RE: urgent-- fever advice needed
I absolutely agree with it - I have had kitties who were still running around like nothing is wrong when she had a temp of 105.5 - whereas I have had kitties who did not feel good at all and hiding at temp of 103... it all depends on kitties.. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: urgent-- fever advice needed At 09:21 PM 1/16/2007, you wrote: Be nice...give her a break from temps. We only take patients temps every 4 hours at the most. Look at the kitty...not the numbers.. Sort of like we say at work, Look at the patient not the machines, So glad she is feeling better, Eating is a much better indication, Kelly Thanks everyone. I think I did not have the thermometer in far enough the last time, because her temp is now 103.6, and she seems better not worse, so I think the lower reading was wrong. But she is acting almost normal now. ate a lot, came to lay with me, purring etc. Sorry for all the emails. I appreciate the support and advice. Michelle In a message dated 1/16/2007 11:53:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: eyelid (she should close her eye as your thumb approaches. If light pressure gets a pain response No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: 1/16/2007
Re: urgent-- fever advice needed
Hi Michelle, I am sorry I couldn't respond to this sooner. If you remember, Bandy had recurring fevers for well over a year...often as high as 106+.. After awhile of taking him to the vet, I had a prescription of .75mg dex for use at home...I would give him 1/2 pill at times and the temp would drop within 3 hours..sometimes, we would use the whole pill depending on how high it was and how he was acting..He didn't have any sort of infection going on though, but the dex is the drug they use to bring it down either way..I haven't had a chance to read all the responses yet either.. I did read that someone wrote about alcohol rub which is good as well as ice packs on their head.. Pred sometimes works to bring it down but not as fast as dex.. I have an ear thermometer and it didn't read as well at times either..It was .4 off from the rectal at the vet..but I got to where I could tell about Bandy's temp since he had it almost every 8 days like clock work.. I do hope all is well now..If you can get some pill form dex, it is a good thing to have on hand..I have always tried to keep some here as it is good to have in case of shock or any sort of emergency.. Keep us posted, Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.
Re: Antonio
Thank you. I'll call the vet about that today. On 1/17/07, Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I do too. The s/o NORMALIZES the pH of the urine which deals with both struvite and oxalate AND makes it OK for the kitty without the problem to eat it too. The only thing you really have to worry about is that the s/o is a pretty high calorie food. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:03:22 PM Subject: Re: Antonio Elizabeth, I just feed ALL my cats the prescription diet. I use royal canin s/o which is for both types of crystals. It's expensive, but I can't separate everyone's food.. t *elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Thank you, Kerry. ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain. He just peed everywhere, bless his little heart. He was screaming. This they did before I even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything. Once they finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't even pee on my silk shirt. He loves his mommy. Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get it. They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't he need some special prescription food too? The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their nails. Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening. I did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going back down there! That's my BABY! It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food. Maybe it's just the 8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop their heads together. Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there. The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain. I hope he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. *** END RANT ALERT *** Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again. I promise, I'll try very hard. elizabeth On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *elizabeth trent *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the
RE: Sanctuaries
You forgot to mention how he clashes with the drapes. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Sanctuaries Haha! I'll email them, if no one else wants to... and pretend to be giving up my cat. LOL! That sounds immensely fun! (how many of us rescuers ever get the chance to be on the other end, LOL) Hi, my name is Julia, and I have to get rid of my cat because my new husband is allergic to him, plus I'm pregnant and don't want to catch toxoplasmosis from him or have him lay on my baby and suffocate it. He doesn't use his litterbox all the time, and my husband says it's him or the cat. He is a good kitty, but he has cat AIDS. He's never been sick so far though. He's never been around kids and is scared of dogs. He's neutered and four paw declawed. Can you take him? I have to get rid of him ASAP! His name is Shadow and he's a solid black shorthaired cat. How's that? ...LOL, did I forget anything? Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Sanctuaries
