Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk
Hi Claire, This is a great group. I'm a member of 5 cat yahoo groups and this one is my favorite. I get daily e-mails, and I can delete them or reply to them if I have something to comment on. Some people get a daily digest. We discuss all sorts of things and the medical stuff is what is most interesting to me. Bring up a subject of interest to you, or ask a question, and watch for all the replies you'll get. Lorrie On 07-18, Claire Davidson wrote: > Hi, > I'm a new member of FeLVTalk at felineleukemia.org and have yet to figure > out how to view daily discussions. I'm used to joining a group and viewing > discussions, but see nothing under any of the links on your site that allows > me to do this. Am I to assume that I only view current discussion through > the email I received below? > > Thanks for your help and for your efforts in helping those who have FeLV > positvie kitties. > > Claire Davidson _______ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Mailing list
Please remove my name and address from your mailing list. Thank you. -- If what you seek, you find not within, you will not find it without. Blessed Be. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Vaccines
I bought the vaccine and my sister-in-law was able to vaccinate my young negatives for much much less than I would have to pay at the vet. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Vaccines
yes, i was going to suggest that people check into this--AND even ask your vet, about having them get you a flat of 25 vaccines for you to administer yourself. to fully protect them, you need to do the initial dose and then a second in two to three weeks. from there, theoretically, annual shots are required. whether or not that's actually the case is up for debate, as immunity should be immunity--with the relatively low infection rate in healthy adults cats, i seriously question whether or not the annual boosters are needed. but i'm a heretic, as you all know. with healthy, negative cats, despite what "they" would have predicted. MC On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:33 PM, wrote: > I bought the vaccine and my sister-in-law was able to vaccinate my young > negatives for much much > less than I would have to pay at the vet. > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) _______ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Mailing list
Islay, you can do that yourself. Click on the second link below and it will take you to the page where you can manage your subscription. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Islay Mulcahy wrote: > Please remove my name and address from your mailing list. > > Thank you. > > -- > If what you seek, you find not within, you will not find it without. > Blessed Be. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. <http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm> If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/<http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/> Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list
Taz and I are still here. I look forward to this "talk". I'm glad there is so much good input and caring from people for the positives. I wish more would be educated. Nancy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - freezing interferon
Interferon is a protein. It is dried into a powder which should be able to be frozen with no problem. But when proteins are dissolved into a liquid solution, freezing can be tricky. As a scientist working with a variety of proteins, I can tell you that many proteins will start to break down if frozen more than once. And rapid freezing is preferable to slow freezing. At home, the closest thing to rapid freezing could be done by putting the protein tube into ice in the back of the freezer lowering the temp more rapidly than if you just stick it on the shelf in the freezer. Proteins also generally survive freezing better if they are more dilute and freezing in smaller portions will allow the freezing to go faster than freezing in big portions. If a protein is degraded by freezing, it's structure starts to unwind. Some molecules of the protein in the solution may degrade and others won't so you may still see that the protein has some activity or it may lose all activity. You might see some precipitate in the solution (always a bad sign) or you might not. Without some kind of activity readout, it seems impossible to me to know whether freezing is causing a problem. In summary, I would make up the solution to the appropriate dilution and freeze it in the smallest portions that will work (need appropriate sized containers) in the coldest part of the freezer in ice. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - freezing interferon
All this is very helpful - thanks Patricia, MC, and Joel! Gloria On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:32 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote: Interferon is a protein. It is dried into a powder which should be able to be frozen with no problem. But when proteins are dissolved into a liquid solution, freezing can be tricky. As a scientist working with a variety of proteins, I can tell you that many proteins will start to break down if frozen more than once. And rapid freezing is preferable to slow freezing. At home, the closest thing to rapid freezing could be done by putting the protein tube into ice in the back of the freezer lowering the temp more rapidly than if you just stick it on the shelf in the freezer. Proteins also generally survive freezing better if they are more dilute and freezing in smaller portions will allow the freezing to go faster than freezing in big portions. If a protein is degraded by freezing, it's structure starts to unwind. Some molecules of the protein in the solution may degrade and others won't so you may still see that the protein has some activity or it may lose all activity. You might see some precipitate in the solution (always a bad sign) or you might not. Without some kind of activity readout, it seems impossible to me to know whether freezing is causing a problem. In summary, I would make up the solution to the appropriate dilution and freeze it in the smallest portions that will work (need appropriate sized containers) in the coldest part of the freezer in ice. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - freezing interferon
thank you Patricia! i have learned so much from everyone oin this group. when would i have a chance to talk with scientists working with this sort of thing. only wish i could go back to school for the rest of my life andlearn everything that i want to know. so once again, thanks for teaching me something new. dorlis patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote: > Interferon is a protein. It is dried into a powder which should be able > to be frozen with > no problem. But when proteins are dissolved into a liquid solution, > freezing can be tricky. > As a scientist working with a variety of proteins, I can tell you that > many proteins will start > to break down if frozen more than once. And rapid freezing is preferable > to slow freezing. > At home, the closest thing to rapid freezing could be done by putting the > protein tube into ice in the back of > the freezer lowering > the temp more rapidly than if you just stick it on the shelf in the > freezer. Proteins also generally > survive freezing better if they are more dilute and freezing in smaller > portions will allow the > freezing to go faster than freezing in big portions. > > If a protein is degraded by freezing, it's structure starts to unwind. > Some molecules of the > protein in the solution may degrade and others won't so you may still see > that the protein has > some activity or it may lose all activity. You might see some precipitate > in the solution (always > a bad sign) or you might not. Without some kind of activity readout, it > seems impossible > to me to know whether freezing is causing a problem. > > In summary, I would make up the solution to the appropriate dilution and > freeze it in the smallest > portions that will work (need appropriate sized containers) in the coldest > part of the freezer in ice. > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks so much for that encouragement Belinda! I'm passing on to Toni & Lea. Your Bailey was such a little trooper and survivor, ~Kerry From: Belinda Sauro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 3:16:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Daisy Kerry Bailey's eyes did this off and on all his life, he lived to be 11 years old and it never effected him other than the appearance. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Elizabeth, there's something wrong with AOL accounts and our list. Messages to your email address have been bouncing, so the system suspended your account. Please visit: http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to reactivate your list settings. Please let me know if you need further assistance. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] posting to thread on Felvtalk
Hi Mr. Wilson! I would like to take part in the discussions about Feline Leukemia. I recently had a 9 mos. old kitten die from FeLV. I'm very concerned about my 2 yr old cat contracting the disease. It would help me to talk to other people that have experienced having exposed a FeLV kitten to a cat within the same house. Please let me know how I can start a thread and read some past posts regarding FeLV. Thanks for your help. I really need some support. Sincerely, Lynn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk] testing the list
been a while since i logged in, but best way for more people to be educated is to tell everyone about this site. i talked to someone in Canada a week or so ago and got her hooked on it. dorlis nancy denison wrote: > Taz and I are still here. I look forward to this "talk". I'm glad there is > so much good input and caring from people for the positives. I wish more > would be educated. > Nancy > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] posting to thread on Felvtalk
Lynn, I'm so sorry for your loss. I was in the very same situation recently. I lost an adult cat to FeLV in January not realizing he was a positive until he suddenly became seriously ill. From the time of the diagnosis until I had to put him to sleep was one week. My 4 other (all indoor) cats had to be tested and luckily they all turned up negative so had them all vaccinated. They'd only been exposed to the positive one for about 6 months but they shared food and water bowls, litterboxes and bedding. My vet advised me to have them re-tested in 6 months. So far they all seem healthy but now that they've been exposed I check them regularly for any sign of enlarged lymph glands, the first symptom the feLV positive cat exhibited. I hope this information helps. I can tell you that this forum has been an extremely valuable resource of information for me since losing my Chat Noir to this horrible disease. Best of luck to you, Valerie On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:10 AM, "Lynda Wilson" wrote: > Hi Mr. Wilson! > > I would like to take part in the discussions about Feline Leukemia. I > recently had a 9 mos. old kitten die from FeLV. I'm very concerned about my > 2 yr old cat contracting the disease. It would help me to talk to other > people that have experienced having exposed a FeLV kitten to a cat within the > same house. > > Please let me know how I can start a thread and read some past posts > regarding FeLV. > > Thanks for your help. I really need some support. > > Sincerely, > Lynn > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] posting to thread on Felvtalk
About 3 weeks ago I lost a two year old to FeLV. She tested negative as a kitten but obviously the test was wrong or she had just gotten it when they did the test. I foster with a humane society so I have a house full of other cats. Some of those cats lived with the cat that died for a year and a half. So far I've tested four of them and all four have tested negative. I'm going through the process of having the rest of my cats tested but after living with a FeLV positive cat for a whole year and a half I expected at least one of those four to have contracted it. Especially since they too were kittens when they came to live here with her. They had all shared food and water bowls and litterboxes. Matter of fact, I have an FIV positive adult that lives here and has been here the last two years. He came here a few months before she did. He developed asthma last year and at that time I had bloodwork done on him. Even after living with her for a year he still hadn't gotten FeLV. I'm going to test him again because he's at a high risk already having immune system issues but I don't understand how he didn't have it last year after being with her for a year. All of that to tell you not to freak out about your adult. You do need to have her re-tested and to keep an eye out for health issues because it is a serious disease, but many many adult cats exposed to FeLV are able to extinguish the virus. The last I read said as much as 50% of them could. Another 25-30% or so could put the virus into dormancy so that it is in their bone marrow but they never have problems from it and aren't able to pass it to another cat. Several websites say that only 30% of them at most contract it and die from it. There's so much reading on the web and I encourage you to research it. Everyone in this group has lots of experience with it so you'll learn a lot from here too. Keep in mind that if your adult does test positive on the ELISA test that is done at the vet's office you would need to have another test, the IFA, done to confirm it. The ELISA test easily produces false positives. Good luck and I hope your adult is one of those in the higher percentage that will never have problems with FeLV. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:10:42 -0500 > Subject: [Felvtalk] posting to thread on Felvtalk > > Hi Mr. Wilson! > > I would like to take part in the discussions about Feline Leukemia. I > recently had a 9 mos. old kitten die from FeLV. I'm very concerned about my 2 > yr old cat contracting the disease. It would help me to talk to other people > that have experienced having exposed a FeLV kitten to a cat within the same > house. > > Please let me know how I can start a thread and read some past posts > regarding FeLV. > > Thanks for your help. I really need some support. > > Sincerely, > Lynn > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] posting to thread on Felvtalk
