Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Marylyn]

Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy.  The cat is very puzzled as to where he is 
and why.  No one explained this to him.  He may be used to staying up at night 
and have his days and nights confused.  If this is so a vet may be able to give 
the adopter some sort of tranquiller to help the cat get turned around.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelley Saveika 
  To: felvtalk 
  Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM
  Subject: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.


  Hi all,

  I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today and said 
he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at 
all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, 
but he will not let her sleep.  I need suggestions, or else this adopter will 
return this cat.  As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many 
options.  She is not petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the 
litterbox.  I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to 
try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. 

  Kelley


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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Nina]

Kelley,
Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and 
scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that 
she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out 
for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie 
Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat 
aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and 
would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what 
seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep, 
(sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back 
either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if 
she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she did 
settle down and start to feel safe and at home. 

Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or 
is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the 
adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if 
once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for 
good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may 
be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of 
their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human 
give him this consideration, I hope that she does.

Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:


Hi all,

I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today 
and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been 
able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate, 
likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need 
suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a 
black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not 
petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the litterbox.  
I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to try 
things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
 
Kelley



--
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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

I told her to try these and she said she will.

On 3/18/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy.  The cat is very puzzled as to where
he is and why.  No one explained this to him.  He may be used to staying up
at night and have his days and nights confused.  If this is so a vet may be
able to give the adopter some sort of tranquiller to help the cat get turned
around.






 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message -
*From:* Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* felvtalk 
*Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM
*Subject:* OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.



Hi all,
I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today and
said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to
sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give
her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need suggestions, or else this
adopter will return this cat.  As he's a black cat, he is not going to have
too many options.  She is not petting him when he is crying.  He is eating
and using the litterbox.  I don't know how to get this adopter past this.
She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much
longer than that.

Kelley


--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20





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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

Nina,

he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30
minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and
crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart.

She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   He
apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.
That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day on
Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.
She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she
cant' do that during the week.

Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much easier.  I
can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I am
frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the
moment.




On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Kelley,
Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and
scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that
she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and
would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep,
(sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if
she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she did
settle down and start to feel safe and at home.

Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or
is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if
once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for
good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may
be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of
their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human
give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today
> and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been
> able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate,
> likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need
> suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the litterbox.
> I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to try
> things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
>
> Kelley
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[TenHouseCats]

i, of course, say he's lovely after leaving kelley's menagerie there's
no one to PLAY with in the middle of the night at his new house, so of
course he wants to wake mommy up!

On 3/18/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Nina,

he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for
20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing
and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart.

She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   He
apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.
That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day on
Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.
She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she
cant' do that during the week.

Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much easier.  I
can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I am
frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the
moment.




On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kelley,
> Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and
> scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that
> she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
> for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
> Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
> aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and
> would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
> seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep,
> (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
> either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if
> she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she did
> settle down and start to feel safe and at home.
>
> Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or
> is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
> adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if
> once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for
> good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may
> be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of
> their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human
> give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
> Nina
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today
> > and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been
> > able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate,
> > likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need
> > suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> > black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> > petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the litterbox.
> > I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to try
> > things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
> >
> > Kelley
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
>
>


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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Gloria Lane]

Some in our group use Elavil ear cream - to relax a stressed kitty.   
Also of course, Rescue Remedy, as someone mentioned.


Gloria



On Mar 18, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Marylyn wrote:

Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy.  The cat is very puzzled as to  
where he is and why.  No one explained this to him.  He may be used  
to staying up at night and have his days and nights confused.  If  
this is so a vet may be able to give the adopter some sort of  
tranquiller to help the cat get turned around.







 If you have men  
who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter  
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise  
with their fellow man.
   
St. Francis

- Original Message -
From: Kelley Saveika
To: felvtalk
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

Hi all,

I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today  
and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't  
been able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very  
affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her  
sleep.  I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this  
cat.  As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many  
options.  She is not petting him when he is crying.  He is eating  
and using the litterbox.  I don't know how to get this adopter past  
this.  She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't  
think much longer than that.


Kelley


--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Susan Hoffman]

Maybe she should try petting him and comforting him, if this seems like a 
really distressed crying sort of thing.  Is there dry food and water down at 
night, so he knows he isn't going to go hungry?  A bedtime snack could help too 
-- canned food, a little shredded chicken or canned tuna, some kind of treat to 
settle him for the night.  Might be worth wearing him out a little earlier in 
the evening -- one of those trackball toys or a laser light, throw in some 
catnip.  
   
  He needs a little adjustment time, and some spoiling to welcome him to his 
new home.  Maybe a few days, with ear plugs for the adopter?

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,
  I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today and said 
he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at 
all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, 
but he will not let her sleep.  I need suggestions, or else this adopter will 
return this cat.  As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many 
options.  She is not petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the 
litterbox.  I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to 
try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. 
   
  Kelley


-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

I don't think she is taking the food up at night.  I will have to ask.  He
has a lot of toys and is not showing much interest (something else that
worries me).  She is trying to play with him before bed to wear him out.  It
isn't helping.  He's only eating canned food apparently.  I sent them home
with canned and dry felidae, but he's only eating the canned...

On 3/18/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Maybe she should try petting him and comforting him, if this seems like
a really distressed crying sort of thing.  Is there dry food and water down
at night, so he knows he isn't going to go hungry?  A bedtime snack could
help too -- canned food, a little shredded chicken or canned tuna, some kind
of treat to settle him for the night.  Might be worth wearing him out a
little earlier in the evening -- one of those trackball toys or a laser
light, throw in some catnip.

He needs a little adjustment time, and some spoiling to welcome him to his
new home.  Maybe a few days, with ear plugs for the adopter?

*Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

Hi all,
I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today and
said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to
sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give
her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need suggestions, or else this
adopter will return this cat.  As he's a black cat, he is not going to have
too many options.  She is not petting him when he is crying.  He is eating
and using the litterbox.  I don't know how to get this adopter past this.
She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much
longer than that.

Kelley


--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






--
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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

I have scads of elavil here, for nonlitter box users (I have way too many of
those).  She doesn't want to go that route though.  I have pill form,
liquid, and transdermal.  I am about ready to go take some myself.  Sigh.  I
don't know why this is stressing me out so much, other than that I feel very
sorry for him.

I have some senior kitties here that would LOVE to be by themselves, but she
took a ferret home from the rescue zoo where she used to work.  Basically
she took him home so he'd have somewhere to die.  He lived about a year and
a half after she brought him hiome, and she doesnt' want to go through that
again.

We all know there is just no telling how long they will live, but
statistically a 1 year old cat is going to live a lot longer than a 12 year
old.



On 3/18/07, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Some in our group use Elavil ear cream - to relax a stressed kitty.  Also
of course, Rescue Remedy, as someone mentioned.

Gloria





 On Mar 18, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Marylyn wrote:

 Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy.  The cat is very puzzled as to where
he is and why.  No one explained this to him.  He may be used to staying up
at night and have his days and nights confused.  If this is so a vet may be
able to give the adopter some sort of tranquiller to help the cat get turned
around.






 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis

- Original Message -
*From:* Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* felvtalk 
*Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM
*Subject:* OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.



Hi all,
I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today and
said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to
sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give
her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need suggestions, or else this
adopter will return this cat.  As he's a black cat, he is not going to have
too many options.  She is not petting him when he is crying.  He is eating
and using the litterbox.  I don't know how to get this adopter past this.
She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much
longer than that.

Kelley


--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20









--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Susan Hoffman]

Does he like catnip?  What sort of treat-foods does he like?  The first few 
days in a new home -- I want adopters to spoil a cat so wel that the cat would 
be horrified at the thought of coming back to my crowded little house.
   
  Did he sleep with anyone in particular at night?  Could he be missing 
someone?  Is he "crying" (unhappy, distrssed) or calling for someone?
   
  

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I don't think she is taking the food up at night.  I will have to ask.  He 
has a lot of toys and is not showing much interest (something else that worries 
me).  She is trying to play with him before bed to wear him out.  It isn't 
helping.  He's only eating canned food apparently.  I sent them home with 
canned and dry felidae, but he's only eating the canned... 