but basic black goes with everything, doesn't it? On 1/17/07, Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to mention how he clashes with the drapes. Diane R. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:34 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: Sanctuaries Haha! I'll email them, if no one else wants to... and pretend to be giving up my cat. LOL! That sounds immensely fun! (how many of us rescuers ever get the chance to be on the other end, LOL) Hi, my name is Julia, and I have to get rid of my cat because my new husband is allergic to him, plus I'm pregnant and don't want to catch toxoplasmosis from him or have him lay on my baby and suffocate it. He doesn't use his litterbox all the time, and my husband says it's him or the cat. He is a good kitty, but he has cat AIDS. He's never been sick so far though. He's never been around kids and is scared of dogs. He's neutered and four paw declawed. Can you take him? I have to get rid of him ASAP! His name is Shadow and he's a solid black shorthaired cat. How's that? ...LOL, did I forget anything? Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
RE: Sanctuaries
My dear, black cats are so Five Minutes Ago... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Sanctuaries but basic black goes with everything, doesn't it? On 1/17/07, Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to mention how he clashes with the drapes. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Sanctuaries Haha! I'll email them, if no one else wants to... and pretend to be giving up my cat. LOL! That sounds immensely fun! (how many of us rescuers ever get the chance to be on the other end, LOL) Hi, my name is Julia, and I have to get rid of my cat because my new husband is allergic to him, plus I'm pregnant and don't want to catch toxoplasmosis from him or have him lay on my baby and suffocate it. He doesn't use his litterbox all the time, and my husband says it's him or the cat. He is a good kitty, but he has cat AIDS. He's never been sick so far though. He's never been around kids and is scared of dogs. He's neutered and four paw declawed. Can you take him? I have to get rid of him ASAP! His name is Shadow and he's a solid black shorthaired cat. How's that? ...LOL, did I forget anything? Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
At 08:37 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: STRANGE INDEED. I would find out where this person got rid of the cat and if it was the SPCA should never be adopted out ot, My response would be Please take that love and go volunteer at the shelter . Kelly lane This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org/http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: 1/16/2007
Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
I would not adopt to him if he dumped the cat. I am just trying to figure out how to answer his question - is being lonely a good reason to adopt a cat? I guess my question is what happens if he gets a girlfriend and is no longer lonely, is the cat going to end up ignored? On 1/17/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:37 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: STRANGE INDEED. I would find out where this person got rid of the cat and if it was the SPCA should never be adopted out ot, My response would be Please take that love and go volunteer at the shelter . Kelly lane This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: 1/16/2007 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
I'm inclined to agree. Suggest that she volunteer or foster for a rescue rather than adopt. I've lived in the Bay Area since 1978, and lived in SF for the first 25 of those years. I've lost and found a lot of jobs in that time, moved from apartment to apartment, spent part of my 20s on unemployment and foodstamps, but I never gave my cats away. The person who wrote sounds depressed, says she has no life in sight. Doesn't say that she has her finances in order or that she has developed better coping skills (and it sounds like she has NOT developed better coping skills). Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:37 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: STRANGE INDEED. I would find out where this person got rid of the cat and if it was the SPCA should never be adopted out ot, My response would be Please take that love and go volunteer at the shelter . Kelly lane This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: 1/16/2007
Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
Do volunteer work at a shelter --- is a great response. Gloria At 10:41 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: At 08:37 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: STRANGE INDEED. I would find out where this person got rid of the cat and if it was the SPCA should never be adopted out ot, My response would be Please take that love and go volunteer at the shelter . Kelly lane This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org/http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: 1/16/2007
Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question? -TRY NOT TO JUDGE