Val, Thank you for your kindness. I am so sorry that you had the same experience. I've heard that the virus sheds when it is in stage 5. Unfortunately, the article I read online did not say how you can tell when they are in that stage. I'm so happy that your cats have tested negative and I pray that they will be in 6 mos as well. Keep me posted if you don't mind. My situation was this: I was fostering a kitten from the humane society. He tested negative for leukemia as a young kitten at 3 mos old and his mother did as well. The litter that he came from all had coccidia. Supposedly, he was cured from it, but I thought different. Before I could adpot him I had to have him neutered by a vet assoc. with the HS. I had him neutered when he was 5 1/2 mos old so I could take him to my vet shortly after. He had been in my home at 3 mos old and played with my 2 yr old cat (Muffin) all the time. Before getting him (the HS kitty) neutered, he was tested again for FeLV and it was negative. My cats groomed each other, shared the litter box, food, water, toys, you name it. Then on 3-10-11 (9 mos old then) I took him to my vet because he was acting lethargic and had not had a BM in the litter box in 2 days. He was still eating and drinking the day prior. The first thing my vet did was listened to his heart. She stated he had a heart murmur. She then looked at his gums and they were completely white and she said he was anemic and had to run some tests. She did the ELISA test and he was a faint positive for FeLV. I'm not sure if a faint positive has any meaning to it. But, I ended up putting him down that day because he was suffering (he sure did hide his symptoms well!). His oxygen level was extremely low. According to his blood work, FeLV was in his bone marrow. I did let the Humane Society know so they could have his siblings tested. I had Muffin tested the day I put the kitten to sleep. Muffin tested negative on the ELISA test. I pray that Muffin will be negative for FeLV for life (he is a Ragdoll and is a very stress free cat which is great!). He seems to miss his playmate. I'd like to get another cat but we are waiting until June to test again. Do you think if he tests negative in June that it will be safe to get another cat? I told my vet that I want the IFA test done as well as the ELISA test. I will test Muffin for enlarged lymph glands as well. How do you do this? If you could share any more thoughts with me, I would sure appreciate it! Also, how do I post a thread in the forum? Thanks for responding :0) Lynn - Original Message - From: "Val Green" To: Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] posting to thread on Felvtalk Lynn, I'm so sorry for your loss. I was in the very same situation recently. I lost an adult cat to FeLV in January not realizing he was a positive until he suddenly became seriously ill. From the time of the diagnosis until I had to put him to sleep was one week. My 4 other (all indoor) cats had to be tested and luckily they all turned up negative so had them all vaccinated. They'd only been exposed to the positive one for about 6 months but they shared food and water bowls, litterboxes and bedding. My vet advised me to have them re-tested in 6 months. So far they all seem healthy but now that they've been exposed I check them regularly for any sign of enlarged lymph glands, the first symptom the feLV positive cat exhibited. I hope this information helps. I can tell you that this forum has been an extremely valuable resource of information for me since losing my Chat Noir to this horrible disease. Best of luck to you, Valerie On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:10 AM, "Lynda Wilson" wrote: Hi Mr. Wilson! I would like to take part in the discussions about Feline Leukemia. I recently had a 9 mos. old kitten die from FeLV. I'm very concerned about my 2 yr old cat contracting the disease. It would help me to talk to other people that have experienced having exposed a FeLV kitten to a cat within the same house. Please let me know how I can start a thread and read some past posts regarding FeLV. Thanks for your help. I really need some support. Sincerely, Lynn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] posting to thread on Felvtalk
I can't believe I forgot to mention that the HS kitty that recently died from FeLV was also diagnosed with the coronavirus (which is in relation to FIP). His immune system was compromised at a very early age. Having coccidia (as a newborn) and diagnosed wih the coronavirus (at 5 1/2 mos) contributed to his weakened immune system. - Original Message - From: "Maureen Olvey" To: Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] posting to thread on Felvtalk About 3 weeks ago I lost a two year old to FeLV. She tested negative as a kitten but obviously the test was wrong or she had just gotten it when they did the test. I foster with a humane society so I have a house full of other cats. Some of those cats lived with the cat that died for a year and a half. So far I've tested four of them and all four have tested negative. I'm going through the process of having the rest of my cats tested but after living with a FeLV positive cat for a whole year and a half I expected at least one of those four to have contracted it. Especially since they too were kittens when they came to live here with her. They had all shared food and water bowls and litterboxes. Matter of fact, I have an FIV positive adult that lives here and has been here the last two years. He came here a few months before she did. He developed asthma last year and at that time I had bloodwork done on him. Even after living with her for a year he still hadn't gotten FeLV. I'm going to test him again because he's at a high risk already having immune system issues but I don't understand how he didn't have it last year after being with her for a year. All of that to tell you not to freak out about your adult. You do need to have her re-tested and to keep an eye out for health issues because it is a serious disease, but many many adult cats exposed to FeLV are able to extinguish the virus. The last I read said as much as 50% of them could. Another 25-30% or so could put the virus into dormancy so that it is in their bone marrow but they never have problems from it and aren't able to pass it to another cat. Several websites say that only 30% of them at most contract it and die from it. There's so much reading on the web and I encourage you to research it. Everyone in this group has lots of experience with it so you'll learn a lot from here too. Keep in mind that if your adult does test positive on the ELISA test that is done at the vet's office you would need to have another test, the IFA, done to confirm it. The ELISA test easily produces false positives. Good luck and I hope your adult is one of those in the higher percentage that will never have problems with FeLV. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:10:42 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] posting to thread on Felvtalk Hi Mr. Wilson! I would like to take part in the discussions about Feline Leukemia. I recently had a 9 mos. old kitten die from FeLV. I'm very concerned about my 2 yr old cat contracting the disease. It would help me to talk to other people that have experienced having exposed a FeLV kitten to a cat within the same house. Please let me know how I can start a thread and read some past posts regarding FeLV. Thanks for your help. I really need some support. Sincerely, Lynn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - introduction - Chewie and Stitch
Good evening, I don't know if anyone currently active remembers me, I first signed up for this list in April of 2007, when one cat (Chewie) was diagnosed with FELV after getting sick. I haven't been really active on here since, but I thought I'd post again with an update. My original introduction message is copied below. It is with sadness that I report that Stitch, who I mentioned originally has having been tested shortly after Chewie died has now left us, almost exactly 3 years after Chewie did. Stitch has done great these last few years, we never had any problems and had some hopes that she might have fought the virus off. Sadly, this was not the case. She started acting sick this weekend and we brought her to the vet on Tuesday. She'd lost a few pounds since her last visit, and a blood test revealed that she was very low on red blood cells, the Vet thinking that she had a bone marrow disease as she didn't seem to have any new red blood cells at all (could this be myeloproliferative leukemia, which I've seen mentioned in other places?). Given that she was FELV positive and was clearly suffering, we decided to have her put to sleep. Anyway, though I haven't been really active here, folks were very helpful after my initial post and the info and support I did get here were instrumental in keeping Stich as healthy as she was for as long as she was. It's still really hard, but I know that we did everything that we could for her. She was a very special kitty, and she'll be greatly missed. These are direct links to photos I have stored on my Facebook stage, I'm not sure if they'll work like this, but we shall see. These are both very recent photos of Stitch: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs417.snc3/25118_384112819913_539489913_3684055_4308847_n.jpg http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs437.snc3/25118_384111604913_539489913_3684051_7341747_n.jpg Thanks, Joe Reil redshar...@yahoo.com _ Howdy all, This is my first post to this list, thought I'd do a bit of intro. We had three cats in our family. The older two were both "castaways" that were adopted as adults. Zoro was the oldest and I adopted him from a co-worker when I lived by myself. He died several years ago. The remaining two were Stitch and Chewie. Chewie was the next oldest. She had a really hard start to life, she was originally found, as a stray by some friends of ours. She was probably two or three at the time and she had evidence of being abused - she had some suspicious scars on her underside. She lived with them for a while, very shy/nervous and eventually came out of her shell. A couple years later, they had to move, and couldn't take her with them so we took her in. We had her for several years as well and while we don't know her exact age, best estimate put her at 8-10 years old when she died last month. She had a loss of appetite and started losing weight. She had two trips to the Vet - after the first visit she took a serious turn for the worse so we had her back at the vet only a few days later. A blood test on the second visit revealed that she had FelV. So, considering she was very sick and was suffering from a pretty serious disease we opted to put her to sleep then. :( I didn't know much about FelV then (and I'm still learning about it), but information from both our Vet and online resources I found indicated that it was contagious so we decided to have our third (and youngest) cat tested for it. Stitch is the only one we got as a Kitten and she's about 3.5 years old. I brought her to the vet this weekend and she tested positive for FelV. :( I do intend to learn as much as I can about the disease so we can keep her with us as long as possible. I know that it will eventually catch up to her and our main thing will be to put that off as long as possible. She's still young and healthy so hopefully that'll be a long time still. :) We had been planning to get a second cat, but we've put that plan on hold now. I know it is possible to inoculate against FelV, but given that the vaccine takes a while to take effect, we'd either have to quarantine the new cat until the vaccine took effect or find it someplace else to live for a month or so, and on top of all that I don't think we want to put Stitch through the stress of another housemate at the moment (she doesn't react well to strangers). Thanks, Joe ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - introduction - Chewie and Stitch
Hi Joe She is beautiful and she will remain forever in your heart and memories. Sally -- Sally(me), Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Lionel(angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black(MIA), Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior, Hotdog (newest) Silver, and Spike ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - introduction - Chewie and Stitch
we want to put Stitch through the stress of another housemate at the moment (she doesn't react well to strangers). Thanks, Joe ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - introduction - Chewie and Stitch
