Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

[longhornfans]

Amen, and don't buy expensive furniture either. It is replaceable. The effects 
of declawing are far worse than house items!
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Folks around here laugh because I stop and move turtles across the road so they 
won't get hit.  I even move snakes out of the way when working in the garden.  
Will admit that it is usually cool and they can't move too fast so copperheads, 
rattlers and spread heads get moved to the other side of the road out of harms 
way.I get frustrated with the raccoons because they can be so destructive, but 
they are cute so they are still around with the possums, deer, groundhog, 
squirrels and every other creature of the woods.  Got must have made them for a 
purpose.  I have always had dogs and cats for pets, even a ew chickens.


 Marcia  wrote: 
> My mom didn't like cats either, but I know where I came from. My gramma loved 
> dogs and cats and I spent a log of time with her. My Mom loved loved dogs, we 
> had 12 collies living with us, but NO CATS!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Lorrie  wrote:
> 
> > Edna, 
> > Can't say I blame you for not backing down on the declawing.  My mom
> > didn't even like cats enough to adopt one. I never figured out how
> > I became such an animal lover, because I was always dragging home
> > injured animals and Mom would say "Get that filthy thing out of here". 
> > If my mom saw how many cats I have now she'd turn over in her grave.
> > 
> > Lorrie
> > 
> > 
> > On 10-04, Edna Taylor wrote:
> >>   Lorrie,  I agree with you 100%.  My Mom has wanted to adopt several
> >>   kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her "NO" because
> >>   she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and
> >>   social as they were when they were kittens and I say "that's because
> >>   you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom".  That is one position
> >>   that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's
> >>   feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and
> >>   for what? furniture?  pppft.  Don't get me
> >>   wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did.  Declawing is
> >>   cruel and inhumane :(
> >> 
> >>   Edna
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Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

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Folks around here laugh because I stop and move turtles across the road so they 
won't get hit.  I even move snakes out of the way when working in the garden.  
Will admit that it is usually cool and they can't move too fast so copperheads, 
rattlers and spread heads get moved to the other side of the road out of harms 
way.I get frustrated with the raccoons because they can be so destructive, but 
they are cute so they are still around with the possums, deer, groundhog, 
squirrels and every other creature of the woods.  Got must have made them for a 
purpose.  I have always had dogs and cats for pets, even a ew chickens.


 Marcia  wrote: 
> My mom didn't like cats either, but I know where I came from. My gramma loved 
> dogs and cats and I spent a log of time with her. My Mom loved loved dogs, we 
> had 12 collies living with us, but NO CATS!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Lorrie  wrote:
> 
> > Edna, 
> > Can't say I blame you for not backing down on the declawing.  My mom
> > didn't even like cats enough to adopt one. I never figured out how
> > I became such an animal lover, because I was always dragging home
> > injured animals and Mom would say "Get that filthy thing out of here". 
> > If my mom saw how many cats I have now she'd turn over in her grave.
> > 
> > Lorrie
> > 
> > 
> > On 10-04, Edna Taylor wrote:
> >>   Lorrie,  I agree with you 100%.  My Mom has wanted to adopt several
> >>   kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her "NO" because
> >>   she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and
> >>   social as they were when they were kittens and I say "that's because
> >>   you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom".  That is one position
> >>   that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's
> >>   feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and
> >>   for what? furniture?  pppft.  Don't get me
> >>   wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did.  Declawing is
> >>   cruel and inhumane :(
> >> 
> >>   Edna
> >> __
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Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

[Marcia]

My mom didn't like cats either, but I know where I came from. My gramma loved 
dogs and cats and I spent a log of time with her. My Mom loved loved dogs, we 
had 12 collies living with us, but NO CATS!!

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On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Edna, 
> Can't say I blame you for not backing down on the declawing.  My mom
> didn't even like cats enough to adopt one. I never figured out how
> I became such an animal lover, because I was always dragging home
> injured animals and Mom would say "Get that filthy thing out of here". 
> If my mom saw how many cats I have now she'd turn over in her grave.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> 
> On 10-04, Edna Taylor wrote:
>>   Lorrie,  I agree with you 100%.  My Mom has wanted to adopt several
>>   kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her "NO" because
>>   she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and
>>   social as they were when they were kittens and I say "that's because
>>   you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom".  That is one position
>>   that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's
>>   feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and
>>   for what? furniture?  pppft.  Don't get me
>>   wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did.  Declawing is
>>   cruel and inhumane :(
>> 
>>   Edna
>> __
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Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

[Lorrie]

Edna, 
Can't say I blame you for not backing down on the declawing.  My mom
didn't even like cats enough to adopt one. I never figured out how
I became such an animal lover, because I was always dragging home
injured animals and Mom would say "Get that filthy thing out of here". 
If my mom saw how many cats I have now she'd turn over in her grave.

