - lots of prayers and good vibes for you and your babies. Gloria At 12:31 PM 11/7/2005, you wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
Sending GLOW and love and support your way and tolerance and acceptance to the holders of the hearing Your babies need you as much as you need them!! <<>Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: Sub Q fluids
I also ordered a box of Terumo needles, size 20 . I also administer it a little differently. I have a 60 cc syringe, and have a flexible plastic "extension" that I put the needle on at the end. Give the cat more "wiggle" room. I fill the syringe, and use it (not the bag) to give fluids. I can "push" it more, if kitty is amenable to it. Just something I started doing a few years ago, and still prefer that method. Cats react differently to sub-q, also. I tried to give my Lancelot sub-q a few days ago, he's a bit dehydrated and has these weird persistent allergies. And he really acted like it was killing him. So no more sub q for him. For some cats, there's no reaction at all. Gloria At 12:53 PM 11/1/2005, you wrote: I feel a little dumb here. I thought sub-q meant you would inject fluid in a needle under the cat's skin. I didn't know you were hooking up a whole IV bag to the cat! I assume this is done to rehydrate an animal. I don't think Cricket would go for this. Can anyone give me the simple explanation of sub q? Thanks! __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
Hear hear. That's a very sound suggestion--going in overly prepared, with facts (as opposed to appealing to their compassionate side---which they may well not possess in any case). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Sub Q fluids
Amazing the difference in vets. I've also used lactated ringer's sub-q a whole lot, it's what several vets have given me, and I never had a cat slough off any skin. Gloria At 11:22 AM 11/4/2005, you wrote: I thought you couldn't give lactated ringer's sub-q because it would cause the skin to slough off. The vet I used to work for told me this... to be very careful to not get the lactated ringer's mixed up with the saline, because if you give lactated ringers under the skin, it does serious damage to the tissue, and can make the cat's skin actually SLOUGH OFF of their body. Maybe she was just trying to scare me into getting the right bag the first time... Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ "Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal." ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to!
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
Title: Message Thank you, Kerry – I appreciate your support! I am so nervous and anxious that I can’t sleep at night. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:42 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Dearest Hideyo You can be sure everyone on this list will be willing the hearing to go your way, and for compassion--your compassion towards animals in need--to win the day. Can you have others there, like a vet, or an animal advocate, to speak as well in support of you? (You care for more than 15 cats, so I'm presuming you are fighting to keep all of them.) When is the hearing? Praying for Ginger regaining her appetite too. She sure is an amazing kitty if she's behaving normally is every other way. Bless you Hideyo for everything you do for those that can't speak for themselves. much love and support, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi, everyone – I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) – so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case – everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won’t take my babies away from me! I don’t know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to – she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding… she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing – I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support! =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
Title: Message Dearest Hideyo You can be sure everyone on this list will be willing the hearing to go your way, and for compassion--your compassion towards animals in need--to win the day. Can you have others there, like a vet, or an animal advocate, to speak as well in support of you? (You care for more than 15 cats, so I'm presuming you are fighting to keep all of them.) When is the hearing? Praying for Ginger regaining her appetite too. She sure is an amazing kitty if she's behaving normally is every other way. Bless you Hideyo for everything you do for those that can't speak for themselves. much love and support, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi, everyone – I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) – so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case – everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won’t take my babies away from me! I don’t know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to – she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding… she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing – I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support! =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Need all your prayers - please!!
