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Go even future and look into what other religions teach about animals and their souls. And realize how arrogant people are who believe they are the only ones God cares about. And remember further (OK I have had this discussion with some well meaning people before) animals were not thrown out of the Garden of Eden, people were. Animals need no redemption. They are as they always have been and always will be--the perfect works of the Creator. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: Re: OT: Dreams I feel your pain Michelle. It's pretty intense for you too. This may sound crazy to some of you out there, but early this morning I got up to use the restroom, and as I lay back down, I looked at the end of my bed where Cricket used to sleep all night by my feet (why there I don't know-lol). Anyway, of course Cricket wasn't there, and as we are having a seriously unseasonably warm winter here in Dallas, I felt sadness because Cricket didn't get to enjoy October/fall the way we normally did, enjoying the breeze through the windows and going outside (new dog) to explore in the great weather. As soon as that thought entered my mind as I lay there, a calm male voice came into my head and said to me, 'my child, Cricket has gotten to do all that and more since he left you.' It shocked me, but I felt I should say something, so I said, "But I miss him so much and it hurts." But that was it; no more voice. So I'm not sure what to make of this, except that I believe that an Angel or maybe God himself said that to me, which is a good thing. The grieving and sadness is getting less for me, the calmness more. I believe the Rainbow Bridge website poem, which says that Cricket will be waiting for me when I cross too. The website also has quotes from the Bible regarding animals, and it's funny: I study the Bible, but not what the Bible says about animals, and have struggled like Michelle on whether or not that animals are just 'gone' after they die, or if they have spirits. I was really surprised to see all the quotes in the Bible regarding animals. It basically says that God has a covenant not only with humans, but with all living animals as well. Pretty neat for me. Please, I don't want anyone thinking I am preaching. I wouldn't know how to preach if I had to. lol. I am just sharing information because I know some of you out there would be interested. I learn something new here everyday!!! For anyone who wants to see the quotes, the link is here: http://rainbowsbridge.com/Grief_Support_Center/Grief_Support/scripture.htm :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been following this thread and wanted to say something, but I can not figure out what it is that I want to say. I have longed for a sign from mine also, and fear that the lack of a sign means either that there is nothing after death or that they are mad at me for what I did or did not do in their last days. When I have seen them in dreams, I do not know what that means either. All of it is painful. If the good dreams about them are a sign of something, are the bad dreams about them a sign also? Because I have a lot of those too. I relate to the feeling of thinking Maizee jumped on the couch. We used to take our dogs in the car a lot to go to conservation land for walks, and it is only recently, almost 8 months after our last dog died, that I have stopped thinking they are in the back seat. There are certain words that Gray and I used to have to say in code because the dogs understood them and would get all excited (e.g. walk, hungry, food, grandma -- they loved my mom and knew her by "grandma"). Sometimes we still find ourselves avoiding those words, and when we realize we don't need to anymore it really hurts. I feel like I see Simon every time I see a picture of a round-faced orange cat. It has gotten to the point in our house where most weeks have a death anniversary in them. This Saturday is Buddy's. It is about all we can do sometimes just to go on. Michelle In a message dated 1/17/2006 5:58:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wendy I feel the same as you do.I am still waiting for a sign that she forgives me and knows that I love her so much.It is very hard for me still and it has been 2 months since she left me and I still have really bad days where I cry my heart out.I keep asking her if she sent Raffe
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Wendy, I didn't mean that I wonder if animals don't have a spirit and humans do. I meant I wonder if there is anything for any of us after death. If there is something for humans I am sure it is there for animals too. Michelle In a message dated 1/20/2006 12:08:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have struggled like Michelle onwhether or not that animals are just 'gone' after theydie, or if they have spirits.
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Wendy, God sends his angels to bring messages all the time, there are angels in EVERY religion just as God is present in EVERY religion. Trust that one spoke to you and be comforted by it. (Personally, I don't believe you have to be Christian to get to Heaven...I believe you have to do good, love others and try your best and God, who loves all its creations will take all this into account -I don't believe God is political...that said:) While teaching teens in Bible school we got on the subject of whether animals have souls. Believing they do, I quoted several parts of the Bible that mentioned God's promises not only to man but to beast. (In the story of Noah it states that if a beast draws human blood it would be held accountable...why? If it had no soul? In Revelations the angels descend on horseback, how? If animals have no souls, where did the horses come from to come down from Heaven?) But it was summed up best by a 15 year old girl in my class. When one of her classmates argued animals have no souls, that Christ came to "save mankind...He didn't die to give animals eternal life" - "Of course NOT!" she interrupted "Animals NEVER DEFIED THEIR GOD! They NEVER LOST THEIR RIGHT TO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!" -truer words..I believe...were never spoken ... 'nough said ;-)wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I feel your pain Michelle. It's pretty intense foryou too.This may sound crazy to some of you out there, butearly this morning I got up to use the restroom, andas I lay back down, I looked at the end of my bedwhere Cricket used to sleep all night by my feet (whythere I don't know-lol). Anyway, of course Cricketwasn't there, and as we are having a seriouslyunseasonably warm winter here in Dallas, I feltsadness because Cricket didn't get to enjoyOctober/fall the way we normally did, enjoying thebreeze through the windows and going outside (new dog)to explore in the great weather. As soon as thatthought entered my mind as I lay there, a calm malevoice came into my head and said to me, 'my child,Cricket has gotten to do all that and more since heleft you.' It shocked me, but I felt I should saysomething, so I said, "But I miss him so much and ithurts." But that was it; no more voice. So I'm notsure what to make of this, except that I believe thatan Angel or maybe God himself said that to me, whichis a good thing. The grieving and sadness is gettingless for me, the calmness more. I believe the RainbowBridge website poem, which says that