Re: [Felvtalk] Pluto

2009-03-24 Thread TatorBunz
Sherry,
I'm sending all kinds of thoughts and prayers for your kitty along with  
Pluto.
Hope they can turn around for the good.
Dr. Jen has done so much for these kitties as I have read so many times  over 
the course of years.
The doctor has certainly earned her wings!
BTW you too have earned your wings as well.
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] My cat

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
i am a little late with this, but as long as the others are vaccinated, don't 
seperate them.  i went thru the same thing and everyone was miserable.  since 
then i have them wherever they want to be and everyone is doing well.  each one 
picks out his/her favorite place to sleep and whenever i sit still very long, 
they all take turns on my lap.   dorlis
 Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hello.
 
 Yesterday, one of my four cats was diagnosed through the ELIZA test
 with FeLV, and I am just devastated.  He's always
 been healthy; he's 3 y.o. and I'd had him since he was a
 kitten, until last year when he escaped while we were moving.
 He was on the streets for almost four months, then FOUND,
 and I've had him back since early December.  My other three
 cats (two gotten after the original two disappeared, and one who was
 found with him and looks like his original sister but
 subsequently went into heat when she was fixed, so...) tested
 negative.
 
 Right now I have him in my bedroom, totally separate facilities,
 and he's miserable.  I would really appreciate it if anyone had
 any information about infection rates in negative cats living
 with infected ones; if it's not safe, I'm going to have to find him a
 home with other infected cats, because he's too social to be
 isolated like that.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Adoption

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
this subject came up before, but how do you know when to say enough?  i can 
cope with the 5 i have now, but 11!  i would be broke.  if i could, i know of 
at least 20 more cats looking for homes in our area.  everyday, someone says do 
you want another cat.  if only people would just get their cats neutered and 
spayed.  forgot who said it, but sometimes i think we would be better off if 
some people were neutered and spayed.  dorlis
 Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi Jenny
 
 That is so great of you to offer. I hope Mike gets back to you. I actually
 mixed my positive and negative after a short period apart. The negatives
 were vaccinated. There had already been exposure in my case. It was less
 stressful for all the cats. I have 11 now. I think I had 9 then but new ones
 kept showing up. They get dumped here.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] My cat

2009-03-24 Thread SALLY NORDSTROM

When one kitten in a litter I fostered tested positive, my vet said to keep 
everyone (my vaccinated cat and stray mom and her litter) together.  I was so 
scared, but the folks on this list helped me to realize that this disease may 
not be as contagious as some think - and my vet concurred.  I was lucky - it 
was a false positive.  But because of the wonderful folks on this list I will 
take in another homeless cat and kittens and not worry at all because all of 
mine (I kept mom and one of the babies) are vaccinated.  Then I will follow my 
vet's advice and test mom first, then work from there.

Thanks to everyone on this list - maybe someday all kitties will have homes 
regardless of their FeLV status because of your bravery and persistence.  

Sally   


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 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My cat
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc: Molly Mitchell molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 9:32 PM
 i am a little late with this, but as long as the others are
 vaccinated, don't seperate them.  i went thru the same
 thing and everyone was miserable.  since then i have them
 wherever they want to be and everyone is doing well.  each
 one picks out his/her favorite place to sleep and whenever i
 sit still very long, they all take turns on my lap.   dorlis
  Molly Mitchell
 molly.kathleen.mitch...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hello.
  
  Yesterday, one of my four cats was diagnosed through
 the ELIZA test
  with FeLV, and I am just devastated.  He's always
  been healthy; he's 3 y.o. and I'd had him
 since he was a
  kitten, until last year when he escaped while we were
 moving.
  He was on the streets for almost four months, then
 FOUND,
  and I've had him back since early December.  My
 other three
  cats (two gotten after the original two disappeared,
 and one who was
  found with him and looks like his original
 sister but
  subsequently went into heat when she was fixed, so...)
 tested
  negative.
  
  Right now I have him in my bedroom, totally separate
 facilities,
  and he's miserable.  I would really appreciate it
 if anyone had
  any information about infection rates in negative cats
 living
  with infected ones; if it's not safe, I'm
 going to have to find him a
  home with other infected cats, because he's too
 social to be
  isolated like that.
  
  Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Adoption

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
thank God there  are people like you who will take the time to find homes for 
these positive babies. been fighting with my computer lateley.   my positive is 
healthy, sassy and sweet as can be.  why don't shelters want to adopt out 
positive cats?  is it insurance or do they just have too many healthy cats to 
take time for felv babies?  dorlis
 JENI RECA jrock...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Hi,
 There is a male felv positive cat (tested positive on IFA and elisa) that 
 needs a home.  I work for a shelter and they do not adopt out felv positive 
 cats and give me a week to find a home or place for them.  I am currently 
 away in france until the 7th but asked if the vet if he could stay there 
 until I came back, finding out the answer tomorrow.  From what I they emailed 
 me he is male, 1-2 years old and very sweet.  He is getting neutered 
 tomorrow.  Any takers will find a way to get him anywhere.  Currently he is 
 in new york out on long island.  
 thanks very much
 Jeni
 jrock...@hotmail
 
 (i currently live in a very small house with two felv positive cats, three 
 dogs and a 10 week old infant...i think it would be a bit too much to take on 
 another cat...thanks)
 
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:02:58 -0800
  From: stylin72...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Adoption
  
  I have a stray cat that looks completely healthy. After a check up at the 
  vet, I found out that she is Felv positive. The trouble is that I have dogs 
  and a cat (felv negative) so I keep the stray cat quarantined. She's a 
  great cat, very friendly, and I'm looking for a home for her (preferrably 
  one that would treat her with acemannan.) I live in Chicago and am looking 
  for someone relatively close by. Any possible leads would be appreciated.
   
  Mike
  
  

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Re: [Felvtalk] My Mickey

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
God bless you and comfort you.  dorlis
 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Viky, we mourn with you for the loss of your sweet baby!
 
 Debbie (COL)
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  Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:50:43 -0600
  From: vdiga...@dss.state.la.us
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] My Mickey
  
  In October I joined the group requesting information on hemangio sarcoma 
  which my felv cat was diagnosed with. Everything I read was bad. He had the 
  first tumor removed on 10-13-08. It came back this time two tumors and they 
  were removed on 1-6-09. This surgery was very, very difficult on him to get 
  over. Then on 2-13-09 the vet discovered it had come back even more rapidly 
  than the first time. x-rays showed nothing in the lungs or spleen but the 
  liver was hard to see though not enlarged. This past Monday he stopped 
  eating and drinking and I knew it was time. The next morning I took my 
  heart disguised as a little 7 pound black and white angel to the vet for 
  the final time. The night before I laid him on the bed next to me and he 
  stared into my face purring for hours. The cancer had spread to his liver 
  and I knew I could not stand for him be in pain. Before I took him to the 
  vet I wrapped him in his cat blanket and walked him all over the yard so he 
  could see his ducks and feel the air on his face. He loved to be outside. 
  So from start to finish he lived 19 weeks from diagnosis. This is a deadly, 
  aggressive cancer and I hope none of you experience it with your babies. I 
  had my little man for 8 years and 7 months and they were worth every minute.
  
  
  
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  Fax 318-362-3363
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] My Mickey

2009-03-24 Thread Cougar Clan
Bless you.  He knows he is loved (he is still near you, just not in  
the same form) and returns your love times hundreds.

On Mar 24, 2009, at 9:51 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:


God bless you and comfort you.  dorlis
 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote:


Viky, we mourn with you for the loss of your sweet baby!

Debbie (COL)
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:50:43 -0600
From: vdiga...@dss.state.la.us
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] My Mickey

In October I joined the group requesting information on hemangio  
sarcoma which my felv cat was diagnosed with. Everything I read  
was bad. He had the first tumor removed on 10-13-08. It came back  
this time two tumors and they were removed on 1-6-09. This surgery  
was very, very difficult on him to get over. Then on 2-13-09 the  
vet discovered it had come back even more rapidly than the first  
time. x-rays showed nothing in the lungs or spleen but the liver  
was hard to see though not enlarged. This past Monday he stopped  
eating and drinking and I knew it was time. The next morning I  
took my heart disguised as a little 7 pound black and white angel  
to the vet for the final time. The night before I laid him on the  
bed next to me and he stared into my face purring for hours. The  
cancer had spread to his liver and I knew I could not stand for  
him be in pain. Before I took him to the vet I wrapped him in his  
cat blanket and walked him all over the yard so he could see his  
ducks and feel the air on his face. He loved to be outside. So  
from start to finish he lived 19 weeks from diagnosis. This is a  
deadly, aggressive cancer and I hope none of you experience it  
with your babies. I had my little man for 8 years and 7 months and  
they were worth every minute.




