Taking My Deceased Wife's Name Off the Felvtal List:
nbsp; Please remove my wife's name from the felvtalk e-mailing addresses. nbsp; My wife passed away about three weeks ago.nbsp; She really appreciated being on your e-mail list, but to be quite honest with you I just get upset when I receive felvtalknbsp;e-mails.nbsp; I still have my two little furry feline buddies that are experiencing with me the process of grieving.nbsp; I need to spend time with them and they need to spend time with me.nbsp; I hope you understand and sometime in the future I might rejoin the group. nbsp; Thanks in Advance, nbsp; David L. Siders Husband of the late Sharon Siders nbsp; ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Beeper Swallowed Nylon
We looked everywhere for that string and could not find it. You're right about the nerves.If you remember I lost two kitties to Felv, I can't bear the thought of losing another to something I could have prevented.SharonNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sharon,You must be so nervous waiting and watching to see if there are any complications with that darn string! Someone on the list just went through a nasty episode with dental floss. I'm trying to remember who that was and what they did. I do remember a visit to the vet. I'll try to look through the archives and see what I come up with. Are you sure that he didn't chew off just the 4" and the rest is laying around on the floor somewhere?NinaSharon Siders wrote: Beeper swallowed about 12" of nylon string from one of his toys. Has passed by way of a bowel movement about 4". Have called the emergency vet in Verona, Va. and was informed that if Beep's appetite remains good; he continues to drink water; he continues to go to the bathroom, everything should work itself out of his system. If anyone out there that has had a similar experience, please let me know of any details; e.g., any other thing for which I should be aware and/or for which I should look!! Please let me know. Sharon Siders Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
Re: Beeper Swallowed Nylon
I really think it was just 4" passed so far. That stuff is pretty stiff, unlike dental floss.I hate waiting until he is in real distress, but I don't know that taking him to the vet now would help. I'm tempted to call Cornell's veterinary school for advice. I don't know why I think that would help, but doing nothing seems wrong.Thanks.Sharon[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went through this a while back with my Shakiti. He ate about a foot of dental floss.We werelucky in that I saw him just as he did it so I took him to the vet right away. They gave him something to make it come back up but it took almost all day. The poor thing didn't want to eat at all for a couple of daysafter that but I finger fed him the A/D. If he's already passed some of it then this probably wouldn't be an option.I'd watch him carefully. I would take him back to the vet's at any sign of pain or discomfort. The fact that he's passed some of it is a good sign...i know this is gross - but could it have really been more than 4"? When Shakiti barfed up the dental floss it looked like only a few inches until we stretched it out. I know very well this is not a fun thing to go through. I hope so much that Beeper will be ok.elizabethIn a message dated 10/22/2006 11:10:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sharon,You must be so nervous waiting and watching to see if there are any complications with that darn string! Someone on the list just went through a nasty episode with dental floss. I'm trying to remember who that was and what they did. I do remember a visit to the vet. I'll try to look through the archives and see what I come up with. Are you sure that he didn't chew off just the 4" and the rest is laying around on the floor somewhere?NinaSharon Siders wrote: Beeper swallowed about 12" of nylon string from one of his toys. Has passed by way of a bowel movement about 4". Have called the emergency vet in Verona, Va. and was informed that if Beep's appetite remains good; he continues to drink water; he continues to go to the bathroom, everything should work itself out of his system. If anyone out there that has had a similar experience, please let me know of any details; e.g., any other thing for which I should be aware and/or for which I should look!! Please let me know. Sharon Siders Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: Beeper Swallowed Nylon
Thanks again.Sharon[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh - another thing...if he passes part of the string and it doesn't come out all the way -- don't pull on it. That could do some damage.elizabethIn a message dated 10/22/2006 11:10:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sharon,You must be so nervous waiting and watching to see if there are any complications with that darn string! Someone on the list just went through a nasty episode with dental floss. I'm trying to remember who that was and what they did. I do remember a visit to the vet. I'll try to look through the archives and see what I come up with. Are you sure that he didn't chew off just the 4" and the rest is laying around on the floor somewhere?NinaSharon Siders wrote: Beeper swallowed about 12" of nylon string from one of his toys. Has passed by way of a bowel movement about 4". Have called the emergency vet in Verona, Va. and was informed that if Beep's appetite remains good; he continues to drink water; he continues to go to the bathroom, everything should work itself out of his system. If anyone out there that has had a similar experience, please let me know of any details; e.g., any other thing for which I should be aware and/or for which I should look!! Please let me know. Sharon Siders If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. ~St. Francis Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: Beeper Swallowed Nylon
