Re: Slinky - Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm so sorry for your loss Marissa. Slinky had a wonderful life with you,
and that sounds like the best and most peaceful euthanasia I've ever heard
of - everything seemed to just flow and work out. I'm so glad it went
smoothly, and he was so at peace. You absolutely did the right thing. I know
it's really hard, but please take solace in the fact that you did the VERY
BEST for him, and he is now at peace. My thoughts go out to you.

Phaewryn


Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry for the loss of Hammy, Sherry. May his spirit find peace.

Phaewryn

Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm so sorry for your loss Elizabeth. She knew love in your care, and died
knowing that someone really cared about her, and that's as much as any of us
can hope for. Peace to both of you.

Phaewryn


Re: OT - times like these are when I wish I had a camera!

2007-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, the verdict is in, the Felidae dry is barely edible. They really don't
think much of it. They will, however eat it if they are truly hungry. In my
case, that's not a bad thing, as I have a house full of obese beasties, so
not eating as much is a good thing (and it's got 4% fiber, and Tang DOES
need higher fiber, and that is higher than many other options out there).
Yes, I will sign up for the breeder/rescue program! thanks for the tip. Now,
as to the canned food, they liked the Felidae canned, they ate it fine, no
complaints, but they LOVED, and I mean totally LOVED, the Merrick canned.
Since it's only about $3-$4 more a case, I will probably give them the
Merrick canned. Try the southern delight flavor if you want to try it as a
treat, they totally loved it! The ingredients are chicken, chicken broth,
catfish, crawfish, brown rice, carrots, zucchini, apples.. and then a few
questionable things like olive oil, cassia gum, and carrageenan and then
just vitamins and such (and yucca, which I think is pointless,
personally)... but fairly far down the ingredient list, I think it's an
acceptable food (even if I do think carrots, zucchini and apples are stupid
cat food ingredients, the cats LOVED it). Protein 10%, Fat 3%, fiber 1.5%,
moisture 78%, ash 1.80%, magnesium .025%, taurine .08%, and 1025 kcal/kg.
Says feed one 5.5 OZ can per 6 LBS weight per day (so it must be fairly
rich, as that's NOT much food per day). It had some chunks of fish in it,
not all just puree, looks more like fancy feast type stuff. In the time it
took me to type this, they finished eating, and I now have FIVE very content
and happy looking cats on my bed half of which are about to be evicted,
as I am going to sleep now! Just wanted to type the quick food review, in
case anyone else is looking for new alternatives. I highly recommend the
Merrick canned.

Phaewryn

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Re: Slinky - Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread Marylyn
Slinky knew just exactly what to do and gave you a special time with him.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marissa Johnson 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:04 PM
  Subject: Slinky - Please add to the CLS


  Hi all.  I guess I need to complete the updates on Slinky, huh?  

  Yes, he went to the bridge last night.  I was having second thoughts all day 
yesterday...he, of course, perked up a bit, sat in the window sill again 
(hadn't done that in ages), and was still drinking, eating, and breathing fine. 
 I even started to wonder if his nose looked pinker.

  But I decided to go to the vet appointment and ask her what she thought - and 
that all important question, "what would you do if he were your kitty?"  

  Right before we left I think I finally understood that it really was time.  
It occurred to me that on Sunday he was very cuddly with me and initiating some 
cuddle time on his own.  But yesterday he didn't want anything to do with me.  
And when we left the vet on Monday, someone said he'd tell me when it was time, 
and I remember thinking, "I think he already has told me" but I didn't want to 
believe it.  I think his spirit left on Sunday...I think all that cuddling was 
him saying goodbye and beginning to get ready for the journey.

  So we went to the vet and I asked her if she thought his nose looked pinker.  
She looked at his gums, etc. and assured me that they were not.  I was tempted 
to have her do another CBC, but that seemed like just adding to the torture 
he'd already been through.  Without my even asking, the vet said, "If this were 
my cat, this is what I would be doing.  Not only is he not getting any better, 
but he's actually getting steadily worse...and he's just going to suffer if we 
wait much longer."  She of course pointed out that I had the option of waiting, 
but that seemed like it would just drag out the inevitable.  He was so weak the 
last couple days that he couldn't even get back on the bed once he'd gotten 
down.

  The vet explained everything in detail and even shaved some of his fur for me 
since I'd forgotten I wanted a sample (good cuz what she got was way better 
than anything I could've gotten with a scissors).  Then she gave him the 
tranquilizer (I think she did it quickly so I wouldn't have time to change my 
mind...knowing that was best for me and for Slinky).  She said it would take a 
few minutes for it to work, so they left and I just held him and cried and told 
him how much I loved him.  Thanked him for letting me share in his life and 
told him I was giving him the only gift I could at this point.  The room we 
were in had a beautiful painting of the bridge, so I showed it to him and told 
him that was where he was going.  

  They had put a sheep skin-like pad on the table and when they came back I 
laid him on that and put his head on his favorite pillow (he loved to knead on 
this "sqush" pillow I have).  She thought they might have to put a catheter in 
his front leg to get the needle in since his veins were so small, but she was 
able to do it in his back leg.  Once it was in, I just held him and cried and 
cried some more.  But I know he was in peace.

  He visited me this morning - as I was waking up I could hear the birds 
outside my window and I distinctly heard a meow (I remember thinking that I 
didn't know of a bird that meowed).  When it happened I got chills.  And when I 
woke up fully I realized that he was letting me know that he's happy and he 
loves me.  

  I'm actually doing much better than I expected to be.  After the vet 
appointment my friend took me out to dinner and then to ben and jerry's 
(self-medicating is always good!), which distracted me and that helped a lot.  
Of course when I got home I completely lost it, but I knew that would happen.  
I called "dad" and he was wondeful about telling me I did all the right things, 
that he loves me, and not to worry about paying all those bills back 'till some 
time in the future.  

  Today I relaxed in the morning and then went and got my hair cut (my stylist 
is "dad's" partner and the owner of the salon...so he has lots of experience 
with losing kitties) and did some shopping.  I got a stuffed kitty that looks 
just like Slinky, so he'll be my new sleeping buddy.  I thought I would lose it 
when I came home tonight, but I just choked up for a bit and really was okay.  
I know all the prayers and thoughts everyone is sending me are helping a ton!!! 
 I think half the population of the US is praying for me and checking on me!

  You guys 

Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread Marylyn
Hammy is extremely happy right now and sends you his love for all you have 
done.  Blessings and strength to Lucinda and your boyfriend.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry DeHaan 
  To: Felvtalk 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:14 PM
  Subject: Hammy Please add to the CLS


  Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He 
is now with all the Angel fur kids.
  Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house 
possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this 
beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much
  Sherry


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Re: Slinky - Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread Lance

Marissa,

Thanks for letting us know about Slink. Even though I was expecting  
to read this, I prayed that the situation would turn around for him,  
somehow. Pretty normal to hope until the last, but you obviously did  
the right thing for him by helping him to leave. I'm glad you got a  
meow from him. Take care.


Lance


On Mar 28, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Marissa Johnson wrote:


Hi all.  I guess I need to complete the updates on Slinky, huh?

Yes, he went to the bridge last night.  I was having second  
thoughts all day yesterday...he, of course, perked up a bit, sat in  
the window sill again (hadn't done that in ages), and was still  
drinking, eating, and breathing fine.  I even started to wonder if  
his nose looked pinker.


But I decided to go to the vet appointment and ask her what she  
thought - and that all important question, "what would you do if he  
were your kitty?"


Right before we left I think I finally understood that it really  
was time.  It occurred to me that on Sunday he was very cuddly with  
me and initiating some cuddle time on his own.  But yesterday he  
didn't want anything to do with me.  And when we left the vet on  
Monday, someone said he'd tell me when it was time, and I remember  
thinking, "I think he already has told me" but I didn't want to  
believe it.  I think his spirit left on Sunday...I think all that  
cuddling was him saying goodbye and beginning to get ready for the  
journey.


So we went to the vet and I asked her if she thought his nose  
looked pinker.  She looked at his gums, etc. and assured me that  
they were not.  I was tempted to have her do another CBC, but that  
seemed like just adding to the torture he'd already been through.   
Without my even asking, the vet said, "If this were my cat, this is  
what I would be doing.  Not only is he not getting any better, but  
he's actually getting steadily worse...and he's just going to  
suffer if we wait much longer."  She of course pointed out that I  
had the option of waiting, but that seemed like it would just drag  
out the inevitable.  He was so weak the last couple days that he  
couldn't even get back on the bed once he'd gotten down.


The vet explained everything in detail and even shaved some of his  
fur for me since I'd forgotten I wanted a sample (good cuz what she  
got was way better than anything I could've gotten with a  
scissors).  Then she gave him the tranquilizer (I think she did it  
quickly so I wouldn't have time to change my mind...knowing that  
was best for me and for Slinky).  She said it would take a few  
minutes for it to work, so they left and I just held him and cried  
and told him how much I loved him.  Thanked him for letting me  
share in his life and told him I was giving him the only gift I  
could at this point.  The room we were in had a beautiful painting  
of the bridge, so I showed it to him and told him that was where he  
was going.


They had put a sheep skin-like pad on the table and when they came  
back I laid him on that and put his head on his favorite pillow (he  
loved to knead on this "sqush" pillow I have).  She thought they  
might have to put a catheter in his front leg to get the needle in  
since his veins were so small, but she was able to do it in his  
back leg.  Once it was in, I just held him and cried and cried some  
more.  But I know he was in peace.


He visited me this morning - as I was waking up I could hear the  
birds outside my window and I distinctly heard a meow (I remember  
thinking that I didn't know of a bird that meowed).  When it  
happened I got chills.  And when I woke up fully I realized that he  
was letting me know that he's happy and he loves me.


I'm actually doing much better than I expected to be.  After the  
vet appointment my friend took me out to dinner and then to ben and  
jerry's (self-medicating is always good!), which distracted me and  
that helped a lot.  Of course when I got home I completely lost it,  
but I knew that would happen.  I called "dad" and he was wondeful  
about telling me I did all the right things, that he loves me, and  
not to worry about paying all those bills back 'till some time in  
the future.


Today I relaxed in the morning and then went and got my hair cut  
(my stylist is "dad's" partner and the owner of the salon...so he  
has lots of experience with losing kitties) and did some shopping.   
I got a stuffed kitty that looks just like Slinky, so he'll be my  
new sleeping buddy.  I thought I would lose it when I came home  
tonight, but I just choked up for a bit and really was okay.  I  
know all the prayers and thoughts everyone is sending me are  
helping a ton!!!  I think half the population of the US is praying  
for me and checking on me!


You guys have been absolutely amazing and having people to talk to  
who've been there and understand how this is has been an  
unbelievable help!  Thank you all so much for all your support!!!


I know this is kinda long, but s

Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread Lance Linimon
I'm sorry that Hammy is gone. Thank you and everyone else involved  
for taking care of him. Lucinda will be in my prayers.


Lance


On Mar 28, 2007, at 9:14 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:

Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little  
Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids.
Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens  
house possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My  
boyfriend loves this beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much

Sherry

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Re: Fred Update

2007-03-28 Thread Belinda

  Hi Wendy,
  He is eating it's just a matter of eating enough and getting his meds 
into him, he isn't very cooperative with that.  He gets blood pressure 
meds and potassium supplements neither which comes in an injectable form 
that would be realistic.  I have to pill him 3 times a day, it's not the 
getting the pill in him, I can do that with some struggle but getting 
him to eat or drink after to make sure it goes down is the problem.  
Sometimes he'll drink a little milk or eat a bite after sometimes he 
won't, pills sitting in the esophagus can cause serious problems, we 
don't need anymore problems right now!!