Joe, I was saddened to read that Stitch has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. He was loved, that's what is important. We each do what we can to make our beloved companions comfortable and keep them health as long as possible. Treasure the good memories. Sharyl --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Joe Reil wrote: > From: Joe Reil > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - introduction - Chewie and Stitch > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 6:50 PM > Good evening, > > I don't know if anyone currently active remembers me, I > first signed up for this list in April of 2007, when one cat > (Chewie) was diagnosed with FELV after getting sick. > > I haven't been really active on here since, but I thought > I'd post again with an update. My original introduction > message is copied below. > > It is with sadness that I report that Stitch, who I > mentioned originally has having been tested shortly after > Chewie died has now left us, almost exactly 3 years after > Chewie did. > > Stitch has done great these last few years, we never had > any problems and had some hopes that she might have fought > the virus off. > > Sadly, this was not the case. She started acting sick this > weekend and we brought her to the vet on Tuesday. She'd lost > a few pounds since her last visit, and a blood test revealed > that she was very low on red blood cells, the Vet thinking > that she had a bone marrow disease as she didn't seem to > have any new red blood cells at all (could this be > myeloproliferative leukemia, which I've seen mentioned in > other places?). Given that she was FELV positive and was > clearly suffering, we decided to have her put to sleep. > > Anyway, though I haven't been really active here, folks > were very helpful after my initial post and the info and > support I did get here were instrumental in keeping Stich as > healthy as she was for as long as she was. It's still really > hard, but I know that we did everything that we could for > her. > > She was a very special kitty, and she'll be greatly > missed. > > These are direct links to photos I have stored on my > Facebook stage, I'm not sure if they'll work like this, but > we shall see. These are both very recent photos of Stitch: > > http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs417.snc3/25118_384112819913_539489913_3684055_4308847_n.jpg > > http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs437.snc3/25118_384111604913_539489913_3684051_7341747_n.jpg > > Thanks, > > Joe Reil > redshar...@yahoo.com > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1
I agree, I will NOT put my cats through painful invasive proceedures, but I see so many people in my cat groups who will do ANYTHING to keep a cat alive, even a very old cat whose time is up. Lorrie On 02-23, Pam Doore wrote: > Thank you Ardy. I absolutely believe in supportive comfort care. I pet > sit and I have watched animals get so many treatments that they hide, > cringe when you reach even to pet them. etc. I can't do that to my babies > nor would I expect anyone else too. Glad Topaz is doing well :-D. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Interferon
Hi: I received a bottle of interferon from my vet. He told me it was a 90 day supply but it says discard after 30 days on the bottle. I know many posts have said that you draw it up into syringes and then freeze and I know it doesn't last long. I'm guessing I need to do that but my vet told me to call the compounding pharmacy that diluted it and sent it and just make sure. The bottle says Interferon Alpha 2B 60 IU/ML 45 ML give .5 ML by mouth once daily. I thought I had read most people are giving 1 ML daily or 7 on 7 off? This came from US Compounding with an address in Conway AZ. I didn't get much instruction with the bottle! So I am wondering about freezing and then do you know of any economic sites where I can buy the 1 ML syringes in a box off 100 and the syringe caps? I am also looking for empty small gelcaps. Thanks! Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FeLV
Hi. I have a sweet sweet FeLV positive cat who I cannot keep in my home. I rescued her and discovered she is FeLV positive. I have 3 cats of my own, my boyfriend has three, and we aso have her 3 kittens and her sibling. We literally don't have enough roms in our house to do this and it is not safe for our other cats. if you are able to help or have any advice or information you think might help me help this amazing cat, please let me know. Thank you! Rachel ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] interferon
Thanks to everyone for their help with the interferon questions I posted and answering questions on the dosageThanks also for bringing up the absorption and whether or not to give with food as that is a question I forgot to post. I have been giving it to him in the morning after he eats but not with food. Should I be giving it before he eats breakfast? Any reason why not to give him the dose at night? The interferon came in a brown bottle that I have to refrigerate and with a 1 ML syringe. I just thought if I had to freeze it, I would need a bunch of syringes. I have a call into the pharmacy that sent it to me to ask why the bottle shows as expiring after a month instead of the 3 months they told my vet. I did originally call the # for Island on this site and they answered the phone as Franck's. http://www.islandpharmacy.com/ - 800-622-4510 - my vet had to fax them the prescription and talk to them and then I had to call this # and pay for the interferon and they shipped it within 2 days. Thanks Stacy stacy_zac...@yahoo.com Message: 9 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:45:28 -0500 From: "gary" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon Message-ID: <1cd001a54f7a454192b565f3726dc...@matrixmpc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original According to Island Pharmacy - they use to compound a lot of interferon, but no longer do it - it was not recommended to freeze the final dilution of interferon, just keep it in the fridge, they always said it was good for 90 days that way. The dosage for cats is 30 IU a day. The compound you have is made to have 1 ml equal 60 IU, so to get the correct daily dosage of 30 IU, you would use only .5 ml. Whether you use a protocol with a daily dosage, or the 7 on 7 off protocol is a choice you have to make. I don't know how your interferon is packaged, but if you do not need a needle to withdraw it and can use just an oral syringe, I would Google for a 1 ml oral syringe with cap. Most of the syringes listed as oral syringes will not accept a needle, so they are not dual purpose. Gary -- From: "Stacy Zacher" Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 1:13 PM To: Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon > Hi: > > I received a bottle of interferon from my vet. He told me it was a 90 day > supply but it says discard after 30 days on the bottle. I know many posts > have said that you draw it up into syringes and then freeze and I know it > doesn't last long. I'm guessing I need to do that but my vet told me to > call the compounding pharmacy that diluted it and sent it and just make > sure. > > The bottle says Interferon Alpha 2B 60 IU/ML 45 ML give .5 ML by mouth > once daily. I thought I had read most people are giving 1 ML daily or 7 > on 7 off? This came from US Compounding with an address in Conway AZ. I > didn't get much instruction with the bottle! > > So I am wondering about freezing and then do you know of any economic > sites where I can buy the 1 ML syringes in a box off 100 and the syringe > caps? I am also looking for empty small gelcaps. > > Thanks! > Stacy and Spanky > > > stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Maggie
Hello everyone, It has been a while since I have been able to get on. I found out last month that my FelV+ Maggie who turned 2 years old 16 days ago was just diagnosed with a grade 4/6 heart murmur. She has seen many vets in her short life and has not had a detectable one previously not even 7 months ago when she had her bi-annual physical and blood work. I took her in for her physical and because lately she has had some exercise intolerance that isn't normal for a 2 year old. Her heart ultrasound gave us a diagnosis of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Her walls were very thick and flow greatly reduced. We started he on Enalapril. I was wondering if anyone else has had the same diagnosis and if so if there was anything that worked well for your little ones. Her heart disease is progressing very quickly and I was told that with her type there isn't anything they can do to slow it down, we are only making her more comfortable with the Enalapril by making her heart not have to work as hard. Any advice is appreciated, Tanya (Maggie's Mom) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] coq10
Hi Natalie: Thanks for the info. I was thinking about adding it back. I just felt like I was constantly assaulting him with meds but if it is okay to put the coq10 and lysine and his immune support meds all in the canned food at once, then I should continue. I just wasn't sure about mixing it all together at once. Thanks! Stacy Message: 17 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:23:45 -0400 From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie Message-ID: <0ae701cb1f69$f5d70e10$e1852a...@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I wouldn't stop giving the CoQ10 because it really helps cats with suppressed immune systems - their gums, teeth - are very susceptible - CoQ10 not only prevents it but is good for so many other things. What's a little more powder in their food? Natalie stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Nuj
Rachel, I was saddened to read that Nuj has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. You are so right about trying to catch issues as early as possible. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. You all are in our thoughts and prayers Sharyl --- On Fri, 7/23/10, rache20...@aol.com wrote: > From: rache20...@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 21 > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 1:54 PM > I lost my little Nuj last > night. she was a little fighter, but in the end, she > was just asking for help in a different way. She > maintained her sweetness, cuteness, and definitely her > dignity to the very end...And she never stopped eating! I > skinny little piglet...Hemobartonella is so tough on these > FeLV kitties, so if you sense a change in energy in your > babies, or a change in behavior (acting tired or depressed), > or a yellowing of the skin (especially in ears, eyes, mouth, > belly, if you can see it), act rather quickly because the > sooner it is caught and treated, the better fighting chance > they have. Nuj is up there playing (and probably > fighting and loving it) with my little Junie. Please say a > prayer for them! Thanks, Rachel > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Murphy
Alice, I am so sorry. I was really hoping the LTCI would do it. Pet tinic and epogen and whatever else may help with anemia is usually only a temporary fix. The real problem is the underlying bone marrow deficiency due to infectivity with virus. I have been with this group long enough to have hopes for so many different possibilities. Sometimes they work, sometimes not. I know you have too. I have a long shot. I requested this for Wolfie too, but want to ask you. There is a tonic comprised of four herbs. They are anti-inflammatory, and for cancer. A host of secondary positive effects have been noted with its use including cessation of certain viral infections. It appears to seek out and destroy abnormal cells while leaving healthy ones behind. It also provides an anti-inflammatory which in many settings can be beneficial. It hasn't been used for felv as far as I can tell, but in theory I think it could help. If you are interested I can get you the name of the herbs, where to get them and how to prepare them. It takes time to do it and concentrate it so it may take a week before you have the final product. Let me know what you think. The herbs in graviola, neem and chaparral. The fourth is escaping me right now, but I can find it. God bless and I will pray for you. Jenny ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Cyst
Hi: Thanks for the news on Acemannan Gary. That is really too bad about it being off the market now. I have a question on Spanky. We have a vet appt on Saturday for his 2nd LTCI Imulan injection. Now his cyst in his whiskers seems to be getting larger. Yesterday he scratched it and kept breaking it open and was bleeding all over. Short of putting an e-collar on him I'm not sure what else to do! I've been putting triple antibiotic on it and he licks it right off. The vet will look at it Saturday of course. Should I have them aspirate it? I am just afraid of any ramifications if they open it and make things worse and he gets an infection. If the recommend antibiotics should I give them to him? He was on metronidazole a few times since march for intestinal issues. I guess I feel really stupid asking all of this but if it weren't an immune suppressed kitty, it would be easier to figure out. They suggested that his cysts could really be mast cell tumors - the one his his face grew in the last month (or became infected and swelled up). His routine has been the same, eating/drinking/using this box all okay. Any ideas or thoughts are greatly appreciated. PS I had read turmeric was good for tumors/cysts but most of what I find is for dogs and then there is a percentage that says never feed it to your cat or dog. Thanks much, Purrs, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] BOB
BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS THRU AND SOMEHOW ALWAYS COMES BACK . MY BOBY DIED WEDNESDAY THE 8TH. HE DID NOT SHOW UP FOR FOOD AND WHEN I FOUND HIM, HE WAS ALREADY GROWING COLD. DECIDED NOT TO DO AUTOPSY, WOULD NOT BRING HIM BACK AND WOULD ONLY MUTILATE HIM. I MISS HIM. HE WAS SUCH A GENTLE SOUL AND TOOK SUCH GOOD CARE OF THE KITTENS WHEN I BROUGHT THEM HOME. HE BATHED THEM AND TAUGHT THEM TO HUNT AND WRESTLED WITH THEM AND THEY ALL SLEPT TOGETHER. I HAVE PICTURES TO REMEMBER, BUT NOT THE SAME. HE WAS ONLY 5 AND THERE WAS NO WARNING . ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Mixing
OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories! Thanks, Melinda, Fuji and Shadow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] New
Hello there, I am new to this group. My cat Bodie was diagnosed with FELV on Monday, he is nine months old. I don't have much knowledge about this disease and hope that maybe some of you can help to inform me. My first question is how long do cats with Felv live? Some websites said a couple of years and some said they can live a full life. How long have your cats lived? To my knowledge there are no meds out there, right?? As far as vitamins or food, would you have any suggestions. I know that it is important to keep his immune system up. Right now Bodies is healthy and very energetic. He has an eye infection that is clearing up, other than that you would have no idea that he is sick. I feel a very overwhelmed and scared. I would love to hear some tips and info for a newbie. Thank you all so much. Kristin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] fleas