Thanks, Marilyn. It was Da Bird if you are familiar with that. I couldn't believe he would eat that, buthe sure did.I'll give him somehairball med. SharonMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask your vet about lots of Petlax/Petmalt (hair ball remedy). Mai Mai, a wonderful dog, ate then violently threw up some fabric. There were lots of problems but there is a lot of difference between string and the stuff Mai Mai ate. I would want to do everything I could to speed the passing of the string. What kind of toy was it any way? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message - From: Sharon Siders To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 3:59 PM Subject: Beeper Swallowed NylonBeeper swallowed about 12" of nylon string from one of his toys. Has passed by way of a bowel movement about 4". Have called the emergency vet in Verona, Va. and was informed that if Beep's appetite remains good; he continues to drink water; he continuesto go to the bathroom, everything should work itself out of his system.If anyone out there that has had a similar experience, please let me know of any details; e.g., any other thing for which I should be aware and/or for which I should look!! Please let me know. Sharon Siders All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! MessengerÂ’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: Texas vets, Suki's story, and the veterinary abuse network
That enrages me. I don't think I could have refrained from causing that man bodily injury. He deserves it.SharonTerri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:This is heartbreaking.Terri- Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:50 PM Subject: OT: Texas vets, Suki's story, and the veterinary abuse network Hi guys, I stumbled upon this website today and thought I wouldshare:http://www.vetabusenetwork.com/This story really spoke to me as I have a similar one,and my case against the veterinarian also wasdismissed the same way that Julie's was. I am all forveterinarians and think they are awesome people, butwe all know there are some veterinarians that at theleast should be cited for their negligence, if notforced to discontinue their practice. When basic careis not provided, it's time to hang up the stethoscope.Pass this on-it might help someone else or savesomeone's furbaby.:)Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
Re: Saying Goodbye
Allie,I'm so sorry you must part with Lola, but you must do what is best for her. Hugs,SharonAllie Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I took Lola in to get re-evaluated, regarless of the fact that she has been going downhill fast. The results of the second test and bloodpanel were not nice, especially with her emerging symptoms. The fluid in her chest is continuing to accumulate, she stopped eating (Ive been syringe feeding her a high-cal prescription diet), she is very anemic and very jaundiced. Her breathing has become very labored and she isn't really moving around much. After discussions with 2 vets and quite a few other sources of research (including this list), we've decided to help her over the bridge after we've had a chance to say goodbye. She has too many things off in her bloodwork, her red blood cells appear to be committing suicide, kidney enzymes are elevated, despite my efforts (pedialyte) to keep her hydrated and her liver enzymes are high despite my efforts to keep her fed (Hill's a/d). She is so weak, and since she is a just a kitten, who was born with the disease, it looks highly unlikely that aggressive treatment would do anything except buy her a little time. I think I'm at peace with my decision. I had plans to take a foster in this weekend, which I think I'll go through with since it will give me something to do and a place to direct all of my love. Plus, what better tribute to Lola than to save the life of another cat in need? I've requested that the foster be vaccinated against FeLV this once, just to be extra careful.Thanks, everyone.Allie Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
Re: Annie is gone
Tad, I am so sorry for you; it is so hard to lose a beloved kitty. They are all beloved even if some are not as affectionate, aren't they? Annie is now with all of the furangels. SharonTad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sadly I have to report another FeLV+ has passed on today...Annie was a beautiful calico with a white milk mustache...She came to live with me about a year and a half ago...She was a stray who was brought into a shelter in NJ...She had a huge gash in her side probably from a carbut she was healing well from that but she tested posand had to live in a cage with the dogs at the vets...The dogs didn't seem to bother her and she was friendlywith people and she was friendly with me until I broughther in the room with my other FeLV+ cats...She establishedher own corner with a window of her own and kept everyoneelse out...I gave her her own food and box there and shewould let me pat her if no one else was aroundAbout a month ago she stopped eating and we found shehad become anemic ...I put her in my isolation cage andput her on vitamins the vet gave us and got her eating AD..After a few days she seemed to be getting better and badlywanted out of the cage so I let her out...For a few days she was impossible to catch and didn't alwaysget her vitamins but soon she started to slide again and she waseasy to catch and medicate and we started seringe feeding...She took that easily and we had her gaining weight again...In the process she was spending more and more time on mybed where the rest of the cats all hang out and soon my feralcat who won't let me pat her but was very quick to make friendswith the other cats was able to snuggle with AnnieThe best thing of this is now the feral cat has suddenly decidedit is OK to be touched by humans and she even let me pick herup for a minute without strugglingI have been following Wendy and Cricket as it has been so closeto Annie...Yesterday she was too weak to make it to her litter boxeven though I had placed it