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Folks around here laugh because I stop and move turtles across the road so they won't get hit. I even move snakes out of the way when working in the garden. Will admit that it is usually cool and they can't move too fast so copperheads, rattlers and spread heads get moved to the other side of the road out of harms way.I get frustrated with the raccoons because they can be so destructive, but they are cute so they are still around with the possums, deer, groundhog, squirrels and every other creature of the woods. Got must have made them for a purpose. I have always had dogs and cats for pets, even a ew chickens. Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: My mom didn't like cats either, but I know where I came from. My gramma loved dogs and cats and I spent a log of time with her. My Mom loved loved dogs, we had 12 collies living with us, but NO CATS!! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Edna, Can't say I blame you for not backing down on the declawing. My mom didn't even like cats enough to adopt one. I never figured out how I became such an animal lover, because I was always dragging home injured animals and Mom would say Get that filthy thing out of here. If my mom saw how many cats I have now she'd turn over in her grave. Lorrie On 10-04, Edna Taylor wrote: Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her NO because she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they were kittens and I say that's because you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom. That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and for what? furniture? pppft. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did. Declawing is cruel and inhumane :( Edna __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Amen, and don't buy expensive furniture either. It is replaceable. The effects of declawing are far worse than house items! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:43:38 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw Folks around here laugh because I stop and move turtles across the road so they won't get hit. I even move snakes out of the way when working in the garden. Will admit that it is usually cool and they can't move too fast so copperheads, rattlers and spread heads get moved to the other side of the road out of harms way.I get frustrated with the raccoons because they can be so destructive, but they are cute so they are still around with the possums, deer, groundhog, squirrels and every other creature of the woods. Got must have made them for a purpose. I have always had dogs and cats for pets, even a ew chickens. Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: My mom didn't like cats either, but I know where I came from. My gramma loved dogs and cats and I spent a log of time with her. My Mom loved loved dogs, we had 12 collies living with us, but NO CATS!! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Edna, Can't say I blame you for not backing down on the declawing. My mom didn't even like cats enough to adopt one. I never figured out how I became such an animal lover, because I was always dragging home injured animals and Mom would say Get that filthy thing out of here. If my mom saw how many cats I have now she'd turn over in her grave. Lorrie On 10-04, Edna Taylor wrote: Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her NO because she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they were kittens and I say that's because you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom. That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and for what? furniture? pppft. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did. Declawing is cruel and inhumane :( Edna __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You declawed your cat? I will send you some information about this. It is NOT a good thing to do. People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They think it's just a manicure, but it's actually amputation of the digit of each toe along with the nail. It's a very serious and excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It is in fact ten different amputations! Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a simple procedure. It is NOT. Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability biting (they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense). The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and defecating outside of the litter box. The reason is that it is extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many cases a cat will never use it's box again. Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons. Here's a perfect example: We know of a couple who, when expecting a baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6 years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them. Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk, hoist her body up to a high-up perch. Most important of all, claws are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an attacker if she should get outside by accident. All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed. Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in excruciating pain. Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage, immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain. Declawing is a major operation. The patient is first put under general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood. Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out with the trash. Declawing Sites www. stopdeclaw.com a powerful anti-declaw site. www.declawing.com -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes declawing in plain English. www.de-clawing.com www.declaw.com www.catscratching.com Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it, plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is. On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote: You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx with FeLV that we would be seeing them a lot more often then planned, I also recommened them to everyone and sometimes get discounts for refering friends. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Also: http://www.*pawproject*.*org*/ http://www.pawproject.org/ Technically, it's like getting your fingers cut off at the first knuckle, except that all that cats have for fingers are their claws. So it's really like having all your entire fingers (and thumbs) cut off, so you can't pick up anything anymore---and also (even if you only declaw the front) all of your toes, so you can't walk without pain (including back pain). Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NQOzwj41Pc On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: You declawed your cat? I will send you some information about this. It is NOT a good thing to do. People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They think it's just a manicure, but it's actually amputation of the digit of each toe along with the nail. It's a very serious and excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It is in fact ten different amputations! Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a simple procedure. It is NOT. Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability biting (they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense). The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and defecating outside of the litter box. The reason is that it is extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many cases a cat will never use it's box again. Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons. Here's a perfect example: We know of a couple who, when expecting a baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6 years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them. Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk, hoist her body up to a high-up perch. Most important of all, claws are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an attacker if she should get outside by accident. All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed. Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in excruciating pain. Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage, immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain. Declawing is a major operation. The patient is first put under general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood. Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out with the trash. Declawing Sites www. stopdeclaw.com a powerful anti-declaw site. www.declawing.com -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes declawing in plain English. www.de-clawing.com www.declaw.com www.catscratching.com Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it, plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is. On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote: You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx with FeLV that we would be seeing them a lot more often then planned, I also recommened them to everyone and sometimes get discounts for refering friends. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation:
