Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply
Yeah, right - they definitely must be taking a bath! How can they get the water so dirty? Even just one raccoon makes a mess of the water. They are cute though. I was tossing little bits of a banana to one once and after the banana was gone he slowly walked up to me then bent over and sniffed my shoe and then walked away. I was scared he might bite me but I was too curious about what he was going to do to move. But, they can be a problem too when they're tearing things up and eating the cat's food and you feed 50 ferals a day and don't have money to feed them too. Just read that the babies leave the home range after a certain age. So that's why they disappear. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:57:27 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply CC: molvey...@hotmail.com I was going to say that the coons will just carry off the feeder and break it open at their convenience. I loose a lot of suet feeders that way. My outside water bowls are always dirty in the AM. One has to wash their food before eating it. I think they also take a bath before eating. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, they can climb trees and recently I found out that they can get on top of my car. I had put some bags of cat food on the trunk of my car one night. When I came back outside a couple hours later there were nice little raccoon paw prints on my car and windshield and a tear in the bag. I didn't see any major scratches in the paint, like from them climbing, so I wondered if it was really the cats but those dirty paw prints gave it away. Cat paw prints are different. My suggestion - give up. You can't beat the raccoons. Or the opposums for that matter. They climb trees too. I leave extra food out when I have donated food but if not it can get expensive trying to feed the raccoons, opposums and cats. I don't mind feeding the raccoons but I'm not rich enough to feed all the hungry mouths in GA. I'm wondering if raccoons are transient though. Like I read on an opposum website that they don't plant roots. They may stick around a few days but then they move on. I have a feeling raccoons do that also. I need to google it. Right now at one of my feral locations there are no raccoons coming around at night. But at times I know there are because all the food is gone and the water is dirty. Plus I've seen them there when I go by at night. But for the last couple of months when I show up the next day the cats have dry food left from the day before and the water is clean. And at my house I also will sometimes see a mama and babies. But a month or two later I'm only seeing one or two raccoons coming around, not the mama and four babies. Where did they go? My friend that only has a couple cats at one feeding station uses one of those food containers with a timer on it. She feeds a certain amount in an open bowl during the day, but at 9:00 at night one side of the container opens with food and later in the night, like 2:00 am the other side opens. That way the cats have food during the night. But the timer thing is small and wouldn't work with a big colony. Plus I've had raccoons carry bowls off so I would think they would carry that off too. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:46:07 -0800 From: khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply The raccoons near one of my colonies climb the 3-story-high palm tree there, to live in it, so yes, they can climb. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:44 AM, dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about this. Dotty From: MaiMaiPG cougarcl...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Do they have battery operated radios that
Re: [Felvtalk] Screen - Raccoons
I think what you mention here is called Pet Screen. It is an extremely strong poly vinyl screen that is virtually tear proof. I screened in our porch with this and it's been up for years with 15 cats at home and raccoons outside. I got it online, but later found out Lowes has it in stock. Lorrie On 05-31, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I got some information on a screen that the manufacturer says is cat, dog and raccoon proof. Also no seeums proof. It cost $108.00 per roll (which is a large roll). I will try to dig out the info and send it to you. I was planning on fencing in my deck for days when I have to leave early and get back late. At least they would be able to get outside. Harley especially is a real pain when he can't go outside, knocking things down, over and driving the others crazy (this will make me give in and let him out). I don't want to leave them outside when I am gone because they might get hurt and I would not get back in time to take them to the vet. I know, crazy, but I don't want to loose any of them because of stupidity. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
On 05-31, Maureen Olvey wrote: My suggestion - give up. You can't beat the raccoons. Raccoons are clever little beasties and they can figure out just about anything. I'm surprised your friend's feeder is still there. I had one carried off and they also carried off the feed bowls and a screamer that I paid $60. for and was supposed to scare off raccoons! My solution is to feed my ferals early in the morning when raccoons are not out. They are nocturnal. They can climb trees but they cannot jump very high. I've heard of people in my other group using a platform on a metal pole. The cats can jump 4 or 5 feet high but not the raccoons. I'd be concerned about this however, because old cats or an injured feral couldn't jump that high either. So early morning feeding has worked best for me. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Screen - Raccoons
