Re: DD's allergies again....
My Lancelot also has cruddy itchy ears... Gloria On Jul 5, 2005, at 11:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Snowball, who had FIV, always had cruddy itchy ears. Simon always had black stuff in his ears too. I think some immune- compromised cats get that. It was not earmites for them. Sometimes it can be a yeast infection in the ears. You might want to get a swab checked for that. It requires special meds. Steroids make yeast worse. Michelle
Re: DD's allergies again....
The mineral oil generally wont hurt anything, UNLESS your cat also has Feline Acne, or is a Persian with Idiopathic Facial Dermatitis. In those two cases, steer clear of any oils. http://www.fabcats.org/acneandstudtail.html Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Thanks Michelle, My fiv cat didn't have yeast, just yucky ears. Nothing really helped as far as making it 'go away' permanently. I just had to clean, clean, clean. I've only dealt with yeast infections with dogs' ears and they smelled horribly! Still, there is no infection type smell at all. I have to take Shaft in for a recheck urinalysis next week and I'm going to change the appointment to just take miss DD in with him so her ears can be checked to see if there is anything that needs to be treated. Right now I'm cleaning every other day with mineral oil. If it happens to be earmites mineral oil usually kills them. If it's not I don't think it can hurt anything. t No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 7/6/2005
Re: DD's allergies again....
Thank you! I remember reading that now. I'll switch over!! tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello My Dear,I'm glad DD is going in to let the vet have a look-see in those ears. It's probably nothing, but I always feel better when I get an expert opinion. Just wanted to pass on something my vet told me when I was looking for solutions to the earmite problems with one of my ferals... She said to mix the ivermectin with olive oil instead of mineral oil. Apparently there is something in mineral oil that isn't good for cat's ears.Ninacatatonya wrote:> Thanks Michelle,> > My fiv cat didn't have yeast, just yucky ears. Nothing really helped > as far as making it 'go away' permanently. I just had to clean, > clean, clean. I've only dealt with yeast infections with dogs' ears > and they smelled horribly!> > Still, there is no infection type smell at all. I have to take Shaft > in for a recheck urinalysis next week and I'm going to change the > appointment to just take miss DD in with him so her ears can be > checked to see if there is anything that needs to be treated. Right > now I'm cleaning every other day with mineral oil. If it happens to > be earmites mineral oil usually kills them. If it's not I don't think > it can hurt anything.> > t>> */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:>> Tonya,> Yeast infections in ears do not smell, at least not to me. I> did not smell anything with the two of mine who had them.> Michelle> > In a message dated 7/6/05 12:56:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:>> Thanks Michelle,> > I hadn't thought about a yeast infection, but I've dealt> with them in dogs. I have allergies myself and can't smell> things that well, but I would definitely smell a yeast> infection! I was thinking about the immune thing as well. The> other 2 cats that had goopy ears are older cats. One of them> was the one who had been on the zythromax for bartonella with> gum infections and the other is the older cat who's always had> allergy problems and has the urinary infection. So anyway,> the point of all that is I think it does have to do with their> immunity being down. :(> t>
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Hello My Dear, I'm glad DD is going in to let the vet have a look-see in those ears. It's probably nothing, but I always feel better when I get an expert opinion. Just wanted to pass on something my vet told me when I was looking for solutions to the earmite problems with one of my ferals... She said to mix the ivermectin with olive oil instead of mineral oil. Apparently there is something in mineral oil that isn't good for cat's ears. Nina catatonya wrote: Thanks Michelle, My fiv cat didn't have yeast, just yucky ears. Nothing really helped as far as making it 'go away' permanently. I just had to clean, clean, clean. I've only dealt with yeast infections with dogs' ears and they smelled horribly! Still, there is no infection type smell at all. I have to take Shaft in for a recheck urinalysis next week and I'm going to change the appointment to just take miss DD in with him so her ears can be checked to see if there is anything that needs to be treated. Right now I'm cleaning every other day with mineral oil. If it happens to be earmites mineral oil usually kills them. If it's not I don't think it can hurt anything. t */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Tonya, Yeast infections in ears do not smell, at least not to me. I did not smell anything with the two of mine who had them. Michelle In a message dated 7/6/05 12:56:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Michelle, I hadn't thought about a yeast infection, but I've dealt with them in dogs. I have allergies myself and can't smell things that well, but I would definitely smell a yeast infection! I was thinking about the immune thing as well. The other 2 cats that had goopy ears are older cats. One of them was the one who had been on the zythromax for bartonella with gum infections and the other is the older cat who's always had allergy problems and has the urinary infection. So anyway, the point of all that is I think it does have to do with their immunity being down. :( t
Re: DD's allergies again....