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Re: Slinky - Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Marissa,
It just leaves such a big hole in your heart, I know.   They do let you
know.  It is so hard to let them go, but to let him pass the way he did was
a gift of kindess and caring.  I am so glad he came to let you know.  Love
and hugs - I am crying with you.

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi all.  I guess I need to complete the updates on Slinky, huh?

Yes, he went to the bridge last night.  I was having second thoughts all
day yesterday...he, of course, perked up a bit, sat in the window sill again
(hadn't done that in ages), and was still drinking, eating, and breathing
fine.  I even started to wonder if his nose looked pinker.

But I decided to go to the vet appointment and ask her what she thought -
and that all important question, "what would you do if he were your kitty?"


Right before we left I think I finally understood that it really was
time.  It occurred to me that on Sunday he was very cuddly with me and
initiating some cuddle time on his own.  But yesterday he didn't want
anything to do with me.  And when we left the vet on Monday, someone said
he'd tell me when it was time, and I remember thinking, "I think he already
has told me" but I didn't want to believe it.  I think his spirit left on
Sunday...I think all that cuddling was him saying goodbye and beginning to
get ready for the journey.

So we went to the vet and I asked her if she thought his nose looked
pinker.  She looked at his gums, etc. and assured me that they were not.  I
was tempted to have her do another CBC, but that seemed like just adding to
the torture he'd already been through.  Without my even asking, the vet
said, "If this were my cat, this is what I would be doing.  Not only is he
not getting any better, but he's actually getting steadily worse...and he's
just going to suffer if we wait much longer."  She of course pointed out
that I had the option of waiting, but that seemed like it would just drag
out the inevitable.  He was so weak the last couple days that he couldn't
even get back on the bed once he'd gotten down.

The vet explained everything in detail and even shaved some of his fur for
me since I'd forgotten I wanted a sample (good cuz what she got was way
better than anything I could've gotten with a scissors).  Then she gave him
the tranquilizer (I think she did it quickly so I wouldn't have time to
change my mind...knowing that was best for me and for Slinky).  She said it
would take a few minutes for it to work, so they left and I just held him
and cried and told him how much I loved him.  Thanked him for letting me
share in his life and told him I was giving him the only gift I could at
this point.  The room we were in had a beautiful painting of the bridge, so
I showed it to him and told him that was where he was going.

They had put a sheep skin-like pad on the table and when they came back I
laid him on that and put his head on his favorite pillow (he loved to knead
on this "sqush" pillow I have).  She thought they might have to put a
catheter in his front leg to get the needle in since his veins were so
small, but she was able to do it in his back leg.  Once it was in, I just
held him and cried and cried some more.  But I know he was in peace.

He visited me this morning - as I was waking up I could hear the birds
outside my window and I distinctly heard a meow (I remember thinking that I
didn't know of a bird that meowed).  When it happened I got chills.  And
when I woke up fully I realized that he was letting me know that he's happy
and he loves me.

I'm actually doing much better than I expected to be.  After the vet
appointment my friend took me out to dinner and then to ben and jerry's
(self-medicating is always good!), which distracted me and that helped a
lot.  Of course when I got home I completely lost it, but I knew that would
happen.  I called "dad" and he was wondeful about telling me I did all the
right things, that he loves me, and not to worry about paying all those
bills back 'till some time in the future.

Today I relaxed in the morning and then went and got my hair cut (my
stylist is "dad's" partner and the owner of the salon...so he has lots of
experience with losing kitties) and did some shopping.  I got a stuffed
kitty that looks just like Slinky, so he'll be my new sleeping buddy.  I
thought I would lose it when I came home tonight, but I just choked up for a
bit and really was okay.  I know all the prayers and thoughts everyone is
sending me are helping a ton!!!  I think half the population of the US is
praying for me and checking on me!

You guys have been absolutely amazing and having people to talk to who've
been there and understand how this is has been an unbelievable help!  Thank
you all so much for all your support!!!

I know this is kinda long, but since you've all been reading so much about
Slink, I thought you might want to know some of the details of his
crossing.  Thanks again for everything...I know I couldn't get through 

Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

I am so sorry, Sherry.  My heart and prayers are with you.

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little
Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids.
Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house
possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this
beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much
Sherry

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Slinky - Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread Marissa Johnson
Hi all.  I guess I need to complete the updates on Slinky, huh?  
   
  Yes, he went to the bridge last night.  I was having second thoughts all day 
yesterday...he, of course, perked up a bit, sat in the window sill again 
(hadn't done that in ages), and was still drinking, eating, and breathing fine. 
 I even started to wonder if his nose looked pinker.
   
  But I decided to go to the vet appointment and ask her what she thought - and 
that all important question, "what would you do if he were your kitty?"  
   
  Right before we left I think I finally understood that it really was time.  
It occurred to me that on Sunday he was very cuddly with me and initiating some 
cuddle time on his own.  But yesterday he didn't want anything to do with me.  
And when we left the vet on Monday, someone said he'd tell me when it was time, 
and I remember thinking, "I think he already has told me" but I didn't want to 
believe it.  I think his spirit left on Sunday...I think all that cuddling was 
him saying goodbye and beginning to get ready for the journey.
   
  So we went to the vet and I asked her if she thought his nose looked pinker.  
She looked at his gums, etc. and assured me that they were not.  I was tempted 
to have her do another CBC, but that seemed like just adding to the torture 
he'd already been through.  Without my even asking, the vet said, "If this were 
my cat, this is what I would be doing.  Not only is he not getting any better, 
but he's actually getting steadily worse...and he's just going to suffer if we 
wait much longer."  She of course pointed out that I had the option of waiting, 
but that seemed like it would just drag out the inevitable.  He was so weak the 
last couple days that he couldn't even get back on the bed once he'd gotten 
down.
   
  The vet explained everything in detail and even shaved some of his fur for me 
since I'd forgotten I wanted a sample (good cuz what she got was way better 
than anything I could've gotten with a scissors).  Then she gave him the 
tranquilizer (I think she did it quickly so I wouldn't have time to change my 
mind...knowing that was best for me and for Slinky).  She said it would take a 
few minutes for it to work, so they left and I just held him and cried and told 
him how much I loved him.  Thanked him for letting me share in his life and 
told him I was giving him the only gift I could at this point.  The room we 
were in had a beautiful painting of the bridge, so I showed it to him and told 
him that was where he was going.  
   
  They had put a sheep skin-like pad on the table and when they came back I 
laid him on that and put his head on his favorite pillow (he loved to knead on 
this "sqush" pillow I have).  She thought they might have to put a catheter in 
his front leg to get the needle in since his veins were so small, but she was 
able to do it in his back leg.  Once it was in, I just held him and cried and 
cried some more.  But I know he was in peace.
   
  He visited me this morning - as I was waking up I could hear the birds 
outside my window and I distinctly heard a meow (I remember thinking that I 
didn't know of a bird that meowed).  When it happened I got chills.  And when I 
woke up fully I realized that he was letting me know that he's happy and he 
loves me.  
   
  I'm actually doing much better than I expected to be.  After the vet 
appointment my friend took me out to dinner and then to ben and jerry's 
(self-medicating is always good!), which distracted me and that helped a lot.  
Of course when I got home I completely lost it, but I knew that would happen.  
I called "dad" and he was wondeful about telling me I did all the right things, 
that he loves me, and not to worry about paying all those bills back 'till some 
time in the future.  
   
  Today I relaxed in the morning and then went and got my hair cut (my stylist 
is "dad's" partner and the owner of the salon...so he has lots of experience 
with losing kitties) and did some shopping.  I got a stuffed kitty that looks 
just like Slinky, so he'll be my new sleeping buddy.  I thought I would lose it 
when I came home tonight, but I just choked up for a bit and really was okay.  
I know all the prayers and thoughts everyone is sending me are helping a ton!!! 
 I think half the population of the US is praying for me and checking on me!
   
  You guys have been absolutely amazing and having people to talk to who've 
been there and understand how this is has been an unbelievable help!  Thank you 
all so much for all your support!!!
   
  I know this is kinda long, but since you've all been reading so much about 
Slink, I thought you might want to know some of the details of his crossing.  
Thanks again for everything...I know I couldn't get through this without you!!
   
  Love to you and all your furkids!
   
  MJ

 
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Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Thank you Marissa,I'm sure Slinky will be a great friend to all the fur angels. 
:)
  Sherry

Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Oh Sherry!  I'm so sorry!!!  I'm sure Slinky will have fun with another new 
buddy to keep him company at the bridge.  It's so hard for us though.
   
  Definitely adding Lucinda to my prayers.  GLOW to you and your furkids!
   
  MJ

Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He 
is now with all the Angel fur kids.
  Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house 
possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this 
beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much
  Sherry

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Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS

2007-03-28 Thread Marissa Johnson
Oh Sherry!  I'm so sorry!!!  I'm sure Slinky will have fun with another new 
buddy to keep him company at the bridge.  It's so hard for us though.
   
  Definitely adding Lucinda to my prayers.  GLOW to you and your furkids!
   
  MJ

Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He 
is now with all the Angel fur kids.
  Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house 
possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this 
beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much
  Sherry

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Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread Marissa Johnson
Hang in there Hideyo.  Sending prayers, strength, and GLOW your way.  Know 
you're not alone...unfotunately I too can say how hard it is to lose one you 
love so much (though I cannot imagine how you have the strength to go through 
it so many times, and so close together).  My heart is with you.
   
  MJ

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place, and those are the kind of people the world needs more of.

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2007-03-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Thank you Kelly

Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  At 07:14 PM 3/28/2007, you wrote:


Sherry so many good thoughts and wished headed you way from al ofus here,
thanks for all you do
kelly


  Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He 
is now with all the Angel fur kids.
Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house 
possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this 
beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much
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2007-03-28 Thread Kelly L

At 07:14 PM 3/28/2007, you wrote:


Sherry so many good thoughts and wished headed you way from al ofus here,
thanks for all you do
kelly


Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little 
Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids.
Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens 
house possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend 
loves this beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much

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2007-03-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He is 
now with all the Angel fur kids.
  Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house 
possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this 
beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much
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hypothethical question....

2007-03-28 Thread JENI RECA

Hi,
I was discussing feluk and feluk exposed cats and someone asked me this 
question and what would I do, I still am thinking of the answer, and was 
curious what other people would answer;


question: feluk exposed cat 6 months, that was neg on ifa and elisa, but 
liter mate was postive on both tests, and then seperated, after being 
together for 6 months.  would you feel that it was ethical to place the cat 
up for adoption with no mention of the cat being feluk exposed  or do you 
feel it is your ethical duty to let the adopter know that it was exposed to 
feluk(also take into consideration that the cat might be up for adoption 
a long time, since a lot of people shy away from feluk)

and
also if placing with a rescue, telling or not and also if telling they 
wouldn't take the cat?


I was curious what other people would do...
Thanks
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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, Lance.  This has been so hard.  I thought we had more time.  She
will be greatly missed.

On 3/28/07, Lance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Elizabeth,

I read about the seizure, and MK has been in my prayers for some time
now, but reading that she was gone early today really shocked and
saddened me. I am deeply moved by your message. You'll be in my
thoughts and prayers. Thank you for sharing the pretty picture of her
with us.

Lance

On Mar 28, 2007, at 10:27 AM, elizabeth trent wrote:

> Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
> much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with
> tulips and apple blossoms.
>
> It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
> heart.  I love you.
>
> elizabeth





Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, Cassandra.

On 3/28/07, C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 I am so sorry to hear about Mama Kitty.  She is a beautiful girl, and I
know how much she will be missed.  It is a special thing that Mama Kitty
left you her baby, Tori, to look after for her.