Hi Bonnie: We are located in SE Wisconsin. Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:21:52 -0700 From: "Bonnie Hogue" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No fleas Message-ID: <6af0b8e313544a64ae729fd4c49e6...@bonnietkude96r> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Stacy what part of the country do you live in? - Original Message - From: "Stacy Zacher" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:03 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] No fleas > Thanks to everyone for your help. Under the microscope, the vet said that > the bugs I brought in have wings and were not fleas but looked very > similar. He said that the lump and "dirt" under Spanky's chin was probably > acne. He did a blood draw for a full panel/cbc and took a slide of his > suspected mast cell tumor on his nose so I will post results when I get > them. The vet said his lymph nodes in the hind legs felt swollen but no > other lymph nodes did. He also got an LTCI injection and was a very good > patient. > Thanks! > Stacy and Spanky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Murphy
Alice, I'm so sorry to hear about Murphy. I will so miss reading about him. I feel like I knew him and hoped for him to beat this disease like I do my own cats. I got introduced to this disease when I found a mom and three kittens that all tested positive and have never had a cat that's not positive since. I read your posts always hoping your kitties would defy the odds and live long adult lives. You were so wonderful to Murphy. I hope you have many happy memories to bring you comfort during this sad time. Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] clavamox
Hi, This is the first email I'm sending out since 1 of my cats got diagnosed with Felv yesterday. We have 7 other cats but THANK GOD every single one of them tested negative (snap/elisa). We have to have them tested again in 6 months. Do I have to wait that long or can we have them tested sooner? We separated Oreo from the rest of the cats and disinfected everything. Oreo will be lab tested again next week, just to make sure. I heard false-positives are quit common. Oreo got put on Clavamox 125 mg to fight the secondary infections. Is the dosage not to high for a cat? I know that cats normally get 62.5 mg. She threw up this morning after I gave it to her. I will call the vet tomorrow and ask the vet about the dosage and if she can maybe subscribe injections. I hate to have to fight with her every time I have to give her her meds. Makes me feel so guilty to do this to her. She has no clue why she has to sit in a seperate room by herself :-( She also gets pet-tinic and viralys. What else can I do to help her fight of this infection. She has a cold and a fever. If she tests positive again next week, we are forced to find a new home for her. Maybe somebody who has no other cats, or someone who has 1 or more cats with the same condition. I was wondering if anyone knows of anybody who might be able to take her. We are willing to help pay for the medications she might need. She is such a sweet cat and I'm heart broken about this situations! My cats are my everything! Thanks, Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI
Hi, I want to introduce myself and my very beautiful Ragdoll kitten Kelsea who tested positive for FeLV in the bone marrow ( I know it is not a good thing) . Kelsea was diagnose with FeLV about 8 weeks ago. Right now she is doing wonderful on the treatment plan her vet has her on, which includes Interferon, Atopic and a steroid. She was on dimethylgycine to build up her red blood cells, she has been off the dimethlgycine for about two weeks now. At this point all her all her blood work is normal. She is putting on weight; over 2 pounds since her diagnoses. To look at this little one you would not even know she was sick. : ) I’m hoping someone could let me know anything about LTCI. I’m not thinking about change Kelsea’s med now, since she is doing so well. I would just like a little more information on LTCI. i.e. what kind of success has it had in FeLV. I am also wondering what are the chances the FeLV will go into remission if it is in the bone marrow? Kelsea’s vet tell me that the chances are very low, but I just need to know if it has happen to anyone out there. Many Purrr to all, Kelsea and Sharon ( Kelsea’s Mom) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Newbie
Hey, I just wanted to introduce myself. I am Katy and I have two FeLV+ cats. I live in Kentucky. I have worked in animal rescue for about a year and a half, since I graduated college in 2009. I found a 5-week old kitten, Buddy, abandoned in a gulley next to a parking lot, summer of '09. He tested positive for the FeLV blood test and tested positive again several months later. He is very healthy and is very playful. I felt very bad that he was alone all the time, when I saw on one of my animal rescue networks that another FeLV+ cat needed a home. So I took her in, het name is Chloe. So far, they are healthy and active. The only way I can tell that they have FeLV is that they test positive and they get sick easily. Vets in area told me to put them asleep now, even though they are healthy. Small town vets don't seem to be very educated on the FeLV subject. Reading all the emails lately have given me a lot of hope and I really appreciate this email list. Thanks for sharing your experiences! ---Katy Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] test
"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~ <http://www.quotiki.com/people/Fyodor-Dostoyevsky> Fyodor Dostoyevsky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Isaac
Isaac would have been 3 years young on 4.14. He tested positive along with 4 others of my inner circle of seven on 3.1.2010. I did not test further but put efforts into food and supplements. Isaac was big (not fat) black, neutered and active and appeared healthy and aggravated Scrumptious assertively. This group lived an indoor-outdoor life in the rural Carolina Piedmont. Tuesday morning he did not eat. His breath was horrendous. He liked to eat - - I used to joke with him that he and I both needed to spend time on the treadmill. That night he was not there nor on Wednesday nor Thursday morning though I searched and called. Thursday night he answered. He could not move and his pupils were dilated and fixed. He did not look as if he had been attacked by dogs or coyotes. I took him the 14 miles home and hydrated him orally during the night. He got up to walk several times during the late night morning but would walk 3 steps and wobble and fall down; he would cry out while sleeping with me or when I moved him but I did not know what the matter was. Conscious but not responsive to me. (the crying out & walking with falling down reminiscent of Torie Rose - - in her last earthly night. She was the first and original of this inner circle of 8 who was euthanized 2.28.2010). I made an appointment with a vet for Friday. He gave fluids - - thought Isaac's teeth and forehead spoke of liver failure, said his lungs were clear and heart sounded good though a little fast. The plan was to do fluids over the weekend and reassess early in the week. Vet said could be leukemia. could be poison. didn't know. I unintentionally killed him Friday night and will say no more about that. That is a heavy load. To have him suddenly in major distress was unimaginable. He was only a nanometer beyond Scrumptious in closeness to me. He and Shallie Marie appeared to be the healthiest. This is the last thing I would have expected. Thank you for hearing my story. any wisdom or insights will be appreciated. Blessings megan and Scrumptious and Luscious and Mama and Pookashay and Shallie Marie and Breanne; ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] MaryChristine
Just fyi, for those who know MaryChristine - she had heart bypass surgery on Monday, over yonder in New York State. The update from a friend of hers says that she's out of intensive care, now in a regular room, and doing well. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ImmunoRegulin
Hello All, I am new to the discussion board. My cat Mr Gray has just been diagnosed with FeLV. He is not symptomatic yet although recently, he was also diagnosed with Hyperthyroidism. He is still very active and alert and eating a lot. I have been reading that ImmunoRegulin has been quite effective but I want to know if any one of you out there tried it on their FeLV cats. Any response will be appreciated. Thank you. -- Sharon F Catalan Carpe Diem! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Rosie
Alice, I'm so sorry to hear about Rosie. I have followed your journey closely always hoping and praying your kitties would beat this. I started my journey with a leuk positive mom and 3 kitties (Shelby, Mystique, Nirvana and Hannibal) who have all since passed so your story hit really close to home for me. It has been so difficult to watch any of my cats go through this but I know it was really tough to see the disease take down one family member after another. I hope you find peace in knowing they are all together again. So sorry. Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Abbey
Okay guys we need your help big time. Abbey is felu and fel imun positive. She has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago. Mouth greatly improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower still red. Not on any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going to try to water down lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix in food. Would mixing bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help her. She does not deserve this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or baby food or fancy feast. She has a great appetite until she hits her sore area with a piece of food. She has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is thinking about steriods. Any ideas of what to do? I really don't want to put her on steriods unless nothing else to do. She is the baby that was dumped by my great neighbors and they moved leaving her outside with no food or water or anywhere to sleep unless she crawled under the slab of their house. Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can offer. Thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Abbey
Have to wait until 16th. Rick is off on 9th. He saw her on 2nd- ten days after 14 teeth pulled. I can only get her to eat watered down food such as kitten food, baby food, a/d, some fancy feast. She sits on my lap and eats usually. I got her to eat with a 500 mg lysine mixed in with food twice now. Will add bovine inteferon also tonight. She has a good appetite. Rick said she gained a pound. I have printed your suggestions and will give them to him to read. Thank you so much. Any thing else will be greated appreciated. I have only been her human companion a few weeks, but have gotten very close with her. She rubs noses and jowls now. She is so soft and pretty. Thank you again. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Terrie
Dear Terrie, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss! Your husband sounded like a lovely person and a real animal lover. And at sixty-four, he was just too young to go! I hope you get many emails from folks who admire your courage and strength in keeping on with all the things you do. You are a very strong person and do so much for the animals! Maggie Souers ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Poppy
Poppy is a little wild 6 month old kitten just tested & found FeLeuk positive. She was one 3 beautiful white with black kittens trapped on Monday. She is mostly white with a black mask & a black tail with a little white tip. Pale green eyes like those marbles we used to play with as kids. Her mother & siblings all tested negative. We had blood drawn yesterday for the IFA test & are waiting for that to determine what to do. If it's positive, then we will be trying to find a place for this beautiful little girl to live out what she has of her life. If negative, then we will retest at some point & she will join her brother Percy & sister Prissie in being socialized & readied for adoption. At the moment she is in a condo in the back of my car while we wait for the test results. I don't want to bring her into my spare room at this point when the test results are pending as being wild, catching her again right away would be a huge challenge! I have 10 cats of my own in a little house & I know that a FeLeuk cat can safely share a house with negative kitties, provided they are kept separate. I don't want her to be alone, whether she is definitely positive or turns out to be negative & I can't take in any more cats - doctor's orders. Any advice or information would be gratefully received, Pam In Wisconsin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Mixing
I have 1 felv+ and 4 felv-, all living togeather for the last 4 1/2 years. The negatives have been vaccinated, and have never gotten it from my Tigger! They play, sleep and do basically everything togeather!! AND they love eachother's company! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Questiions
Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house & was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy & looks great. She has had so far only the snap test & as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children & the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago & they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow & I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health & how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: & still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now & I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not & she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her & give her good & loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good & beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before & I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair & objective so that they can make an informed & compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LCTI
Could someone please tell me what LCTI is? I am needing to learn as much as possible at maintaining a FeLeuk teenager at optimum health for absolutely as long as possible! Miss Eleanor needs all the help I can get for her! Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Lilas