Why not ask him to foster? Short term care will allow him to know if he really wants a cat or not...or can afford one. I'd be leary to adopt one of mine to him...but wouldn't rule it completely outpeople do and can grow. (I've been unemployed and know how scarry that can be...sometimes turning an animal back into a shelter, as horrible as it is...is more humane than dumping it (most people don't know about rescues...or how to get in contact with them...then just try finding a good one that has room and will agree to take the cat...heck, I've met numberous people that didn't realize pounds actually KILLED the unwanted animals- God's truth!)...or having it euthanized right off...if you wind up on the streets...what kind of a life is THAT for someone you love? If he IS to adopt again, it should be from a rescuer and not a shelter...that way the rescuer can stay in touch. I ALWAYS offer to take an animal I've adopted out, back, at ANY TIME during their lives, no judgement on the adopter. Its hard, but that way I KNOW the whereabouts of the animal...I also keep in touch as much as possible. Cards every year...or a phone call, e-mails hi Anne!, give and get info. everytime one of them or myself moves. Its difficult, but...its worked out well for most of my ex-charges. I still know the whereabouts of about 70% of themand have re-homed approx. 5% of that 70%. And yes, I worry about the other 30%..but, we can only do what we can do Please don't reply with any kind of seemingly self-rightous, or judgemental answer. We can not educate the public if we come off holier-than-thou and belittle them. All that serves is making us (rescuers) look like nuts and those who actually thought to seek advice (a GOOD sign really)...once turned away in that manner, will be adverse to seek out advice in the future for fear of belittlement and will just continue to repeat the ol' love-um leave-um patterns...making more work for us in the future. Good luck. T Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not adopt to him if he dumped the cat. I am just trying to figure out how to answer his question - is being lonely a good reason to adopt a cat? I guess my question is what happens if he gets a girlfriend and is no longer lonely, is the cat going to end up ignored? On 1/17/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:37 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: STRANGE INDEED. I would find out where this person got rid of the cat and if it was the SPCA should never be adopted out ot, My response would be Please take that love and go volunteer at the shelter . Kelly lane This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: 1/16/2007 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
RE: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
This sounds like a wonderful idea. The person sounds kind of lonely, and volunteering would get them out of the house and among people, as well as among cats. They would have an outlet for their love of cats, it would be doing a lot of cats a lot of good, and maybe the mother would forgive them. I wouldn't be quite this harsh on the person though, even if they did surrender a cat to the SPCA -- people sometimes don't know better. Chances are they were going through a lot of stuff at the time, and might not have had time, money or inner resources to search for an alternative. (My first cat died of kidney failure a few days after I was told I'd be out of a job by the end of the month, and her replacement, who I may have gotten too soon under the circumstances, was very reclusive to the point I couldn't find her anywhere in the apartment. I couldn't figure out how, but I had to conclude that she had slipped out of my apartment, down 2 flights of stairs and out the heavy metal door. It was February, I had no car, I was still away from home 11.5 hours a day, and I just couldn't do the kind of exhaustive search they recommend, so I very sadly had to hope that she had found her way to someone's house and they had taken her in. It was very hard but I was used up in every way. Maybe this person was in a similar place when they surrendered the cat.) (Later I found my Phoebe alive and well, in my apartment, btw.) Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question? At 08:37 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: STRANGE INDEED. I would find out where this person got rid of the cat and if it was the SPCA should never be adopted out ot, My response would be Please take that love and go volunteer at the shelter . Kelly lane This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org http://www.rescuties.org/ Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: 1/16/2007 This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