Cassandra

- Original Message -
*From:* elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:27 AM
*Subject:* Good Bye Mama Kitty


 Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple
blossoms.

It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.
I love you.

elizabeth

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, Chris.

On 3/28/07, Chris Behnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Elizabeth, what a wonderful picture!  She looks like quite a character.
I am so sorry for you loss.

Chris

- Original Message -
*From:* elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:07 PM
*Subject:* Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty


 Nina,
Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture of
Mama Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you said
something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved everyone.


http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG

elizabeth

On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of Mama
> Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the screen),
> then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and I
> cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
> message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her for
>
> the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing us
> to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my heart
> the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that she
> will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
> just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
> gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch; sleeping
> with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she spent
> her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
> chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until
> the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
> you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
> ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your mind
> that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
> soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love for
> each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too
> now.
> Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
> Nina
>
> elizabeth trent wrote:
> > Leslie, thank you.
> >
> > By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> > bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she
> > was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> > white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> > brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll.  Her
>
> > back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> > why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> > kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain.  It
> > was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> > She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second
> > or two - she was very calm.
> >
> > There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it
> > cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of
> > life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> > have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first
> > crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
> >
> > I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> > loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together.
> >
> > This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
> >
> > Every day is a gift.
> > elizabeth
>
>
>



Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Lance

Elizabeth,

I read about the seizure, and MK has been in my prayers for some time  
now, but reading that she was gone early today really shocked and  
saddened me. I am deeply moved by your message. You'll be in my  
thoughts and prayers. Thank you for sharing the pretty picture of her  
with us.


Lance

On Mar 28, 2007, at 10:27 AM, elizabeth trent wrote:

Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so  
much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with  
tulips and apple blossoms.


It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my  
heart.  I love you.


elizabeth





Re: OT - times like these are when I wish I had a camera!

2007-03-28 Thread Kelley Saveika

Don't forget to sign up for the breeder/rescue program.  You will get 1 free
for every 5 you buy of the 16 lb, 20 lb and cases of canned food.  It helps
a lot.

On 3/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 I just got back from the store, cat food shopping (sigh). I decided on
Felidae Platinum dry and Felidae chicken & rice and chicken, turkey, lamb
&fish canned food (which supposedly are NOT made at ANY menu foods plant). I
also picked up a couple of cans of Merrick canned as well, to try (also on
the list as NOT made by menu foods). Anyways... I just filled the bowl in
the kitchen with the new dry food, and they were all sampling it, then
Doobie walks over to the bag (which I had propped up against the wall with
the front against the wall), and he is, no kidding here, looking dead
straight at the ingredient list on the back of the bag... READING THE LABEL!
I swear, if he's not reading the label, it's just too much of a coincidence!
His nose was almost touching the very center of the ingredient list, LOL!

Anyways, cuteness aside, they seem to like it OK, they aren't THRILLED,
but they are all eating it. Downside, it's got fairly big bone shaped
kibbles... and Tang has no teeth, so I'm not sure if he will be able to eat
it very well (swallowing it whole may be a challenge). I'll let you guys
know how the canned goes over later tonight at wet food dinner time. I
really liked the ingredients in the Solid Gold canned, but it's beyond our
reach financially. The Felidae wasn't bad really, the 16 pound bag was
only $23. The canned I got was all they had in stock... small 5.5 OZ cans,
at $0.89 a can, but they said they could order the big 13 OZ cans at $1.19
each. I can afford that. The ferals will probably remain on the healthwise
dry food, Natura says it's made at their own plant, unlike their canned
foods, so it should be fine. As bad as I hate supporting menu foods by
buying from someone that uses them... the healthwise is really economical
for as many wild animals as steals the feral's food.

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Sally Davis

Elizabeth,

I just got home from work to read this sad news. I believe you heard
purrs and it was Mama kitty. She was a special girl and is whole and
healthy again.

Hugs

Sally, Junior, Tiny(angel), Pumpkin(angel), Lionel(angel), Fluffy(angel) and
all the rest of the angels from my household.


On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple
blossoms.

It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.
I love you.

elizabeth



Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread C & J
I am so sorry to hear about Mama Kitty.  She is a beautiful girl, and I know 
how much she will be missed.  It is a special thing that Mama Kitty left you 
her baby, Tori, to look after for her.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: elizabeth trent 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:27 AM
  Subject: Good Bye Mama Kitty


  Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.  You 
are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms.  

  It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.  I 
love you.

  elizabeth


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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Chris Behnke
Elizabeth, what a wonderful picture!  She looks like quite a character.  I am 
so sorry for you loss.

Chris
  - Original Message - 
  From: elizabeth trent 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:07 PM
  Subject: Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty


  Nina,
  Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture of Mama 
Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you said something 
to her - she would say something right back.  She loved everyone.  

  http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG
   
  elizabeth
   
  On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of Mama
Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the screen), 
then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and I
cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her for 
the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing us
to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my heart
the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that she 
will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch; sleeping 
with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she spent
her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until 
the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your mind
that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love for
each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too now. 
Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
Nina

elizabeth trent wrote:
> Leslie, thank you.
>
> By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she 
> was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll.  Her 
> back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain.  It 
> was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second
> or two - she was very calm.
>
> There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it 
> cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of
> life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first 
> crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
>
> I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together. 
>
> This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
>
> Every day is a gift.
> elizabeth






Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you , Marylyn.

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 She loves you so much.  Feel that love embracing you.






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exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
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Francis

- Original Message -
*From:* elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:41 PM
*Subject:* Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty


Thank you, Barb.

On 3/28/07, Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Elizabeth, I'm so sorry...
>
> Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
>
> "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely
> living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."
> - Anonymous
>
> - Original Message 
> From: elizabeth trent < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:27:33 AM
> Subject: Good Bye Mama Kitty
>
>  Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
> much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and
> apple blossoms.
>
> It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
> heart.  I love you.
>
> elizabeth
>
>
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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, Beth

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Elizabeth,

She was an absolutely beautiful girl. It is so encouraging to know she got
through one crash. It gives others hope.
I'm glad she got to be with you last night and to spend it with someone
who loved her.

Beth

*elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

Nina,
Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture of
Mama Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you said
something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved everyone.


http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG

elizabeth

On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of Mama
> Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the screen),
> then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and I
> cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
> message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her for
>
> the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing us
> to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my heart
> the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that she
> will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
> just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
> gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch; sleeping
> with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she spent
> her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
> chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until
> the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
> you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
> ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your mind
> that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
> soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love for
> each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too
> now.
> Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
> Nina
>
> elizabeth trent wrote:
> > Leslie, thank you.
> >
> > By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> > bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she
> > was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> > white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> > brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll.  Her
>
> > back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> > why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> > kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain.  It
> > was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> > She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second
> > or two - she was very calm.
> >
> > There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it
> > cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of
> > life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> > have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first
> > crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
> >
> > I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> > loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together.
> >
> > This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
> >
> > Every day is a gift.
> > elizabeth
>
>
>

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Marylyn
She loves you so much.  Feel that love embracing you.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: elizabeth trent 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty


  Thank you, Barb.


  On 3/28/07, Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Elizabeth, I'm so sorry...
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
- Anonymous 



- Original Message 
From: elizabeth trent < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:27:33 AM 
Subject: Good Bye Mama Kitty


Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.  
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple 
blossoms.  

It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.  I 
love you.

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Gussies mom
Elizabeth,
   
  She was an absolutely beautiful girl. It is so encouraging to know she got 
through one crash. It gives others hope.
  I'm glad she got to be with you last night and to spend it with someone who 
loved her.
   
  Beth

elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nina,
  Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture of Mama 
Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you said something 
to her - she would say something right back.  She loved everyone.  
   
  http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG
 
  elizabeth
 
  On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Oh Elizabeth, words can not 
express my condolences for the loss of Mama
Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the screen), 
then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and I
cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her for 
the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing us
to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my heart
the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that she 
will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch; sleeping 
with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she spent
her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until 
the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your mind
that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love for
each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too now. 
Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
Nina

elizabeth trent wrote:
> Leslie, thank you.
>
> By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she 
> was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll.  Her 
> back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain.  It 
> was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second
> or two - she was very calm.
>
> There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it 
> cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of
> life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first 
> crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
>
> I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together. 
>
> This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
>
> Every day is a gift.
> elizabeth






 
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Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread Gussies mom
Wether you agree with things she says or not, her heart is in the right place, 
and those are the kind of people the world needs more of.

  Beth
   
  
Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to our 
dear friend Hideyo. She has had so many losses, so much pain and 

 
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Re: Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you so much, Michelle.

On 3/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 So sorry to hear mama kitty has passed - my heart goes out to you and no
it's not crazy to hear her purrs - you always do what is best for them and
feel the bond with them and she is still with you. I haven't heard my angel
kitties purr but I sure did see Bramble move past me from the corner of my
eye a few months after he died. Maybe it's their way of letting us know they
found the bridge ok and are running around playing whilst they wait for us
xxx

Michelle, Buddy, Minsterl & Angel Bramble



Re: Stamp

2007-03-28 Thread Gussies mom
Thank you for asking. unfortunately I did not get home at lunch today (I saw a 
dog loose in the bank parking lot and spent my lunch hour unsuccessfully 
chasing him), so I haven't seen him since the am and am getting anxious to get 
home.
   
  He just kind of flops down next to me and lays stretched out and breathes 
heavily.He looks at me and cries.  I wake up in the middle of the night to 
check to see if he is still there. He runs out in the main part of the house, 
which I don't like because then he eats the clumping litter.
   
  I'm supposed to go to the shelter tomorrow night to clean, but I told them I 
needed to be with him instead.

wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Beth,

How is Stamp doing today? I'm trying to catch up on
emails and just read about his recent decline. 

:)
Wendy

--- Gussies mom wrote:

> I have been reading, but not participating in the
> posts the last week or so. 
> I am so sorry to hear about Slinky and Belinda's
> Fred. 
> I have an FeLV foster kitty named Stamp, who had
> started to get sick. He went to the vet and they
> said to bring him back in a week or so.His belly has
> been getting big, and I can feel the bones in his
> back although he eats fine. They could not get fluid
> from his belly last week. He now mostly lays totally
> stretched out, because I think his belly bothers
> him.
> 
> Well I took him in today, and his HCT, which was
> 28 a week and a half ago is now 20. His temp was
> 104, last week 103.5. He just finish 10 days of
> Zenequin. The vet put him on Doxy and 5mg Pred every
> day.
> They said his protein level was high and they fear
> it is FIP. He is supposed to go back to the vet
> Friday, but I fear he will not last that long. 
> 
> It seems there has been so much loss here lately.
> I have not lost a kitty in about 2 years.
> I am a huge Nanci Griffith fan, and she has a song
> that says " I cannot find a place to put this love
> away". That's the way I feel right now.
> 
> I talked to the shelter director today and we
> agreed that it was a miracle for her to find him,
> and for me to love him. He was only destined to have
> a short time, and he got to spend it in happily.
> 
> I desperately need to go home and do yard work,
> but I am going to go to the store, get him some
> roast beef, and cuddle with Stamp. If the neighbors
> don't like my weeds, the hell with them.
> 
> Beth
> 
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RE: Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Unfortunately, my sadness never seem to go away, I am still sad when I
think of the ones I have lost many years ago,, but the difference is
that I am able to live with it a bit stronger every day..

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara
stickler
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength

 

"Hideyo is such an unsung hero" - I agree with that fully!

