Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Tomi is in my prayers. I hope by some miracle he'll pull through. Gina C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked. He's been lethargic again lately. The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week and a half. I just don't understand it. After his transfusion, his blood count went up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19. Now in the last few weeks, its gone down to 17, and now 11. I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day. I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood. The vet says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think another transfusion would be worth it. I don't know what the heck else to do. Maybe I should stop his interferon while giving him the prednisone. This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :( It's such a feeling of desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything about it. Cassandra Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is desperation. It's the way aids was before they invented all those drugs for it. I am having the same problem with one of my darling triplets I raised without a mommy from two days old. Not only is he FelV pos but also a diag of lymphoma. It has just been a comedy of errors, TIME, and to get to the right (I hope) oncologist. This is the horrible part: he got it from my mother's two feral cats because apparently she never bothered to tame them, which could have been done at the time--they were babies--or take them to the vet. I'm an only child and divorced and she won't leave her home and now she can't see so I moved it and this is what has happened. I feel the triplets and my other two cats have so nightmarishly betrayed. The vet screwed up, too, because I always vaccinate my cats for FelV on general principles--once you'ce seen a beloved FelV pos cat pass away (at ten--but STILL. . . .) you never, ever want to see that again. Cassandra, go to the felinelymphomacaregivers.org site. On Apr 13, 2007, at 6:08 PM, C & J wrote: I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked. He's been lethargic again lately. The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week and a half. I just don't understand it. After his transfusion, his blood count went up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19. Now in the last few weeks, its gone down to 17, and now 11. I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day. I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood. The vet says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think another transfusion would be worth it. I don't know what the heck else to do. Maybe I should stop his interferon while giving him the prednisone. This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone : ( It's such a feeling of desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything about it. Cassandra
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Hi Gloria, I don't know that my experience will help, but don't give up. My Cats was dx as felv positive after he was found to be anemic and after I lost another kitty also anemic and jaundiced. It was then that Junior was tested. The other cat died before he could be tested. Junior initially was treated for hemobart w/ Baytril. I know not the drug of choice his anemia did clear up. His last pvc was 30 which I understand is good for a cat with Felv . He has had many setbacks A URI, and uveitis(bad eye infection). A few months ago, I would not have though I would have Junior around now. Not only is he here he is feeling pretty good. I tried to read over what you have done for Tomi. Initially Junior got Immunoregulin IV injections protocol I. He got Clindamyacin for the URI last fall. He got several eye medications for the uveitis. The infection did clear up, he now has very little site in his good(not good) eye. He was Blind in the other eye from an auto accident. Junior has now lived one year from being hit by a car. He was FeLV neg at that time and has been an inside cat since then. I do have other cats, in/out. Most recently due to swollen lymph nodes and just not seeming like he felt well, he was put on 1 month of Baytril. His lymph nodes have gone down. He does have glaucoma in one eye and hematomas in both ears from some kind of inflammation. The vet put him on Metacam just this past week for pain and inflammation. I have been very careful with this medication per folks on the group and research of my own. I am guessing he was in pain because he is like a new cat now. Except for the funny looking ears and the blindness. He is like his old self. I am so happy. My Point is don't let this get you down. You may want to join the feline anemia group on yahoo to learn more about epogen. Although I am sure there are people on this group who have information about it's use. I say anything is worth a try. Also I think the Immunoregulin helped with the anemia. Love Sally, Junior, ittle bitty, Speedy, Spike, Grey and White. Silver. Little Black, Lily and Daisy On 4/13/07, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm so sorry to hear about Torri, I know how hard it is, as we all do. Just thought I'd put out my 2c. For low dose oral interferon, what I've read is that it's unlikely that the kitty will develop a "tolerance" to it, unlikely that it will lose effect. One theory (note just a theory) is that the FELV kitty isn't producing his own interferon, and this is merely a supplement for what's not there. However, once they're ill, meaning once the virus has mutated into a new form of virus, what I've read is that it's not going to reverse the illness and kill / or cut back on the virus. Kitty will progress thru the illness unless there's something else (unknown) that can stop the virus. I would personally guess the interferon *may* help to maintain whatever health kitty has - and this is not to be taken lightly. But not reverse the illness. But... taking him off interferon might escalate illness. I've had two cats die within a couple of weeks after stopping daily low-dose oral interferon. Think I was giving .5cc daily. I've also read that oral low-dose interferon is an immune system "modulator", note a booster necessarily. Immunoregulin is an immune