Cricket will bewaiting for me when I cross too. The website also hasquotes from the Bible regarding animals, and it'sfunny: I study the Bible, but not what the Bible saysabout animals, and have struggled like Michelle onwhether or not that animals are just 'gone' after theydie, or if they have spirits. I was really surprisedto see all the quotes in the Bible regarding animals. It basically says that God has a covenant not onlywith humans, but with all living animals as well. Pretty neat for me. Please, I don't want anyonethinking I am preaching. I wouldn't know how topreach if I had to. lol. I am just sharinginformation because I know some of you out there wouldbe interested. I learn something new here everyday!!!For anyone who wants to see the quotes, the link ishere:http://rainbowsbridge.com/Grief_Support_Center/Grief_Support/scripture.htm:)Wendy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > I have been following this thread and wanted to say> something, but I can not > figure out what it is that I want to say. I have> longed for a sign from > mine also, and fear that the lack of a sign means> either that there is nothing > after death or that they are mad at me for what I> did or did not do in their > last days. When I have seen them in dreams, I do> not know what that means > either. All of it is painful. If the good dreams> about them are a sign of > something, are the bad dreams about them a sign> also? Because I have a lot of those > too. > > I relate to the feeling of thinking Maizee jumped on> the couch. We used to > take our dogs in the car a lot to go to conservation> land for walks, and it is > only recently, almost 8 months after our last dog> died, that I have stopped > thinking they are in the back seat. There are> certain words that Gray and I > used to have to say in code because the dogs> understood them and would get all > excited (e.g. walk, hungry, food, grandma -- they> loved my mom and knew her > by "grandma"). Sometimes we still find ourselves> avoiding those words, and > when we realize we don't need to anymore it really> hurts. I feel like I see > Simon every time I see a picture of a round-faced> orange cat. It has gotten > to the point in our house where most weeks have a> death anniversary in them. > This Saturday is Buddy's. It is about all we can do> sometimes just to go on.> Michelle> > In a message dated 1/17/2006 5:58:56 P.M. Eastern> Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:> > Wendy I feel the same as you do.I am still waiting> for a s
Re: OT: Dreams-Michelle
Michelle, The best I can tell you is this: Sometimes, dreams are just dreams. More likely than not most of the bad dreams you are having are prob. a manifestation of your own guilt (deserved or no, it doesn't matter, & grief). You might be getting visitations of your lost ones, only to have your own guilt & grief get in the way of the real message and warp the dream. Dreams CAN be controled. Visitations can not. That's the best way to determine the difference. If it is really upseting you, practice telling yourself, just before bedtime that you are going to switch places with the characters in your dream...or change another character's appearance, or the landscape of the dream itself...with practice, you will be able to manipulate the players & settings in your dreams. It takes time, but after you are finding that you can do this on a regular basis, attempt to do it when you are dreaming about your lost critters. If you are feeling guilty: 1) take a realistic look at the situation- ALL LIFE AS WE KNOW IT, ENDS. You can't stop that. The bodies die. If you are guilty because you couldn't make them live forever, you need to get a hold of yourself and be realistic. Animals know they die. They aren't going to hold you responsible for that. 2) If you still can not shake the guilt, or believe there is something to be guilty about (realistically or no) when you dream of your animals...APOLOGIZE to them. EXPLAIN why you chose the course of action that you did. Tell them you love them. They love you. Even if they weren't ready to go (and sometimes, if you've allowed others to persued you to make the final decision at a time when you weren't comfortable with it...you really feel the result of this) it will help them to understand and accept the fact that their physcial life with you has ended and it is ok for them to go on. Like people, if an animal was not ready to go (whether or not its body was ready) its soul can be somewhat restless, bewildered. Great guilt or grief by loved ones can farther confuse it and "hold it bound to its former physcial life". You need to accept the death of the body, and be willing to let the soul continue without you. It is someplace you cannot follow at the moment. But don't feel frightened for it, that would be felt by the one who has passed. Remember, the soul existed before it came into your care, and will exist after. (If you believe in a Creator, believe & trust that the one who made us, loves us more than we can possibly love each other, and will take care of your loved ones, when you cannot). The time that you experience together, the shared love, that will go with the one who has passed, just as its love will stay with you. That hole you feel in your heart...the piece that filled that hole is going with the soul that you loved, to keep them from missing you so terribly to keep you with them when you cannot physcially be therejust as a piece of that soul will always stay with you. It is ok to grieve, but try to remain open to all the wonders that will come. It is the best way to truly stay connected with those who have passed before us. Be Blessed and at Peace. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have been following this thread and wanted to say something, but I can not figure out what it is that I want to say. I have longed for a sign from mine also, and fear that the lack of a sign means either that there is nothing after death or that they are mad at me for what I did or did not do in their last days. When I have seen them in dreams, I do not know what that means either. All of it is painful. If the good dreams about them are a sign of something, are the bad dreams about them a sign also? Because I have a lot of those too. I relate to the feeling of thinking Maizee jumped on the couch. We used to take our dogs in the car a lot to go to conservation land for walks, and it is only recently, almost 8 months after our last dog died, that I have stopped thinking they are in the back seat. There are certain words that Gray and I used to have to say in code because the dogs understood them and would get all excited (e.g. walk, hungry, food, grandma -- they loved my mom and knew her by "grandma"). Sometimes we still find ourselves avoiding those words, and when we realize we don't need to anymore it really hurts. I feel like I see Simon every time I see a picture of a round-faced orange cat. It has gotten to the point in our house where most weeks have a death anniversary in them. This Saturday is Buddy's. It is about all we can do sometimes just to go on. Michelle In a message dated 1/17/2006 5:58:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Wendy I feel the same as you do.I am still waiting for a sign that she forgives me and knows that I love her so much.It is very hard for me still and it has been 2 months since she left me and I still have really bad days where I cry my heart out.