up level with the bed for her...This washer first accidentI was struggling with the same thought of if Ishould PTS but she seemed to rest comfortably and took theseringe feedings fairly well...We had gone to smaller feedings moreoftenI was so happy when Wendy decided to try the feeding tubeyesterday as I was looking to Wendy for guidance But then itwas so very sad to here this morning that Cricket had passed duringthe nightAnnie ate well for a bit but then stopped swallowing andthen again the next feeding she didn't want to take anythingShortly after that she was resting on my stomach as I patted herand she let out a cry and then I noticed that she had stopped breathing...It was over...I believe she was comfortable and new she was lovedright up to the end...Some are very close all their life and others. like Anie its just at the endbut it doesn't make it any easier to say good buy.Michelle said it all.." But it does not get easier, as far as I can tell. Just less surprising."I will miss you sweet Annie and I hope we do get to meet againTad Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: Cricket
Wendy, I don't post much anymore, since I lost my last FeLV kitty two years ago. I still care deeply about all of you and your kitties though. Please know that my heart goes out to you for we can all relate to what you are feeling. Sharonwendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone,I just wanted to let you know that Cricket passed awaylast night about 2:42 am Texas time. I am pretty tornup right now. I feel like such a dork because Icarried his collar to work with me today. He had thefeeding tube procedure done, but was just so anemic,that after the procedure, he couldn't get his breath. For most of the night, I thought he was just having ahard time coming out of the sedation (gas) because henever really did and was having problems breathing,but the vet said his trachea probably got irritatedfrom the procedure, and that he should be fine later. He slept right next to me last night and about 2:20 hewoke me up trying to cry, and I picked him up and tookhim to the living room because I knew something wasn'tright. He died about 20 minutes later. I have askedGod countless times to let me be there when Cricketpassed so that he wouldn't be as scared or lonely(like he would be if I was at work and died). Godhonored that request, thankfully, but it was stillvery hard. My husband, nephew, and I will have alittle ceremony this afternoon for him. I am gladthat he is not in pain or weak or suffering and I knowthat I did just about everything humanly andfinancially possible, but it doesn't help. At leastnot right now. I am going to write him a littletribute to bury with him. He was such a wonderfulcompanion. I will send a pic out of him later when Iget home. Thank all of you SO much for helping me andCricket through these last three and a half weeks. Your kindness is immeasurable, and I plan to stickaround and help out anyone else I can even though Idon't have anymore FeLV (that I know of-I need to havemy other two retested). God Bless each and every oneof you.:)Wendy__ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: Andy is gone
Jamie, I am so sorry that you had to endure this awful thing; it hurts so much to let go. You captured the essence of Andy in your never agains; he was special and will always be a part of your life. SharonJamie Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all of you who took the time to respond about Andy. I do appreciate it. Barb, Sharon, Yvonne, Terrie, Belinda and anyone else I may have missed- it was good to hear from you again. To the others- it was good to "meet" you for the first time. I did take him to the vet first thing this morning. Dr. Caldwell was in surgery so I saw Dr. Baxter instead. Also a very nice man. Every person in that place has just been wonderful! He looked at Andy's chart and said he hoped I didn't think of them as "bad" since my very first experience there has been this ordeal with my baby boy. Anyway, he was very straight forward and said while he wanted to commend me on an outstanding job taking care of a Felv+ cat for this long, that there was not much he could do and that this was the beginning of the end. Whatever was going on had his insides in shreds. The vet said even if I WANTED him to run tests, he was 99% sure that Andy would not come out of the sedation in that state. Barb- it was so strange. He held up Andy's face so we were eye to eye and said "Mrs. Laws, tell me, do you really see Andy there anymore?" And the answer was no. So I started bawling and babbling about how I didn't warn my husband that this was a possibility this morning and he just went to work without saying goodbye. I mean I was a crying freak and I just met the man! So he gave me a small TOWEL and said I was not having a "Kleenex cry" so to take a towel. Then he told me we were not making the call right now, and not like that. He gave him a bag of fluids and a shot of Prednisone and told me to talk to my husband first. I went back to work, then came and got Andy at lunch. I took him home and spent the afternoon with him. He pooped blood all over himself TWICE. The second time I was washing him off in the sink and he had one of his episodes (Dr. Baxter said these were probably small strokes rather than seizures). But this time it lasted a long, long time. He quit breathing and went limp in my arms. No noise, no chest movement. He was gone. So I laid him on the floor on the towel and my phone rang,it was my husband. So I was hysterical telling him Andy just died in my arms and I was freaking out. Right then, Andy let out this gaspy, panting type breath and started convulsing. Then he just kind of sat up alittle bit like nothing happened! But he was dead I tell you. So then I really freaked out and said "he's not dead!" I mean screaming it. So Abe (husband) asked whatfreeway the newvet was off of since he was on his way home. I told himwhereit was and hejust said "I am meeting you