Yes, there is, and we are finally getting some because our cats climb screens http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Pet+screening -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:36 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Screen - Raccoons I think what you mention here is called Pet Screen. It is an extremely strong poly vinyl screen that is virtually tear proof. I screened in our porch with this and it's been up for years with 15 cats at home and raccoons outside. I got it online, but later found out Lowes has it in stock. Lorrie On 05-31, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I got some information on a screen that the manufacturer says is cat, dog and raccoon proof. Also no seeums proof. It cost $108.00 per roll (which is a large roll). I will try to dig out the info and send it to you. I was planning on fencing in my deck for days when I have to leave early and get back late. At least they would be able to get outside. Harley especially is a real pain when he can't go outside, knocking things down, over and driving the others crazy (this will make me give in and let him out). I don't want to leave them outside when I am gone because they might get hurt and I would not get back in time to take them to the vet. I know, crazy, but I don't want to loose any of them because of stupidity. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply
Had to resend - didn't erase anything.was too large. From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:32 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply Raccoons always dip their food in water.and their little adorable feet may not always be so clean..dirty water, YES! Thankfully, I don't have to put out water for them because the wildlife feeder with all the cat food leftovers is right next to a stream coming from the waterfall. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:06 AM To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply Yeah, right - they definitely must be taking a bath! How can they get the water so dirty? Even just one raccoon makes a mess of the water. They are cute though. I was tossing little bits of a banana to one once and after the banana was gone he slowly walked up to me then bent over and sniffed my shoe and then walked away. I was scared he might bite me but I was too curious about what he was going to do to move. But, they can be a problem too when they're tearing things up and eating the cat's food and you feed 50 ferals a day and don't have money to feed them too. Just read that the babies leave the home range after a certain age. So that's why they disappear. I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:57:27 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply CC: molvey...@hotmail.com I was going to say that the coons will just carry off the feeder and break it open at their convenience. I loose a lot of suet feeders that way. My outside water bowls are always dirty in the AM. One has to wash their food before eating it. I think they also take a bath before eating. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO]
Everyone, speaking of raccoons..adorable video! Check out an orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] http://www.wimp.com/orphanraccoon/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO]
I think I just melted. Absolutely adorable. Guess he had to rescue the little rascal. Not to say that I promote making pets of wildlife, but raccoons sometimes do get domesticated, especially when they are young. And there's a ferret involved for company. Nice man. Doesn't mind the messy way his Coon Kid eats popcorn. From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 2:53 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] Everyone, speaking of raccoons……adorable video! Check out an orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO]
OMG, is the the cutest video EVER :) LOVE when he is eating popcorn on the couch :) Our house backs up to a forest reserve so we have many many raccoons that we feed in the backyard :) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:53:36 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] Everyone, speaking of raccoons……adorable video! Check out an orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply
Wow. That's amazing! From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply You have them figured out ! The old timers around here say a coon can get into or out of anything. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I can give you first hand information on how raccoons get where they want to go. I was sitting on my deck out here in the middle of nowhere, watching my cats eat their kibble when I heard scrabbling in one of the trees. The brave cats took off for under the house and I assumed that Batman and Robin had landed. Then a giant mama raccoon and four puff ball kits came sauntering over the branches of the tree, plopped down on the deck and waddled over to the feed bowl. They cleaned it in a matter of minutes, looked at me, sauntered back to the wooden railing on the deck, climbed up, jumped onto the large tree branch and were gone into the night with a maximum of scrabbling again and a flutter of twigs and leaves. So that should clear up any doubt about how raccoons get around. They even get on top of my roof from time to time and I know they can't fly. From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Hi Lee - The feeder I saw on line showed a dry feed station up high on a pole but that's as far as the raccoon could climb. It had one of those metal sheets that they use to keep squirrels out of bird feeders, and then the actual house construction on top of that to house the dry cat food. Then they had a small tiny cat house nearby from which the cats would go atop and jump to the feeder. But acc to info on line the raccoon can't jump up there. Wondering about this. Also wondering how the cats would jump in winter when there is snow and ice on top of that smaller house. Dotty From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION The jump up feeder wouldn't work because raccoons can climb just like cats. Last year, when I was feeding a colony, two mama raccoons and a total of 12 puff balls began dining at my cat feeding station. I got some donated dog food that they ate, I guess as an appetizer before they cleaned out the cat food. I don't think there's any way of stopping them. They are so cute, especially the little puff ball kids. Expensive too. As they grew enormous, one of them would run over to me and try to grab the feeding container out of my hands. Scary! I heard that raccoons like fruit. Maybe get some donated fruit and nuts, anything that cats won't eat and offer it to the raccoon? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply
Yes, you are right. I think the raccoon has moved on and are probably transient. I don't see him running around the area anymore. There seems to be food in the bin now. And you are right. They left the water bowls empty and dirty. BUT, now the cats still don't seem to want to eat the dry food b/c they can still smell the raccoon even though I believe it is gone. The cats just kind of peer into the bin and sniff and walk away! From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply I was going to say that the coons will just carry off the feeder and break it open at their convenience. I loose a lot of suet feeders that way. My outside water bowls are always dirty in the AM. One has to wash their food before eating it. I think they also take a bath before eating. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, they can climb trees and recently I found out that they can get on top of my car. I had put some bags of cat food on the trunk of my car one night. When I came back outside a couple hours later there were nice little raccoon paw prints on my car and windshield and a tear in the bag. I didn't see any major scratches in the paint, like from them climbing, so I wondered if it was really the cats but those dirty paw prints gave it away. Cat paw prints are different. My suggestion - give up. You can't beat the raccoons. Or the opposums for that matter. They climb trees too. I leave extra food out when I have donated food but if not it can get expensive trying to feed the raccoons, opposums and cats. I don't mind feeding the raccoons but I'm not rich enough to feed all the hungry mouths in GA. I'm wondering if raccoons are transient though. Like I read on an opposum website that they don't plant roots. They may stick around a few days but then they move on. I have a feeling raccoons do that also. I need to google it. Right now at one of my feral locations there are no raccoons coming around at night. But at times I know there are because all the food is gone and the water is dirty. Plus I've seen them there when I go by at night. But for the last couple of months when I show up the next day the cats have dry food left from the day before and the water is clean. And at my house I also will sometimes see a mama and babies. But a month or two later I'm only seeing one or two raccoons coming around, not the mama and four babies. Where did they go? My friend that only has a couple cats at one feeding station uses one of those food containers with a timer on it. She feeds a certain amount in an open bowl during the day, but at 9:00 at night one side of the container opens with food and later in the night, like 2:00 am the other side opens. That way the cats have food during the night. But the timer thing is small and wouldn't work with a big colony. Plus I've had raccoons carry bowls off so I would think they would carry that off too. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:46:07 -0800 From: khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply The raccoons near one of my colonies climb the 3-story-high palm tree there, to live in it, so yes, they can climb. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:44 AM, dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about this. Dotty From: MaiMaiPG cougarcl...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap it and relocate it? On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION A radio playing at
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night. Because i would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one. One trip is to bring the meat to them. If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back and then another time that day to bring it in again. I live the next town over and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it is! Thanks for all your suggestions. What did you mean about the RAMP? I was not sure I understood. Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry food station and then open in the morning! L.O.L. dotty From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds don't get or drop. I also get possums coming for the seed. They both come to the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water for the birds. They come all during the day, especially the young ones who have just been weaned. When they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming back. Maybe try moving the food to a different location, confuse them? Coons are smart, scheming little kids. I had one that sekt stealing the bait out of a trap, so I watched all night and caught her. She entered the trap, sucked in her stomachso she would not trip the door and reached across the trip plate, took the food and backed out. Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the trap and in the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap. Big Momma, another (35lbs) kept getting in my seed can. She would open it and let the babies in to eat. Tried using straps from pick up. She chewed thru them. Brought it inside and she tried to turn the door handle so she could get in to it. Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too. I will ask Perk (an old timer round here who used to hunt them) maybe he can come up with something. Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and once the cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food at night. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION They are and they are a royal pain. On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote: I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in a different place putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the ferals during the day the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons are nocturnal like opossums Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder? I am feeding 7 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food every night in the dry food feeding station. I feed the cats by day some meat and throw away the plates when done. But the dry food is a staple food for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give. Also, in case I can't get there to feed them. Any suggestions? I have seen some constructions on line but the cats have to jump up to get into them and there is one older cat I don't think he can jump up into anything! Please let me know. I know this has nothing to do with leukemia, but it does have to do with helping cats. Dotty - Freehold, NJ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply
