Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend?
They are all so different and sometimes our expectations have something to do with their actions/reactions. I have been blessed by friends that get along, even if it takes a while for them to work things out. Ebony and Mitu worked it out and they worked it out with Mai Mai and Allie (two dogs who came alone separately and who worked things out themselves). Kitty worked ti out with Dixie. Ebony and Mi Tu worked it out with Sandy (another dog). All of us slept in the same bed and they lived in peace. Now Copper and Thomas (male cats) are working it out with Bob (a dog). Expectations have a lot to do with adjustments in MHO. I have brought dogs in to care for them while their Persons was vacationing etc...it worked out. Everything and everyone is different and I really believe that the beliefs of the people involved have a lot to do with adjustments. If we think it won't work..well, it won't. On Dec 17, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Mike Finch wrote: I'm with you Claudia!! The reality is that there are no rules... only imagined tendencies. :) I recently saw a very sweet movie called "The Answer Man." I highly recommend it. In it, the lead female character said three things that she lives by that I totally love. 1) Never take advice from someone you wouldn't switch places with. 2) Try not to do anything you can't take back. 3) Something is what it is... and it's not something else. #3 is how I approach cat relationships, or for that matter humans too. It's personalities and chemistry. Nothing more. And thank God for that. It makes life joyfully interesting. :) Mike From: Claudia Veiga To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 6:19:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? I think it depends on the cat, I have knowns very sweet and friendly female cats who like being with other cats, I know some others on here made genralizations about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it really depends on the cat, jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people. Claudia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend?
I'm with you Claudia!! The reality is that there are no rules... only imagined tendencies. :) I recently saw a very sweet movie called "The Answer Man." I highly recommend it. In it, the lead female character said three things that she lives by that I totally love. 1) Never take advice from someone you wouldn't switch places with. 2) Try not to do anything you can't take back. 3) Something is what it is... and it's not something else. #3 is how I approach cat relationships, or for that matter humans too. It's personalities and chemistry. Nothing more. And thank God for that. It makes life joyfully interesting. :) Mike From: Claudia Veiga To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 6:19:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? I think it depends on the cat, I have knowns very sweet and friendly female cats who like being with other cats, I know some others on here made genralizations about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it really depends on the cat, jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people. Claudia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I agree completely. My 18mo old female with cancer who receives chemo has accepted the kitten since day one. When she doesn't feel like playing she patiently lets him know. When he doesn't back of she makes it quite clear she doesn't want to play! I've felt like she acts like a momma kitty. I've also been following the messages about black kitties. Our little black boy is the sweetest kitty ever. He is so much fun because he is fun and full of life. I think someone told me they here in japan black cats bring good luck. I personally turned 13 on Friday the13th and had a black cat! I don't believe in superstitions! Melinda, Fuji, and VooDoo Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Claudia Veiga wrote: > I think it depends on the cat, I have knowns very sweet and friendly female > cats > who like being with other cats, I know some others on here made > genralizations > about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it really depends on the > cat, > jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people. > > Claudia > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:29:37 -0500 > From: Natalie > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? > Message-ID: <08c901cb9d57$952de680$bf89b3...@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > That is EXACTLY what I have found - almost all of our male cats are > nurturing, loving - just like mothers or uncles to kittens and all > cats...females have not been! But then, they probably had their motherhood > experience, and decided "no more!" My problem right now is that I have > adoption age kittens just in time for Christmas, and I do not, as a policy, > want kittens to be going to a new home at this time - the worst ever! Meowy > Christmas to all! Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:06 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? > > My females are little stinkers with other cats. My male cats have always > been the nurturing, accepting ones. I've had big male formerly outdoor Tom > cats who get fixed & come inside & play mom to my kitten fosters & cuddle > with my adult males. My female cats swat & hiss at the kittens or new > adults. > > Beth > Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org ? > > --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Emeraldkittee wrote: > > From: Emeraldkittee > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:49 PM > > thanks for sharing, Bonnie!? I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know > there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy > ones, who I loved dearly.? We call our only female - the oldest at 15 - > queen, too. :) > > --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > From: Bonnie Hogue > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM > > > Shannon > I have to tell you this story... > I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.? She was indoors only.? There > was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window.? About a > year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my > degree.? I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy > would be alone much of the time.? In a move that is the *only* time I've > sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the > local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.? I brought him home > and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" > Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.? Oops.? I don't think she > ever quite forgave me... >> From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are > solitary.? That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally > speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." > ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of > their need.? She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's > "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's > the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. > Good luck! > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes, I agree - but I believe that generally, males are more outgoing, and much easier to tame than feral females. I have plenty of very cuddly felines, even my tortie who acts like a dog (only to me)...she follows me like a dog. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Claudia Veiga Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 4:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? I think it depends on the cat, I have knowns very sweet and friendly female cats who like being with other cats, I know some others on here made genralizations about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it really depends on the cat, jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people. Claudia Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:29:37 -0500 From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Message-ID: <08c901cb9d57$952de680$bf89b3...@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 That is EXACTLY what I have found - almost all of our male cats are nurturing, loving - just like mothers or uncles to kittens and all cats...females have not been! But then, they probably had their motherhood experience, and decided "no more!" My problem right now is that I have adoption age kittens just in time for Christmas, and I do not, as a policy, want kittens to be going to a new home at this time - the worst ever! Meowy Christmas to all! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? My females are little stinkers with other cats. My male cats have always been the nurturing, accepting ones. I've had big male formerly outdoor Tom cats who get fixed & come inside & play mom to my kitten fosters & cuddle with my adult males. My female cats swat & hiss at the kittens or new adults. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org ? --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Emeraldkittee wrote: From: Emeraldkittee Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:49 PM thanks for sharing, Bonnie!? I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy ones, who I loved dearly.? We call our only female - the oldest at 15 - queen, too. :) --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.? She was indoors only.? There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window.? About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree.? I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time.? In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.? I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.? Oops.? I don't think she ever quite forgave me... > From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary.? That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need.? She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Good point Claudia. I currently have 6 house kitties ranging in age from 18 yo to 14 wk old. Zippity-doo-dah, the baby, is the only male. I've found age plays more of a role in how well cats get along. My 18 yo girl just ignores the rest and will put them in their place if they bug her. She is a tortie and never been a lap kitty. In my home anyway, they seem to group themselves by age. My next challenge is the 3 black and one black/white rescues I'm fostering in the bathroom. They are approx. 16 weeks old and anxious to escape the bathroom. Having 5 babies romping through the cottage could be quite a challenge for all of us. Sharyl --- On Fri, 12/17/10, Claudia Veiga wrote: > From: Claudia Veiga > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 4:19 PM > I think it depends on the cat, I have > knowns very sweet and friendly female cats > who like being with other cats, I know some others on here > made genralizations > about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it > really depends on the cat, > jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people. > > Claudia > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I think it depends on the cat, I have knowns very sweet and friendly female cats who like being with other cats, I know some others on here made genralizations about female cats, but I wouldn't do that, I think it really depends on the cat, jsut like I don't liek to generalize about people. Claudia Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:29:37 -0500 From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Message-ID: <08c901cb9d57$952de680$bf89b3...@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 That is EXACTLY what I have found - almost all of our male cats are nurturing, loving - just like mothers or uncles to kittens and all cats...females have not been! But then, they probably had their motherhood experience, and decided "no more!" My problem right now is that I have adoption age kittens just in time for Christmas, and I do not, as a policy, want kittens to be going to a new home at this time - the worst ever! Meowy Christmas to all! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? My females are little stinkers with other cats. My male cats have always been the nurturing, accepting ones. I've had big male formerly outdoor Tom cats who get fixed & come inside & play mom to my kitten fosters & cuddle with my adult males. My female cats swat & hiss at the kittens or new adults. