Re: [Felvtalk] Intro
The odd thing is I didn't do anything special because I had no idea what this diagnosis meant at that time! I even had them vaccinated for feline leukemia every year (makes me wonder about the vet!). Stripes was treated with antibiotics every time he got sick. He nearly died from an injection the vet gave him once (he couldn't walk after) but he rallied. Mostly I loved them and provided a mostly stress free environment. I fed them Natural Choice and later Science Diet CD to Squeaky. They even ate Meow Mix and canned Friskies before I knew NOT to feed MM. The vet thought Squeaky was a "carrier" and carried the virus in his bone marrow. When I considered a companion for Squeaky after Stripes died, the vet never told me of any risk for a new kitty Not sure if this is any help at all other than to say that some kitties do well no matter what we do! Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro >My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick >on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on >earth. >Laurie Laurie, With that wonderful statement, can you tell me how you cared for them - both the sick one and the well one? I would like to do exactly what you did. Thanks! Trissa in Philly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro
>My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick >on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on >earth. >Laurie Laurie, With that wonderful statement, can you tell me how you cared for them - both the sick one and the well one? I would like to do exactly what you did. Thanks! Trissa in Philly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro
Welcome Nortina, You have already received some good advise. There is a mix of positive and negative cats in my home. My positives are relatively young with the oldest two approx 1 1/2 yrs old. Like McFluffins, love the name, they are rescues. My negative kitties have been vaccinated. I did not mix them until the negatives received their follow up 30 day booster. Could you keep McFluffins in a separate bedroom until Jasper gets his booster? Thanks for giving McFluffins a 2nd chance. Sharyl --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Nortina Bell wrote: > From: Nortina Bell > Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro > To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 10:13 AM > Hello, > > I have been a member of this list for a few days now since > I found out that our new kitty tested postive for feline > leukemia. > > We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years > old. The animal shelter was unsure of his age when I got > him, so we aren't quite sure now either. Jasper, as a rule, > really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all > who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house > in mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, > who gets out every now and then even though we try not to > let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I saw > them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. > This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so > loving anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we > realized we might actually be able to have another cat in > the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with > very bad results). > > We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him > McFluffins) in the bathroom overnight while waiting for his > first vet appointment to see if he would even use a litter > box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had an > issue with worms. > > While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. > This is when we found that he tested positive for feline > leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day didn't really try > to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit > that I thought about having him put down. I was not really > willing to though because I have already found that he is a > very loving and wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at > the moment. After asking some questions about how it can > progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we > would keep him. > > We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the > vet that we spoke to that day was firm that there will be > issues with the stray that we took in, it is just a matter > of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful > than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the > same. > > Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper > was behind on his vaccinations and was never vaccinated > again feline leuk. I was told that, based on Jasper's age, > he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth > giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart > until his second booster shot in a month after this one. > Does anyone else have an experience like this? Is it really > necessary to keep them seperated? > > I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a > little lost since I am not very knowledgable on the subject, > so hopefully I will catch up soon. > > Nortina > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] good vet in LA area?
Anyone know one..esp for cancer? Thanks L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro
I can't tell you much about the seperation part as I only have the one cat, and have never had one before this one. I just want to put in my 2 cents for the idea that FeLv+ cats can live very happy lives. I have one that I've had for 2 years. he may get sick tomorrow, and he has been sick with a few things over the last 2 years but he's a happy kitty that wouldn't be here if I hadn't taken him in or had put him down when the first vet told me to. Sidney and the General ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572846x1201387511/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc =668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Aprilfooter427NO62) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] url for Imulan/LTCI information
This is the url for the additional information I found on LTCI.? Some is over my head, but the overview of how it works and info on clinical studies?is pretty straightforward.?? www.imulantrials.com/uploads/Vol6Iss2Gingerich61-68.pdf?? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This is a great group, glad you're here. It is unlikely that a healthy adult cat will pick up FELV through casual contact, in my own opinion. However, since this is a new cat, might as well go ahead and separate - it's a polite way to introduce them. But I know several people who mix their FELV with the non-FELV, have had them rechecked, and no transmission. I have mixed mine at times and had no problems. When I first acquired an FELV cat I was indeed paranoid, but after a while, and with a great group iike this, I learned more about it and became less paranoid. I do give interferon alpha to the FELV kitties if they're under 3-4 years old. I have 2 felv kitties that are 12-14 years old - need to retest, just hate to stress them out. :) Gloria On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Laurieskatz wrote: I would keep them separated for the 30 days. I am very cautious. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Nortina Bell Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:13 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro Hello, I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with very bad results). We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had an issue with worms. While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would keep him. We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. Nortina ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks, Karen.
Judy, Here is another site with more information on the immune system and Transfer Factor. If you decide to try it you can order it wholesale with the ID number I gave you and the toll free number. I like to talk to a real person when I order something, so I use the toll fee number. 888-454-3374 ID# 6109801 The link to a site I have is http://powerbod.com/2/karengriffith It has a lot of info. Hope this helps. Karen 740-992-5782 Feel free to call me if you have any questions. - Original Message - From: "Judy Eaton" To: "Feline leukemia" Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:47 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Thanks, Karen. Karen, Your email is so appreciated, and I think that you are right about the cardiac/ pleural effusion. I was going to listen to him as soon as I got back from a run, but he's hidden where I can't reach him, until the next feeding time. I will go to the site you recommended on the Transfer Facton, and I will do the chicken liver thing when I can get to town. None available out here . I haven't started clysis, due to the fact that I don't have the solutions or the needles. I did get Pedialyte and used that to dilute the cat food slurry as of yesterday. He seems well hydrated, not jaundiced and really LOOKS good. It's surprising, and heartening. But I am still on the verge of tears all the time. I have written an email to my vet, and will have her see Wilson on her mobile rounds Wednesday, at least, maybe sooner. As I told the vet, if Wilson were a patient of mine I would at least have O2 on him and get a chest xray. Judy and Wilson ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...
