Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
No worries, Sally :0) - Original Message - From: "Sally Davis" To: Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Unless I missed a post I was not complaining. Sorry if you took it that way. I have a Masters degree in horticulture. I stated before did not start having a problem with deer until a few years ago. Everything I plant now is deer resistant. I am not giving up my daylily collection, because I have over 500 varieties. I started collecting before the deer changed their geazing pattern. I know they will eat some and I accept that. My cats love to lay amongst the daylilies. It gives the cover from the sun. Thanks for you offer. Sally This is my final post on the subject. Back to lurking folks. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Oh my gosh, that is a heavenly sight. I hope you get pics sometime. I wish I lived close to the woods. I did when I lived in Idaho many years ago and I love nature. I don't get to enjoy it here in Texas as much. I know when we lived in Austin, the deer were starving there cuz there were so many. I'd feed them too. I'ts in my nature to believe they need help too. They are beautiful animals! - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Deer have a certain territory and don't leave it. When you see a group of deer, they're always the same group. There are also some ultrasonic devices available to keep deer away , but we want to see more deer. We feed cracked corn to geese and ducks (we're on a pond with a waterfall); we were sitting on our deck one early summer, and a doe came and stared at us for a long time, so we put out some more corn. She went back into the underbrush at the edge of our property and came back with two fawns! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Wish they'd come in my yard and eat everything! I'm so tired of trimming shrubs and yard work. I used to like it but now I'm too busy with too many other things. My husband hates yard work worse than I do. I love to have a pretty yard but man it's a lot of work. If the deer came and tore it up then I'd have an excuse. Anyway, depending on the size of your property, I wonder if you planted a fruit tree or something they really liked at the far end of the property if they would stay with it and not come near your decorative plants. It might attract more deer though. I thought of it because at work we have some kind of big tree that puts out some kind of fruit (I don't even know what it is) and every year I see deer over there. I thought it was great and even put a salt lick over there. The thing is though that it's always two or three. I never see hoards and hoards of deer. Two or three come and eat and then they're gone. I work a lot of late evenings and I only see them here and there and only two or three at a time so they're not a major problem although there's plenty for them to eat and I would think more deer would come around. Wonder if they're territorial so they won't let other deer come eat their food. Well, just a thought. I know you don't want to attract deer but if they're coming no matter what and you're property is big enough just wondered if giving them something away from where you don't want them to be would help. As well as the wind chimes and other stuff. Probably would make it worse but I just wondered about it. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:55:22 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem to love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above them. Also suggest interplanting daffodils. On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am > sorry for > posting here. > > Natalie, > > Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > apologize. > I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > they > eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago > the deer > became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not > get into > that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. > I chose > repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. > They are > creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there > was no > nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a > number > on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. > > James do not boot me off. > > Sally > _
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Unless I missed a post I was not complaining. Sorry if you took it that way. I have a Masters degree in horticulture. I stated before did not start having a problem with deer until a few years ago. Everything I plant now is deer resistant. I am not giving up my daylily collection, because I have over 500 varieties. I started collecting before the deer changed their geazing pattern. I know they will eat some and I accept that. My cats love to lay amongst the daylilies. It gives the cover from the sun. Thanks for you offer. Sally This is my final post on the subject. Back to lurking folks. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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diatomaceous earth “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:43:46 -0500 > From: dlg...@windstream.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > What is DE? > Natalie wrote: > > Sorry, I don't mean to change the subject from our cats do deer, but. > > I have to confess to you that I am very heavily involved in trying to remove > > all the unfair blame for black-legged ticks/Lyme disease cast on deer. > > Scientific studies have shown that the number of deer have nothing to do > > with the number of ticks, and Lyme disease. In Fairfield County, CT (where > > I live), deer densities are a lot higher per sq/mi than in Windham County, > > CT - yet, incidents of LD are a lot higher where the deer numbers are lower! > > When many deer are killed, the assumption is, wrongly, that the number of > > ticks will decrease! It only means that the remaining deer will have more > > ticks on them. When a deer is killed, ticks don't die with them (just as > > when an animal that is infested with fleas dies, the fleas merely jump off > > onto other animals.) As soon as the blood cools, parasites leave. The ONLY > > solution is to go after the ticks! Black-legged ticks do not require only > > deer to fulfill their life-cycle to lay eggs - any midsized mammal will > > serve that purpose (horses in horse country, cattle on farms, etc, family > > dogs and even opportune Homo sapiens). Even though one might want to lay > > blame on the dozens of small mammals and even birds that carry the Lyme > > disease-causing spirochete bacterium, WITHOUT black-legged ticks, the > > transmission of the bacterium could be accomplished without them! Therefore, > > the ONLY solution to eliminating LD is getting rid of the black-legged > > ticks! > > And again, I'm not sure that anyone has seriously considered DE for doing > > that! It would stand to reason that if DE destroys the outer waxy covering > > of fleas, dehydrating them, why wouldn't it do the same on ticks? Although, > > it seems that fleas are harder to crunch and kill than ticks when they are > > engorged fully with blood > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sally Davis > > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:57 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > Ticks are the worst near wooded areas and in the woods. They are in tall > > > weeds, and shrubs. We have lots of deer and deer ticks, the smaller ticks > > > carry lyme disease. It even the nymph stage can tramsmit lyme. The deer > > > population has exploded here and so have the ticks. Last year the cats > > would > > > get in a nest of then and be covered with the small nymph stage. They > > would > > > engorge and I would have hundreds crawling on my bed. I uses a lint roller > > > and duct tape to get them up, but what a pain. They are not as bad this > > year > > > but I started using the Frontline earlier. Last year I had to rush out > > and > > > get it where I could. I did not get the cheapest price, but I still bought > > > the dog size. > > > > > > > As for Revolution I was not going to go there but I did not have a problem > > with it. I have heard it is safer then the other fles controls, because it > > works in a different way. I am not doubting what your vet says. Poison is > > poison. Sometimes a cat will lose hair where it is applied and it says that. > > I did have this happen with one of my FeLV cats. He was the cat who probably > > had Feline infectious anemia which is transmitted by fleas so for him better > > to make sure there are no fleas it only takes one flea to infect a cat, and > > a feline leukemia postive cat cannot fight off the infection. > > > > I have not used the nematodes but I have been interested in doing so. I do > > not have a lawn and fleas tend to live in grassy areas. They just feed on > > our pets. > > > > Sally > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.or
