Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Michael, have you heard about this pro or con? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:38:37 AM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:56:28 AM GMT-0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
She's lucky - it's hard to find someone who will do it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Roseann Fitzgerald Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:36 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:56:28 AM GMT-0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Did her doctor try doxycycline? My friend had it and nearly died. Her doctor gave her this antibitotic. I sure hope she gets well! I will pray for her. Lynda - Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:56:28 AM GMT-0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
I think that hydrogen peroxide is a better bet - it's amazing stuff! I have a whole book on it - if anyone would like a copy, I can send it to them as an attachment; it has to be privately because it's too large for this group to accept. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Did her doctor try doxycycline? My friend had it and nearly died. Her doctor gave her this antibitotic. I sure hope she gets well! I will pray for her. Lynda - Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:56:28 AM GMT-0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
I will call her. Thank you. -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:23:59 AM GMT-0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Did her doctor try doxycycline? My friend had it and nearly died. Her doctor gave her this antibitotic. I sure hope she gets well! I will pray for her. Lynda - Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:56:28 AM GMT-0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Coconut oil
I wonder if this could be applicable to FeLV In the late '90s and early 2000s, Dr. Veech discovered how ketones might counteract breakdowns in energy production in both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's patients. In 2001, he published his results in the journal of the International Union of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, IUBMB Life. As it happens, coconut oil is one of the world's best (and few) sources of MCTs. In fact, 65% of coconut oil is made up of MCTs. Coconut oil is also an amazing source of ketone bodies, because those are produced through metabolism of MCTs -- and they may be a critical weapon against a host of crippling conditions such as . . . . Parkinson's disease . ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) . Huntington's disease . Drug resistant epilepsy . Diabetes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil
Very interesting. I would be nice though to know the dosage required for results... - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:38 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil I wonder if this could be applicable to FeLV In the late '90s and early 2000s, Dr. Veech discovered how ketones might counteract breakdowns in energy production in both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's patients. In 2001, he published his results in the journal of the International Union of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, IUBMB Life. As it happens, coconut oil is one of the world's best (and few) sources of MCTs. In fact, 65% of coconut oil is made up of MCTs. Coconut oil is also an amazing source of ketone bodies, because those are produced through metabolism of MCTs -- and they may be a critical weapon against a host of crippling conditions such as . . . . Parkinson's disease . ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) . Huntington's disease . Drug resistant epilepsy . Diabetes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens
My rescue group has two 8 week old FeLV positive kittens that need a place to go. I'm in the Atlanta area but I don't think there are any FeLV sanctuaries nearby or even in the whole state. The lady who has been fostering them is willing to drive almost anywhere. She has family in PA and goes up there several times a year so driving a distance isn't a problem for her. Plus we have other people who can drive them to various other states. The kittens will be fully vetted and spayed or neutered. My rescue is a very small group. We don't have a shelter facility, we just have foster homes. We don't have a long term place for the kittens. Can anyone help or offer suggestions? We've only had one ELISA test done on the kittens but the mother cat had two positive ELISA tests and we're waiting on the IFA results for her. Because of that I'm thinking the kittens who tested positive are really positive. Think we should do an IFA test on them? I feel certain that they are truly positive but who knows. Also two of their littermates have tested negative on their first ELISA. How long should we wait before re-testing? Do you guys think those kittens could really be negative or is it more likely that it just isn't showing up yet for some reason? I know I've heard some of you say that you had a positive and a negative kitten that were littermates that came from a positive mother cat. But does that happen very often? Please let me know if anyone can put me in touch with a sanctuary for the kittens. We might need one for the mother but for now I'll just worry about the kittens. Oh, we do have someone who is taking the two negative kittens and will hold them until they can be re-tested. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil
Yes, whoever claimed that it helps, may have a very valid point because coconut oil is supposed to boost the immune systemmaybe one has to extrapolate the dosage down from a cat's weight -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil Very interesting. I would be nice though to know the dosage required for results... - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:38 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil I wonder if this could be applicable to FeLV In the late '90s and early 2000s, Dr. Veech discovered how ketones might counteract breakdowns in energy production in both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's patients. In 2001, he published his results in the journal of the International Union of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, IUBMB Life. As it happens, coconut oil is one of the world's best (and few) sources of MCTs. In fact, 65% of coconut oil is made up of MCTs. Coconut oil is also an amazing source of ketone bodies, because those are produced through metabolism of MCTs -- and they may be a critical weapon against a host of crippling conditions such as . . . . Parkinson's disease . ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) . Huntington's disease . Drug resistant epilepsy . Diabetes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
I live in Arkansas. I know there are some quacks out there, but I always appreciate the folks who study and offer alternative treatments, as our environment in the USA isn't very supportive of that. Wish there was more research into this area. I've used a number of alternative treatments, and have witnessed folks I know who've gotten cancer, looking at something to help. I sure hope your friend finds a way. It's been a long time since I've looked into this, but ozone is also used for similar purposes as H2O2. Gloria - Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
I have been a member and have recently become manager of a group for alternative cancer treatment with a herbal tonic that you make yourself and a black salve; many members from all over the world are also treating their animals with both (cats, dogs, rabbits, horses). The tonic contains Graviola, Neem, Chaparral, and Andrographis. I have not used the tonic on any FIV/FeLV cats, but have been tempted to because it also helps with other conditions and boosts the immune system. Natalie P.S. The FDA has been alerted to the fact that many people purchase the food grade hydrogen peroxide (it is used mostly by the food industry), and are already planning on banning the sale to the publicnice, eh? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I live in Arkansas. I know there are some quacks out there, but I always appreciate the folks who study and offer alternative treatments, as our environment in the USA isn't very supportive of that. Wish there was more research into this area. I've used a number of alternative treatments, and have witnessed folks I know who've gotten cancer, looking at something to help. I sure hope your friend finds a way. It's been a long time since I've looked into this, but ozone is also used for similar purposes as H2O2. Gloria - Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens
Please contact me in reference to these 2 Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens My rescue group has two 8 week old FeLV positive kittens that need a place to go. I'm in the Atlanta area but I don't think there are any FeLV sanctuaries nearby or even in the whole state. The lady who has been fostering them is willing to drive almost anywhere. She has family in PA and goes up there several times a year so driving a distance isn't a problem for her. Plus we have other people who can drive them to various other states. The kittens will be fully vetted and spayed or neutered. My rescue is a very small group. We don't have a shelter facility, we just have foster homes. We don't have a long term place for the kittens. Can anyone help or offer suggestions? We've only had one ELISA test done on the kittens but the mother cat had two positive ELISA tests and we're waiting on the IFA results for her. Because of that I'm thinking the kittens who tested positive are really positive. Think we should do an IFA test on them? I feel certain that they are truly positive but who knows. Also two of their littermates have tested negative on their first ELISA. How long should we wait before re-testing? Do you guys think those kittens could really be negative or is it more likely that it just isn't showing up yet for some reason? I know I've heard some of you say that you had a positive and a negative kitten that were littermates that came from a positive mother cat. But does that happen very often? Please let me know if anyone can put me in touch with a sanctuary for the kittens. We might need one for the mother but for now I'll just worry about the kittens. Oh, we do have someone who is taking the two negative kittens and will hold them until they can be re-tested. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Hydrogen peroxide. ozone, etc for FeLV/FIV.
