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Hello my Dear,
I know I don't have to tell you how heartsick I am over Ginger's
passing. Thank you for sharing so many wonderful memories of her and
her happy life with you. I haven't been on the computer for a while
and I'm in shock to hear how quickly all this transpired. Your Mom
must be pretty upset over losing her too. Love to all of you. I wish
I could say something to help you through your grief. I still miss my
Angels, still long to hold them, still smile through my tears when I
think of the antics that used to make me laugh. It's so hard to move
on, but what can we do? Hold her in your heart the way you used to
hold her to your breast. They're all still with us, but the pain of
losing their sweet physical presences is so, so sorrowful. Sometimes
it helps me to know that the sorrow I feel is in direct proportion to
the joy they have brought me. Keep yourself open to the memories of
joy from those who have crossed and the joys all around you from those
still in your care.
Blessings and hugs to all those that have lost fur-loves and all those
that are suffering with them in their illnesses,
Nina

Re: CLS for Buffy


Tad and Marie,
I'm sorry to hear about Buffy.  Her roller coaster rebounds remind me of 
Gracie.  She too always seemed to be fighting for her health, she too 
would rebound time and time again.  After she passed, I looked back on 
my notes about her and was surprised to see just how often she was in 
trouble during her short life.  The times she was healthy and vibrant 
stood out so much more vividly in my experience of her.  How are the 
other Angel Wings kids doing?  I'm praying that they will be strong and 
healthy for a long, long time to come.  You sure could use a respite 
from illness and loss. 

I'm so pleased to hear how fit Switters is!  Isn't it marvelous how 
quickly he seems to be acclimating to your household?  Blessings to Jen 
for helping him regain his health and retain his love of life and 
incredible attitude.  Please let us know how everyone is doing.


With many thanks to you and Marie,
Nina

Tad Burnett wrote:


 Sadly my Buffy cat passed away early Sunday morning...
She is the 4th of the Angel Wings 6 FeLV+ to go way too soon...
She was always much closer to Marie than she was to me... I guess
she had not been treated well by men before coming to us..
She had always been the sickly one, not very strong and had more
times that we worried about her than the others but with meds she
had always bounced back but this last time it was not meant to be...
She went down right after we lost Callie and then after we lost
OJ just a couple weeks ago she started sleeping on my pillow
which was something new and that's where she was Sunday morning...
Usually when she would stop eating we would syringe a couple CC's
and then she would eat the rest on her own but her last feeding
Saturday night she was very uncomfortable swallowing and we sort
of knew her time was near
We miss our sweet Buffy cat but we know that she is waiting for us
at The Rainbow Bridge with Winky and Callie and OJ

Sleep Well Sweet Buffy
Tad and Marie

Belinda and Bailey


Belinda,
I've been off-list for a while and haven't seen a recent update about 
Bailey.  How are you guys doing?  You've never been far from my thoughts 
and always in my prayers.  I can only imagine how difficult his 
condition has been on you both.  I know how hard it can be to keep your 
spirits up when someone you love is in the midst of such a valiant 
battle for health.  Please be good to yourself, remember to eat, get 
some sleep, allow yourself to laugh and smile as much as you can.  
Relish the time you share just being together.  Spend some quiet time 
each day surrounding yourselves in in the love and support that you give 
to each other.  Isn't it amazing how our sick little angels continue to 
send us support, even when they are so very weak themselves?  Sending 
strength and light to you both,

Nina

Re: 2 more babies to add to the CLS


Oh Susan!
How very sad that you've lost your two sweet older fellas!  I am sure 
that Mr. Kitty and Red Man are up in Heaven singing your praises.  How 
wonderful that you were able to make their final home so secure and 
loving.  Shame on those people that threw Mr. Kitty away like that!  
Bless you for opening your heart and home up again and again to these 
most deserving souls.  You must be one courageous, loving woman to have 
the strength to do so.


Thank you so very much, our world is a better place because of your 
dedication.  People like you give me hope that we are indeed traveling 
in the right direction.