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Re: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
so sorry about Bashful.  if only there was a way we could get thru to them that 
we are there to help them, we could do so much more for them.  i know lymphoma 
first hand, had it myself and you are right, that is an awful lot to put anyone 
thru.  even then, it doesn't always work.  my oncologist told me that all 3 
chemos i had did nothing.  i simply went into spontaneous remission 1 year 
after treatments were stopped.  i know prayer had a lot to do with it.  that 
and because God had something else in mind for me.  dorlis
 Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I haven't posted much lately, sadly have had quite a few rescue losses in
 the last months as well as rescue emergencies which has me so behind on
 all fronts
 
 However, one of our dear, fairly elderly university campus ferals, Bashful,
 will be crossing this afternoon and I wanted to share her story so that many
 thoughts will be with her.
 
 Bashful's caregiver has been taking care of her for at least 10 years, she
 disappeared a couple of weeks ago which was attributed to roofers at the
 Library where she has lived for so many years.   When she showed back up she
 was clearly in dire need of help.   Elaine her caregiver called me for help
 trapping, 2 friends and I set out without much success the first two
 days--it was heartbreaking, she was half under the drop trap the first night
 but just a bit of food made her choke  cough so horribly, we had tears in
 our eyes just hearing  watching.  Her neck was very, very swollen impairing
 her ability to eat and walk.
 
 We got her 2 nights later, began b/w, examcytology via needle aspirate
 confirmed a high grade, aggressive lymphoma.
 
 We discussed the possibility of chemo but Bashful is very feral and already
 unhappy even being at the vet, it was clear this was not going to be a way
 to give her quality time and that she was already in a very bad state.
 
 One of my good campus friends who came to the call to help drop trap is
 leaving now to be with Bashful for her final moments.   Bashful was not
 FELV+ (likely was FIV+), but I know many here can sympathize with the
 dreadful diagnosis of lymphoma.
 
 We treat feral cats for illnesses as much as we possibly can, I've actually
 got 14 campus feral kitty Bobbye on my porch now for that reason (CRF, FIV+,
 along with Toxoplasmosis  possible eye tumor which has not
 progressed--she's done well other than not liking the fluids of
 course)but it just didn't seem there were any way we could put Bashful
 through chemo, weekly vet visits, and possibly never feeling good enough for
 the time to have been of quality for her.   She is very stressed at my vet
 and we hope things go as peacefully as possible this afternoon.
 
 Go with love, sweet Bashful, and know how badly we wanted to help you--you
 will not be forgotten.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
my prayers for Pepper are already on their way.  dorlis
 Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I would like to add, please also send prayers for Pepper, Bashful's elderly
 buddy who after being treated for scabies recently, is still going strong at
 the Library, but she is FIV+, also more than 10 years old and is
 deafBashful was Pepper's ears and we know Pepper will miss her very
 much.   Please pray for Pepper's safety.
 
 Heather
 
 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I haven't posted much lately, sadly have had quite a few rescue losses in
  the last months as well as rescue emergencies which has me so behind on
  all fronts
 
  However, one of our dear, fairly elderly university campus ferals, Bashful,
  will be crossing this afternoon and I wanted to share her story so that many
  thoughts will be with her.
 
  Bashful's caregiver has been taking care of her for at least 10 years, she
  disappeared a couple of weeks ago which was attributed to roofers at the
  Library where she has lived for so many years.   When she showed back up she
  was clearly in dire need of help.   Elaine her caregiver called me for help
  trapping, 2 friends and I set out without much success the first two
  days--it was heartbreaking, she was half under the drop trap the first night
  but just a bit of food made her choke  cough so horribly, we had tears in
  our eyes just hearing  watching.  Her neck was very, very swollen impairing
  her ability to eat and walk.
 
  We got her 2 nights later, began b/w, examcytology via needle aspirate
  confirmed a high grade, aggressive lymphoma.
 
  We discussed the possibility of chemo but Bashful is very feral and already
  unhappy even being at the vet, it was clear this was not going to be a way
  to give her quality time and that she was already in a very bad state.
 
  One of my good campus friends who came to the call to help drop trap is
  leaving now to be with Bashful for her final moments.   Bashful was not
  FELV+ (likely was FIV+), but I know many here can sympathize with the
  dreadful diagnosis of lymphoma.
 
  We treat feral cats for illnesses as much as we possibly can, I've actually
  got 14 campus feral kitty Bobbye on my porch now for that reason (CRF, FIV+,
  along with Toxoplasmosis  possible eye tumor which has not
  progressed--she's done well other than not liking the fluids of
  course)but it just didn't seem there were any way we could put Bashful
  through chemo, weekly vet visits, and possibly never feeling good enough for
  the time to have been of quality for her.   She is very stressed at my vet
  and we hope things go as peacefully as possible this afternoon.
 