 

Hold one girl, the sadness does pass...eventually.  To quote my
great-granddam, "The only way to get through it, is to get through it.
Bow your head, shoulder-through, and force yourself to keep moving,
ahead, eventually, you'll step into a cloud break." (she was the first
female Maryland State Trooper and raised 6 children single-handedly
after her husband died in a mill accidenttrust her.)

 

God Bless!

T

 

Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be
sent to our 
dear friend Hideyo. She has had so many losses, so much pain and

sadness, so much strife, she could so use our strength right
now. It 
has been difficult for her to find time to participate in the
list 
lately. She has stoically been dealing with loss after loss, and
still, 
when I asked for her help in interpreting Joey's test results
she wrote 
back immediately. I have never met a more giving unselfish heart
as 
Hideyo. You may not agree with where her decisions take her, but
they 
are always made from a place of love and giving. I wish there
was more 
that I could do to relieve her burdens. Sometimes knowing that
you are 
not alone, knowing that others care and are sending good
thoughts and 
blessings your way can help rally our fortitude and get us
through the 
worst of times. Hideyo is such an unsung hero and I'm proud to
call her 
friend.
Hang in there Hideyo, you are loved,
Nina



 

  

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Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread tamara stickler
"Hideyo is such an unsung hero" - I agree with that fully!
   
  Hold one girl, the sadness does pass...eventually.  To quote my 
great-granddam, "The only way to get through it, is to get through it.  Bow 
your head, shoulder-through, and force yourself to keep moving, ahead, 
eventually, you'll step into a cloud break." (she was the first female Maryland 
State Trooper and raised 6 children single-handedly after her husband died in a 
mill accidenttrust her.)
   
  God Bless!
  T
   
  Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to our 
dear friend Hideyo. She has had so many losses, so much pain and 
sadness, so much strife, she could so use our strength right now. It 
has been difficult for her to find time to participate in the list 
lately. She has stoically been dealing with loss after loss, and still, 
when I asked for her help in interpreting Joey's test results she wrote 
back immediately. I have never met a more giving unselfish heart as 
Hideyo. You may not agree with where her decisions take her, but they 
are always made from a place of love and giving. I wish there was more 
that I could do to relieve her burdens. Sometimes knowing that you are 
not alone, knowing that others care and are sending good thoughts and 
blessings your way can help rally our fortitude and get us through the 
worst of times. Hideyo is such an unsung hero and I'm proud to call her 
friend.
Hang in there Hideyo, you are loved,
Nina




 
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Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Lomaxturtle
So sorry to hear mama kitty has passed - my heart goes out to you and no  
it's not crazy to hear her purrs - you always do what is best for them and feel 
 
the bond with them and she is still with you. I haven't heard my angel kitties 
 purr but I sure did see Bramble move past me from the corner of my eye a few 
 months after he died. Maybe it's their way of letting us know they found the 
 bridge ok and are running around playing whilst they wait for us xxx 
 
Michelle, Buddy, Minsterl & Angel Bramble



   


Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread TenHouseCats

what a GREAT photo, and what a beautiful girl she is.

(but then, anyone who brought twelve kittens into the world would have to
have quite the mouth on her, wouldn't she, to keep some order)



On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Nina,
Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture of
Mama Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you said
something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved everyone.


http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG

elizabeth

On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of Mama
> Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the screen),
> then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and I
> cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
> message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her for
>
> the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing us
> to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my heart
> the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that she
> will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
> just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
> gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch; sleeping
> with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she spent
> her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
> chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until
> the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
> you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
> ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your mind
> that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
> soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love for
> each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too
> now.
> Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
> Nina
>
> elizabeth trent wrote:
> > Leslie, thank you.
> >
> > By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> > bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she
> > was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> > white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> > brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll.  Her
>
> > back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> > why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> > kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain.  It
> > was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> > She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second
> > or two - she was very calm.
> >
> > There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it
> > cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of
> > life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> > have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first
> > crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
> >
> > I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> > loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together.
> >
> > This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
> >
> > Every day is a gift.
> > elizabeth
>
>
>




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Re: Fred Update

2007-03-28 Thread wendy
Hey Belinda,

I'm glad to hear that the old Fred is back so quickly.
 Wow!  I guess he's trying to say something maybe.  Do
you think that Fred might possibly start eating now on
his own?  

:)
Wendy

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Re: Stamp

2007-03-28 Thread wendy
Beth,

How is Stamp doing today?  I'm trying to catch up on
emails and just read about his recent decline.  

:)
Wendy

--- Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have been reading, but not participating in the
> posts the last week or so. 
>   I am so sorry to hear about Slinky and Belinda's
> Fred. 
>   I have an FeLV  foster kitty named Stamp, who had
> started to get sick. He went to the vet and they
> said to bring him back in a week or so.His belly has
> been getting big, and I can feel the bones in his
> back although he eats fine. They could not get fluid
> from his belly last week. He now mostly lays totally
> stretched out, because I think his belly bothers
> him.
>
>   Well I took him in today, and his HCT, which was
> 28 a week and a half ago is now 20. His temp was
> 104, last week 103.5. He just finish 10 days of
> Zenequin. The vet put him on Doxy and 5mg Pred every
> day.
>   They said his protein level was high and they fear
> it is FIP. He is supposed to go back to the vet
> Friday, but I fear he will not last that long. 
>
>   It seems there has been so much loss here lately.
> I have not lost a kitty in about 2 years.
>   I am a huge Nanci Griffith fan, and she has a song
> that says " I cannot find a place to put this love
> away". That's the way I feel right now.
>
>   I talked to the shelter director today and we
> agreed that it was a miracle for her to find him,
> and for me to love him. He was only destined to have
> a short time, and he got to spend it in happily.
>
>   I desperately need to go home and do yard work,
> but I am going to go to the store, get him some
> roast beef, and cuddle with Stamp. If the neighbors
> don't like my weeds, the hell with them.
>
>   Beth
> 
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RE: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Elizabeth, I am so very sorry of your loss of your special baby - she is
so beautiful -I have recently lost two of my babies and might be losing
another one, it's so painful to hear about your loss as I can feel your
pain so close to my heart.  Please know that your mama kitty is free
from all the pains now and her soul is right besides your heart.

 

Hideyo

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth
trent
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

 

Nina,

Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture of
Mama Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you said
something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved
everyone.  

 

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elizabeth
 

On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of Mama
Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the screen), 
then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and I
cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her for

the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing us
to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my heart
the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that she 
will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch; sleeping 
with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she spent
her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until 
the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your mind
that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love for
each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too
now. 
Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
Nina

elizabeth trent wrote:
> Leslie, thank you.
>
> By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she 
> was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll.  Her

> back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain.  It 
> was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second
> or two - she was very calm.
>
> There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it 
> cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of
> life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first 
> crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
>
> I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together. 
>
> This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
>
> Every day is a gift.
> elizabeth



 



RE: someone who is GOOD at marketing, etc

2007-03-28 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
I am thinking of trying Honest Kitchen Prowl for my cats as soon as I can 
afford it -- I have a huge crew to feed.
 
Anita



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: 
> someone who is GOOD at marketing, etc> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:10:15 -0500> 
> > You may have seen information from Honest Kitchen.> > > > > If you have men 
> who will > exclude any of God's creatures> from the shelter of > compassion 
> and pity, you will have men who> will deal likewise with > their fellow man.> 
> St. > Francis> - Original Message - > From: "wendy" <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>> To: > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 
> 9:00 AM> Subject: Re: someone who is GOOD at marketing, etc> > > >i did see 
> some flyers at the pet food store friday> > where you can order home cooked 
> 'people' food for your> > dogs. i didn't get the company name because i was 
> too> > busy laughing (not to mention, i saw the flyer on the> > floor while 
> using the restrooom). the company is> > serious though. they have very nice 
> color flyers.> > the food looks just like what the black eyed pea cooks> > up 
> for it's customers. not sure it's healthy though.> > vets tell people not to 
> feed their dogs people food.> >> > :)> > wendy> >> > --- TenHouseCats <[EMAIL 
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Re: Fred Update

2007-03-28 Thread Nina

Belinda,
I'm so sorry for your upset at this newest development with Fred.  
Please do your best to stop kicking yourself, (go ahead and kick 
others), for the "whys" of Fred's infection.  I know how difficult it 
must be with all your worries about the future, but do your best to 
enjoy how happy Fred is at this moment.  It's so telling that he has 
gone back to his old ways when he was able to remove the tube.  I know 
how important it is to you to make use of every medical advantage in 
helping Fred extend his life, but try to let go of that, at least for a 
moment, and fully enjoy his small pleasures with him.   Give that boy of 
yours a head butt from his Auntie Nina.  Who knows, if you approach the 
argument in just the right way, (please do it for mother!), if you 
figure out ways to get his meds into him in less stressful ways, 
(transdermals and/or injections perhaps?), you may be able to continue 
to treat him and give him a better quality of life at the same time.

My prayers are with you,
Nina

Belinda wrote:

Hi All,
 I was going to have them put another tube in but I think they 
would have to wait 2 or 3 weeks because his infection isn't gone yet 
and they said we would have to wait for that to completely heal.  But 
I have already decided to wait on the tube because it is so obvious 
that Fred is a different cat without it.  He slept on my pillow for 
the first time in 6 weeks, coincidentally about as long as he had his 
tube.  Even Mike, my hubby noticed the difference, Fred was scratching 
on the bathroom door wanting in while hubby was in there this morning, 
something he did every morning before he got the tube but not once after.


My greatest concern is getting his meds into him and getting him to 
eat enough.  Gave him his blood pressure meds this morning and it 
wasn't pretty, I can get the pills into him, it's getting him to drink 
or eat something after to make sure they go down and don't sit in his 
throat.  I've made a deal with him that if he learns to cooperate with 
meds and eats better in the next 2 or 3 weeks we will put off the 
feeding tube indefinitely, so we'll see what happens.


I'm going to ask my vet about injections for his potassium supplement 
and find out if his norvasc can be compounded or if it comes in an 
injectable, I think I already called the companies that sell it and I 
don't think it can be made into an injectable but I really don't 
remember.  It's been a very trying 6 weeks, Fred's had an infection 
for pretty much most of that time.


I'm worried about what the future holds but I'm really going to try 
and just take it one day at a time.







Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread Barb Moermond
Hideyo,
you and your crew are always in my thoughts and prayers - a steady stream of 
GLOW flows your way to help you make the painful decisions that are sometimes 
necessary and to give you strength and peace.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:31:21 PM
Subject: Hideyo - Please send her strength


I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to our 
dear friend Hideyo.  She has had so many losses, so much pain and 
sadness, so much strife, she could so use our strength right now.  It 
has been difficult for her to find time to participate in the list 
lately.  She has stoically been dealing with loss after loss, and still, 
when I asked for her help in interpreting Joey's test results she wrote 
back immediately.  I have never met a more giving unselfish heart as 
Hideyo.  You may not agree with where her decisions take her, but they 
are always made from a place of love and giving.  I wish there was more 
that I could do to relieve her burdens.  Sometimes knowing that you are 
not alone, knowing that others care and are sending good thoughts and 
blessings your way can help rally our fortitude and get us through the 
worst of times.  Hideyo is such an unsung hero and I'm proud to call her 
friend.
Hang in there Hideyo, you are loved,
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Re: Fred Update

2007-03-28 Thread Belinda

 Nina,
For now that is exactly what I am going to do, he is eating pretty 
good so far and absolutely happier, I can't be in denial about that, so 
1 day at a time ...


It's so telling that he has gone back to his old ways when he was able 
to remove the tube.  I know how important it is to you to make use of 
every medical advantage in helping Fred extend his life, but try to 
let go of that, at least for a moment, and fully enjoy his small 
pleasures with him.