Don't worry - I have no intention of trapping and relocating the raccoon. It could have babies. And I have my hands full with the cats so i don't need more work!!! l.o.l. From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply Please don’t trap this time of year, they could still have babies somewhere…and depending on the state, laws may prohibit relocation of wildlife (as in CT). From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out. I'm afraid to trap it - it may have babies somewhere. I'd feel bad. I read coons can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can. Wondering about this. Dotty From:MaiMaiPG cougarcl...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply Do they have battery operated radios that have timers? Be aware that coons can destroy about anything. If this is one coon or maybe two, can you trap it and relocate it? On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote: Hi Martha - I don't live nearby. I live in the next town over. I drive over there once a day. Wish i did. That would be a good idea if I could have noise at night to deter the critters! Thanks From:Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats
Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for the 7 cats i feed every day. They are all so beautiful and quite healthy looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food. At least 3 of them are very friendly and the others are coming around, too. Anyone have any input about how to place these cats? I hate to bring them to a shelter even if it's no kill. They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how long. It's very hard feeding every day. It's just me and my husband. We can never go away anywhere now because of it. What are your experiences? Dotty From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night. Because i would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one. One trip is to bring the meat to them. If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back and then another time that day to bring it in again. I live the next town over and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it is! Thanks for all your suggestions. What did you mean about the RAMP? I was not sure I understood. Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry food station and then open in the morning! L.O.L. dotty From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds don't get or drop. I also get possums coming for the seed. They both come to the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water for the birds. They come all during the day, especially the young ones who have just been weaned. When they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming back. Maybe try moving the food to a different location, confuse them? Coons are smart, scheming little kids. I had one that sekt stealing the bait out of a trap, so I watched all night and caught her. She entered the trap, sucked in her stomachso she would not trip the door and reached across the trip plate, took the food and backed out. Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the trap and in the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap. Big Momma, another (35lbs) kept getting in my seed can. She would open it and let the babies in to eat. Tried using straps from pick up. She chewed thru them. Brought it inside and she tried to turn the door handle so she could get in to it. Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too. I will ask Perk (an old timer round here who used to hunt them) maybe he can come up with something. Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and once the cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food at night. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION They are and they are a royal pain. On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote: I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in a different place putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the ferals during the day the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons are nocturnal like opossums Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder? I am feeding 7 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food every night in the dry food feeding station. I feed the cats by day some meat and throw away the plates when done. But the dry food is a staple food for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give. Also, in case I can't get there to
Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