volunteer at the shelter what a good answer. Our local bird rescue requires that all adopters put in a number of volunteer hours before being allowed to adopt. I've never given up an animal, and I detest it when people do, but I think that with the right screening, this should not preclude him from ever adopting an animal ever again for the rest of his life. If he did it again, or if there was abuse or neglect involved, then he would be on my never, ever list. How stable is his job/living situation now? Does he have an emergency fund or a plan that would protect the cat in the event that he lost another job? If not, what about training him as a foster instead of owning? I'm pretty anti-social and don't like too many people, but somehow I believe that sometimes growth and learning are possible, otherwise what's the point of living? Just the fact that he is asking for an outside, objective opinion is kind of good, IMHO. Then again, I am not in rescue and haven't had to deal with hoardes of ding-dongs surrenduring their animals. Though I have adopted a fair number from idiot friends and family, over the years... Beth Original Message: At 08:37 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote: STRANGE INDEED. I would find out where this person got rid of the cat and if it was the SPCA should never be adopted out ot, My response would be Please take that love and go volunteer at the shelter . Kelly lane
OT Louisville Animal Ordiance
I received the below from a friend. The ordinance applies to cats too. Please feel free to cross post. Feel free to cross post these comments from someone who attended the Mayor's town hall meeting last night...this came across on my Showdog-L list. Subject: Notes From L'Ville Mayor's Town Meeting The included notes were taken at yesterday evening's town hall meeting by a person who attended the meeting. She has signed the notes, and gives permission to cross-post. After reading the remarks of the assistant to the Animal Control Officer, I'd be even less inclined to take a dog to Louisville: ** I attended the monthly public meeting of Mayor Abramson's tonight in Louisville. It was announced that it was not a public forum and no questions and answers were allowed during the formal part of the meeting. The monthly meeting obviously had more people attending than usual. After noticing the large number of hunters present with orange hats the mayor asked What hunting season is it? and someone shouted back Dog hunting!. Mayor Abramson conceded he had put his foot in his mouth. He also encouraged the audience to call 502-574-5000 ext. 311 with their problems and each call would be brought to his attention. He did not leave any further opening for audience responses. Forms were available to submit written ideas, suggestions, or concerns AFTER filling out your name, address and phone number. After the mayor introduced his administration leaders people were allowed to get in line and ask questions of individual department heads. Dr. Meloche, head of animal control, was out of town-but adoption rates at AC have increased this year according to the mayor. Meloche's assistant told me Dr. Meloche will be at the meeting next month. She also stated, in response to my questions: AC isn't trying to inconvenience responsible dog owners. Just because your neighbors report you for annoying dogs doesn't necessarily mean we are going to cite you. Ex-pens aren't illegal. We don't want to discourage dog shows. If you have seven intact dogs all you will have to do is get TWO retail/dealer licenses from AC at $300 per year to continue to breed your dogs and be in compliance with the law. We won't kill or alter your showdog if it gets loose at the dog show and is microchipped-but the law says we can and we will if we need to. We don't intend to kill or alter showdogs- but it could happen. If we do alter your showdog you will be subject to costs for surgery, boarding, and fines up to $250. We might alter or kill your showdog because we have a terrible pet overpopulation problem in our community generated by animals that aren't altered. If your animal is impounded by AC the charge for redeeming it is $25-$100 impoundment fee plus $15-25 per day boarding fee plus $30-$250 fine plus all medical costs of spay/neuter of the animal. Plus the animal will be revaccinated at your expense. All strays are held for five days unless AC is crowded and then your pet may be killed the same day it is picked up. All complaints to AC are anonymous. All animal welfare or rescue groups must be registered and have a permit issued by AC. City and county government are merged so the ordinance applies to EVERYONE even in rural areas. Also spoke with members of the LKC who attended, several hunters from Quail Unlimited, Assn of KY Sportsmen, groomers and dog breeders. A press conference scheduled by the Assn of KY Sportsmen prior to the meeting had to be canceled due to a train derailment south of L'ville. It will be rescheduled for the Feb. mayor's meeting. A cat person told me her cat show in Louisville has been canceled for this year. The majority of the crowd seemed to be there specifically because of the anti-dog ordinance. Some people were passing out lists of offenses in the ordinance that could result in a one year jail sentence-dissecting an animal in class, using a 6 ft leash on an unaltered animal, failing to dismount and dispose of manure while trail riding, etc, etc. The line of people waiting to talk to the mayor was very long-I was not able to speak with him. Prior to the mayor's meeting I stopped at the Executive Inn next to the LKC dog show site (KY Fair and EXPO Center). I met with the manager, Terry Jenks, and told him why I would not be staying at his hotel this year. He was very interested and said he had had a letter from another ex-guest who told him the same thing. Also said he would bring up the problem at a hoteliers meeting tomorrow. He may be contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] , 1-800-626-2706 or fax him at 502-363-1880. Individual council members I talked to at the mayor's mtg mostly said they couldn't talk about the ordinance because there are lawsuits pending against the council over it. When I talked with James Peden's assistant (these councilpeople can afford assistants) and asked him why Mr. Peden was out of town when the vote was taken on the