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I no longer declaw my cats, Zoey passed away a week ago, I no longer declaw my cats. From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw You declawed your cat? I will send you some information about this. It is NOT a good thing to do. People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They think it's just a manicure, but it's actually amputation of the digit of each toe along with the nail. It's a very serious and excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It is in fact ten different amputations! Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a simple procedure. It is NOT. Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability biting (they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense). The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and defecating outside of the litter box. The reason is that it is extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many cases a cat will never use it's box again. Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons. Here's a perfect example: We know of a couple who, when expecting a baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6 years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them. Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk, hoist her body up to a high-up perch. Most important of all, claws are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an attacker if she should get outside by accident. All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed. Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in excruciating pain. Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage, immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain. Declawing is a major operation. The patient is first put under general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood. Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out with the trash. Declawing Sites www. stopdeclaw.com a powerful anti-declaw site. http://www.declawing.com/ -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes declawing in plain English. http://www.de-clawing.com/ http://www.declaw.com/ http://www.catscratching.com/ Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it, plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is. On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote: You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx with FeLV that we would be seeing them a lot more often then planned, I also recommened them to everyone and sometimes get discounts for refering friends. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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thanks everyone for the information. i know it is wrong and i no longer do it to my animals, the last one i did was over 5 years ago and he has long sinced passed. I felt horrible once i had seen what they really do. Thanks for the reminding information. From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw Also: http://www.pawproject.org/ Technically, it's like getting your fingers cut off at the first knuckle, except that all that cats have for fingers are their claws. So it's really like having all your entire fingers (and thumbs) cut off, so you can't pick up anything anymore---and also (even if you only declaw the front) all of your toes, so you can't walk without pain (including back pain). Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NQOzwj41Pc On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: You declawed your cat? I will send you some information about this. It is NOT a good thing to do. People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They think it's just a manicure, but it's actually amputation of the digit of each toe along with the nail. It's a very serious and excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It is in fact ten different amputations! Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a simple procedure. It is NOT. Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability biting (they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense). The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and defecating outside of the litter box. The reason is that it is extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many cases a cat will never use it's box again. Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons. Here's a perfect example: We know of a couple who, when expecting a baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6 years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them. Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk, hoist her body up to a high-up perch. Most important of all, claws are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an attacker if she should get outside by accident. All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed. Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in excruciating pain. Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage, immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain. Declawing is a major operation. The patient is first put under general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood. Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out with the trash. Declawing Sites www. stopdeclaw.com a powerful anti-declaw site. http://www.declawing.com/ -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes declawing in plain English. http://www.de-clawing.com/ http://www.declaw.com/ http://www.catscratching.com/ Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it, plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is. On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote: You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx with FeLV that we would be seeing them a lot more often then planned, I also recommened them to everyone and sometimes get discounts for refering friends. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you
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Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her NO because she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they were kittens and I say that's because you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom. That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and for what? furniture? pppft. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did. Declawing is cruel and inhumane :( Joslin, I am sorry for your loss of Zoey :( Edna Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:10:58 -0700 From: joslinir...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw I no longer declaw my cats, Zoey passed away a week ago, I no longer declaw my cats. From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw You declawed your cat? I will send you some information about this. It is NOT a good thing to do. People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They think it's just a manicure, but it's actually amputation of the digit of each toe along with the nail. It's a very serious and excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It is in fact ten different amputations! Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a simple procedure. It is NOT. Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability biting (they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense). The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and defecating outside of the litter box. The reason is that it is extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many cases a cat will never use it's box again. Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons. Here's a perfect example: We know of a couple who, when expecting a baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6 years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them. Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk, hoist her body up to a high-up perch. Most important of all, claws are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an attacker if she should get outside by accident. All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed. Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in excruciating pain. Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage, immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain. Declawing is a major operation. The patient is first put under general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood. Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out with the trash. Declawing Sites www. stopdeclaw.com a powerful anti-declaw site. http://www.declawing.com/ -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes declawing in plain English. http://www.de-clawing.com/ http://www.declaw.com/ http://www.catscratching.com/ Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it, plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is. On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote: You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx with FeLV that we would be seeing them a lot more often then planned, I also recommened them to everyone and sometimes get discounts for refering friends. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
