Re: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
MJ, I'm not sure why nobody has suggested trying to find out what is causing the anemia, and I guarantee you clavamox and baytril will not take care of the heamobartonella as well as the doxy if they will at all. The tetracycline group of drugs is what is need to treat hemo. Here are some documents to back this up: To treat Haemobartonella Felis, antibiotics such as tetracycline, oxytetracycline, or doxycycline are given for three weeks. Although it may seem contradictory, in cats with a rapid course of disease, large doses of prednisolone (a steroid) may sometimes be given to suppress the destruction of the red blood cells by the body. In some animals, it is necessary to give one or multiple transfusions. A glucose rich intravenous fluid may be life saving in very weak and debilitated pets. Some cats cannot tolerate tetracycline and will develop fever, vomiting, or diarrhea. If this occurs, the veterinarian may lower the dosage or choose another antibiotic. Only the veterinarian should make changes in treatment. http://www.geocities.com/pvis1960/hemobartonella.html Specific treatment for feline infectious anemia includes tetracycline antibiotics and prednisone. Patients may require supportive care, including blood transfusion. Although treatment does not eliminate the infection completely, cats that survive are thought to have a good long-term outlook. http://www.missionmedvet.com/encyclopedia/haemobartonellosis.htm *What are the symptoms of haemobartonellosis?* Symptoms vary depending on the number of red blood cells infected, the stage of the parasitic infection, the health status of the cat the rapidity of infection, but can include; * Anaemia * Loss of appetite * Weakness * Pale mucous membranes (ie: pale gums) * Weight loss * Jaundice * Fever * Enlarged lymph nodes * Enlarged spleen Untreated, FIA can cause death. *How is haemobartonellosis treated?* Antibiotics oxytetracycline or doxycycline. Treatment with a glucocorticoid such as prednisolone may also be prescribed to diminish the immune-mediated component of the disease process. Severely anaemic cats may require blood transfusions. http://www.cat-world.com.au/FelineInfectiousAnaemia.htm It can be treated with tetracycline class antibiotics with good success but even treated cats should be considered to be carriers of the disease and may experience recurrences later. Supportive care is often necessary for several days in cats with this condition and during the acute infection if may be necessary to use corticosteroids despite the immune suppression associated with these medications. It is very important to control fleas and other blood sucking organisms in a multiple cat household in which one member is found to have hemobartonellosis. It is a good idea to occasionally do followup bloodwork to make sure anemia is not recurring. Mike Richards, DVM http://www.vetinfo.com/catpara.html#Hemobartonellosis I have NEVER heard of or read of treating heamobartonella with clavamox or baytril. Bailey was on doxy, prednisolone and epogen for his anemia. He had a bone marrow aspirate to find out why he was anemic. He did not have hemo but we treated for it just in case. He got the doxy for about 6 weeks. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
Dear Marissa I'm so happy for you and Slinky that you have him at home now. Have a wonderful day with Slinky. Enjoy every moment you have with him! Sending zillions of prayes and healing vibes, hugs, Kerry PS: I wrote you last night but my server wdn't release it from the outbox. You'll prob get it today if I can get their tech support to release remotely for me. There will be a lot in the archives on IR--Michelle (Lerner) shared a ton of information with us on IR. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa Johnson Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again Hi all!!! Just wanted to give you all the latest update. I brought Slinky home this afternoon The doctor called me this morning and said he was doing great and could go home. I stopped and saw him on my way to church and he was wanting to jump out of his cage and go home. :) I went back this afternoon and they said his temp is normal (101 - was 102 when I went in the morning), his BP, respirations, heart rate, etc. were all normal. He even ate quite a bit of his dry food after I left in the morning. He was alert and looking around. His gums are still pale but they're definitely pinker! When we got home I took him out of his carrier...and watched my baby boy run across the living room floor, jump up on the couch, and perch on the window sill!!! :) Considering that I wasn't sure I'd even get to bring him home, I just about burst into tears! The bill was actually pretty close to the estimate and they're going to have me continue his clavamox and baytril and give him sub-q fluids if I need them. My friend who's a vet tech will be here tonight to help me take care of him and keep an eye on him for the week. We have a follow-up appointment Thursday night to run