  On 3/18/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe she should try 
petting him and comforting him, if this seems like a really distressed crying 
sort of thing.  Is there dry food and water down at night, so he knows he isn't 
going to go hungry?  A bedtime snack could help too -- canned food, a little 
shredded chicken or canned tuna, some kind of treat to settle him for the 
night.  Might be worth wearing him out a little earlier in the evening -- one 
of those trackball toys or a laser light, throw in some catnip.  
   
  He needs a little adjustment time, and some spoiling to welcome him to his 
new home.  Maybe a few days, with ear plugs for the adopter?

Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi all,
  I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today and said 
he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at 
all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, 
but he will not let her sleep.  I need suggestions, or else this adopter will 
return this cat.  As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many 
options.  She is not petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the 
litterbox.  I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to 
try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. 
   
  Kelley


-- 
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http://www.rescuties.org 

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 





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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! 

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

She has tried catnip.  She really did try a bunch of different things before
calling me.  I wish she had called a little sooner.

He didn't seem attached to anyone in particular.  Sometimes he slept with
me.  I haven't heard him so I am not sure.  She says he is fine and a
wonderful cat during the day.  He helped her do laundry earlier.


On 3/18/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Does he like catnip?  What sort of treat-foods does he like?  The first
few days in a new home -- I want adopters to spoil a cat so wel that the cat
would be horrified at the thought of coming back to my crowded little house.

Did he sleep with anyone in particular at night?  Could he be missing
someone?  Is he "crying" (unhappy, distrssed) or calling for someone?



*Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

I don't think she is taking the food up at night.  I will have to ask.  He
has a lot of toys and is not showing much interest (something else that
worries me).  She is trying to play with him before bed to wear him out.  It
isn't helping.  He's only eating canned food apparently.  I sent them home
with canned and dry felidae, but he's only eating the canned...

On 3/18/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maybe she should try petting him and comforting him, if this seems like
> a really distressed crying sort of thing.  Is there dry food and water down
> at night, so he knows he isn't going to go hungry?  A bedtime snack could
> help too -- canned food, a little shredded chicken or canned tuna, some kind
> of treat to settle him for the night.  Might be worth wearing him out a
> little earlier in the evening -- one of those trackball toys or a laser
> light, throw in some catnip.
>
> He needs a little adjustment time, and some spoiling to welcome him to
> his new home.  Maybe a few days, with ear plugs for the adopter?
>
> *Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today and
> said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to
> sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give
> her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need suggestions, or else this
> adopter will return this cat.  As he's a black cat, he is not going to have
> too many options.  She is not petting him when he is crying.  He is eating
> and using the litterbox.  I don't know how to get this adopter past this.
> She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much
> longer than that.
>
> Kelley
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
>
>


--
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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






--
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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[wendy]

Hi Kelley,

Is this cat neutered?  If not, could it have something
to do with that?  Also, does the cat have the run of
the house at night?  If so, maybe he needs a smaller
space, like just the bedroom with the door closed and
with his food and litter box in there until he feels
safe, for a few days or so.  Maybe a towel from your
home that smells familiar will help also.  I really
hope this works out for him, her, and you.  

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter
> called me today and said
> he has been crying all night every night and she
> hasn't been able to sleep
> at all.  He is fine during the day, very
> affectionate, likes to give her
> kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need
> suggestions, or else this
> adopter will return this cat.  As he's a black cat,
> he is not going to have
> too many options.  She is not petting him when he is
> crying.  He is eating
> and using the litterbox.  I don't know how to get
> this adopter past this.
> She's willing to try things for a few more days, but
> I don't think much
> longer than that.
> 
> Kelley
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelly L]

At 04:24 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:



I would bring him into my bet and give a lot of cuddling,, a bit of 
cat nip on the pillow and a few treats under the blanket..and lot's 
of time . Poor thing is just plain scared and misplaced and feeling 
very alone,,,

Kelly lane



I have scads of elavil here, for nonlitter box users (I have way too 
many of those).  She doesn't want to go that route though.  I have 
pill form, liquid, and transdermal.  I am about ready to go take 
some myself.  Sigh.  I don't know why this is stressing me out so 
much, other than that I feel very sorry for him.


I have some senior kitties here that would LOVE to be by themselves, 
but she took a ferret home from the rescue zoo where she used to 
work.  Basically she took him home so he'd have somewhere to 
die.  He lived about a year and a half after she brought him hiome, 
and she doesnt' want to go through that again.


We all know there is just no telling how long they will live, but 
statistically a 1 year old cat is going to live a lot longer than a 
12 year old.




On 3/18/07, Gloria Lane 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Some in our group use Elavil ear cream - to relax a stressed 
kitty.  Also of course, Rescue Remedy, as someone mentioned.



Gloria





On Mar 18, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Marylyn wrote:

Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy.  The cat is very puzzled as to 
where he is and why.  No one explained this to him.  He may be used 
to staying up at night and have his days and nights confused.  If 
this is so a vet may be able to give the adopter some sort of 
tranquiller to help the cat get turned around.







 If you have men 
who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter 
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal 
likewise with their fellow man.


St. Francis
- Original Message -
From: Kelley Saveika
To: felvtalk
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.



Hi all,
I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today 
and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't 
been able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very 
affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her 
sleep.  I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this 
cat.  As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many 
options.  She is not petting him when he is crying.  He is eating 
and using the litterbox.  I don't know how to get this adopter past 
this.  She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't 
think much longer than that.


Kelley


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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Marylyn]

Have her spray the bed with the Feliway spray.  This is a very difficult time.  
I've been there several times myself.  Have her try giving him something 
special to eat when it is sleeping time.  I worked shifts that rotated every 28 
days for a while.  Ebony Thomas Katt--a 3 + year old feral--learned that when I 
said goodnight he could jump on the bed, get something special, and was 
supposed to nap until I got up.  It is doable.  Getting the patience to do it 
is the trick.   






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelley Saveika 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 5:11 PM
  Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.


  Nina,

  he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 
minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and 
crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart. 

  She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   He 
apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.  That's 
not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day on Friday and 
took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.  She says this 
weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during 
the week. 

  Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much easier.  I 
can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I am 
frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. 
 



   
  On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Kelley,
Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and
scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that 
she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat 
aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and
would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep,
(sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if
she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she did
settle down and start to feel safe and at home. 

Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or
is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if 
once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for
good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may
be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of 
their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human
give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today 
> and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been
> able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate,
> likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need 
> suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the litterbox. 
> I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to try
> things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
>
> Kelley
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Marylyn]

That raises another question/idea:  Dixie Louise goes on sprees where she 
hears/sees/smells things outside that drive her nuts and therefore, she 
drives me nuts.  Is there any chance that there are male or female cats 
outside that hang around?  I thought Dixie was being a pain until I detected 
the odor of cat spray on the outside of the house.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.



Hi Kelley,

Is this cat neutered?  If not, could it have something
to do with that?  Also, does the cat have the run of
the house at night?  If so, maybe he needs a smaller
space, like just the bedroom with the door closed and
with his food and litter box in there until he feels
safe, for a few days or so.  Maybe a towel from your
home that smells familiar will help also.  I really
hope this works out for him, her, and you.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi all,
I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter
called me today and said
he has been crying all night every night and she
hasn't been able to sleep
at all.  He is fine during the day, very
affectionate, likes to give her
kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need
suggestions, or else this
adopter will return this cat.  As he's a black cat,
he is not going to have
too many options.  She is not petting him when he is
crying.  He is eating
and using the litterbox.  I don't know how to get
this adopter past this.
She's willing to try things for a few more days, but
I don't think much
longer than that.

Kelley


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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Susan Hoffman]

When I first brought Scooter in a few years ago -- he was at that time around 
10 months old, still a little on the feral side with most people, and FIV+ -- 
he drove me nuts for the first couple of nights.  Around 3 or 4 am he would 
start running from window to window crying and looking for a way out.  I 
eventually figured it out -- I always fed him and a few other stray and feral 
cats on the front porch in the morning around 5:30 a.m.  He knew it was almost 
breakfast time and was trying to find a way to get out there so he wouldn't 
miss a meal.  Once he figured out that the real action was in the kitchen 
around 5:15 a.m. he stopped worrying so much about the front porch.
   