Sherry, I am so sorry about Lilas! Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fleas
I just realized our FeLV cat has fleas. Our other cats are housed separately and haven't shown any sign of them, so I'd like to nip this in the bud. I don't like using chemicals when I can possibly avoid them, but I have to do something. Can anyone recommend an effective flea treatment program for a FeLV+ cat? I'd also welcome suggestions of cleaning supplies that won't harm him. He's housed in our basement and really needs/deserves a forever home of his own. He's fully vetted (vaccinated, neutered, and microchipped). He's the sweetest cat we've ever fostered. He's a lovely blue/grey with green eyes. Photos gladly provided to anyone interested. Cindy _______ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Dexter
Hello, everyone... This is my first post to the list -- I just joined a few minutes ago. I'm writing in regards to my cat, Dexter. Dexter was diagnosed with FeLV and FIV this past October when he suffered a severe bout of life-threatening anemia. By the time we found a vet who had any idea what was going on with Dex (We had a slew of ridiculous diagnoses; including heartworm and herpes), he was in need of a blood transfusion. The transfusion (at a whopping $2200) and Acemannan treatment saved Dex's life and he bounced back within a matter of weeks. All has been great with Dex - he's been on Interferon Alpha 2B since and has been in seemingly great health. Until, that is, last week. After seeing Dex start to show minute signs of anemia again, a quick trip to the doctor confirmed that the infection was active and that Dex was heading back down the same path as last October. Since then, we've been racking our brains trying to figure out what to do for Dex. Our Doctor, Dr. Benjamin Wright at Lakewood Vet Center in Dallas, has been exceptional. He's been open to just about anything we can try to help Dex. As such, we started Dex on Immunoregulin this past Friday and Dex just had his second injection this morning. Unfortunately, Dex has seemed to go down hill in the last 24 hours. He was at a relative high point on Sunday, seemed very happy and lively, but as of yesterday and today, he is lethargic again and obviously not happy at all, while his breathing has also become more labored. Dr. Wright and I have been trying to contact the folks who make the T-Cell Immunomodulator drug, but can't seem to get a call back from them. Obviously, as I'm sure you all know, Carrington Labs, the makers of Acemannan, are officially out of business as well, so that doesn't seem to be an option. We also contacted the vet hospital that makes the Interferon Omega packet available and haven't had a response from them. Where do we go from here... Dex is only a year and a half old and is such a special cat. We just want to do everything we can to help him. We'd do another blood transfusion, but that's just too expensive at the moment. Thanks for reading, Ben ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Bitty
SallyI am so sorry to hear about Bitty. My prayers are with you . Sara --Original Mail-- From: "Sally Davis" To: Sent: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 01:16:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] VooDoo is missing Melinda I will be praying for VooDoo's return. My ittle Bitty is at the Vet now because I found him unable to move and crying. He may not make it through the night. Possble stroke, nuerological issue they did lots of tests. He is not in pain but his mind is not here either. Please pray for my lover boy he is 12. Thanks all On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Melinda Kerr wrote: > Hello all, > > It is with a very heavy heart that I am asking for some positive energy > from this group! My son's friend left a door open last night and my little > VooDoo escaped. He is terrified of being outdoors and all attempts to > capture him only scared him more! We live on a military base and there are > no wild animals to worry about and the speed limit on base is extremely > slow. My greatest concern is that around 2:00am, he tried to come home and > we absolutely scared him to death trying to get him to bring him inside. > (He hasn't been out since he came to us as a five week old kitten) I'm > worried that he might be afraid to come home. > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Dexter
We are having a hard time making a very tough decision for Dexter. In the past three days, Dex has suffered facial and paw swelling and has started having difficulty breathing. Today has been bad and he is now receiving oxygen at the Dallas emergency vet clinic. X-rays show that he has lymph node involvement in every area and his liver and spleen are enlarged and have move out of the proper body cavity. This puts him in, I think, stage 4 of lymphosarcoma. He is whimpering and obviously in pain. We don't want to give up and we are willing to do chemo for him. We want to do what's best for Dexter, but it is so hard to make that final decision. Is it time for his suffering to be over? Does he have a chance? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] DMG
Has any vet ever suggested using DMG (N, N-DIMETHYLGLYCINE)for FeLV+ cats? I AM USING IT ON A FIV+ CAT THAT HAS PAINFUL STOMATITIS IN THE MOUTH, TO THE POINT WHERE HE COULDN'T EAT; FIV/FeLV+ cats often get that condition, and unfortunately, the only suggested and supposedly appropriate thing is to have their teeth pulled by a specialist, with special emphasis on cleaning out the areas extremely well. My vet says that he doesn't like doing it because often it doesn't help at all, so we are trying DMG. I am using the liquid form, but it apparently also comes in different forms. It has many clinical uses and a variety of applications: http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=N%2C+N-DIMETHYLGLYCINE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Dexter
Ben, I'm very sorry to hear about Dexter. He sounds like such a special boy. It's never easy to know exactly the right time to let such a cherished friend go. I have lost so many to this disease and I wonder the same things at times. Did this one suffer? Did I wait too long? Did I miss something? Could I have changed the outcome? Could I have done more? I've just tried to focus on the positive. Dexter had you by his side through all of this. What more could he possibly have asked for? All that matters is that you love him and had his best interest in mind the whole time and he knows that. He was so lucky to have you and you him. Hoping you find comfort in all the wonderful memories you have of Dexter. Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] testing
I know I have read there is a chance of a false positive with the snap test. I was wondering if the same with the Elisa test? Thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question
Greetings Everyone, We recently took in a kitten someone was going to put down from our vet, and last night I was awaken in the middle of the night by a howling noise, i thought it was our older cat but it was the kitten, she was growling in the corner and for some reason went to the bathroom on the floor instead of her litter box, is this common among FeLV cats? It was dr jeckle and Mr. Hyde, she was back to her loving self this morning? I'm so confused I've never seen an animal behave like that? When my older cat was dx he was more so "sick" we thought he swallowed a bone? talk about one of the worst days ever! Has anyone else had this happen? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Retesting
Miss Nora, the FeLeuk kitty we got adopted here in Spring Green, is due for retesting. In late May she tested positive on the Elisa & then in the first week of June, she tested negative on the IFA. It's my understanding that she should be re-tested 45 - 60 days after later. Would that be the Elisa or the IFA or both? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Renters
On 08-28, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > That sounds like a good idea. RE: rental, have you had good luck > with the people you rent to? Can you specify no loud music after a > certain hour, only people in you age range? I've had some good and some bad luck. The people who gave the place the horrible flea infestation had several cats and a big lab dog. The dog brought in the fleas when she went outside, and since they were very lax about flea control the place became horribly infested. They were also slobs and hoarders and the dog crapped on the floor because they didn't walk her often enough. Cleaning up the place after them was a nightmare! After that I had a very neat renter who kept the place spotless and had one cat and a cute little short haired dog who was kept flea free. She left a few months ago, and since then we've been renovating the apt. It's just about finished and I'm advertising it soon, as it must rented by winter so I don't have to pay the utilities :-( As for loud music etc. It's no problem because the apartment is not in my house. It's on the second story of the big two story building I bought in town. The first floor is my cat shelter. I made it into a home like setting for my overflow of rescued cats. It has furniture, climbing posts, window ledges, and large cat condos. There are many rooms for the cats to run around in, NO CAGES, so they really good have a good life. I wish they all had individual homes, but I know they'd be dead by now if I hadn't taken them in as they were all abandoned when I rescued them. It has cost me a small fortune to buy this building and heat it, plus the money I spend for vet bills, food and litter is several hundred dollars a month, but it's what I want to do with a small inheritance my parents left me. Ironically, my parents were not animal people, and I often wonder how they'd feel about the way I'm spending the interest from my inheritance. Lorrie > Natalie wrote: > Well, you could enforce the no-flea rule by insisting that the dog > is treated with proof. You could even charge the extra amount for > flea products and just hand it to them. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fletch
Update and more questions. Yesterday Fletch ate very well and ate quite a few treats too. He got up and walked around the kitchen for quite awhile. I was so hopeful that maybe he was over the hump. Wrong. This morning he refused to eat or drink and hasn't done so all day. I hav given him some electrolytes 3 times today. He didn't like that a bit. He had very watery poop with hard chunks in it. That happened twice. Once on the couch, which I have plastic on under his blankets, and then another time I ran him to the litterbox. His fever is back..I'm sure the aspirin wore off and he doesn't feel good at all. Is this how this disease is all the time? Is this what his life is gonna be like from now on? Because if it is, I can't see making him go through this. I don't think he enjoys any part of this. Maybe he ate too much yesterday, I don't know. Do they go thru this and then get better. Any insight will be appreciated. Where does the fever come from? Thanks guys, I sure do appreciate each and every one of you. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Update
Hi, A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV. I was questioning whether to get her a friend or not. Last week I had her blood sent out to confirm if she really had FELV. Well her results came in yesterday, it's in her bone marrow. I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do with my house already full. I think I would need to adopt another cat with it already in their bone marrow too, right? I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I don't know what to do. April _______ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fletch
Hi everyone Very sad night, fletch got really bad, started crying and having a hard time breathing. I called the vet and asked that he be put to sleep. Well, we didn't make it, Fletch died on the way there. I feel so bad that he had to suffer like that. But he no longer will. He was just a few weeks over a year old. He was loved so very much during his short life. Thanks for all your help Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Hunters
Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season. We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our fences to retrieve the bloody bodies. One afternoon the shotgun pellets were raining down on our roof and through the branches of our oak trees and we were afraid to go outside so Mom called the county sheriff. When he arrived to talk to them about unsafe shooting... Mom noticed his hand was bandaged...an idiot dove hunter had actually shot the deputy in the hand!!! Go figure! When I drove my 25 miles to work, each morning I felt like a cardboard duck in a fair shooting gallery... groups of "hunters" parked on their backsides sitting on coolers of beer with umbrellas erected overhead would wait on both sides of the road for flocks to fly over. I managed to get to work unscathed for 5 years, but was never certain I would survive the Sept - Nov. annual killing season. Our hunting neighbor across the road went out with a few friends and came back with only one eye... not a single "friend" would admit he fired the blinding shot. Nice, huh? Georgetta ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Hunters
When we lived on our 75 acre farm hunters would park on our road and walk back into the woods. We could hear them, but never find them, so because they were parked where I could get to their cars I began letting the air out of their tires! Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Miller
Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he didn't want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in, vet gave him subQ fluids and vitamins. I had an uneasy feeling all day and when I got home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the entertainment center. He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when I picked him up, he just hung limp in my arms. I knew then that it was time to let him go. Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she helped him cross over. We may still have a house full of furbabies but his leaving has left a hole in our hearts. I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, I shall hear music but none as sweet as the song with which you loved me, I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. Sleep soft, dear Miller. . . 1999-2011 Edna, Frank and the Nuisance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] pleasehelp
