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I agree, even when calling to get some public records, unless you are an attorney, they really dont take care of you that well or quickly --- I also think that if you dont have an attorney, you dont know that you have an option to fight against them --- I only knew because Greg told me that I could from the very beginning.. so when my permit was denied at the first time, I think that most of the people would have thought that they dont have any other options but to surrender their animals which is sooo wrong! Also, I think that in Albuquerque, there was no one in the past who was trying to fight against the possibility of the ordinance being unconstitutional before me according to Merry they all gave in because they did not better even a few of my friends who are in rescue organization (and these are board and president of well known rescue groups) told me not to fight against it, but find a way to go around it because I wont win But, I was never going to give in --- no matter what, though --- thats a sort of my weakness as well as strength when I feel I am right, I cant compromise it I need to fight until I get what I want and sometimes, its not the best way.. being right is not necessary the most important thing, but doing right might be more important sometimes I think the city attorney was shocked that I prepared so much information at the hearing, as no one in the past had prepared that much information to fight and he simply got pissed at the end because I did not give in --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 1:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great news about my court case - get yourself a lawyer It's so true about people who have attorneys being treated differently. This is not a very significant example, but it opened my eyes to this very fact and changed the way I pursue disputes. On one of the many relocations of my youth, I actually had a job waiting for me in NY city. The company I would be working for paid for my moving expenses and I hired Mayflower to haul my stuff from CA to NJ. I had neatly marked all my boxes and when the drivers arrived they wouldn't wait for me to inspect all the boxes. I signed off, but I included a note saying that I had not inspected everything. Sure enough several of the boxes marked tools were missing. (Another lesson is to mark your boxes in code!). My significant other and I fought for months with the moving company, through phone calls and letters, each time they would put us off. (We were insured for loss and damage btw). Finally we spoke to an attorney about it. While we were in the attorney's office, after a 10 minute conversation mind you, he picked up the phone and that quick we were okayed a check to cover our losses! Made me want to spit! Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offense taken. Merry and I actually talked for a while about this very thing-- how the city attorney and the city council started acting differently once Merry announced to them she was going to take the case and put together a team of lawyers to fight it. She said the team was going to be her, the criminal attorney Hideyo found, and Hideyo's boyfriend, but she did not say that to the city people. She just said a team would be litigating it, and she said they all seemed very surprised and then started acting cooperative. I myself, in my jobs as a legal aid lawyer, have seen over and over how differently people with lawyers are treated. It is really shocking and appalling. One of my jobs right now entails going through and reading most of the hearing decisions that come out of the MA (I am telecommuting) welfare system (administrative appeal decisions) to try to get a sense of systemic problems that are occurring and to post relevant decisions on a website where legal aid lawyers can see and use them. Most of the decisions are in cases where the person did not have a lawyer. There are so many decisions that are denied appeals, where if the person had had a lawyer I know they would have won because they were completely in the right. It makes me very depressed. Michelle
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Hideyo, we are so much alike. Someone I worked with actually said that this is my weakness as well as my strength, in those very words. I think it makes me a good lawyer, but I do not always get along with people all that well! Michelle In a message dated 1/9/2006 12:09:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, I was never going to give in --- no matter what, though --- that’s a sort of my weakness as well as strength – when I feel I am right, I can’t compromise it – I need to fight until I get what I want and sometimes, it’s not the best way..