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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, Jennifer.

On 3/28/07, Jennifer Madon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What a pretty baby!  I too am sorry for your loss.  I am glad you got to
have her with you last night.  I know she loved it too!
Jennifer Madon

elizabeth trent wrote:

Nina,
Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture of
Mama Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you said
something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved everyone.


http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG

elizabeth

On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of Mama
> Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the screen),
> then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and I
> cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
> message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her for
>
> the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing us
> to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my heart
> the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that she
> will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
> just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
> gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch; sleeping
> with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she spent
> her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
> chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until
> the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
> you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
> ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your mind
> that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
> soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love for
> each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too
> now.
> Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
> Nina
>
> elizabeth trent wrote:
> > Leslie, thank you.
> >
> > By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> > bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she
> > was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> > white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> > brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll.  Her
>
> > back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> > why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> > kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain.  It
> > was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> > She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second
> > or two - she was very calm.
> >
> > There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it
> > cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of
> > life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> > have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first
> > crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
> >
> > I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> > loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together.
> >
> > This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
> >
> > Every day is a gift.
> > elizabeth
>
>
>



RE: Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Nina -- you re making me cry --thank you for being my friend and
listening to me when I am angry, when I am sad, when I am exhausted, and
when I am happy.. you always have been there for me and I feel so
fortunate that you are my friend...

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Hideyo - Please send her strength

I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to our

dear friend Hideyo.  She has had so many losses, so much pain and 
sadness, so much strife, she could so use our strength right now.  It 
has been difficult for her to find time to participate in the list 
lately.  She has stoically been dealing with loss after loss, and still,

when I asked for her help in interpreting Joey's test results she wrote 
back immediately.  I have never met a more giving unselfish heart as 
Hideyo.  You may not agree with where her decisions take her, but they 
are always made from a place of love and giving.  I wish there was more 
that I could do to relieve her burdens.  Sometimes knowing that you are 
not alone, knowing that others care and are sending good thoughts and 
blessings your way can help rally our fortitude and get us through the 
worst of times.  Hideyo is such an unsung hero and I'm proud to call her

friend.
Hang in there Hideyo, you are loved,
Nina







Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Jennifer Madon
What a pretty baby!  I too am sorry for your loss.  I am glad you got to 
have her with you last night.  I know she loved it too!

Jennifer Madon

elizabeth trent wrote:

Nina,
Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture 
of Mama Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you 
said something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved 
everyone. 
 
http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG
 
elizabeth
 
On 3/28/07, *Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of
Mama
Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the
screen),
then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened
and I
cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from
her for
the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your
allowing us
to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my
heart
the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know
that she
will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch;
sleeping
with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she
spent
her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until
the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your
mind
that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your
love for
each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me
too now.
Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
Nina

elizabeth trent wrote:
> Leslie, thank you.
>
> By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she
> was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag
doll.  Her
> back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in
pain.  It
> was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a
second
> or two - she was very calm.
>
> There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how
much it
> cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her
quality of
> life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first
> crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
>
> I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together.
>
> This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
>
> Every day is a gift.
> elizabeth





Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread wendy
Prayers going out for strength for Hideyo and her
furkids.

:)
Wendy

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Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Heartfelt love, prayers, and healing light to you, Hideyo.

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to our
dear friend Hideyo.  She has had so many losses, so much pain and
sadness, so much strife, she could so use our strength right now.  It
has been difficult for her to find time to participate in the list
lately.  She has stoically been dealing with loss after loss, and still,
when I asked for her help in interpreting Joey's test results she wrote
back immediately.  I have never met a more giving unselfish heart as
Hideyo.  You may not agree with where her decisions take her, but they
are always made from a place of love and giving.  I wish there was more
that I could do to relieve her burdens.  Sometimes knowing that you are
not alone, knowing that others care and are sending good thoughts and
blessings your way can help rally our fortitude and get us through the
worst of times.  Hideyo is such an unsung hero and I'm proud to call her
friend.
Hang in there Hideyo, you are loved,
Nina





Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, Barb.

On 3/28/07, Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Elizabeth, I'm so sorry...

Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."
- Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:27:33 AM
Subject: Good Bye Mama Kitty

 Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple
blossoms.

It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.
I love you.

elizabeth



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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Barb Moermond
Elizabeth, I'm so sorry...
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:27:33 AM
Subject: Good Bye Mama Kitty


Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.  You 
are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms.  
 
It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.  I 
love you.
 
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Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread Kelly L

At 11:31 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:



Thank you Nina for the kind letter. I know Hideyo and I have had a 
few differences, but I know that she deeply loves all of her babies 
and I am truly sending good thoughts her way.

Kelly



I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to 
our dear friend Hideyo.  She has had so many losses, so much pain 
and sadness, so much strife, she could so use our strength right 
now.  It has been difficult for her to find time to participate in 
the list lately.  She has stoically been dealing with loss after 
loss, and still, when I asked for her help in interpreting Joey's 
test results she wrote back immediately.  I have never met a more 
giving unselfish heart as Hideyo.  You may not agree with where her 
decisions take her, but they are always made from a place of love 
and giving.  I wish there was more that I could do to relieve her 
burdens.  Sometimes knowing that you are not alone, knowing that 
others care and are sending good thoughts and blessings your way can 
help rally our fortitude and get us through the worst of 
times.  Hideyo is such an unsung hero and I'm proud to call her friend.

Hang in there Hideyo, you are loved,
Nina




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To Debbie: Re: pics to share

2007-03-28 Thread wendy
Debbie,

I loved the pic of everyone at the sink!  That was too
cute!  Your babies are precious.

:)
Wendy


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> bury recently. I miss
> her.
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Hideyo - Please send her strength

2007-03-28 Thread Nina
I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to our 
dear friend Hideyo.  She has had so many losses, so much pain and 
sadness, so much strife, she could so use our strength right now.  It 
has been difficult for her to find time to participate in the list 
lately.  She has stoically been dealing with loss after loss, and still, 
when I asked for her help in interpreting Joey's test results she wrote 
back immediately.  I have never met a more giving unselfish heart as 
Hideyo.  You may not agree with where her decisions take her, but they 
are always made from a place of love and giving.  I wish there was more 
that I could do to relieve her burdens.  Sometimes knowing that you are 
not alone, knowing that others care and are sending good thoughts and 
blessings your way can help rally our fortitude and get us through the 
worst of times.  Hideyo is such an unsung hero and I'm proud to call her 
friend.

Hang in there Hideyo, you are loved,
Nina




Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Yes, Mama Kitty was quite pregnant when she chose this as her home.  The
little runt from that litter is Tori. Tori lives here with me and looks so
much like her mother.  Tori doesn't have feline leukemia.  I helped to birth
her and get her breathing - Mama Kitty was so exhausted at that point - I
would cut the cords and bring the last few babies up to her to clean them.
She was a wonderful Mommy.  Tori almost didn't make it but she was
determined.  "Tori" for short because she was 'Victorious" in her struggle
to live.  I helped to bottle feed her too - poor Mama just wasn't born with
enough feeding stations for everyone.  I see Mama Kitty everytime I look at
Tori.  Tori is a big, healthy girl now.

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


what a GREAT photo, and what a beautiful girl she is.

(but then, anyone who brought twelve kittens into the world would have to
have quite the mouth on her, wouldn't she, to keep some order)



On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nina,
> Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture of
> Mama Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you said
> something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved everyone.
>
>
> http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG
>
> elizabeth
>
>  On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of
> > Mama
> > Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the
> > screen),
> > then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and
> > I
> > cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
> > message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her
> > for
> > the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing
> > us
> > to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my
> > heart
> > the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that
> > she
> > will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
> > just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
> > gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch;
> > sleeping
> > with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she
> > spent
> > her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
> > chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until
> > the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
> > you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
> > ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your
> > mind
> > that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
> > soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love
> > for
> > each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too
> > now.
> > Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
> > Nina
> >
> > elizabeth trent wrote:
> > > Leslie, thank you.
> > >
> > > By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> > > bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she
> > > was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> > > white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> > > brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag
> > doll.  Her
> > > back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> > > why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> > > kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in
> > pain.  It
> > > was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> > > She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a
> > second
> > > or two - she was very calm.
> > >
> > > There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much
> > it
> > > cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality
> > of
> > > life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> > > have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first
> > > crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
> > >
> > > I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> > > loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together.
> > >
> > > This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
> > >
> > > Every day is a gift.
> > > elizabeth
> >
> >
> >
>


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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Hideyo,  you've been through so much and had so much grief.  My heart is
with you too.  Thank you.

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Elizabeth, I am so very sorry of your loss of your special baby – she is
so beautiful –I have recently lost two of my babies and might be losing
another one, it's so painful to hear about your loss as I can feel your pain
so close to my heart.  Please know that your mama kitty is free from all the
pains now and her soul is right besides your heart.



Hideyo


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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *elizabeth trent
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:08 PM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty



Nina,

Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture of
Mama Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you said
something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved everyone.




http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG


elizabeth


On 3/28/07, *Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of Mama
Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the screen),
then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and I
cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her for
the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing us
to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my heart
the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that she
will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch; sleeping
with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she spent
her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until
the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your mind
that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love for
each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too now.
Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
Nina

elizabeth trent wrote:
> Leslie, thank you.
>
> By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she
> was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll.  Her
> back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain.  It
> was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second
> or two - she was very calm.
>
> There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it
> cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of
> life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first
> crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
>
> I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together.
>
> This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
>
> Every day is a gift.
> elizabeth





Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Isn't she dear?  I'm she made you laugh -- she was one of God's little
angels.  When I buried her, I thanked God for sharing her with me and for
how precious that time was.



On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


OH MY GOODNESS!  Who would have believed that she could wrench a laugh
out of me right now!?  What a darling girl.  I can just hear her talking
to you in that picture.  Thank you for sending it.  Such a little dear.
Nina


elizabeth trent wrote:
> Nina,
> Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture
> of Mama Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you
> said something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved
> everyone.
>
> http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG





Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Nina
OH MY GOODNESS!  Who would have believed that she could wrench a laugh 
out of me right now!?  What a darling girl.  I can just hear her talking 
to you in that picture.  Thank you for sending it.  Such a little dear.

Nina


elizabeth trent wrote:

Nina,
Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture 
of Mama Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you 
said something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved 
everyone. 
 
http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG





Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Nina,
Thank you for those kind words with all my heart.  Here is a picture of Mama
Kitty - happy on her porch.  She was a very vocal girl. If you said
something to her - she would say something right back.  She loved everyone.

http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/MVC-082F.JPG

elizabeth

On 3/28/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of Mama
Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the screen),
then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and I
cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her
message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her for
the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing us
to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my heart
the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that she
will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not
just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It
gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch; sleeping
with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she spent
her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she
chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until
the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare
you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was
ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your mind
that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little
soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love for
each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too now.
Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
Nina

elizabeth trent wrote:
> Leslie, thank you.
>
> By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really
> bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she
> was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just
> white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her
> brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll.  Her
> back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure
> why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be
> kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain.  It
> was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.
> She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second
> or two - she was very calm.
>
> There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it
> cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of
> life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would
> have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first
> crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
>
> I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was
> loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together.
>
> This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
>
> Every day is a gift.
> elizabeth





To Kelley: Re: Feline leukemia info from Best Friends

2007-03-28 Thread wendy
Kelley,

Thanks for this info.  I have never seen it.