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I feel your pain Michelle. It's pretty intense for you too. This may sound crazy to some of you out there, but early this morning I got up to use the restroom, and as I lay back down, I looked at the end of my bed where Cricket used to sleep all night by my feet (why there I don't know-lol). Anyway, of course Cricket wasn't there, and as we are having a seriously unseasonably warm winter here in Dallas, I felt sadness because Cricket didn't get to enjoy October/fall the way we normally did, enjoying the breeze through the windows and going outside (new dog) to explore in the great weather. As soon as that thought entered my mind as I lay there, a calm male voice came into my head and said to me, 'my child, Cricket has gotten to do all that and more since he left you.' It shocked me, but I felt I should say something, so I said, "But I miss him so much and it hurts." But that was it; no more voice. So I'm not sure what to make of this, except that I believe that an Angel or maybe God himself said that to me, which is a good thing. The grieving and sadness is getting less for me, the calmness more. I believe the Rainbow Bridge website poem, which says that Cricket will be waiting for me when I cross too. The website also has quotes from the Bible regarding animals, and it's funny: I study the Bible, but not what the Bible says about animals, and have struggled like Michelle on whether or not that animals are just 'gone' after they die, or if they have spirits. I was really surprised to see all the quotes in the Bible regarding animals. It basically says that God has a covenant not only with humans, but with all living animals as well. Pretty neat for me. Please, I don't want anyone thinking I am preaching. I wouldn't know how to preach if I had to. lol. I am just sharing information because I know some of you out there would be interested. I learn something new here everyday!!! For anyone who wants to see the quotes, the link is here: http://rainbowsbridge.com/Grief_Support_Center/Grief_Support/scripture.htm :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have been following this thread and wanted to say > something, but I can not > figure out what it is that I want to say. I have > longed for a sign from > mine also, and fear that the lack of a sign means > either that there is nothing > after death or that they are mad at me for what I > did or did not do in their > last days. When I have seen them in dreams, I do > not know what that means > either. All of it is painful. If the good dreams > about them are a sign of > something, are the bad dreams about them a sign > also? Because I have a lot of those > too. > > I relate to the feeling of thinking Maizee jumped on > the couch. We used to > take our dogs in the car a lot to go to conservation > land for walks, and it is > only recently, almost 8 months after our last dog > died, that I have stopped > thinking they are in the back seat. There are > certain words that Gray and I > used to have to say in code because the dogs > understood them and would get all > excited (e.g. walk, hungry, food, grandma -- they > loved my mom and knew her > by "grandma"). Sometimes we still find ourselves > avoiding those words, and > when we realize we don't need to anymore it really > hurts. I feel like I see > Simon every time I see a picture of a round-faced > orange cat. It has gotten > to the point in our house where most weeks have a > death anniversary in them. > This Saturday is Buddy's. It is about all we can do > sometimes just to go on. > Michelle > > In a message dated 1/17/2006 5:58:56 P.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Wendy I feel the same as you do.I am still waiting > for a sign that she > forgives me and knows that I love her so much.It is > very hard for me still and it > has been 2 months since she left me and I still have > really bad days where I > cry my heart out.I keep asking her if she sent > Rafferty to me,he is such a > sweetie,he helps me on my low days.I know we will > heal to a point where we can > think of them and not cry.I have had a few weird > experiences since she > passed,my boyfriend and I both have. I was eating > popcorn and watching ER one night > and it felt like she jumped on the couch next to > me.I just smiled and said > hi Maizee.I wasn't even thinking about her at that > moment.Maybe if we don't > look too hard for a sign,they will let us know then. > Sherry > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I have been following this thread and wanted to say something, but I can not figure out what it is that I want to say. I have longed for a sign from mine also, and fear that the lack of a sign means either that there is nothing after death or that they are mad at me for what I did or did not do in their last days. When I have seen them in dreams, I do not know what that means either. All of it is painful. If the good dreams about them are a sign of something, are the bad dreams about them a sign also? Because I have a lot of those too. I relate to the feeling of thinking Maizee jumped on the couch. We used to take our dogs in the car a lot to go to conservation land for walks, and it is only recently, almost 8 months after our last dog died, that I have stopped thinking they are in the back seat. There are certain words that Gray and I used to have to say in code because the dogs understood them and would get all excited (e.g. walk, hungry, food, grandma -- they loved my mom and knew her by "grandma"). Sometimes we still find ourselves avoiding those words, and when we realize we don't need to anymore it really hurts. I feel like I see Simon every time I see a picture of a round-faced orange cat. It has gotten to the point in our house where most weeks have a death anniversary in them. This Saturday is Buddy's. It is about all we can do sometimes just to go on. Michelle In a message dated 1/17/2006 5:58:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wendy I feel the same as you do.I am still waiting for a sign that she forgives me and knows that I love her so much.It is very hard for me still and it has been 2 months since she left me and I still have really bad days where I cry my heart out.I keep asking her if she sent Rafferty to me,he is such a sweetie,he helps me on my low days.I know we will heal to a point where we can think of them and not cry.I have had a few weird experiences since she passed,my boyfriend and I both have. I was eating popcorn and watching ER one night and it felt like she jumped on the couch next to me.I just smiled and said hi Maizee.I wasn't even thinking about her at that moment.Maybe if we don't look too hard for a sign,they will let us know then. Sherry
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In a message dated 1/17/06 4:00:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but at least 3 times> in my life I have really wondered if the new cat isn't my old one> come back... Tad~ Funny you should say that. I've talked to Nina about one of the kittens (Timothy) from the feral mom, Charity, that was dumped here this summer. Charity, being feral, has been spayed, vx'd, tested and released. :( Thomas, the grey kitten was adopted a couple of months ago. :) Timothy is STILL with me. I have found him to be the most charming, loveable boy. When I take him to adoption events, he acts disinterested, bored, if you will. I even had a man comment at one event that the reason he acts that way is because he's found his mom - ME!! I must admit, he has completely endeared himself to me. I found myself calling him, "My little man", which was my special name for my Felv boy, Ethan, who I lost a few years ago. Timothy is a "spitting" image of Ethan, solid black, compact body, heavenly amber eyes that GLOW!! His mannerisms are the same as Ethan also. I commented to Nina that at times I swore Timothy was the reincarnation of Ethan. And, Nina didn't scoff, or laugh. In fact, she did say that it was quite possible that it very well may be, especially if Ethan and I had any unfinished business. And, of course, we do. Ethan became sick suddenly, over a weekend. He had NEVER been symptomatic, or sick a day in his short life (18 months). However, when we got to vet Monday, and x-ray revealed a large mass in his chest, basically blocking flow to his heart, I knew I had to let him go. No warning, no time for good-byes. I know my decision was the ONLY one that I had...any other choice would have just prolonged his suffering on earth. So, I let him go. Timothy HAS found his home, and it IS with me. Maybe he IS Ethan, come back to me in a "healthy" body this time, so we can experience all the joys that I did not have the good fortune to share with my Ethan. As time passes, the "hurt" of losing our babies lessens some, but we NEVER forget their presence in our lives. And, now I like to believe, that when you least expect it, they WILL make their presence known, in one way or another. Patti