Thanks Michelle, My fiv cat didn't have yeast, just yucky ears. Nothing really helped as far as making it 'go away' permanently. I just had to clean, clean, clean. I've only dealt with yeast infections with dogs' ears and they smelled horribly! Still, there is no infection type smell at all. I have to take Shaft in for a recheck urinalysis next week and I'm going to change the appointment to just take miss DD in with him so her ears can be checked to see if there is anything that needs to be treated. Right now I'm cleaning every other day with mineral oil. If it happens to be earmites mineral oil usually kills them. If it's not I don't think it can hurt anything. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonya, Yeast infections in ears do not smell, at least not to me. I did not smell anything with the two of mine who had them. Michelle In a message dated 7/6/05 12:56:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Michelle, I hadn't thought about a yeast infection, but I've dealt with them in dogs. I have allergies myself and can't smell things that well, but I would definitely smell a yeast infection! I was thinking about the immune thing as well. The other 2 cats that had goopy ears are older cats. One of them was the one who had been on the zythromax for bartonella with gum infections and the other is the older cat who's always had allergy problems and has the urinary infection. So anyway, the point of all that is I think it does have to do with their immunity being down. :( t
Re: DD's allergies again....
Tonya, Yeast infections in ears do not smell, at least not to me. I did not smell anything with the two of mine who had them. Michelle In a message dated 7/6/05 12:56:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Michelle, I hadn't thought about a yeast infection, but I've dealt with them in dogs. I have allergies myself and can't smell things that well, but I would definitely smell a yeast infection! I was thinking about the immune thing as well. The other 2 cats that had goopy ears are older cats. One of them was the one who had been on the zythromax for bartonella with gum infections and the other is the older cat who's always had allergy problems and has the urinary infection. So anyway, the point of all that is I think it does have to do with their immunity being down. :( t
Re: DD's allergies again....
Thanks Michelle, I hadn't thought about a yeast infection, but I've dealt with them in dogs. I have allergies myself and can't smell things that well, but I would definitely smell a yeast infection! I was thinking about the immune thing as well. The other 2 cats that had goopy ears are older cats. One of them was the one who had been on the zythromax for bartonella with gum infections and the other is the older cat who's always had allergy problems and has the urinary infection. So anyway, the point of all that is I think it does have to do with their immunity being down. :( t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Snowball, who had FIV, always had cruddy itchy ears. Simon always had black stuff in his ears too. I think some immune-compromised cats get that. It was not earmites for them. Sometimes it can be a yeast infection in the ears. You might want to get a swab checked for that. It requires special meds. Steroids make yeast worse. Michelle
Re: DD's allergies again....