Re: urgent-- fever advice needed
Michelle, I guess there are some benefits of not being able to stay as in touch with the list as much as I'd like. It's nice to tune in just in time to have things getting better with our little Lucy out of danger. Someone mentioned how her recovery points to the fact that she's able to fend off infections, (or whatever the heck is going on). I always took heart when my guys where able to prove that their immune systems were still working. I'm sorry for your stress, and very glad to hear Lucy is feeling better. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone. I think I did not have the thermometer in far enough the last time, because her temp is now 103.6, and she seems better not worse, so I think the lower reading was wrong. But she is acting almost normal now. ate a lot, came to lay with me, purring etc. Sorry for all the emails. I appreciate the support and advice. Michelle In a message dated 1/16/2007 11:53:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: eyelid (she should close her eye as your thumb approaches. If light pressure gets a pain response
Re: Sanctuaries
Ha! You left out the ever popular, We're going to be staying with my mil while our house is being renovated and she hates cats so we need to get rid of him asap! Did I mention that he fights with other cats and hides under the bed whenever we have guests in the house? Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha! I'll email them, if no one else wants to... and pretend to be giving up my cat. LOL! That sounds immensely fun! (how many of us rescuers ever get the chance to be on the other end, LOL) Hi, my name is Julia, and I have to get rid of my cat because my new husband is allergic to him, plus I'm pregnant and don't want to catch toxoplasmosis from him or have him lay on my baby and suffocate it. He doesn't use his litterbox all the time, and my husband says it's him or the cat. He is a good kitty, but he has cat AIDS. He's never been sick so far though. He's never been around kids and is scared of dogs. He's neutered and four paw declawed. Can you take him? I have to get rid of him ASAP! His name is Shadow and he's a solid black shorthaired cat. How's that? ...LOL, did I forget anything? Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Antonio
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Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
I would make her fill out a application, find out how long she's had her job, get references, ask them about her stability, etc. Then, yes, I would adopt to her, BUT, I would need to contact the rescue she got that last cat from to be SURE she did indeed return the cat to them, and in good health. Bad times happen to good people, I don't think her situation in the past bars her from future adoptions. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
It does sound like this person is in need of some unconditional love and a boost of self esteem. The fact that they are looking for advice is a good sign, and I would do my best to not be judgmental over past mistakes. Heaven knows we've all made mistakes that we're not proud of. I wouldn't feel comfortable adopting anyone out to them though. Certainly not before they somehow showed me that they've accepted responsibility for what happened, (all the out of my control excuses show they're not quite there yet) and were resolved to never do the same thing again. I think if after further investigation I felt confident that they were now trustworthy, I'd consider the idea of fostering rather than adoption. Volunteering is a good suggestion too. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org http://www.rescuties.org/ Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Antonio
Oh thank you so much! elizabeth On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buy online: http://www.nationalpetpharmacy.com/store/product_detail.asp?pf%5Fid=30154512dept%5Fid=1078brand%5Fid=904root%5Fid=SearchRX=mscssid=E8LD1CJ6R2JQ8GQ3CVA8AS3W9G67BWW7 http://www.nationalpetpharmacy.com/store/product_detail.asp?pf%5Fid=30254505KTdept%5Fid=1078brand%5Fid=904root%5Fid=SearchRX=mscssid=E8LD1CJ6R2JQ8GQ3CVA8AS3W9G67BWW7 Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
Well, I did email this person back, and they say they don't want to foster because they would have to keep giving the kitty back and it was too hard the last time to do that. It was a good idea though. I do agree that not everyone is cut out to foster. On 1/17/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does sound like this person is in need of some unconditional love and a boost of self esteem. The fact that they are looking for advice is a good sign, and I would do my best to not be judgmental over past mistakes. Heaven knows we've all made mistakes that we're not proud of. I wouldn't feel comfortable adopting anyone out to them though. Certainly not before they somehow showed me that they've accepted responsibility for what happened, (all the out of my control excuses show they're not quite there yet) and were resolved to never do the same thing again. I think if after further investigation I felt confident that they were now trustworthy, I'd consider the idea of fostering rather than adoption. Volunteering is a good suggestion too. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org http://www.rescuties.org/ Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: urgent-- fever advice needed