Much love to you in your grief,
Nina


Susan Loesch wrote:

Well, I guess sometimes when it rains it pours.  Early Saturday 
morning I lost two more of my fosters, both negative.  Red Man was an 
older orange tabby who had chronic sinusitis and asthma.  He got a 
pretty bad URI and it went into pneumonia.  Red Man was the sweetest 
old fella - sometimes he'd wake me up in the middle of the night 
pawing at my face wanting to be petted.Mr. Kitty was also an older 
fella - his previous owner of over 10 years got married and the new 
wife didn't like Mr. Kitty.  They stuck him in a cage at vet clinic 
while trying to find a new home and he was so traumatized that the vet 
said he was feral and needed to be euthanized.  Of course he wasn't 
the least bit feral, just scared.  He was never a cuddly boy altho he 
wanted to be in the same room with me but in the last few weeks he 
started cuddling up with me at night as close as he could get and 
following me everywhere I went.  He'd been fighting renal failure for 
some time.  My house and my heart are even emptier than they were last 
week.

Re: Prayers for Gideon





Sherry,
How is Gideon doing? I can only imagine how difficult it is on you to
walk heart first into all this sorrow. How brave you are and noble,
(yes noble), to share your love and concern with those that need it so
much. The visual you paint of Gideon showing his gratitude for your
caring touch brought tears to my eyes. Never underestimate the benefit
received in sharing your unconditional love. It's the quality, not the
quantity that makes the difference. Prayers for Gideon, you and
everyone that touches your life through their need,
Nina

Sherry DeHaan wrote:

  Hello all,please could you add Gideon one of our rescue cats to
the many prayers needed here on these boards? He is just not looking
good,and I got him to eat a couple treats,he climbed into my lap and
purred and meowed at me with a sweet little meow that just made me
cry.I get so upset when these babies are not feeling good.
  I will add everyone here into my long list of prayers.Thanks
   
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Re: 2 more babies to add to the CLS

Thanks, Nina. These old fellas are just very special, aren't they. We all were thinking that by now Mr. Kitty's owner - they guy who got married - must be paying for giving Mr. Kitty up -- by living with a very controlling wife! We all think he deserves it. I've got to wonder how much you love someone when you don't love the animals that they love.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Susan!How very sad that you've lost your two sweet older fellas! I am sure that Mr. Kitty and Red Man are up in Heaven singing your praises. How wonderful that you were able to make their final home so secure and loving. Shame on those people that threw Mr. Kitty away like that! Bless you for opening your heart and home up again and again to these most deserving souls. You must be one courageous, loving woman to have
the strength to do so.Thank you so very much, our world is a better place because of your dedication. People like you give me hope that we are indeed traveling in the right direction.Much love to you in your grief,NinaSusan Loesch wrote: Well, I guess sometimes when it rains it pours. Early Saturday morning I lost two more of my fosters, both negative. Red Man was an older orange tabby who had chronic sinusitis and asthma. He got a pretty bad URI and it went into pneumonia. Red Man was the sweetest old fella - sometimes he'd wake me up in the middle of the night pawing at my face wanting to be petted. Mr. Kitty was also an older fella - his previous owner of over 10 years got married and the new wife didn't like Mr. Kitty. They stuck him in a cage at vet clinic while trying to find a new home and he was so traumatized that the vet said he was feral and
needed to be euthanized. Of course he wasn't the least bit feral, just scared. He was never a cuddly boy altho he wanted to be in the same room with me but in the last few weeks he started cuddling up with me at night as close as he could get and following me everywhere I went. He'd been fighting renal failure for some time. My house and my heart are even emptier than they were last week.

Re: 2 more babies to add to the CLS

It seems to me that Mr. Kitty paid a very dear price to give his owner 
an opportunity to see just how bad his judgement in women must be!  I do 
hope they both somehow benefit from his sacrifice.  They must define 
love in a very different way then we do.  Thank you again for being 
there to ease Mr. Kitty's distress and confirming that some humans are 
trustworthy.

Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:

Thanks, Nina.  These old fellas are just very special, aren't they.  
We all were thinking that by now Mr. Kitty's owner - they guy who got 
married - must be paying for giving Mr. Kitty up  -- by living with a 
very controlling wife!  We all think he deserves it.  I've got to 
wonder how much you love someone when you don't love the animals that 
they love.