Lorrie


On 10-04, Edna Taylor wrote:
>Lorrie,  I agree with you 100%.  My Mom has wanted to adopt several
>kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her "NO" because
>she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and
>social as they were when they were kittens and I say "that's because
>you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom".  That is one position
>that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's
>feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and
>for what? furniture?  pppft.  Don't get me
>wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did.  Declawing is
>cruel and inhumane :(
> 
>Edna
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Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

[Susan]

Declawing can also result in litterbox issues

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On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Edna Taylor  wrote:

> Lorrie,  I agree with you 100%.  My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I 
> have had in the past and I have always told her "NO" because she declaws, 
> then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when 
> they were kittens and I say "that's because you tortured and mutilated them, 
> good going Mom".  That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I 
> don't care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done 
> it in the first place and for what? furniture?  
> pppft.  Don't get me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't 
> agree with what she did.  Declawing is cruel and inhumane :(
>  
> Joslin,  I am sorry for your loss of Zoey :(
> 
> Edna
>  
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:10:58 -0700
> From: joslinir...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw
> 
> I no longer declaw my cats, Zoey passed away a week ago, I no longer declaw 
> my cats.  
> 
> From: Lorrie 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw
> 
> You declawed your cat?  I will send you some information about
> this.  It is NOT a good thing to do.
> 
> People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They
> think it's just a "manicure", but it's actually amputation of the
> digit of each toe along with the nail.  It's a very serious and
> excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It 
> is in fact ten different amputations!
> 
> Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people
> believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a
> "simple procedure".  It is NOT.  
> 
> Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this
> surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following
> Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability & biting
> (they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense).
> The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and 
> defecating outside of the litter box.  The reason is that it is
> extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many
> cases a cat will never use it's box again.
> 
> Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who
> have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons.
> 
> Here's a perfect example:  We know of a couple who, when expecting a
> baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was
> far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and
> serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6
> years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them.
> 
> Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag
> flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws
> to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk,
> hoist her body up to a high-up perch.  Most important of all, claws
> are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an
> attacker if she should get outside by accident.
> 
> All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed.
> 
> Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering
> surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in
> excruciating pain.  Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage,
> immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain.
> Declawing is a major operation. The "patient" is first put under
> general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A
> tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The
> veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each
> amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly
> rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are
> severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a
> veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood.
> Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used
> throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self
> defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out
> with the trash.
> 
> Declawing Sites
> 
> www. stopdeclaw.coma powerful anti-declaw site.
> 
> http://www.declawing.com/ -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes
> declawing in plain English.
> 
> http://www.de-clawing.com/
> 
> http://www.declaw.com/
> 
> http://www.catscratching.com/
>

Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

[Joslin Potter]

Thanks, it's okay. He had FeLV and we did everything we could to keep him 
alive, he lived over four years with the disease. I was so proud of him, and 
happy that we got a chance to have him in our family.

 


 From: Edna Taylor 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw
  

 
Lorrie,  I agree with you 100%.  My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I 
have had in the past and I have always told her "NO" because she declaws, then 
she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they 
were kittens and I say "that's because you tortured and mutilated them, good 
going Mom".  That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I don't 
care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done it in the 
first place and for what? furniture?  pppft.  Don't get 
me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did.  Declawing is 
cruel and inhumane :(
 
Joslin,  I am sorry for your loss of Zoey :(

Edna
 



Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:10:58 -0700
From: joslinir...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw


I no longer declaw my cats, Zoey passed away a week ago, I no longer declaw 
my cats.  
 


 From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw
  
You declawed your cat?  I will send you some information about
this.  It is NOT a good thing to do.

People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They
think it's just a "manicure", but it's actually amputation of the
digit of each toe along with the nail.  It's a very serious and
excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It 
is in fact ten different amputations!

Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people
believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a
"simple procedure".  It is NOT.  

Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this
surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following
Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability & biting
(they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense).
The most common problem with declawed cats is
 urinating and 
defecating outside of the litter box.  The reason is that it is
extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many
cases a cat will never use it's box again.

Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who
have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons.

Here's a perfect example:  We know of a couple who, when expecting a
baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was
far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and
serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6
years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them.

Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag
flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws
to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk,
hoist her body up to a high-up perch.  Most
 important of all, claws
are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an
attacker if she should get outside by accident.

All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed.

Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering
surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in
excruciating pain.  Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage,
immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain.
Declawing is a major operation. The "patient" is first put under
general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A
tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The
veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each
amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly
rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are
severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a
veterinary
 technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood.
Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used
throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self
defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out
with the trash.