Hi, everyone – I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) – so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case – everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won’t take my babies away from me! I don’t know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to – she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding… she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing – I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
RE: risk of contagion Q
Thanks Gloria--- you mix yours--- but you say they're "indoors", meaning they don't come into contact with unknown cats who may have Felv. Ok, so next Q, and this time it's pertinent to my own dilemma: Is your thinking that your healthy cats have successfully stayed neg while living alongside your positives. BUT if you introduce a new FeLV (or if they came into contact ouside with a positive) that might change--they might contract FeLV that's a different strain?? I ask because I have one negative living with my one positive, away from the other negs. I worry about fostering another FeLV in case the neg *becomes* positive thru the new cat. (I'm also harboring a tiny hope that either the pos cat may have become neg in recent months OR his July 2004 test may have been wrong---he has always seemed so healthy while with me...(he was in the hospital before he came to me but was reported not to be positive then.) All responses/opinions welcome! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q I don't vaccinate my negs - They have had vacs a long time back, but they're healthy and indoor, so I don't do vacs. Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 9:03 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: > Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats > involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether > they are vaccinated against FeLV. > > Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who > mixes): > Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs? > > Kerry > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Felvtalk- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q > > > Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything > including food dishes, have for over 10 years. All of my negatives > are > still negative. > > -- > Belinda > Happiness is being owned by cats ... > > Be-Mi-Kitties ... > http://www.bemikitties.com > > Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens > http://adopt.bemikitties.com > > FeLV Candle Light Service > http://www.bemikitties.com/cls > > HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) > http://HostDesign4U.com > > --- > > BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) > http://bmk.bemikitties.com > > > > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax > matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, > Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer > for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under > U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice > in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other > entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) > the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a > person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction > or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the > taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely > for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify the system > manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. > > > > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Update on Cricket 11-07-05
I am so proud of Cricket! I will be praying that he will continue to get better! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:37 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Update on Cricket 11-07-05 Wow, glad to hear he's hanging in there and that his gums are pink - and glad to hear that you had a break in Corpus Christi! Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:23 AM, wendy wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I hope your weekend was a relaxing one. I did manage > to relax in Corpus Christi some, which I needed. My > mom, aunt, and cousin went by the house on Saturday > and gave Cricket his Prednisolone and Cyproheptadine > and loved on him quite a bit. My best friend came by > Sunday and gave him his Prednisolone. I got home last > night and gave him his meds and he drank quite a bit > of tuna juice. I force fed him baby food this > morning. I could kick myself because I told the vet > to call in a prescrip in liquid form, because Cricket > takes liquid better than pills, but the stuff smells > and tastes horrible and he gags on it (did you know > you could fill a prescrip for an animal at > Walmart?!!!-I thought pharmacies were for people > medicine only). The vet didn't have time to get the > cream for his ear compounded before I left for the > weekend, so I'm working on getting that today. When I > got home, Cricket was very weak. He probably didn't > eat or drink much while I was gone, but I think if I > can get his strength back up with good food and water, > he will be fine. One wonderful thing: I noticed as I > was giving him his meds he has some pink back in his > gums, so his body must have stopped or slowed killing > the red blood cells! Hallelujah! If we can just get > him over this hump, I think he might get that virus > back into remission. He seems to be hanging in there > and fighting. A million thanks and blessings again to > all of you who help, encourage, and listen to everyone > here on this webtalk page. > > :) > Wendy > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > >
Re: Update on Cricket 11-07-05
Wow, glad to hear he's hanging in there and that his gums are pink - and glad to hear that you had a break in Corpus Christi! Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:23 AM, wendy wrote: Hi Guys, I hope your weekend was a relaxing one. I did manage to relax in Corpus Christi some, which I needed. My mom, aunt, and cousin went by the house on Saturday and gave Cricket his Prednisolone and Cyproheptadine and loved on him quite a bit. My best friend came by Sunday and gave him his Prednisolone. I got home last night and gave him his meds and he drank quite a bit of tuna juice. I force fed him baby food this morning. I could kick myself because I told the vet to call in a prescrip in liquid form, because Cricket takes liquid better than pills, but the stuff smells and tastes horrible and he gags on it (did you know you could fill a prescrip for an animal at Walmart?!!!-I thought pharmacies were for people medicine only). The vet didn't have time to get the cream for his ear compounded before I left for the weekend, so I'm working on getting that today. When I got home, Cricket was very weak. He probably didn't eat or drink much while I was gone, but I think if I can get his strength back up with good food and water, he will be fine. One wonderful thing: I noticed as I was giving him his meds he has some pink back in his gums, so his body must have stopped or slowed killing the red blood cells! Hallelujah! If we can just get him over this hump, I think he might get that virus back into remission. He seems to be hanging in there and fighting. A million thanks and blessings again to all of you who help, encourage, and listen to everyone here on this webtalk page. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: risk of contagion Q
I don't vaccinate my negs - They have had vacs a long time back, but they're healthy and indoor, so I don't do vacs. Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 9:03 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against FeLV. Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Felvtalk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything including food dishes, have for over 10 years. All of my negatives are still negative. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
To Ken and Max
Hi Ken, My name is Wendy. Welcome to the group and I hope it is as wonderful a source for you as it has been for me. You and I have very similar situations right now. My kitty Cricket has been hanging in there for the past three weeks. To be honest, I haven't seen a marked improvement in Cricket since he has been on ImmunoRegulin, and I think he got depressed when I went out of town this weekend and didn't eat or drink much, so I'm just trying to get his strength back up. Cricket is on Prednisolone. I am also trying to give him Cyproheptadine for appetite stimulation, but he doesn't like the taste of it at all and gags on it. Like you, I struggled with the idea of a transfusion, but the cost is just too much. Shoot, if I knew how to do it myself, I would. I have enough cats to choose from as donors. lol. I want to encourage you to continue hoping and praying for Max's recovery. Our little furballs gain strength from us, so don't give up. I will keep Max in my prayers. Keep us posted on his health. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: OT: blue star ointment made RW worse?