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org ? --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Emeraldkittee wrote: From: Emeraldkittee Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:49 PM thanks for sharing, Bonnie!? I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy ones, who I loved dearly.? We call our only female - the oldest at 15 - queen, too. :) --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten.? She was indoors only.? There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window.? About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree.? I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time.? In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old.? I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat.? Oops.? I don't think she ever quite forgave me... > From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary.? That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need.? She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I was not sure if getting a kitten would be the right thing for Rosie because she was so territorial when we brought Murphy home after he tested positive at the spay/neuter clinic and they were going to euthanize him if I didn't come pick him up quickly. She hissed and stalked him forever, but he was so mellow and stayed clear. At the time, she still had 2 of her brothers that she would cuddle up with and play with. After the 2nd brother passed, she walked the halls at night yowling and crying. It took a long time, but she finally stopped being mean to Murphy and they would lie side by side, birdwatching and they stayed fairly close to each other all day. Not the cuddly relationship, but they were company for each other. When Murphy passed, she again began to cry at night and spent alot of time sleeping. She checked out ok at the vet-she was just sad. When we brought Miso home, we had a large wire crate about 4 feet long with 2 doors. He stayed in that most of the first few days. Rosie would charge at him, hissing and screaming-not a pretty sight. When he was eating or drinking, she tried to smack him through the bars of the cage! We had to barracade that side of the cage. We began to let him out in short intervals. Luckily, he is about 6 months old and as big as her and very outgoing. Oh-he also has only one eye, which was a concern-we trimmed her nails. He followed her everywhere, when she'd turn to thump him, he laid down and was submissive, she would stop and walk away. He followed her everywhere-she did thump him a few times without using her claws and it didn't faze him at all. He loved all the toys and was so busy that he drew her into playing a few times. Now it's been almost a week and they are inseparable, she has her spark back and is playing all the time. It's been a really long time since she's played like a kitten, since her brothers died over a year ago. She never did have that relationship with Murphy-he was too afraid of her, I think. This one eyed kitten is fearless and so full of energy! We have adopted another kitten the same age, solid black, about 6 months old and he will be coming home in 3-4 weeks, after his 2nd FeLV vaccine. I hope things go as well. Miso still gets crated at night and he's fine with it, still alot better than the small cages at the adoption center. I am so grateful for CATS (Cats About Town Society) rescue group for allowing us to adopt these sweet babies and truly going the extra mile, getting them vaccinated and keeping them the extra month. They are all vaccinated, tested and FeLV negative, neutered, microchipped, clean and well socialized kittens that I have seen at the Natomas Petsmart near us (Sacramento, CA). I think keeping him in the big crate and letting her get used to him slowly the first few days really helped. I hope things go as well with the next one. I figured she was happy cuddling with her original brothers that it may work out fine. Also in the back of my mind is just in case she becomes ill and passes away, the kittens will still have each other. We have learned the hard way that it can happen so quickly. We have tried so hard to save them, even a transfusion for Jack, but he had such a bad reaction that we asked them to stop. Ahh-here comes Rosie now with a toy mouse in her mouth that she just stole from Miso!! Life is good again. Alice Flowers-Clark ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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There's an alternative for Feliway - rub a drop of vanilla briskly between your hands and then touch the cats' faces on the side where the facial pheromone glands are located - this way all cats will smell the same. A very mild floral eau de cologne can also be used. A good way of introducing cats is to exchange their bedding while they are in different areas - that way, their individual scents will no longer be so foreign. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Yes, Feliway is expensive but I would have done/spent anything to comfort Kitty. She was my father's cat before he left this world and..well...luckily you don't have to use a lot at a time. You are right about the personality of the animal. I have been blessed. All of the dogs and cats I have tried to mix worked out wonderfully. Maybe some of it is the person's expectations? When I considered Bob, I asked his rescuer to send bedding and I sent bedding back. The cats and Bob had lots of time to adjust to odor but I suspect they adjusted when they saw and communicated On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > I bought the Feliway spray (very expensive) and I think it was a big > help. > Also did the pet rescue remedy in water, too. > Maybe that is why Lucky's "integration" went so well. > But I must say, I think a lot has to do with the personality of the > animal, too. Lucky is a very confident, "walk up to you and say > 'howdy'" kind of guy! > ~Bonnie > - Original Message ----- From: "MaiMaiPG" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? > > >> Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy in the water.Honest. >> Kitty was forced to leave her life long home to live with me. >> There was nothing that made her content much happy. I slept on >> the living room floor for about three months until she came out >> and was comfortable (or as comfortable as she was going to be >> then). My holistic vet suggested Feliway and that is what finally >> got Kitty our from under the couch. Feliway has