system booster, and I don't know much about it other than it can help in other situations. My take, IMHO, Blessings, Gloria At 06:37 PM 4/13/2007, C & J wrote: >He's been on the interferon for about 2.5 weeks at 1cc per day. It >doesn't look like its ever helped him though, since his PCV was at >19 before I started using it, and has been going down ever since. > >Cassandra >- Original Message - >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Hideyo Yamamoto >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 6:11 PM >Subject: RE: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( > >How long are you giving him interferon? If it's been for a few >weeks, is it possible that it is losing effect from antibody? > > >-- >From: ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C & J >Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:08 PM >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( > >I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked. He's been >lethargic again lately. The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the >last week and a half. > >I just don't understand it. After his transfusion, his blood count >went up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19. Now in the last few >weeks, its gone down to 17, and now 11. > >I've been giving him prednisone again for the last we
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Those links are an interesting read, but from what I understood, Feline Babesiosis and Cytauxzoonosis are extremely rare in North America. It looks like those mainly occur in South America. For the Ehrlichia, it looks like it also uses Doxycycline as a treatment, so even if Tomi had it, he should be treated for it. It looks like bone marrow suppression is the main cause of anemia in FeLV cases, but they don't seem to offer any suggestion on dealing with that :(. There is one thing I am wondering about with Tomi, and I can't figure out the cause. For the last week or so, something seems to be irritating him. He will sometimes suddenly run a few steps and lick himself vigorously in several different spots. He also seems to be scratching his head/neck more often than normal. I was wondering if he might have fleas, but I can't see anything in his fur. I see no flea droppings etc. About all i've found is a couple of very small scabs, that could easily have been cause by his scratching. I doubt he has ear mites either, since his ears are very clean looking. Its not likely this has anything to do with his anemia, but its just something I find a bit odd. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Belinda To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( I have known of cat with hemo that had to be on the doxy for longer than 6 weeks, only my opinion but I would put him back on it. Has he been checked for Ehrlichia? Please make sure you vet is aware of these possibilities, talked about below. Here are some links to some of the causes of feline anemia: http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=408425 http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002&PID=2590 Some other causes: Feline Haemobartonellosis is the most frequent cause of anemia in cats either as a primary or secondary opportunistic disease. (A cat with another disease such as feline leukemia will be more susceptible.) The prevalence of the disease is higher in male and outdoor roaming cats. It can be transmitted by ticks and also can be transmitted from an infected queen to her kittens. Symptoms can include sluggishness, depression and a lack of appetite that can become severe. Feline Babesiosis is a disease caused by a strain of a Babesia protozoan microorganism. The tick "Rhipicephalus sanguineos" is the culprit for this one. Signs to look for include fever, anemia and jaundice. Feline Cytauxzoonosis is a disease in domestic cats that causes severe anemia and can be fatal. It is transmitted by ticks and mainly by the "Dermacentor variabilis". Cats with access to the outdoors are at a higher risk of this disease and, if infected, can exhibit fever, loss of appetite and depression. If caught quickly, these diseases can all be treated, so keep a keen eye on your pet and talk to your vet about any sudden behavioral changes. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/760 - Release Date: 4/13/2007 8:04 PM
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
I have known of cat with hemo that had to be on the doxy for *longer than 6 weeks*, only my opinion but I would put him back on it. Has he been checked for Ehrlichia? Please make sure you vet is aware of these possibilities, talked about below. Here are some links to some of the causes of feline anemia: http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=408425 http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002&PID=2590 Some other causes: *Feline Haemobartonellosis* is the most frequent cause of anemia in cats either as a primary or secondary opportunistic disease. (A cat with another disease such as feline leukemia will be more susceptible.) The prevalence of the disease is higher in male and outdoor roaming cats. It can be transmitted by ticks and also can be transmitted from an infected queen to her kittens. Symptoms can include sluggishness, depression and a lack of appetite that can become severe. *Feline Babesiosis* is a disease caused by a strain of a Babesia protozoan microorganism. The tick "Rhipicephalus sanguineos" is the culprit for this one. Signs to look for include fever, anemia and jaundice. *Feline Cytauxzoonosis* is a disease in domestic cats that causes severe anemia and can be fatal. It is transmitted by ticks and mainly by the "Dermacentor variabilis". Cats with access to the outdoors are at a higher risk of this disease and, if infected, can exhibit fever, loss of appetite and depression. If caught quickly, these diseases can all be treated, so keep a keen eye on your pet and talk to your vet about any sudden behavioral changes. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
I've done this as have a lot of people on the list. Try very hard to enjoy the
days you have with Tomi and not to let the thought of losing him overshadow the
deep love you share. He has things left to teach you and to share with you.