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In a message dated 1/18/06 12:15:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My Ethan's been gone almost four years now. Forgive me, it's almost three Seems like forever though. Patti
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In a message dated 1/17/06 1:43:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kitties arealways coming in and out of my life, it seems, whetherI want them to or not. lol. WEndy~ I KNOW the feeling! LOL! My Ethan's been gone almost four years now. And, along comes Timothy! ( A healthy look-alike, in TOO many ways, it's spooky! LOL!) Just sharing with you... Patti
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Again, by looking so hard you are closing yourself off. Please. As hard as it is, trust them to come to you when it is time. They love you for all you have done for them. They love you most for loving them, sometimes loving them enough to help them leave this world. When you feel that they are there with you, they are. Trust yourself and trust them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:58 PM Subject: Re: OT: Dreams Wendy I feel the same as you do.I am still waiting for a sign that she forgives me and knows that I love her so much.It is very hard for me still and it has been 2 months since she left me and I still have really bad days where I cry my heart out.I keep asking her if she sent Rafferty to me,he is such a sweetie,he helps me on my low days.I know we will heal to a point where we can think of them and not cry.I have had a few weird experiences since she passed,my boyfriend and I both have. I was eating popcorn and watching ER one night and it felt like she jumped on the couch next to me.I just smiled and said hi Maizee.I wasn't even thinking about her at that moment.Maybe if we don't look too hard for a sign,they will let us know then. Sherrywendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys,I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts ondreaming about kitties you have lost. I know it's OT,but I have a hard enough time keeping up with theposts here, so joining the OT list is not an optionfor me time-wise. Since Cricket has passed, I have continued to look forsigns from him letting me know he's ok. The best Ihave gotten is a dismembered cricket that my other twokitties left by my bed a day or so after he passed,which was weird because I haven't seen any othercrickets anywhere, inside or out this year.A couple of nights ago, I dreamed I was walking aroundeverywhere calling for Cricket. I couldn't find himanywhere and kept finding myself in all thesedifferent places. Rolling hillsides, snow-coveredforests, places I didn't recognize. The dream was soreal. And all I did was call for Cricket the wholetime, like I used to when he would sneak out of thebackyard when I wasn't paying attention so he couldexplore the neighborhood. "Crick, Crickeee," overand over and over. I started panicking in my dream,and of course when I woke up, I got upset because Iknew the reason I couldn't find him in my dream wasthat he was dead. It really disturbed me. Apparently, I still need closure. I still have guiltover Cricket's passing, even though I know the facts. I am disappointed that I haven't seen or heardsomething that lets me know he's ok and that he isn'tmad at me. Do you guys have any idea what that dreammeant, and also, what's a good way for me to getclosure as I think about it a lot?Thanks for any advice or thoughts you have,:)Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcoverPhoto Books. You design it and well bind it!
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Wendy I feel the same as you do.I am still waiting for a sign that she forgives me and knows that I love her so much.It is very hard for me still and it has been 2 months since she left me and I still have really bad days where I cry my heart out.I keep asking her if she sent Rafferty to me,he is such a sweetie,he helps me on my low days.I know we will heal to a point where we can think of them and not cry.I have had a few weird experiences since she passed,my boyfriend and I both have. I was eating popcorn and watching ER one night and it felt like she jumped on the couch next to me.I just smiled and said hi Maizee.I wasn't even thinking about her at that moment.Maybe if we don't look too hard for a sign,they will let us know then. Sherrywendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys,I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts ondreaming about kitties you have lost. I know it's OT,but I have a hard enough time keeping up with theposts here, so joining the OT list is not an optionfor me time-wise. Since Cricket has passed, I have continued to look forsigns from him letting me know he's ok. The best Ihave gotten is a dismembered cricket that my other twokitties left by my bed a day or so after he passed,which was weird because I haven't seen any othercrickets anywhere, inside or out this year.A couple of nights ago, I dreamed I was walking aroundeverywhere calling for Cricket. I couldn't find himanywhere and kept finding myself in all thesedifferent places. Rolling hillsides, snow-coveredforests, places I didn't recognize. The dream was soreal. And all I did was call for Cricket the wholetime, like I used to when he would sneak out of thebackyard when I wasn't paying attention so he couldexplore the neighborhood. "Crick, Crickeee," overand over and over. I started panicking in my dream,and of course when I woke up, I got upset because Iknew the reason I couldn't find him in my dream wasthat he was dead. It really disturbed me. Apparently, I still need closure. I still have guiltover Cricket's passing, even though I know the facts. I am disappointed that I haven't seen or heardsomething that lets me know he's ok and that he isn'tmad at me. Do you guys have any idea what that dreammeant, and also, what's a good way for me to getclosure as I think about it a lot?Thanks for any advice or thoughts you have,:)Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!
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Wendy, As I'm reading your letter exposing all the guilt and regret that you feel...I can just picture your Cricket, with his paws stretched out in front of him in that regal way they have, a smug small smile on his face as if to say, "My human...she always overthinks everything!" Trust that he understands it ALL now. Afterall, he's smarter than we humanshe's a CAT. ;-)wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tamara,I am laughing through my tears right now reading yourpost. You are so right, Cricket never came to me whenI called when he was outside because he knew that mosttimes it was time to go inside. He always wanted tobe outside all the time. I laughed when I read that. His own good time might be a while from now! The story about KC really moved me. And it'swonderful that you are so understanding about KC andher former owner, especially since it probably hurtyou. You are very perceptive too; a lot of peoplewould have missed the signs in that dream, includingme. I know how you feel though. I do feel terriblyguilty. I told him that it would be ok before he gotthe gas and it wasn't. Nevermind that he was very badoff and was going to be pts anyway that evening had Inot decided to try to save him one last time. Nevermind that I did everything I possibly could havefor him the whole time he was in my care. Andnevermind that I loved him dearly. I didn't get to"talk" to him before he left, we were in such a hurry(on the vets schedule) after I got off work. I soregret not taking five extra minutes to just love onhim and realize that this might be the last time we'dspeak. I just never allowed myself to think that andI'm so sorry now I didn't. I didn't really get to saygood-bye.Thank you for sharing with me Tamara. I feel better. Several people have given me a lot to think about, andmaybe this guilt thing will eventually subside andallow me to communicate with Cricket again.God bless you too,:)Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP.