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Here's a lot of info: http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=deer-resistant+plants - deer resistant panting http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=garden+fencing+against+animal s - fencing -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:18 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Send them to me - my azalea bushes are overgrown and need trimming anyway! I used to have bunnies everywhere but now there's a few stray cats hanging around so I guess that's why they're not coming around anymore. I miss them though. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:04:39 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Bunnies eat my azaleas :( > > - Original Message - > From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and > > shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! > > Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill > > plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are > > lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem > > to love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above > > them. Also suggest interplanting daffodils. > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > > > >> OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am > >> sorry for > >> posting here. > >> > >> Natalie, > >> > >> Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > >> apologize. > >> I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > >> they > >> eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago > >> the deer > >> became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not > >> get into > >> that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. > >> I chose > >> repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. > >> They are > >> creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there > >> was no > >> nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a > >> number > >> on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. > >> > >> James do not boot me off. > >> > >> Sally > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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No, it wasn't you but I can send them to you too. The name Debbie comes to mind but I'm not sure about that either. I'm in a feline asthma group too so it may have been someone from there. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:51:22 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Was it to me? I think I was going to send some of my outdoor enclosures - > but it has to be provate because this site doesn't accept anything larger > than, is it 20MB? > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:29 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > Speaking of fences ... I was supposed to send pictures of my cat fence to > someone. Was it someone in this group? I don't think I ever sent them. > I'm so out of it though so I can't even remember who wanted it and if I ever > sent them. > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:23:36 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > > > Better research to find out what kind of fence to get. I used to find baby > bunnies in my fenced in backyard all the time. I had like one inch spaces in > between the boards and I guess they could slip through there plus I'd find > places where they had dug under the fence or chewed a little of the bottom > of the fence to make a bigger space to come in. This was years before I had > cats out there. My two dogs would only go out to pee so the bunnies had this > nice protected fenced in yard to come and go in and have their babies. I > found several of the nests out there and saw some really tiny ones. So cute. > But if the object is to keep them away better find the right kind of fence. > > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark > Twain > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:11:36 -0400 > > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > > > Bunnies are eating all my seedlings. I'm going to have to get a fence... > or > > > something. > > > > > > I would get outdoor cats if my neighbor didn't have two very aggressive > > > rotties. > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Lynda Wilson > wrote: > > > > > > > Bunnies eat my azaleas :( > > > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:55 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > > > > > > > > > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers > and > > > >> shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never > touched! > > > >> Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and > daylilieswill > > > >> plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there > are > > > >> lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! > > > >> > > > >> -Original Message- > > > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM > > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > >> > > > >> Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem > to > > > >> love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above them. > Also > > > >> suggest interplanting daffodils. > > > >> On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > > > >> > > > >> OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am > sorry > > > >>> for > > > >>> posting here. > > > >>> > > > >>> Natalie, > > > >>> > > > >>> Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > > > >>> apologize. > > > >>> I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > > > >>> they > > > >>> eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago > the > > > >>> deer > > > >>> became a problem. NOT their fault but the faul
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