If your grief overshadows your time together you will loose this and so will
he. The Royal Princess Kitty Katt and Mai Mai taught me this in long, drawn
out illnesses that totally broke my heart. I look back and realize grieving
took away a lot of pleasure. None of us know when we are going to leave this
world. Talk to Tomi and find out what his wishes areit will make you
feel lots better.
Blessings to you both.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion
and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their
fellow man.
St. Francis
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From: Sherry DeHaan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Cassandra so sorry about sweet Tomi.Hugs to you.
Sherry
C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I got an extra week of the doxy, so basically I just quit giving it to him
a
couple of days ago. He was on it for nearly 5 weeks, which should be good
enough (I believe the vet said the hemobart was gone as well, though I
wasn't really listening to that part after she told me the PCV was 11).
Thank you for the kind thoughts everyone, they are really helpful to me
right now. I've just never experienced anything quite so agonizing as
having a loved one slowly slipping away from me day by day.
Cassandra
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Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
> Truthfully, I was wondering the same thing that
> Belinda is saying...when you took Tomi off the doxy,
> is that when his PCV fell again?
>
> :)
> Wendy
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Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Cassandra so sorry about sweet Tomi.Hugs to you. Sherry C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I got an extra week of the doxy, so basically I just quit giving it to him a couple of days ago. He was on it for nearly 5 weeks, which should be good enough (I believe the vet said the hemobart was gone as well, though I wasn't really listening to that part after she told me the PCV was 11). Thank you for the kind thoughts everyone, they are really helpful to me right now. I've just never experienced anything quite so agonizing as having a loved one slowly slipping away from me day by day. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "wendy" To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( > Truthfully, I was wondering the same thing that > Belinda is saying...when you took Tomi off the doxy, > is that when his PCV fell again? > > :) > Wendy > > --- Belinda wrote: > >> Put him back on the doxy you have nothing to lose >> and everything to gain. >> >> -- >> >> Belinda >> happiness is being owned by cats ... >> >> Be-Mi-Kitties >> http://bemikitties.com >> >> Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens >> http://adopt.bemikitties.com >> >> FeLV Candlelight Service >> http://bemikitties.com/cls >> >> HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] >> http://HostDesign4U.com >> >> >> >> BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] >> http://bmk.bemikitties.com >> >> >> > > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can > change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" > > ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 > 7:58 PM > > - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
I got an extra week of the doxy, so basically I just quit giving it to him a couple of days ago. He was on it for nearly 5 weeks, which should be good enough (I believe the vet said the hemobart was gone as well, though I wasn't really listening to that part after she told me the PCV was 11). Thank you for the kind thoughts everyone, they are really helpful to me right now. I've just never experienced anything quite so agonizing as having a loved one slowly slipping away from me day by day. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( Truthfully, I was wondering the same thing that Belinda is saying...when you took Tomi off the doxy, is that when his PCV fell again? :) Wendy --- Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Put him back on the doxy you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Truthfully, I was wondering the same thing that Belinda is saying...when you took Tomi off the doxy, is that when his PCV fell again? :) Wendy --- Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Put him back on the doxy you have nothing to lose > and everything to gain. > > -- > > Belinda > happiness is being owned by cats ... > > Be-Mi-Kitties > http://bemikitties.com > > Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens > http://adopt.bemikitties.com > > FeLV Candlelight Service > http://bemikitties.com/cls > > HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] > http://HostDesign4U.com > > > > BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] > http://bmk.bemikitties.com > > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Hey Cassandra, I'm so sorry that you're losing hope for Tomi. I hate that feeling of helplessness. If sheer will could be turned into truth, we'd all still have our furbabies with us. I'm sorry that you two are going through this. I don't have any advice for you. Anemia is a heartless condition that leaves so many heartbroken. If you need anything, just ask. Please keep us posted on Tomi. Prayers going out for peace for you and Tomi. :) Wendy --- C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV > rechecked. He's been lethargic again lately. The > PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week and > a half. > > I just don't understand it. After his transfusion, > his blood count went up on its own from 13, to 17, > then 19. Now in the last few weeks, its gone down > to 17, and now 11. > > I've been giving him prednisone again for the last > week and a half, and now all the vet could suggest > was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day. > > I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem > with his blood. The vet says that its likely his > bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think > another transfusion would be worth it. > > I don't know what the heck else to do. Maybe I > should stop his interferon while giving him the > prednisone. > > This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope > that he might actually pull through this, now my > hope is pretty much gone :( It's such a feeling of > desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not > being able to do anything about it. > > Cassandra "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Oh Cassandra! Do I ever know what you're going through! I just went through the same thing with Slinky - transfusion, PCV levels going down, nothing helping, etc.! And it's AWFUL! (Cassandra) I never tried Interferon with Slink, but it sounds like it's not hurting, so I probably would continue it. I'm not sure what else you could try. There is Immuno Regulin, but I tried giving it to Slink when his PCV was at 9 and it didn't help. You could try it though. Hugs, prayers, and GLOW to you and Tomi in this tough time!!! We're here for you! Hang in there. MJ, Angel Slinky, and new baby (as yet un-named). =^..^= C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked. He's been lethargic again lately. The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week and a half. I just don't understand it. After his transfusion, his blood count went up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19. Now in the last few weeks, its gone down to 17, and now 11. I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day. I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood. The vet says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think another transfusion would be worth it. I don't know what the heck else to do. Maybe I should stop his interferon while giving him the prednisone. This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :( It's such a feeling of desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything about it. Cassandra "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears, one destroys." --Chief Dan George "I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948) - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