:)
Wendy

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Nina
Oh Elizabeth, words can not express my condolences for the loss of Mama 
Kitty.  My first reaction was anger, (I actually cursed at the screen), 
then reading about how ready she was to go, the flood gates opened and I 
cried right along side you.  Thank you for letting us know about her 
message to you, with those purrs I felt a wave of gratitude from her for 
the love you shared.  I feel blessed in knowing you and your allowing us 
to be a small part of your lives together.  I believe with all my heart 
the purrs you heard were Mama comforting you, letting you know that she 
will always be with you and that you did exactly the right thing, (not 
just at the end of her life, but all along your journey together).  It 
gives me comfort to think of her sunning herself on the porch; sleeping 
with you; of how you were in tune enough with her to make sure she spent 
her days the way she wanted to as best you could.  I think the way she 
chose to transition was a gift to you.  She had quality time up until 
the end, (even giving you warning as much as a year before to prepare 
you and alert you to live in the moment with her), and when she was 
ready, she expressed it in a way that could leave no doubt in your mind 
that it was the right decision to help her pass.  What a loving little 
soul she is.  I just want you to know that Mama kitty and your love for 
each other has touched my heart.  Your sweet Angel lives with me too now.

Watch for her Elizabeth, she will be back,
Nina

elizabeth trent wrote:

Leslie, thank you.
 
By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really 
bad seizures every few minutes.   She really did not know where she 
was.  She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just 
white.  The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her 
brain.  She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll.  Her 
back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure 
why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to go.  She didn't want to be 
kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain.  It 
was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her.  
She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second 
or two - she was very calm.
 
There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it 
cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of 
life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would 
have been selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first 
crash with an excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.
 
I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was 
loved.  I am so grateful for the time we had together.
 
This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.
 
Every day is a gift.

elizabeth





To Marissa

2007-03-28 Thread wendy
Hi Marissa,

I knew you were taking Slinky for pts yesterday
evening, but hadn't heard anything since, so I guess I
was secretly hoping he had rallied at the last minute
and was still here.  After reading your post to
Elizabeth, I know that is not the case, and I wanted
to tell you how sorry I am that Slinky had to leave
you.  I hope you are doing ok.  Please let us know if
you need anything or just to talk/vent.  We're here
for you.  

:)
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:57:34 -0500
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Thank you, MC.  Your kind words mean so much.

On 3/28/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> oh, my dear friend, i am so sorry.
>
> surrounded by roses, and covered in flowers--tangible fragments of the
> sparkling love she was surrounded by during her time on this part of
her
> journey.
>
> GLOW to guide her way to the bridge, and to heal your heart.
>
> mama kitty had become part of my family, too, and we celebrate the
life
> she shared with us.
>
> MC
>
> On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
> > much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with
tulips and
> > apple blossoms.
> >
> > It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
> > heart.  I love you.
> >
> > elizabeth
> >
>
>
>
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Thank you, Sherry.

On 3/28/07, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So sorry Elizabeth about your sweet Mama Kitty.Hugs to you
> Sherry
>
> *elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
much.
> You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and
apple
> blossoms.
>
> It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
heart.
> I love you.
>
> elizabeth
>
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Leslie, thank you.

By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really bad
seizures
every few minutes.   She really did not know where she was.  She had
lost
over a pound this week and her gums were just white.  The vet felt that
she
was not getting enough oxygen to her brain.  She couldn't stand - she
was
just like a little rag doll.  Her back was very sensitive - she was
obviously in pain - I am not sure why.  I talked to her.  She was ready
to
go.  She didn't want to be kept alive by extreme measures only to waste
away
and be in pain.  It was a very hard decision but I believe it was the
right
one for her.  She was very close to death and she

Re: Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, Dede.

On 3/28/07, dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Elizabeth:

So very sorry for your loss.  I know how bad it hurts.
Each one of them is special.  May you feel conforted
knowing she is at peace. You both will always be
friends, and someday be together again.

Dede
--- elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard
> that you loved so much.
> You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave
> with tulips and apple
> blossoms.
>
> It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever
> be alive in my heart.  I
> love you.
>
> elizabeth
>


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RE: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
That's okay, I've always wanted to be a "Diana."  Thanks for your post
to Leslie telling us what happened.  Your decision was absolutely right.
I'm glad you had some quiet time with your girl.
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth
trent
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty


Diane - I am sorry I misspelled your name.  My dear sister-in-law is
named Diana - I'm just not thinking clearly right now.
 
elizabeth

 
On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Thank you, Diana.  I just replied to Leslie explaining what
happend.  She went downhill very fast.  I knew that at some point last
night she was having more than one seizure an hour and I knew that was
bad.  I had hoped so much that this was something that could be
controlled but it was not to be.  I really think now that last summer
when she had the seizure with the pet tinic that it was more related to
the disease. 

 
elizabeth

 

On 3/28/07, Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 

This was the last I heard too...Elizabeth, what
happened?  I'm so very sorry she had to leave you.  Gentlest of Bridge
vibes to Mama Kitty and hugs to you. 
 
Diane R.



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 ] On Behalf Of Leslie
Lawther
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

 

I think I missed something... wasn't she having
seizures?  Did you find out what caused them?  
 
I'm sooo sorry Elizabeth... When I read about the
seizures I felt so bad... I went through that with our Tikki (double
positive) last year.  We never did find out what was causing them.  
 
I'm sooo sorry for your loss.  
 
Leslie =^..^=


 
On 3/28/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

At 08:27 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:


OhElizabeth
I hurts so much I know, You are not alone and it
is good Mama Kitty 
is in no more pain, and you have taken that pain
for her. Time will
ease the pain and the happy memories will take
over, but that will
take a while,]
You are not alone in this, all of our thoughts
are with you now, 
Kelly L


>Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard
that you loved so
>much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered
your grave with
>tulips and apple blossoms.
>
>It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will
forever be alive in my 
>heart.  I love you.
>
>elizabeth
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RE: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
I am so very sorry for your loss of Mama Kitty. She sounds like a very special 
girl and will always remain so in your heart.
 
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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, Wendy.

On 3/28/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oh Elizabeth,

Bless your heart.  I am so, so sorry that Mama Kitty
has passed.  I can't believe it.  If you need
ANYTHING, just let me know.  I'm here for you.

You're in my thoughts and prayers,
:)
Wendy

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread TenHouseCats

love never dies, it just changes form.

most of us have heard those purrs from away, and those
was-it-my-imagination? meows. and seen our old friends race past, out of
the corner of our eye

since no one can prove to me these things DIDN'T, or CAN'T happen, i choose
to believe that they do and can.

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

That will mean a lot to her.

On 3/28/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


At 09:21 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:



And of course Little WHite DEAF kitty who has been there 8 days will feel
very important showing the new comers al the ropes,,,
Kelly


 Oh Elizabeth!  I'm so sorry!!  But I know Slinky will be happy to have
such a wonderful friend at the bridge...they can keep each other company and
share stories about their crazy mamas.  Slinky visited me this morning, I
will pray that Mama Kitty greets you as well.

I know how hard this is now.  Know that she was well-loved and very lucky
to have such a wonderful Mom!!!  Hang in there.

MJ

*elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
 Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple
blossoms.

It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.
I love you.

elizabeth



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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Marissa,  Thank you so much.  I know you are all going to think I am crazy
(if you didn't already) - but when I got home with Mama Kitty (I wouldn't
let them put her in the pet taxi - she always hated it)...I lifted her from
the front seat, wrapped in her towel, tears streaming down my face.  I swear
to you I heard several purrs.  I think it was just her way of letting me
know it was ok.

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oh Elizabeth!  I'm so sorry!!  But I know Slinky will be happy to have
such a wonderful friend at the bridge...they can keep each other company and
share stories about their crazy mamas.  Slinky visited me this morning, I
will pray that Mama Kitty greets you as well.

I know how hard this is now.  Know that she was well-loved and very lucky
to have such a wonderful Mom!!!  Hang in there.

MJ

*elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

 Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple
blossoms.

It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.
I love you.

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread wendy
Oh Elizabeth,

Bless your heart.  I am so, so sorry that Mama Kitty
has passed.  I can't believe it.  If you need
ANYTHING, just let me know.  I'm here for you.

You're in my thoughts and prayers,
:)
Wendy

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Leslie, thank you.

By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really bad seizures
every few minutes.   She really did not know where she was.  She had lost
over a pound this week and her gums were just white.  The vet felt that she
was not getting enough oxygen to her brain.  She couldn't stand - she was
just like a little rag doll.  Her back was very sensitive - she was
obviously in pain - I am not sure why.  I talked to her.  She was ready to
go.  She didn't want to be kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away
and be in pain.  It was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right
one for her.  She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a
second or two - she was very calm.

There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it
cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of
life.  I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would have been
selfish of me.  She made it almost a year after her first crash with an
excellent quality of life.  This all happened so fast.

I am so glad she slept with me last night.  She knew that she was loved.  I
am so grateful for the time we had together.

This is so very hard.  We had such a close bond.

Every day is a gift.
elizabeth



On 3/28/07, Leslie Lawther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


*I think I missed something... wasn't she having seizures?  Did you find
out what caused them?  *
**
*I'm sooo sorry Elizabeth... When I read about the seizures I felt so
bad... I went through that with our Tikki (double positive) last year.  We
never did find out what was causing them.  *

*I'm sooo sorry for your loss.  *
**
*Leslie =^..^=*



On 3/28/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At 08:27 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
>
>
> OhElizabeth
> I hurts so much I know, You are not alone and it is good Mama Kitty
> is in no more pain, and you have taken that pain for her. Time will
> ease the pain and the happy memories will take over, but that will
> take a while,]
> You are not alone in this, all of our thoughts are with you now,
> Kelly L
>
>
> >Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
> >much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with
> >tulips and apple blossoms.
> >
> >It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
> >heart.  I love you.
> >
> >elizabeth
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> 3/26/2007
>
>
>


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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, Sherry.

On 3/28/07, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So sorry Elizabeth about your sweet Mama Kitty.Hugs to you
Sherry

*elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

 Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple
blossoms.

It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.
I love you.

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, MC.  Your kind words mean so much.

On 3/28/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


oh, my dear friend, i am so sorry.

surrounded by roses, and covered in flowers--tangible fragments of the
sparkling love she was surrounded by during her time on this part of her
journey.

GLOW to guide her way to the bridge, and to heal your heart.

mama kitty had become part of my family, too, and we celebrate the life
she shared with us.

MC

On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
> much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and
> apple blossoms.
>
> It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
> heart.  I love you.
>
> elizabeth
>



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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Diane - I am sorry I misspelled your name.  My dear sister-in-law is named
Diana - I'm just not thinking clearly right now.

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thank you, Diana.  I just replied to Leslie explaining what happend.  She
went downhill very fast.  I knew that at some point last night she was
having more than one seizure an hour and I knew that was bad.  I had hoped
so much that this was something that could be controlled but it was not to
be.  I really think now that last summer when she had the seizure with the
pet tinic that it was more related to the disease.

elizabeth


 On 3/28/07, Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  This was the last I heard too...Elizabeth, what happened?  I'm so very
> sorry she had to leave you.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Mama Kitty and hugs
> to you.
>
> Diane R.
>
>  --
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *On Behalf Of *Leslie Lawther
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:05 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
>
>
>  *I think I missed something... wasn't she having seizures?  Did you
> find out what caused them?  *
> **
> *I'm sooo sorry Elizabeth... When I read about the seizures I felt so
> bad... I went through that with our Tikki (double positive) last year.  We
> never did find out what was causing them.  *
>
> *I'm sooo sorry for your loss.  *
> **
> *Leslie =^..^=*
>
>
>
> On 3/28/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > At 08:27 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > OhElizabeth
> > I hurts so much I know, You are not alone and it is good Mama Kitty
> > is in no more pain, and you have taken that pain for her. Time will
> > ease the pain and the happy memories will take over, but that will
> > take a while,]
> > You are not alone in this, all of our thoughts are with you now,
> > Kelly L
> >
> >
> > >Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
> > >much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with
> > >tulips and apple blossoms.
> > >
> > >It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
> > >heart.  I love you.
> > >
> > >elizabeth
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>
> --
> Leslie =^..^=
>
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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Thank you, Diana.  I just replied to Leslie explaining what happend.  She
went downhill very fast.  I knew that at some point last night she was
having more than one seizure an hour and I knew that was bad.  I had hoped
so much that this was something that could be controlled but it was not to
be.  I really think now that last summer when she had the seizure with the
pet tinic that it was more related to the disease.

