Re: o/t FIV
Come over to the FIV group at http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIVCats2/?yguid=11572739 Even if she is FIV+ it is likely she will live to be an old lady of a cat and never show any symptoms at all. But the notation you mention doesn't make any sense to me. MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was shocked last night, going thru old papers, to see a comment written on Momcat's notes in 2003, made by the vet who tested all six of my ferals for FeLV and FIV. The chart said that Momcat had (alone of the six) tested negative for FELV/FIV but the asterisked comment said that she POSSIBLY was FIV POSITIVE. I think that the news that the other 5 had tested FeLV positive must have put this possibly FIV positive comment right out of my head. Anyway, now my Q is: how can a cat test FIV neg but possibly be positive in reality. What symptoms might she show now, 3 years on? Can you guys recommend a website in case she is positive. (Because she's feral, it will probably be a couple of weeks before I can catch/have her tested.) Thanks Kerry M. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: o/t FIV
That doesn't make any sense to me Kerry. How can she test neg, but still possibly be pos?? What vet was this that made that notation? You could call the office and ask to fax the report. Even if the vet doesn't remember the specific case, they should be able to tell you what the heck he might have meant by that. That said, I wouldn't worry one little bit about the possibility of Momcat having fiv. I certainly wouldn't put her through the great cat round up just to have her retested. Did you read all those comforting posts about my Star when he tested pos for fiv? Seriously, if she has been acting and feeling healthy all this time, I'd suggest you put those reports back in the file and not worry about it. Having the thought in the back of your mind, (where it belongs in mho), will serve to keep you vigilant to her health concerns, that's not a bad thing. I know you already do that anyway. Didn't you just bring her in for testing in preparation for her possible relocation to the UK? I would think that one of the tests that would be run, would be for fiv. Go take a look at the latest reports, or call the vet you just brought her to. Nina MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: I was shocked last night, going thru old papers, to see a comment written on Momcat's notes in 2003, made by the vet who tested all six of my ferals for FeLV and FIV. The chart said that Momcat had (alone of the six) tested negative for FELV/FIV but the asterisked comment said that she POSSIBLY was *FIV* POSITIVE. I think that the news that the other 5 had tested FeLV positive must have put this possibly FIV positive comment right out of my head. Anyway, now my Q is: how can a cat test FIV neg but possibly be positive in reality. What symptoms might she show now, 3 years on? Can you guys recommend a website in case she is positive. (Because she's feral, it will probably be a couple of weeks before I can catch/have her tested.) Thanks Kerry M. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: o/t FIV
If it's the Elisa test, they base on on eyeballing the little circle that appears. If they think they see a faint coloration, might still call it FIV-Neg, but it's maybe really a faint positive. So it can be rather subjective.. Gloria - Original Message - From: Susan Hoffman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:39 PM Subject: Re: o/t FIV Come over to the FIV group at http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIVCats2/?yguid=11572739 Even if she is FIV+ it is likely she will live to be an old lady of a cat and never show any symptoms at all. But the notation you mention doesn't make any sense to me. MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was shocked last night, going thru old papers, to see a comment written on Momcat's notes in 2003, made by the vet who tested all six of my ferals for FeLV and FIV. The chart said that Momcat had (alone of the six) tested negative for FELV/FIV but the asterisked comment said that she POSSIBLY was FIV POSITIVE. I think that the news that the other 5 had tested FeLV positive must have put this possibly FIV positive comment right out of my head. Anyway, now my Q is: how can a cat test FIV neg but possibly be positive in reality. What symptoms might she show now, 3 years on? Can you guys recommend a website in case she is positive. (Because she's feral, it will probably be a couple of weeks before I can catch/have her tested.) Thanks Kerry M. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: o/t FIV
it's quite possible for a snap test to be a faint positive--and tho the estimates of false positives for FeLV on snap tests range from 20-80% (thanks, susan), they're generally held to be AT LEAST 40% inaccurate for FIV. no sanctuary or rescue working with FIVs considers a cat to be positive without a confirmatory western blot test. most cats with FIV die WITH the virus, not from it--usually at a ripe old age. many cats are first diagnosed at an advanced age when something else has gone wrong and are just being tested for everything as a matter of course. as it's only transmitted by DEEP, PENETRATING WOUNDS (like those inflicted by testosterone-crazed toms fighting over girls), any housecat of a certain age that's been indoors most of its life has probably thus been positive for years On 2/1/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesn't make any sense to me Kerry. How can she test neg, but still possibly be pos?? What vet was this that made that notation? You could call the office and ask to fax the report. Even if the vet doesn't remember the specific case, they should be able to tell you what the heck he might have meant by that. That said, I wouldn't worry one little bit about the possibility of Momcat having fiv. I certainly wouldn't put her through the great cat round up just to have her retested. Did you read all those comforting posts about my Star when he tested pos for fiv? Seriously, if she has been acting and feeling healthy all this time, I'd suggest you put those reports back in the file and not worry about it. Having the thought in the back of your mind, (where it belongs in mho), will serve to keep you vigilant to her health concerns, that's not a bad thing. I know you already do that anyway. Didn't you just bring her in for testing in preparation for her possible relocation to the UK? I would think that one of the tests that would be run, would be for fiv. Go take a look at the latest reports, or call the vet you just brought her to. Nina MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: I was shocked last night, going thru old papers, to see a comment written on Momcat's notes in 2003, made by the vet who tested all six of my ferals for FeLV and FIV. The chart said that Momcat had (alone of the six) tested negative for FELV/FIV but the asterisked comment said that she POSSIBLY was FIV POSITIVE. I think that the news that the other 5 had tested FeLV positive must have put this possibly FIV positive comment right out of my head. Anyway, now my Q is: how can a cat test FIV neg but possibly be positive in reality. What symptoms might she show now, 3 years on? Can you guys recommend a website in case she is positive. (Because she's feral, it will probably be a couple of weeks before I can catch/have her tested.) Thanks Kerry M. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: o/t FIV