Cassandra, I hope hope hope he pulls through this! I'm thinking of you in this tough time. I know what it's like to feel helpless, wishing you could do something. I've never lost a pet this way, but I've lost people, and there's no difference in my mind. Prayers for you and Tomi.Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C & J Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked. He's been lethargic again lately. The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week and a half. I just don't understand it. After his transfusion, his blood count went up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19. Now in the last few weeks, its gone down to 17, and now 11. I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day. I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood. The vet says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think another transfusion would be worth it. I don't know what the heck else to do. Maybe I should stop his interferon while giving him the prednisone. This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :( It's such a feeling of desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything about it. Cassandra
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
I'm so sorry to hear about Torri, I know how hard it is, as we all do. Just thought I'd put out my 2c. For low dose oral interferon, what I've read is that it's unlikely that the kitty will develop a "tolerance" to it, unlikely that it will lose effect. One theory (note just a theory) is that the FELV kitty isn't producing his own interferon, and this is merely a supplement for what's not there. However, once they're ill, meaning once the virus has mutated into a new form of virus, what I've read is that it's not going to reverse the illness and kill / or cut back on the virus. Kitty will progress thru the illness unless there's something else (unknown) that can stop the virus. I would personally guess the interferon *may* help to maintain whatever health kitty has - and this is not to be taken lightly. But not reverse the illness. But... taking him off interferon might escalate illness. I've had two cats die within a couple of weeks after stopping daily low-dose oral interferon. Think I was giving .5cc daily. I've also read that oral low-dose interferon is an immune system "modulator", note a booster necessarily. Immunoregulin is an immune system booster, and I don't know much about it other than it can help in other situations. My take, IMHO, Blessings, Gloria At 06:37 PM 4/13/2007, C & J wrote: He's been on the interferon for about 2.5 weeks at 1cc per day. It doesn't look like its ever helped him though, since his PCV was at 19 before I started using it, and has been going down ever since. Cassandra - Original Message - From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Hideyo Yamamoto To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: RE: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( How long are you giving him interferon? If it's been for a few weeks, is it possible that it is losing effect from antibody? -- From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C & J Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:08 PM To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked. He's been lethargic again lately. The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week and a half. I just don't understand it. After his transfusion, his blood count went up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19. Now in the last few weeks, its gone down to 17, and now 11. I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day. I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood. The vet says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think another transfusion would be worth it. I don't know what the heck else to do. Maybe I should stop his interferon while giving him the prednisone. This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :( It's such a feeling of desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything about it. Cassandra -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM
Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
He's been on the interferon for about 2.5 weeks at 1cc per day. It doesn't look like its ever helped him though, since his PCV was at 19 before I started using it, and has been going down ever since. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: RE: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( How long are you giving him interferon? If it's been for a few weeks, is it possible that it is losing effect from antibody? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C & J Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked. He's been lethargic again lately. The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week and a half. I just don't understand it. After his transfusion, his blood count went up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19. Now in the last few weeks, its gone down to 17, and now 11. I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day. I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood. The vet says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think another transfusion would be worth it. I don't know what the heck else to do. Maybe I should stop his interferon while giving him the prednisone. This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :( It's such a feeling of desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything about it. Cassandra -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM
RE: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(
How long are you giving him interferon? If it's been for a few weeks, is it possible that it is losing effect from antibody? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C & J Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :( I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked. He's been lethargic again lately. The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week and a half. I just don't understand it. After his transfusion, his blood count went up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19. Now in the last few weeks, its gone down to 17, and now 11. I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day. I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood. The vet says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think another transfusion would be worth it. I don't know what the heck else to do. Maybe I should stop his interferon while giving him the prednisone. This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :( It's such a feeling of desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything about it. Cassandra