There must be info online about it! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor I read that too but I don't know which oils it is that can cause problems. Since I hadn't planned on using it I didn't look it up. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:02:58 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > I've read that one has to be extremely careful about using some essential > oils on cats! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:08 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > FOR BUGS, especially buffalo gnats, use 1 teaspoon REAL vanilla in 1 quart > water. Spray it on the back of the cat's head and under their chin. Works > with mosquitos also. Everyone around here who has chickens use this every > day on them. If they don't, they loose a lot of chickens. The gnats clog > up the nostrils and also bite them under their heads and they die of bood > loss. > Katy Doyle wrote: > > Amen to flea collars! > > > > I've used Revolution on my FeLV+ cat, Buddy, since he was 5 weeks old and > > never had an incident. I am totally with you on minimizing chemicals that > I > > put on myself and my animals. (I made my own bug spray out of olive oil > and > > eucalyptus oil. Not 100% effective, but better than nothing.) > > > > This isn't approved for cats but I've switched my dog, Abbott, over to > these > > garlic tablets for fleas and ticks, > > http://www.springtimeinc.com/product/bug_off_garlic_chewables/dogs I only > > just started it at the beginning of the year, but I haven't seen any fleas > > or ticks on him yet! I had to take Abbott off of Revolution because he got > > whip worm, so now he's on Interceptor for anti-worms. I can't use Front > Line > > on any of my animals because I have a close friend that has food > > poisoning-like reations when she comes in contact with animals that have > it > > on them. She is a rare case and she loves my animals, so I am trying > > alternatives :-) And the Bug Off Garlic seems to be doing the trick! > > > > You can also use the Bug Off Garlic on yourself (I'm considering trying > it), > > you just follow the weight chart. I also hear that garlic and brewer's > yeast > > works very well. > > > > I wonder if it is safe to use on cats... If it is, you can mix the garlic > > and brewer's yeast power in with their food, this way you don't have to > > catch them to administer it... > > > > Ideas, ideas! > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > > > Sorry - my cat sent this before it was done. Don't read the previous > one, > > > it doesn't make sense - I was inserting something. > > > This is it: > > > I think that the problem is that when cats are in poor health, > underweight, > > > pregnant, after surgerythey should NOT be vaccinated or treated with > > > poisons like flea stuff, ever. My vet really has a strong dislike of > > > Revolution; he's never had any incidents with other products, other than > > > Zodiak. But then, again, he doesn't use them indiscriminately, only > when > > > it's perfectly safe, cats are in good shape, and he observes them and > asks > > > clients to do so and report ANY change in the cat after the use of those > > > products. > > > The reason we use the stuff around the house is because fleas can easily > > > get > > > into the garage, and our dog goes out and could bring them inside even > > > though she is treated with frontline. However, one can also bring a > flea > > > inside on one's clothes - VOILA, the beginning of many little ones in > the > > > making. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:45 AM > > > To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' > > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > > > I think that the problem is that when cats are in poor health, > underweight, > > > pregnant, after surgerythey should NOT be vaccinated or treated with > > > poisons like flea stuff, ever. My vet really has a strong dislike of > > > Revolution; he's never had any incidents with other products, other than > > > Zodiak. But then, again, he doesn'y use them indiscriminately, only > when > > > it's > > > The reason we use the stuff around the house is because fleas can easily > > > get > > > into t
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Was it to me? I think I was going to send some of my outdoor enclosures - but it has to be provate because this site doesn't accept anything larger than, is it 20MB? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Speaking of fences ... I was supposed to send pictures of my cat fence to someone. Was it someone in this group? I don't think I ever sent them. I'm so out of it though so I can't even remember who wanted it and if I ever sent them. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:23:36 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > Better research to find out what kind of fence to get. I used to find baby bunnies in my fenced in backyard all the time. I had like one inch spaces in between the boards and I guess they could slip through there plus I'd find places where they had dug under the fence or chewed a little of the bottom of the fence to make a bigger space to come in. This was years before I had cats out there. My two dogs would only go out to pee so the bunnies had this nice protected fenced in yard to come and go in and have their babies. I found several of the nests out there and saw some really tiny ones. So cute. But if the object is to keep them away better find the right kind of fence. > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > > > > > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:11:36 -0400 > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > Bunnies are eating all my seedlings. I'm going to have to get a fence... or > > something. > > > > I would get outdoor cats if my neighbor didn't have two very aggressive > > rotties. > > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: > > > > > Bunnies eat my azaleas :( > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:55 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > > > > > > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and > > >> shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! > > >> Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill > > >> plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are > > >> lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > >> > > >> Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem to > > >> love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above them. Also > > >> suggest interplanting daffodils. > > >> On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > > >> > > >> OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am sorry > > >>> for > > >>> posting here. > > >>> > > >>> Natalie, > > >>> > > >>> Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > > >>> apologize. > > >>> I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > > >>> they > > >>> eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago the > > >>> deer > > >>> became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not get > > >>> into > > >>> that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. I > > >>> chose > > >>> repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. They > > >>> are > > >>> creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there was > > >>> no > > >>> nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a > > >>> number > > >>> on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. > > >>> > > >>> James do not boot me off. > > >>> > > >>> Sally > > >>> ___ > > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > > >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >>