Hi i have just found out tht my cat is pregnant 8.5wks to a stray that tested positive for feline aids i was due to have her fixed but was a little to late as she is 8mths now. The vet wants me to take her in to get an abortion is this the only way??? Do i have no other options?Is this the best thing to do?? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] nyssas
Jaylynne wh4adw http://m.livejournal.com/read/user/lodievuros/573?vPortiamj8612te1 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Natalie
Did you hear about this:
http://www.texassharon.com/2011/10/19/fracked-cattle-were-quarantined-now-give-birth-to-dead-calves/
- Original Message -
From: Marta Gasper
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vet meds
<>
Some shelters or Humane Societies do sell to rescuers/small shelters
for a lesser price w/o a prescription..of course it helps if they know you and
what you do (as in my case, I buy abx like clav, Biomox(amoxi) from a nearby
Humane Society, also I get Trifectant(desinfectant for cages) from them)
Marta
http://homelessnomore.webs.com/
--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Cindy McHugh wrote:
From: Cindy McHugh
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vet meds
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 8:48 PM
Lorrie,
I'm late chiming in here. I can't help you with Acarexx, but look
into
FishMox for the clavamox. It can be ordered without a prescription
and from
what I was told, it's the same as clavamox. I even ordered it for
myself
once when I had an infected tooth.
Cindy
- Original Message -
From: "Lorrie"
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 11:14 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Vet meds
> Does anyone know where I can buy RX vet meds overseas without an RX?
> With 25 cats in my shelter and at home I need to keep some basic
> things at home such as Acarexx for earmites, Clavamox (antibiotic)
> etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lorrie
>
>
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[Felvtalk] crf
Thanks Marcia. I had been thinking, due to his age and some clinical signs, that maybe Buster does have kidney failure. He has a few of the symptoms, but not excessive thirst or urination. 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4ecd075e6120f451271st01duc ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] testing
Hey all, Sorry for the extra mail. Just testing to be sure the list is working as it should. Haven't seen any traffic for a few days now. Hope all is well with everyone. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Hope
To all the wonderful people who replied to my message yesterday: thank you for giving me hope! My ginger kitty is still not well and is extremely lethargic. I spoke to our vet today and he is ordering Interferon right away. Natalie sent me some information on medication and I shared it with our vet. He will also give kitty a vitamin booster and an appetite stimulant. I feel better now that I know we can at least try something. Thanks so much for your support! Regards Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Despair
I think my kitty is dying! He refused all food today. We tried to feed him with a syringe but he is battling! Is it better to let my angel go to heaven? I can't see him suffer like this! I love him too much! He is just lying in the corner of the bedroom, hiding from us. This is a terrible disease! Marinda ! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Smokey
It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Blacki
Hi all, I posted an email to the moderator several days ago but I have yet to hear back from her. My situation is quite desperate with a stray cat that we took in. Her name is Blackie and she was sitting on my door step several weeks ago on a bitter cold day. We fed her and put her up in my garage and she has been living there the last several weeks. We took her to the vet to get her shots in attempt to get her adoption ready when the vet gave us the terrible news that she has leukemia. We have tried everywhere to get her adopted but even the shelters will put her down because of the leukemia. We would take her in but family members have asthma and the cat would make it worse. I am in Cleveland and need help. Please! She is a wonderful and affectionate cat. I can send pics if you would like. Does anyone have any recommendations for me? Thanks, Kevin - Original Message - I got the results back on Smokey today. He has fibrosarcoma. Has anyone had much experience with this type of cancer? Also, I spoke to the vet about the black salve and he said I could try it if I wanted to. I think Natalie was the one that posted about it. I need to find out what I need to do to join the group she spoke about and get some of the black salve. Cindy --- On Wed, 2/8/12, GRAS wrote: From: GRAS Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2012, 9:41 AM You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. I have felt a couple of very small knots on other parts of his body so I am afraid it has spread. The vet did take out a couple of lymph nodes too. I just can't get over how big this one was & how I could have missed it until now. The vet told me that this one will come back and he was afraid it would be pretty soon. He said there was no reason to try to remove it or any others because they would just come back. I plan on spoiling him for however long he has left. When he seems like his quality of life isn't good anymore then I will let him go. Right now he is eating and playing. He doesn't act like anything is wrong. I am so stressed out right now. I trapped a mom cat and her 2 kittens(although they are about 8 months old) and had them spayed. I found a home for the mom cat but I still have the kittens which are feral and I can't find a home for them. They came from my work so I don't know anything else to do but take them back to work and let them live there & me keep feeding them. Does that sound terrible? I just can't keep them. Anybody got any ideas? I won't take them to the shelter because someone told me they would euthanize them if they are feral. Now poor Smokey is sick. Thanks for your prayers and ideas for Smokey. I will let you know what the pathology report says. Cindy --- On Tue, 2/7/12, GRAS < g...@optonline.net > wrote: From: GRAS < g...@optonline.net > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 4:42 PM Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able
[Felvtalk] FIP
Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if given the vaccination.. This is too important not to mention L - Original Message - From: Lee Evans To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions There is no reliable test for FIP. Your cat tested positive for corona virus. Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill. FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically predisposed to contract if exposed to it. FIP is not rare but it's definitely not very prevalent. I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona virus. He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to contract. He was also a street cat, in poor health in general. Lee From: GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions YES! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal wrote: Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :( Details: Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He was just a little "off" - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like. Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think it is related. Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year. If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions: Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here? Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years. Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home? Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives with a reasonable quality? Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message. Vicky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/l
[Felvtalk] computer
I am taking the computr into Wencol on Monday. Need an update and possibly need of get rid of some bugs. Natha said mos likely, just opperating too slow and I am impatient. Preachers wife once gave me a plate "God pease grant me patience, but hurry please." Anyhow, I will be off line for at least 1 week. I will read all emails when back on line. If you need quick reply, please use phone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Ginger
It's been a few weeks since we lost our ginger kitty. I am still so sad about my darling! Do you think I should get another kitty so soon after his death? I feel I would kind of betray my Ginger kitty. Could you please advice me what to do? Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Preston
Natalie, I was saddened to read Preston has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. You did everything you could to help him. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. Sharyl From: GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter & Quigley I lost another one today – I am totally drained. Preston, who was blind and declawed, found abandoned in September in a rural area in CT, has been with us all this time, looking for a home. He finally had a home to go to tomorrow. I had been treating him for CRF and while I was giving him fluids last night, I noticed that he breathed in an odd way…I thought that I heard a sort-of rattling in his lungs when I carried him. He always purred and made cookies (happy feet) on his beloved fleece blanket…I decided to get him checked out one more time before he was to leave tomorrow. X-rays were taken – huge mass in his lungs, fluids drained were yellow and red, and he started fading fast. We rushed back to the hospital, and held him while he was euthanized….Natalie From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 4:37 PM To: feline leukemia list Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter & Quigley rocking with you and your beloveds. thank you for being here with us. what a family we have - - here and beyond. thank you for your faithfull-ness purrs & rubs cz Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:55:50 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :( Sherry, So sorry about S’Matter. I lost a cat yesterday, had to have Quigley euthanized. NOT from FeLV, but to a very severe kidney infection – he was over 16 yrs old, grey with the most amazing emerald green eyes (left on our doorstep in a carrier years ago). Natalie From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :( I am sorry for your loss :( Date : Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:30:16 -0800 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :( This morning we lost sweet scared S'Matterhe was quite the scaredy cat,but we did our best to calm his fears...he never really trusted us totally,but when I handed out treats I spotted him out of his hiding spot in the last couple monthstook pics to prove to others that he was a little braverwell I hope this wide eyed boy is calm and relaxed nowwe will miss you S'Matter :( Sherry ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Uveitis
Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] email
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[Felvtalk] Stomatitis
Kathryn, I now that you posted the holistic stomatitis protocol a while back, I thought that I saved it, but can't find it. I would very much like to try it on two of our FIV+ cats with stomatitis - one case is severe, one just a little. However, those cats are not easy to handle.would I be able to use it on them? Natalie =^..^= ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] President
Hey guys not to get off from subject butI was interested in what everyone thinks about the Presidential Canidates, is their a reason why one should choose one over the other? Obama pledges support for nearly every animal protection bill currently pending in Congress, and says he will work with executive agencies such as the U.S. Department of Agriculture to make their policies more humane, according to Global Philosophy. However Mitt Romeny has made no clear statements or policies on animal issues. Reports also show that Romney has received thousands in campaign donations from the HSUS. However, he has done a few things in his state for better laws in reference to animal cruilty. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] SusieQ
Edna, I apologize for calling SuzieQ Sophia. Hugs to SuzieQ Sharyl From: Edna Taylor To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again REALLY? Y'all think so? I don't think anyone is being mean and hateful, but then again, I tend to see the positive side of most things :) Anywho, I'll ask again DOES anyone have any advice on things I can do to make SuzieQ more comfortable in her last days. She is 2-3 years old, was diagnosed with a rapidly advancing cancer a couple of weeks ago, doctor said she was exposed to FeLuk as a kitten even though she was able to shed the virus but there is nothing we can do because the cancer has already compromised her liver, etc. Anyone have any pearls of wisdom to share > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] SuzieQ
We have tried everything and nothing is working, she is not eating at all anymore and I believe she is ready to go. She looks outside and in my heart I know she just wants to run free so we will let her go tonight. It hurts to feel like we let her down and what if we would have left her outside to run and play and just be a kitty? Bringing them inside can be a double edged sword, they get love and warmth and food but they seem to always long for the days that they were outside and free :( Edna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] President
Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past 4
yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt.
Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country, the division of our
country, we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any worse.
That is my 2 cents!
Now , back to our Felv + kitties. I am fairly new to this group and joined
because of losing my cat, Prancer. He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy life.
Then bang, like a whirlwind, we lost him. So my two questions to this group is
the following:
How many of you have a Felv cat that is 9 + years old and extremely healthy?
Have any you used Interferon for your cat?
The reason for the above questions is because my Vet ( Great Vet!!) A Father
/Son team both informed me that they have never seen a cat with Felv live as
long as Prancer and be in such great health. Prancer was on Interferon off and
on for 4-5 years. I swear by it! And it is fairly inexpensive.. $26 for a
bottle. Looking forward to your feedback! Thanks!
Best Regards,
Lisa
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Problem is that they have all lost sense of reality. They have no
understanding of what it means to be middle class or poor. They have all been
privileged tooo long
Lee Evans wrote:
> I agree that neither candidate can make animal rights/welfare a major issue
> in this election and I also agree that the economy is the major issue that
> impacts our rescues and other people's companion animals the most.? Then I
> look at the incumbent and see a man who was trussed up like a chicken about
> to go into the rotisserie and I see who did the trussing up, the Republican
> Senate.? I look at who started the sub-prime mortgage mess that led to so
> many people losing their homes and I see a Republican President allowing
> banks and stock brokers and CEO's of investment companies to have free rein
> to grab the money and run.? I see an ineffectual congress trying to get a
> fair tax program wherein people earning over a quarter of a million dollars
> a? year would pay their fair share of taxes to run the country.? Then I see
> Republicans putting up road blocks by saying that businesses would have to
> shut down if taxes were raised.? Who the heck ever mentioned
> businesses?? The problem is INDIVIDUALS who are rolling in money. I see
> Republicans coming in with smoke and mirrors and clouding the issue,
> confusing people into thinking that the tax hike would be on businesses.? I
> see a ridiculous-on-both sides health care plan with over a thousand pages of
> gibberish regulations.? What's wrong with just extending Medicare and
> Medicaid to everyone?? What's the problem with not re-inventing the wheel and
> adopting the Canadian health care model?? Then my friends tell me that we
> need a business man with a good sense of the economy to run the country.? And
> I say, these are the same people who ran the country off a cliff for 8
> years.? I don't think I want them in the drivers seat again.? Just my opinion.
?
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors
too!
____
From: Natalie
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: President
Actually very simple:? Romney?s dog on top of the car and Obama?s dog inside
the car.
?
From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen
Olvey
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felinel
[Felvtalk] Interferon
Hi All, I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate, no one saw my 2 questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived. Ok- so, I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very sick..literally overnight. He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed him to the Emergency Vet. They said he was critical , and didn't think he was going to make it. May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+ and needed oxygen and and his gums were pale. That night they extracted 3 ½ cups of fluid from his lungs. Thank goodness, because that saved his life. In the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it was his heart. He was right. The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at the base of his heart. The vet wasn't sure how much time Prancer had, however, he said it might be a day or week, depending on how much fluid built up in his lung area. Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could not have him suffer as I lost my Dad to the the suffering of congestive heart failure (with build up of fluid in the lungs). So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, since in all his years in practice, they have not seen a cat like Prancer, great health for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +. Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the typical avg span life for Felv+ cats? Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Advice
My 7yr old has up till this point shown no signs of the virus. Tuesday she was acting very odd and not eating. I took her to the vet, who ran bloodwork. Her lympocytes were incredibly high, wbc was high (can't remember the numbers), she had a 104 temp. She got injections of b12, steroid, antibiotic and I was sent home with antibiotic and pain meds if needed and an appetite stimulant. Wed she wouldn't eat again so I was syringe feeding her. I have been giving her the anitbio and app stimulant. Today she started to eat on her own, although I will still syringe to make sure she's getting enough nutrients. She also has IBD but the vet said to give her whatever she'll eat at this point to at least get her wanting to eat again. We sent the bloodwork out to a lab to assure the in house results were correct, they were. My vet wants to start her on cerenia, keep her on the anitbio and the app stimulant. We're basically going to take it day by day at this point. Since she is now shedding the virus she is staying in her bedroom (which has a screen door on it) but is a little stressed that she can't come out and visit when we are home. I've been going in and visiting as much as possible but it's hard when I'm gone for most of the day. We have another kitty who we have to get tested in 2 months to see if she was exposed. If anyone has suggestions or opinions I would appreciate it. Also, has anyone used cerenia and is there anything I should know about it? Has anyone else gone through similiar experiences and can offer any advice? Thanks in advance and sorry this is so long. Dee _______ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Impromune
> Does someone know a product called Imopromune? I am giving it to my felv > positive kitty, IKEA. Actually she is on Interferon Omega, low dose orally, > as well. > The Impromune is a inmune regulator. It is mainly a nucleotide called > nucleoforte. It smells like the yeast. I found information about the product > but nothing regarding adverse side effects. I would like to know if someone > has already used it in order to know his/her opinion Thanks, Esther > > > Enviat des del meu iPad _______ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Impromune
> Does someone know a product called Imopromune? I was given it for my female > cat which is leukemmia positive. Actually she is on Interferon Omega. The > Imopromune is a inmune regulator. It is mainly a nucleotide called > nucleoforte. It smells like the yeast I usually give to my cats. But the pill > is of a such huge size that I find it difficult for a cat to swallow it. In > the net I found information about the product but nothing regarding adverse > side effects. I would like to contact someone who has already used it in > order to know his/her opinion Enviat des del meu iPad___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Stomatitis
My Awesome Pawsome kitty just began doing this stuff. Pawing at her mouth, getting finicky and being standoffish when it comes to anywhere near her food bowl. She wasborn to an FeLV+ mom in a feral colony here in San Diego, and I tamed her at 5 weeks (to 8 weeks--took about 3 weeks) old with her siblings. 3 out of four kittens tested positive. In a couple of months time, only 1 out of 4 remained positive, and she is the one. She has been so healthy, save for an awful case of calici she got about ayear and a half ago which almost killed her, that I reallyhad been hoping she might still"turn" negative. I have heard of this happening this late in the disease. She has been asymptomatic and so very "normal" looking for 3 years. But I think the time I have been dreading is approaching. She now has something going on in her mouth, just started last week and I took her to my vet. He said she has the early stages of stomatis, he is fairly sure, though he could find nothing really disconcerting right now to be worried about, and he gave her a shot of covenia. But at home, I see her mouth more swollen, and how she sticks out her tongue over and over in obvious distress of some sort... and I see it beginning.I have seen cats with bad cases of stomatitis and I am fearful for my Pawsome kitty. For a cat born with FeLV she has been so good for so long. People have told me three years is about tops for the life span of a cat born with FeLV that becomes persistently viremic, so I guess in that respect she is lucky she has made it so long so apparently healthy,but I guess she will not be so lucky as to "turn" at this point in time. So,I now am bracing myself for mouth problems in her. I wish I had a lot of money I would investigate that laser treatment for her,but I do not. I am in rescue, and I live on SSI, anyway, so between the two I am pretty broke all the time. haha (And I now have a cat with hyperthyroid, one with fatty liver, one with FeLV+, and one with the beginning stages of an anal sac problem,which I believe is the case because she is scooting her buns across the floor alot and cries out jat times while pooping. And two semi ferals in a double connected large dog cages, that can not be loose in the apt. that I need to find something suitable for Oh, and I am taking in a 17 yr old from West LA shelter, next week,as a favor to another rescue friend, and that one will need fluids daily, for renal issues And those are only the sick ones. What a sucker I am.) Anyway, I am, paying close attention to all of this, needless to say. Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= "I'm Kat Parker. I park cats." http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Lee Evans > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Cc: > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 06:35:32 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/WHAT IS STOMATITIS? MY FELV CAT IS FINICKY > Many of the cats I have had drooled after eating or slapped at the side of > their mouth with their paw. The gum on the side that has stomatitis is > usually bright red, inflamed looking and the cat does not like his whisker > pad or that side of his face touched. In the beginning cases, they may be > what looks like finicky because they are trying to avoid pain and the food > they usually eats seems, to them, to be the culprit, so even when hungry, > they will avoid that food. Stomatitis is not just for FIV+ or FeLv+ cats. It > knows no boundaries unfortunately and perfectly healthy young cats can get > it. Older cats with a history of no dental exams are, of course, more at > risk. Stomatitis can also lead to kidney problems because of the bacterial > build up in the mouth so you need to take at-risk cats to have them checked. > > > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty > neighbors too! > > > From: Beth > To:"felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:57 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/WHAT IS STOMATITIS? MY FELV CAT IS FINICKY > > Check the mouth for sores. Usually cats will spit out there food or run away > after trying to eat because it it painful. If she is looking thin I'd look at > her gums to make sure they are pink. Most of mine have died from anemia, > which is common in FeLV cats. If any of my cats start not acting right I take > them in for bloodwork. There is so much they can tell that way. > > Beth > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Studies