Here's an idea... glue some of those Soft Paw nail caps on her BACK feet, that would work! http://www.softpaws.com/ Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal."~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005
Re: OT: blue star ointment made RW worse?
Oh, yes, I am on two FIV lists (6 years) but my FIV+ are on Itraconazole. Emily is negative for FIV/FeLV. Her eyes are okay, don't care about fur loss, she does have two mountain range scabs and other scabs; this am an oozy area and she whacks at it with her back foot ... told her that was a no-no. If no improvement in another day she will begin an abx. I am oh-so ambivalent about continuing the fulvicin ... it seems to do no good and yet would it be worse if they were not on it ... no one can answer that. Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:37 PM Subject: Re: OT: blue star ointment made RW worse? How bad is her face now? Does she have open wounds, or is it just irritated and hairless? I speak from personal experience... losing hair is not that bad of a thing, my Mythic cat's allergies are so bad he is often half bald... on his entire body. It will grow back eventually (RW is temporary, unlike my poor Mythic's allergies, which are chronic). I would only worry a lot if it is causing her to get irritated in her eyes (like eruptions on the inside of the eye lids), or if it is open wounds. From what I have heard, some of the treatments for RW are 10 times more dangerous than the condition itself. On the FIV+ list a few months back there was a RW discussion, and it was noted that the medication you said your cats are on (I don't recall the name now, but I recognized it in your email) has been proven to kill FIV cats. FELV is not that much different from FIV in regards to immune system responses. You could join that group and ask them there for more info... I don't recall the details now. It's http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FivCats/ Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal."~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005
Re: risk of contagion Q
Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs? I did in the past. When I moved up north, from Arkansas, none of my cats had ever been vaccinated against anything. Moogie (the FELV+) was born while in AR. I did not find out she was positive until over a year later, when she first became ill. She had been mixed with the others all that time, NONE of them ever vaccinated. All of the negatives that I had at that time STILL test negative to this day. (though they have all been vaccinated ONCE against FELV [when we first found out Moogie had it, my vet advised the vaccine for the others] and 3 times with the standard 3-way feline combo vaccines, plus rabies since then). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal."~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005
Re: Website for Disabled Pets
I have quite a few similar sites on my webpage as well: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html (scroll down to handicapped and special needs section) Some of my links are bad, I know, I am lacking time to do through updates! Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal."~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005
Update on Cricket 11-07-05
Hi Guys, I hope your weekend was a relaxing one. I did manage to relax in Corpus Christi some, which I needed. My mom, aunt, and cousin went by the house on Saturday and gave Cricket his Prednisolone and Cyproheptadine and loved on him quite a bit. My best friend came by Sunday and gave him his Prednisolone. I got home last night and gave him his meds and he drank quite a bit of tuna juice. I force fed him baby food this morning. I could kick myself because I told the vet to call in a prescrip in liquid form, because Cricket takes liquid better than pills, but the stuff smells and tastes horrible and he gags on it (did you know you could fill a prescrip for an animal at Walmart?!!!-I thought pharmacies were for people medicine only). The vet didn't have time to get the cream for his ear compounded before I left for the weekend, so I'm working on getting that today. When I got home, Cricket was very weak. He probably didn't eat or drink much while I was gone, but I think if I can get his strength back up with good food and water, he will be fine. One wonderful thing: I noticed as I was giving him his meds he has some pink back in his gums, so his body must have stopped or slowed killing the red blood cells! Hallelujah! If we can just get him over this hump, I think he might get that virus back into remission. He seems to be hanging in there and fighting. A million thanks and blessings again to all of you who help, encourage, and listen to everyone here on this webtalk page. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: risk of contagion Q
Title: RE: risk of contagion Q Well, I vaccinate my 3 negs now but they were all exposed to one of my pos for several years before I knew she was pos. I got them all as kittens so they were exposed at a very early age—shared food, litter, groomed each other and all those other things cats do! All tested neg starting last year…. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: risk of contagion Q Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against FeLV. Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything including food dishes, have for over 10 years. All of my negatives are still negative. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: risk of contagion Q