there right now." So I knew. I was not going to keep him through the night to spend a little more time together. That was it. He was suffering and I was thinking ofwhat I needed to be okay and not Andy. I wrappedhim in a towel and drove to the vet. I called first and again, just crying into the phone I managed to get out "I had my cat in there this morning and..." that's all I could get out. The poor girl who answered said "I'm so sorry Jamie, wewill see you in a minute." She knew my name and I hadn't even mentioned the cat's name. Guess I was the only bawling woman in with a cattoday. Anyway, I managed to choke out "but you close in 15 minutes." She just said "we'll be here."It was so wonderful to be treated with compassion. My old vet would have said "well ER hours start in 15 minutes so just be prepared to pay double." Anyway, I met Abe there and Dr. Baxter took us back to the treatment area. Andy laid on the table very still and I petting him and kissed his little face as the vet gave him the injection. I have never witnessedananimal bing PTSin real life. I'm sorry if this is all too graphic but it helps me to get it out. I was surprised that his eyes didn't close and nothing changed. I didn't realize he was gone until the vet said "ok, his heart stopped." Then I lost it.The "never agains"hit me like a ton of bricks. He will never do his cold nose bumping and tiny front teeth nipping on my husband's inner arm trying to get him to pet him. He will never serve as my "fun police" when I want my great dane to stop bringing his toy to me. I would just lay it on the coffee table right next to Andy who was always ready with his right hook. That kept Apollo in check. He would NOT go for that toy if Andy was sitting by it. :) I will never again have my soft little lap warmer as I sit at my computer. I will never. There are millions of those and I think that's the worst part. I guess the bright spot is I think I found a new vet. Their office visits seem really high to me, but they were just so wonderful to me. After it was done, the vet and the tech both said to justgo on out the front since they saw me getting my wallet
Re: Ive lost her.....
Lisa, I wish with all my heart that no one ever had to endure this pain. Does the time together make up for the pain of separation? Eventually, it does. It seems to take a long time to get to that point though. You and Akira were a great team. I am amazed at what my cats have taught me about grace and dignity; god sends them to teach, I think. Hugs to you, Sharon[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She's gone..Akira crossed over on May 18th at 9:30 amShe fought so hard to stayI fought so hard for her...this is so hard..let me start from the beggining. I found her May of 2001, as a little angel in disquiseshe was under a car, in the rain, soaking wet, at my work.on a cold day.My assistant manager acutally found her adn came running back in.. "Lisa there's a kitten under a car...come quick" So I grabbed a can of kitty food and ran outside...she was so tiny! and WOA was she full of spunk..even as bad off as she was...she uttered one little valiant hiss at usthen she smeeled the food..adn forgot she was afraid..We wrapped her up in my sweater adn ran inside the store..at which point she decided to start SCREAMING at us...(needless to say we got some strange looks from customers) Once I had her settled in a little box..I realized how bad off she wasonly weighing 1 lb (mabey a bit more) and she looked to be about 4 months oldshe was SICK..her eyes sealed shut with gunk, something had attacked her...picked her right up..she had scratches on one side and a abcess on the othershe ate an entire cann of Friskiesafter she was done ..this little tiny soul...who more than likely had never known a kind human..or one at allwas begging to be petted..she would jsut purr, and purr, and purr..you would have never thought a sound so deafening could come out of such a little body..then 3 days later my heart sank..we found she was FeLV +... I was so scared and torn..she had touched my heart so much...just in those 3 days.I decided to try and save her...and I did...she fought so hard..put up with me poking and proding her, shoving God knows what down her throat to get meds,and extra nurishment into her...we were fighting alot...she had FeLV, was anemic very badly, had worms, a kitten flu, and URI, an abcess on her side...it took a whole 3 days for her to even have a bowl or urine movement at all..her body absorbed everythingand she took it..with out so much as a complaint...she was so strong...on her check up her blood values were better and she had gained 2 lbs..in a WEEK.we were on the roadbut still I had to figure out how to beat this FeLV..I didn't know what it was.So I got on line..and everything I found was so disheartening..tehn I found this ONE LONE SITEthe FeLV siteand it changed mine..and her lifeI got the Interferon, researched supplements, you name it..she got it...and she kept growing and growing.and getting more and more spunky..this little girl had life in her.How would she handle the dogs Hum...well that didn't go over very well (mabey a dog attacked her???) more work to do..she had to be able to get along with them..adn not stress herself outso we worked,and slowly but surely she was ok...adn tehn even liked the dogs..and would play with my mini dachshund Lancelot...they would play "hide and go pounce" which in their terms was taking turns chasing each other around teh house..