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Michelle, Greg also wanted to thank you everything you have done for I had printed all your correspondences and gave to Greg so that he could prepare my argument for the hearing.. he was very grateful of all the time you put into to help me out and the information was so valuable! And, you finding Merry made such a huge difference to the outcome for my case. I just spoke her with this morning and she is working on them trying to dismiss the charges asap I think I still have to go to hearing this Thursday for my criminal case since they may not do it in time.. Greg is filing the motion this morning for continuance. I also told Merry that I would like help TNR ordinance to get into the new ordinance somehow with the city councilor --- the current ordinance dont consider any right for feral cats and when you think about it, its very stupid, because the majority of the animals involved in the community are feral --- and those are the ones being euthanized ---I found some ordinance in other states who protect rights of feral cats and want to do everything I can to make a difference in their lives. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great news about my court case HOORAY for Merry too!! And of course let's not forget your part in all this. Michelle, (don't argue with me), please take a bow. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Merry, Hideyo's attorney, called me yesterday to tell me what her hopes are for the case (I had referred Hideyo to her) and said she was so glad that I referred Hideyo to her because she had seen several people harrassed by animal control in Albuquerque into giving up their cats and she could not get those people to fight back because they were so intimidated by the criminal charges, etc. She was so glad to meet Hideyo and see someone willing to stand up to animal control, and to be able to help her get rid of the bad ordinance (still not final, but she seems very hopeful). She is so impressed by how feisty, energetic, and smart Hideyo is, and so happy to be working with her. Michelle In a message dated 1/7/2006 2:20:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, Hideyo mentioned about how other caring people have had to relinquish/find homes for their animals when faced with animal control regulations about numbers. I've heard of abominable stories from other rescuers too. I remember listening in horror as one very dedicated woman told me about having to pts several cats that were sick/old that no one else would take. I don't care what I would have had to do, that would not have happened in my house! Hideyo is such an inspiration to all of us. It just goes to show you what can be accomplished, when you dig your heels in and just say NO! She may be the groundbreaking force in changing the ordinances in her town and, who knows, maybe an example for other states to follow. I don't want to jinx anything here, I know Hideyo's trials and tribulations are far from over, but isn't it just amazing what she's done so far? I don't know what I'd have done in her place, I'd probably be posting from some underground hidden location, if I were her. She instead has chosen to hold her ground and fight for herself, her furchildren, and all of us that pray for the day that animals are no longer treated as property and are finally given the respect and rights due to the loved ones they are. HOORAY for Hideyo!!! Nina
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I was hoping that your working with Merry would lead to you and her teaming up on that too. That's great. Michelle In a message dated 1/9/2006 12:32:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also told Merry that I would like help TNR ordinance to get into the new ordinance somehow with the city councilor --- the current ordinance don’t consider any right for feral cats and when you think about it, it’s very stupid, because the majority of the animals involved in the community are feral --- and those are the ones being euthanized ---I found some ordinance in other states who protect rights of feral cats and want to do everything I can to make a difference in their lives.
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Tonya one of the things I learned from this experience, no one knows everything --- I mean even the top of animal care center person did not know their own ordinance and even an attorney does not know everything --- and but they act like they do.. and they try to use the power that they think they do to intimate you sometimes, all it takes is for us to research, read the law and find out what they can do and they cannot --- When they threatened me to take my cats away, I was not sure if they could or not and no one really knew for sure so I read everything that I could read, state constitution, city charter, city ordinance, and find out if there is anywhere in the law that they can and there was nothing in the law that states that they could in my situation no animals are in danger and they are well taken care of and they just cannot take away my animals based on the violation of the numbers that I had ---and I felt empowered to find out but the authority will tell you that they can.. but legally they cannot There was a similar situation where they Immigration office in SF made a mistake on my residence status at the time of entry about 20 years ago,, in stead of them giving me a permanent green card, they gave me a conditional green card which would