Thank you Gloria, if that's indeed what went on, it makes more sense. Why didn't the guy just say, faint pos? Sometimes I think they are purposely trying to make us crazy. Either that or they have very little faith in our ability to understand the complexities. It makes me wonder just how much of a concern this must have been to the vet, since he didn't point it out at the time. Nina Gloria B. Lane wrote: If it's the Elisa test, they base on on eyeballing the little circle that appears. If they think they see a faint coloration, might still call it FIV-Neg, but it's maybe really a faint positive. So it can be rather subjective.. Gloria
RE: o/t FIV
_ From: Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:49 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: o/t FIV I wouldn't worry, either, -- Kerry - I have to say out and loud.. FIV ELISA test is not reliable at all - I have had 5 cats already for the past 4 years and tested positive on ELISA and was negative (false positive) -- _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: o/t FIV That doesn't make any sense to me Kerry. How can she test neg, but still possibly be pos?? What vet was this that made that notation? You could call the office and ask to fax the report. Even if the vet doesn't remember the specific case, they should be able to tell you what the heck he might have meant by that. That said, I wouldn't worry one little bit about the possibility of Momcat having fiv. I certainly wouldn't put her through the great cat round up just to have her retested. Did you read all those comforting posts about my Star when he tested pos for fiv? Seriously, if she has been acting and feeling healthy all this time, I'd suggest you put those reports back in the file and not worry about it. Having the thought in the back of your mind, (where it belongs in mho), will serve to keep you vigilant to her health concerns, that's not a bad thing. I know you already do that anyway. Didn't you just bring her in for testing in preparation for her possible relocation to the UK? I would think that one of the tests that would be run, would be for fiv. Go take a look at the latest reports, or call the vet you just brought her to. Nina MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: I was shocked last night, going thru old papers, to see a comment written on Momcat's notes in 2003, made by the vet who tested all six of my ferals for FeLV and FIV. The chart said that Momcat had (alone of the six) tested negative for FELV/FIV but the asterisked comment said that she POSSIBLY was FIV POSITIVE. I think that the news that the other 5 had tested FeLV positive must have put this possibly FIV positive comment right out of my head. Anyway, now my Q is: how can a cat test FIV neg but possibly be positive in reality. What symptoms might she show now, 3 years on? Can you guys recommend a website in case she is positive. (Because she's feral, it will probably be a couple of weeks before I can catch/have her tested.) Thanks Kerry M. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: o/t FIV
Thanks Susan, MC, Gloria, Nina---you guys are great! Agree Nina---I did email my vet, in hopes that testing is taking place right now (her blood was drawn again a couple of weeks ago to be re-sent out for Pet Passport--I don't expect to get result for 2 more weeks) but haven't heard back yet (trying to avoid calling the office as it means relaying verbally to the receptionist) and I'd rather speak to vet directly. I also had she and Mickey re-tested for Felv last may, and asked him in the same email if that test included FIV. It was the PAWS shelter vet that made the note. Not inclined to call them. I'm sure glad I don't have to get psyched up immediately again for the great round-up. MC: she's pretty lazy (tho not fat), is about 4 (tested at 1 year--we're guessing her age but she wasn't a kitten when tested) and LOOKS cuddly but because she remains resolutely feral the ONLY time I've been able to cuddle her in 3 years was 2 weeks ago after she escaped en route to vet and was tranxed after we found her--but as Nina rightly pointed out that cuddle time doesn't count in terms of her becoming tamer since, being tranxed, she had no ??? motor function, was that the term you used?! She's never shown any symptoms of being sick, ever. Not even a cold. Thanks again everyone, will let you know outcome Kerryxx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: o/t FIV Thank you Gloria, if that's indeed what went on, it makes more sense. Why didn't the guy just say, faint pos? Sometimes I think they are purposely trying to make us crazy. Either that or they have very little faith in our ability to understand the complexities. It makes me wonder just how much of a concern this must have been to the vet, since he didn't point it out at the time. Nina Gloria B. Lane wrote: If it's the Elisa test, they base on on eyeballing the little circle that appears. If they think they see a faint coloration, might still call it FIV-Neg, but it's maybe really a faint positive. So it can be rather subjective.. Gloria IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: o/t FIV
FIV is relatively harmless. Unless she is showing symptoms, then I wouldn't treat her any differently. My website has lots if FIV links. http://ucat.us/FELVFIVFIP.html Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html
RE: o/t FIV
Thanks Phaewryn---MC sent it already---what a wonderful website you've created! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: o/t FIV FIV is relatively harmless. Unless she is showing symptoms, then I wouldn't treat her any differently. My website has lots if FIV links. http://ucat.us/FELVFIVFIP.html Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Thanks, I try really hard to be useful! Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html