  You need to figure out what this cat is talking about, who he is calling or 
what he thinks he's going to have to do without.  He obviously likes the woman 
who adopted him.  If the food is better and more plentiful, the accomodations 
comfy and the company good, he should be quite happy.  So what does he think is 
lost?

Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  That raises another question/idea: Dixie Louise goes on sprees where she 
hears/sees/smells things outside that drive her nuts and therefore, she 
drives me nuts. Is there any chance that there are male or female cats 
outside that hang around? I thought Dixie was being a pain until I detected 
the odor of cat spray on the outside of the house.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "wendy" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.


> Hi Kelley,
>
> Is this cat neutered? If not, could it have something
> to do with that? Also, does the cat have the run of
> the house at night? If so, maybe he needs a smaller
> space, like just the bedroom with the door closed and
> with his food and litter box in there until he feels
> safe, for a few days or so. Maybe a towel from your
> home that smells familiar will help also. I really
> hope this works out for him, her, and you.
>
> :)
> Wendy
>
> --- Kelley Saveika wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter
>> called me today and said
>> he has been crying all night every night and she
>> hasn't been able to sleep
>> at all. He is fine during the day, very
>> affectionate, likes to give her
>> kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need
>> suggestions, or else this
>> adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat,
>> he is not going to have
>> too many options. She is not petting him when he is
>> crying. He is eating
>> and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get
>> this adopter past this.
>> She's willing to try things for a few more days, but
>> I don't think much
>> longer than that.
>>
>> Kelley
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>>
>> http://www.rescuties.org
>>
>> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>>
>> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

Hi Wendy,

Yes, he is neutered.  I don't do spay/neuter contracts.  Anyone who leaves
my house is altered.
I will try the towel idea.


On 3/18/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Kelley,

Is this cat neutered?  If not, could it have something
to do with that?  Also, does the cat have the run of
the house at night?  If so, maybe he needs a smaller
space, like just the bedroom with the door closed and
with his food and litter box in there until he feels
safe, for a few days or so.  Maybe a towel from your
home that smells familiar will help also.  I really
hope this works out for him, her, and you.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter
> called me today and said
> he has been crying all night every night and she
> hasn't been able to sleep
> at all.  He is fine during the day, very
> affectionate, likes to give her
> kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need
> suggestions, or else this
> adopter will return this cat.  As he's a black cat,
> he is not going to have
> too many options.  She is not petting him when he is
> crying.  He is eating
> and using the litterbox.  I don't know how to get
> this adopter past this.
> She's willing to try things for a few more days, but
> I don't think much
> longer than that.
>
> Kelley
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>






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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Pam Norman]

Kelley,

Are there any other pets in the household?

Also what do they (the woman & the kitty) do just before she turns out 
the light?  Is he with her on the bed?  Napping? Dozing?  What happens 
when she turns out the light?   When she turns off her light, at that 
point are ALL the lights in the house off?


Pam



Kelley Saveika wrote:

Nina,

he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for 
20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts 
pacing and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart.
 
She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   
He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 
hours.  That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works 
half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed 
her to sleep then.  She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 
am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week.
 
Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much 
easier.  I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do 
rescue.  Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not 
wanting to do rescue at the moment. 
 



 
On 3/18/07, *Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Kelley,
Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and
scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that
she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and
would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep,
(sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if
she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well,
she did
settle down and start to feel safe and at home.

Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or
is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if
once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's
home for
good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may
be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of
their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human
give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today
> and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't
been
> able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate,
> likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need
> suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the
litterbox.
> I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing
to try
> things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
>
> Kelley
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20





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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Leslie Lawther]

*Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that
angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats.  Even though
they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight.  Maybe she
could try some nightlights for him?  *
*Leslie =^..^=*


On 3/18/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Kelley,

Are there any other pets in the household?

Also what do they (the woman & the kitty) do just before she turns out
the light?  Is he with her on the bed?  Napping? Dozing?  What happens
when she turns out the light?   When she turns off her light, at that
point are ALL the lights in the house off?

Pam



Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Nina,
>
> he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for
> 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts
> pacing and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart.
>
> She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.
> He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2
> hours.  That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works
> half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed
> her to sleep then.  She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5
> am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week.
>
> Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much
> easier.  I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do
> rescue.  Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not
> wanting to do rescue at the moment.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/18/07, *Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> Kelley,
> Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused
and
> scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that
> she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling
out
> for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
> Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
> aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night),
and
> would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
> seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little
sleep,
> (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
> either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering
if
> she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well,
> she did
> settle down and start to feel safe and at home.
>
> Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom
or
> is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
> adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if
> once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's
> home for
> good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he
may
> be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of
> their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his
human
> give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
> Nina
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me
today
> > and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't
> been
> > able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very
affectionate,
> > likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need
> > suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> > black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> > petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the
> litterbox.
> > I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing
> to try
> > things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than
that.
> >
> > Kelley
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






--
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patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.  That
only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success.
---Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Pam Norman]

That's why I was asking.  I would go further than nightlights & try 
leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to 
what he is doing & where when she turns out the light for the night. 
Does the crying start then or later?


Pam

Leslie Lawther wrote:
*Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights 
that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats.  
Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best 
eyesight.  Maybe she could try some nightlights for him?  *

*Leslie =^..^=*

 
On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Kelley,

Are there any other pets in the household?

Also what do they (the woman & the kitty) do just before she turns
out
the light?  Is he with her on the bed?  Napping? Dozing?  What happens
when she turns out the light?   When she turns off her light, at that
point are ALL the lights in the house off?

Pam



Kelley Saveika wrote:
> Nina,
>
> he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with
her for
> 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and
starts
> pacing and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my
heart.
>
> She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.
> He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2
> hours.  That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works
> half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed
> her to sleep then.  She says this weekend she has been sleeping
from 5
> am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week.
>
> Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much
> easier.  I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do
> rescue.  Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not
> wanting to do rescue at the moment.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/18/07, *Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
>
> Kelley,
> Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is
confused and
> scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you
hinted that
> she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's
calling out
> for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about
Sophie
> Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
> aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at
night), and
> would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on
for what
> seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very
little sleep,
> (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
> either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was
wondering if
> she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well,
> she did
> settle down and start to feel safe and at home.
>
> Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his
new mom or
> is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can
get the
> adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit
to see if
> once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's
> home for
> good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more
week, he may
> be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the
rest of
> their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have
his human
> give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
> Nina
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called
me today
> > and said he has been crying all night every night and she
hasn't
> been
> > able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very
affectionate,
> > likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her
sleep.  I need
> > suggestions, or else this adopter will return this
cat.  As he's a
> > black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She
is not
> > petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the
> litterbox.
> > I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's
willing
> to try
> > things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer
than that.
> >
> > Kelley
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
>
>
>
>
   

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts
pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and
stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths.

On 3/18/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


That's why I was asking.  I would go further than nightlights & try
leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to
what he is doing & where when she turns out the light for the night.
Does the crying start then or later?

Pam

Leslie Lawther wrote:
> *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights
> that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats.
> Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best
> eyesight.  Maybe she could try some nightlights for him?  *
> *Leslie =^..^=*
>
>
> On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> Kelley,
>
> Are there any other pets in the household?
>
> Also what do they (the woman & the kitty) do just before she turns
> out
> the light?  Is he with her on the bed?  Napping? Dozing?  What
happens
> when she turns out the light?   When she turns off her light, at
that
> point are ALL the lights in the house off?
>
> Pam
>
>
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Nina,
> >
> > he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with
> her for
> > 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and
> starts
> > pacing and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my
> heart.
> >
> > She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her
point.
> > He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2
> > hours.  That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She
works
> > half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He
allowed
> > her to sleep then.  She says this weekend she has been sleeping
> from 5
> > am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week.
> >
> > Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much
> > easier.  I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do
> > rescue.  Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not
> > wanting to do rescue at the moment.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/18/07, *Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
wrote:
> >
> > Kelley,
> > Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is
> confused and
> > scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you
> hinted that
> > she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's
> calling out
> > for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about
> Sophie
> > Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
> > aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at
> night), and
> > would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on
> for what
> > seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very
> little sleep,
> > (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching
back
> > either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was
> wondering if
> > she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself
hoarse.  Well,
> > she did
> > settle down and start to feel safe and at home.
> >
> > Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his
> new mom or
> > is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can
> get the
> > adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit
> to see if
> > once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's
> > home for
> > good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more
> week, he may
> > be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the
> rest of
> > their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have
> his human
> > give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
> > Nina
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called
> me today
> > > and said he has been crying all night every night and she
> hasn't
> > been
> > > able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very
> affectionate,
> > > likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her
> sleep.  I need
> > > suggestions, or else this adopter will return this
> cat.  As he's a
> > > black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She
> is not
> > > petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the
> > litterbox.
> > > I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's
> willin

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Pam Norman]

But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on & she is still 
basically up?  When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the 
light & going to sleep, or trying to?