expire in two years --- and its sort of too complicated to explain, but after reading all the case law, and immigration law, I found out that I should have gotten the permanent status --- which wouldnt have been a big deal if I did not get divorced, but I did .. so all of sudden, I was told that I need to leave the country and I kept fighting with no lawyer.. but kept reading and believed that I was right I went to Immigration office in SF, and every person I spoke with at the window of Immigration office told me that I was wrong and need to be deported.. and finally got into the top of the immigration office at SF, and he acknowledged that I was wrong and every body was wrong and misunderstood the law and finally a day before I was supposed to be deported, I finally got my permanent green card --- from the time one.. I decided not to give too much credit on government official about them knowing about what they are doing and the same applied here sort of.. if you know what I mean.. so everyone, dont underestimate your power and dont let them intimidate you.. you dont necessary have to do what they tell you to do.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great news about my court case Hooray for Merry and Michelle too! I Michelle don't try to downplay your help. Just having your ideas as an attorney have helped Hideyo hang in there. It sounds like finding Merry was a Godsend. I hope all of this pans out. It's sad (no offense intended to any attorneys or those in enforcement). but it IS sad how easily 'regular' people can be treated in these situations. Most people are very rightly afraid of going to jail and afraid of the large attorney fees that add up so quickly. It's certainly not one of America's 'best' systems, but then people in other countries have no 'system' at all. It's easy to say I would fight if this happened to me. But if it came to criminal charges that might land me in jail, or court/attorney costs that might cause me to lose my home anyway. I don't know what I'd do. I admire anyone who will stand up for what is right in these kinds of situations!! Go Hideyo! tonya Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOORAY for Merry too!! And of course let's not forget your part in all this. Michelle, (don't argue with me), please take a bow. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Merry, Hideyo's attorney, called me yesterday to tell me what her hopes are for the case (I had referred Hideyo to her) and said she was so glad that I referred Hideyo to her because she had seen several people harrassed by animal control in Albuquerque into giving up their cats and she could not get those people to fight back because they were so intimidated by the criminal charges, etc. She was so glad to meet Hideyo and see someone willing to stand up to animal control, and to be able to help her get rid of the bad ordinance (still not final, but she seems very hopeful). She is so impressed by how feisty, energetic, and smart Hideyo is, and so happy to be working with her. Michelle In a message dated 1/7/2006 2:20:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, Hideyo mentioned about how other caring people have had to relinquish/find homes for their animals when faced with animal control regulations about numbers. I've heard of abominable stories from other rescuers too. I remember listening in horror as one very dedicated woman told me about having to pts several cats that were sick/old that no one else would take. I don't
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Hooray for Merry and Michelle too! I Michelle don't try to downplay your help. Just having your ideas as an attorney have helped Hideyo hang in there. It sounds like finding Merry was a Godsend. I hope all of this pans out. It's sad (no offense intended to any attorneys or those in enforcement). but it IS sad how easily 'regular' people can be treated in these situations. Most people are very rightly afraid of going to jail and afraid of the large attorney fees that add up so quickly. It's certainly not one of America's 'best' systems, but then people in other countries have no 'system' at all. It's easy to say I would fight if this happened to me. But if it came to criminal charges that might land me in jail, or court/attorney costs that might cause me to lose my home anyway. I don't know what I'd do. I admire anyone who will stand up for what is right in these kinds of situations!! Go Hideyo!tonyaNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOORAY for Merry too!! And of course let's not forget your part in all this. Michelle, (don't argue with me), please take a bow.N[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Merry, Hideyo's attorney, called me yesterday to tell me what her hopes are for the case (I had referred Hideyo to her) and said she was so glad that I referred Hideyo to her because she had seen several people harrassed by animal control in Albuquerque into giving up their cats and she could not get those people to fight back because they were so intimidated by the criminal charges, etc. She was so glad to meet Hideyo and see someone willing to stand up to animal control, and to be able to help her get rid of the bad ordinance (still not final, but she seems very hopeful). She is so impressed by how feisty, energetic, and smart Hideyo is, and so happy to be working with her.MichelleIn a message dated 1/7/2006 2:20:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, Hideyo mentioned about how other caring people