Lucy's temp was normal this morning (101.6) but is now back up to 104.2 and climbing, even though I gave her fluids over an hour ago when it was 103.6. I am bringing her to the vet at 5 for an IV I-R shot. she is eating and grooming, but lethargic. I asked the vet about using dex and he said he wants me to up her pred a little instead. not sure why. Michelle
RE: urgent-- fever advice needed
HI, I don't usually use pred until I absolutely have to as it is immunosuppressant --- Michelle, if she is eating, you might want her allow her body to fight this off for a while -as sometimes, it takes for a few days to fight it off, too. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: urgent-- fever advice needed Lucy's temp was normal this morning (101.6) but is now back up to 104.2 and climbing, even though I gave her fluids over an hour ago when it was 103.6. I am bringing her to the vet at 5 for an IV I-R shot. she is eating and grooming, but lethargic. I asked the vet about using dex and he said he wants me to up her pred a little instead. not sure why. Michelle
Re: urgent-- fever advice needed
I was taking them so frequently last night because it was so high and the ER told me that if it stopped going down at any point I needed to bring her in. I've taken it a total of 3 times since last night, once this am and twice this afternoon. I will not take it again for a few hours. Thanks for the 4 hour guideline. Michelle In a message dated 1/17/2007 12:30:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 09:21 PM 1/16/2007, you wrote: Be nice...give her a break from temps. We only take patients temps every 4 hours at the most. Look at the kitty...not the numbers.. Sort of like we say at work, Look at the patient not the machines, So glad she is feeling better, Eating is a much better indication, Kelly
Re: OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
Well, they managed to give up a pet last time so it wasn't THAT hardOK, I'll be nice. Any chance they don't understand the concept of fostering? If it's a match they have first dibs to adopt and they get to make a huge difference while looking for the right match. Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I did email this person back, and they say they don't want to foster because they would have to keep giving the kitty back and it was too hard the last time to do that. It was a good idea though. I do agree that not everyone is cut out to foster. On 1/17/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does sound like this person is in need of some unconditional love and a boost of self esteem. The fact that they are looking for advice is a good sign, and I would do my best to not be judgmental over past mistakes. Heaven knows we've all made mistakes that we're not proud of. I wouldn't feel comfortable adopting anyone out to them though. Certainly not before they somehow showed me that they've accepted responsibility for what happened, (all the out of my control excuses show they're not quite there yet) and were resolved to never do the same thing again. I think if after further investigation I felt confident that they were now trustworthy, I'd consider the idea of fostering rather than adoption. Volunteering is a good suggestion too. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: This is an email I got. I've been thinking about how to respond for a while and still can't figure it out. iHi, This may seem odd, but I figured you guys would probably know best. I want to be a cat owner. I'm 27, a professional with no life in sight, and I love cats. I grew up with cats, back on my parents ranch, and simply adore them. I'd adopt one without any hesitation except for one problem. I adopted a cat before, and had to take him back to the rescue shelter I got him from. After almost 2 years with him it was very heart breaking, but I had lost my job, and the Bay Area of California is a fairly unforgiving place economically. My only close friend (we both moved there from Boerne, TX) said I could live with him and his girlfriend, but that I couldn't bring my cat. It still brings tears to my eyes when I think about him, as I truly did love him. I couldn't provide for him and had to give him up. I like to think that he's somewhere warm and nice, and that his new owners give him as much love and care as I did. My mother, who is a fanatical cat lover, almost disowned me, and will still cry about it. Anyway, as I've said, I'm alone, and want to adopt a cat to have someone to love, basically. I just don't know if that's a valid/healthy/good reason to want to adopt and figured I'd ask some professionals./i -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org http://www.rescuties.org/ Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
OT Anyone care to take a shot at this question?