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Or leave your name with local vets. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Tad Burnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: Re: OT: Dreams Hi Wendy I want to tell you what works for me... It may not work for you...That will have to be your call... Get another FeLV+ kitty !!! They say getting another pet to replace a lost one doesn't work and probably won't if you are planning on it but at least 3 times in my life I have really wondered if the new cat isn't my old one come back... Anyway all the FeLV+ cats that I have all seem to have something in common...They all are the greatest cats...Maybe they realize that I am saving their lives by giving them a home...If you enter into it knowing it mat be only for a short time and knowing that you gave them love at the end when often they have been lost and living a rough life... Most people don't realize how many are PTS without a word being said just because they test pos...It makes me cry to think how close the last cat who is such a wonderful guy, came to PTS...Pam at the shelter had tried for some time to save him and on his last day somebody told her to try this list and then that day I was reading way behind and late at night...But it was one of those times that it was meant to be You can leave your name at a local shelters or rescue groups or rescue lists on the internet...There are way too many to pick from... Tad wendy wrote: Hi guys, I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts on dreaming about kitties you have lost. I know it's OT, but I have a hard enough time keeping up with the posts here, so joining the OT list is not an option for me time-wise. Since Cricket has passed, I have continued to look for signs from him letting me know he's ok. The best I have gotten is a dismembered cricket that my other two kitties left by my bed a day or so after he passed, which was weird because I haven't seen any other crickets anywhere, inside or out this year. A couple of nights ago, I dreamed I was walking around everywhere calling for Cricket. I couldn't find him anywhere and kept finding myself in all these different places. Rolling hillsides, snow-covered forests, places I didn't recognize. The dream was so real. And all I did was call for Cricket the whole time, like I used to when he would sneak out of the backyard when I wasn't paying attention so he could explore the neighborhood. "Crick, Crickeee," over and over and over. I started panicking in my dream, and of course when I woke up, I got upset because I knew the reason I couldn't find him in my dream was that he was dead. It really disturbed me. Apparently, I still need closure. I still have guilt over Cricket's passing, even though I know the facts. I am disappointed that I haven't seen or heard something that lets me know he's ok and that he isn't mad at me. Do you guys have any idea what that dream meant, and also, what's a good way for me to get closure as I think about it a lot? Thanks for any advice or thoughts you have, :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Tamara, I am laughing through my tears right now reading your post. You are so right, Cricket never came to me when I called when he was outside because he knew that most times it was time to go inside. He always wanted to be outside all the time. I laughed when I read that. His own good time might be a while from now! The story about KC really moved me. And it's wonderful that you are so understanding about KC and her former owner, especially since it probably hurt you. You are very perceptive too; a lot of people would have missed the signs in that dream, including me. I know how you feel though. I do feel terribly guilty. I told him that it would be ok before he got the gas and it wasn't. Nevermind that he was very bad off and was going to be pts anyway that evening had I not decided to try to save him one last time. Nevermind that I did everything I possibly could have for him the whole time he was in my care. And nevermind that I loved him dearly. I didn't get to "talk" to him before he left, we were in such a hurry (on the vets schedule) after I got off work. I so regret not taking five extra minutes to just love on him and realize that this might be the last time we'd speak. I just never allowed myself to think that and I'm so sorry now I didn't. I didn't really get to say good-bye. Thank you for sharing with me Tamara. I feel better. Several people have given me a lot to think about, and maybe this guilt thing will eventually subside and allow me to communicate with Cricket again. God bless you too, :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Dreams - using ACs
t; truth > >to that. > > > >:) > >Wendy > > > >--- Kat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Dear Wendy, > >> > >>Have you considered talking with an animal > >>communicator? > >> > >>You WILL eventually "talk" with Cricket yourself, > >>but for > >>now, you are still too emotionally upset/still > >>blaming > >>yourself/feeling guilty/etc, and that can > interfere > >>with > >>your own communication. > >> > >>(Sort of like when couples try SO hard to have a > >>baby but > >>they can't - and when they finally decide to adopt > - > >>and > >>there by relax about the whole thing - they get > >>pregnant.) > >> > >>Getting some inital closure with an animal > >>communicator may > >>just be the ticket for you. > >> > >>Kat (Mew Jersey) > >>On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, wendy wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:26:08 -0800 (PST) > >>>From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>Subject: OT: Dreams > >>> > >>>Hi guys, > >>> > >>>I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts on > >>>dreaming about kitties you have lost. I know > it's > >>> > >>> > >>OT, > >> > >> > >>>but I have a hard enough time keeping up with the > >>>posts here, so joining the OT list is not an > >>> > >>> > >>option > >> > >> > >>>for me time-wise. > >>> > >>>Since Cricket has passed, I have continued to > look > >>> > >>> > >>for > >> > >> > >>>signs from him letting me know he's ok. The best > >>> > >>> > >>I > >> > >> > >>>have gotten is a dismembered cricket that my > other > >>> > >>> > >>two > >> > >> > >>>kitties left by my bed a day or so after he > >>> > === message truncated === __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Wendy, I agree that I think you need to relax a bit before you will be able to visit with Cricket. Often times, the animal may need to attend to something or someone else before being able to visit with you again. I had a very old poodle, KC, that I collected from the city streets, that had cancer -had her operated on once but it came back. The day I took her back to the vet for the results, I told her before I left the house that I promised to bring her home, (I don't believe she was ready to "go" yet). The vet said cancer had come back, and I had allowed my mother and the vet to talk me into putting her down right then and there...even though she was having a good day. I broke my word to her, betrayed her and felt horribly guilty (even to this day). I was sure she was mad at me, felt as I did that I had betrayed her. When I tried to visit with her in my dreams...much like you, I was walking the streets (seemingly very real) of a city not the one I found her in , but a city all the samecleaner tho somehow, but I couldn't find her. Finally after months of walking that same street, I saw her...but her coat was dancing with a million small motes of colored light, and she was trotting parallel with mebut it was as if she didnt' see me, she was on a mission. And she faded away. About two years later, I saw her briefly in a dream sitting on an older lady's lap...happy. See, KC never belonged to me. I picked her up, nearly starved, off the street, and although she was a wonderful dog for the two years I had her...whenever she woke up, she looked so happy, until she looked around and saw us. I know she loved me, and she had moments of happiness, and was grateful, but there was someone out there that she had been seperated from that she loved first, someone she had wanted to find before she could bother herself with me. Your Cricket is a cat afterallhe will come to you in his own good time. :-) In the meantime, accept what his housemates are trying to tell you...he is ok, he still exists...and they will bring him back to you when the time is right. Next time you dream you are walking in those fields calling his name. Stop walking. Sit down. and Give a cat a chance to be a cattell him you are going to wait right there for him to come to you. And busy yourself in memories (good ones) of him...