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Thanks, it's okay. He had FeLV and we did everything we could to keep him alive, he lived over four years with the disease. I was so proud of him, and happy that we got a chance to have him in our family. From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her NO because she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they were kittens and I say that's because you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom. That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and for what? furniture? pppft. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did. Declawing is cruel and inhumane :( Joslin, I am sorry for your loss of Zoey :( Edna Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:10:58 -0700 From: joslinir...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw I no longer declaw my cats, Zoey passed away a week ago, I no longer declaw my cats. From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw You declawed your cat? I will send you some information about this. It is NOT a good thing to do. People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They think it's just a manicure, but it's actually amputation of the digit of each toe along with the nail. It's a very serious and excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It is in fact ten different amputations! Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a simple procedure. It is NOT. Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability biting (they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense). The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and defecating outside of the litter box. The reason is that it is extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many cases a cat will never use it's box again. Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons. Here's a perfect example: We know of a couple who, when expecting a baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6 years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them. Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk, hoist her body up to a high-up perch. Most important of all, claws are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an attacker if she should get outside by accident. All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed. Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in excruciating pain. Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage, immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain. Declawing is a major operation. The patient is first put under general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood. Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out with the trash. Declawing Sites www. stopdeclaw.com a powerful anti-declaw site. http://www.declawing.com/ -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes declawing in plain English. http://www.de-clawing.com/ http://www.declaw.com/ http://www.catscratching.com/ Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it, plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is. On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote: You make
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Declawing can also result in litterbox issues Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her NO because she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they were kittens and I say that's because you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom. That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and for what? furniture? pppft. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did. Declawing is cruel and inhumane :( Joslin, I am sorry for your loss of Zoey :( Edna Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:10:58 -0700 From: joslinir...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw I no longer declaw my cats, Zoey passed away a week ago, I no longer declaw my cats. From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw You declawed your cat? I will send you some information about this. It is NOT a good thing to do. People don't realize what's involved when a cat is declawed. They think it's just a manicure, but it's actually amputation of the digit of each toe along with the nail. It's a very serious and excruciatingly painful surgery to inflict on cats and kittens. It is in fact ten different amputations! Because some veterinarians advocate it, to make extra $$$, people believe that there are no risks involved and think it's merely a simple procedure. It is NOT. Veterinarians who perform this surgery do not tell people that this surgery can cause all or a combination of all the following Personality changes, such as withdrawal, unpredictability biting (they now feel helpless, as biting is their only means of defense). The most common problem with declawed cats is urinating and defecating outside of the litter box. The reason is that it is extremely painful to step on litter after the surgery, and in many cases a cat will never use it's box again. Walk into any shelter and you'll see many declawed cats there who have been given up, due to one or more of the above reasons. Here's a perfect example: We know of a couple who, when expecting a baby, had their two adult cats declawed; what they got instead, was far more dangerous to a baby than scratching - unpredictable and serious biting! They had no choice but to have their cats of 6 years killed because no one in their right mind would adopt them. Cats need claws for many reasons During play her claws snag flying toys out of the air and hold them in place. A cat uses claws to scratch an itch, manipulate catnip mice, grip a narrow catwalk, hoist her body up to a high-up perch. Most important of all, claws are lifesavers, enabling a cat to climb to safety or thwart an attacker if she should get outside by accident. All this and much more is lost when a cat is declawed. Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in excruciating pain. Cats huddle in the corner of the recovery cage, immobilized in a state of helplessness, overwhelmed with pain. Declawing is a major operation. The patient is first put under general anesthesia, as the pain would be torturous without it. A tourniquet is placed around the first paw to be declawed. The veterinarian then performs a series of ten amputations. Each amputation removes the claw and the bone into which it is firmly rooted. The supporting tendons and ligaments for each claw are severed. The surrounding soft tissue and flesh is cut off, and a veterinary technician bandages up kitty's paws to soak up the blood. Kitty is now declawed. The retractable claws that she would have used throughout her life for scratching, playing, walking, and self defense lie in a heap on the table, waiting to get thrown out with the trash. Declawing Sites www. stopdeclaw.coma powerful anti-declaw site. http://www.declawing.com/ -- veterinarian Christianne Schelling describes declawing in plain English. http://www.de-clawing.com/ http://www.declaw.com/ http://www.catscratching.com/ Declawing has been banned in over 20 other countries. I think the only reason it's still done here is vets make a lot of money from it, plus people are uninformed about how cruel and painful it is. On 10-03, Joslin Potter wrote: You make a good point Natialie, When we took Zoey in to be fixed and declawed we didn't realize that in a few months when he was dx with FeLV that we would be seeing them a lot more often then planned, I also recommened them
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Edna, Can't say I blame you for not backing down on the declawing. My mom didn't even like cats enough to adopt one. I never figured out how I became such an animal lover, because I was always dragging home injured animals and Mom would say Get that filthy thing out of here. If my mom saw how many cats I have now she'd turn over in her grave. Lorrie On 10-04, Edna Taylor wrote: Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her NO because she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they were kittens and I say that's because you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom. That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and for what? furniture? pppft. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did. Declawing is cruel and inhumane :( Edna __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My mom didn't like cats either, but I know where I came from. My gramma loved dogs and cats and I spent a log of time with her. My Mom loved loved dogs, we had 12 collies living with us, but NO CATS!! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Edna, Can't say I blame you for not backing down on the declawing. My mom didn't even like cats enough to adopt one. I never figured out how I became such an animal lover, because I was always dragging home injured animals and Mom would say Get that filthy thing out of here. If my mom saw how many cats I have now she'd turn over in her grave. Lorrie On 10-04, Edna Taylor wrote: Lorrie, I agree with you 100%. My Mom has wanted to adopt several kittens I have had in the past and I have always told her NO because she declaws, then she complains that her cats aren't as sweet and social as they were when they were kittens and I say that's because you tortured and mutilated them, good going Mom. That is one position that I will NOT back down from and I don't care if it hurts my Mom's feelings because she should have never done it in the first place and for what? furniture? pppft. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mom but I don't agree with what she did. Declawing is cruel and inhumane :( Edna __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