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That's right, and make sure it's the kind that birds can't get hung up in, too! But it all depends on what animals you're trying to keep out, too. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Better research to find out what kind of fence to get. I used to find baby bunnies in my fenced in backyard all the time. I had like one inch spaces in between the boards and I guess they could slip through there plus I'd find places where they had dug under the fence or chewed a little of the bottom of the fence to make a bigger space to come in. This was years before I had cats out there. My two dogs would only go out to pee so the bunnies had this nice protected fenced in yard to come and go in and have their babies. I found several of the nests out there and saw some really tiny ones. So cute. But if the object is to keep them away better find the right kind of fence. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:11:36 -0400 > From: athenapities...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Bunnies are eating all my seedlings. I'm going to have to get a fence... or > something. > > I would get outdoor cats if my neighbor didn't have two very aggressive > rotties. > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: > > > Bunnies eat my azaleas :( > > > > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:55 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > > > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and > >> shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! > >> Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill > >> plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are > >> lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > >> > >> Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem to > >> love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above them. Also > >> suggest interplanting daffodils. > >> On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > >> > >> OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am sorry > >>> for > >>> posting here. > >>> > >>> Natalie, > >>> > >>> Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > >>> apologize. > >>> I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > >>> they > >>> eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago the > >>> deer > >>> became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not get > >>> into > >>> that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. I > >>> chose > >>> repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. They > >>> are > >>> creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there was > >>> no > >>> nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a > >>> number > >>> on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. > >>> > >>> James do not boot me off. > >>> > >>> Sally > >>> ___ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman
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Deer have a certain territory and don't leave it. When you see a group of deer, they're always the same group. There are also some ultrasonic devices available to keep deer away , but we want to see more deer. We feed cracked corn to geese and ducks (we're on a pond with a waterfall); we were sitting on our deck one early summer, and a doe came and stared at us for a long time, so we put out some more corn. She went back into the underbrush at the edge of our property and came back with two fawns! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Wish they'd come in my yard and eat everything! I'm so tired of trimming shrubs and yard work. I used to like it but now I'm too busy with too many other things. My husband hates yard work worse than I do. I love to have a pretty yard but man it's a lot of work. If the deer came and tore it up then I'd have an excuse. Anyway, depending on the size of your property, I wonder if you planted a fruit tree or something they really liked at the far end of the property if they would stay with it and not come near your decorative plants. It might attract more deer though. I thought of it because at work we have some kind of big tree that puts out some kind of fruit (I don't even know what it is) and every year I see deer over there. I thought it was great and even put a salt lick over there. The thing is though that it's always two or three. I never see hoards and hoards of deer. Two or three come and eat and then they're gone. I work a lot of late evenings and I only see them here and there and only two or three at a time so they're not a major problem although there's plenty for them to eat and I would think more deer would come around. Wonder if they're territorial so they won't let other deer come eat their food. Well, just a thought. I know you don't want to attract deer but if they're coming no matter what and you're property is big enough just wondered if giving them something away from where you don't want them to be would help. As well as the wind chimes and other stuff. Probably would make it worse but I just wondered about it. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:55:22 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and > shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! > Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill > plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are > lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem > to love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above > them. Also suggest interplanting daffodils. > On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > > > OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am > > sorry for > > posting here. > > > > Natalie, > > > > Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > > apologize. > > I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > > they > > eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago > > the deer > > became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not > > get into > > that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. > > I chose > > repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. > > They are > > creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there > > was no > > nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a > > number > > on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. > > > > James do not boot me off. > > > > Sally > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Fe
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Squirrels dig up bulbs. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Bunnies eat my azaleas :( - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and > shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! > Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill > plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are > lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem > to love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above > them. Also suggest interplanting daffodils. > On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > >> OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am >> sorry for >> posting here. >> >> Natalie, >> >> Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I >> apologize. >> I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse >> they >> eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago >> the deer >> became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not >> get into >> that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. >> I chose >> repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. >> They are >> creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there >> was no >> nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a >> number >> on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. >> >> James do not boot me off. >> >> Sally >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I read that too but I don't know which oils it is that can cause problems. Since I hadn't planned on using it I didn't look it up. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:02:58 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > I've read that one has to be extremely careful about using some essential > oils on cats! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:08 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > FOR BUGS, especially buffalo gnats, use 1 teaspoon REAL vanilla in 1 quart > water. Spray it on the back of the cat's head and under their chin. Works > with mosquitos also. Everyone around here who has chickens use this every > day on them. If they don't, they loose a lot of chickens. The gnats clog > up the nostrils and also bite them under their heads and they die of bood > loss. > Katy Doyle wrote: > > Amen to flea collars! > > > > I've used Revolution on my FeLV+ cat, Buddy, since he was 5 weeks old and > > never had an incident. I am totally with you on minimizing chemicals that > I > > put on myself and my animals. (I made my own bug spray out of olive oil > and > > eucalyptus oil. Not 100% effective, but better than nothing.) > > > > This isn't approved for cats but I've switched my dog, Abbott, over to > these > > garlic tablets for fleas and ticks, > > http://www.springtimeinc.com/product/bug_off_garlic_chewables/dogs I only > > just started it at the beginning of the year, but I haven't seen any fleas > > or ticks on him yet! I had to take Abbott off of Revolution because he got > > whip worm, so now he's on Interceptor for anti-worms. I can't use Front > Line > > on any of my animals because I have a close friend that has food > > poisoning-like reations when she comes in contact with animals that have > it > > on them. She is a rare case and she loves my animals, so I am trying > > alternatives :-) And the Bug Off Garlic seems to be doing the trick! > > > > You can also use the Bug Off Garlic on yourself (I'm considering trying > it), > > you just follow the weight chart. I also hear that garlic and brewer's > yeast > > works very well. > > > > I wonder if it is safe to use on cats... If it is, you can mix the garlic > > and brewer's yeast power in with their food, this way you don't have to > > catch them to administer it... > > > > Ideas, ideas! > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > > > Sorry - my cat sent this before it was done. Don't read the previous > one, > > > it doesn't make sense - I was inserting something. > > > This is it: > > > I think that the problem is that when cats are in poor health, > underweight, > > > pregnant, after surgerythey should NOT be vaccinated or treated with > > > poisons like flea stuff, ever. My vet really has a strong dislike of > > > Revolution; he's never had any incidents with other products, other than > > > Zodiak. But then, again, he doesn't use them indiscriminately, only > when > > > it's perfectly safe, cats are in good shape, and he observes them and > asks > > > clients to do so and report ANY change in the cat after the use of those > > > products. > > > The reason we use the stuff around the house is because fleas can easily > > > get > > > into the garage, and our dog goes out and could bring them inside even > > > though she is treated with frontline. However, one can also bring a > flea > > > inside on one's clothes - VOILA, the beginning of many little ones in > the > > > making. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:45 AM > > > To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' > > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > > > I think that the problem is that when cats are in poor health, > underweight, > > > pregnant, after surgerythey should NOT be vaccinated or treated with > > > poisons like flea stuff, ever. My vet really has a strong dislike of > > > Revolution; he's never had any incidents with other products, other than > > > Zodiak. But then, again, he doesn'y use them indiscriminately, only > when > > > it's > > > The reason we use the stuff around the house is because fleas can easily > > > get > > > into the garage, and our dog goes out and could bring them inside even > > > though she is treated with frontline. However, one can also bring a > flea > > > inside on one's clothes - VOILA, the beginning of many little ones in > the > > > making. > > > > > > -Original Messa
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Speaking of fences ... I was supposed to send pictures of my cat fence to someone. Was it someone in this group? I don't think I ever sent them. I'm so out of it though so I can't even remember who wanted it and if I ever sent them. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:23:36 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > Better research to find out what kind of fence to get. I used to find baby > bunnies in my fenced in backyard all the time. I had like one inch spaces in > between the boards and I guess they could slip through there plus I'd find > places where they had dug under the fence or chewed a little of the bottom of > the fence to make a bigger space to come in. This was years before I had cats > out there. My two dogs would only go out to pee so the bunnies had this nice > protected fenced in yard to come and go in and have their babies. I found > several of the nests out there and saw some really tiny ones. So cute. But if > the object is to keep them away better find the right kind of fence. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:11:36 -0400 > > From: athenapities...@gmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > Bunnies are eating all my seedlings. I'm going to have to get a fence... or > > something. > > > > I would get outdoor cats if my neighbor didn't have two very aggressive > > rotties. > > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Lynda Wilson > > wrote: > > > > > Bunnies eat my azaleas :( > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:55 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > > > > > > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and > > >> shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! > > >> Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill > > >> plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are > > >> lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > >> > > >> Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem to > > >> love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above them. > > >> Also > > >> suggest interplanting daffodils. > > >> On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > > >> > > >> OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am sorry > > >>> for > > >>> posting here. > > >>> > > >>> Natalie, > > >>> > > >>> Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > > >>> apologize. > > >>> I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > > >>> they > > >>> eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago the > > >>> deer > > >>> became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not get > > >>> into > > >>> that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. I > > >>> chose > > >>> repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. They > > >>> are > > >>> creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there was > > >>> no > > >>> nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a > > >>> number > > >>> on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. > > >>> > > >>> James do not boot me off. > > >>> > > >>> Sally > > >>> ___ > > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > > >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >> > > >> > > > > > > _
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