(He isn't your pet anymore, he's his own little self, as he always was..but more so now...besidesI bet he didn't always come when you called him in lifewhy expect him to in the next...he IS a CAT afterall! ;-) He'll come to you when HE'S ready. Important: Try in your dream...not to "remember that he's dead". HE isn't dead...his body is. That thought seems to be blocking you from "seeing" him. "He's dead", so of course you won't find him, "he's dead" so of course he won't come. His body is dead...that's all...only his body. Everything that WAS Cricket still exists, its just different is all. (A last explanation could be simply this: Cricket had nothing left to fulfill...so he didn't hang around, you and his housemates gave him everything he needed to move on from the first. If that's the case ...be happy about that - for him- and let him go. The love always remains, but sometimes, the spirits have to move on ahead.) God Bless & be at Peace. T > On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, wendy wrote:> > > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:26:08 -0800 (PST)> > From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: OT: Dreams> >> > Hi guys,> >> > I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts on> > dreaming about kitties you have lost. I know it's> OT,> > but I have a hard enough time keeping up with the> > posts here, so joining the OT list is not an> option> > for me time-wise.> >> > Since Cricket has passed, I have continued to look> for> > signs from him letting me know he's ok. The best> I> > have gotten is a dismembered cricket that my other> two> > kitties left by my bed a day or so after he> passed,> > which was weird because I haven't seen any other> > crickets anywhere, inside or out this year.> >> > A couple of nights ago, I dreamed I was walking> around> > everywhere calling for Cricket. I couldn't find> him> > anywhere and kept finding myself in all these> > different places. Rolling hillsides, snow-covered> > forests, places I didn't recognize. The dream was> so> > real. And all I did was call for Cricket the> whole> > time, like I used to when he would sneak out of> the> > backyard when I wasn't payi
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Hey Tad, Thanks for the advice. Maybe in the future that will be an option. I know I am not ready right now to take in another kitty. We have three inside (my two original ones + one of my dad's) and 7 outside/garage. My husband would have a fit if I brought another one home right now. Plus, I am not sure it would be fair to new kitty if I don't have the financial means to care for their FeLV symptoms, you know? But Cricket was my only FeLV and he was so dear to me, so you are right about them being special kitties. I knew there was always something different about him even from when he was little. I will keep this in mind for the future. Kitties are always coming in and out of my life, it seems, whether I want them to or not. lol. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. :) Wendy --- Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Wendy > I want to tell you what works for me... > It may not work for you...That will have to be your > call... > Get another FeLV+ kitty !!! > They say getting another pet to replace a lost one > doesn't work > and probably won't if you are planning on it but at > least 3 times > in my life I have really wondered if the new cat > isn't my old one > come back... > Anyway all the FeLV+ cats that I have all seem to > have something > in common...They all are the greatest cats...Maybe > they realize that > I am saving their lives by giving them a home...If > you enter into it > knowing it mat be only for a short time and knowing > that you gave > them love at the end when often they have been lost > and living a > rough life... >Most people don't realize how many are PTS > without a word being > said just because they test pos...It makes me cry to > think how close > the last cat who is such a wonderful guy, came to > PTS...Pam at the > shelter had tried for some time to save him and on > his last day > somebody told her to try this list and then that day > I was reading > way behind and late at night...But it was one of > those times that it > was meant to be >You can leave your name at a local shelters or > rescue groups > or rescue lists on the internet...There are way too > many to pick from... > > Tad > > > wendy wrote: > > >Hi guys, > > > >I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts on > >dreaming about kitties you have lost. I know it's > OT, > >but I have a hard enough time keeping up with the > >posts here, so joining the OT list is not an option > >for me time-wise. > > > >Since Cricket has passed, I have continued to look > for > >signs from him letting me know he's ok. The best I > >have gotten is a dismembered cricket that my other > two > >kitties left by my bed a day or so after he passed, > >which was weird because I haven't seen any other > >crickets anywhere, inside or out this year. > > > >A couple of nights ago, I dreamed I was walking > around > >everywhere calling for Cricket. I couldn't find > him > >anywhere and kept finding myself in all these > >different places. Rolling hillsides, snow-covered > >forests, places I didn't recognize. The dream was > so > >real. And all I did was call for Cricket the whole > >time, like I used to when he would sneak out of the > >backyard when I wasn't paying attention so he could > >explore the neighborhood. "Crick, Crickeee," > over > >and over and over. I started panicking in my > dream, > >and of course when I woke up, I got upset because I > >knew the reason I couldn't find him in my dream was > >that he was dead. It really disturbed me. > > > >Apparently, I still need closure. I still have > guilt > >over Cricket's passing, even though I know the > facts. > >I am disappointed that I haven't seen or heard > >something that lets me know he's ok and that he > isn't > >mad at me. Do you guys have any idea what that > dream > >meant, and also, what's a good way for me to get > >closure as I think about it a lot? > > > >Thanks for any advice or thoughts you have, > >:) > >Wendy > > > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Dreams - using ACs