  Go with love, sweet Bashful, and know how badly we wanted to help you--you
  will not be forgotten.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
it takes time, but ferals can be taught to trust us humans.  i had 2 and each 
took around 18 months of concentrated effort before they became lap babies.  
dorlis
 MacKenzie wrote: 
 I'm so sorry to hear about Bashful, Heather. Prayers for Pepper,
 meantime. I do hope she doesn't become chronically depressed. This is
 the first time I've heard of an active attempt to treat feral cats'
 illness and I really applaud you. I have 2 feral cats and I know how
 difficult it is. 
 Hugs and bless you,
 Kerry M
 
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 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:25 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL
 
 I would like to add, please also send prayers for Pepper, Bashful's
 elderly
 buddy who after being treated for scabies recently, is still going
 strong at
 the Library, but she is FIV+, also more than 10 years old and is
 deafBashful was Pepper's ears and we know Pepper will miss her
 very
 much.   Please pray for Pepper's safety.
 
 Heather
 
 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I haven't posted much lately, sadly have had quite a few rescue losses
 in
  the last months as well as rescue emergencies which has me so behind
 on
  all fronts
 
  However, one of our dear, fairly elderly university campus ferals,
 Bashful,
  will be crossing this afternoon and I wanted to share her story so
 that many
  thoughts will be with her.
 
  Bashful's caregiver has been taking care of her for at least 10 years,
 she
  disappeared a couple of weeks ago which was attributed to roofers at
 the
  Library where she has lived for so many years.   When she showed back
 up she
  was clearly in dire need of help.   Elaine her caregiver called me for
 help
  trapping, 2 friends and I set out without much success the first two
  days--it was heartbreaking, she was half under the drop trap the first
 night
  but just a bit of food made her choke  cough so horribly, we had
 tears in
  our eyes just hearing  watching.  Her neck was very, very swollen
 impairing
  her ability to eat and walk.
 
  We got her 2 nights later, began b/w, examcytology via needle
 aspirate
  confirmed a high grade, aggressive lymphoma.
 
  We discussed the possibility of chemo but Bashful is very feral and
 already
  unhappy even being at the vet, it was clear this was not going to be a
 way
  to give her quality time and that she was already in a very bad state.
 
  One of my good campus friends who came to the call to help drop trap
 is
  leaving now to be with Bashful for her final moments.   Bashful was
 not
  FELV+ (likely was FIV+), but I know many here can sympathize with the
  dreadful diagnosis of lymphoma.
 
  We treat feral cats for illnesses as much as we possibly can, I've
 actually
  got 14 campus feral kitty Bobbye on my porch now for that reason (CRF,
 FIV+,
  along with Toxoplasmosis  possible eye tumor which has not
  progressed--she's done well other than not liking the fluids of
  course)but it just didn't seem there were any way we could put
 Bashful
  through chemo, weekly vet visits, and possibly never feeling good
 enough for
  the time to have been of quality for her.   She is very stressed at my
 vet
  and we hope things go as peacefully as possible this afternoon.
 
  Go with love, sweet Bashful, and know how badly we wanted to help
 you--you
  will not be forgotten.
 
  Heather
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
hi,  my vet told me to keep others seperated until their last booster just to 
be sure.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: 
 Hi Amy. I didn't find out my boys were positive until they were in their
 teens. The vet said they were likely carriers and since Squeaky was never
 sick, the vet said his was likely in his bone marrow. Stripes was
 symptomatic on and off. Stripes lived several more years (to age 16) and
 Squeaky lived to age 22. 
 
 Isabella tested positive almost 2 years ago and is the picture of health. 
 
 Your boy could live a long life.
 
 Keep your other kitties separate for at least 24 hours after they are
 vaccinated (I can't recall if they should be separate until the booster in
 30 daysdoes anyone know?).
 
 Laurie
 
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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list.
 
 
 Just wanted to say a quick hello to all the list members- i've just joined
 upon learning this afternoon that my much adored 10 year old cat is
 positive.  We're unsure as to how he contracted feluk as he was tested
 before we adopted him, and the two cats we have adopted since then were both
 tested... sigh.  We take the other two in tomorrow morning to be tested 
 hopefully vaccinated, and then we'll bring my big boy home.  Hopefully he
 will be with us for at least a few more months.  I've been scouring the
 archives and can't express enough gratitude- there is so much wonderful
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
Sue and Frank, where do you get Wellness Core canned food?  do you have an 
email or phone number?  never heard of this before.  
 Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
 Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is hard to want to care 
 for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it.  My sweet gentle Tucker 
 used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
 Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
 ways to help a sick kitty.  Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
 own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
 lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy.  Your best choice 
 may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness 
 Core canned food.)  And making sure there is little or no stress in his life. 
  Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
Sue
 