Pam

Kelley Saveika wrote:
He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and 
starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of 
crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths.


On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


That's why I was asking.  I would go further than nightlights & try
leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious
as to
what he is doing & where when she turns out the light for the night.
Does the crying start then or later?

Pam

Leslie Lawther wrote:
> *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night
lights
> that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats.
> Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best
> eyesight.  Maybe she could try some nightlights for him?  *
> *Leslie =^..^=*
>
>
> On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> >>
wrote:
>
> Kelley,
>
> Are there any other pets in the household?
>
> Also what do they (the woman & the kitty) do just before she
turns
> out
> the light?  Is he with her on the bed?  Napping?
Dozing?  What happens
> when she turns out the light?   When she turns off her
light, at that
> point are ALL the lights in the house off?
>
> Pam
>
>
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > Nina,
> >
> > he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with
> her for
> > 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and
> starts
> > pacing and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost
broke my
> heart.
> >
> > She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see
her point.
> > He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to
sleep for 2
> > hours.  That's not a good schedule for a working
person.  She works
> > half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting
home.  He allowed
> > her to sleep then.  She says this weekend she has been
sleeping
> from 5
> > am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week.
> >
> > Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so
much
> > easier.  I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I
can't do
> > rescue.  Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now
and not
> > wanting to do rescue at the moment.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/18/07, *Nina* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> >
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  >
> > Kelley,
> > Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is
> confused and
> > scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you
> hinted that
> > she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing
he's
> calling out
> > for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list
about
> Sophie
> > Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because
she's cat
> > aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was
worse at
> night), and
> > would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on
> for what
> > seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very
> little sleep,
> > (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my
aching back
> > either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was
> wondering if
> > she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself
hoarse.  Well,
> > she did
> > settle down and start to feel safe and at home.
> >
> > Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep
with his
> new mom or
> > is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if
you can
> get the
> > adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit
> to see if
> > once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows
that he's
> > home for
> > good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more
> week, he may
> > be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared
to the
> rest of
> > their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

I don't know.   I Have called her this morning and left a message.

On 3/18/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on & she is still
basically up?  When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the
light & going to sleep, or trying to?

Pam

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and
> starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of
> crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths.
>
> On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> That's why I was asking.  I would go further than nightlights & try
> leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious
> as to
> what he is doing & where when she turns out the light for the night.
> Does the crying start then or later?
>
> Pam
>
> Leslie Lawther wrote:
> > *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night
> lights
> > that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats.
> > Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best
> > eyesight.  Maybe she could try some nightlights for him?  *
> > *Leslie =^..^=*
> >
> >
> > On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > >>
> wrote:
> >
> > Kelley,
> >
> > Are there any other pets in the household?
> >
> > Also what do they (the woman & the kitty) do just before she
> turns
> > out
> > the light?  Is he with her on the bed?  Napping?
> Dozing?  What happens
> > when she turns out the light?   When she turns off her
> light, at that
> > point are ALL the lights in the house off?
> >
> > Pam
> >
> >
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > Nina,
> > >
> > > he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed
with
> > her for
> > > 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed
and
> > starts
> > > pacing and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost
> broke my
> > heart.
> > >
> > > She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see
> her point.
> > > He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to
> sleep for 2
> > > hours.  That's not a good schedule for a working
> person.  She works
> > > half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting
> home.  He allowed
> > > her to sleep then.  She says this weekend she has been
> sleeping
> > from 5
> > > am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week.
> > >
> > > Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so
> much
> > > easier.  I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I
> can't do
> > > rescue.  Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now
> and not
> > > wanting to do rescue at the moment.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/18/07, *Nina* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > >
> > >     > >
> > > Kelley,
> > > Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy
is
> > confused and
> > > scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you
> > hinted that
> > > she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing
> he's
> > calling out
> > > for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list
> about
> > Sophie
> > > Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because
> she's cat
> > > aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was
> worse at
> > night), and
> > > would only settle down when I was with her.  This went
on
> > for what
> > > seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very
> > little sleep,
> > > (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my
> aching back
> > > either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me
was
> > wondering if
> > > she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself
> hoarse.  Well,
> > > she did
> > > settle down and start to feel safe and at home.
> > >
> > > Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep
> with his
> > new mom or
> > > is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if
> you can
> > get the
> > > adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time
limit
> > to see if
> > >   

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[tamara stickler]

He's suffering from separation anxiety.  Even tho his person is there...when 
she sleeps...she "leaves" him.  Its not uncommon for animals who have suffered 
a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to go through 
this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it).
   
  Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)?  Spray it once a day 
(at night) around the house to give a sense of well being.
   
  She could also try a "Catnip" video...put in the tv and push play...kitty 
might be destracted.
   
  Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to new 
surroundings.

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I don't know.   I Have called her this morning and left a message.

  On 3/18/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   But does he lie in bed 
with her while the light is on & she is still
basically up?  When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the 
light & going to sleep, or trying to?

Pam

Kelley Saveika wrote:
> He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and
> starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of 
> crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths.
>
> On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> That's why I was asking.  I would go further than nightlights & try
> leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious
> as to
> what he is doing & where when she turns out the light for the night.
> Does the crying start then or later?
>
> Pam
>
> Leslie Lawther wrote:
> > *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night 
> lights
> > that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats.
> > Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best
> > eyesight.  Maybe she could try some nightlights for him?  * 
> > *Leslie =^..^=*
> >
> >
> > On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > >>
> wrote: 
> >
> > Kelley,
> >
> > Are there any other pets in the household?
> >
> > Also what do they (the woman & the kitty) do just before she 
> turns
> > out
> > the light?  Is he with her on the bed?  Napping?
> Dozing?  What happens
> > when she turns out the light?   When she turns off her 
> light, at that
> > point are ALL the lights in the house off?
> >
> > Pam
> >
> >
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote: 
> > > Nina,
> > >
> > > he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with
> > her for
> > > 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and 
> > starts
> > > pacing and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost
> broke my
> > heart.
> > >
> > > She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see 
> her point.
> > > He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to
> sleep for 2
> > > hours.  That's not a good schedule for a working
> person.  She works 
> > > half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting
> home.  He allowed
> > > her to sleep then.  She says this weekend she has been
> sleeping
> > from 5 
> > > am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week.
> > >
> > > Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so
> much
> > > easier.  I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I 
> can't do
> > > rescue.  Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now
> and not
> > > wanting to do rescue at the moment.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/18/07, *Nina* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > >
> > >     > >
> > > Kelley,
> > > Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is 
> > confused and
> > > scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you
> > hinted that
> > > she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing 
> he's
> > calling out
> > > for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list
> about
> > Sophie
> > > Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because 
> she's cat
> > > aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was
> worse at
> > night), and
> > > would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on 
> > for what
> > > seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very
> > little sleep,
> > > (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my 
> aching b

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

She is going to buy Feliway.  I also found a local source of Rescue Remedy.
She is not willing to medicate him.  I guess I can understand that (well,
not really, I have all kinds of cats on all kinds of meds) but it isn't a
physical problem, and I guess some people do not believe in medicating cats
to solve emotional problems.

On 3/19/07, tamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


He's suffering from separation anxiety.  Even tho his person is
there...when she sleeps...she "leaves" him.  Its not uncommon for animals
who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to
go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it).

Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)?  Spray it once a
day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being.

She could also try a "Catnip" video...put in the tv and push play...kitty
might be destracted.

Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to
new surroundings.

*Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

I don't know.   I Have called her this morning and left a message.