I noticed something about humans that is unique to our species. We seem to have an endless ability to purposely misunderstand what is being said or proposed. And we put absolute faith in "studies". As the secretary of an animal rights organization, a genuine 501 c-3, I have been asked why I was advocating that animals be given the same benefits as humans and wouldn't that be terribly expensive. Duh? I think these people were mostly worried about their own right to eat cows, chickens, sheep, pigs, turkeys, and other edible beings. But I even hear, on occasion that animal rights advocates want there to be some form of education for animals and that if we have our way, there would eventually be no more animals on Earth because we are against ;breeding dogs and cats, etc.. Really! And when I happened to mention animal welfare, I got the response that there are enough lazy people on welfare, we don't need to put animals on welfare in addition. Welcome to the Twilight Zoned Out. OK. I feel it necessary to clear up all these misconceptions with a name change. From now on I will tell people I am an Animal Advocate. That means that I speak up for animals. Right? Except in UK where it would mean that an animal can hire me as a lawyer. I also seem to have read somewhere that rats, mice, voles, etc. reproduce, much as any other mammal does. A study shows that if the entire New York Sewer system was emptied of rats and mice and a few alligators, if a male and female rat and a male and female mouse were to be placed there on January 1, in just under a year, the entire New York Sewer system would have the same number of rodents as it had before. This study is based on absolutely no verifiable research, and is simply a product of an over-active imagination. As is the study that cats kill BILLIONS of small mammals and birds each year. I need a cup of coffee. Uh, no. Last study I read, coffee was not good for the health. But that was refuted by the former study that it is good for the health and can prevent senility. However, I can't have a sandwich any more because whole wheat or any wheat, oats, bananas, orange juice, and most food is a health hazard, except for animal based food I guess because I haven't seen any studies recently to prove that animal protein is harmful and the myth of clogged arteries from animal fat has been debunked, rebunked and debunked again. I'm down to eating floor dust. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! >____ > From: Alev >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:57 AM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] War on Cats and Others > > >Lee, > > >I couldnt agree more, thank you for this email, I will never stop talking >about animal rights to people, >take care > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Feb 2, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Lee Evans wrote: > > >There is so much nonsense, mythology and prejudice going around when it comes to diseases in general, whether cat, dog or human that it's a wonder any of us survive the ignorance rather than the disease. An acquaintance of mine was told by a licensed veterinarian that she needed to have her healthy FIV+ cat euthanized because humans can catch it from cats. Meow? My tenant, when I had a rent house, insisted that FIV was highly contagious but FeLv was NOT. Tail backwards. People to this day refuse to hug a person who is living with HIV but will shake hands with someone who has a horrid head cold and get all chummy with people who are coughing all over the air. >> >>Many veterinarians seem not to like cats to the point of finding reasons to put them to death. Others are simply too lazy to study new theories of medicine. In some cases, we have not traveled more than inches away from dancing around the bonfire to banish evil spirits as a cure for illness. >> >>Finally, we are now being treated to amazingly inflated statistics from almost comic studies that produced the startling news that cats kill rats and mice. Who would have thought!! Not just some rats and mice but toss in moles, voles and gophers, not to mention those things with wings that mostly fly. Stir with a hefty dose of sensationalism due to a slow news day, and you come up with BILLIONS of small mammals and birds being slaughtered and exterminated by feral cats. Please don't mention though that humans have hunted dozens of species to extinction just to have a head to hang on the wall or a rug for the floor, or as a way to stop male sexual dysfunction, or to carve into little statues or furniture (elephants) or just as a lovely delicacy to eat at a way overpriced fancy restaurant. (shark fin soup and other disgusting dishes). Sometimes it seems like humans will kill everything from snails to whales
[Felvtalk] Introduction
Hi everyone, I am new to this group--and new to FeLV. I just took in an FeLV+ kitty from the shelter where I am a volunteer. Her name is Dani and she is beautiful. Long story short, she and her three siblings were found outside in a box when they were about a week old. They came to the shelter and tested positive for FeLV (ELISA). They were retested and again it was positive. At 9 weeks, they had an IFA test, all positive. During this time, they were bottle fed until about 8 weeks, shuttled to and from the shelter by a staff member. They were also treated for URIs with azithromycin. The shelter cultures all incoming cats for ringworm and unfortunately theirs came back positive, so they were dipped in lyme a couple of times a week for a while and put on Itraconazole. Dani took longer to shake it off and so was completely alone for some time. During their time at the shelter they were vaccinated with 2 rounds of FVRCP, a rabies vaccine and spayed/neutered. Sadly, Dani's littermates all came down with different issues (I don't know all the details, but I know the vet suspected FIP) and were euthanized. Little Dani was left alone, in a bathroom with no windows, and not many visitors. The second I found out about her, I set up the sun room off my bedroom (it was unheated but fixed that fast) and took her home. Anyway, I wanted to give the whole background so you know just how much she has been through in her short life. While even here it is not optimal--she is isolated--it is so much better than being stuck in the stuffy bathroom. Here, she bird watches, has a ton of toys, a much better diet and a ton of cuddles (though not as much as I wish. I have 17 other cats.) I have two big questions: is it possible for her to become negative with a positive IFA result at 9 weeks? And, second: how do I best care for her? I have her on a high quality canned only diet (wellness and weruva--no fish) and minimize stress as much as possible. Are there supplements I should be giving? Are NuCat vitamins recommended? Are my food choices OK for her? I will never vaccinate or even take her to a vet (I'd have one come to me if necessary to minimize stress.) I feel terrible she is alone a lot of the time and I have thought about bringing in another young FeLV + kitty for her, but I am worried about causing stress, having it backfire. I have all the patience in the world when it comes to having cats work out issues, but I'm also very careful when bringing in a new cat, quarantining for a couple of weeks, letting her explore while I put others in other rooms, etc. But I wouldn't have that ability to do so with a companion for Dani as I literally don't have any rooms left. Sorry for such a long post! I really want to do right by her. I love her to pieces. Thank you! Laura and Dani girl _______ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] stomatitis
If your cat hs stomatitis, there is a yahoo group for discussing that problem. The group has long discussed a liquid stomatitis syrup that comes from a group in Dallas. Your vet has to get involved with the project and contact the group in Dallas. I can honestly say that I had very serious doubts about the syrup, but it works. My Abbey is FIV+ and orginally tested Felv+, but negative the 2nd and 3rd tests. She had a bad case of stomatitis and is in remission. I do not work for the group, just let people know to check it out with an open mind. I really does work. Mary Lou ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] ringworm
Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of ringworm on a felv positive kitten? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Diarrhea
Hello everyone, I'm sorry to bother you all, last night, a few minutes past midnight, Kitty had diarrhea. She had it again at 4 this morning and again about 15min ago now. Her feeding schedule has been, she ate her regular canned food with mixed water at 9pm last night and again this morning at 5am, when fed her this morning, I made sure to make to mix more water than usual with her food. There has been no changes to her diet in the past few days but she did go to the vet on Wednesday and all her bloodwork came back without issues. At this time should I start her on a broth diet? Any specific items to include? Vitamins? How long? should we take her to the vet? According to dr. Pitcairns book yogurt is also good after two days of broth, is that a good idea? How about using slippery elm? Thanks a lot and I'm sorry to be a bother, Maryam Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Dilemma
First, I would like to offer heartfelt condolences to those who have lost their Fur kids. Even when you know it is inevitable, it is always far too soon. I have a problem which involves my FeLV boy. I'll try to keep it simple. Gribble has been with me for over a year. He lives with 6 other cats. When I first found him, he tested - for FeLV/FIV. He has recently tested positive (FeLV only) after a health crisis. At the time my Vet felt that there was no point in vaccinating the rest of the bunch he lives with, but will test as/if needed. I also feed some outdoor cats. Last week someone shot one of them. Although the attempt was made to save he leg, he is now three-legged. Obviously, he cannot go back outside. While researching the FeLV vaccine I came to the conclusion that the PureVax rFeLV would be the best choice. My Vet agreed to order it for me, but the practice owner has refused. I can buy a tray of 25, but at $459, it will be a stretch. So I'm looking for some wisdom for thse of you that have been there. In 30 yrs of rescue, I have never had a cat test positive for FeLV before. Do I simply put Velvet (the recent amputee) with a different group, that have never had any issues? They have all tested negative at one point or another, but then, so did Gribble. I'd prefer to have him with my special needs group, as they are the most closely supervised. What if I can't access the rFeLV? Are any of the other, adjuvanted vaccines going to help? I know they will increase FISS/VAS risk. So far, Velvet is still caged, but his stitches come out Monday. I can take him walk-about in a "safe" part of the house, but then, I guess he has to go back to the cage. Sigh. Any wisdom would be much appreciated. He's been thru so much that I'd really like him to have a good life. While I'd much prefer to keep him, for his sake, I have offered him for adoption through my Vet. Thanks, Margo and the gang Original Message- >From: felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Apr 18, 2013 1:00 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 21, Issue 5 > >Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Napoleon lost his battle (Lorrie) > 2. Re: Napoleon lost his battle (Beth) > 3. Re: Napoleon lost his battle (DeAnna Dockery) > 4. Re: Napoleon lost his battle (Lorrie) > 5. Re: Napoleon lost his battle / stomatitis (Beth) > > >-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 17:23:22 -0400 >From: Lorrie >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle >Message-ID: <20130417212322.GA3127@lnx5> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >I am so sorry Beth. I lost a 10 month old young male to FelV yesterday. >He was the third one of a litter of 4 FelV kittens I took in last June. >I still have one, a dilute tortie, and so far she seems fine, but >with this terrible disease we never know how long we'll have them. > >Thank you for loving this boy. They are all so precious and losing >them never gets easier. > >Lorrie > >On 04-16, Beth wrote: >>I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived >>at my house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battling Stomatitis >>the last few months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday >>morning. During his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him >>under to explore further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his >>esophagus. They never woke him back up. He looked & acted so healthy >>except for the stomatits. He is very much missed. He was a silly, >>sweet, mischievous boy. & I loved him for all of it! >> Beth >>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! > > > > > >-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:01:58 -0700 (PDT) >From: Beth >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle >Message-ID: > <1366236118.49036.yahoomail...@web121606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >
[Felvtalk] Lethargic
Hi everyone, Need some advice and help. Kitty, our 10 months old FeLV positive cat is wonderful, very active and playful. Since last night, she has been laying out more than usual and today she spent most of the day just laying on the bed and not being very active. Are these signs I really need to be concerned about or just a little tiredness? It's Friday and I would hate for her to deteriorate over the weekend, Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