helped several >> ferals too. Bob is integrating with the cats (beagle/border >> collie) thanks to Rescue Remedy and letting them work it out >> without me getting involved (other than making sure there was no >> blood shed). >> On Dec 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: >> >>> Beverly >>> Oh, how I long for a home like yours! >>> I agree about the intro, and I've tried to "do it right" with >>> everyone. The most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and >>> seems accepted by all. But there are tensions, especially between >>> Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan (she's a rehabilitated >>> feral). I think boy cats are mellower, more accepting. I would >>> love to see everyone curled up together on the couch or my bed, >>> or playing together. Sigh. >>> Thanks for another perspective! >>> ~Bonnie >>> - Original Message - From: "Beverly Parsons" >> > >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? >>> >>> >>>> Hi Bonnie, >>>> >>>> I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only! I >>>> have five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our >>>> small apartment and they are all best buds. They rumble and >>>> tumble and play, and curl up and sleep together when they get >>>> tired. I don't think any of them would do well as an only cat. >>>> Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are >>>> great friends. >>>> >>>> It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of >>>> a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy >>>> relationship. >>>> >>>> Just my two cents. >>>> >>>> Beverly >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: >>>> >>>>> Shannon >>>>> I have to tell you this story... >>>>> I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was
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The most important thing is the way cats are introduced, which, as a rescuer, I am doing all the time. I either place a large cage where the cats are, and they get to know one another safely. It's also a good idea to use Feliway at the same time. Another trick we have is to have a screen door installed between a bathroom and another room where cats come and go. They get to know each other through the screen safely, and once, opened, all's well. Yes, there are some cats that would love to be "the only cat", but they're far and in-between. Cats are very social creatures; people always think of them as being solitary, lone, antisocialThe only time I would advise anyone not to adopt another cat or kitten, is if the cat is very old and perhaps ill. Very often, the big difference could be the type of cat (age, personality) that is adopted. I always tell our adopters to give it some time, you can't expect cats to get along in a day or two. Although, the two FeLV cats became great friends overnight, with just a screen door between them. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? It's funny you mention asking him, because I have, and he's been silent about the whole thing. Not a stony silence, just a musing things over..."I will answer when I am ready, human!' ;) The outside entrance, thru which we have always come and gone, has frozen shut with the cold, so we have to go to see him thru the house. He's caught glimpses of the 'others' and was curious, ran to door, no hissing, fear, he seemed excited, and then started his drooly purr. I will let you know when he gives his answer :) --- On Wed, 12/15/10, MaiMaiPG wrote: From: MaiMaiPG Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:03 PM Consider what you would want if you were Whimsy. I don't know about another version but would you rather have a buddy even if your life was a little shorter? I can't answer that for you. I can tell you quality of life is very important to me and my family--both 2 legged and 4 legged. If I were considering a partner, I would probably look for a female (spayed) and maybe younger but who knows Whimsy may have other ideas. For reasons unknown, I have been blessed with animals who accepted each other. It hasn't mattered whether they were dogs or cats..I have been blessed. Follow your heart and ask your cat. On Dec 15, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. > > I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away... > > so, is it a good idea? > should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties? > male or female? > If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version? > > again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. > > thank you!! > Shannon > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That is EXACTLY what I have found - almost all of our male cats are nurturing, loving - just like mothers or uncles to kittens and all cats...females have not been! But then, they probably had their motherhood experience, and decided "no more!" My problem right now is that I have adoption age kittens just in time for Christmas, and I do not, as a policy, want kittens to be going to a new home at this time - the worst ever! Meowy Christmas to all! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? My females are little stinkers with other cats. My male cats have always been the nurturing, accepting ones. I've had big male formerly outdoor Tom cats who get fixed & come inside & play mom to my kitten fosters & cuddle with my adult males. My female cats swat & hiss at the kittens or new adults. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Emeraldkittee wrote: From: Emeraldkittee Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:49 PM thanks for sharing, Bonnie! I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy ones, who I loved dearly. We call our only female - the oldest at 15 - queen, too. :) --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... > From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My females are little stinkers with other cats. My male cats have always been the nurturing, accepting ones. I've had big male formerly outdoor Tom cats who get fixed & come inside & play mom to my kitten fosters & cuddle with my adult males. My female cats swat & hiss at the kittens or new adults. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Emeraldkittee wrote: From: Emeraldkittee Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:49 PM thanks for sharing, Bonnie! I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy ones, who I loved dearly. We call our only female - the oldest at 15 - queen, too. :) --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... > From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I wondered the same thing too, but with the adoption of our newest pomeranian, i realized that another cat was not in the game plan, believe it or not, my cat thinks of the puppy as it's kitten, truly different. From: Emeraldkittee To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, December 15, 2010 10:49:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? thanks for sharing, Bonnie! I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy ones, who I loved dearly. We call our only female - the oldest at 15 - queen, too. :) --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... > From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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thanks for sharing, Bonnie! I wonder if it's just a female thing? I know there are laid back girl kitties, but I've always had tempermental, fussy ones, who I loved dearly. We call our only female - the oldest at 15 - queen, too. :) --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:27 PM Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... > From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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It's funny you mention asking him, because I have, and he's been silent about the whole thing. Not a stony silence, just a musing things over..."I will answer when I am ready, human!' ;) The outside entrance, thru which we have always come and gone, has frozen shut with the cold, so we have to go to see him thru the house. He's caught glimpses of the 'others' and was curious, ran to door, no hissing, fear, he seemed excited, and then started his drooly purr. I will let you know when he gives his answer :) --- On Wed, 12/15/10, MaiMaiPG wrote: From: MaiMaiPG Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 8:03 PM Consider what you would want if you were Whimsy. I don't know about another version but would you rather have a buddy even if your life was a little shorter? I can't answer that for you. I can tell you quality of life is very important to me and my family--both 2 legged and 4 legged. If I were considering a partner, I would probably look for a female (spayed) and maybe younger but who knows Whimsy may have other ideas. For reasons unknown, I have been blessed with animals who accepted each other. It hasn't mattered whether they were dogs or cats..I have been blessed. Follow your heart and ask your cat. On Dec 15, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you > control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to > a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him > closely to make sure he isn't lonely. > > I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months > after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have > a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, > they'd have to be together right away... > > so, is it a good idea? > should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to > see how he reacts to other kitties? > male or female? > If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially > make him sicker with a more virulent version? > > again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. > > thank you!! > Shannon > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes, Feliway is expensive but I would have done/spent anything to comfort Kitty. She was my father's cat before he left this world and..well...luckily you don't have to use a lot at a time. You are right about the personality of the animal. I have been blessed. All of the dogs and cats I have tried to mix worked out wonderfully. Maybe some of it is the person's expectations? When I considered Bob, I asked his rescuer to send bedding and I sent bedding back. The cats and Bob had lots of time to adjust to odor but I suspect they adjusted when they saw and communicated On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: I bought the Feliway spray (very expensive) and I think it was a big help. Also did the pet rescue remedy in water, too. Maybe that is why Lucky's "integration" went so well. But I must say, I think a lot has to do with the personality of the animal, too. Lucky is a very confident, "walk up to you and say 'howdy'" kind of guy! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "MaiMaiPG" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy in the water.Honest. Kitty was forced to leave her life long home to live with me. There was nothing that made her content much happy. I slept on the living room floor for about three months until she came out and was comfortable (or as comfortable as she was going to be then). My holistic vet suggested Feliway and that is what finally got Kitty our from under the couch. Feliway has helped several ferals too. Bob is integrating with the cats (beagle/border collie) thanks to Rescue Remedy and letting them work it out without me getting involved (other than making sure there was no blood shed). On Dec 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Beverly Oh, how I long for a home like yours! I agree about the intro, and I've tried to "do it right" with everyone. The most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But there are tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan (she's a rehabilitated feral). I think boy cats are mellower, more accepting. I would love to see everyone curled up together on the couch or my bed, or playing together. Sigh. Thanks for another perspective! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Beverly Parsons" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Hi Bonnie, I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only! I have five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and they are all best buds. They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired. I don't think any of them would do well as an only cat. Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends. It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship. Just my two cents. Beverly On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that
Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend?