On 3/18/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on & she is still
> basically up?  When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the
>
> light & going to sleep, or trying to?
>
> Pam
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and
> > starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of
> > crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths.
> >
> > On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > That's why I was asking.  I would go further than nightlights &
> try
> > leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious
> > as to
> > what he is doing & where when she turns out the light for the
> night.
> > Does the crying start then or later?
> >
> > Pam
> >
> > Leslie Lawther wrote:
> > > *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night
> > lights
> > > that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the
> cats.
> > > Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best
> > > eyesight.  Maybe she could try some nightlights for him?  *
> > > *Leslie =^..^=*
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > > >>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kelley,
> > >
> > > Are there any other pets in the household?
> > >
> > > Also what do they (the woman & the kitty) do just before she
>
> > turns
> > > out
> > > the light?  Is he with her on the bed?  Napping?
> > Dozing?  What happens
> > > when she turns out the light?   When she turns off her
> > light, at that
> > > point are ALL the lights in the house off?
> > >
> > > Pam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > > Nina,
> > > >
> > > > he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed
> with
> > > her for
> > > > 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed
> and
> > > starts
> > > > pacing and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost
> > broke my
> > > heart.
> > > >
> > > > She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see
> > her point.
> > > > He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to
> > sleep for 2
> > > > hours.  That's not a good schedule for a working
> > person.  She works
> > > > half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting
> > home.  He allowed
> > > > her to sleep then.  She says this weekend she has been
> > sleeping
> > > from 5
> > > > am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week.
> > > >
> > > > Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so
> > much
> > > > easier.  I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I
> > can't do
> > > > rescue.  Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now
> > and not
> > > > wanting to do rescue at the moment.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/18/07, *Nina* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > > >
> > > >  >   >  > > >
> > > > Kelley,
> > > > Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy
> is
> > > confused and
> > > > scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and
> you
> > > hinted that
> > > > she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing
> > he's
> > > calling out
> > >  

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

She has not called me back.  I have no idea what that means.  Maybe he is
fine now.  Maybe it was so bad she had to call in sick to work and she'll be
on my doorstep when I get home.

On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


She is going to buy Feliway.  I also found a local source of Rescue
Remedy.  She is not willing to medicate him.  I guess I can understand that
(well, not really, I have all kinds of cats on all kinds of meds) but it
isn't a physical problem, and I guess some people do not believe in
medicating cats to solve emotional problems.

On 3/19/07, tamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> He's suffering from separation anxiety.  Even tho his person is
> there...when she sleeps...she "leaves" him.  Its not uncommon for animals
> who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to
> go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it).
>
>
> Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)?  Spray it once a
> day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being.
>
> She could also try a "Catnip" video...put in the tv and push
> play...kitty might be destracted.
>
> Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to
> new surroundings.
>
> *Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> I don't know.   I Have called her this morning and left a message.
>
> On 3/18/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on & she is still
> > basically up?  When does he start pacing relative to her turning off
> > the
> > light & going to sleep, or trying to?
> >
> > Pam
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and
> > > starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired
> > of
> > > crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths.
> > >
> > > On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > That's why I was asking.  I would go further than nightlights &
> > try
> > > leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still
> > curious
> > > as to
> > > what he is doing & where when she turns out the light for the
> > night.
> > > Does the crying start then or later?
> > >
> > > Pam
> > >
> > > Leslie Lawther wrote:
> > > > *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting
> > (night
> > > lights
> > > > that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the
> > cats.
> > > > Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best
> > > > eyesight.  Maybe she could try some nightlights for him?  *
> > > > *Leslie =^..^=*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > >  >>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kelley,
> > > >
> > > > Are there any other pets in the household?
> > > >
> > > > Also what do they (the woman & the kitty) do just before
> > she
> > > turns
> > > > out
> > > > the light?  Is he with her on the bed?  Napping?
> > > Dozing?  What happens
> > > > when she turns out the light?   When she turns off her
> > > light, at that
> > > > point are ALL the lights in the house off?
> > > >
> > > > Pam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > > > Nina,
> > > > >
> > > > > he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in
> > bed with
> > > > her for
> > > > > 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of
> > bed and
> > > > starts
> > > > > pacing and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost
> > > broke my
> > > > heart.
> > > > >
> > > > > She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see
> >
> > > her point.
> > > > > He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to
> > > sleep for 2
> > > > > hours.  That's not a good schedule for a working
> > > person.  She works
> > > > > half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting
> > > home.  He allowed
> > > > > her to sleep then.  She says this weekend she has been
> > > sleeping
> > > > from 5
> > > > > am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week.
> > > > >
> > > > > Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be
> > so
> > > much
> > > > > easier.  I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I
> > > can't do
> > > > > rescue.  Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now
> > > and not
> > > > > wanting to do rescue at the moment.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/18/07, *Nina* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > > > >  > > 

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

I finally called her back again.  She says he did better last night.  She is
going to give him until the end of the week and see how he does.



On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


She has not called me back.  I have no idea what that means.  Maybe he is
fine now.  Maybe it was so bad she had to call in sick to work and she'll be
on my doorstep when I get home.

On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> She is going to buy Feliway.  I also found a local source of Rescue
> Remedy.  She is not willing to medicate him.  I guess I can understand that
> (well, not really, I have all kinds of cats on all kinds of meds) but it
> isn't a physical problem, and I guess some people do not believe in
> medicating cats to solve emotional problems.
>
> On 3/19/07, tamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > He's suffering from separation anxiety.  Even tho his person is
> > there...when she sleeps...she "leaves" him.  Its not uncommon for animals
> > who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to
> > go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it).
> >
> >
> > Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)?  Spray it once
> > a day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being.
> >
> > She could also try a "Catnip" video...put in the tv and push
> > play...kitty might be destracted.
> >
> > Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used
> > to new surroundings.
> >
> > *Kelley Saveika < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> > I don't know.   I Have called her this morning and left a message.
> >
> > On 3/18/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on & she is still
> > > basically up?  When does he start pacing relative to her turning off
> > > the
> > > light & going to sleep, or trying to?
> > >
> > > Pam
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > > He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored
> > > and
> > > > starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired
> > > of
> > > > crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths.
> > > >
> > > > On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's why I was asking.  I would go further than nightlights
> > > & try
> > > > leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still
> > > curious
> > > > as to
> > > > what he is doing & where when she turns out the light for the
> > > night.
> > > > Does the crying start then or later?
> > > >
> > > > Pam
> > > >
> > > > Leslie Lawther wrote:
> > > > > *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting
> > > (night
> > > > lights
> > > > > that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the
> > > cats.
> > > > > Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the
> > > best
> > > > > eyesight.  Maybe she could try some nightlights for him?  *
> > > > > *Leslie =^..^=*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 
> > > > >  > > >>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kelley,
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any other pets in the household?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also what do they (the woman & the kitty) do just before
> > > she
> > > > turns
> > > > > out
> > > > > the light?  Is he with her on the bed?  Napping?
> > > > Dozing?  What happens
> > > > > when she turns out the light?   When she turns off her
> > > > light, at that
> > > > > point are ALL the lights in the house off?
> > > > >
> > > > > Pam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > > > > Nina,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in
> > > bed with
> > > > > her for
> > > > > > 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of
> > > bed and
> > > > > starts
> > > > > > pacing and crying and does that until 5 am..  It
> > > almost
> > > > broke my
> > > > > heart.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I
> > > see
> > > > her point.
> > > > > > He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to
> > > > sleep for 2
> > > > > > hours.  That's not a good schedule for a working
> > > > person.  She works
> > > > > > half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting
> > > > home.  He allowed
> > > > > > her to sleep then.  She says this weekend she has been
> > > > sleeping
> > > > > from 5
> > > > > > am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would
> > > be so
> > > >

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[TenHouseCats]

i think maybe someone needs to point out that two to three WEEKS is not an
abnormal adjustment period for ANY cat, in ANY home

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

I think she is likely to give him the time she needs as long as she can
sleep at least a little.

And I am grumpy as heck when I get no sleep.  I stayed with some friends of
mine years and years and years ago who had a newborn.  I think that is when
I decided I didn't want children.  Oh my LORD>


On 3/19/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


i think maybe someone needs to point out that two to three WEEKS is not an
abnormal adjustment period for ANY cat, in ANY home

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[TenHouseCats]

if she has to, for her own health and safety, she can always get earplugs
and shut him out of her room til he gets the message. not the best
option, perhaps, but sleep-deprivation isn't a good way to begin a
relationship, either.