Re: 2 more babies to add to the CLS

He paid a very dear price, indeed. I think the couple of months he spent caged at the vet, so traumatized that he was considered feral, damaged his health to the point that it shortened his life.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  It seems to me that Mr. Kitty paid a very dear price to give his owner an opportunity to see just how bad his judgement in women must be! I do hope they both somehow benefit from his sacrifice. They must define "love" in a very different way then we do. Thank you again for being there to ease Mr. Kitty's distress and confirming that some humans are trustworthy.NinaSusan Loesch wrote: Thanks, Nina. These old fellas are just very special, aren't they.  We all were thinking that by now Mr. Kitty's owner - they guy who got  married - must be paying for giving Mr. Kitty
 up -- by living with a  very controlling wife! We all think he deserves it. I've got to  wonder how much you love someone when you don't love the animals that  they love.

Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan





It helped Ginger get over a bad URI last spring, and Patches get over 
pneumonia a few years ago.
Michelle

In a message dated 2/15/2006 10:54:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anybody 
  else have experience with immuno-regulan?

Re: Smokey Update





Are you giving these shots IV or sub-q? One person said she gave them 
sub-q, but the bottle says it has to be IV...
Michelle

In a message dated 2/17/2006 9:59:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He 
  hashad 2 shots now and she is letting me give him therest at 
  home.

Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan

2006-02-23 Thread cindy reasoner

I started Smokey on immuno-regulan last Wednesday.  He
recieved shots for 4 days and then 2 shots per week. 
His problem was a recurring fever.  So far he is fever
free.  He has been eating good and playing.  He is
also taking Baytril and Clavamox but I think the
immuno-regulan has helped him with his fevers.  I am
keeping my fingers crossed.  This has been the 1st
week in over a month that we haven't had to make a
trip to the vet or go in as an emergency.

Cindy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 It helped Ginger get over a bad URI last spring, and
 Patches get over  
 pneumonia a few years ago.
 Michelle
  
 In a message dated 2/15/2006 10:54:01 A.M. Eastern
 Standard Time,  
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Re: Smokey Update

2006-02-23 Thread cindy reasoner

The vet fixed the shots for me and gave me enough for
2 weeks.  She doesn't call it immuno-regulin but I
can't think of the name of it but when I mentioned
immuno-regulin she said that it was the same thing.  I
can look tonight and tell you tomorrow.  She didn't
say anything about IV.

Cindy



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 Are you giving these shots IV or sub-q? One person
 said she gave them  sub-q, 
 but the bottle says it has to be IV...
 Michelle
  
 In a message dated 2/17/2006 9:59:25 A.M. Eastern
 Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 He  has
 had 2 shots now and she is letting me give him the
 rest at  home. 
 
 
  
 


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Re: Smokey Update

2006-02-23 Thread wendy

Hey Cindy,

Equistim or something like that is probably what the
vet called it.  It is the same thing as ImmunoRegulin.
 Is your kitty getting the IR injected into a vein in
the arm/leg or are you just giving kitty the injection
in the skin (like sub-Q)?

:)
Wendy

--- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The vet fixed the shots for me and gave me enough
 for
 2 weeks.  She doesn't call it immuno-regulin but I
 can't think of the name of it but when I mentioned
 immuno-regulin she said that it was the same thing. 
 I
 can look tonight and tell you tomorrow.  She didn't
 say anything about IV.
 
 Cindy
 
 
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
  Are you giving these shots IV or sub-q? One person
  said she gave them  sub-q, 
  but the bottle says it has to be IV...
  Michelle
   
  In a message dated 2/17/2006 9:59:25 A.M. Eastern
  Standard Time,  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  He  has
  had 2 shots now and she is letting me give him the
  rest at  home. 
  
  
   
  
 
 
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Re: Smokey Update

2006-02-23 Thread cindy reasoner

Yes that is the name of it. I am just giving him an
injection in the skin.  I have a diabetic cat (Katie)
that I have to give insulin shots.  The needle sure
isn't as easy to get in the skin as an insulin needle
and I don't have much experience giving shots but I
get it done.  The other vet I was taking Smokey  to
didn't mention immuno-regulin to me and I am glad I
took him to this new vet.  I still use the old vet for
all of my other kitties but I just felt like maybe
they were not very good with cats with felv.

Cindy  





--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Cindy,
 
 Equistim or something like that is probably what the
 vet called it.  It is the same thing as
 ImmunoRegulin.
  Is your kitty getting the IR injected into a vein
 in
 the arm/leg or are you just giving kitty the
 injection
 in the skin (like sub-Q)?
 