another CBC and see where we stand. Throughout all of it, the hospital was absolutely amazing! I called 2-3 times last night for updates and they were great about getting them to me. They actually THANKED me for the opportunity to work with him and told me what a wonderful cat he is. :) Now for the not-so-happy news. He was really alert and energetic for a while...but I noticed he was starting to feel warm again. I took his temp and it got to 104 and then he moved and it came out and he wouldn't let me get it in again. :( I called the hospital to make sure I was supposed to give him his abx tonight (wanted to make sure I wasn't overdosing him after he'd been on IV abx). The doctor said to give him the abx and go ahead with sub-q fluids...but also said that she's concerned about his ability to regenerate and that she thinks I've done all I can for him...and it may be that if he's eating and alert that's a good day for him. We gave him the clavamox, baytril, some C and L-Lysine, and Hi-Vite and then started the sub-q's. Took the temp after the fluids were done and it was 104.4. I'm hoping it will go down by the time the fluid absorbs. He's seeming a bit more lethargic and sleepy now. I hate to keep poking and prodding him...it has to be frustrating for him! I'm feeling a bit discouraged...everything seemed to be going so well when I picked him up! But my friend (the vet tech) is saying that his body needs time to adjust to the new blood. I'm hoping that's what's happening...and not that his body is killing the new blood cells. Please keep up the prayers and good thoughts! I know we've done everything we can...but I really want this to work! I got my baby back for a few hours...and I want more! Thanks again for all your support and love. I'll send more info when I have it. MJ _ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail#news with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail#news IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers' particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy
Re: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
Hello Marissa and Slinky. I just wanted you to know that, like everyone else on the list, I'm praying for Slinky and you. It is no small thing that your family and friends have rallied around you in your time of need. Everything seems to have fallen into place to give Slinky the best opportunity to recover and I know you recognize how truly blessed you are and how special your little angel is in your life. C'mon Slinky, keep on fighting! Please keep us posted when you can, Nina Marissa Johnson wrote: Hi all!!! Just wanted to give you all the latest update. I brought Slinky home this afternoon The doctor called me this morning and said he was doing great and could go home. I stopped and saw him on my way to church and he was wanting to jump out of his cage and go home. :) I went back this afternoon and they said his temp is normal (101 - was 102 when I went in the morning), his BP, respirations, heart rate, etc. were all normal. He even ate quite a bit of his dry food after I left in the morning. He was alert and looking around. His gums are still pale but they're definitely pinker! When we got home I took him out of his carrier...and watched my baby boy run across the living room floor, jump up on the couch, and perch on the window sill!!! :) Considering that I wasn't sure I'd even get to bring him home, I just about burst into tears! The bill was actually pretty close to the estimate and they're going to have me continue his clavamox and baytril and give him sub-q fluids if I need them. My friend who's a vet tech will be here tonight to help me take care of him and keep an eye on him for the week. We have a follow-up appointment Thursday night to run another CBC and see where we stand. Throughout all of it, the hospital was absolutely amazing! I called 2-3 times last night for updates and they were great about getting them to me. They actually THANKED me for the opportunity to work with him and told me what a wonderful cat he is. :) Now for the not-so-happy news. He was really alert and energetic for a while...but I noticed he was starting to feel warm again. I took his temp and it got to 104 and then he moved and it came out and he wouldn't let me get it in again. :( I called the hospital to make sure I was supposed to give him his abx tonight (wanted to make sure I wasn't overdosing him after he'd been on IV abx). The doctor said to give him the abx and go ahead with sub-q fluids...but also said that she's concerned about his ability to regenerate and that she thinks I've done all I can for him...and it may be that if he's eating and alert that's a good day for him. We gave him the clavamox, baytril, some C and L-Lysine, and Hi-Vite and then started the sub-q's. Took the temp after the fluids were done and it was 104.4. I'm hoping it will go down by the time the fluid absorbs. He's seeming a bit more lethargic and sleepy now. I hate to keep poking and prodding him...it has to be frustrating for him! I'm feeling a bit discouraged...everything seemed to be going so well when I picked him up! But my friend (the vet tech) is saying that his body needs time to adjust to the new blood. I'm hoping that's what's happening...and not that his body is killing the new blood cells. Please keep up the prayers and good thoughts! I know we've done everything we can...but I really want this to work! I got my baby back for a few hours...and I want more! Thanks again for all your support and love. I'll send more info when I have it. MJ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail#news with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail#news