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet 
 believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools 
 recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach 
 financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult 
 day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
 credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you 
 may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may 
 be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well, but 
 his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
 pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
 mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
 drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He 
 eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
 modifications as well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
 treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
 tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
 close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other 
 two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home 
 tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax.  
 I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the 
 support! 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
reL  finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care Credit?  i 
fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses, dental work, 
vets and even plastic surgery.  the vet collects the charges until they reach 
at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit.  you have a year to pay 
it off with no interest.  you only pay interest if you take more than i year to 
complete payment.  it has helped me out with my babies because i like to get a 
complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on each one so we have a base line 
to start from.  also helps when i have to get shots for all 5 at same time.  
dorlis
 Sue  Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: 
 Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is hard to want to care 
 for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it.  My sweet gentle Tucker 
 used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. 
 Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive 
 ways to help a sick kitty.  Some would much rather be gently let go in their 
 own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might 
 lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy.  Your best choice 
 may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness 
 Core canned food.)  And making sure there is little or no stress in his life. 
  Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr.
You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! 
Sue
 
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
  Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet 
 believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools 
 recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach 
 financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult 
 day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our 
 credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.  Grrr is also, as you 
 may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient.  That may 
 be the understatement of the month.  He is slightly anemic as well, but 
 his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily 
 pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his 
 mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the 
 drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He 
 eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary 
 modifications as well.  Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive 
 treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a 
 tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too 
 close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other 
 two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home 
 tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax.  
 I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the 
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-24 Thread Laurieskatz
You can buy it online (eg Waggin'Tails). If you call around you might find a 
retailer in your area...in my city, a small private garden shop sells it and so 
does Petco.
Laurie 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL

2009-03-24 Thread Cougar Clan
Those who love and care for feral cats have a very difficult calling,  
one that causes great pain when a feral leaves for any reason.   
However, when a feral cares about you, it is the most rewarding  
experience because that caring can not be forced nor is it bred into  
the cat.  Bless you and your friends for caring about these wonderful  
animals.  You did the right thing.  The fear and anger would have made  
Bashful's time unbearable for her.

On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:17 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

so sorry about Bashful.  if only there was a way we could get thru  
to them that we are there to help them, we could do so much more for  
them.  i know lymphoma first hand, had it myself and you are right,  
that is an awful lot to put anyone thru.  even then, it doesn't  
always work.  my oncologist told me that all 3 chemos i had did  
nothing.  i simply went into spontaneous remission 1 year after  
treatments were stopped.  i know prayer had a lot to do with it.   
that and because God had something else in mind for me.  dorlis

 Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't posted much lately, sadly have had quite a few rescue  
losses in
the last months as well as rescue emergencies which has me so  
behind on

all fronts

However, one of our dear, fairly elderly university campus ferals,  
Bashful,
will be crossing this afternoon and I wanted to share her story so  
that many

thoughts will be with her.

Bashful's caregiver has been taking care of her for at least 10  
years, she
disappeared a couple of weeks ago which was attributed to roofers  
at the
Library where she has lived for so many years.   When she showed  
back up she
was clearly in dire need of help.   Elaine her caregiver called me  
for help

trapping, 2 friends and I set out without much success the first two
days--it was heartbreaking, she was half under the drop trap the  
first night
but just a bit of food made her choke  cough so horribly, we had  
tears in
our eyes just hearing  watching.  Her neck was very, very swollen  
impairing

her ability to eat and walk.

We got her 2 nights later, began b/w, examcytology via needle  
aspirate

confirmed a high grade, aggressive lymphoma.

We discussed the possibility of chemo but Bashful is very feral and  
already
unhappy even being at the vet, it was clear this was not going to  
be a way
to give her quality time and that she was already in a very bad  
state.


One of my good campus friends who came to the call to help drop  
trap is
leaving now to be with Bashful for her final moments.   Bashful was  
not

FELV+ (likely was FIV+), but I know many here can sympathize with the
dreadful diagnosis of lymphoma.

We treat feral cats for illnesses as much as we possibly can, I've  
actually
got 14 campus feral kitty Bobbye on my porch now for that reason  
(CRF, FIV+,

along with Toxoplasmosis  possible eye tumor which has not
progressed--she's done well other than not liking the fluids of
course)but it just didn't seem there were any way we could put  
Bashful
through chemo, weekly vet visits, and possibly never feeling good  
enough for
the time to have been of quality for her.   She is very stressed at  
my vet

and we hope things go as peacefully as possible this afternoon.

Go with love, sweet Bashful, and know how badly we wanted to help  
you--you

will not be forgotten.