(and let me tell you...it is awful funny to see a 10 dog run by with a 4 lb kitten on his tail..with her tail up in the air..in hot pursuit)...then she would jump onto a chair..adn he would be looking all over for her with no luck..when she would POUNCE on top of him..and off they would go again...for hours!!! She had such a love for life she slept with us every day...every night before bed and every morning before we got up we would play "cover monsters" where she would attack the evil moving thing under the coversthen in came her kitty brotherwho we trapped feral, fearing he was related to her..as similar as they were...and that he too would have this awful disease..well he didn't ..YEA..but what to do now..more researchwe let them live togeather..SHE HATED HIM..absloutly loathed him..she would hiss and attack (a whole nother side of my "angel" I had never seen ) Indy...bless his heart just kept insisiting she like him though...he took her abuse and purred and cued back to herhow could he have not won her over? Then one summer we got a chance to got to the outer banks of NC for vacationfor free..couldn't pass that up...but what about Akira..couldn't trust anyone to care for her...to make sure she got the perfect balance of supplements...so she came with us on a 8 hr drive and a 3 hr ferry ride...and she was a champ..slept in my lap the whole time...adn once we got to the house..she of course hidin a closet..but soon she was out and about..exploringalways exploring...that's when I
Re: Remember me?
I remember you well, Jamie. I am so sorry that Andy is now sick. It truly does suck when a kitty gets that sick. From the perspective of one who "tried everything" with two cats, I think it might be time to let him go. Unless you can find out for sure what the problem is, there is not much that can be done. Franklin did well for six months on chemo, but we knew what he had; he is the cat that I did not feel we did right by. We treated him for as long as the chemo worked but let him go when it stopped. I know how hard it is to let go. Hugs, SharonJamie Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. I was reading the archives and saw some familiar names so maybe some of you remember me. I was subscribed under my old email so "andyandmouse" may sound more familiar. Anyway, my name is Jamie and my Felv positive boy is Andy. I was an active member of the List (and used toadminister the emergency fund)from about 1999 to maybe 2003 so I have been gone a while. As is normally the case, it is bad news that brings me back. As a refresher, Andy tested positive on Elisa in May 1999 andIFA in April 2000. Other than a quickly treated bout of Hemobartinella in the summer of 1999, he has been symptom free. Until recently. So, I noticed that he was getting gradually thinner about 6 months ago. He was still eating fine and his "potty habits" were normal so I didn't worry too much. But then he started throwing up that foamy white stuff every single day. Never food, just foam. So the vet had me feed him a little bit of canned food (to guarantee he'd eat) first thing in the morning and in the evening. The thought was maybe it was stomach acid. Well it didn't help. Then he started throwing up a little bit of food. Not eating a bunch, then throwing it all back up, but he would vomit up SOME of what he ate a few hours later. So back to the vet we went- about 6 weeks ago. This time it was a new vet at the clinic (bought out the practice- long story!). So he was pretty much telling me it was cancer. Blood work (CBC only)and x-rays (abdominal and chest)showed nothing at all. NOTHING. So the woman vet who was there when I picked him up acted like that was a GOOD sign but the man vet told me on the phone it was a BAD sign b/c it didn't rule IN anything else. And of course lymphoma is not 100% detectable without biopsy. At this point, I really don't think Andy is strong enough to be sedated to even HAVE a biopsy! But she put him on Prednisone, which I had my serious doubts about, but tried it. It did seem to help him out, but of course that's what Pred does. Then you pay the piper so to speak for that quick fix. That brings us to right now. He was looking worse and worse so I took him to an entirely new vet practice last Tuesday. She did not want to do more x-rays or blood work on him right now b/c he does need sedation to draw blood and she was afraid to even use the gas on him right now. To put it in perspective, Andy is normally about 12-14 pounds. He is a big cat anyway. On Tuesday he weighed just over 7 pounds. He is a rack of bones. Ok, I had been giving him baby food at night to fatten him up but ran out on Sunday night. At that time he DID eat on hisown. I can't recall actually witnessing him eatafter that point. But Tuesday evening he would not eat and would not drink water. This is a cat who sits by my dogs andbegs while I cook. My other 2 don't do that.And he eats ANYTHING so it's a big deal to me that he won't eat. Heacted interested, like sniffingand stuff, but would not eat. I triedwarming up tuna fish, baby food, A/D, milk, kitten replacement milk, cream sauce from dinner the night before. You name it. NADA. So I syringe fed him baby food and water. That did stay down but he didn't putup much of a fight which is odd. She has him on Metronidazole in the morning and Barium at night. I just syringe that down him to coat his stomach. I like her because she said "there is no medical reason why that shouldhelp, but sometimes it does so we'll try it." I mean I like that b/c she is willing to try things that are off the beaten path.We discussed perhaps trying Immunoregulin but she wanted to doone thing at a time. But it's been 5 days and he is no different. He just sits in the closet or under the bed doing that shallow breathing. And he growls at me when I walk in the room now b/c he knows I amgoing to force feed him or medicate him and that KILLS me. On top of that, I think he is having seizures.When he gets real worked up he does this throaty growl and just goes limp. His head flops down and his jaw isclamped shut and allof his limbs go right out in front of him totally stiff. Then he sort of snaps out of it and looks around confused. So I don't know what's up with that. I just keep waiting for a sign to let him go. I told my husband today that if it were someone else's cat I would be telling them toput it out of it's misery, but I can't be objective here. I keep thinking I can try just onemore thing. She said the Pred
Re: Brissle is gone...