On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I think she is likely to give him the time she needs as long as she can
sleep at least a little.

And I am grumpy as heck when I get no sleep.  I stayed with some friends
of mine years and years and years ago who had a newborn.  I think that is
when I decided I didn't want children.  Oh my LORD>


On 3/19/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i think maybe someone needs to point out that two to three WEEKS is not
> an abnormal adjustment period for ANY cat, in ANY home
>
> --
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>
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>
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> ICQ: 289856892
>



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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Pam Norman]

I would still want her to leave a light on somewhere near her bedroom.  
Bathroom maybe, or even another bedroom.


Pam

TenHouseCats wrote:
if she has to, for her own health and safety, she can always get 
earplugs and shut him out of her room til he gets the message. not 
the best option, perhaps, but sleep-deprivation isn't a good way to 
begin a relationship, either.




On 3/19/07, *Kelley Saveika* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


I think she is likely to give him the time she needs as long as
she can sleep at least a little.
 
And I am grumpy as heck when I get no sleep.  I stayed with some
friends of mine years and years and years ago who had a newborn. 
I think that is when I decided I didn't want children.  Oh my LORD>


 
On 3/19/07, *TenHouseCats* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> wrote:

i think maybe someone needs to point out that two to three
WEEKS is not an abnormal adjustment period for ANY cat, in ANY
home


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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Some people are just not good adopters. Anyone who adopts a new
cat,completely uproots it's routine, puts it in a new and unknown
environment, and takes it away from all it's known for the past however many
months it was with you, and then EXPECTS it to NOT cry at night isn't a good
adopter, IMO. Try finding a an adopter with a bit of a HEART and who might
actually CARE about the CAT'S feelings!

Geez... some people!

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Now that I have read more of the topics... Whitey did this his first week
here... when I had him quarantined in the bathroom. As soon as he was able
to come into our room at night, he was happy. Of course, since then, we've
discovered he's a toe attacker, so he's now been booted out at night... it
hurts to wake up with bloody toes in the middle of the night! I think the
nighttime howling is a fairly common thing for cats that are totally in a
new place, it is their way of comforting themselves, I suppose. I realize
that sleep is essential, but I'm still of the opinion that it's not nice to
want to surrender the cat just because of the lack of sleep. God forbid this
person ever became a parent of a HUMAN baby, LOL! She'd kill herself, LOL!

Phaewryn

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

earplugs.. LOLOLOL! MC, you are so smart... and good at pointing out the
obvious when no-one else sees it, LOL! I missed you while I was gone!

Phaewryn

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[TenHouseCats]

yeah, that's me--keen powers of the obvious

seriously tho, i've always suspected that crying behavior in a new
environment is sort of like a sonar-thing, too the cat is trying to
locate themselves in time and space, and listening to hear where he is by
how his own voice bounces back defining their new boundaries, maybe?

and it makes sense in terms of older cats who get "lost" in their own houses
and cry and cry, too. (well, it makes sense to me.)



On 3/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 earplugs.. LOLOLOL! MC, you are so smart... and good at pointing out the
obvious when no-one else sees it, LOL! I missed you while I was gone!

Phaewryn

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I must somehow record Tigger at bath time, you've never heard a noise like
he makes, LOL! Sonar indeed! Personally, I think it's kitty voo-doo, he's
casting some terrible spell that will render me harmless and save him from
the terrors of the sink!

Phaewryn

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[TenHouseCats]

well, it hasn't worked yet, so he'll need to try a lot harder!
fleaing

On 3/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 I must somehow record Tigger at bath time, you've never heard a noise
like he makes, LOL! Sonar indeed! Personally, I think it's kitty voo-doo,
he's casting some terrible spell that will render me harmless and save him
from the terrors of the sink!

Phaewryn

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[catatonya]

maybe give her a t-shirt with your scent on it, or a towel or something with 
your other cats' scents?
  t

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nina,
  
he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 
minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and 
crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart. 
   
  She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   He 
apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.  That's 
not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day on Friday and 
took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.  She says this 
weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during 
the week. 
   
  Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much easier.  I 
can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I am 
frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. 
 
   
  

 
  On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Kelley,
Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and
scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that 
she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat 
aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and
would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep,
(sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if
she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she did
settle down and start to feel safe and at home. 

Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or
is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if 
once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for
good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may
be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of 
their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human
give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today 
> and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been
> able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate,
> likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need 
> suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the litterbox. 
> I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to try
> things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
>
> Kelley
>
>
> --
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>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

I think he is coming back.  She emailed me a few days ago and told me she
didn't think she was cut out to be a good kitty owner.  She's not home
enough and "is too concerned about the condition of her house."  So she will
bring him back to me and he and I will try again:)

On 3/25/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


maybe give her a t-shirt with your scent on it, or a towel or something
with your other cats' scents?
t

*Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

Nina,

he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for
20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing
and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart.

She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   He
apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.
That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day on
Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.
She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she
cant' do that during the week.

Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much easier.  I
can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I am
frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the
moment.




On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kelley,
> Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and
> scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that
> she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
> for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
> Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
> aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and
> would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
> seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep,
> (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
> either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if
> she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she did
> settle down and start to feel safe and at home.
>
> Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or
> is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
> adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if
> once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for
> good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may
> be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of
> their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human
> give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
> Nina
>
> Kelley Saveika wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today
> > and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been
> > able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate,
> > likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need
> > suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> > black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> > petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the litterbox.
> > I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to try
> > things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
> >
> > Kelley
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
>
>


--
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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Susan Hoffman]

"Condition of her house"?  Definitely get the cat back.  Hope she never has a 
child, or a husband or live-in boyfriend, or a houseguest who stays more than 
two days.  (If I was concerned about the condition of my house, I wouldn't let 
myself live in it.  Just rope everything off and look at it from afar.)

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I think he is coming back.  She 
emailed me a few days ago and told me she didn't think she was cut out to be a 
good kitty owner.  She's not home enough and "is too concerned about the 
condition of her house."  So she will bring him back to me and he and I will 
try again:) 

  On 3/25/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: maybe give her a t-shirt 
with your scent on it, or a towel or something with your other cats' scents?
  t   

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Nina,
  
he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 
minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and 
crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart. 
   
  She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   He 
apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.  That's 
not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day on Friday and 
took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.  She says this 
weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during 
the week. 
   
  Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much easier.  I 
can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I am 
frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. 
 
   
  

 
  On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Kelley,
Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and
scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that 
she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat 
aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and
would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep,
(sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if
she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she did
settle down and start to feel safe and at home. 

Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or
is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if 
once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for
good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may
be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of 
their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human
give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today 
> and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been
> able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate,
> likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need 
> suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the litterbox. 
> I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to try
> things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
>
> Kelley
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! 
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org 

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! 

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 





-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia 

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[TenHouseCats]

i would MUCH rather have an adopter who recognized her limitations,
early on, and returned the cat that to NOT do so, and have the cat
stuck there, unloved and resented.

i gather this is a young woman, and this was her first critter on her
own--next time she'll have a much better idea of what's involved, and
be better able to decide whether she's cut out to be a cat parent. at
least obsidian will be returned to a safe place, and not tossed out
onto the street or into a kill shelter.

MC

On 3/25/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Condition of her house"?  Definitely get the cat back.  Hope she never has
a child, or a husband or live-in boyfriend, or a houseguest who stays more
than two days.  (If I was concerned about the condition of my house, I
wouldn't let myself live in it.  Just rope everything off and look at it
from afar.)


Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think he is coming back.  She emailed me a few days ago and told me she
didn't think she was cut out to be a good kitty owner.  She's not home
enough and "is too concerned about the condition of her house."  So she will
bring him back to me and he and I will try again:)


On 3/25/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> maybe give her a t-shirt with your scent on it, or a towel or something
with your other cats' scents?
> t
>
>
> Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Nina,
>
> he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for
20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing
and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart.
>
> She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   He
apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.
That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day on
Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.
She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she
cant' do that during the week.
>
> Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much easier.  I
can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I am
frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the
moment.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kelley,
> > Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and
> > scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that
> > she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
> > for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
> > Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
> > aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and
> > would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
> > seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep,
> > (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
> > either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if
> > she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she did
> > settle down and start to feel safe and at home.
> >
> > Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or
> > is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
> > adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if
> > once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for
> > good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may
> > be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of
> > their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human
> > give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
> > Nina
> >
> > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today
> > > and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been
> > > able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate,
> > > likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need
> > > suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> > > black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> > > petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the litterbox.
> > > I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to try
> > > things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
> > >
> > > Kelley
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> > >
> > > http://www.rescuties.org
> > >
> > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> > >
> > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>



--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

V

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

I don't think it has been a terrible experience.  We have learned something
about Obsidian - he dislikes covered litter boxes and would probably be
better placed with a kitty friend.  It was a week and a half, so should be
no more traumatic than being boarded.

The adopter has learned something about herself - and yes, she is a young
woman.  She did have an elderly ferret previously who died after a long
illness.  I've never had a ferret - perhaps they are less messy - I
certainly think they are smellier, cute though they are.


On 3/25/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


i would MUCH rather have an adopter who recognized her limitations,
early on, and returned the cat that to NOT do so, and have the cat
stuck there, unloved and resented.

i gather this is a young woman, and this was her first critter on her
own--next time she'll have a much better idea of what's involved, and
be better able to decide whether she's cut out to be a cat parent. at
least obsidian will be returned to a safe place, and not tossed out
onto the street or into a kill shelter.

MC

On 3/25/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Condition of her house"?  Definitely get the cat back.  Hope she never
has
> a child, or a husband or live-in boyfriend, or a houseguest who stays
more
> than two days.  (If I was concerned about the condition of my house, I
> wouldn't let myself live in it.  Just rope everything off and look at it
> from afar.)
>
>
> Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think he is coming back.  She emailed me a few days ago and told me
she
> didn't think she was cut out to be a good kitty owner.  She's not home
> enough and "is too concerned about the condition of her house."  So she
will
> bring him back to me and he and I will try again:)
>
>
> On 3/25/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > maybe give her a t-shirt with your scent on it, or a towel or
something
> with your other cats' scents?
> > t
> >
> >
> > Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Nina,
> >
> > he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for
> 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts
pacing
> and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart.
> >
> > She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.
He
> apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.
> That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day
on
> Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.
> She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she
> cant' do that during the week.
> >
> > Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much
easier.  I
> can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I
am
> frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the
> moment.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Kelley,
> > > Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused
and
> > > scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that
> > > she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling
out
> > > for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
> > > Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
> > > aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night),
and
> > > would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
> > > seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little
sleep,
> > > (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
> > > either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering
if
> > > she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she
did
> > > settle down and start to feel safe and at home.
> > >
> > > Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom
or
> > > is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
> > > adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if
> > > once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home
for
> > > good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he
may
> > > be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of
> > > their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his
human
> > > give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
> > > Nina
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me
today
> > > > and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't
been
> > > > able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very
affectionate,
> > > > likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need
> > > > suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> > > > black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> > > > p

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[TenHouseCats]

that's right, i'd forgotten about the ferret she'd lost--part of her
grieving process could have been thinking that a nice, simple kitty
would help, and obsidian had other ideas!



On 3/25/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't think it has been a terrible experience.  We have learned something
about Obsidian - he dislikes covered litter boxes and would probably be
better placed with a kitty friend.  It was a week and a half, so should be
no more traumatic than being boarded.

The adopter has learned something about herself - and yes, she is a young
woman.  She did have an elderly ferret previously who died after a long
illness.  I've never had a ferret - perhaps they are less messy - I
certainly think they are smellier, cute though they are.



On 3/25/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i would MUCH rather have an adopter who recognized her limitations,
> early on, and returned the cat that to NOT do so, and have the cat
> stuck there, unloved and resented.
>
> i gather this is a young woman, and this was her first critter on her
> own--next time she'll have a much better idea of what's involved, and
> be better able to decide whether she's cut out to be a cat parent. at
> least obsidian will be returned to a safe place, and not tossed out
> onto the street or into a kill shelter.
>
> MC
>
> On 3/25/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > "Condition of her house"?  Definitely get the cat back.  Hope she never
has
> > a child, or a husband or live-in boyfriend, or a houseguest who stays
more
> > than two days.  (If I was concerned about the condition of my house, I
> > wouldn't let myself live in it.  Just rope everything off and look at it
> > from afar.)
> >
> >
> > Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think he is coming back.  She emailed me a few days ago and told me
she
> > didn't think she was cut out to be a good kitty owner.  She's not home
> > enough and "is too concerned about the condition of her house."  So she
will
> > bring him back to me and he and I will try again:)
> >
> >
> > On 3/25/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > maybe give her a t-shirt with your scent on it, or a towel or
something
> > with your other cats' scents?
> > > t
> > >
> > >
> > > Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Nina,
> > >
> > > he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for
> > 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts
pacing
> > and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart.
> > >
> > > She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.
He
> > apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.
> > That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day
on
> > Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.
> > She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she
> > cant' do that during the week.
> > >
> > > Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much
easier.  I
> > can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I
am
> > frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the
> > moment.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Kelley,
> > > > Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused
and
> > > > scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that
> > > > she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling
out
> > > > for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
> > > > Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
> > > > aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night),
and
> > > > would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
> > > > seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little
sleep,
> > > > (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
> > > > either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering
if
> > > > she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she
did
> > > > settle down and start to feel safe and at home.
> > > >
> > > > Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom
or
> > > > is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
> > > > adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if
> > > > once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home
for
> > > > good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he
may
> > > > be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of
> > > > their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his
human
> > > > give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
> > > > Nina
> > > >
> > > > Kelley Saveika wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

oh yeah... for sure! "Too concerned for the condition of her house" sounds
really bad. Perhaps you would like to consider using my home visit form and
doing pre-adoptive home visits? I have found that I can completely eliminate
those types of adopters by a good home visit with lots of questions (it
takes about 45 minutes to complete it when done right). I'd be happy to send
you a copy of the form if you want it.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

MC is right of course, we should give the shallow woman some credit, at least 
she is
responsibly returning the cat to the rescue and not just tossing him out on the
street or dumping him at a kill shelter.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Marylyn]

I have never had a cat that liked a covered box or scented litter.  Mine also 
use the 18 gallon or larger Rubbermaid (or knock off) boxes to give them more 
kicking/scratching room.  Obsidian may have the same preferences.  I wish him 
all the best luck in finding a new home--a forever home this time.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelley Saveika 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.


  I don't think it has been a terrible experience.  We have learned something 
about Obsidian - he dislikes covered litter boxes and would probably be better 
placed with a kitty friend.  It was a week and a half, so should be no more 
traumatic than being boarded. 

  The adopter has learned something about herself - and yes, she is a young 
woman.  She did have an elderly ferret previously who died after a long 
illness.  I've never had a ferret - perhaps they are less messy - I certainly 
think they are smellier, cute though they are. 

   
  On 3/25/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
i would MUCH rather have an adopter who recognized her limitations,
early on, and returned the cat that to NOT do so, and have the cat 
stuck there, unloved and resented.

i gather this is a young woman, and this was her first critter on her
own--next time she'll have a much better idea of what's involved, and
be better able to decide whether she's cut out to be a cat parent. at 
least obsidian will be returned to a safe place, and not tossed out
onto the street or into a kill shelter.

