Re: Update on mva kitties - SAMMI IS SAFE!!
Absolutely fantastic news!!! Gina Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so thrilled to report that Sammi is safe, reunited with Geri, Little Guy and her family! Below is an edited version of the report on what happened last night. HURRAY!! Nina OH MY GOSH - we got Sammi tonight! I am sorry if I have a bunch of typos here but I am pretty much operating on being up since 3:00 am last night.Sammi's human parents decided to come out tonight to look for Sammi.Traps had been set this afternoon where it was obviously she had been hiding out. I was going to go back later and set the rest of the traps. I was supposed to meet the fur parents in a parking lot near the site. I pulled in first and was actually on the phone when I looked to my left and saw Sammi! I told them - I have to go now - I see Sammi. I called the parents and said Where are you? They had just turned down the street and flashed their high beams at me. They got out and I told them Sammi had gone up behind the dumpster where she had eaten the food the night before. This was about 7:45 this evening by the way. So they walked over and started calling her. When Sammi heard their voices, she started meowing. This was the first we had heard anything out of Sammi. Within 10 minutes, dad had Sammi in his arms. They had brought a carrier and I set it on the ground with the door open and then backed off so I would not spook Sammi. I thought he had her secure ly scruffed but just as he was about to put her in the carrier, she flipped around and took off again and went into her hiding place. It took another hour and much coaxing and some food in a small plate that they could shake and finally we got her again. This time we put the carrier in my car and he went in my car and we closed the doors until he had her secure. So Sammi is going to spend the night with Geri and Little Guy and tomorrow will be on her way up north with a volunteer to settle in back home. The parents are so grateful for all of the help that everyone has offered. I cannot believe we got all 3 cats back! It is truly amazing! I guess it takes a village to catch a cat! WOW - I am exhausted but still on such a high from getting this cat. THANK YOU,THANK YOU, THANK YOU everyone for support, comments, encouragement - even though you may not have been here on the front lines. We have made a family very happy. I got to meet the baby tonight. He is adorable and doing as well as can be expected. They may not get around to thanking everyone personally but please know that they are extremely grateful for all of the kind words, efforts and they are truly amazed that all of these strangers came out to help them.Good night! Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
Re: Update on mva kitties - all three kitties are safe with Cyndi
It truly is a miracle come true for these kitties and their family to be reunited. A miracle spurred on by some incredible people, I believe all the good thoughts, Glow and prayers had a part in it too. I'm not sure how long Cyndi, (the family friend up north that started the rescue effort in motion) will continue to keep the webpage updated, (http://immuneweb.org/lostcats/), but if you go take a look, she has posted a picture of the twin boys that were involved in the accident. If you recall, one of the babies was injured, (he's doing well considering, but only time will tell the extent of the head trauma damage), the mother had an eye injury that required surgery and was expected to lose the sight in that eye, but now she has regained some vision and it is hoped that it will continue to improve. Barbara, one of the volunteers arrived late last night at Cyndi's house with all three kitties. It's so wonderful to think that all three kitties are now safe and sound and even were able to transported home together. The dog involved in the accident remains with the family at the grandparent's house, (he was uninjured in the crash, as was the dad and other brother). Big ol' sigh of relief, Nina Gina WN wrote: Absolutely fantastic news!!! Gina */Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: I'm so thrilled to report that Sammi is safe, reunited with Geri, Little Guy and her family! Below is an edited version of the report on what happened last night. HURRAY!! Nina OH MY GOSH - we got Sammi tonight! I am sorry if I have a bunch of typos here but I am pretty much operating on being up since 3:00 am last night.Sammi's human parents decided to come out tonight to look for Sammi.Traps had been set this afternoon where it was obviously she had been hiding out. I was going to go back later and set the rest of the traps. I was supposed to meet the fur parents in a parking lot near the site. I pulled in first and was actually on the phone when I looked to my left and saw Sammi! I told them - I have to go now - I see Sammi. I called the parents and said Where are you? They had just turned down the street and flashed their high beams at me. They got out and I told them Sammi had gone up behind the dumpster where she had eaten the food the night before. This was about 7:45 this evening by the way. So they walked over and started calling her. When Sammi heard their voices, she started meowing. This was the first we had heard anything out of Sammi. Within 10 minutes, dad had Sammi in his arms. They had brought a carrier and I set it on the ground with the door open and then backed off so I would not spook Sammi. I thought he had her secure ly scruffed but just as he was about to put her in the carrier, she flipped around and took off again and went into her hiding place. It took another hour and much coaxing and some food in a small plate that they could shake and finally we got her again. This time we put the carrier in my car and he went in my car and we closed the doors until he had her secure. So Sammi is going to spend the night with Geri and Little Guy and tomorrow will be on her way up north with a volunteer to settle in back home. The parents are so grateful for all of the help that everyone has offered. I cannot believe we got all 3 cats back! It is truly amazing! I guess it takes a village to catch a cat! WOW - I am exhausted but still on such a high from getting this cat. THANK YOU,THANK YOU, THANK YOU everyone for support, comments, encouragement - even though you may not have been here on the front lines. We have made a family very happy. I got to meet the baby tonight. He is adorable and doing as well as can be expected. They may not get around to thanking everyone personally but please know that they are extremely grateful for all of the kind words, efforts and they are truly amazed that all of these strangers came out to help them. Good night! ** *Visit my **Tigger Tales* http://tiggerwiggins.com/* site!* Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/index;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx?link=asksid=396546091 for great tips from Yahoo! Answers http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/index;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx?link=asksid=396546091 users.