Kyle, I am truly sorry for your loss. It is hard to go through that pain. Brissle will always have a piece of your heart. SharonMelbeach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The day I've been dreading finally came. Last night Brissle left me. It got tothe point where she couldn't move on her own. I thought about another bloodtransfusion. But I just didn't have the heart to put her through anothercycle. We already made our peace. I made it a point the last couple of days tospend every minute with her. I think she was hanging on just for me. So nowit's just me and Squermie. I think he's finally starting to figure it out.It's hard, but I'm trying to stay positive. I am eternally grateful to all ofyou on Felvtalk for your caring support. You guys really are the best.-Kyle__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Hairball Remedies?
Do you mix the pumpkin with canned food? SharonCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried canned Pumpkin that helps both ends, Iams has a special cat food for hairballs, that seems to work well, try those out. Cherie Sharon Siders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that someone here is going to have a great suggestion for hairballs. Carolina will not take the standard tube stuff like Petromalt. BP loves it; she hates it. Of course, she is the one with a big shedding problem. In fact, I think her throwing up may be linked to trying to rid herself of gobs of hair in her gut. What elsemight I do? Thanks as always. Sharon __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
Re: Hairball Remedies?
Hadn't thought of that. I tried smearing it on her mouth and she shook off the stuff. Sharon[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that don't like it I smear it on their front legs. Most cats don't like their feet dirty so this is a way to get them to eat the meds off their feet. I have a few that I do this to and it works. My Vets have suggested the same thing already beat them to the punchline on this ordeal...lol In a message dated 5/1/2005 6:22:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know that someone here is going to have a great suggestion for hairballs. Carolina will not take the standard tube stuff like Petromalt. BP loves it; she hates it. Of course, she is the one with a big shedding problem. In fact, I think her throwing up may be linked to trying to rid herself of gobs of hair in her gut. What elsemight I do? Thanks as always. Sharon Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com image/jpegimage/jpeg
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Nina, I'll try mixing it with some baby food. She is a picky eater but might like baby food. SharonNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sharon,We just had a discussion about alternative treatments for hairballs. I seem to remember someone mentioning butter... adding olive oil or flax seed oil (?), maybe salmon oil would work as well? Jazzy used to have trouble with hairballs and didn't like Petromalt either. I used to sneak it into some baby food to get her to eat it. It worked like a charm. I put it on her front foot (as suggested on the label), to get her to lick it off, she went ballistic! NinaSharon Siders wrote: I know that someone here is going to have a great suggestion for hairballs. Carolina will not take the standard tube stuff like Petromalt. BP loves it; she hates it. Of course, she is the one with a big shedding problem. In fact, I think her throwing up may be linked to trying to rid herself of gobs of hair in her gut. What else might I do? Thanks as always. Sharon __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hadn't heard of Laxastat. Thanks. Sahron[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Patches likes tuna-flavored Laxastat, which is another version of Petromalt.MichelleIn a message dated 5/1/05 9:22:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know that someone here is going to have a great suggestion for hairballs. Carolina will not take the standard tube stuff like Petromalt. BP loves it; she hates it. Of course, she is the one with a big shedding problem. In fact, I think her throwing up may be linked to trying to rid herself of gobs of hair in her gut. What else might I do?Thanks as always.Sharon__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Help! Vaccine Reaction?