have had to relinquish/find homes for their animals when faced with animal control regulations about numbers. I've heard of abominable stories from other rescuers too. I remember listening in horror as one very dedicated woman told me about having to pts several cats that were sick/old that no one else would take. I don't care what I would have had to do, that would not have happened in my house! Hideyo is such an inspiration to all of us. It just goes to show you what can be accomplished, when you dig your heels in and just say NO! She may be the groundbreaking force in changing the ordinances in her town and, who knows, maybe an example for other states to follow. I don't want to jinx anything here, I know Hideyo's trials and tribulations are far from over, but isn't it just amazing what she's done so far? I don't know what I'd have done in her place, I'd probably be posting from some underground hidden location, if I were her. She instead has chosen to hold her ground and fight for herself, her furchildren, and all of us that pray for the day that animals are no longer treated as "property" and are finally given the respect and rights due to the loved ones they are. HOORAY for Hideyo!!!Nina
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No offense taken. Merry and I actually talked for a while about this very thing-- how the city attorney and the city council started acting differently once Merry announced to them she was going to take the case and put together a team of lawyers to fight it. She said the "team" was going to be her, the criminal attorney Hideyo found, and Hideyo's boyfriend, but she did not say that to the city people. She just said a "team" would be litigating it, and she said they all seemed very surprised and then started acting cooperative. I myself, in my jobs as a legal aid lawyer, have seen over and over how differently people with lawyers are treated. It is really shocking and appalling. One of my jobs right now entails going through and reading most of the hearing decisions that come out of the MA (I am telecommuting) welfare system (administrative appeal decisions) to try to get a sense of systemic problems that are occurring and to post relevant decisions on a website where legal aid lawyers can see and use them. Most of the decisions are in cases where the person did not have a lawyer. There are so many decisions that are denied appeals, where if the person had had a lawyer I know they would have won because they were completely in the right. It makes me very depressed. Michelle In a message dated 1/8/2006 5:19:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's sad (no offense intended to any attorneys or those in enforcement). but it IS sad how easily 'regular' people can be treated in these situations.
Re: Great news about my court case - get yourself a lawyer
It's so true about people who have attorneys being treated differently. This is not a very significant example, but it opened my eyes to this very fact and changed the way I pursue disputes. On one of the many relocations of my youth, I actually had a job waiting for me in NY city. The company I would be working for paid for my moving expenses and I hired Mayflower to haul my stuff from CA to NJ. I had neatly marked all my boxes and when the drivers arrived they wouldn't wait for me to inspect all the boxes. I signed off, but I included a note saying that I had not inspected everything. Sure enough several of the boxes marked "tools" were missing. (Another lesson is to mark your boxes in code!). My significant other and I fought for months with the moving company, through phone calls and letters, each time they would put us off. (We were insured for loss and damage btw). Finally we spoke to an attorney about it. While we were in the attorney's office, after a 10 minute conversation mind you, he picked up the phone and that quick we were okayed a check to cover our losses! Made me want to spit! Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offense taken. Merry and I actually talked for a while about this very thing-- how the city attorney and the city council started acting differently once Merry announced to them she was going to take the case and put together a team of lawyers to fight it. She said the "team" was going to be her, the criminal attorney Hideyo found, and Hideyo's boyfriend, but she did not say that to the city people. She just said a "team" would be litigating it, and she said they all seemed very surprised and then started acting cooperative. I myself, in my jobs as a legal aid lawyer, have seen over and over how differently people with lawyers are treated. It is really shocking and appalling. One of my jobs right now entails going through and reading most of the hearing decisions that come out of the MA (I am telecommuting) welfare system (administrative appeal decisions) to try to get a sense of systemic problems that are occurring and to post relevant decisions on a website where legal aid lawyers can see and use them. Most of the decisions are in cases where the person did not have a lawyer. There are so many decisions that are denied appeals, where if the person had had a lawyer I know they would have won because they were completely in the right. It makes me very depressed. Michelle
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Hideyo~ Such wonderful news. Hard work and perseverance certainly worked. You are blazing new trails... Hope you are giving yourself a pat on the back. I am so happy to hear the news! Hugs, Patti