Re: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
Hi Marissa, I loved reading your post. I'm so glad that Slinky is home again. Did you ask the doctor about Epogen and when will they start it? :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all!!! Just wanted to give you all the latest update. I brought Slinky home this afternoon The doctor called me this morning and said he was doing great and could go home. I stopped and saw him on my way to church and he was wanting to jump out of his cage and go home. :) I went back this afternoon and they said his temp is normal (101 - was 102 when I went in the morning), his BP, respirations, heart rate, etc. were all normal. He even ate quite a bit of his dry food after I left in the morning. He was alert and looking around. His gums are still pale but they're definitely pinker! When we got home I took him out of his carrier...and watched my baby boy run across the living room floor, jump up on the couch, and perch on the window sill!!! :) Considering that I wasn't sure I'd even get to bring him home, I just about burst into tears! The bill was actually pretty close to the estimate and they're going to have me continue his clavamox and baytril and give him sub-q fluids if I need them. My friend who's a vet tech will be here tonight to help me take care of him and keep an eye on him for the week. We have a follow-up appointment Thursday night to run another CBC and see where we stand. Throughout all of it, the hospital was absolutely amazing! I called 2-3 times last night for updates and they were great about getting them to me. They actually THANKED me for the opportunity to work with him and told me what a wonderful cat he is. :) Now for the not-so-happy news. He was really alert and energetic for a while...but I noticed he was starting to feel warm again. I took his temp and it got to 104 and then he moved and it came out and he wouldn't let me get it in again. :( I called the hospital to make sure I was supposed to give him his abx tonight (wanted to make sure I wasn't overdosing him after he'd been on IV abx). The doctor said to give him the abx and go ahead with sub-q fluids...but also said that she's concerned about his ability to regenerate and that she thinks I've done all I can for him...and it may be that if he's eating and alert that's a good day for him. We gave him the clavamox, baytril, some C and L-Lysine, and Hi-Vite and then started the sub-q's. Took the temp after the fluids were done and it was 104.4. I'm hoping it will go down by the time the fluid absorbs. He's seeming a bit more lethargic and sleepy now. I hate to keep poking and prodding him...it has to be frustrating for him! I'm feeling a bit discouraged...everything seemed to be going so well when I picked him up! But my friend (the vet tech) is saying that his body needs time to adjust to the new blood. I'm hoping that's what's happening...and not that his body is killing the new blood cells. Please keep up the prayers and good thoughts! I know we've done everything we can...but I really want this to work! I got my baby back for a few hours...and I want more! Thanks again for all your support and love. I'll send more info when I have it. MJ - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367
Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
Hi all!!! Just wanted to give you all the latest update. I brought Slinky home this afternoon The doctor called me this morning and said he was doing great and could go home. I stopped and saw him on my way to church and he was wanting to jump out of his cage and go home. :) I went back this afternoon and they said his temp is normal (101 - was 102 when I went in the morning), his BP, respirations, heart rate, etc. were all normal. He even ate quite a bit of his dry food after I left in the morning. He was alert and looking around. His gums are still pale but they're definitely pinker! When we got home I took him out of his carrier...and watched my baby boy run across the living room floor, jump up on the couch, and perch on the window sill!!! :) Considering that I wasn't sure I'd even get to bring him home, I just about burst into tears! The bill was actually pretty close to the estimate and they're going to have me continue his clavamox and baytril and give him sub-q fluids if I need them. My friend who's a vet tech will be here tonight to help me take care of him and keep an eye on him for the