Heather
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
thank you, got a Petco in our area.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: 
 You can buy it online (eg Waggin'Tails). If you call around you might find a 
 retailer in your area...in my city, a small private garden shop sells it and 
 so does Petco.
 Laurie 
 
 
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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc: Sue  Frank Koren
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
 
 Sue and Frank, where do you get Wellness Core canned food?  do you have an 
 email or phone number?  never heard of this before.  
  
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
how true about the ferals.  my Shorty was so sweet once he decided that i was 
okay.  he became the biggest lap baby ever.  it took a ew scratches when i 
forgot to do things his was, but when he did decide to adopt me, he more than 
made up for it.  Bob, my newest boy was maybe a dump cat since he was very 
loveable when broght into my vetomeone did dump him, it is their loss and my 
gain because he is the sweetest boy ever.  dorlis
 Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: 
 Those who love and care for feral cats have a very difficult calling,  
 one that causes great pain when a feral leaves for any reason.   
 However, when a feral cares about you, it is the most rewarding  
 experience because that caring can not be forced nor is it bred into  
 the cat.  Bless you and your friends for caring about these wonderful  
 animals.  You did the right thing.  The fear and anger would have made  
 Bashful's time unbearable for her.
 On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:17 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  so sorry about Bashful.  if only there was a way we could get thru  
  to them that we are there to help them, we could do so much more for  
  them.  i know lymphoma first hand, had it myself and you are right,  
  that is an awful lot to put anyone thru.  even then, it doesn't  
  always work.  my oncologist told me that all 3 chemos i had did  
  nothing.  i simply went into spontaneous remission 1 year after  
  treatments were stopped.  i know prayer had a lot to do with it.   
  that and because God had something else in mind for me.  dorlis
   Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:
  I haven't posted much lately, sadly have had quite a few rescue  
  losses in
  the last months as well as rescue emergencies which has me so  
  behind on
  all fronts
 
  However, one of our dear, fairly elderly university campus ferals,  
  Bashful,
  will be crossing this afternoon and I wanted to share her story so  
  that many
  thoughts will be with her.
 
  Bashful's caregiver has been taking care of her for at least 10  
  years, she
  disappeared a couple of weeks ago which was attributed to roofers  
  at the
  Library where she has lived for so many years.   When she showed  
  back up she
  was clearly in dire need of help.   Elaine her caregiver called me  
  for help
  trapping, 2 friends and I set out without much success the first two
  days--it was heartbreaking, she was half under the drop trap the  
  first night
  but just a bit of food made her choke  cough so horribly, we had  
  tears in
  our eyes just hearing  watching.  Her neck was very, very swollen  
  impairing
  her ability to eat and walk.
 
  We got her 2 nights later, began b/w, examcytology via needle  
  aspirate
  confirmed a high grade, aggressive lymphoma.
 
  We discussed the possibility of chemo but Bashful is very feral and  
  already
  unhappy even being at the vet, it was clear this was not going to  
  be a way
  to give her quality time and that she was already in a very bad  
  state.
 
  One of my good campus friends who came to the call to help drop  
  trap is
  leaving now to be with Bashful for her final moments.   Bashful was  
  not
  FELV+ (likely was FIV+), but I know many here can sympathize with the
  dreadful diagnosis of lymphoma.
 
  We treat feral cats for illnesses as much as we possibly can, I've  
  actually
  got 14 campus feral kitty Bobbye on my porch now for that reason  
  (CRF, FIV+,
  along with Toxoplasmosis  possible eye tumor which has not
  progressed--she's done well other than not liking the fluids of
  course)but it just didn't seem there were any way we could put  
  Bashful
  through chemo, weekly vet visits, and possibly never feeling good  
  enough for
  the time to have been of quality for her.   She is very stressed at  
  my vet
  and we hope things go as peacefully as possible this afternoon.
 