Hey Nina, I smelled their ears and they didn't smell bad like were infected. The fiv cat I had years ago always had ear problems, and if they would get bad like this they would smell really bad. Also, I forgot to say that with DD it was just one ear. And it's the side she's been having the scratch places. I guess she'll get to go in to the vet I think if it were earmites they would be on both sides. I'm just surprised. It 'seems' like they've just been to the vet. But I think it always seems that way because I have so many. lol. When I pull out the records and check it's always longer since they've been since I remember. The vet usually looks into their ears, but she doesn't swab them unless they look dirty. I'm just surprised the ear could have got that bad that fast, since the last time I took her in and we were trying to find out what was going on with her overgrooming and the patch on her neck. ugh tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not sure how they could have picked up earmites if they haven't been outside, and no one new has come in. How long do the nasty little buggers live off of a host? I would be concerned about a dark discharge no matter what it is, the dark cruddy stuff is usually blood mixed with flaking skin. Does it smell bad as well? Poor babies. Hopefully this does not mean DD's immune system is weakened. After all, she's not the only one with the problem. Let us know what you find out.Ninacatatonya wrote:> Any ideas anyone?> > I've got some new info. about DD. As I've written before DD > overgrooms on her tummy and legs, but there have also been a couple of > raw places on her neck too. When looking at those places the vet has > said it's allergies. I had wondered if she had gotten into a fight or > something because they looked bloody.> > Well anyway, the past few days I noticed 2 OTHER cats scratching at > their ears. One of them is on pred. for allergies and has often > scratched his ears due to that. The other has had no problems.> > So I started watching DD to see if I could catch her scratching at her > ears as well, which I did.> > Yesterday I got out the q-tips and mineral oil and clippers and > decided to do nail trims and check ears.> > All 3 of them had very bad discharge in their ears. It was very > black. It looked like when cats have earmites (but I have never been > able to actually 'see' the actual mites like some people say they > can. None of my cats go outside. The last new cat they came in was > Mama Kitty over a year ago. Her ears were perfectly clean.> > Could they have got earmites here in the house? I had a couple of > mice caught by one of these cats this past winter. > > If it's not earmites they definitely must have something going on. > I've never seen allergies cause this much discharge. With allergies > in the past Shaft has scratched at his ears, but when I would clean > his ears it was more of a liquid light colored discharge. Not the > thick, black 'crud' kind of stuff you see with mites.> > I just hope that this ear thing on top of the allergies doesn't mean > DD's immune system is getting weak. I haven't had her on interferon, > but I think I'll start it.> > tonya> >
Re: DD's allergies again....
My Snowball, who had FIV, always had cruddy itchy ears. Simon always had black stuff in his ears too. I think some immune-compromised cats get that. It was not earmites for them. Sometimes it can be a yeast infection in the ears. You might want to get a swab checked for that. It requires special meds. Steroids make yeast worse. Michelle
Re: DD's allergies again....
I'm not sure how they could have picked up earmites if they haven't been outside, and no one new has come in. How long do the nasty little buggers live off of a host? I would be concerned about a dark discharge no matter what it is, the dark cruddy stuff is usually blood mixed with flaking skin. Does it smell bad as well? Poor babies. Hopefully this does not mean DD's immune system is weakened. After all, she's not the only one with the problem. Let us know what you find out. Nina catatonya wrote: Any ideas anyone? I've got some new info. about DD. As I've written before DD overgrooms on her tummy and legs, but there have also been a couple of raw places on her neck too. When looking at those places the vet has said it's allergies. I had wondered if she had gotten into a fight or something because they looked bloody. Well anyway, the past few days I noticed 2 OTHER cats scratching at their ears. One of them is on pred. for allergies and has often scratched his ears due to that. The other has had no problems. So I started watching DD to see if I could catch her scratching at her ears as well, which I did. Yesterday I got out the q-tips and mineral oil and clippers and decided to do nail trims and check ears. All 3 of them had very bad discharge in their ears. It was very black. It looked like when cats have earmites (but I have never been able to actually 'see' the actual mites like some people say they can. None of my cats go outside. The last new cat they came in was Mama Kitty over a year ago. Her ears were perfectly clean. Could they have got earmites here in the house? I had a couple of mice caught by one of these cats this past winter. If it's not earmites they definitely must have something going on. I've never seen allergies cause this much discharge. With allergies in the past Shaft has scratched at his ears, but when I would clean his ears it was more of a liquid light colored discharge. Not the thick, black 'crud' kind of stuff you see with mites. I just hope that this ear thing on top of the allergies doesn't mean DD's immune system is getting weak. I haven't had her on interferon, but I think I'll start it. tonya