Laurie, Just give me a call at 740-992-5782. Karen - Original Message - From: "Laurieskatz" To: Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Karen, I have Feline Transfer Factor in powder form. Should I be used the Transfer Factor Nano Plus instead? She is not FeLV+ but is not a good eater. Thanks, Laurie (ps I can call if you would rather...) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen Griffith Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Judy, I just noticed that your kitty is having breathing problems. That worried me. In all of my treatments for FeLV, I use Transfer Factor Plus in addition to other supportive treatments depending upon the symptoms .You can do what you want, but the only reason that I paid the money and became a distributor was so that I could order it at wholesale. I was using it on multiple species and with the amount that I was using it just made sense to pay the money to become a distributor to get it wholesale. (By the way, I and my 84 yr old cancer surviving mother who mows 2 acres of grass with a push mower and rakes it by hand both take it.) I have seen great improvement in surrounding cardiac fluid decrease, liver and kidney malady fluid problems remedied with the treatment of TF (all of which can cause breathing difficulties and fluid build-up around the lungs and heart). I can't go into the trials I have done tonight because I have 2 mares ready to foal. I would suggest your kitty to take one Transfer Plus Nano Factor/day. Hopefully it will decrease the fluid about the lung and heart. My ID number is 6109801 and the company's toll free number is 888-454-3374 . I would also suggest that you buy some fresh chicken livers and slow cook them on a low heat until the outsides appear cookedleave the centers a bit pink. Use the water from the cooking as drinking water for your cat and feed the livers as best you can. (Whole, chopped, mashed.) Maybe need to mash them, cut them up, etc. Whatever, put all water and livers in a closed container for further feeding, to decrease O2 from mixing. The boiled water will have better hydrating effects, as we used to call it'Heavy Water"...Will have increased hydration plus increased iron content. Put this for drinking water separately or over anything the cat will eat to help the anemia and fluid replenishment. Feed the liver as best you can, (In addition to the Nutrical) and as needed sub/cut Lactated Ringers (previous email). If your kitty resumes appetite, I am a big fan of a raw diet (I can send recipes if that occurs), as this is what nature gave the feline for the best immune support. Keep in mindeven the Wal-mart diet food, if that is what your cat wants to eat is great. Food in any form is good! What ever the cat will eat is great. Don't worry about this diet or that. (And that is from an Animal Nutritionist.) Just get the cat to eat something it will eat. Good luck, and good eating to your feline friend. Karen Griffith 740-992-5782 P.S. Here is a non-company, non-distributor site to read a few abstracts of research papers (human), but will give you an idea of Transfer Factors' effectiveness. (Click on all of the links from overseas.) As a nurse you will appreciate the results. http://www.transferfactorresearch.com/research1.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro
My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on earth. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sue & Frank Koren Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Nortina Bell Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro Nortina, First of all welcome to the group. There are people here with a great deal of knowledge about this horrible disease. I have seven cats, two are positive for feline leukemia. The negative cats are all vaccinated. My oldest positve, Orlando, is 11 years old and the youngest, Tweezer, will be three. Both are asymptomatic. I lost a positive about 6 months ago to anemia. He was almost two. Buzzy was able to live a few months longer then he would have because of the advise of people on this list. I hope you will find it to be as helpful as I have. FeLV+ can go a long time without symptoms and some live very long lives. In the FeLV/FIV room where I volunteer there is one cat who is 22! Good luck with your positive kitty and thank you for giving him a chance. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro
I would keep them separated for the 30 days. I am very cautious. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Nortina Bell Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:13 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro Hello, I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with very bad results). We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had an issue with worms. While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would keep him. We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. Nortina ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fleas and Ticks
I, too, live in SC, and have found that Revolution works wonders on my cats for keeping things under control... Unfortunately it doesn't kill tapeworms, but it does kill roundworms and hookworms. I am lucky enough to have a vet that will sell me the Droncit without seeing the animals. Beverly -Original Message- From: sheila...@aol.com [mailto:sheila...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Fleas and Ticks I have an outbreak of fleas on my eight felv+ cats brought home by my two dogs who like to run away every chance they get. I need to worm all my kitties .Can someone recommend worm med's that I can buy without a prescription. I can't afford to take all of them to a vet at one time. I also have to buy flea med's I'm thinking Frontline. I've never had much of a problem with parasites until this spring. Please help. Sheila in SC ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Intro
Nortina, First of all welcome to the group. There are people here with a great deal of knowledge about this horrible disease. I have seven cats, two are positive for feline leukemia. The negative cats are all vaccinated. My oldest positve, Orlando, is 11 years old and the youngest, Tweezer, will be three. Both are asymptomatic. I lost a positive about 6 months ago to anemia. He was almost two. Buzzy was able to live a few months longer then he would have because of the advise of people on this list. I hope you will find it to be as helpful as I have. FeLV+ can go a long time without symptoms and some live very long lives. In the FeLV/FIV room where I volunteer there is one cat who is 22! Good luck with your positive kitty and thank you for giving him a chance. Sue Nortina Bell wrote: > Hello, > > I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that > our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. > > We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal > shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now > either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he > shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in > mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now > and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this > other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. > This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway > that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able > to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous > with very bad results). > > We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the > bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he > would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we > had an issue with worms. > > While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we > found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to > that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have > to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing > to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful > cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about > how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would > keep him. > > We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke > to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took > in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less > hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. > > Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his > vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, > based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be > worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his > second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an > experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? > > I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am > not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. > > Nortina > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Intro
Hello, I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with very bad results). We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had an issue with worms. While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would keep him. We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. Nortina ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org