week. We have a follow-up appointment Thursday night to run another CBC and see where we stand. Throughout all of it, the hospital was absolutely amazing! I called 2-3 times last night for updates and they were great about getting them to me. They actually THANKED me for the opportunity to work with him and told me what a wonderful cat he is. :) Now for the not-so-happy news. He was really alert and energetic for a while...but I noticed he was starting to feel warm again. I took his temp and it got to 104 and then he moved and it came out and he wouldn't let me get it in again. :( I called the hospital to make sure I was supposed to give him his abx tonight (wanted to make sure I wasn't overdosing him after he'd been on IV abx). The doctor said to give him the abx and go ahead with sub-q fluids...but also said that she's concerned about his ability to regenerate and that she thinks I've done all I can for him...and it may be that if he's eating and alert that's a good day for him. We gave him the clavamox, baytril, some C and L-Lysine, and Hi-Vite and then started the sub-q's. Took the temp after the fluids were done and it was 104.4. I'm hoping it will go down by the time the fluid absorbs. He's seeming a bit more lethargic and sleepy now. I hate to keep poking and prodding him...it has to be frustrating for him! I'm feeling a bit discouraged...everything seemed to be going so well when I picked him up! But my friend (the vet tech) is saying that his body needs time to adjust to the new blood. I'm hoping that's what's happening...and not that his body is killing the new blood cells. Please keep up the prayers and good thoughts! I know we've done everything we can...but I really want this to work! I got my baby back for a few hours...and I want more! Thanks again for all your support and love. I'll send more info when I have it. MJ - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
Thanks for the update. Love and prayers for you and Slinky. elizabeth On 3/18/07, Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all!!! Just wanted to give you all the latest update. I brought Slinky home this afternoon The doctor called me this morning and said he was doing great and could go home. I stopped and saw him on my way to church and he was wanting to jump out of his cage and go home. :) I went back this afternoon and they said his temp is normal (101 - was 102 when I went in the morning), his BP, respirations, heart rate, etc. were all normal. He even ate quite a bit of his dry food after I left in the morning. He was alert and looking around. His gums are still pale but they're definitely pinker! When we got home I took him out of his carrier...and watched my baby boy run across the living room floor, jump up on the couch, and perch on the window sill!!! :) Considering that I wasn't sure I'd even get to bring him home, I just about burst into tears! The bill was actually pretty close to the estimate and they're going to have me continue his clavamox and baytril and give him sub-q fluids if I need them. My friend who's a vet tech will be here tonight to help me take care of him and keep an eye on him for the week. We have a follow-up appointment Thursday night to run another CBC and see where we stand. Throughout all of it, the hospital was absolutely amazing! I called 2-3 times last night for updates and they were great about getting them to me. They actually THANKED me for the opportunity to work with him and told me what a wonderful cat he is. :) Now for the not-so-happy news. He was really alert and energetic for a while...but I noticed he was starting to feel warm again. I took his temp and it got to 104 and then he moved and it came out and he wouldn't let me get it in again. :( I called the hospital to make sure I was supposed to give him his abx tonight (wanted to make sure I wasn't overdosing him after he'd been on IV abx). The doctor said to give him the abx and go ahead with sub-q fluids...but also said that she's concerned about his ability to regenerate and that she thinks I've done all I can for him...and it may be that if he's eating and alert that's a good day for him. We gave him the clavamox, baytril, some C and L-Lysine, and Hi-Vite and then started the sub-q's. Took the temp after the fluids were done and it was 104.4. I'm hoping it will go down by the time the fluid absorbs. He's seeming a bit more lethargic and sleepy now. I hate to keep poking and prodding him...it has to be frustrating for him! I'm feeling a bit discouraged...everything seemed to be going so well when I picked him up! But my friend (the vet tech) is saying that his body needs time to adjust to the new blood. I'm hoping that's what's happening...and not that his body is killing the new blood cells. Please keep up the prayers and good thoughts! I know we've done everything we can...but I really want this to work! I got my baby back for a few hours...and I want more! Thanks again for all your support and love. I'll send more info when I have it. MJ -- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