Re: Update on mva kitties - all three kitties are safe with Cyndi
and now if you look at the website, they've got pictures taken LAST NIGHT of the three kitties, safe back in their home town, with cyndi. they've got an appointment this afternoon with their very own veterinarian, and they'll be in safe, loving care until their humans are well enough to travel home. blessings to all these folks who didn't sit back and talk, but got on the web, got out of bed in the middle of the night with flashlights, who posted signs all over the place (then went and took them all DOWN once the kitties were safe!), to people who saw a little post on their computer screen and knew, there was need. and knew that that was all that mattered. i am honored and humbled, yet again, to be part of that community that truly can call itself Rescue. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: pet-food recall info
I couldn't agree more. They are the pharmaceutical industry's ally. It comes down to that. Pam elizabeth trent wrote: I'm really having a problem with the FDA. I don't think they have been fast enough or honest enough. They really have not impressed me as being my ally or my pet's ally. elizabeth On 5/4/07, *MaryChristine* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you're right--they will try to find some way to make money from it. that's why we're in this mess to START with. sigh. On 5/4/07, *Debi Holmes *[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it very hard to believe that they are going to keep this food that is making them no money in warehouses!!! Are they going to keep it there to kill the mice and rats?? */Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: One not so great thing about my phone call to Pet Food Direct... The woman I talked to suggested I donate the food to a shelter or rescue. Of course I told her that that wasn't a good idea. I certainly wouldn't want some orphan cat or pup eating something that I wouldn't feed my own kids. I have wondered too where all the recalled food is going, (besides the possibility of it being sold as salvage food for poultry and stockyards). Even if it is dumped, what about the birds and wildlife that would find it? When I was watching the committee hearings that you and Belinda alerted us to, the question was asked and we were told that it was being warehoused. I find little comfort in the assurances of big business, but I wish someone had thought to ask and what happens to it when you are ready to clear those warehouses? Nina MaryChristine wrote: has anyone heard anything about a SAFE way to dispose of the bad food? so it doesn't end up being fed to, say, cattle and pigs and other food animals? On 5/4/07, * Nina* wrote: Wow, I'm shocked at the service at Pet Food Direct. I called them asking about returning the unused portion of Triumph food I purchased from them and they told me to write to them including the UPS code from each of the varieties I feel uncomfortable about using and they would refund my account. I don't even have to send back the unused portion of my order. Thought I'd let you know in case the companies you are dealing with are as accommodating. It truly never hurts to ask. I guess I won't be choking down cat food and crackers after all. Nina Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
on the fda's role in this......