Thanks so much, Sally. Some vaccination seems necessary, but I agree that it can be overdone. I don't intend to vaccinate again for at least three years, if then. The vet agrees on the three years. Sharon[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sharon:My most sincere condolences for the loss of your mom. Even though we are able to talk to our human loved ones and express all that we feel a need to share while they are still here with us in corporeal form (unlike with our furkids), it still leaves emptiness and emotional pain when we have to let them go. We humans have such a need for that which we can see and touch. You will find that she is still with you in many intangible ways, though I know right now that may not seem like much comfort. Having feline furkids can be very comforting at a time like this...they are close to their spiritual nature and sponges for our emotions.With regard to vaccine reactions, the fact that many kittys do react negatively to them should tell us something. Vaccines are a significant stress to the immune system and especially the way they are usually given (too often and in multiple combinations). Most holistic vets do not recommend the widespread use of vaccines, and certainly not given as yearly boosters. One needs to assess the risks vs. any real benefit...such as sacrificing long-term health for short-term disease prevention. What is the liklihood of exposure? Is it a life-threatening illness you are seeking to prevent? Or, is there a law mandating it?If one finds it absolutely necessary to give vaccines to his/her furkids, things that can help to minimize negative reactions would be:1) Use only single-valent vaccines;2) Administer an immune booster such as Transfer Factor for 2-3 days prior to vaccinating, and 2-3 days after.3) Give a dose of homeopathic Thuja in conjunction with the vaccine to help override any toxic effect.The second recommendation comes from Dr. J. Lauren De Rock, a holistic vet in Aromas, CA, who introduced me to the benefits and use of Transfer Factor therapy. She said she has not experienced any negative reactions to vaccines since she began using that protocol. The first and third recommendations come from the holistic vet Dr. Martin Goldstein (author of The Nature of Animal Healing) and also Dr. Don Hamilton (author of Homeopathic Care for Cats and Dogs). There is a thorough discussion of the dubious legacy of vaccines in both their books.I do hope your Carolina will rebound and be back to her usual self with no long-lasting ill effects. For any cats who have a significantly negative reaction to vaccines, I would think twice before re-vaccinating. Humans do not need to have yearly boosters for every thing under the sun after being initially innoculated (only periodic boosters for tetanus, which is a toxin and not a virus) and a wiser approach would be to do titer testing to determine whether or not re-vaccination is really necessary when faced with a real risk of exposure.Sally in San Jose__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?
Scary, isn't it? My trust level for both vets and doctors is not very high anymore; I sometimes think the Internet groups know more than they do. At least, we have a wide range of info. Sharon[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't surprize me that anyone in this group would have a better idea than some vets that I know!CarlaDate sent: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT)From: Sharon Siders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgCopies to: Subject: Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Carla, Gloria suggested something. She might be better than the vet, eh? Sharon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the vet can give you something for her with out seeing her? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Terri, Thank you for understanding. Losing any of our loved ones is tough. Hugs are appreciated. SharonTerri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon, I'm so sorry about your mom. I lost my mother in 1998, and I understand how difficult it is. Big hugs to you and your family. =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Sharon Siders To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:21 PM Subject: Help! Vaccine Reaction? Hi! I haven't posted in a long time as I have no FELV+ kitties anymore and I have been caring for my mother. Mom passed away on March 20 after a battle with colon cancer. I took my two cats to the vet today for check-ups and vaccinations. Carolina seems to be feeling ill tonight. She had not had any vaccines in 3 years; she got them today along with a deworming pill. The pill was precautionary as she had vomited undigested food a few times in the last couple of weeks. She checked out okay as far as temperature, etc. She had been fine, but she is lethargic and just vomited a little bit of foam. Anyone know ifshe might be reacting badly to the vaccine or deworming pill? I'm panicking a bit as I lost four cats in 3 years, two from FELV. My hubby thinks that taking cats to the vet makes them get sick and is worried about our pretty girl. Thanks for any info. Sharon __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Kerry, I appreciate your _expression_ of sympathy. Somehow, the thought of anything being wrong with Carolina sent me over the edge! I guess I'm hypersensitive right now. SharonKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon I'm coming in late. Just wanted to say I'm very sorry about your mom. That's really tough. I'm glad Carolinaseems better. It's always so scary when they seem to be acting differently, and such a huge relief when they bounce back! all best wishes, Kerry - Original Message - From: Sharon Siders To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Help! Vaccine Reaction? Nina, Carolina seems a liitle better this morning, so I guess I was being a silly mom. The deworming pill doesn't make much sense to me either. This is a young, freshly minted vet, which may explain it. She couldn't get much in the way of fecal material to test. Moving