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You know, Hideyo mentioned about how other caring people have had to relinquish/find homes for their animals when faced with animal control regulations about numbers. I've heard of abominable stories from other rescuers too. I remember listening in horror as one very dedicated woman told me about having to pts several cats that were sick/old that no one else would take. I don't care what I would have had to do, that would not have happened in my house! Hideyo is such an inspiration to all of us. It just goes to show you what can be accomplished, when you dig your heels in and just say NO! She may be the groundbreaking force in changing the ordinances in her town and, who knows, maybe an example for other states to follow. I don't want to jinx anything here, I know Hideyo's trials and tribulations are far from over, but isn't it just amazing what she's done so far? I don't know what I'd have done in her place, I'd probably be posting from some underground hidden location, if I were her. She instead has chosen to hold her ground and fight for herself, her furchildren, and all of us that pray for the day that animals are no longer treated as "property" and are finally given the respect and rights due to the loved ones they are. HOORAY for Hideyo!!! Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hideyo~ Such wonderful news. Hard work and perseverance certainly worked. You are blazing new trails... Hope you are giving yourself a pat on the back. I am so happy to hear the news! Hugs, Patti
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Yes, Merry, Hideyo's attorney, called me yesterday to tell me what her hopes are for the case (I had referred Hideyo to her) and said she was so glad that I referred Hideyo to her because she had seen several people harrassed by animal control in Albuquerque into giving up their cats and she could not get those people to fight back because they were so intimidated by the criminal charges, etc. She was so glad to meet Hideyo and see someone willing to stand up to animal control, and to be able to help her get rid of the bad ordinance (still not final, but she seems very hopeful). She is so impressed by how feisty, energetic, and smart Hideyo is, and so happy to be working with her. Michelle In a message dated 1/7/2006 2:20:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, Hideyo mentioned about how other caring people have had to relinquish/find homes for their animals when faced with animal control regulations about numbers. I've heard of abominable stories from other rescuers too. I remember listening in horror as one very dedicated woman told me about having to pts several cats that were sick/old that no one else would take. I don't care what I would have had to do, that would not have happened in my house! Hideyo is such an inspiration to all of us. It just goes to show you what can be accomplished, when you dig your heels in and just say NO! She may be the groundbreaking force in changing the ordinances in her town and, who knows, maybe an example for other states to follow. I don't want to jinx anything here, I know Hideyo's trials and tribulations are far from over, but isn't it just amazing what she's done so far? I don't know what I'd have done in her place, I'd probably be posting from some underground hidden location, if I were her. She instead has chosen to hold her ground and fight for herself, her furchildren, and all of us that pray for the day that animals are no longer treated as "property" and are finally given the respect and rights due to the loved ones they are. HOORAY for Hideyo!!!Nina
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HOORAY for Merry too!! And of course let's not forget your part in all this. Michelle, (don't argue with me), please take a bow. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Merry, Hideyo's attorney, called me yesterday to tell me what her hopes are for the case (I had referred Hideyo to her) and said she was so glad that I referred Hideyo to her because she had seen several people harrassed by animal control in Albuquerque into giving up their cats and she could not get those people to fight back because they were so intimidated by the criminal charges, etc. She was so glad to meet Hideyo and see someone willing to stand up to animal control, and to be able to help her get rid of the bad ordinance (still not final, but she seems very hopeful). She is so impressed by how feisty, energetic, and smart Hideyo is, and so happy to be working with her. Michelle In a message dated 1/7/2006 2:20:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, Hideyo mentioned about how other caring people have had to relinquish/find homes for their animals when faced with animal control regulations about numbers. I've heard of abominable stories from other rescuers too. I remember listening in horror as one very dedicated woman told me about having to pts several cats that were sick/old that no one else would take. I don't care what I would have had to do, that would not have happened in my house! Hideyo is such an inspiration to all of us. It just goes to show you what can be accomplished, when you dig your heels in and just say NO! She may be the groundbreaking force in changing the ordinances in her town and, who knows, maybe an example for other states to follow. I don't want to jinx anything here, I know Hideyo's trials and tribulations are far from over, but isn't it just amazing what she's done so far? I don't know what I'd have done in her place, I'd probably be posting from some underground hidden location, if I were her. She instead has chosen to hold her ground and fight for herself, her furchildren, and all of us that pray for the day that animals are no longer treated as "property" and are finally given the respect and rights due to the loved ones they are. HOORAY for Hideyo!!! Nina