  Go with love, sweet Bashful, and know how badly we wanted to help  
  you--you
  will not be forgotten.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
Grrr sounds so much like my Snuggles.  is beautiful to look at, loves to be 
petted (for a while at least, not too much) but don't try to brush me or give 
me pills.  i will slash you to bits, bite and swat you with my tail.  don't 
know if it has anything to do with it, he was a Maine Coon.  he looked like it 
so took to a breeder and she confirmed it.  mostly, as long as things went his 
way, he was happy.  sometimes a pain to deal with, but i would not have missed 
my days with him for anything.  he is the one who took care of my father.  the 
day father became ill, Snuggles went into his room and would not leave.  if he 
called me in the middle of the night, Snug would come and get me, then jump on 
father's bed.  he stayed with him for a year and the day father passed, he left 
his room and never went back there.  he passed away 1 week after father.  dorlis
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've written 
 so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is going on 
 with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I took him in 
 monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time doing normal 
 cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and it was getting 
 progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my vet on Sunday 
 about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not displaying any 
 very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress or pain, we 
 decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday morning.  He 
 had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness was a symptom 
 of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests that led to 
 the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the weakness  
 instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by lymphosarcoma, and I 
 believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms were simply a 
 progression from what had been going on all weekend, exacerbated by the 
 stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't travel well either.  
 Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome  growl.  The cortisol 
 shot was administered as an effort at pain management, to see if it helped 
 him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's looking OK- a bit better 
 than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.   We have a very long 
 term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him- obviously, mistakes can 
 be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment Grrr has been given and the 
 plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as has been suggested, throwing 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
if exposing dry to the air caused a loss of vitamin D, what about adding fish 
oil to the food to counter the loss of D and then add a vitamin supplement for 
the selenium.  dorlis
 Rosenfeldt wrote: 
 Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
 should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
 air?  Wacky!
 
 Diane R. 
 
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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
 mouth
 and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
 myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
 The
 vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
 assumed
 nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
 container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
 depleted
 the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
 it's
 worth
 Laurie
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
 To: Felv talk
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
 written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
 was/is
 going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
 I
 took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
 time
 doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
 and
 it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
 with my
 vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
 not
 displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
 distress
 or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
 Monday
 morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
 weakness
 was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
 tests
 that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
 weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
 lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
 symptoms
 were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
 exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
 doesn't
 travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
 handsome 
 growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
 management,
 to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
 looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
 home.
 We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
 him-
 obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
 Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
 am, as
 has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
 bit
 awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
bird droppings could cause that?  that scares me as i feed the wild birds on my 
deck and that is where my babies love to lie in the sun and snooze.  may have 
to change where i feed the birds and clean deck up with Clorox.  dorlis
 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: 
 Yes. They told me that moisture or oxygen will deplete dry food of those
 vitamins. Another person took their cat in when I took Coco (we went over to
 Ames teaching school). Her cat could not walk at all and did not survive.
 It's a rare condition and can also be caused by toxins or the disease passed
 via bird droppings (I forget the name right now...toxoplasmosis, maybe).
 Anyway, it was frightening and I am so grateful to have my kitty. They had
 to take biopsies of her muscles and send them to Texas to be analyzed.
 Laurie
 
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 Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
 should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
 air?  Wacky!
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:38 PM
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 Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
 mouth
 and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
 myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
 The
 vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
 assumed
 nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
 container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
 depleted
 the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
 it's
 worth
 Laurie
 
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
 Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
 To: Felv talk
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
 written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
 was/is
 going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
 I
 took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
 time
 doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
 and
 it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
 with my
 vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
 not
 displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
 distress
 or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
 Monday
 morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
 weakness
 was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
 tests
 that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
 weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
 lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
 symptoms
 were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
 exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
 doesn't
 travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
 handsome 
 growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
 management,
 to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
 looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
 home.
 We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
 him-
 obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
 Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
 am, as
 has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
 bit
 awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cortisol for Grrr... correction

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
join the group.  been guilty of that a few times myself.  dorlis
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Never mind, I'm apparently an idiot who cannot read or write.  Grrr was given 
 vetalog.  Must work on having my facts straight before typing.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flanagan Please add to the CLS

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
count on it.  God knows where these babies will find love and sends them out 
way.  even when another shows up, you will still miss Mickey and cry for your 
loss of him.  that is normal, for our love for them never really dies, just 
goes dormant from time to time.  then something pops up to remind us of them 
and we cry.  dorlis
 Viky Digangi vdiga...@dss.state.la.us wrote: 
 Sherry,
 
 I feel for you.  It has been a week since I had to have my Mickey put down 
 and I can't stop crying.  He loved to be outside and the weather is finally 
 turning warmer and all I can think about is how much he would have enjoyed 
 being out in the warm sun.  I know it takes time to get over the loss of our 
 babies but it is so hard.  I see his little face everywhere.  Maybe God will 
 send me another baby who needs me. 
 