http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Feline+Leukemia+-+hydrogen+pe roxide+therapy - many good things listed, and although they keep mentioning FeLV, I have yet to see any instructions on how much and how to use it. I have NOT read all of this yet, just scanned quickly - but I have read others and have NOT seen any instructions.. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens
Unfortunately, if the mother is FeLV positive, the kittens are too! I have yet to hear or read otherwise. With FIV, that is not the case, fortunately. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance Meows Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens Please contact me in reference to these 2 Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens My rescue group has two 8 week old FeLV positive kittens that need a place to go. I'm in the Atlanta area but I don't think there are any FeLV sanctuaries nearby or even in the whole state. The lady who has been fostering them is willing to drive almost anywhere. She has family in PA and goes up there several times a year so driving a distance isn't a problem for her. Plus we have other people who can drive them to various other states. The kittens will be fully vetted and spayed or neutered. My rescue is a very small group. We don't have a shelter facility, we just have foster homes. We don't have a long term place for the kittens. Can anyone help or offer suggestions? We've only had one ELISA test done on the kittens but the mother cat had two positive ELISA tests and we're waiting on the IFA results for her. Because of that I'm thinking the kittens who tested positive are really positive. Think we should do an IFA test on them? I feel certain that they are truly positive but who knows. Also two of their littermates have tested negative on their first ELISA. How long should we wait before re-testing? Do you guys think those kittens could really be negative or is it more likely that it just isn't showing up yet for some reason? I know I've heard some of you say that you had a positive and a negative kitten that were littermates that came from a positive mother cat. But does that happen very often? Please let me know if anyone can put me in touch with a sanctuary for the kittens. We might need one for the mother but for now I'll just worry about the kittens. Oh, we do have someone who is taking the two negative kittens and will hold them until they can be re-tested. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
First off THERE IS NO CURE for FeLV. I have heard of all kinds of things that are supposed to give great extensions of life to cats with FeLV, but have yet to see any kind of results. After 8 years of specializing in nothing but Fe-Luk cats i have found that, love, attention, basic supplements ( iron,L-lysine, and the like) are the best treatments for them. Adding things like high O2 water helps as well.( moving water not in a bowl). I know that many are going to say things like interferon, transfusions and like are good for them but they only prolong the inevitable. This virus will at some point in the cats life cause issues that will have grave consequences. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, have you heard about this pro or con? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:38:37 AM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet and very cute! Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens
Got the results of the IFA on the mother. She is negative. I told them we have to re-test again in a month or two because we have to have two tests that agree. Since the second ELISA is showing positive but the IFA is negative I told them we need to give her a little longer before making a conclusive determination. I hoping her immune system will extinguish the virus. Someone on here once said they had a positive mama cat with a negative kitten and a positive kitten. The positive kitten died young of course but the negative kitten and the positive mama cat were still around and healthy. I would think that would be the exception rather than the rule. But, two of this mama cat's four kittens have tested negative on their first ELISA so I'm hoping the next ELISA will show the same thing and they'll be part of the small minority that didn't get it from the mother cat. Yeah, I know about FIV and thank the Lord it is a little less scary than FeLV. I have an FIV positive male in my house so I learned all about it too. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:24:28 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens Unfortunately, if the mother is FeLV positive, the kittens are too! I have yet to hear or read otherwise. With FIV, that is not the case, fortunately. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance Meows Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens Please contact me in reference to these 2 Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens My rescue group has two 8 week old FeLV positive kittens that need a place to go. I'm in the Atlanta area but I don't think there are any FeLV sanctuaries nearby or even in the whole state. The lady who has been fostering them is willing to drive almost anywhere. She has family in PA and goes up there several times a year so driving a distance isn't a problem for her. Plus we have other people who can drive them to various other states. The kittens will be fully vetted and spayed or neutered. My rescue is a very small group. We don't have a shelter facility, we just have foster homes. We don't have a long term place for the kittens. Can anyone help or offer suggestions? We've only had one ELISA test done on the kittens but the mother cat had two positive ELISA tests and we're waiting on the IFA results for her. Because of that I'm thinking the kittens who tested positive are really positive. Think we should do an IFA test on them? I feel certain that they are truly positive but who knows. Also two of their littermates have tested negative on their first ELISA. How long should we wait before re-testing? Do you guys think those kittens could really be negative or is it more likely that it just isn't showing up yet for some reason? I know I've heard some of you say that you had a positive and a negative kitten that were littermates that came from a positive mother cat. But does that happen very often? Please let me know if anyone can put me in touch with a sanctuary for the kittens. We might need one for the mother but for now I'll just worry about the kittens. Oh, we do have someone who is taking the two negative kittens and will hold them until they can be re-tested. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens
Maureen, I am s happy for you. I will hope as well that her immune system extinguishes the virus, quickly! Keep us posted. I do the second test on my adult cat that was exposed (as you know) in 10 more daysyes, I'm counting!! Good luck to you and all of your kitties. It's such a blessing to have animals in life :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens Got the results of the IFA on the mother. She is negative. I told them we have to re-test again in a month or two because we have to have two tests that agree. Since the second ELISA is showing positive but the IFA is negative I told them we need to give her a little longer before making a conclusive determination. I hoping her immune system will extinguish the virus. Someone on here once said they had a positive mama cat with a negative kitten and a positive kitten. The positive kitten died young of course but the negative kitten and the positive mama cat were still around and healthy. I would think that would be the exception rather than the rule. But, two of this mama cat's four kittens have tested negative on their first ELISA so I'm hoping the next ELISA will show the same thing and they'll be part of the small minority that didn't get it from the mother cat. Yeah, I know about FIV and thank the Lord it is a little less scary than FeLV. I have an FIV positive male in my house so I learned all about it too. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:24:28 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens Unfortunately, if the mother is FeLV positive, the kittens are too! I have yet to hear or read otherwise. With FIV, that is not the case, fortunately. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance Meows Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens Please contact me in reference to these 2 Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens My rescue group has two 8 week old FeLV positive kittens that need a place to go. I'm in the Atlanta area but I don't think there are any FeLV sanctuaries nearby or even in the whole state. The lady who has been fostering them is willing to drive almost anywhere. She has family in PA and goes up there several times a year so driving a distance isn't a problem for her. Plus we have other people who can drive them to various other states. The kittens will be fully vetted and spayed or neutered. My rescue is a very small group. We don't have a shelter facility, we just have foster homes. We don't have a long term place for the kittens. Can anyone help or offer suggestions? We've only had one ELISA test done on the kittens but the mother cat had two positive ELISA tests and we're waiting on the IFA results for her. Because of that I'm thinking the kittens who tested positive are really positive. Think we should do an IFA test on them? I feel certain that they are truly positive but who knows. Also two of their littermates have tested negative on their first ELISA. How long should we wait before re-testing? Do you guys think those kittens could really be negative or is it more likely that it just isn't showing up yet for some reason? I know I've heard some of you say that you had a positive and a negative kitten that were littermates that came from a positive mother cat. But does that happen very often? Please let me know if anyone can put me in touch with a sanctuary for the kittens. We might need one for the mother but for now I'll just worry about the kittens. Oh, we do have someone who is taking the two negative kittens and will hold them until they can be re-tested. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens
I found this link: http://felvpositivefelines.org/database.shtml - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:33 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens My rescue group has two 8 week old FeLV positive kittens that need a place to go. I'm in the Atlanta area but I don't think there are any FeLV sanctuaries nearby or even in the whole state. The lady who has been fostering them is willing to drive almost anywhere. She has family in PA and goes up there several times a year so driving a distance isn't a problem for her. Plus we have other people who can drive them to various other states. The kittens will be fully vetted and spayed or neutered. My rescue is a very small group. We don't have a shelter facility, we just have foster homes. We don't have a long term place for the kittens. Can anyone help or offer suggestions? We've only had one ELISA test done on the kittens but the mother cat had two positive ELISA tests and we're waiting on the IFA results for her. Because of that I'm thinking the kittens who tested positive are really positive. Think we should do an IFA test on them? I feel certain that they are truly positive but who knows. Also two of their littermates have tested negative on their first ELISA. How long should we wait before re-testing? Do you guys think those kittens could really be negative or is it more likely that it just isn't showing up yet for some reason? I know I've heard some of you say that you had a positive and a negative kitten that were littermates that came from a positive mother cat. But does that happen very often? Please let me know if anyone can put me in touch with a sanctuary for the kittens. We might need one for the mother but for now I'll just worry about the kittens. Oh, we do have someone who is taking the two negative kittens and will hold them until they can be re-tested. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Unfortunately you are right Michael. Love and attention are the best meds. We need to focus on today with these special babies and make each the best day they can have. Sharyl --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 3:28 PM First off THERE IS NO CURE for FeLV. I have heard of all kinds of things that are supposed to give great extensions of life to cats with FeLV, but have yet to see any kind of results. After 8 years of specializing in nothing but Fe-Luk cats i have found that, love, attention, basic supplements ( iron,L-lysine, and the like) are the best treatments for them. Adding things like high O2 water helps as well.( moving water not in a bowl). I know that many are going to say things like interferon, transfusions and like are good for them but they only prolong the inevitable. This virus will at some point in the cats life cause issues that will have grave consequences. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens
Blind Cat Rescue and Sanctuary in St. Pauls, NC m From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:33:02 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens My rescue group has two 8 week old FeLV positive kittens that need a place to go. I'm in the Atlanta area but I don't think there are any FeLV sanctuaries nearby or even in the whole state. The lady who has been fostering them is willing to drive almost anywhere. She has family in PA and goes up there several times a year so driving a distance isn't a problem for her. Plus we have other people who can drive them to various other states. The kittens will be fully vetted and spayed or neutered. My rescue is a very small group. We don't have a shelter facility, we just have foster homes. We don't have a long term place for the kittens. Can anyone help or offer suggestions? We've only had one ELISA test done on the kittens but the mother cat had two positive ELISA tests and we're waiting on the IFA results for her. Because of that I'm thinking the kittens who tested positive are really positive. Think we should do an IFA test on them? I feel certain that they are truly positive but who knows. Also two of their littermates have tested negative on their first ELISA. How long should we wait before re-testing? Do you guys think those kittens could really be negative or is it more likely that it just isn't showing up yet for some reason? I know I've heard some of you say that you had a positive and a negative kitten that were littermates that came from a positive mother cat. But does that happen very often? Please let me know if anyone can put me in touch with a sanctuary for the kittens. We might need one for the mother but for now I'll just worry about the kittens. Oh, we do have someone who is taking the two negative kittens and will hold them until they can be re-tested. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
THANK YOU for your gentle presence and generous offering of soul and heart food. We hear and feel. Blessed Be. us m From: maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:48:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne You will know when it is time. Listen to her and listen to your heart. Open it and ask her to talk to youshe will. On Apr 26, 2011, at 5:37 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: BreAnne, I am sorry, this time must be hard on you. My only advice is that only you can know when she is ready to go. The signs you have listed, to me sound like she is getting close but you know her now and how she was. If she does not seem to be suffering you can give her time and see if she pulls out of this again. She could very well be grieving, it is so hard to know. I wish it were as easy as asking them, but it isn't. Go with your heart, you will make the right decision. Tanya --- On Mon, 4/25/11, czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 5:35 PM BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look okay. this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing the usual supplements we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving some NutriCal. She has been hanging out under the bathroom sink cabinet in the darkness. Easter Sunday I was able to be home all day and let Scrumptious out (since she is negative). I guess writing this is about getting ready maybe to let her go. The cat she is today in no way resembles her picture of 16 months ago. Stress for her? Her Grieving the loss of Isaac? She was really, really thin about 9 months ago but came back from it naturally. will leave it there. any comments will be appreciated czadna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens
That's FANTASTIC! That means that the kittens will NOT be...they are still developing their immune system and will shed whatever small amount of it shows...just like with FIV moms' kittens! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens Got the results of the IFA on the mother. She is negative. I told them we have to re-test again in a month or two because we have to have two tests that agree. Since the second ELISA is showing positive but the IFA is negative I told them we need to give her a little longer before making a conclusive determination. I hoping her immune system will extinguish the virus. Someone on here once said they had a positive mama cat with a negative kitten and a positive kitten. The positive kitten died young of course but the negative kitten and the positive mama cat were still around and healthy. I would think that would be the exception rather than the rule. But, two of this mama cat's four kittens have tested negative on their first ELISA so I'm hoping the next ELISA will show the same thing and they'll be part of the small minority that didn't get it from the mother cat. Yeah, I know about FIV and thank the Lord it is a little less scary than FeLV. I have an FIV positive male in my house so I learned all about it too. I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:24:28 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens Unfortunately, if the mother is FeLV positive, the kittens are too! I have yet to hear or read otherwise. With FIV, that is not the case, fortunately. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance Meows Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens Please contact me in reference to these 2 Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens My rescue group has two 8 week old FeLV positive kittens that need a place to go. I'm in the Atlanta area but I don't think there are any FeLV sanctuaries nearby or even in the whole state. The lady who has been fostering them is willing to drive almost anywhere. She has family in PA and goes up there several times a year so driving a distance isn't a problem for her. Plus we have other people who can drive them to various other states. The kittens will be fully vetted and spayed or neutered. My rescue is a very small group. We don't have a shelter facility, we just have foster homes. We don't have a long term place for the kittens. Can anyone help or offer suggestions? We've only had one ELISA test done on the kittens but the mother cat had two positive ELISA tests and we're waiting on the IFA results for her. Because of that I'm thinking the kittens who tested positive are really positive. Think we should do an IFA test on them? I feel certain that they are truly positive but who knows. Also two of their littermates have tested negative on their first ELISA. How long should we wait before re-testing? Do you guys think those kittens could really be negative or is it more likely that it just isn't showing up yet for some reason? I know I've heard some of you say that you had a positive and a negative kitten that were littermates that came from a positive mother cat. But does that happen very often? Please let me know if anyone can put me in touch with a sanctuary for the kittens. We might need one for the mother but for now I'll just worry about the kittens. Oh, we do have someone who is taking the two negative kittens and will hold them until they can be re-tested. I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
FYI: hydrogen peroxide should only be ingested as food grade, not the stuff you buy at the drug store or supermarket. I kept reading about the wonders of hp, and I use it to clean everything --it's great. But in all the articles I read extolling it's wonders, none of them mentioned that you need to use food grade if you plan to put it INTO your body. I'm assuming the doc is injecting her with the good stuff. - Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=Y3BxMzc0NQ%3D%3D From: gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:50:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I live in Arkansas. I know there are some quacks out there, but I always appreciate the folks who study and offer alternative treatments, as our environment in the USA isn't very supportive of that. Wish there was more research into this area. I've used a number of alternative treatments, and have witnessed folks I know who've gotten cancer, looking at something to help. I sure hope your friend finds a way. It's been a long time since I've looked into this, but ozone is also used for similar purposes as H2O2. Gloria - Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Definitely - she'd be dead if he didn't! You can search for Food grade hydrogen peroxide - it's dangerous stuff to store...must be in the freezer, unless it's been diluted for ingestion. http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Food+grade+hydrogen+peroxide -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of C PQ Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil FYI: hydrogen peroxide should only be ingested as food grade, not the stuff you buy at the drug store or supermarket. I kept reading about the wonders of hp, and I use it to clean everything --it's great. But in all the articles I read extolling it's wonders, none of them mentioned that you need to use food grade if you plan to put it INTO your body. I'm assuming the doc is injecting her with the good stuff. - Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=Y3BxMzc0NQ%3D%3D From: gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:50:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I live in Arkansas. I know there are some quacks out there, but I always appreciate the folks who study and offer alternative treatments, as our environment in the USA isn't very supportive of that. Wish there was more research into this area. I've used a number of alternative treatments, and have witnessed folks I know who've gotten cancer, looking at something to help. I sure hope your friend finds a way. It's been a long time since I've looked into this, but ozone is also used for similar purposes as H2O2. Gloria - Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Where do people get it? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:05:56 PM GMT-0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Definitely - she'd be dead if he didn't! You can search for Food grade hydrogen peroxide - it's dangerous stuff to store...must be in the freezer, unless it's been diluted for ingestion. http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Food+grade+hydrogen+peroxide -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of C PQ Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil FYI: hydrogen peroxide should only be ingested as food grade, not the stuff you buy at the drug store or supermarket. I kept reading about the wonders of hp, and I use it to clean everything --it's great. But in all the articles I read extolling it's wonders, none of them mentioned that you need to use food grade if you plan to put it INTO your body. I'm assuming the doc is injecting her with the good stuff. - Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=Y3BxMzc0NQ%3D%3D From: gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:50:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I live in Arkansas. I know there are some quacks out there, but I always appreciate the folks who study and offer alternative treatments, as our environment in the USA isn't very supportive of that. Wish there was more research into this area. I've used a number of alternative treatments, and have witnessed folks I know who've gotten cancer, looking at something to help. I sure hope your friend finds a way. It's been a long time since I've looked into this, but ozone is also used for similar purposes as H2O2. Gloria - Original Message - From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil My friend moved to Arkansaw several years ago. She has contracted Rocky Mountain Fever and is very sick. Nothing is helping. She is now seeing a holistic doctor and he is giving her hydrogen peroxide IV's. Rocky Mountain Fever can become cancer. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Michael, Yes Sunny and Weston. I so desperately hope they get a home. I had seen the post from the lady about coconut oil on one of the links to Weston. When I replied to her that I had not heard of such a thing and that there was indeed no cure she told me to look up that man, but there are several so I could not contact him. Tanya --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 3:28 PM First off THERE IS NO CURE for FeLV. I have heard of all kinds of things that are supposed to give great extensions of life to cats with FeLV, but have yet to see any kind of results. After 8 years of specializing in nothing but Fe-Luk cats i have found that, love, attention, basic supplements ( iron,L-lysine, and the like) are the best treatments for them. Adding things like high O2 water helps as well.( moving water not in a bowl). I know that many are going to say things like interferon, transfusions and like are good for them but they only prolong the inevitable. This virus will at some point in the cats life cause issues that will have grave consequences. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, have you heard about this pro or con? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:38:37 AM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the loop before I keep arguing with her about it. Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats
Re: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil
This woman claimed that with approximately 3-4 months of use it would cure a cat, I haven't seen anything that suggests that anywhere. --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 2:15 PM Yes, whoever claimed that it helps, may have a very valid point because coconut oil is supposed to boost the immune systemmaybe one has to extrapolate the dosage down from a cat's weight -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil Very interesting. I would be nice though to know the dosage required for results... - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:38 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Coconut oil I wonder if this could be applicable to FeLV In the late '90s and early 2000s, Dr. Veech discovered how ketones might counteract breakdowns in energy production in both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's patients. In 2001, he published his results in the journal of the International Union of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, IUBMB Life. As it happens, coconut oil is one of the world's best (and few) sources of MCTs. In fact, 65% of coconut oil is made up of MCTs. Coconut oil is also an amazing source of ketone bodies, because those are produced through metabolism of MCTs -- and they may be a critical weapon against a host of crippling conditions such as . . . . Parkinson's disease . ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) . Huntington's disease . Drug resistant epilepsy . Diabetes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Tanya, Contact the lady again and ask how her how to get in contact with him. Lynda - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, Yes Sunny and Weston. I so desperately hope they get a home. I had seen the post from the lady about coconut oil on one of the links to Weston. When I replied to her that I had not heard of such a thing and that there was indeed no cure she told me to look up that man, but there are several so I could not contact him. Tanya --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 3:28 PM First off THERE IS NO CURE for FeLV. I have heard of all kinds of things that are supposed to give great extensions of life to cats with FeLV, but have yet to see any kind of results. After 8 years of specializing in nothing but Fe-Luk cats i have found that, love, attention, basic supplements ( iron,L-lysine, and the like) are the best treatments for them. Adding things like high O2 water helps as well.( moving water not in a bowl). I know that many are going to say things like interferon, transfusions and like are good for them but they only prolong the inevitable. This virus will at some point in the cats life cause issues that will have grave consequences. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, have you heard about this pro or con? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:38:37 AM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV cat parents crowd. I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that are in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about cures. Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save them don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Lynda, I did but have yet to get a reply from her. :( Tanya --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 8:01 PM Tanya, Contact the lady again and ask how her how to get in contact with him. Lynda - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, Yes Sunny and Weston. I so desperately hope they get a home. I had seen the post from the lady about coconut oil on one of the links to Weston. When I replied to her that I had not heard of such a thing and that there was indeed no cure she told me to look up that man, but there are several so I could not contact him. Tanya --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 3:28 PM First off THERE IS NO CURE for FeLV. I have heard of all kinds of things that are supposed to give great extensions of life to cats with FeLV, but have yet to see any kind of results. After 8 years of specializing in nothing but Fe-Luk cats i have found that, love, attention, basic supplements ( iron,L-lysine, and the like) are the best treatments for them. Adding things like high O2 water helps as well.( moving water not in a bowl). I know that many are going to say things like interferon, transfusions and like are good for them but they only prolong the inevitable. This virus will at some point in the cats life cause issues that will have grave consequences. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Roseann Fitzgerald cop...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, have you heard about this pro or con? -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:38:37 AM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated fat. Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find anything on it anywhere. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming that coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me to talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not able to look him up. I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have popped up that it