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FANTASTIC!! YAY!!!Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great newsabout my court case regarding the pet limit law.The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion whichspecifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting nextMonday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges againstme for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense topursuit it.Also, the city councilor who is working on new ordinance also agrees todrop the pet limit law from her proposal - she is planning to presenther new ordinance at the city councilor meeting on 18th - IF, thisordinance is passed, Albuquerque will have no more pet limit law! I amgoing to meet with the city councilor, and Merry, and Viqui who is onadvisory board on Animal services division next week before sheintroduces her new ordinance so that I can share all the research I havedone to back up no pet limit law in case she needs to defend it duringthe meeting!I am just so excited about this! Nothing is 100%, but it's definitelygoing for a right direction!!Thank you everyone for all your support, and I will definitely keep youposted!
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Hideyo-I am thrilled for you! OK, as you say, nothing is definite, BUT the direction it's going in is most definitely encouraging and gives reason to hope that it will keep going right along that way!!! (Your lawyer's name is a good omen, too, I think!) We're all right behind you--keep posting when you get news and time! lots of love, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Great news about my court case Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great news about my court case regarding the pet limit law. The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion which specifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting next Monday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges against me for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense to pursuit it. Also, the city councilor who is working on new ordinance also agrees to drop the pet limit law from her proposal - she is planning to present her new ordinance at the city councilor meeting on 18th - IF, this ordinance is passed, Albuquerque will have no more pet limit law! I am going to meet with the city councilor, and Merry, and Viqui who is on advisory board on Animal services division next week before she introduces her new ordinance so that I can share all the research I have done to back up no pet limit law in case she needs to defend it during the meeting! I am just so excited about this! Nothing is 100%, but it's definitely going for a right direction!! Thank you everyone for all your support, and I will definitely keep you posted! hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Hideyo, this is wonderful!! Way to go!!Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great newsabout my court case regarding the pet limit law.The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion whichspecifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting nextMonday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges againstme for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense topursuit it.Also, the city councilor who is working on new ordinance also agrees todrop the pet limit law from her proposal - she is planning to presenther new ordinance at the city councilor meeting on 18th - IF, thisordinance is passed, Albuquerque will have no more pet limit law! I amgoing to meet with the city councilor, and Merry, and Viqui who is onadvisory board on Animal services division next week before sheintroduces her new ordinance so that I can share all the research I havedone to back up no pet limit law in case she needs to defend it duringthe meeting!I am just so excited about this! Nothing is 100%, but it's definitelygoing for a right direction!!Thank you everyone for all your support, and I will definitely keep youposted!
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Hideyo, Fantastic news about your court case!!! Who knew?! What a turn of events! Someone up there is looking out for you...probably all your furbabies over the Rainbow Bridge. And probably Cricket too. I am so happy for you. Please keep us posted as to the results of the new ordinance. This could be a landmark situation that helps others who rescue animals. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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WooHoo Hideyo!! _ .-. ( \ (^.^) ) ) _) (,' / ,' / ( (\( --- me doing my happy dance for you!! \_)\\ )) / , / ( ( ( ) ;) ; (_/(_/ Kat (Mew Jersey) On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great news about my court case regarding the pet limit law. The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion which specifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting next Monday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges against me for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense to pursuit it.