I bought the Feliway spray (very expensive) and I think it was a big help. Also did the pet rescue remedy in water, too. Maybe that is why Lucky's "integration" went so well. But I must say, I think a lot has to do with the personality of the animal, too. Lucky is a very confident, "walk up to you and say 'howdy'" kind of guy! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "MaiMaiPG" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy in the water.Honest. Kitty was forced to leave her life long home to live with me. There was nothing that made her content much happy. I slept on the living room floor for about three months until she came out and was comfortable (or as comfortable as she was going to be then). My holistic vet suggested Feliway and that is what finally got Kitty our from under the couch. Feliway has helped several ferals too. Bob is integrating with the cats (beagle/border collie) thanks to Rescue Remedy and letting them work it out without me getting involved (other than making sure there was no blood shed). On Dec 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Beverly Oh, how I long for a home like yours! I agree about the intro, and I've tried to "do it right" with everyone. The most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But there are tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan (she's a rehabilitated feral). I think boy cats are mellower, more accepting. I would love to see everyone curled up together on the couch or my bed, or playing together. Sigh. Thanks for another perspective! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Beverly Parsons" > To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Hi Bonnie, I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only! I have five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and they are all best buds. They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired. I don't think any of them would do well as an only cat. Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends. It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship. Just my two cents. Beverly On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" > To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away... so, is it a good idea? should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties? male or female? If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty po
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Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy in the water.Honest. Kitty was forced to leave her life long home to live with me. There was nothing that made her content much happy. I slept on the living room floor for about three months until she came out and was comfortable (or as comfortable as she was going to be then). My holistic vet suggested Feliway and that is what finally got Kitty our from under the couch. Feliway has helped several ferals too. Bob is integrating with the cats (beagle/border collie) thanks to Rescue Remedy and letting them work it out without me getting involved (other than making sure there was no blood shed). On Dec 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Beverly Oh, how I long for a home like yours! I agree about the intro, and I've tried to "do it right" with everyone. The most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But there are tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan (she's a rehabilitated feral). I think boy cats are mellower, more accepting. I would love to see everyone curled up together on the couch or my bed, or playing together. Sigh. Thanks for another perspective! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Beverly Parsons" > To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Hi Bonnie, I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only! I have five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and they are all best buds. They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired. I don't think any of them would do well as an only cat. Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends. It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship. Just my two cents. Beverly On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" > To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away... so, is it a good idea? should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties? male or female? If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version? again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. thank you!! Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Yes, I do very much agree that boys are better at multi cat situations than girls are, from my experience at least. We're pretty lucky here. :-) On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > Beverly > Oh, how I long for a home like yours! > I agree about the intro, and I've tried to "do it right" with everyone. The > most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But > there are tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan > (she's a rehabilitated feral). I think boy cats are mellower, more > accepting. I would love to see everyone curled up together on the couch or > my bed, or playing together. Sigh. > Thanks for another perspective! > ~Bonnie > - Original Message - From: "Beverly Parsons" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? > > >> Hi Bonnie, >> >> I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only! I have five male >> cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and they are >> all best buds. They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and sleep >> together when they get tired. I don't think any of them would do well as an >> only cat. Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are >> great friends. >> >> It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new cat >> to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship. >> >> Just my two cents. >> >> Beverly >> >> >> On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: >> >>> Shannon >>> I have to tell you this story... >>> I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There >>> was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a >>> year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my >>> degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy >>> would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've >>> sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to >>> the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him >>> home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" >>> Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she >>> ever quite forgave me... >>>> From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are >>> solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally >>> speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." >>> ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out >>> of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's >>> "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's >>> the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. >>> Good luck! >>> ~Bonnie >>> - Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? >>> >>> >>>> Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you >>>> control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due >>>> to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching >>>> him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. >>>> >>>> I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months >>>> after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't >>>> have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new >>>> kitty, they'd have to be together right away... >>>> >>>> so, is it a good idea? >>>> should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings >>>> to see how he reacts to other kitties? >>>> male or female? >>>> If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty >>>> potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version? >>>> >>>> again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. >>>> >>>> thank you!! >>>> Shannon >>>> >>>> >&
Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend?