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 This was the last I heard too...Elizabeth, what happened?  I'm so very
sorry she had to leave you.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Mama Kitty and hugs
to you.

Diane R.

 --
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Leslie Lawther
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:05 AM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty


 *I think I missed something... wasn't she having seizures?  Did you find
out what caused them?  *
**
*I'm sooo sorry Elizabeth... When I read about the seizures I felt so
bad... I went through that with our Tikki (double positive) last year.  We
never did find out what was causing them.  *

*I'm sooo sorry for your loss.  *
**
*Leslie =^..^=*



On 3/28/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At 08:27 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
>
>
> OhElizabeth
> I hurts so much I know, You are not alone and it is good Mama Kitty
> is in no more pain, and you have taken that pain for her. Time will
> ease the pain and the happy memories will take over, but that will
> take a while,]
> You are not alone in this, all of our thoughts are with you now,
> Kelly L
>
>
> >Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
> >much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with
> >tulips and apple blossoms.
> >
> >It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
> >heart.  I love you.
> >
> >elizabeth
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>
>
>


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Possibly Very Important for FeLV kitties: IV Vitamin C being given for human cancer patients; FDA has recently approved

2007-03-28 Thread wendy
Hi guys,

I have a friend who's husband just went through chemo
for thyroid cancer (neck area).  He's in his late
twenties/early thirties.  He is cancer-free now, thank
the good Lord.  She is a pharmaceutical rep.  We were
talking Sunday about Vitamin C and how it helped me to
stop getting sick so much after I first started
teaching, and somehow we got on the topic of cats and
vitamin C being used to strengthen their immune
systems.  She told me through her research while her
husband was sick, that she found recently that Vitamin
C is now being given intraveneously to cancer patients
who have lymphoma and breast cancer, as well as other
cancers, and that they are responding to it very well.
 She said that the vitamin C once injected into the
bloodstream either turns into or produces hydrogen
peroxide, which travels through the blood stream,
completely annihiliates the cancer cells and
strengthens the good cells.  As I understand it,
cancer cells themselves are weak cells so they are
easy to destroy; the problem with them is that they
multiply easily, which is why cutting into cancer
cells to remove them backfires often because the whole
cancer cell(s) isn't always removed and new cancer
cells grow from them.  The bad thing about chemo is
that yes, it does destroy cancer cells but it also
destroys many of the good cells too.  I think the
numbers she quoted were with chemo, 85%+ of the bad
cells can be destroyed, but 20-85% of the good cells
are destroyed too.  With Vitamin C, the studies are
showing a better destruction rate of the cancer cells,
and no destruction of the good cells.  She said that
the FDA has recently approved trials using the IV
Vitamin C.  

Here is an article on that: 
http://www.physorg.com/news87833644.html

I thought this was so important and wanted to share it
with you guys, not only for our furbabies with
leukemia, but also for those of you who have family
members or friends who have or have had cancer.  I
have no idea how a cat's body would react to having
Vitamin C injected into it's blood stream, but I would
be VERY interested if the veterinary colleges have
done any studies on this and what the outcome was.  I
did read that intraveneous vitamin c is given, along
with other things, to treat acetaminophen toxicity in
animals. 
(www.manhattancats.com/Articles/toxic_tragediesl.html)

I also found this quote: Ascorbate when used at the
proper high levels is a non-toxic, non-specific,
therapeutic virucidal agent (Stone, 1972)" in this
website/article on :
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int_assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm

The article is from 1975 in a veterinary medicine
journal and written by two vets.  I also read this
paragraph in that article: "One of us (one of the two
vets who wrote the article) has been using megascorbic
veterinary therapy in the viral diseases for the past
eight years although the rationale was not too clear
in the early treatments. All that was known was that
it worked and gave successful results where other
treatments failed. We now know that we are merely
duplicating and aiding a normal mammalian protective
mechanism against disease stress by providing enough
ascorbate to maintain biochemical homeostasis. This
normally is the function of the mammalian liver but
for some reason the liver enzymes do not seem to
produce enough ascorbate, fast enough during disease
stress in these small mammals. This successful therapy
may be regarded as an application of veterinary
orthomolecular medicine."  

And this paragraph: "The intravenous use of ascorbate
is especially valuable in the therapy of the viral
diseases as it appears to be an effective,
non-specific, non-toxic virucidal agent. We have not
seen any viral disease that did not respond to this
treatment. Successful therapy appears to depend on
using it in sufficiently large doses."

Also, as I was reading through the vitamin C
Foundation's website, I did a search for feline, and
found the article linked below.  It says that
hyper-oxygenation was found to 'get rid of' feline
leukemia.  The article stated that the two basic types
of oxygen therapy are ozone blood infusion, and
absorption of oxygen water (hydrogen peroxide) at very
low concentrations.  There's that hydrogen peroxide
again! 

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/oxygen.htm

It's about 2/3 down the way of the very long article
under Veterinary and Agricultural Applications.  I
just went under Edit, Find, and typed in 'feline', and
it took me straight to the paragraph.  

Has anyone heard about this?  Is this another crack
pot cure?   What do you think about all this???!

Thanks,
:)
Wendy

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world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


 

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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

thank you, Kelly

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


At 08:27 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:


OhElizabeth
I hurts so much I know, You are not alone and it is good Mama Kitty
is in no more pain, and you have taken that pain for her. Time will
ease the pain and the happy memories will take over, but that will
take a while,]
You are not alone in this, all of our thoughts are with you now,
Kelly L


>Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
>much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with
>tulips and apple blossoms.
>
>It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
>heart.  I love you.
>
>elizabeth
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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

thank you, Kelley

elizabeth


On 3/28/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oh Elizabeth,

I'm so sorry for your loss.

Kelley


 On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
> much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and
> apple blossoms.
>
> It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
> heart.  I love you.
>
> elizabeth
>



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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia


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2007-03-28 Thread Kelly L

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Re: Fred Update

2007-03-28 Thread Beth Noren

Hi Belinda,
Glad to hear that Fred spirits are up.  Is there any way you could have a
syringe filled with water or tuna juice and maybe squirt it in after he gets
his pills?  I don't know how possible that would be if he's struggling, why
is it the ones that really really need the meds seem to be the ones who
fight it most?  So frustrating...

Good luck,
Beth


On 3/28/07, Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi All,
 I was going to have them put another tube in but I think they
would have to wait 2 or 3 weeks because his infection isn't gone yet and
they said we would have to wait for that to completely heal.  But I have
already decided to wait on the tube because it is so obvious that Fred
is a different cat without it.  He slept on my pillow for the first time
in 6 weeks, coincidentally about as long as he had his tube.  Even Mike,
my hubby noticed the difference, Fred was scratching on the bathroom
door wanting in while hubby was in there this morning, something he did
every morning before he got the tube but not once after.

My greatest concern is getting his meds into him and getting him to eat
enough.  Gave him his blood pressure meds this morning and it wasn't
pretty, I can get the pills into him, it's getting him to drink or eat
something after to make sure they go down and don't sit in his throat.
I've made a deal with him that if he learns to cooperate with meds and
eats better in the next 2 or 3 weeks we will put off the feeding tube
indefinitely, so we'll see what happens.

I'm going to ask my vet about injections for his potassium supplement
and find out if his norvasc can be compounded or if it comes in an
injectable, I think I already called the companies that sell it and I
don't think it can be made into an injectable but I really don't
remember.  It's been a very trying 6 weeks, Fred's had an infection for
pretty much most of that time.

I'm worried about what the future holds but I'm really going to try and
just take it one day at a time.

--

Belinda
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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Kelly L

At 09:21 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:



And of course Little White DEAF kitty who has been there 8 days will 
feel very important showing the new comers al the ropes,,,

Kelly


Oh Elizabeth!  I'm so sorry!!  But I know Slinky will be happy to 
have such a wonderful friend at the bridge...they can keep each 
other company and share stories about their crazy mamas.  Slinky 
visited me this morning, I will pray that Mama Kitty greets you as well.


I know how hard this is now.  Know that she was well-loved and very 
lucky to have such a wonderful Mom!!!  Hang in there.


MJ

elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so 
much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with 
tulips and apple blossoms.


It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my 
heart.  I love you.


elizabeth



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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Kelly L

At 09:21 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:



And of course Little WHite DEAF kitty who has been there 8 days will 
feel very important showing the new comers al the ropes,,,

Kelly


Oh Elizabeth!  I'm so sorry!!  But I know Slinky will be happy to 
have such a wonderful friend at the bridge...they can keep each 
other company and share stories about their crazy mamas.  Slinky 
visited me this morning, I will pray that Mama Kitty greets you as well.


I know how hard this is now.  Know that she was well-loved and very 
lucky to have such a wonderful Mom!!!  Hang in there.


MJ

elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so 
much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with 
tulips and apple blossoms.


It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my 
heart.  I love you.


elizabeth



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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Marissa Johnson
Oh Elizabeth!  I'm so sorry!!  But I know Slinky will be happy to have such a 
wonderful friend at the bridge...they can keep each other company and share 
stories about their crazy mamas.  Slinky visited me this morning, I will pray 
that Mama Kitty greets you as well.
   
  I know how hard this is now.  Know that she was well-loved and very lucky to 
have such a wonderful Mom!!!  Hang in there.
   
  MJ

elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.  
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple 
blossoms.  
   
  It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.  I 
love you.
   
  elizabeth



 
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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan
So sorry Elizabeth about your sweet Mama Kitty.Hugs to you
  Sherry

elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.  
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple 
blossoms.  
   
  It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.  I 
love you.
   
  elizabeth



 
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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread TenHouseCats

oh, my dear friend, i am so sorry.

surrounded by roses, and covered in flowers--tangible fragments of the
sparkling love she was surrounded by during her time on this part of her
journey.

GLOW to guide her way to the bridge, and to heal your heart.

mama kitty had become part of my family, too, and we celebrate the life she
shared with us.

MC

On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple
blossoms.

It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.
I love you.

elizabeth





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RE: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
This was the last I heard too...Elizabeth, what happened?  I'm so very
sorry she had to leave you.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Mama Kitty and
hugs to you.
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leslie Lawther
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty


I think I missed something... wasn't she having seizures?  Did you find
out what caused them?  
 
I'm sooo sorry Elizabeth... When I read about the seizures I felt so
bad... I went through that with our Tikki (double positive) last year.
We never did find out what was causing them.  
 
I'm sooo sorry for your loss.  
 
Leslie =^..^=


 
On 3/28/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

At 08:27 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:


OhElizabeth
I hurts so much I know, You are not alone and it is good Mama
Kitty 
is in no more pain, and you have taken that pain for her. Time
will
ease the pain and the happy memories will take over, but that
will
take a while,]
You are not alone in this, all of our thoughts are with you now,

Kelly L


>Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved
so
>much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with
>tulips and apple blossoms.
>
>It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in
my 
>heart.  I love you.
>
>elizabeth
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Date: 3/26/2007







-- 
Leslie =^..^=

To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden
patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.
That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. 
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Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread dede hicken
 Elizabeth:

So very sorry for your loss.  I know how bad it hurts.
 Each one of them is special.  May you feel conforted
knowing she is at peace. You both will always be
friends, and someday be together again.