I buy mine on line from vetmeds4pets. An UK company that sells Frontline Combo which is exactly the same as Frontline Plus just the European version. Shipping is a flat $4.08. You can get a 12 pack for cats for $64.08. http://www.vetmeds4pets.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=17&products_id=150&osCsid=1d74d06c5731f73aa7a9a85ef391d33d I buy the large dog version, put it in a small jar any syringe out the amount I need for each cat. Same ingredients just a little less of one in the dog version vs the cat. Like you I have too many cats to use the stuff you can buy in the stores here. For those that use Revolution they have the Stronghold, the UK version. Sharyl From: Lorrie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 3, 2011 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Re: My original post on Pet Armor. I found it in Wal-mart yesterday, but I didn't buy it because I wasn't sure about it. It claims to be exactly like Frontline, and the ingrediants listed were the same, but I didn't think it was cheaper than Frontline I can buy from Canada Vet Meds online. In Wal-mart Pet Armor was $28.99 for 3 pipettes. With 15 cats I need a better price. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Better research to find out what kind of fence to get. I used to find baby bunnies in my fenced in backyard all the time. I had like one inch spaces in between the boards and I guess they could slip through there plus I'd find places where they had dug under the fence or chewed a little of the bottom of the fence to make a bigger space to come in. This was years before I had cats out there. My two dogs would only go out to pee so the bunnies had this nice protected fenced in yard to come and go in and have their babies. I found several of the nests out there and saw some really tiny ones. So cute. But if the object is to keep them away better find the right kind of fence. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:11:36 -0400 > From: athenapities...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Bunnies are eating all my seedlings. I'm going to have to get a fence... or > something. > > I would get outdoor cats if my neighbor didn't have two very aggressive > rotties. > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: > > > Bunnies eat my azaleas :( > > > > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:55 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > > > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and > >> shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! > >> Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill > >> plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are > >> lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > >> > >> Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem to > >> love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above them. Also > >> suggest interplanting daffodils. > >> On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > >> > >> OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am sorry > >>> for > >>> posting here. > >>> > >>> Natalie, > >>> > >>> Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > >>> apologize. > >>> I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > >>> they > >>> eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago the > >>> deer > >>> became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not get > >>> into > >>> that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. I > >>> chose > >>> repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. They > >>> are > >>> creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there was > >>> no > >>> nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a > >>> number > >>> on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. > >>> > >>> James do not boot me off. > >>> > >>> Sally > >>> ___ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Send them to me - my azalea bushes are overgrown and need trimming anyway! I used to have bunnies everywhere but now there's a few stray cats hanging around so I guess that's why they're not coming around anymore. I miss them though. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:04:39 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Bunnies eat my azaleas :( > > - Original Message - > From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and > > shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! > > Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill > > plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are > > lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem > > to love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above > > them. Also suggest interplanting daffodils. > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > > > >> OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am > >> sorry for > >> posting here. > >> > >> Natalie, > >> > >> Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > >> apologize. > >> I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > >> they > >> eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago > >> the deer > >> became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not > >> get into > >> that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. > >> I chose > >> repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. > >> They are > >> creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there > >> was no > >> nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a > >> number > >> on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. > >> > >> James do not boot me off. > >> > >> Sally > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Wish they'd come in my yard and eat everything! I'm so tired of trimming shrubs and yard work. I used to like it but now I'm too busy with too many other things. My husband hates yard work worse than I do. I love to have a pretty yard but man it's a lot of work. If the deer came and tore it up then I'd have an excuse. Anyway, depending on the size of your property, I wonder if you planted a fruit tree or something they really liked at the far end of the property if they would stay with it and not come near your decorative plants. It might attract more deer though. I thought of it because at work we have some kind of big tree that puts out some kind of fruit (I don't even know what it is) and every year I see deer over there. I thought it was great and even put a salt lick over there. The thing is though that it's always two or three. I never see hoards and hoards of deer. Two or three come and eat and then they're gone. I work a lot of late evenings and I only see them here and there and only two or three at a time so they're not a major problem although there's plenty for them to eat and I would think more deer would come around. Wonder if they're territorial so they won't let other deer come eat their food. Well, just a thought. I know you don't want to attract deer but if they're coming no matter what and you're property is big enough just wondered if giving them something away from where you don't want them to be would help. As well as the wind chimes and other stuff. Probably would make it worse but I just wondered about it. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:55:22 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and > shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! > Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill > plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are > lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem > to love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above > them. Also suggest interplanting daffodils. > On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > > > OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am > > sorry for > > posting here. > > > > Natalie, > > > > Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > > apologize. > > I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > > they > > eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago > > the deer > > became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not > > get into > > that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. > > I chose > > repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. > > They are > > creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there > > was no > > nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a > > number > > on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. > > > > James do not boot me off. > > > > Sally > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Bunnies are eating all my seedlings. I'm going to have to get a fence... or something. I would get outdoor cats if my neighbor didn't have two very aggressive rotties. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: > Bunnies eat my azaleas :( > > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and >> shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! >> Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill >> plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are >> lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor >> >> Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem to >> love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above them. Also >> suggest interplanting daffodils. >> On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: >> >> OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am sorry >>> for >>> posting here. >>> >>> Natalie, >>> >>> Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I >>> apologize. >>> I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse >>> they >>> eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago the >>> deer >>> became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not get >>> into >>> that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. I >>> chose >>> repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. They >>> are >>> creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there was >>> no >>> nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a >>> number >>> on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. >>> >>> James do not boot me off. >>> >>> Sally >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Bunnies eat my azaleas :( - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem to love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above them. Also suggest interplanting daffodils. On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am sorry for posting here. Natalie, Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I apologize. I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse they eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago the deer became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not get into that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. I chose repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. They are creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there was no nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a number on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. James do not boot me off. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
I've read that one has to be extremely careful about using some essential oils on cats! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:08 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor FOR BUGS, especially buffalo gnats, use 1 teaspoon REAL vanilla in 1 quart water. Spray it on the back of the cat's head and under their chin. Works with mosquitos also. Everyone around here who has chickens use this every day on them. If they don't, they loose a lot of chickens. The gnats clog up the nostrils and also bite them under their heads and they die of bood loss. Katy Doyle wrote: > Amen to flea collars! > > I've used Revolution on my FeLV+ cat, Buddy, since he was 5 weeks old and > never had an incident. I am totally with you on minimizing chemicals that I > put on myself and my animals. (I made my own bug spray out of olive oil and > eucalyptus oil. Not 100% effective, but better than nothing.) > > This isn't approved for cats but I've switched my dog, Abbott, over to these > garlic tablets for fleas and ticks, > http://www.springtimeinc.com/product/bug_off_garlic_chewables/dogs I only > just started it at the beginning of the year, but I haven't seen any fleas > or ticks on him yet! I had to take Abbott off of Revolution because he got > whip worm, so now he's on Interceptor for anti-worms. I can't use Front Line > on any of my animals because I have a close friend that has food > poisoning-like reations when she comes in contact with animals that have it > on them. She is a rare case and she loves my animals, so I am trying > alternatives :-) And the Bug Off Garlic seems to be doing the trick! > > You can also use the Bug Off Garlic on yourself (I'm considering trying it), > you just follow the weight chart. I also hear that garlic and brewer's yeast > works very well. > > I wonder if it is safe to use on cats... If it is, you can mix the garlic > and brewer's yeast power in with their food, this way you don't have to > catch them to administer it... > > Ideas, ideas! > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Natalie wrote: > > > Sorry - my cat sent this before it was done. Don't read the previous one, > > it doesn't make sense - I was inserting something. > > This is it: > > I think that the problem is that when cats are in poor health, underweight, > > pregnant, after surgerythey should NOT be vaccinated or treated with > > poisons like flea stuff, ever. My vet really has a strong dislike of > > Revolution; he's never had any incidents with other products, other than > > Zodiak. But then, again, he doesn't use them indiscriminately, only when > > it's perfectly safe, cats are in good shape, and he observes them and asks > > clients to do so and report ANY change in the cat after the use of those > > products. > > The reason we use the stuff around the house is because fleas can easily > > get > > into the garage, and our dog goes out and could bring them inside even > > though she is treated with frontline. However, one can also bring a flea > > inside on one's clothes - VOILA, the beginning of many little ones in the > > making. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:45 AM > > To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > I think that the problem is that when cats are in poor health, underweight, > > pregnant, after surgerythey should NOT be vaccinated or treated with > > poisons like flea stuff, ever. My vet really has a strong dislike of > > Revolution; he's never had any incidents with other products, other than > > Zodiak. But then, again, he doesn'y use them indiscriminately, only when > > it's > > The reason we use the stuff around the house is because fleas can easily > > get > > into the garage, and our dog goes out and could bring them inside even > > though she is treated with frontline. However, one can also bring a flea > > inside on one's clothes - VOILA, the beginning of many little ones in the > > making. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of POTT, BEVERLY > > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:09 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > > Even if you have indoor-only cats, they can get fleas. A vet once told > > me, "If a squirrel runs through your yard, you can have a flea > > infestation in the house." True, dat. My college roommate and I had > > three indoor cats, and one summer they all became so infested we had to > > bomb the house... Twice. (Interesting side-note: a flea can't > > live/reproduce off human blood) > > > > I have 12 cats and use Revolution on them. I don't put it on all of them > > at once- I stagger it and put it on two thi
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
It's interesting that everyone always complains about certain flowers and shrubs being eaten. We have over 50-yr old rhododendrons, never touched! Azaleas - never touched! I stopped growing tulips and daylilieswill plant daffodils next year - love them! If anyone is interested, there are lists of plants that are deer-resistant, quite a few of them online! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Suggest that you try lots of wind chimescheap is fine. They seem to love hostas but don't touch the few I havewith chimes above them. Also suggest interplanting daffodils. On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am > sorry for > posting here. > > Natalie, > > Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > apologize. > I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse > they > eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago > the deer > became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not > get into > that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. > I chose > repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. > They are > creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there > was no > nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a > number > on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. > > James do not boot me off. > > Sally > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Ticks, deer, cats, dogs