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Kat that is a really cute dancing body... wish I was that inventive
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Hideyo, yeaa, that's great! Congratulations on hanging in there, and looks like you (and we) are going to succeed! Gloria At 12:07 PM 1/6/2006, you wrote: Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great news about my court case regarding the pet limit law. The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion which specifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting next Monday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges against me for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense to pursuit it. Also, the city councilor who is working on new ordinance also agrees to drop the pet limit law from her proposal - she is planning to present her new ordinance at the city councilor meeting on 18th - IF, this ordinance is passed, Albuquerque will have no more pet limit law! I am going to meet with the city councilor, and Merry, and Viqui who is on advisory board on Animal services division next week before she introduces her new ordinance so that I can share all the research I have done to back up no pet limit law in case she needs to defend it during the meeting! I am just so excited about this! Nothing is 100%, but it's definitely going for a right direction!! Thank you everyone for all your support, and I will definitely keep you posted!
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Hideyo, this is so absolutely amazing!! Yay!! And you have helped others too! Michelle
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Michelle, I know its a bit too early to celebrate as new ordinance is not still changed for sure and may not be passed but I have to credit you so much for the outcome of this You have been just amazingly helpful to me.. I am so grateful to have you on my side.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great news about my court case Hideyo, this is so absolutely amazing!! Yay!! And you have helped others too! Michelle
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No, you were the one trying to change the ordinance. All I really did was give you tips for a hearing that you lost, and for a court case that never materialized, and helped find Merry. I am so happy for you, though. Michelle In a message dated 1/6/2006 3:42:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, I know it’s a bit too early to celebrate as new ordinance is not still changed for sure and may not be passed – but I have to credit you so much for the outcome of this – You have been just amazingly helpful to me.. I am so grateful to have you on my side..
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Awesome news, Hideyo! Terri in NJ =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:07 PM Subject: RE: Great news about my court case Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great newsabout my court case regarding the pet limit law.The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion whichspecifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting nextMonday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges againstme for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense topursuit it.Also, the city councilor who is working on new ordinance also agrees todrop the pet limit law from her proposal - she is planning to presenther new ordinance at the city councilor meeting on 18th - IF, thisordinance is passed, Albuquerque will have no more pet limit law! I amgoing to meet with the city councilor, and Merry, and Viqui who is onadvisory board on Animal services division next week before sheintroduces her new ordinance so that I can share all the research I havedone to back up no pet limit law in case she needs to defend it duringthe meeting!I am just so excited about this! Nothing is 100%, but it's definitelygoing for a right direction!!Thank you everyone for all your support, and I will definitely keep youposted!
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I am so sure that your Cricket was on my side, too along with my Garfunkle, George and all the furball babies that we have encountered or have not yet encountered. I have so many sad stories how responsible cat owners had to surrender their kitties to due to this ordinance and I really hope that this will make our furrball lives better a little bit.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Great news about my court case Hideyo, Fantastic news about your court case!!! Who knew?! What a turn of events! Someone up there is looking out for you...probably all your furbabies over the Rainbow Bridge. And probably Cricket too. I am so happy for you. Please keep us posted as to the results of the new ordinance. This could be a landmark situation that helps others who rescue animals. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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I also realized that the pet limit law was born with the common MISCONCEPTION that more animals cause more problems and unfortunately, lots of people think its a common SENSE, but its really common misconception. And I have stats from animal care center to prove it (80% of complaints that animal service division receive in 2004 and 2005 are from a single animal household -) I think we almost have to undo the damage caused by the misconception and re-educate them that its not true.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great news about my court case No, you were the one trying to change the ordinance. All I really did was give you tips for a hearing that you lost, and for a court case that never materialized, and helped find Merry. I am so happy for you, though. Michelle In a message dated 1/6/2006 3:42:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, I know its a bit too early to celebrate as new ordinance is not still changed for sure and may not be passed but I have to credit you so much for the outcome of this You have been just amazingly helpful to me.. I am so grateful to have you on my side..
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wonderful news, hideyo! -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