 
 Viky Digangi
 Support Enforcement Officer II
 Monroe Regional Office
 318-362-5280 ext 297
 Fax 318-362-3363
 
 
 
  Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com 03/04/09 7:46 PM 
 Well we sadly lost another one of our Sids kids.Flanagan was quite the spunky 
 boy.He was an orange tiger that LOVED to wash windows! He has had his ups and 
 downs in the passed six months.And just recently got a bunch of his feisty 
 silliness back,even just this Monday he helped me do the special feedings and 
 kept me company.He passed away during the night last night and I feel for the 
 volunteers that went in and found him this morning.I would have been 
 devastated.We knew his time was getting shorter but he just made a major 
 comeback.Maybe he was just giving us a last glimpse of the Flanny we have ALL 
 came to love.We love you baby boy.
 Sherry
 
 
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 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt

As sort of a parenthetical to this discussion, which I confess I've only
read a little of, recently my housemate decided to try putting our Luc's
thyroid pills (which we've been shoving down his throat for years) into a
pinch of catnip in the palm of her hand.  I never thought this would work,
but he's been doing this for about a month now.  Even if he snarfs up all
the nip, he'll still take one extra snarf to get the pill in.  Goofy boy, I
love him dearly.

Diane R. 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Amy Ackerman
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Grrr sounds so much like my Snuggles.  is beautiful to look at, loves to be
petted (for a while at least, not too much) but don't try to brush me or
give me pills.  i will slash you to bits, bite and swat you with my tail.
don't know if it has anything to do with it, he was a Maine Coon.  he looked
like it so took to a breeder and she confirmed it.  mostly, as long as
things went his way, he was happy.  sometimes a pain to deal with, but i
would not have missed my days with him for anything.  he is the one who took
care of my father.  the day father became ill, Snuggles went into his room
and would not leave.  if he called me in the middle of the night, Snug would
come and get me, then jump on father's bed.  he stayed with him for a year
and the day father passed, he left his room and never went back there.  he
passed away 1 week after father.  dorlis
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-24 Thread Chris
Catnip--not bad!  Haven't tried that one.  Whenever I think I've found
something that works though (and feel very proud of myself for finding the
perfect pill pusher-downer), they always manage to show me who is the real
boss by suddenly deciding that they know I'm putting a pill in and stop
taking whatever it was that worked.  I've used American cheese (makes a nice
little ball), liverwurst (ditto), ham (a little harder to roll up), pill
pockets (works for a while), wet food (in a ball), two treats squished
together like a sandwich with a pill in the middle, and on and on.  Of
course, groveling and begging and pleading sometimes works though I think
they finally take the pill just to shut me up.  And then of course, there
are all those pills I've found over the years, just lying around without a
mark on them.  I KNOW they're not the pills I was so proud of myself
about--I KNOW they sneak to the pill vial at night to take out some pills to
scatter around just to make me crazy! LOL

Christiane Biagi
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list


As sort of a parenthetical to this discussion, which I confess I've only
read a little of, recently my housemate decided to try putting our Luc's
thyroid pills (which we've been shoving down his throat for years) into a
pinch of catnip in the palm of her hand.  I never thought this would work,
but he's been doing this for about a month now.  Even if he snarfs up all
the nip, he'll still take one extra snarf to get the pill in.  Goofy boy, I
love him dearly.

Diane R. 

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Amy Ackerman
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

Grrr sounds so much like my Snuggles.  is beautiful to look at, loves to be
petted (for a while at least, not too much) but don't try to brush me or
give me pills.  i will slash you to bits, bite and swat you with my tail.
don't know if it has anything to do with it, he was a Maine Coon.  he looked
like it so took to a breeder and she confirmed it.  mostly, as long as
things went his way, he was happy.  sometimes a pain to deal with, but i
would not have missed my days with him for anything.  he is the one who took
care of my father.  the day father became ill, Snuggles went into his room
and would not leave.  if he called me in the middle of the night, Snug would
come and get me, then jump on father's bed.  he stayed with him for a year
and the day father passed, he left his room and never went back there.  he
passed away 1 week after father.  dorlis
 Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!  I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday, and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
 _

Re: [Felvtalk] Mikey Please add to the CLS :(

2009-03-24 Thread dlgegg
i don't know if i could stand working in a shelter.  i would want to take all 
of them home with me.  need to win the lottery for that.  i am at my limit now 
of 5 babies.  any more and i would have to seriously re orgainze my finances.  
fixed incomes are a bummer.  i don't know how you do it but more power to you 
and God be with you.  dorlis
 Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Well we lost Mikey one of our Katrina kitties.This orange boy was a different 
 kind of kitty.When he first came to us he was a a skittish scaredy cat(could 
 you blame him?)All that he had to go through to get to us.We had a LOVE-Hate 
 realationship,really love but you know how it goes. :) Well last night while 
 doing the feedings at Sids I noticed he was not acting like his normal pain 
 in the butt self.So we let Jen know and today she had to let him go cause he 
 was just in a bad way.I did tell him that I loved him last night and kissed 
 him on his head before I went home. We will miss you Mikey
 Sherry
 
 
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