Declawing Sites

www. stopdeclaw.com     a powerful anti-declaw site.

http://www.declawing.com/ -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes
declawing in plain English.

http://www.de-clawing.com/

http://www.declaw.com/

http://www.catscratching.com/

Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the 
only reason it's still
 done here is vets make a lot of money from it,

Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

[Edna Taylor]

Lorrie,  I agree with you 100%.  My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I 
have had in the past and I have always told her "NO" because she declaws, then 
she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they 
were kittens and I say "that's because you tortured and mutilated them, good 
going Mom".  That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I don't 
care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done it in the 
first place and for what? furniture?  pppft.  Don't get 
me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did.  Declawing is 
cruel and inhumane :( Joslin,  I am sorry for your loss of Zoey :(
Edna
 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:10:58 -0700
From: joslinir...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

I no longer declaw my cats, Zoey passed away a week ago, I no longer declaw my 
cats.  
From: Lorrie 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw
   

You declawed your cat?  I will send you some information about
this.  It is NOT a good thing to do.

People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They
think it's just a "manicure", but it's actually amputation of the
digit of each toe along with the nail.  It's a very serious and
excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It 
is in fact ten different amputations!

Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people
believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a
"simple procedure".  It is NOT.  

Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this
surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following
Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability & biting
(they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense).
The most common problem with declawed cats is
 urinating and 
defecating outside of the litter box.  The reason is that it is
extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many
cases a cat will never use it's box again.

Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who
have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons.

Here's a perfect example:  We know of a couple who, when expecting a
baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was
far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and
serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6
years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them.

Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag
flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws
to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk,
hoist her body up to a high-up perch.  Most
 important of all, claws
are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an
attacker if she should get outside by accident.

All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed.

Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering
surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in
excruciating pain.  Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage,
immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain.
Declawing is a major operation. The "patient" is first put under
general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A
tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The
veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each
amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly
rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are
severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a
veterinary
 technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood.
Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used
throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self
defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out
with the trash.

Declawing Sites

www. stopdeclaw.com a powerful anti-declaw site.

http://www.declawing.com/ -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes
declawing in plain English.

http://www.de-clawing.com/

http://www.declaw.com/

http://www.catscratching.com/

Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the 
only reason it's still
 done here is vets make a lot of money from it,
plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is.


On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote:
>You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and
>declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx with
>FeLV that we would be seeing them a lot more often then planned, I also
>recommened them to everyone and sometimes get discounts for refering
>friends. 



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Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

[Joslin Potter]

thanks everyone for the information. i know it is wrong and i no longer do it 
to my animals, the last one i did was over 5 years ago and he has long sinced 
passed. I felt horrible once i had seen what they really do. Thanks for the 
reminding information. 

 


 From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw
  

Also: http://www.pawproject.org/   Technically, it's like getting your fingers 
cut off at the first knuckle, except that all that cats have for fingers are 
their claws.  So it's really like having all your entire fingers (and thumbs) 
cut off, so you can't pick up anything anymore---and also (even if you only 
declaw the front) all of your toes, so you can't walk without pain (including 
back pain).   

Watch this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NQOzwj41Pc




On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Lorrie  wrote:

You declawed your cat?  I will send you some information about
>this.  It is NOT a good thing to do.
>
>People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They
>think it's just a "manicure", but it's actually amputation of the
>digit of each toe along with the nail.  It's a very serious and
>excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It
>is in fact ten different amputations!
>
>Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people
>believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a
>"simple procedure".  It is NOT.
>
>Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this
>surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following
>Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability & biting
>(they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense).
>The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and
>defecating outside of the litter box.  The reason is that it is
>extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many
>cases a cat will never use it's box again.
>
>Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who
>have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons.
>
>Here's a perfect example:  We know of a couple who, when expecting a
>baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was
>far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and
>serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6
>years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them.
>
>Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag
>flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws
>to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk,
>hoist her body up to a high-up perch.  Most important of all, claws
>are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an
>attacker if she should get outside by accident.
>
>All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed.
>
>Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering
>surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in
>excruciating pain.  Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage,
>immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain.
>Declawing is a major operation. The "patient" is first put under
>general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A
>tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The
>veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each
>amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly
>rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are
>severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a
>veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood.
>Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used
>throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self
>defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out
>with the trash.
>
>Declawing Sites
>
>www. stopdeclaw.com     a powerful anti-declaw site.
>
>http://www.declawing.com/ -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes
>declawing in plain English.
>
>http://www.de-clawing.com/
>
>http://www.declaw.com/
>
>http://www.catscratching.com/
>
>Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the
>only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it,
>plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is.
>
>
>On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote:
>>    You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and
>>    declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx 

Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

[Joslin Potter]

I no longer declaw my cats, Zoey passed away a week ago, I no longer declaw 
my cats.  
 


 From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw
  
You declawed your cat?  I will send you some information about
this.  It is NOT a good thing to do.

People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They
think it's just a "manicure", but it's actually amputation of the
digit of each toe along with the nail.  It's a very serious and
excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It 
is in fact ten different amputations!

Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people
believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a
"simple procedure".  It is NOT.  

Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this
surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following
Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability & biting
(they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense).
The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and 
defecating outside of the litter box.  The reason is that it is
extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many
cases a cat will never use it's box again.

Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who
have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons.

Here's a perfect example:  We know of a couple who, when expecting a
baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was
far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and
serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6
years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them.

Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag
flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws
to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk,
hoist her body up to a high-up perch.  Most important of all, claws
are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an
attacker if she should get outside by accident.

All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed.

Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering
surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in
excruciating pain.  Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage,
immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain.
Declawing is a major operation. The "patient" is first put under
general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A
tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The
veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each
amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly
rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are
severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a
veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood.
Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used
throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self
defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out
with the trash.

Declawing Sites

www. stopdeclaw.com     a powerful anti-declaw site.

http://www.declawing.com/ -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes
declawing in plain English.

http://www.de-clawing.com/

http://www.declaw.com/

http://www.catscratching.com/

Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the 
only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it,
plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is.


On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote:
>    You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and
>    declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx with
>    FeLV that we would be seeing them a lot more often then planned, I also
>    recommened them to everyone and sometimes get discounts for refering
>    friends. 



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Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

[Kathryn Hargreaves]

Also: http://www.*pawproject*.*org*/ 
 Technically, it's like getting your fingers cut off at the first knuckle,
except that all that cats have for fingers are their claws.  So it's really
like having all your entire fingers (and thumbs) cut off, so you can't pick
up anything anymore---and also (even if you only declaw the front) all of
your toes, so you can't walk without pain (including back pain).

Watch this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NQOzwj41Pc


On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Lorrie  wrote:

> You declawed your cat?  I will send you some information about
> this.  It is NOT a good thing to do.
>
> People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They
> think it's just a "manicure", but it's actually amputation of the
> digit of each toe along with the nail.  It's a very serious and
> excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It
> is in fact ten different amputations!
>
> Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people
> believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a
> "simple procedure".  It is NOT.
>
> Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this
> surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following
> Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability & biting
> (they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense).
> The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and
> defecating outside of the litter box.  The reason is that it is
> extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many
> cases a cat will never use it's box again.
>
> Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who
> have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons.
>
> Here's a perfect example:  We know of a couple who, when expecting a
> baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was
> far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and
> serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6
> years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them.
>
> Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag
> flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws
> to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk,
> hoist her body up to a high-up perch.  Most important of all, claws
> are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an
> attacker if she should get outside by accident.
>
> All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed.
>
> Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering
> surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in
> excruciating pain.  Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage,
> immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain.
> Declawing is a major operation. The "patient" is first put under
> general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A
> tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The
> veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each
> amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly
> rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are
> severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a
> veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood.
> Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used
> throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self
> defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out
> with the trash.
>
> Declawing Sites
>
> www. stopdeclaw.com a powerful anti-declaw site.
>
> www.declawing.com -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes
> declawing in plain English.
>
> www.de-clawing.com
>
> www.declaw.com
>
> www.catscratching.com
>
> Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the
> only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it,
> plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is.
>
>
> On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote:
> >You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and
> >declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx with
> >FeLV that we would be seeing them a lot more often then planned, I
> also
> >recommened them to everyone and sometimes get discounts for refering
> >friends.
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

[Lorrie]

You declawed your cat?  I will send you some information about
this.  It is NOT a good thing to do.

People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They
think it's just a "manicure", but it's actually amputation of the
digit of each toe along with the nail.  It's a very serious and
excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It 
is in fact ten different amputations!

Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people
believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a
"simple procedure".  It is NOT.  

Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this
surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following
Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability & biting
(they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense).
The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and 
defecating outside of the litter box.  The reason is that it is
extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many
cases a cat will never use it's box again.

Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who
have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons.

Here's a perfect example:  We know of a couple who, when expecting a
baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was
far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and
serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6
years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them.

Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag
flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws
to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk,
hoist her body up to a high-up perch.  Most important of all, claws
are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an
attacker if she should get outside by accident.

All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed.

Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering
surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in
excruciating pain.  Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage,
immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain.
Declawing is a major operation. The "patient" is first put under
general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A
tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The
veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each
amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly
rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are
severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a
veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood.
Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used
throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self
defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out
with the trash.

Declawing Sites

www. stopdeclaw.com a powerful anti-declaw site.

www.declawing.com -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes
declawing in plain English.

www.de-clawing.com

www.declaw.com

www.catscratching.com

Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the 
only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it,
plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is.


On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote:
>You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and
>declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx with
>FeLV that we would be seeing them a lot more often then planned, I also
>recommened them to everyone and sometimes get discounts for refering
>friends. 



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