Beverly Oh, how I long for a home like yours! I agree about the intro, and I've tried to "do it right" with everyone. The most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But there are tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan (she's a rehabilitated feral). I think boy cats are mellower, more accepting. I would love to see everyone curled up together on the couch or my bed, or playing together. Sigh. Thanks for another perspective! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Beverly Parsons" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Hi Bonnie, I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only! I have five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and they are all best buds. They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired. I don't think any of them would do well as an only cat. Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends. It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship. Just my two cents. Beverly On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ~Bonnie ----- Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away... so, is it a good idea? should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties? male or female? If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version? again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. thank you!! Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Bonnie, I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only! I have five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and they are all best buds. They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired. I don't think any of them would do well as an only cat. Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends. It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship. Just my two cents. Beverly On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > Shannon > I have to tell you this story... > I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There > was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a > year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my > degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy > would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've > sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the > local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and > said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" > Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she > ever quite forgave me... >> From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are > solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally > speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." > ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of > their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" > and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder > puss) and she's adjusted very well. > Good luck! > ~Bonnie > ----- Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM > Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? > > >> Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you >> control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to >> a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him >> closely to make sure he isn't lonely. >> >> I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months >> after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have >> a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, >> they'd have to be together right away... >> >> so, is it a good idea? >> should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to >> see how he reacts to other kitties? >> male or female? >> If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially >> make him sicker with a more virulent version? >> >> again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. >> >> thank you!! >> Shannon >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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To add to this: Dixie left this world and I was broken hearted. She sent me Copper. I really wanted a brother/sister/friend for him. Two weeks later Thomas showed up. They are wonderful brothers and they now have Bob, a dog, to train. I really believe cats and dogs are easier in pairs but this is something you have to decide. I hope Bob will have a dog friend one day but there are lots of things to think about. He has been with me and the cats 4 months. He is 2 years old and in need of a lot of attention. That is dog stuff. Re cats: I really like two or more, especially if I am going to be gone a lot. On Dec 15, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" > To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away... so, is it a good idea? should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties? male or female? If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version? again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. thank you!! Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a "yard cat" but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, "Look Stormy -- I got you a friend!" Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the "only." ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all "came to me" out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's "queen" and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend? Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away... so, is it a good idea? should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties? male or female? If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version? again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. thank you!! Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Consider what you would want if you were Whimsy. I don't know about another version but would you rather have a buddy even if your life was a little shorter? I can't answer that for you. I can tell you quality of life is very important to me and my family--both 2 legged and 4 legged. If I were considering a partner, I would probably look for a female (spayed) and maybe younger but who knows Whimsy may have other ideas. For reasons unknown, I have been blessed with animals who accepted each other. It hasn't mattered whether they were dogs or cats..I have been blessed. Follow your heart and ask your cat. On Dec 15, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away... so, is it a good idea? should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties? male or female? If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version? again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. thank you!! Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] how to know if your "only" needs a friend?
Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away... so, is it a good idea? should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties? male or female? If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version? again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. thank you!! Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