Hi Kerry, My negatives are all vaccinated, this is what has worked for us for 10 years so I won't change anything. It is my understanding though that a healthy, adult cat with a healthy immune system would probably be OK. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: risk of contagion Q
No. I'd say a young adult. A year, maybe, give or take a month or two either way -- at the time I trapped her."MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Susan---that's very interesting. How old was the feral kitty at the time. Not a kitten, I'm thinking? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:22 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: risk of contagion Q I have done that but not on purpose! I had a feral cat in a carrier in my living room where I had maybe 1/2 dozen feline leukemia positive cats and kittens at the time. She got away from me and hid it the room - and was there for a full 9 months before I was able to catch her. Ate and drank from the same bowls, used the same litterbox, slept together. She was not vaccinated and when I caught her and had her spayed she was tested - totally negative. It was at that point I decided that the disease might not be as easily transmitted as it has a reputation for being. I let my negatives and positives mix part of the time and if I did not have foster cats from a rescue group would do it all the time."MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against FeLV. Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything including food dishes, have for over 10 years. All of my negatives are still negative. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. =00 IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: risk of contagion Q
Title: Message Susan---that's very interesting. How old was the feral kitty at the time. Not a kitten, I'm thinking? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:22 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: risk of contagion Q I have done that but not on purpose! I had a feral cat in a carrier in my living room where I had maybe 1/2 dozen feline leukemia positive cats and kittens at the time. She got away from me and hid it the room - and was there for a full 9 months before I was able to catch her. Ate and drank from the same bowls, used the same litterbox, slept together. She was not vaccinated and when I caught her and had her spayed she was tested - totally negative. It was at that point I decided that the disease might not be as easily transmitted as it has a reputation for being. I let my negatives and positives mix part of the time and if I did not have foster cats from a rescue group would do it all the time."MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against FeLV. Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything including food dishes, have for over 10 years. All of my negatives are still negative. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: risk of contagion Q
I have done that but not on purpose! I had a feral cat in a carrier in my living room where I had maybe 1/2 dozen feline leukemia positive cats and kittens at the time. She got away from me and hid it the room - and was there for a full 9 months before I was able to catch her. Ate and drank from the same bowls, used the same litterbox, slept together. She was not vaccinated and when I caught her and had her spayed she was tested - totally negative. It was at that point I decided that the disease might not be as easily transmitted as it has a reputation for being. I let my negatives and positives mix part of the time and if I did not have foster cats from a rescue group would do it all the time."MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against FeLV. Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything including food dishes, have for over 10 years. All of my negatives are still negative. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: risk of contagion Q
Title: RE: risk of contagion Q Belinda, Gloria, Nina, Kerrywhat I don't know about the cats involved (in accidentally eating the positive's food) is whether they are vaccinated against FeLV. Here's a Q that I keep meaning to ask you (and everyone else who mixes): Do any of you mix successfully WITHOUT vaccinating your negs? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: risk of contagion Q Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything including food dishes, have for over 10 years. All of my negatives are still negative. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: risk of contagion Q
Bailey (my positive) and all of his housemates share everything including food dishes, have for over 10 years. All of my negatives are still negative. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Emilio/Frito -- fundraising idea?
Nancy, that's GREAT! Good for you! Gloria On Nov 6, 2005, at 5:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crissy, in my opinion, Frito and Emilio should stay in their home! I personally have 16 cats, 3 of whom are positive now and several others in the past who have sadly lost the battle. All share each others lives closely, and NO ONE has ever caught this illness. Get your older cats vaccinated; if Frito hasn't aleady caught the virus, he very likely won't, and if he does, well, then you have 2 cats with leukemia. I have 2 girls who came to me with it, at 9 and 4 months of age, and threw it off at 12/7 months and are free at 13/5 years later. Never give up!! Please reconsider letting ther babies stay. Luv, Nancy and her MC
Website for Disabled Pets
A friend sent me this website. There are lots of aids for animals who are disabled plus a lot of information that may be useful both for dogs and cats. http://www.handicappedpets.com