Kelley, I like Tamara's suggestion of fostering, that seems nice and probationary. Don't fault the person for seeking companionship out of loneliness, even depression, he/she seems to have hit on a solution that has the potential to be mutually beneficial to them and the animal. It seems that he/she has given themselves a lot of self-punishment - there is nothing off-hand about the admission, there is remorse and it seems to be genuine, and after all, they didn't have to admit it at all. Suggesting volunteering is always a great one, but I feel as though a response that acknowledges the person's concern over the issue, and that it mirrors yours, would be appropriate. Ask him/her how things have changed if faced with the same situation now. Ask him/her how they would have handled that situation again if given the opportunity. Then make your determination of whether to proceed. Leslie
Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, against their advice, because they did not seem to think they could do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people. Except for the fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma. She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did and know others with cats who have. It is possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it. But I want to try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this. She is happy to be home for now. She ate a little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces. Please pray hard for her. It does not look good. I hope she can at least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others, though I love them too. she is my love. Michelle
Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
Michelle,many prayers going out to you and sweet Lucy.Give her a kiss for me. And hugs to you. Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, against their advice, because they did not seem to think they could do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people. Except for the fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma. She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did and know others with cats who have. It is possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it. But I want to try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this. She is happy to be home for now. She ate a little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces. Please pray hard for her. It does not look good. I hope she can at least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others, though I love them too. she is my love. Michelle - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
At 08:36 PM 1/17/2007, you wrote: Oh Michelle...you will be in my thoughts all the night. what time is it there???You are doing the very best you can and giving her so much, but it is so very hard. Please please let us know what they say. I am glad they tapped her and she is more comfortable, that is an awfully low crit... Good healing thoughts to both of you and drive carefully and care for yourself kelly Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, against their advice, because they did not seem to think they could do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people. Except for the fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma. She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did and know others with cats who have. It is possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it. But I want to try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this. She is happy to be home for now. She ate a little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces. Please pray hard for her. It does not look good. I hope she can at least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others, though I love them too. she is my love. Michelle No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.13/632 - Release Date: 1/16/2007
RE: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
I'm so sorry, Michelle. Here are vibes and prayers that you and Lucy have some good time left together. She is blessed with a great mommy. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, against their advice, because they did not seem to think they could do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people. Except for the fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma. She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did and know others with cats who have. It is possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it. But I want to try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this. She is happy to be home for now. She ate a little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces. Please pray hard for her. It does not look good. I hope she can at least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others, though I love them too. she is my love. Michelle
Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
Prayers going up for you and Lucy, Michelle. I would have brought her home too. Please let us know what the doctor says tomorrow. hugs, elizabeth On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, against their advice, because they did not seem to think they could do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people. Except for the fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma. She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did and know others with cats who have. It is possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it. But I want to try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this. She is happy to be home for now. She ate a little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces. Please pray hard for her. It does not look good. I hope she can at least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others, though I love them too. she is my love. Michelle
Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
I am so sorry, Michelle - prayers coming for Lucy - Gloria On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, against their advice, because they did not seem to think they could do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people. Except for the fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma. She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did and know others with cats who have. It is possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it. But I want to try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this. She is happy to be home for now. She ate a little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces. Please pray hard for her. It does not look good. I hope she can at least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others, though I love them too. she is my love. Michelle