to a rural area from a large city has some disadvantages, one of them is health care for pets and people. It just isn't as good here. The advanced technology is not readily available as it was in Cleveland. That modern health care could not save any of my kitties though; it did keep them alive longer and more comfortably. Thanks for the info. SharonNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon,A lot of cats feel sick after vaccines, or deworming. Getting them together might easily have her feeling crummy. Add to that the stress of a vet visit and I wouldn't panic to much. I know saying that is easier than doing it. Keep a close watch on her, check her ear tips to see if they feel hot to you, and hopefully she'll feel like her old self tomorrow. If she gets any worse, or doesn't improve by tomorrow, you might want to call the vet and let them know what's going on, just to be on the safe side. Isn't nice to have a group of people to talk to that you KNOW will understand?P.S. Why would your vet think that vomiting undigested food warrants a precautionary deworming? Next time I'd have a fecal test done to check for parasites. Vomiting could indicate all sorts of things, I don't think I've ever heard it being indicative of worms though.NinaSharon Siders wrote: Hi! I haven't posted in a long time as I have no FELV+ kitties anymore and I have been caring for my mother. Mom passed away on March 20 after a battle with colon cancer. I took my two cats to the vet today for check-ups and vaccinations. Carolina seems to be feeling ill tonight. She had not had any vaccines in 3 years; she got them today along with a deworming pill. The pill was precautionary as she had vomited undigested food a few times in the last couple of weeks. She checked out okay as far as temperature, etc. She had been fine, but she is lethargic and just vomited a little bit of foam. Anyone know if she might be reacting badly to the vaccine or deworming pill? I'm panicking a bit as I lost four cats in 3 years, two from FELV. My hubby thinks that taking cats to the vet makes them get sick and is worried about our pretty girl. Thanks for any info. Sharon __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!?Make Yahoo! your home page __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Carolina seems to be returning to normal, but she could not jump onto the bathroom counter last night. That is totally out of the ordinary for her; she is the greatest leaper of any cat I've ever had. I'm hoping she is just sore from the shots, even though I don't see why subcutaneous injection would make you sore. Sharon__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Nina, Carolina seems a liitle better this morning, so I guess I was being a silly mom. The deworming pill doesn't make much sense to me either. This is a young, freshly minted vet, which may explain it. She couldn't get much in the way of fecal material to test. Moving to a rural area from a large city has some disadvantages, one of them is health care for pets and people. It just isn't as good here. The advanced technology is not readily available as it was in Cleveland. That modern health care could not save any of my kitties though; it did keep them alive longer and more comfortably. Thanks for the info. SharonNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon,A lot of cats feel sick after vaccines, or deworming. Getting them together might easily have her feeling crummy. Add to that the stress of a vet visit and I wouldn't panic to much. I know saying that is easier than doing it. Keep a close watch on her, check her ear tips to see if they feel hot to you, and hopefully she'll feel like her old self tomorrow. If she gets any worse, or doesn't improve by tomorrow, you might want to call the vet and let them know what's going on, just to be on the safe side. Isn't nice to have a group of people to talk to that you KNOW will understand?P.S. Why would your vet think that vomiting undigested food warrants a precautionary deworming? Next time I'd have a fecal test done to check for parasites. Vomiting could indicate all sorts of things, I don't think I've ever heard it being indicative of worms though.NinaSharon Siders wrote: Hi! I haven't posted in a long time as I have no FELV+ kitties anymore and I have been caring for my mother. Mom passed away on March 20 after a battle with colon cancer. I took my two cats to the vet today for check-ups and vaccinations. Carolina seems to be feeling ill tonight. She had not had any vaccines in 3 years; she got them today along with a deworming pill. The pill was precautionary as she had vomited undigested food a few times in the last couple of weeks. She checked out okay as far as temperature, etc. She had been fine, but she is lethargic and just vomited a little bit of foam. Anyone know if she might be reacting badly to the vaccine or deworming pill? I'm panicking a bit as I lost four cats in 3 years, two from FELV. My hubby thinks that taking cats to the vet makes them get sick and is worried about our pretty girl. Thanks for any info. Sharon __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page
Help! Vaccine Reaction?
Hi! I haven't posted in a long time as I have no FELV+ kitties anymore and I have been caring for my mother. Mom passed away on March 20 after a battle with colon cancer. I took my two cats to the vet today for check-ups and vaccinations. Carolina seems to be feeling ill tonight. She had not had any vaccines in 3 years; she got them today along with a deworming pill. The pill was precautionary as she had vomited undigested food a few times in the last couple of weeks. She checked out okay as far as temperature, etc. She had been fine, but she is lethargic and just vomited a little bit of foam. Anyone know ifshe might be reacting badly to the vaccine or deworming pill? I'm panicking a bit as I lost four cats in 3 years, two from FELV. My hubby thinks that taking cats to the vet makes them get sick and is worried about our pretty girl. Thanks for any info. Sharon__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