MC

On 3/25/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> "Condition of her house"?  Definitely get the cat back.  Hope she never 
has
> a child, or a husband or live-in boyfriend, or a houseguest who stays more
> than two days.  (If I was concerned about the condition of my house, I 
> wouldn't let myself live in it.  Just rope everything off and look at it
> from afar.)
>
>
> Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think he is coming back.  She emailed me a few days ago and told me she
> didn't think she was cut out to be a good kitty owner.  She's not home
> enough and "is too concerned about the condition of her house."  So she 
will 
> bring him back to me and he and I will try again:)
>
>
> On 3/25/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > maybe give her a t-shirt with your scent on it, or a towel or something 
> with your other cats' scents?
> > t
> >
> >
> > Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Nina, 
> >
> > he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for
> 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts 
pacing
> and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart. 
> >
> > She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   He
> apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.
> That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day on 
> Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.
> She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she
> cant' do that during the week.
> >
> > Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much easier. 
 I
> can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I am
> frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the 
> moment.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Kelley,
> > > Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused 
and 
> > > scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that
> > > she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
> > > for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie 
> > > Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat
> > > aggressive.  She cried day and night, 

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[TenHouseCats]

don't forget, too, that too many people buy the "cats are neat and
tidy" public-relations campaign line.. they may be neat and tidy
in their own personal hygiene, but can wreak total havoc on the
human's surroundings. as most of us have learned to our chagrin
and amazement. (who knew a cat could get UP that high, with no
climbing points)



On 3/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



oh yeah... for sure! "Too concerned for the condition of her house" sounds
really bad. Perhaps you would like to consider using my home visit form and
doing pre-adoptive home visits? I have found that I can completely eliminate
those types of adopters by a good home visit with lots of questions (it
takes about 45 minutes to complete it when done right). I'd be happy to send
you a copy of the form if you want it.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

Thanks, but I'm trying to get away from home visits altogether, although I
generally end up doing one informally anyway - I took Sapphire over to his
new mom's house for a "trial visit" to make sure he didn't freak out around
the kid or the (cat-friendly) dogs.

I'm practicing, as well as I can with the restrictions that are placed upon
me by the local animal control, what are known as "open adoptions."

More info about open adoptions can be found here:

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ih_pro_adoption

http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=860&g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d

http://petsmartcharitiesblog.org/webinars/?q=node/85

Thanks so much for the offer though!




On 3/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 oh yeah... for sure! "Too concerned for the condition of her house"
sounds really bad. Perhaps you would like to consider using my home visit
form and doing pre-adoptive home visits? I have found that I can completely
eliminate those types of adopters by a good home visit with lots of
questions (it takes about 45 minutes to complete it when done right). I'd be
happy to send you a copy of the form if you want it.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources





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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

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Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Humm.. well, that's one option. Good luck (I will pray for your cats). I'm
sure you will have much higher adoption numbers than I do.



Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Kelley Saveika]

No need to pray for them, they assure me they are much happier this way than
they would be being killed.

You know I always liked this list because it was a place to share freely
without being attacked.I value that and I'd hope it would continue.

On 3/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Humm.. well, that's one option. Good luck (I will pray for your cats).
I'm sure you will have much higher adoption numbers than I do.



Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources





--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Beth Noren]

Hi Kelley,
I was surprised at how forgiving and positive you sounded when this adoption
didn't work out.  I just read your link to the Boulder Humane Society's open
adoption program and now
I understand.  What a great approach!  I know of many pet-worthy people in
our area who
have really been turned off by one of the local shelters.  Wonder if it
would do any good
if I forwarded this link to them?  H...

All the best,
Beth & Blue, Scooter, Dash, Moxie, Will Feral, and Max the parrot




On 3/25/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks, but I'm trying to get away from home visits altogether, although I
generally end up doing one informally anyway - I took Sapphire over to his
new mom's house for a "trial visit" to make sure he didn't freak out around
the kid or the (cat-friendly) dogs.

I'm practicing, as well as I can with the restrictions that are placed
upon me by the local animal control, what are known as "open adoptions."

More info about open adoptions can be found here:

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ih_pro_adoption


http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=860&g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d

http://petsmartcharitiesblog.org/webinars/?q=node/85

Thanks so much for the offer though!




On 3/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  oh yeah... for sure! "Too concerned for the condition of her house"
> sounds really bad. Perhaps you would like to consider using my home visit
> form and doing pre-adoptive home visits? I have found that I can completely
> eliminate those types of adopters by a good home visit with lots of
> questions (it takes about 45 minutes to complete it when done right). I'd be
> happy to send you a copy of the form if you want it.
>
> Phaewryn
>
> http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
> Special Needs Cat Resources
>



--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Joey!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[Del H. Daniels]

Susan, you just gave me a good laugh this morning when you wrote  >>(If I was 
concerned about the condition of my house, I wouldn't let myself live in it. << 
 
Same here :) 
Del


  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan Hoffman 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:16 AM
  Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.


  "Condition of her house"?  Definitely get the cat back.  Hope she never has a 
child, or a husband or live-in boyfriend, or a houseguest who stays more than 
two days.  (If I was concerned about the condition of my house, I wouldn't let 
myself live in it.  Just rope everything off and look at it from afar.)

  Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
I think he is coming back.  She emailed me a few days ago and told me she 
didn't think she was cut out to be a good kitty owner.  She's not home enough 
and "is too concerned about the condition of her house."  So she will bring him 
back to me and he and I will try again:) 


On 3/25/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  maybe give her a t-shirt with your scent on it, or a towel or something 
with your other cats' scents?
  t 


  Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nina,

he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for 
20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing 
and crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart. 

She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   
He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.  
That's not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day on 
Friday and took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.  She 
says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do 
that during the week. 

Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much easier. 
 I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I am 
frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. 
 



 
On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  Kelley,
  Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and
  scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that 
  she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
  for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
  Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat 
  aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and
  would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
  seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep,
  (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
  either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if
  she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she 
did
  settle down and start to feel safe and at home. 

  Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or
  is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
  adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if 
  once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home 
for
  good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may
  be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of 
  their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human
  give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
  Nina

  Kelley Saveika wrote:
  >
  > Hi all,
  >
  > I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today 
  > and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't 
been
  > able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate,
  > likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need 
  > suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
  > black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
  > petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the 
litterbox. 
  > I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to 
try
  > things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
  >
  > Kelley
  >
  >
  > --
  > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
  >
  > http://

Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.

[tamara stickler]

HAHAHAHHAA!

"Del H. Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Susan, you just gave me a 
good laugh this morning when you wrote  >>(If I was concerned about the 
condition of my house, I wouldn't let myself live in it. <<  
  Same here :) 
  Del
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Susan Hoffman 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:16 AM
  Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
  

"Condition of her house"?  Definitely get the cat back.  Hope she never has a 
child, or a husband or live-in boyfriend, or a houseguest who stays more than 
two days.  (If I was concerned about the condition of my house, I wouldn't let 
myself live in it.  Just rope everything off and look at it from afar.)

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I think he is coming back.  She 
emailed me a few days ago and told me she didn't think she was cut out to be a 
good kitty owner.  She's not home enough and "is too concerned about the 
condition of her house."  So she will bring him back to me and he and I will 
try again:) 

  On 3/25/07, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: maybe give her a t-shirt 
with your scent on it, or a towel or something with your other cats' scents?
  t   

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Nina,
  
he can sleep whereever he wants.  She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 
minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and 
crying and does that until 5 am..  It almost broke my heart. 
   
  She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point.   He 
apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours.  That's 
not a good schedule for a working person.  She works half a day on Friday and 
took a nap after getting home.  He allowed her to sleep then.  She says this 
weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during 
the week. 
   
  Everyone isn't us, Nina.  I wish they were, it would be so much easier.  I 
can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue.  Though I am 
frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. 
 
   
  

 
  On 3/18/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Kelley,
Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and
scared.  Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that 
she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out
for reassurance.  Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie
Matilda?  I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat 
aggressive.  She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and
would only settle down when I was with her.  This went on for what
seemed like years, but was really only days.  I got very little sleep,
(sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back
either).  The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if
she would ever stop.  She actually cried herself hoarse.  Well, she did
settle down and start to feel safe and at home. 

Give us more details.  Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or
is she locking him out of her room at night?  See if you can get the
adopter to give him more time.  You know, set a time limit to see if 
once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for
good he'll stop crying.  If she'll give him just one more week, he may
be just fine.  What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of 
their lives together?  Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human
give him this consideration, I hope that she does.
Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I adopted out a cat on Thursday night.  The adopter called me today 
> and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been
> able to sleep at all.  He is fine during the day, very affectionate,
> likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep.  I need 
> suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat.  As he's a
> black cat, he is not going to have too many options.  She is not
> petting him when he is crying.  He is eating and using the litterbox. 
> I don't know how to get this adopter past this.  She's willing to try
> things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that.
>
> Kelley
>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! 
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20






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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! 

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