 :)
 Wendy
 
 --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The vet fixed the shots for me and gave me enough
  for
  2 weeks.  She doesn't call it immuno-regulin but I
  can't think of the name of it but when I mentioned
  immuno-regulin she said that it was the same
 thing. 
  I
  can look tonight and tell you tomorrow.  She
 didn't
  say anything about IV.
  
  Cindy
  
  
  
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

   Are you giving these shots IV or sub-q? One
 person
   said she gave them  sub-q, 
   but the bottle says it has to be IV...
   Michelle

   In a message dated 2/17/2006 9:59:25 A.M.
 Eastern
   Standard Time,  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
   He  has
   had 2 shots now and she is letting me give him
 the
   rest at  home. 
   
   

   
  
  
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Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan

I've been going to ask the same question - if anyone has experience with this. I have a little 14mo old feleuk+ baby, Daisy, who is not only a joy to me but to all my kids at school. I want to go the extra mile with her from the beginning - there would be so many more people than just me to be heartbroken at her death.I have just gotten immuno-regulan for monthly doses for a 10 yr old feleuk girl, Calico, who just came into our rescue group. She has been maintained on monthly shots for 7-8 years so we are going to keep it up. Daisy gets daily interferon but she still has trouble throwing URI's - and she is underweight. I just have the gut feeling that she isn't going to be a really long-term survivor. I have been thinking about adding the immunoregulan to what she gets. All my info says that it has to be IV. Found a protocol - don't remember exactly but you start off with daily shots andwork
 upto monthy. Is that what everyone uses? Does anyone have experience with any better rusults using both that and interferon? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It helped Ginger get over a bad URI last spring, and Patches get over pneumonia a few years ago.  MichelleIn a message dated 2/15/2006 10:54:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  Anybody else have experience with immuno-regulan?

Re: Smokey Update

Wow, it would be great to find out that I can give the IR subQ.cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  The vet fixed the shots for me and gave me enough for2 weeks. She doesn't call it immuno-regulin but Ican't think of the name of it but when I mentionedimmuno-regulin she said that it was the same thing. Ican look tonight and tell you tomorrow. She didn'tsay anything about IV.Cindy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Are you giving these shots IV or sub-q? One person said she gave them sub-q,  but the bottle says it has to be IV... Michelle  In a message dated 2/17/2006 9:59:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  He has had 2 shots now and she is letting me give him the rest
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Michelle - what dosage did you use to treat a URI with IR? Particularly if you can do it subQ that is something I really need to try.cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I started Smokey on immuno-regulan last Wednesday. Herecieved shots for 4 days and then 2 shots per week. His problem was a recurring fever. So far he is feverfree. He has been eating good and playing. He isalso taking Baytril and Clavamox but I think theimmuno-regulan has helped him with his fevers. I amkeeping my fingers crossed. This has been the 1stweek in over a month that we haven't had to make atrip to the vet or go in as an emergency.Cindy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  It helped Ginger get over a bad URI last spring, and Patches get over  pneumonia a few years ago.
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Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan





1 ml, but Ginger got a high fever for about an hour afterwards from that 
dose. Patches did fine on it. You can do .5 ml instead. With a kitten, I 
would think the dose would need to be less.
Michelle

In a message dated 2/23/2006 4:08:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle 
  - what dosage did you use to treat a URI with IR? Particularly if you 
  can do it subQ that is something I really need to 
try.

Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan

for how long?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:1 ml, but Ginger got a high fever for about an hour afterwards from that dose. Patches did fine on it. You can do .5 ml instead. With a kitten, I would think the dose would need to be less.  MichelleIn a message dated 2/23/2006 4:08:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  Michelle - what dosage did you use to treat a URI with IR? Particularly if you can do it subQ that is something I really need to try.

Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan





I think I did two shots, 3 days apart, and then she got better and I 
stopped.

The cat who is 10-- she has had FeLV her whole life and done ok? I have 
never heard of giving I-R as a preventative immune booster. It's an 
interesting idea. I get scared of doing things like that because of the kind of 
side effects Ginger had, but they were short-lived, and if it can stimulate 
their immune systems to stay strong, maybe we should all be doing it 
regularly...
Michelle

In a message dated 2/23/2006 4:22:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
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for how 
  long?

Re: Smokey / immuno-regulan