Dede
--- elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard
> that you loved so much.
> You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave
> with tulips and apple
> blossoms.
> 
> It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever
> be alive in my heart.  I
> love you.
> 
> elizabeth
> 


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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Leslie Lawther

*I think I missed something... wasn't she having seizures?  Did you find out
what caused them?  *
**
*I'm sooo sorry Elizabeth... When I read about the seizures I felt so bad...
I went through that with our Tikki (double positive) last year.  We never
did find out what was causing them.  *

*I'm sooo sorry for your loss.  *
**
*Leslie =^..^=*



On 3/28/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


At 08:27 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:


OhElizabeth
I hurts so much I know, You are not alone and it is good Mama Kitty
is in no more pain, and you have taken that pain for her. Time will
ease the pain and the happy memories will take over, but that will
take a while,]
You are not alone in this, all of our thoughts are with you now,
Kelly L


>Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so
>much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with
>tulips and apple blossoms.
>
>It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my
>heart.  I love you.
>
>elizabeth
>No virus found in this incoming message.
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To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden
patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.  That
only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success.
---Ralph Waldo Emerson


Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Kelly L

At 08:27 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote:


OhElizabeth
I hurts so much I know, You are not alone and it is good Mama Kitty 
is in no more pain, and you have taken that pain for her. Time will 
ease the pain and the happy memories will take over, but that will 
take a while,]

You are not alone in this, all of our thoughts are with you now,
Kelly L


Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so 
much.  You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with 
tulips and apple blossoms.


It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my 
heart.  I love you.


elizabeth
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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread Kelley Saveika

Oh Elizabeth,

I'm so sorry for your loss.

Kelley


On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple
blossoms.

It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.
I love you.

elizabeth





--
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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia


Re: Mama Kitty - seizure

2007-03-28 Thread wendy
Pet Tinic is fine.  Elizabeth said that Mama Kitty
doesn't do well on it, so it's an individual thing
with her.

:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What is the problem with Pet Tinic?  I give it to
> Dixie and the ferals and 
> now I am concerned.  I'd appreciate any information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  If
> you have men who will 
> exclude any of God's creatures
> 
> from the shelter of 
> compassion and pity, you will have men who
> 
> will deal likewise with 
> their fellow man.
> 
>  St. 
> Francis
> - Original Message - 
> From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Mama Kitty - seizure
> 
> 
> > Hey Elizabeth,
> >
> > I hate that Mama Kitty had a seizure.  You must
> have
> > been beside yourself!  Is she taking a medicine
> > similar to Pet Tinic?  I hope that her seizure was
> > only ideopathic, but it's still scary!  Please let
> us
> > know how she does at the vet's today.  I am so
> glad
> > she did not leave you last night.
> >
> > :)
> > Wendy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
> committed citizens can 
> > change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that
> ever has!" ~~~ Margaret 
> > Meade ~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

> > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
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Good Bye Mama Kitty

2007-03-28 Thread elizabeth trent

Mama Kitty,  You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much.
You are surrounded by roses.  I covered your grave with tulips and apple
blossoms.

It hurts so much to say goodbye.  You will forever be alive in my heart.  I
love you.

elizabeth


Re: Fred Update

2007-03-28 Thread Gussies mom
Belinda, if you can get your husband to help, have him ready with a syringe for 
water or some tasty liquid. When you put the pill in, syringe some water in. 
They have to swallow.
   
  Beth

Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi All,
I was going to have them put another tube in but I think they 
would have to wait 2 or 3 weeks because his infection isn't gone yet and 
they said we would have to wait for that to completely heal. But I have 
already decided to wait on the tube because it is so obvious that Fred 
is a different cat without it. He slept on my pillow for the first time 
in 6 weeks, coincidentally about as long as he had his tube. Even Mike, 
my hubby noticed the difference, Fred was scratching on the bathroom 
door wanting in while hubby was in there this morning, something he did 
every morning before he got the tube but not once after.

My greatest concern is getting his meds into him and getting him to eat 
enough. Gave him his blood pressure meds this morning and it wasn't 
pretty, I can get the pills into him, it's getting him to drink or eat 
something after to make sure they go down and don't sit in his throat. 
I've made a deal with him that if he learns to cooperate with meds and 
eats better in the next 2 or 3 weeks we will put off the feeding tube 
indefinitely, so we'll see what happens.

I'm going to ask my vet about injections for his potassium supplement 
and find out if his norvasc can be compounded or if it comes in an 
injectable, I think I already called the companies that sell it and I 
don't think it can be made into an injectable but I really don't 
remember. It's been a very trying 6 weeks, Fred's had an infection for 
pretty much most of that time.

I'm worried about what the future holds but I'm really going to try and 
just take it one day at a time.

-- 

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com




 
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Re: Fred Update

2007-03-28 Thread Marylyn
Obviously I am a big believer in AC whether you do it, an amateur does it or 
you hire a pro.  Try talking to Fred and explaining why he needs the meds 
and ask what you can do to make it easier.  The Royal Princess Kitty Katt 
told a group of acs that she would take some thyroid meds if they were in 
whipped cream (I didn't even know she knew what it was).  She did---for a 
while.


Also, try tasting some of the meds yourself.  If they are particularly awful 
put them very far back in the mouth or try coating them with something like 
cheese so they don't melt on him.


Just ideas.  Take what you think will help and leave the rest.  But please 
accept all the blessings for you, Fred and your family.  You are doing what 
is best for Fred in his entire being.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Fred Update



Hi All,
 I was going to have them put another tube in but I think they would 
have to wait 2 or 3 weeks because his infection isn't gone yet and they 
said we would have to wait for that to completely heal.  But I have 
already decided to wait on the tube because it is so obvious that Fred is 
a different cat without it.  He slept on my pillow for the first time in 6 
weeks, coincidentally about as long as he had his tube.  Even Mike, my 
hubby noticed the difference, Fred was scratching on the bathroom door 
wanting in while hubby was in there this morning, something he did every 
morning before he got the tube but not once after.


My greatest concern is getting his meds into him and getting him to eat 
enough.  Gave him his blood pressure meds this morning and it wasn't 
pretty, I can get the pills into him, it's getting him to drink or eat 
something after to make sure they go down and don't sit in his throat. 
I've made a deal with him that if he learns to cooperate with meds and 
eats better in the next 2 or 3 weeks we will put off the feeding tube 
indefinitely, so we'll see what happens.


I'm going to ask my vet about injections for his potassium supplement and 
find out if his norvasc can be compounded or if it comes in an injectable, 
I think I already called the companies that sell it and I don't think it 
can be made into an injectable but I really don't remember.  It's been a 
very trying 6 weeks, Fred's had an infection for pretty much most of that 
time.


I'm worried about what the future holds but I'm really going to try and 
just take it one day at a time.


--

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com







Slinky - sad news

2007-03-28 Thread Lomaxturtle
Awww your story of telling slinky about friends at the bridge has just  
raised a few memories of my previous kitties. It is heartbreaking to go through 
 
this and my heart goes out to you and Slinky. Slinky will know you have done  
everything possible and are still helping him to feel better by helping him  
cross to the pain free bridge. So hard to let them go but Slinky is far better  
off with you helping him to cross over and having so much love and comfort  
throughout his journey xxx enjoy your time with him - quality time is priceless 
 
no matter how short that time maybe xxx
 
Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble  xxx



   


Re: Mama Kitty - seizure

2007-03-28 Thread Marylyn
What is the problem with Pet Tinic?  I give it to Dixie and the ferals and 
now I am concerned.  I'd appreciate any information.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Mama Kitty - seizure



Hey Elizabeth,

I hate that Mama Kitty had a seizure.  You must have
been beside yourself!  Is she taking a medicine
similar to Pet Tinic?  I hope that her seizure was
only ideopathic, but it's still scary!  Please let us
know how she does at the vet's today.  I am so glad
she did not leave you last night.

:)
Wendy




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Re: Fred Update

2007-03-28 Thread Sally Davis

Hi Belinda

Sending positive vibes to you and  Fred.

My vet told me how bad the Clindamycin tasted so I expected a struggle.
Junior doesn't even flinch when he gets it. He is pretty good about taking
everything. I give him something like sour cream after the vile tasting
stuff  to cleanse his palette.

Hugs

Sally and Junior


On 3/28/07, Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Hi All,
   First I want to thank everyone for the prayers and positive energy
... well my boy Fred has taken the decision out of my hands for the
moment ... he pulled his tube out today!!

I have an appointment at 8:40AM to see if we can put another one in but
I already know what they are going to tell me because the infection
isn't cleared up yet.  So I'm pretty sure we'll have to wait 2 or 3
weeks for it to heal up completely, this will be hell because Fred is
not eating enough and now I will have a difficult time giving him his
meds that he really needs on top of that ... he absolutely must have his
blood pressure meds so it will be a tussle every morning.  He also needs
his potassium because he was getting weak in the back end because his
potassium was low.  All his kidney values are almost normal again and
now they will get out of wack again.  All the weight he's put back on
will disappear ... I'm so upset.

Fluids are no problem but even getting him to take his antibiotic which
I didn't give him this evening, it's clindamicin, absolutely horrible
tasting, it's one thing to give it to him through his tube but there is
NO way I will make him take that.  I will get clavamox again tomorrow in
pill form.

I can get the pills in him, it's just getting him to drink or eat a
little something after to make sure they go down and don't sit in his
throat, that is the problem.

I'm so disgusted and upset with this whole ordeal, it's been traumatic
and problematic from the start, I really feel once he got the infection
they just didn't give him meds long enough for it to completely clear up
and it's been a nightmare since.  They don't seem to realize he is
older, with existing health problems and needs meds longer to get over
any additional health issues.  I will have the fishmox in a few days and
he is going to get them for 3 or 4 weeks or longer, we're not doing this
any longer, he has been miserable for too long!!

Well I'll give you an update tomorrow, gotta go pick the food up.

--

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com





Fred Update

2007-03-28 Thread Belinda

Hi All,
 I was going to have them put another tube in but I think they 
would have to wait 2 or 3 weeks because his infection isn't gone yet and 
they said we would have to wait for that to completely heal.  But I have 
already decided to wait on the tube because it is so obvious that Fred 
is a different cat without it.  He slept on my pillow for the first time 
in 6 weeks, coincidentally about as long as he had his tube.  Even Mike, 
my hubby noticed the difference, Fred was scratching on the bathroom 
door wanting in while hubby was in there this morning, something he did 
every morning before he got the tube but not once after.


My greatest concern is getting his meds into him and getting him to eat 
enough.  Gave him his blood pressure meds this morning and it wasn't 
pretty, I can get the pills into him, it's getting him to drink or eat 
something after to make sure they go down and don't sit in his throat.  
I've made a deal with him that if he learns to cooperate with meds and 
eats better in the next 2 or 3 weeks we will put off the feeding tube 
indefinitely, so we'll see what happens.


I'm going to ask my vet about injections for his potassium supplement 
and find out if his norvasc can be compounded or if it comes in an 
injectable, I think I already called the companies that sell it and I 
don't think it can be made into an injectable but I really don't 
remember.  It's been a very trying 6 weeks, Fred's had an infection for 
pretty much most of that time.


I'm worried about what the future holds but I'm really going to try and 
just take it one day at a time.


--

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com




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