Hi Wendy, I have a couple of suggestions for when/if you speak with an AC. Not every AC can communicate with those that have crossed over. Make sure whoever you find is comfortable with that. Only give them the essentials. Don't feed them any information that they could expand on. It's actually better for them too. I can't imagine how they keep the voices of those they are communicating with separate from the their own inner thoughts as it is! I think that's why it's so difficult for people who do AC to connect with their own animals, or people psychics for that matter. First they would naturally be more emotional about their own loved ones, and second they know so much about them, it's hard to validate the information as coming from a different source. If while you're talking to them, nothing is coming through that convinces you they are actually communicating with Cricket, ask them to tell you something specific that only you and Cricket would know. They won't be insulted if you ask for specific validation, not if they're legit. Let me tell you a little story about what happened with a recent reading for my dog Vladimir... A couple of weeks ago, I was in another room when I heard my dog Vladimir scream out in pain. I went rushing to him and he was in obvious distress. Every time he turned his head, even slightly, he'd scream again. Nothing seemed to be broken, and he didn't scream when I touched him, but he was in trouble. I knew if I rushed him to the ER, they would poke, prod, manipulate his tender neck, take xrays and probably send me home with a huge bill telling me to watch him closely. There's nothing that anyone can do for soft tissue damage and I didn't want to put Vlad through a painful and stressful exam, if I could help it. I called the AC I use and happily she had time to do a reading. I didn't tell her anything except that Vladimir was in pain. No specifics about what happened, no specifics about what I thought might be going on. I did that on purpose. I knew that I wouldn't feel comfortable accepting her assessment of the situation if I wasn't sure she was actually connecting with him. As far as she was concerned the "pain" could have been a belly ache, or a leg, or whatever. I was delighted when she honed right in on his neck! She told me that she didn't see/feel any bone damage, maybe a small chip. She thought it was a stretched, or torn ligament, or muscle. She even told me how she thought the accident happened. By the end of the conversation, she was convinced that it would get better on its own. I started Vlad on a homeopathic called Traumed, (I had already given him 1/2 of an Ascriptin for pain), kept him quiet and away from the rest of the dogs for the next couple of days and except for squeals of pain when he turned his head the wrong way he seemed to be getting better. Within 10 days he was back to his normal, active self. I'm so grateful to have spared the two of us that trip to the vet! I have more stories of personal experience that have proved the benefits of AC. I am more than convinced that this is for real. The main thing is to find someone that you can trust to be accurate and to not give away information that will cause you to question the validation of the answers. Let us know your experience if you decide to try an AC, Nina wendy wrote: Hey Kat, I really haven't considered using an AC, partly because of financial reasons, partly because if I didn't know the person, I would be extremely skeptical about their truthfulness. The baby example was a great explanation of what you were trying to say about my own guilt getting in the way of communicating or being open to a sign. There's probably a lot of truth to that. :) Wendy --- Kat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Wendy, Have you considered talking with an animal communicator? You WILL eventually "talk" with Cricket yourself, but for now, you are still too emotionally upset/still blaming yourself/feeling guilty/etc, and that can interfere with your own communication. (Sort of like when couples try SO hard to have a baby but they can't - and when they finally decide to adopt - and there by relax about the whole thing - they get pregnant.) Getting some inital closure with an animal communicator may just be the ticket for you. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, wendy wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:26:08 -0800 (PST) From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Dreams Hi guys, I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts on dreaming about kitties you have lost. I know it's OT, but I have a hard enough time keeping up with the posts here, so joining the OT list is not an option
Re: OT: Dreams
Hi Wendy I want to tell you what works for me... It may not work for you...That will have to be your call... Get another FeLV+ kitty !!! They say getting another pet to replace a lost one doesn't work and probably won't if you are planning on it but at least 3 times in my life I have really wondered if the new cat isn't my old one come back... Anyway all the FeLV+ cats that I have all seem to have something in common...They all are the greatest cats...Maybe they realize that I am saving their lives by giving them a home...If you enter into it knowing it mat be only for a short time and knowing that you gave them love at the end when often they have been lost and living a rough life... Most people don't realize how many are PTS without a word being said just because they test pos...It makes me cry to think how close the last cat who is such a wonderful guy, came to PTS...Pam at the shelter had tried for some time to save him and on his last day somebody told her to try this list and then that day I was reading way behind and late at night...But it was one of those times that it was meant to be You can leave your name at a local shelters or rescue groups or rescue lists on the internet...There are way too many to pick from... Tad wendy wrote: Hi guys, I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts on dreaming about kitties you have lost. I know it's OT, but I have a hard enough time keeping up with the posts here, so joining the OT list is not an option for me time-wise. Since Cricket has passed, I have continued to look for signs from him letting me know he's ok. The best I have gotten is a dismembered cricket that my other two kitties left by my bed a day or so after he passed, which was weird because I haven't seen any other crickets anywhere, inside or out this year. A couple of nights ago, I dreamed I was walking around everywhere calling for Cricket. I couldn't find him anywhere and kept finding myself in all these different places. Rolling hillsides, snow-covered forests, places I didn't recognize. The dream was so real. And all I did was call for Cricket the whole time, like I used to when he would sneak out of the backyard when I wasn't paying attention so he could explore the neighborhood. "Crick, Crickeee," over and over and over. I started panicking in my dream, and of course when I woke up, I got upset because I knew the reason I couldn't find him in my dream was that he was dead. It really disturbed me. Apparently, I still need closure. I still have guilt over Cricket's passing, even though I know the facts. I am disappointed that I haven't seen or heard something that lets me know he's ok and that he isn't mad at me. Do you guys have any idea what that dream meant, and also, what's a good way for me to get closure as I think about it a lot? Thanks for any advice or thoughts you have, :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Dreams