I actually had a baby opossum that somehow got into my house. My cats just sat there and looked at it like it was an alien. The opossum paid no attention to the cats. My dog keeps them off the porch where some of the ferals feed. She hates opossums. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Whenever someone dumps a cat around here, I always see them eating together with possums - it's amazing. The first time I saw it, I was really terrified for the cat! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION cats and possums getting along. That was one worry I had about feeding the birds, that the cats could be hurt by them. So far, all my cats have enough good sense to back off when they and the coons come up to eat. Somehow they seem to know they could not win a fight with either one of them. Coons can kill a full grown dog, especially if they get them in enough water to hold their head down until the drown them. Dana Giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com wrote: I feed mine on the ground inside a bin which I have cut out the sides of so they can pass through. I lean boards up Against the sides. It's low perfect for a cat and opossums but apparently too low and awkward for a raccoon to get in there. I put a large deep square plastic food bin inside and a piece of styrofoam on the floor inside to wedge the food bin into one place. Opossums and cats get along fine so I let them share. My main issues end up being ants and slugs which I use food grade diacetemous earth and sandpaper to deter. I also have a rope light out there - dunno if that deters so wanted to mention it. Hope that helps. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
I have a raccoon that thinks he's a cat! The mom cat comes to eat in the mornings when I open my back patio door, the cat comes running then the raccoon comes running! lol Sent from my iPhone On Jun 1, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: I actually had a baby opossum that somehow got into my house. My cats just sat there and looked at it like it was an alien. The opossum paid no attention to the cats. My dog keeps them off the porch where some of the ferals feed. She hates opossums. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Whenever someone dumps a cat around here, I always see them eating together with possums - it's amazing. The first time I saw it, I was really terrified for the cat! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION cats and possums getting along. That was one worry I had about feeding the birds, that the cats could be hurt by them. So far, all my cats have enough good sense to back off when they and the coons come up to eat. Somehow they seem to know they could not win a fight with either one of them. Coons can kill a full grown dog, especially if they get them in enough water to hold their head down until the drown them. Dana Giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com wrote: I feed mine on the ground inside a bin which I have cut out the sides of so they can pass through. I lean boards up Against the sides. It's low perfect for a cat and opossums but apparently too low and awkward for a raccoon to get in there. I put a large deep square plastic food bin inside and a piece of styrofoam on the floor inside to wedge the food bin into one place. Opossums and cats get along fine so I let them share. My main issues end up being ants and slugs which I use food grade diacetemous earth and sandpaper to deter. I also have a rope light out there - dunno if that deters so wanted to mention it. Hope that helps. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
Door on a timer? However, my bet is on the coons. On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:37 PM, dot winkler wrote: Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night. Because i would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one. One trip is to bring the meat to them. If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back and then another time that day to bring it in again. I live the next town over and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it is! Thanks for all your suggestions. What did you mean about the RAMP? I was not sure I understood. Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry food station and then open in the morning! L.O.L. dotty From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds don't get or drop. I also get possums coming for the seed. They both come to the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water for the birds. They come all during the day, especially the young ones who have just been weaned. When they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming back. Maybe try moving the food to a different location, confuse them? Coons are smart, scheming little kids. I had one that sekt stealing the bait out of a trap, so I watched all night and caught her. She entered the trap, sucked in her stomachso she would not trip the door and reached across the trip plate, took the food and backed out. Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the trap and in the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap. Big Momma, another (35lbs) kept getting in my seed can. She would open it and let the babies in to eat. Tried using straps from pick up. She chewed thru them. Brought it inside and she tried to turn the door handle so she could get in to it. Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too. I will ask Perk (an old timer round here who used to hunt them) maybe he can come up with something. Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and once the cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food at night. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION They are and they are a royal pain. On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote: I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in a different place putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the ferals during the day the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons are nocturnal like opossums Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder? I am feeding 7 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food every night in the dry food feeding station. I feed the cats by day some meat and throw away the plates when done. But the dry food is a staple food for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give. Also, in case I can't get there to feed them. Any suggestions? I have seen some constructions on line but the cats have to jump up to get into them and there is one older cat I don't think he can jump up into anything! Please let me know. I know this has nothing to do with leukemia, but it does have to do with helping cats. Dotty - Freehold, NJ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats
If they are spayed and neutered and if you have a farm where barn cats are needed and cared for.not just dumped to fend for themselves...The receivers would have to understand relocation and the special needs of the relocated cats but they are available. On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:43 PM, dot winkler wrote: Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for the 7 cats i feed every day. They are all so beautiful and quite healthy looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food. At least 3 of them are very friendly and the others are coming around, too. Anyone have any input about how to place these cats? I hate to bring them to a shelter even if it's no kill. They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how long. It's very hard feeding every day. It's just me and my husband. We can never go away anywhere now because of it. What are your experiences? Dotty From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night. Because i would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one. One trip is to bring the meat to them. If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back and then another time that day to bring it in again. I live the next town over and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it is! Thanks for all your suggestions. What did you mean about the RAMP? I was not sure I understood. Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry food station and then open in the morning! L.O.L. dotty From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds don't get or drop. I also get possums coming for the seed. They both come to the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water for the birds. They come all during the day, especially the young ones who have just been weaned. When they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming back. Maybe try moving the food to a different location, confuse them? Coons are smart, scheming little kids. I had one that sekt stealing the bait out of a trap, so I watched all night and caught her. She entered the trap, sucked in her stomachso she would not trip the door and reached across the trip plate, took the food and backed out. Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the trap and in the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap. Big Momma, another (35lbs) kept getting in my seed can. She would open it and let the babies in to eat. Tried using straps from pick up. She chewed thru them. Brought it inside and she tried to turn the door handle so she could get in to it. Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too. I will ask Perk (an old timer round here who used to hunt them) maybe he can come up with something. Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and once the cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food at night. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION They are and they are a royal pain. On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote: I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in a different place putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the ferals during the day the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons are nocturnal like opossums Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder? I am feeding 7 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating
Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
Possums don't bother me but the coons do. I have trapped and relocated both (not during baby season) because they were raiding my mother's house, threatening her ferals and endangering themselves thanks to the problems they were causing neighbors. They were relocated to a farm I own. I brought the coons over immediately because they were vicious and very likely to hurt themselves trying to escape (can't blame them). They get/carry a lot of diseases including canine distemper which makes people think they are rabid when they are not but they do carry rabies. As noted, they can easily kill cats and dogs, even hunting (read fairly large dogs). They are extremely messy and destructive and can get into about anything. I know, and knew, from personal experience but was not willing to turn the captives over to hunters or to locate them where there wasn't an appropriate environment. Possums will defend themselves if they have to but are fairly calm...again from personal experience. They are wonderful at insect control and I have watched them under the porch lights on the farm...inhaling the insects. Just FYI: The coons are very cute and charming.not so much with the possums but they are actually darlings in my world. On Jun 1, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Natalie wrote: Whenever someone dumps a cat around here, I always see them eating together with possums - it's amazing. The first time I saw it, I was really terrified for the cat! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION cats and possums getting along. That was one worry I had about feeding the birds, that the cats could be hurt by them. So far, all my cats have enough good sense to back off when they and the coons come up to eat. Somehow they seem to know they could not win a fight with either one of them. Coons can kill a full grown dog, especially if they get them in enough water to hold their head down until the drown them. Dana Giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com wrote: I feed mine on the ground inside a bin which I have cut out the sides of so they can pass through. I lean boards up Against the sides. It's low perfect for a cat and opossums but apparently too low and awkward for a raccoon to get in there. I put a large deep square plastic food bin inside and a piece of styrofoam on the floor inside to wedge the food bin into one place. Opossums and cats get along fine so I let them share. My main issues end up being ants and slugs which I use food grade diacetemous earth and sandpaper to deter. I also have a rope light out there - dunno if that deters so wanted to mention it. Hope that helps. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats
In what area are you living? Are they spayed/neutered? Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for the 7 cats i feed every day. They are all so beautiful and quite healthy looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food. At least 3 of them are very friendly and the others are coming around, too. Anyone have any input about how to place these cats? I hate to bring them to a shelter even if it's no kill. They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how long. It's very hard feeding every day. It's just me and my husband. We can never go away anywhere now because of it. What are your experiences? Dotty _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night. Because i would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one. One trip is to bring the meat to them. If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back and then another time that day to bring it in again. I live the next town over and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it is! Thanks for all your suggestions. What did you mean about the RAMP? I was not sure I understood. Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry food station and then open in the morning! L.O.L. dotty _ From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds don't get or drop. I also get possums coming for the seed. They both come to the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water for the birds. They come all during the day, especially the young ones who have just been weaned. When they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming back. Maybe try moving the food to a different location, confuse them? Coons are smart, scheming little kids. I had one that sekt stealing the bait out of a trap, so I watched all night and caught her. She entered the trap, sucked in her stomachso she would not trip the door and reached across the trip plate, took the food and backed out. Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the trap and in the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap. Big Momma, another (35lbs) kept getting in my seed can. She would open it and let the babies in to eat. Tried using straps from pick up. She chewed thru them. Brought it inside and she tried to turn the door handle so she could get in to it. Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too. I will ask Perk (an old timer round here who used to hunt them) maybe he can come up with something. Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and once the cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food at night. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION They are and they are a royal pain. On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote: I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in a different place putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the ferals during the day the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons are nocturnal like opossums Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder? I am feeding 7 outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats
I was going to suggest a ramp, but alas, the coons could also use it. RE: taking them to a no kill shelter, if it is like the ones around here, they are not able to take on any more dogs or cats. Everyone who has lost ajob, home and has to move in with relatives, brings their animals to the shelter. You are right, they would have to spend some time there especially if they are not socialized. That takes time and that means time in cages. I took 2 from P.A.L.S.. I had gone to see about 1 cat and ended up with both Lil Bit and Casey. They had been in an 8 x 10 cage with about 6 or 8 other cats for over a year. Lil Bit is just now moving around the house because she is so small (6lbs) and timid and Casey is getting used to NOT being allowed to bully everyone. I just wish people would bring a short letter giving information about their pets so the adopter would understand why they are the way they are. Often they are misunderstood and end up back at the shelter because people do not have the patience to try to understand them dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for the 7 cats i feed every day. They are all so beautiful and quite healthy looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food. At least 3 of them are very friendly and the others are coming around, too. Anyone have any input about how to place these cats? I hate to bring them to a shelter even if it's no kill. They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how long. It's very hard feeding every day. It's just me and my husband. We can never go away anywhere now because of it. What are your experiences? Dotty From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION Hi - well, I don't think I can bring the dry food in at night. Because i would have to make two trips to the cat area, instead of one. One trip is to bring the meat to them. If I did that in the evening then I could bring in the dry food but then i would have to come the next morning to put the dry food back and then another time that day to bring it in again. I live the next town over and work schedule is rough so once a day is pushing it as it is! Thanks for all your suggestions. What did you mean about the RAMP? I was not sure I understood. Just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if I could devise a door that would shut automatically each night so nothing could get in the dry food station and then open in the morning! L.O.L. dotty From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION I feed the birds, so I also feed raccoons since they clean up what the birds don't get or drop. I also get possums coming for the seed. They both come to the feeders especially during a dry spell because I also put out water for the birds. They come all during the day, especially the young ones who have just been weaned. When they find an easy source of food, they will keep coming back. Maybe try moving the food to a different location, confuse them? Coons are smart, scheming little kids. I had one that sekt stealing the bait out of a trap, so I watched all night and caught her. She entered the trap, sucked in her stomachso she would not trip the door and reached across the trip plate, took the food and backed out. Next night, I wired the bait to the floor of the trap and in the struggle to get it, she sprung the trap. Big Momma, another (35lbs) kept getting in my seed can. She would open it and let the babies in to eat. Tried using straps from pick up. She chewed thru them. Brought it inside and she tried to turn the door handle so she could get in to it. Maybe you cold make a ramp - no, coons would jucst use it too. I will ask Perk (an old timer round here who used to hunt them) maybe he can come up with something. Have you thought of bringing the dry food in at night and once the cats got used to the feeding schedule, they would not come for food at night. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Yes, raccoons are mostly nocturnal, but when they have young ones, they can also be seen during the day, looking for more food. This makes many people call ACOs when they see raccoons during the day, wrongly assuming that there's something wrong with them, like rabies, distemper. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION They are and
Re: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO]
Guess that is why I could never shoot one of them. Can't get past those eyes. Same with any animal, they look at you with those adorable eyes and I guess I will just eat berries and vegies. Have to be awfully hungry to kill one, then I couldn't eat it so why bother killing it. Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: OMG, is the the cutest video EVER :) LOVE when he is eating popcorn on the couch :) Our house backs up to a forest reserve so we have many many raccoons that we feed in the backyard :) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:53:36 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] Everyone, speaking of raccoons……adorable video! Check out an orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO]
I sent it on to a friend and her 2 grandsons and a couple of others. This is adoreable Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I think I just melted. Absolutely adorable. Guess he had to rescue the little rascal. Not to say that I promote making pets of wildlife, but raccoons sometimes do get domesticated, especially when they are young. And there's a ferret involved for company. Nice man. Doesn't mind the messy way his Coon Kid eats popcorn. From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 2:53 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] Everyone, speaking of raccoons……adorable video! Check out an orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/placing the stray cats
They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how long. I always pipe up when somebody says that cats sit in cages at shelter/in jail, etc..well that is true of kill shelters and some no-kills. And BTW not all open policy shelters put the cat in the cage and leave it there. No-kills specially know very well that an animal can't live in a cage. I don't work at a shelter but am close friends with a nk and several HS's. Cats don't do well in cages for an extended period of time. While medicating and being socialized, acclimated and other changes, yes, they have to be. But it is dangerous actually to hold animals in cages b/c of stress which leads to disease. They know that or should know it. Depending on room cats are taken out of the cages and let roam in rooms, ussualy are in for the night. At the no-kill the only cats in cages are sick ones or baby kittens. Even fractious cats they separate in groups in small rooms. For instance one year ago the nk shelter took one of my rescue cats, she was tame but has a very short fuse. She was in a cage during quarantine(10 days) and that was it. Afterwards shared a room with one cat she could bear, doesn't like much other cats. She'd swipe at people too so she needed an understanding owner, finally last week that family showed up and she was adopted. In your situation I'd ask a no-kill shelter, true most are full but you never know. Unless you wish to keep all the cats, which probably for them is the best alternative. Where are you at? Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ I was going to suggest a ramp, but alas, the coons could also use it. RE: taking them to a no kill shelter, if it is like the ones around here, they are not able to take on any more dogs or cats. Everyone who has lost ajob, home and has to move in with relatives, brings their animals to the shelter. You are right, they would have to spend some time there especially if they are not socialized. That takes time and that means time in cages. I took 2 from P.A.L.S.. I had gone to see about 1 cat and ended up with both Lil Bit and Casey. They had been in an 8 x 10 cage with about 6 or 8 other cats for over a year. Lil Bit is just now moving around the house because she is so small (6lbs) and timid and Casey is getting used to NOT being allowed to bully everyone. I just wish people would bring a short letter giving information about their pets so the adopter would understand why they are the way they are. Often they are misunderstood and end up back at the shelter because people do not have the patience to try to understand them dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking of all this about the raccoon, anyways, wish I could find homes for the 7 cats i feed every day. They are all so beautiful and quite healthy looking with all the meat i feed them and the dry food. At least 3 of them are very friendly and the others are coming around, too. Anyone have any input about how to place these cats? I hate to bring them to a shelter even if it's no kill. They will just sit in a cage until they get adopted for god knows how long. It's very hard feeding every day. It's just me and my husband. We can never go away anywhere now because of it. What are your experiences? Dotty ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