and the ally of the meat-producers' industry as well. they have never had enough inspectors to really protect our food supply, because the people who make the MONEY don't want things looked into too closely. those making the money--and the decisions--are not you or me, or the people in india or china or anyplace else working for pennies an hour. we keep saying these people stole our jobs--no, they were handed our jobs on the proverbial silver platters, by governments (on both sides) who only care for the bottom line of the those who protect THEIR interests. the common people--anywhere--don't particularly enter into any of this. sadly, this is not new. the information about the political straitjacket that has kept the fda powerless for years has been out there a long time; the questionable practices regarding both the handholding between the meat-producers and the drug companies vs the people who are supposed to be protected by the fda--even everyday fiction has presented it (robin cook's, toxin, arthur hailey's, strong medicine come immediately to mind. ). there's been serious questions about the pet-food industry as well--going back years. there's an old saying silence equaling complicity (and/or death). people with serious questions about both the pet-food and human-food supply were called fanatics, minimized, marginalized--ignored. same thing would have happened with this episode, i believe, if the net hadn't become such a moment-by-moment entity. for list-based people, it's a different world than for bloggers and chatters and IMrs--the former visit the internet often, the latter group have it as their permanent address and never leave home. the national media has not kept this in the forefront. they belong to that corporate culture that would prefer not too many questions be asked about things--who knows what directions fingers might point to next. another great saying from my day (arh, do i feel old lately!): be part of the solution, not part of the problem. folks, this is OUR government we're talking about, let's hold them accountable for a change. if we let them just blame this on some outside agitator, and not look into their own actions that made it possible, this crisis may end. but the seeds for the next one will remain planted, just waiting for the right combination of things to sprout the disaster that may be even worse. oh, hell, maybe i'll just start a blog after all. MC On 5/6/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I couldn't agree more. They are the pharmaceutical industry's ally. It comes down to that. Pam elizabeth trent wrote: I'm really having a problem with the FDA. I don't think they have been fast enough or honest enough. They really have not impressed me as being my ally or my pet's ally. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
latest on itchmo.com
i'd probably laugh if i weren't crying. http://www.itchmo.com/ -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
even worse, read what prompted itchmo's comments!
http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/05/pet-food-recall-saturday-night-news-update-the-christies-head-explodes-edition/ sigh. christie is one of the folks who first hired me as a chat-host seven years ago. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
We need answers...
Hi Everyone, I certainly hope I am doing this right...I am a member of other lists, but this one appears different for some reason...anyway, my friend and I rescued 8 kittens last weekend. 2 were older kitties. 1 was a momma cat with 3 kittens and 3 other kittens we had to give to her because their other momma disappeared...and then a 6 month old. The male 6 month old tested negative on a combo...but the momma ended up testing positive for FELV. My friend and I do not know as much as we wish we did about this. We have separated the momma and babies into a separate room than the male kitty. We understand he may have contracted it from her, we need to test him again in 4 months. We want to know as much as we can about this disease and how dangerous it is for other non-positive kitties. Can anyone recommend any sites for us to visit or anyone to talk to? We have searched online but have found so many different opinions on this that it is hard to get answers...some say you can spread the disease through sharing food and water bowls and others say you can't. We are beyond frustrated at this point and need all the help we can get... Thanks, Sheryl - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: We need answers...
FELV+, FIV+, FIP http://ucat.us/FELVFIVFIP.html great site, put together by one of this group's members. has links to what's generally accepted by the scientific community -- tho there's still so much more we need to learn. (hard to do research when the first line of treatment has, for way too long, been euthanasia! really limits the test population) there's some conflicting info there, too, of course, because some of the stuff is older than others. you'll notice, however, that the scariest info you've heard is NOT true, according to all of the professionals! lots of folks will be glad to answer your questions as they come up; take a deep breath, grab one of the kitties, read the articles--then see what more info you need. (oh, and REALLY REALLY check our archives about testing/retesting!) MC On 5/6/07, Sheryl Spagg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I certainly hope I am doing this right...I am a member of other lists, but this one appears different for some reason...anyway, my friend and I rescued 8 kittens last weekend. 2 were older kitties. 1 was a momma cat with 3 kittens and 3 other kittens we had to give to her because their other momma disappeared...and then a 6 month old. The male 6 month old tested negative on a combo...but the momma ended up testing positive for FELV. My friend and I do not know as much as we wish we did about this. We have separated the momma and babies into a separate room than the male kitty. We understand he may have contracted it from her, we need to test him again in 4 months. We want to know as much as we can about this disease and how dangerous it is for other non-positive kitties. Can anyone recommend any sites for us to visit or anyone to talk to? We have searched online but have found so many different opinions on this that it is hard to get answers...some say you can spread the disease through sharing food and water bowls and others say you can't. We are beyond frustrated at this point and need all the help we can get... Thanks, Sheryl -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892