Hey Kat, I really haven't considered using an AC, partly because of financial reasons, partly because if I didn't know the person, I would be extremely skeptical about their truthfulness. The baby example was a great explanation of what you were trying to say about my own guilt getting in the way of communicating or being open to a sign. There's probably a lot of truth to that. :) Wendy --- Kat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Wendy, > > Have you considered talking with an animal > communicator? > > You WILL eventually "talk" with Cricket yourself, > but for > now, you are still too emotionally upset/still > blaming > yourself/feeling guilty/etc, and that can interfere > with > your own communication. > > (Sort of like when couples try SO hard to have a > baby but > they can't - and when they finally decide to adopt - > and > there by relax about the whole thing - they get > pregnant.) > > Getting some inital closure with an animal > communicator may > just be the ticket for you. > > Kat (Mew Jersey) > On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, wendy wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:26:08 -0800 (PST) > > From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: OT: Dreams > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts on > > dreaming about kitties you have lost. I know it's > OT, > > but I have a hard enough time keeping up with the > > posts here, so joining the OT list is not an > option > > for me time-wise. > > > > Since Cricket has passed, I have continued to look > for > > signs from him letting me know he's ok. The best > I > > have gotten is a dismembered cricket that my other > two > > kitties left by my bed a day or so after he > passed, > > which was weird because I haven't seen any other > > crickets anywhere, inside or out this year. > > > > A couple of nights ago, I dreamed I was walking > around > > everywhere calling for Cricket. I couldn't find > him > > anywhere and kept finding myself in all these > > different places. Rolling hillsides, snow-covered > > forests, places I didn't recognize. The dream was > so > > real. And all I did was call for Cricket the > whole > > time, like I used to when he would sneak out of > the > > backyard when I wasn't paying attention so he > could > > explore the neighborhood. "Crick, Crickeee," > over > > and over and over. I started panicking in my > dream, > > and of course when I woke up, I got upset because > I > > knew the reason I couldn't find him in my dream > was > > that he was dead. It really disturbed me. > > > > Apparently, I still need closure. I still have > guilt > > over Cricket's passing, even though I know the > facts. > > I am disappointed that I haven't seen or heard > > something that lets me know he's ok and that he > isn't > > mad at me. Do you guys have any idea what that > dream > > meant, and also, what's a good way for me to get > > closure as I think about it a lot? > > > > Thanks for any advice or thoughts you have, > > :) > > Wendy > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Well, that's what I thought, especially since I have seen NO other Cricket's anywhere, which is odd for that time of year. The darn thing was right by my bed. I would have taken it as a sign, except the thing was missing a leg or so, so I thought surely this isn't a sign. If it was, it's a bit morbid. But Cricket was quirky; maybe that's his personality coming through. If I could just have a nice dream where I get to pet him and love on him, I would be satisfied. --- Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I would say the crickets are a sure sign that he > is letting you know > he is OK. The other cats can sense him where as you > can't and are > trying to let you know he is with you still, what > better way to let you > know!! You certainly can't deny a cricket for > Cricket:) > > -- > Belinda > Happiness is being owned by cats ... > > Be-Mi-Kitties ... > http://www.bemikitties.com > > Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens > http://adopt.bemikitties.com > > FeLV Candle Light Service > http://www.bemikitties.com/cls > > HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) > http://HostDesign4U.com > > --- > > BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) > http://bmk.bemikitties.com > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I would say the crickets are a sure sign that he is letting you know he is OK. The other cats can sense him where as you can't and are trying to let you know he is with you still, what better way to let you know!! You certainly can't deny a cricket for Cricket:) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT: Dreams
Dear Wendy, Have you considered talking with an animal communicator? You WILL eventually "talk" with Cricket yourself, but for now, you are still too emotionally upset/still blaming yourself/feeling guilty/etc, and that can interfere with your own communication. (Sort of like when couples try SO hard to have a baby but they can't - and when they finally decide to adopt - and there by relax about the whole thing - they get pregnant.) Getting some inital closure with an animal communicator may just be the ticket for you. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, wendy wrote: > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:26:08 -0800 (PST) > From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: OT: Dreams > > Hi guys, > > I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts on > dreaming about kitties you have lost. I know it's OT, > but I have a hard enough time keeping up with the > posts here, so joining the OT list is not an option > for me time-wise. > > Since Cricket has passed, I have continued to look for > signs from him letting me know he's ok. The best I > have gotten is a dismembered cricket that my other two > kitties left by my bed a day or so after he passed, > which was weird because I haven't seen any other > crickets anywhere, inside or out this year. > > A couple of nights ago, I dreamed I was walking around > everywhere calling for Cricket. I couldn't find him > anywhere and kept finding myself in all these > different places. Rolling hillsides, snow-covered > forests, places I didn't recognize. The dream was so > real. And all I did was call for Cricket the whole > time, like I used to when he would sneak out of the > backyard when I wasn't paying attention so he could > explore the neighborhood. "Crick, Crickeee," over > and over and over. I started panicking in my dream, > and of course when I woke up, I got upset because I > knew the reason I couldn't find him in my dream was > that he was dead. It really disturbed me. > > Apparently, I still need closure. I still have guilt > over Cricket's passing, even though I know the facts. > I am disappointed that I haven't seen or heard > something that lets me know he's ok and that he isn't > mad at me. Do you guys have any idea what that dream > meant, and also, what's a good way for me to get > closure as I think about it a lot? > > Thanks for any advice or thoughts you have, > :) > Wendy > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >
OT: Dreams
Hi guys, I wanted to ask everyone's opinions/thoughts on dreaming about kitties you have lost. I know it's OT, but I have a hard enough time keeping up with the posts here, so joining the OT list is not an option for me time-wise. Since Cricket has passed, I have continued to look for signs from him letting me know he's ok. The best I have gotten is a dismembered cricket that my other two kitties left by my bed a day or so after he passed, which was weird because I haven't seen any other crickets anywhere, inside or out this year. A couple of nights ago, I dreamed I was walking around everywhere calling for Cricket. I couldn't find him anywhere and kept finding myself in all these different places. Rolling hillsides, snow-covered forests, places I didn't recognize. The dream was so real. And all I did was call for Cricket the whole time, like I used to when he would sneak out of the backyard when I wasn't paying attention so he could explore the neighborhood. "Crick, Crickeee," over and over and over. I started panicking in my dream, and of course when I woke up, I got upset because I knew the reason I couldn't find him in my dream was that he was dead. It really disturbed me. Apparently, I still need closure. I still have guilt over Cricket's passing, even though I know the facts. I am disappointed that I haven't seen or heard something that lets me know he's ok and that he isn't mad at me. Do you guys have any idea what that dream meant, and also, what's a good way for me to get closure as I think about it a lot? Thanks for any advice or thoughts you have, :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