That's true, this forum isn't about deer, but as everything in Nature, it all connects, such as ticks, and it's important to know that even with no or only few deer around, the blacklegged tick can still transmit the spirochete bacterium to us and our pets because the whitefooted mouse and several dozen other small mammals carry it. Birds have been found to not only be infected with it, but can also transfer ticks from one area to another area through flight, which is very often ignored! The best thing to do is clear all leaves and debris from around the house and perimeter - all very fertile ground for tick breeding! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor OFF TOPIC RE: DEER I think there is another forum for this. I am sorry for posting here. Natalie, Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I apologize. I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the deer beacuse they eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years and five years ago the deer became a problem. NOT their fault but the fault of man. I will not get into that. I do not think the deer need to be shot or anything like that. I chose repellants to hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. They are creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when there was no nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in VA. They did a number on plants they rarely touched in the past so I know they were hungry. James do not boot me off. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Re: My original post on Pet Armor. I found it in Wal-mart yesterday, but I didn't buy it because I wasn't sure about it. It claims to be exactly like Frontline, and the ingrediants listed were the same, but I didn't think it was cheaper than Frontline I can buy from Canada Vet Meds online. In Wal-mart Pet Armor was $28.99 for 3 pipettes. With 15 cats I need a better price. Original Post On 05-31, Lorrie wrote: > >Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same >thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor >site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. >I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you >have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me >know. > >Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Deer OT
Re: our posts on deer.. We live in a wooded area where there are many many deer, raccoons, possums and other wildlife. They are here because we humans took over their land. They were here first, and we've stolen so much of their habitat there is very little land left for them, and their only option is to "trespass" on our property or starve! My heart goes out to all wild things who lost their homes. In regard to them eating our plants, the deer here eat all sorts of plants, even plants it is said they don't like. I use Deer Off on what I want to save. It's a stinky smelling spray, but it works. Without it they ate my peonies, forsythia, lillies, hostas and just about everything. They spray is not harmful to them, just stinky. > Natalie, > > Hold on. I am not blaming the deer. I was over simplifying, so I > apologize. I have oppossum raccoons and squirels too. I battle the > deer beacuse they eat my daylilies. I have lived here for 25 years > and five years ago the deer became a problem. NOT their fault but > the fault of man. I will not get into that. I do not think the deer > need to be shot or anything like that. I chose repellants to > hopefully get them to change their browsing patterns. They are > creatures of habit. I felt sorry for them two winters ago when > there was no nut crop in the fall and we had lots of snow here in > VA. They did a number on plants they rarely touched in the past so > I know they were hungry. > > Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor
Does the same to dogs. On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Sharyl wrote: Onions can cause heinz bodies anemia in most cats. Some feel that garlic can do the same thing but it is not as certain as onions are. Sharyl From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2011 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor I have always heard that garlic ad onionsare deah to cats. Natalie wrote: When our garage was flea-infested when I first started trapping feral cats, I couldn't treat them individually. The fleas were jumping on us in the garage, thankfully, they didn't make it into the house. I used diatomaceous earth, sprinkled it all over the floor, cracks along the wall, in the garage - a little away from the cats because you're not supposed to inhale it. The flea problem was resolved. However, I also heard many good things about the two cedar solutions below. We spray around the outside of the house with flea control from www.arbico-organics.com - these are friendly nematodes; sure works for us because I cannot individually use a product on all cats, and I don't want to continue using poisons on them. http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Natural+flea+control+for+cats - a whole list of things Natural Flea and Tick Control for Dogs and Cats Get rid of fleas and ticks with our natural flea and tick control products. Our flea spray and tick spray are the ultimate in flea and tick control for dogs and cats. www.cedarbugfree.com/product_pages/pet_pages/flea_tick.htm Non Toxic DIY Flea Control Home Dogs Cats Flea Treatment Horse CedarCide's Non Toxic DIY Flea Control For Home Dogs Cats Horses. All Natural Organic Flea Treatment Products Kills Fleas and Flea Eggs on Contact. A Pet Safe Flea ... www.cedarcidestore.com/NON_TOXIC_FLEAS_CONTROL.html Brewer's Yeast and Garlic Adding a yeast supplement to your cat's diet has been shown by some studies to significantly reduce the number of fleas on your cat. However, some veterinarians claim that both Brewer's yeast and garlic treatments are ineffective, and that no controlled scientific or clinical tests have shown these two ingredients to have any effect on fleas. Dr. Pitcairn's (author of "Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats") experience with yeast has shown some favorable effects, particularly when the cat's health is good. Brewer's yeast tablets may act as a flea repellent (working from the inside out). You can buy Brewer's yeast tablets and give these to your cat as a treat. You can also rub the yeast directly into your cat's coat. Raw garlic is considered another natural flea control treatment that may also act as a flea repellent. It is supposed to make your cat's blood unappealing to fleas. One recommendation is to crush a little garlic in your cat's food everyday while you are fighting fleas. But please note that there is some debate as to how safe garlic is for your feline friend. You may also be able to find garlic tablets to give to your cat as treats. Brewer's yeast and garlic are supposed to be relatively harmless to your cat, so if you give yeast or garlic to your cat as a natural flea control treatment, you can safely judge for yourself whether they offer any flea protection or flea control for your cat. Combination Brewer's yeast and garlic tablets can also be given to your cat as a treat, although some cats are too finicky to consider this a treat. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning & combing cats to get rid of fleas & they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie wrote: From: Lorrie Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org
